Put the squeeze on Grandma and the Ex. Get those kids in state custody. And why couldn't the local cops find the women's car. This reminds me of the old Wendy Camp case, also from Oklahoma. She took along her sister in law and 6 year old daughter to see her son. They were never seen again. Found years later buried under a septic tank. Shot.
as of what i know, i know these two ladys, her ex was in rehab when they went missing, i am told that some people belive it was the grandmas bf that did this i am not sure.
Take note how the media reported the husband finding the car. They never said WHEN he found it. I'll bet when the husband wasn't getting any response from texts/calls to his wife, he drove the route. Husband likely found the car before a police report was even filed. Media knows the chain of events, yet picks and chooses what to report. They want to gin this up for views. Media is sensationalizing this for their own gain.
@@DeeDeee599 It's here on youtube. I ended up watching it last night. I had seen it years ago and remembered after seeing this conversation. It's so awful. 😟
The Sheriff's department that told the mother they would no longer supervise the visitation exchange, failed her. They told her she wasn't in danger from a felon who was just arrested with g-n. The judge also failed her by giving a violent felon custody of her children, just because the family is well known in the area.
@@natecomer9391 It wasn't about her, it was a report that her brother was suspected of improper behavior towards the kids. The case was dropped eventually.
True but another news outlet showed photo of him and said he was in jail for drug chargers. Still doesn't mean he didn't have mom and friend do something.
Darling, they're long gone. She was getting ready to have custody of them, the grandmother and her boyfriend didn't want that.its very telling that she was afraid to go alone to pick up her children.
@@janephillips3627 I wonder if the mother in law even showed up at the place where they were going to meet ? I keep hearing he was in rehab but I have heard nothing about the mother inlaw went to the meeting . If she didn't go she knew she didn't have to .
Media is blowing it out of proportion. Because of the school being very near to where the car was found, it is on lockdown. It's very common to lockdown a school when a crime scene is nearby. The school sees two people have disappeared very near their school, so they lock it down. They don't want any of their students disappearing. It's likely targeted at the one mom, but school locks down because they don't know for certain it wasn't random. This is very normal and parents would be up in arms if the school wasn't on lockdown with two people disappearing right down the road from the school.
The information is sketchy at best , why take an acquaintance, why is the school locked down , have they looked into alibis of her ex and ex mother in law , if the ex husband didn't do it then you can bet the MIL hired someone. I just don't see them being alive sadly , none of this has the hallmarks of a happy ending
@@deannamuz9086 thanks 👍, I've been so confused with the whole thing , even the news doesn't seem to be able to tell us anything of note. I'm still thinking it's the grandmother , if this is about custody people have kil1ed before to try and win custody.
Dad and grandma had them killed because uncle SA’d the kids and they didn’t want her to have custody. Kelley unfortunately is collateral damage in this.
@@joansmith6844 The brother of the mother. It's on the custody agreement, although only his initials have been released to the public. The RUclips sleuths know much more about this case than the media, or media are strategically not revealing details.
V. Butler's new husband found the car. Not the father of V. Butlers kids with whom she is in a custody dispute with. That man is supposedly in rehab. She should have taken her new husband with her to go pick up her kids, not another mom that can't protect them and now is a victim herself.
Her ex-boyfriend the father of her children just got out of jail on the 22nd of March he is a felon there was a Attorney who did a procast and look at court paperwork also a big custody case.I would be more worried about her x family over her new husband,he might of been very worried@@stephanieholmes7573
That title is sus...hrd the car is out in the boonies...ironic how one of their hubs found the car...hope they find them so the families can have closure
Those kids need to be in state custody outside of that county and under protection. We see way too many people take out the entire family when they don’t get their way.
The car was found where they were supposed to meet, so I heard on another news report, but the car was OFF the side of the rode in brush, NOT pulled over on side of rode. Unusual stopping where it was.
Custody dispute but the father's mother has custody? Ex has issues with substance abuse and his mother has custody? Why wasn't the children's mother given custody, because of her age in 2015? Wonder if the son lives with his mom?
Allegedly grandma had custody because the pos ex is or was in rehab. Mom didn’t have custody because of her seizures. But she was in legal process of regaining custody. Allegedly.
Not everyone lives a life filled with issues, in fact people tend to hate those who actually have found the solutions, maybe instead they should listen to what’s working and not complain that their life isn’t relatable, not everything needs to be relatable and if your at rock bottom stop looking to the left or right of you and look up. In no way am I saying that there are people who have zero problems, it rains on the just in the unjust, but there’s a drastic difference between those who self inflict problems and those who don’t. In someways there seems to be more trouble for those who truly do the right stuff without compromise, however the stuff that matters like joy and peace no matter what those people have going on in their life with troubles like cancer or being robbed they are doing better. Not to sound like I’m oversimplifying things, but truly people who live completely surrendered to God through Jesus Christ as their Savior for giving them and guiding them are going to do better and that goes beyond salvation and the better that they do has nothing to do with their circumstances but everything to do with the hope that they have and the fruits of doing things God‘s way not by your own efforts but out of a genuine and real relationship with him. As for this family I can’t even begin to follow what’s going on, I know to pray, not my will or my understanding, but I pray for God‘s higher ways and gods greater Solutions over this situation. Amen
So the husband of one of the missing women actually found the car instead of the police officer’s? Suspicious at best and I pray these ladies are found safe and soon.
The current husband of Veronica found the car BECAUSE HE KNEW THE ROUTE THEY WERE TAKING. Based on that when they didn't arrive he went out driving the route and found it abandoned and called the LE. @ bettydamnboop
I want to know what the police are actually doing , the information is unbelievably sketchy , why didn't they find the car , why aren't they questioning the ex and his mother , seems if his mother wanted custody then she wouldn't be the first to turn to murder to get custody, if its not the ex then his mother has hired someone. What I dont get is why the ones husband followed them there and found the car that seems odd.
I agree. I looked it up and, it is just one school K-12, I don’t think they closed the school bc she went there. It was close to where the car was found.
Veronica is not married. She has a boyfriend. And the car was Jillians. Veronica had issues too. Supervised visitation are for reasons. And usually not good ones
Not true in all cases trust me I know judges , lawyers r corrupt , legal criminals sharing same bottle of wine .. only stating a judge’s decision can be wrong or purchased .. it’s not always true as u state shame on u .. u walk around w your eyes closed , a easily manipulated person ?? Unless you know facts true story you don’t know diddly kime
@@naturistfred not true .. judges & lawyers have control of your kids once you divorce and start court .. only 1% of judges are decent there all mostly corrupt as well @ same as lawyers they all share the money and the same bottle of wine .. don’t believe anything unless u truly know facts .. this system is way f up and corrupt they rarely work with the constitution of law they feel there above anyone cuz they have the power doesn’t mean they make right decisions it is way corrupt in the USA court system .. they just randomly pic a grandparent there’s no tyme or reason .. the ones suffering are the children .. children would rather sit on a pile of poo 💩 & b with there mommy ‘!!
@@dianegreyson8787 I’m praying 🙏🏻 it’s bad because they never picked up the kid no mom would miss pick up ever … 5 days ? 😳 I just learned of this case today . Ty Diane ☝️
No Veronica never made it to the 4 corners trading post where the exchange was at. So that’s why the grandma not reporting any no show is suspect. She knew Veronica was on her way. I believe the kids are 8 and 6. The little 6 year olds birthday was April 2.
Everyone. It was a planned birthday visit but the mom was afraid to go alone and her pastors wife offered to drive her. Husband knew, boyfriend knew, grandma knew. The trip wasn’t a secret.
Yeah, the grandmother and baby Daddy are about to go down. I’m guessing they don’t understand they left a digital footprint and data/communications that will result in their conviction.
Three possibilities... -ran away, someone took their lives, they were kidnapped at gunpoint. Alot is not adding up. Whatever the case, I hope the case is solved soon. I can only imagine how the families and the children are feeling right now.
Sounds like grandma didnt vall police when mom turned up missing. Why fid her husband have to gond the car? Where eere law enforcement? Women...please take steps to protect yourselves. Ive recently gotten a gun and other things. This is a horrible world for people to take other people's lives. Praying they find them. 🙏🙏💞
There are so many contradicting stories of who found the car. Another vehicles saw the car on the side of the road window smashed and reported that. Then the sheriffs say they found the car. Now the husband and some other form of police just now. Anyway the vehicle that saw it saw it at 10 ish am. And they left their town at around 9 am. Car was 10 minutes away from destination
"I believe it might be...". "Believing" doesn't make it truth, and we all know what "might be" means…statements like this adds to terrible journalism. Here's a thought: don't say it until you KNOW it to be true!
A preacher, a husband, and an ex? There's three good clues without mentioning the boyfriend with felonies and drug addiction problems. I'm confident that this will be solved fairly quickly.
@@SharpTac That's why the court required supervised visits because she previously ignored the court orders requiring her to keep the kids away from her brother.
This is such a a weird story! Maybe they had tried to meet the ex to do the exchange and got ambushed. What the heck is this about and what does it have to do with that lockdown??
Women just don’t leave their children, it’s definitely someone very close! 💔🙏💔
I agree
it was an n if you know what I mean.
Sometimes they do,but not this time.
I know some kids would have been better off had their mothers left them…
@@julianjessepe4255- Ok Scooter, you've proven you're racist. Now get along and finish your homework, the adults are talking
Paternal grandmother... never end well.
Put the squeeze on Grandma and the Ex. Get those kids in state custody. And why couldn't the local cops find the women's car. This reminds me of the old Wendy Camp case, also from Oklahoma. She took along her sister in law and 6 year old daughter to see her son. They were never seen again. Found years later buried under a septic tank. Shot.
as of what i know, i know these two ladys, her ex was in rehab when they went missing, i am told that some people belive it was the grandmas bf that did this i am not sure.
I remember that story from Unsolved Mysteries. 😢
Take note how the media reported the husband finding the car. They never said WHEN he found it. I'll bet when the husband wasn't getting any response from texts/calls to his wife, he drove the route. Husband likely found the car before a police report was even filed. Media knows the chain of events, yet picks and chooses what to report. They want to gin this up for views. Media is sensationalizing this for their own gain.
And they actually did a interview on unsolved mysteries ...and claimed they didn't no anything. But was responsible for her disappearance
@@DeeDeee599 It's here on youtube. I ended up watching it last night. I had seen it years ago and remembered after seeing this conversation. It's so awful. 😟
The Sheriff's department that told the mother they would no longer supervise the visitation exchange, failed her. They told her she wasn't in danger from a felon who was just arrested with g-n. The judge also failed her by giving a violent felon custody of her children, just because the family is well known in the area.
that is horrific
Well known re $$$ , or...?
$ pays off !
If he’s the character you say he is and he was given custody the mom must be a real piece of work.
@@natecomer9391that’s not how corruption works
@@natecomer9391 It wasn't about her, it was a report that her brother was suspected of improper behavior towards the kids. The case was dropped eventually.
I have a feeling the father the ex and the grandmother definitely know something about these two ladies missing
That was my first thought too!
True but another news outlet showed photo of him and said he was in jail for drug chargers. Still doesn't mean he didn't have mom and friend do something.
@@janephillips3627nope in rehab but not a locked facility
Lord, please let them be found alive and safe. Amen.
Darling, they're long gone. She was getting ready to have custody of them, the grandmother and her boyfriend didn't want that.its very telling that she was afraid to go alone to pick up her children.
Sadly not likely.
Obviously, they are dead
Yup, I didn’t want to be the first to state the obvious.
Prayers that these two ladies are found. ❤
Well Well Mother in Law and the Ex ! Interesting .
Ex was in jail or Rehab for drugs when they went missing but someone said mother in law and her BF might have had something to do with missing women.
@@janephillips3627 I wonder if the mother in law even showed up at the place where they were going to meet ? I keep hearing he was in rehab but I have heard nothing about the mother inlaw went to the meeting . If she didn't go she knew she didn't have to .
Paternal grandma shouldn't have the kids.
Very smart of the husband to have followed the route.
Yes it is.
Yes, I’m wondering why the police didn’t do that-why is it the husband found the car and not law enforcement? Weird
😢 insane times we live in
I have a strong suspicion that they are dead, the ex and the grandmother are most likely involved. Allegedly
You and everyone else...
Me too sadly.
Who is this ex-husband? Is he tied to the Mafia or something? Why lock down an entire school over two missing women? I find that odd.
Where’s the surveillance footage from the school or any surrounding homes/businesses?! This is a strange situation.
They said he's in rehab.
Right? When I heard that I was like are we talking about the same story?
It's was the schools decision, because the school is so close by
Media is blowing it out of proportion. Because of the school being very near to where the car was found, it is on lockdown. It's very common to lockdown a school when a crime scene is nearby. The school sees two people have disappeared very near their school, so they lock it down. They don't want any of their students disappearing. It's likely targeted at the one mom, but school locks down because they don't know for certain it wasn't random. This is very normal and parents would be up in arms if the school wasn't on lockdown with two people disappearing right down the road from the school.
You're looking for two bodies at this point.
75% OF PEOPLE MURDERED KNEW THEIR KILLER.
I heard the two women weren’t good friends but just acquaintances and the pastor’s wife was trying to help her out.
Oh that's sad. That pastor's wife was trying to be a supportive friend and she got mixed up into something she wasn't prepared for.
This definitely has ties to the 27 yr old on why this happened
The information is sketchy at best , why take an acquaintance, why is the school locked down , have they looked into alibis of her ex and ex mother in law , if the ex husband didn't do it then you can bet the MIL hired someone.
I just don't see them being alive sadly , none of this has the hallmarks of a happy ending
@steve10 the lady with her was with a court type system and was there because of supervised visits
@@deannamuz9086 thanks 👍, I've been so confused with the whole thing , even the news doesn't seem to be able to tell us anything of note.
I'm still thinking it's the grandmother , if this is about custody people have kil1ed before to try and win custody.
Dad and grandma had them killed because uncle SA’d the kids and they didn’t want her to have custody. Kelley unfortunately is collateral damage in this.
Uncle of mom ? Or dad ?
@@joansmith6844 The brother of the mother. It's on the custody agreement, although only his initials have been released to the public. The RUclips sleuths know much more about this case than the media, or media are strategically not revealing details.
@@jonoharper4729 I believe u .. I haven’t seen this case until today who do u follow ? that’s because we are the news tv 📺 is fake news just a zero
Do you have a name or anything for yhe youtube sleuths?
Why make up stories? Not helpful...
He murdered them
Who?
@@nilabrandner433V.Butler husband😢 ... I hope & 🙏 pray that is NOT the situation, hard not to speculate that's what occurred! 😢
V. Butler's new husband found the car. Not the father of V. Butlers kids with whom she is in a custody dispute with. That man is supposedly in rehab. She should have taken her new husband with her to go pick up her kids, not another mom that can't protect them and now is a victim herself.
Her ex-boyfriend the father of her children just got out of jail on the 22nd of March he is a felon there was a Attorney who did a procast and look at court paperwork also a big custody case.I would be more worried about her x family over her new husband,he might of been very worried@@stephanieholmes7573
@@nicole04050809 It was court ordered that woman go with her. I saw a broadcast on it
Sounds fishy ...praying for them to come home safe...
That title is sus...hrd the car is out in the boonies...ironic how one of their hubs found the car...hope they find them so the families can have closure
they always ask JK her expert opinion, and any high school student can figure most of it out
Those kids need to be in state custody outside of that county and under protection. We see way too many people take out the entire family when they don’t get their way.
So true
The car was found where they were supposed to meet, so I heard on another news report, but the car was OFF the side of the rode in brush, NOT pulled over on side of rode. Unusual stopping where it was.
Then why did it take so long for them to find them? I don’t understand how the police didn’t find them but the husband did.
Oh oh, Grandma pulling seniority over the kids.
😮looks like if I face ex is in rehab ??
Custody dispute but the father's mother has custody? Ex has issues with substance abuse and his mother has custody? Why wasn't the children's mother given custody, because of her age in 2015? Wonder if the son lives with his mom?
Maybe mom struggled at one time with drugs also.
@motherbature8893.....
Lots of what ifs and a lot of possibilities.
Allegedly grandma had custody because the pos ex is or was in rehab. Mom didn’t have custody because of her seizures.
But she was in legal process of regaining custody.
Allegedly.
@@kelleywyskiel3478Why are you calling her ex a POS?
@@vickicali just a hunch. When a mother is afraid to alone to pick up her child from her ex and his family there’s a pos reason.
Stay single ladies. Stormy!.. unbelievable time's
I agree with too many women being unalive by spouses these men are not mentally stable just sad
typical feminist
dont have kids with bad men
At first I thought this was the story about the two wives that claimed they were raped in Bermuda on vacation, NOT.
Not everyone lives a life filled with issues, in fact people tend to hate those who actually have found the solutions, maybe instead they should listen to what’s working and not complain that their life isn’t relatable, not everything needs to be relatable and if your at rock bottom stop looking to the left or right of you and look up. In no way am I saying that there are people who have zero problems, it rains on the just in the unjust, but there’s a drastic difference between those who self inflict problems and those who don’t. In someways there seems to be more trouble for those who truly do the right stuff without compromise, however the stuff that matters like joy and peace no matter what those people have going on in their life with troubles like cancer or being robbed they are doing better. Not to sound like I’m oversimplifying things, but truly people who live completely surrendered to God through Jesus Christ as their Savior for giving them and guiding them are going to do better and that goes beyond salvation and the better that they do has nothing to do with their circumstances but everything to do with the hope that they have and the fruits of doing things God‘s way not by your own efforts but out of a genuine and real relationship with him. As for this family I can’t even begin to follow what’s going on, I know to pray, not my will or my understanding, but I pray for God‘s higher ways and gods greater Solutions over this situation. Amen
The ex boyfriend was said to be in rehab at this date. But his mother doesn’t get along with Veronica any more.
Why didn’t the grandma report the no show of the Veronica and her friend? That is really suspect. As this was a scheduled plan
Are the kids missing as well? I can't quite comprehend this.
No.
Kids are with Grandma who the two ladies were on the way to meet.
Me neither.
@@naturistfred Thanks!
Ok, sounds like we know who the culprit is.... the ex-husband and grandmother
I agree
YUP!
Substance Abuse and his mother has the kid’s ⁉️ that sound’s backward’s ‼️
So the husband of one of the missing women actually found the car instead of the police officer’s? Suspicious at best and I pray these ladies are found safe and soon.
How is that suspicious? Please explain
The current husband of Veronica found the car BECAUSE HE KNEW THE ROUTE THEY WERE TAKING.
Based on that when they didn't arrive he went out driving the route and found it abandoned and called the LE.
@ bettydamnboop
Not really. Her ex-husband is suspicious.
I want to know what the police are actually doing , the information is unbelievably sketchy , why didn't they find the car , why aren't they questioning the ex and his mother , seems if his mother wanted custody then she wouldn't be the first to turn to murder to get custody, if its not the ex then his mother has hired someone.
What I dont get is why the ones husband followed them there and found the car that seems odd.
Her husband knew the route of travel so he went looking himself. It makes sense
the mother is only 27, her kids can't be old enough to go to high school.
In a very small community, probably all grade levels are at the same location/ under one roof regardless of age.
I went to school that has K-12th grade
In a small town ALL GRADES ARE IN SAME BUILDING.
The school is being cautious to TRY to prevent the worst case scenario from happening
I agree. I looked it up and, it is just one school K-12, I don’t think they closed the school bc she went there. It was close to where the car was found.
Good point.
12 News did an interview w/OSBI & the officer said Texas County Sheriff's found the vehicle.
That’s because they’re liars. The investigative model has long been ask the community for help then take the credit.
Children lose once again no matter the outcome.
According to court records, 3/22/24, father of the kids is supposed to be in rehab at Salvation Army.
@@dianegreyson8787 When Diane? Where did U hear that?
Veronica is not married. She has a boyfriend. And the car was Jillians. Veronica had issues too. Supervised visitation are for reasons. And usually not good ones
Not true in all cases trust me I know judges , lawyers r corrupt , legal criminals sharing same bottle of wine .. only stating a judge’s decision can be wrong or purchased .. it’s not always true as u state shame on u .. u walk around w your eyes closed , a easily manipulated person ?? Unless you know facts true story you don’t know diddly kime
Oh for sure, there was a reason why the judge gave custody to the mother in law and not the biological mother.
As i stated.... 🙄😳
@@naturistfred not true .. judges & lawyers have control of your kids once you divorce and start court .. only 1% of judges are decent there all mostly corrupt as well @ same as lawyers they all share the money and the same bottle of wine .. don’t believe anything unless u truly know facts .. this system is way f up and corrupt they rarely work with the constitution of law they feel there above anyone cuz they have the power doesn’t mean they make right decisions it is way corrupt in the USA court system .. they just randomly pic a grandparent there’s no tyme or reason .. the ones suffering are the children .. children would rather sit on a pile of poo 💩 & b with there mommy ‘!!
@@dianegreyson8787 I’m praying 🙏🏻 it’s bad because they never picked up the kid no mom would miss pick up ever … 5 days ? 😳 I just learned of this case today . Ty Diane ☝️
Why is this bizarre? Custody disputes, missing parent...happens often unfortunately.
Why do I feel like this is not going to end well for these two ladies? Praying for them to be found alive...but hope is sinking.
Sending alot of Prayers that these women are found safe 🙏 ❤
No Veronica never made it to the 4 corners trading post where the exchange was at. So that’s why the grandma not reporting any no show is suspect. She knew Veronica was on her way. I believe the kids are 8 and 6. The little 6 year olds birthday was April 2.
One of those mothers was a court appointed guardian which you all are NOT mentioning...
Yep. Foul play.
Fishy!
I will be surprised if these two women are found alive. I feel so bad for those poor kids.
Who knew that they were going there ? Where they set up ?
Everyone. It was a planned birthday visit but the mom was afraid to go alone and her pastors wife offered to drive her.
Husband knew, boyfriend knew, grandma knew. The trip wasn’t a secret.
Strange.
What does not make sense is 2 women missing. Why would he kill both women?
Because he cannot afford to leave a witness.
If they are dead, there is no witnesses.
Witness
Moms are in hiding ? Ex husband is bad person ?
OSBI just announced based on evidence in the vehicle... there is reason to believe foul play was involved.
@@whitneyweber6404 oh Ty meaning what tho ? Ex male after ex mom ?
Um…I don’t think Butler is married…
Yeah, the grandmother and baby Daddy are about to go down. I’m guessing they don’t understand they left a digital footprint and data/communications that will result in their conviction.
what is being done? who is handling this?
Wow somethings happened and its looking grim like a family member done did something!
Hmmmm I would check the husband and his friends
Again. Make better choices about who you have children with.
Ex is drying out, etc.
Had been arrested for having weapons and he’s a felon.
2015 was a busy yr for Veronica. Graduating, and losing the children in a custody dispute. 🤷♀️
I had to rewatch that part, I thought I had misheard. That is pretty wild.
Ask the husband
Or
Ex husband
Three possibilities...
-ran away, someone took their lives, they were kidnapped at gunpoint. Alot is not adding up. Whatever the case, I hope the case is solved soon. I can only imagine how the families and the children are feeling right now.
Sad to say, but nearly 50% of murders in the US every year go unsolved. In this day and age, that's hard to believe, but true.
Wasnt he in rehab? Can you just leave there and come back?
The ex of Veronica his mother owns a lot of land. So she may have some ties in that town
Yes the mom’s brother is not allowed to be any where near the kids.
American families ✝️🇺🇸🏴
How old is the child?
I'm confused about the details here. A custody dispute in 2015? Veronica would have been eighteen or nineteen.
Evidence of foul play in missing Kansas women: OSBI
If the keys are not in it they need to make copies to turn it on a key maker can make the key turn it on and see the condition of car
Sounds like grandma didnt vall police when mom turned up missing. Why fid her husband have to gond the car? Where eere law enforcement?
Women...please take steps to protect yourselves. Ive recently gotten a gun and other things. This is a horrible world for people to take other people's lives. Praying they find them. 🙏🙏💞
Highly unlikely that Veronica's children are high school age.
The school is k thru 12.
First your new’s said that the woman didn’t really know each other then you said that the police found the car and now the husband found the car ⁉️
It's not Hugo-town. Hu-ga-ton
Did the ladies drive to ex mother-in-law and he was there waiting for them?
Age 6 and 8 The little girl just had her birthday April 2.
Wheres school camera
I heard Veronica's ex had been in prison and just got out. Whose mother are the kids staying with?
This is terrible, where are these women?
There are so many contradicting stories of who found the car. Another vehicles saw the car on the side of the road window smashed and reported that. Then the sheriffs say they found the car. Now the husband and some other form of police just now. Anyway the vehicle that saw it saw it at 10 ish am. And they left their town at around 9 am. Car was 10 minutes away from destination
"I believe it might be...". "Believing" doesn't make it truth, and we all know what "might be" means…statements like this adds to terrible journalism. Here's a thought: don't say it until you KNOW it to be true!
Yes 🙌 💯!!
Then they will be crucified for "hiding" information.
A preacher, a husband, and an ex? There's three good clues without mentioning the boyfriend with felonies and drug addiction problems.
I'm confident that this will be solved fairly quickly.
You have to figure out who will gain more from the ladies, Including $$$! Pray the two ladies are found safe, so they can hugs their children soon.
When the family courts screw you, one can look for more creative options.
So the father DISCOVERED the abandoned vehicle ?
Gee, nothing suspicious there.
No. Her new man found it
Oh, no. Not by the husband?! Hmm. 🤔
This story doesn't make sense
Speculation just say I don’t know.
Any truth to the rumor that the mom's brother was SA the kids?
Yes, it was in the custody court records - which were quickly sealed.
@@diana6842 wow, that's awful
@@SharpTac That's why the court required supervised visits because she previously ignored the court orders requiring her to keep the kids away from her brother.
@@diana6842 if she ignored the court on such a serious issue she should have lost custody forever.
@@SharpTac I agree.
Is this story full of holes so fill them with conjecture??
They will solve this. Definitely not accidental.
Better safe than sorry
Police need to talk to the EX.
This is such a a weird story! Maybe they had tried to meet the ex to do the exchange and got ambushed. What the heck is this about and what does it have to do with that lockdown??
Is the paternal grandmother the father’s mother?
Yes
😕it don’t look good
Maybe they are being held there, at the school..
Please help Oklahoma War Veterans and Families in Ward 3, tell the OKC City Council to vote NO on PUD 1983!
The grandmother is in on it. She needs to be investigated and get those grandkids away from her!!!
Husband did it
This is why you carry a concealed licensed weapon.
I just did a reading on this case 😢
What did you conclude? Assuming bad,had a bad feeling about this the minute it came out.
are the 2 ladies' partners ? Or friends?
why do we always think its the husband...and then it turns out it is...