brock sumile Oh man - a Sloppy/MacFarland Fabrications junkyard collab! James and Cleetus and Matt and Jeremy from Fasterproms and gotta get Jamie and Brent from PFI in there! Please make this a thing!!! @pfispeed @cleetusmacfarland @fasterproms
@@interstatemotorcompany2355 haha I see we suscribe to the same youtubers seeing them all together would be like a kid watching the avengers for the first time
The truck itself is like riding a couch on the high seas during hurricane season. Stock lq4/ s475 combo is awesome. Starts and cruises like a stock LS. 4l80 was shot when I bought it, Tci unit in its place now w circle d converter.
@@codyharris8736 I just bought a 90 that looks exactly like this. Just older style dash and 4x4. Putting a aluminum LS th400 and Ford 9” once the 8.5 goes out
I had creep as well, but didn’t add another gate. I just added some curved pipe to the wastegate piping to make the exhaust flow into it better. Basically gave it a radius instead of just a sharp angle. Fixed the problem for me with a 44mm waste gate 6.0 VS7875 billet. Not sure what size his gate is. Awesome truck I really like the sleeper look with the tailpipe !!!
Always interesting and informative, Matt. I really appreciate what you do for the build community with your transparency, testing, and knowledge sharing.
M773 we got a good amount of them around here. Most are driven almost daily too. For sure every weekend. Definitely a lot more cars making a lot more power than previous years. The car scene has gone down hill but there is a lot of heavy hitters
M773 yeah we got a local demon and a pile of hellcats around here. Most of the faster cars are LS with a power adder of sorts. I can think of about 5 LSA powered cars making around 650-850 just within a 15 mile radius. Low ten second cars that don’t take trailers to the track. Lol. My procharged z06 is no slouch but there’s a fair amount of cars I can’t hang with......yet 🤘
My 2011 4.8L single 70mm ON3 turbo kit, 55lb injectors, single 320LPH pump, rockers upgrade, pushrods upgrade, PAC660 springs, valves lapped lightly, piston top cleaned and cylinder walls inspected/cleaned, new timing and sensor, ARP head bolts and Mahle MLS head gaskets, TSP stage 2 turbo cam with a built 4L80E with a stock converter, 44k trans cooler and 3.23 gear with a 275/60/20 tire making it about a 3.06 made well over 600RWHP with the 11lb spring. It had the 8lb spring in it and had boost creep up to about 6400RPM to 13psi, but it had a pinched wastegate diaphragm then fixed that and put in the 11lb spring and it seemed to have remedied most of the creep, but I am thinking it may need a second wastegate on the crossover. Other than the (reputable tuner) that tuned it and corrupted my ECM it was good to go except for the fact that I could not drive it except at low speed. I tried a burnout and it went into Reduced Power Mode, tried hard throttle on the street and it went into Reduced Power Mode and obviously couldn't Rev it while cold or it would go into Reduced Power Mode also which I don't do, but whatever. So a ton of codes popped up after I got it back from the tuner before I ever revved it up or anything and all I did was change out the water pump and thermostat then after burping the coolant system that is when I tried the rest. Unfortunately now I am having to have a guy in Ohio now help me with my new ECM, HP Tuners and remote tuning my truck. I am not sure how hard it is going to be to street tune it, but I hope we can get it done. Been without my truck running and driving for over 6 months now and I just bought everything to rebuild the rear end, Eaton LSD differential, Motive 30 spline axles, 4.10 ring/pinion, all new seals/races/bearings/bolts/fluid/gasket, etc...
Love this truck..... Looks like it should be at deaths doorstep with a 4,3 v6 or something.... Long bed isn't as cool as a short box but what sleeper is going out to look stylish.. they're going after blood 😁🤘... Keep it up and have a great day guys
Have you seen Matt explain the stock ECU power enrichment? He says some are programmed to enrich at like 90% throttle after 60 second I think. So basically never. So you guys could probably wake up your stock setups with just a tune!
Could you upload this tune at the Tune Cabinet? Sloppy Mechanics video's finally got me to mod my own truck. Love the looks I get when I'm at the stop lights. They be like, why is that guys exhaust coming out the fender?
Are the bank 1 and bank 2 02 sensor readings using the stock sensors or did you switch them to wideband sensors? If so how did you change the parameters to read them ?
@@SloppyMechanics looking to install on a 4 gen Camaro, used sts turbo. On a 6.0liter, gen 3 block. Ls3 top end, heads and intake with stage 2 cam. 5-8 psi boost, daily driven in the northeast.
Keep shorty headers or stocks and exhaust wrap the hot side and you'll be good, I run a 76mm gt45r with a sheetmetal intake only LS1 and a slapped together kit and made 520whp/530tq @ 9.5#s pump 91 in crappy Nevada air. Still had stock cats and resonators on the car. And a inline fuel system similar parts that sloppy uses but old owner mistakenly told me the inj he had were 60#s when they really were like 25#s at 4bar. Id keep the cold side 3" or under so it builds boost faster instead of filling up larger diameter pipe. And if you some searching you can find good flowing oil pumps that are silent to feed the turbo
DONT BS ME; what RwHP can i expect with a 220,000 km 5.3LS/vortec running stock everything, just vats removed and maybe dual 2.25 ID flowmaster super 40 /44 series exhaust? 230 ish? What about after a Elgin 1840 p and shorty headers? 280ish? wil lthis require a tune to get 280 or maybe do 300 with a tune? it will be in an 84 cutlass so are longtubes even possible or would they drag over speedbumps and such? especially if i lower it 1.5 to 2 "?
Still cool but he should get a converter and an electric cut out or loud valve i think I prefer electric just because you can ake power and keep it quite
You said could tow you think really capable with that setup on ccsb nv4500 4x4 I'm building any advice really I'm trying get all the swap parts together it has BBC in it at moment
I've got a '96 Toyota Tacoma that I may throw an LS in. The stock V6 it came with has about 300k miles on it so it's about time for an upgrade. Anyone have any experience with putting a LS in a Tacoma?
Would you be willing to tune my junk? 1968 Chevy c10 fleetside. Ugly as hell. 6.0 stock cam. Nnbs intake. eBay 102, vs7875 billet wheel. Hd2 80e with stock converter on decaps
jesus. well, if you are really interested in that i just dont say no anymore, if we can setup a day and whatever and come to terms yes. email sloppymechanics@gmail.com to schedule something, but if you're anywhere near infamous auto he can do it, dario is the man
How does that stage 2 Sloppy cam d in a heavier 4x4 truck? on a 5.3? I am putting togeather a gen4 5.3/6L80E with an on3 78/75. truck weighs approx 6200lbs
Joe Weisser dropping compression to run a tiny bit more boost will still come out to be the same power if thats the only thing changed(your still limited to a set cylinder pressure no matter how you make that pressure), less compression and more boost just equals more lag and less power out of boost.
electron being ok I have a 96 Cheyenne that I was wanting to put an ls in and have a similar setup to the truck in the video just mine would have a 5.3. do they sell swap kit for the C1500 to LS?
@Jim Lahey omg lol. You are not serious. Theres not a single LS enthusiast who doesn't know how swappable they are, especially into fucking Chevy trucks lol. Lmfao
Not to be annoying but how different does the VE table look on a flex fuel tune vs pump gas? Are all the calculations for ethanol done in the flex table? I am currently trying to get my shit running on pump only with that no bs tune.
It's cool to see cleetus shouting you out on his junkyard builds and taking your advice
we have a bit of a unlikely admiration of each other, a bromance if you will
@@SloppyMechanics haha maybe one day u guys can collaborate I know u don't care about the attention but still be fawkin cherry
brock sumile Oh man - a Sloppy/MacFarland Fabrications junkyard collab! James and Cleetus and Matt and Jeremy from Fasterproms and gotta get Jamie and Brent from PFI in there! Please make this a thing!!! @pfispeed @cleetusmacfarland @fasterproms
@@interstatemotorcompany2355 haha I see we suscribe to the same youtubers seeing them all together would be like a kid watching the avengers for the first time
Fuck cleetus
That thing has the perfect look. Super quiet exhaust with a boost actuated loud valve and nobody would know
If you want it to go 9s you just need to put $12,000 Powerglide in it, perfect junkyard build ;)
When someone doesn’t get the joke^
I seen a couple powerglide transmisson go for a few hundred why is it 12k
I own this truck now. Pretty awesome to see it in one of your videos, Matt!
How reliable has this setup been?
Yes please let us know how reliable
The truck itself is like riding a couch on the high seas during hurricane season. Stock lq4/ s475 combo is awesome. Starts and cruises like a stock LS. 4l80 was shot when I bought it, Tci unit in its place now w circle d converter.
@@codyharris8736 can you light wheels up in 3rd?? or that is dificult in an automatic?
@@codyharris8736 I just bought a 90 that looks exactly like this. Just older style dash and 4x4. Putting a aluminum LS th400 and Ford 9” once the 8.5 goes out
I had creep as well, but didn’t add another gate. I just added some curved pipe to the wastegate piping to make the exhaust flow into it better. Basically gave it a radius instead of just a sharp angle. Fixed the problem for me with a 44mm waste gate 6.0 VS7875 billet. Not sure what size his gate is.
Awesome truck I really like the sleeper look with the tailpipe !!!
Those older chevy's have huge engine bays.
Basically a closet.
Just like your mom
Always interesting and informative, Matt. I really appreciate what you do for the build community with your transparency, testing, and knowledge sharing.
You don’t understand how thankful we are that you muted out the noise so we could hear the music 🥲
It blew the intake off, and everyone kinda just ignored it.
oh we knew, trust me
Probably popped with the force of 10 balloons😂😂😂
Ever heard of don’t stick your hands near a running engine or spinning turbo?
Popping the air intake is just one way of controlling boost!
Slip happens
This is my dream for the 1998 DCSB sitting in my back yard. Thanks for more inspiration gentlemen.
Every video from start to finish. Great stuff Matt. Thanks for the entertainment and knowledge you share I have learned lots.
It’s crazy how fast the “norm” is now days. 500+ WHP cars are nothing special anymore lol. Shit is getting nutty. Lotta 700+ on the road now.
M773 we got a good amount of them around here. Most are driven almost daily too. For sure every weekend. Definitely a lot more cars making a lot more power than previous years. The car scene has gone down hill but there is a lot of heavy hitters
M773 yeah we got a local demon and a pile of hellcats around here. Most of the faster cars are LS with a power adder of sorts. I can think of about 5 LSA powered cars making around 650-850 just within a 15 mile radius. Low ten second cars that don’t take trailers to the track. Lol. My procharged z06 is no slouch but there’s a fair amount of cars I can’t hang with......yet 🤘
I remember when 300whp and mid 13's was fast 🤣🤣🤣
My 2011 4.8L single 70mm ON3 turbo kit, 55lb injectors, single 320LPH pump, rockers upgrade, pushrods upgrade, PAC660 springs, valves lapped lightly, piston top cleaned and cylinder walls inspected/cleaned, new timing and sensor, ARP head bolts and Mahle MLS head gaskets, TSP stage 2 turbo cam with a built 4L80E with a stock converter, 44k trans cooler and 3.23 gear with a 275/60/20 tire making it about a 3.06 made well over 600RWHP with the 11lb spring. It had the 8lb spring in it and had boost creep up to about 6400RPM to 13psi, but it had a pinched wastegate diaphragm then fixed that and put in the 11lb spring and it seemed to have remedied most of the creep, but I am thinking it may need a second wastegate on the crossover. Other than the (reputable tuner) that tuned it and corrupted my ECM it was good to go except for the fact that I could not drive it except at low speed. I tried a burnout and it went into Reduced Power Mode, tried hard throttle on the street and it went into Reduced Power Mode and obviously couldn't Rev it while cold or it would go into Reduced Power Mode also which I don't do, but whatever. So a ton of codes popped up after I got it back from the tuner before I ever revved it up or anything and all I did was change out the water pump and thermostat then after burping the coolant system that is when I tried the rest. Unfortunately now I am having to have a guy in Ohio now help me with my new ECM, HP Tuners and remote tuning my truck. I am not sure how hard it is going to be to street tune it, but I hope we can get it done. Been without my truck running and driving for over 6 months now and I just bought everything to rebuild the rear end, Eaton LSD differential, Motive 30 spline axles, 4.10 ring/pinion, all new seals/races/bearings/bolts/fluid/gasket, etc...
The stock 4l80e converter is soft at low rpm. It will do for those getting started on a build, without the extra expense.
I ran the stock 80e in my 5.3/gt45 build for quite a while. It holds the power fine, just takes a month of Sundays to get it excited.
Love this truck..... Looks like it should be at deaths doorstep with a 4,3 v6 or something.... Long bed isn't as cool as a short box but what sleeper is going out to look stylish.. they're going after blood 😁🤘... Keep it up and have a great day guys
Give it a aluminum ladder rack.... And some mud in the right rear for traction
I would throw an ugly aluminum topper on it with crank out windows and screens
If you want a good chuckle, turn on the closed captioning and read how they translated all of the technical automotive terms. Lol
I just picked up a 90’s OBS. I have a gen 4 Aluminum LS with gapped rings already. Th400 and Ford 9” ready to go in!
Man, that whistle...leaving the deck of the aircraft carrier.
2:02 when he lets off it pukes the intake hose...nice!
This is definitely one of the best sleepers ever
Oh I just love my 06 2500 6.0 the thing pulls hard factory 4:10 posi. can’t imagine it with some boost
Love mine too. It's an 04 6.0 with 4.10.
Have you seen Matt explain the stock ECU power enrichment? He says some are programmed to enrich at like 90% throttle after 60 second I think. So basically never. So you guys could probably wake up your stock setups with just a tune!
@@grabasandwich that is nuts didn't hear that part. I have the same setup.
I have an 01 Suburban 2500 with the 6.0L. Trying to figure out what is the best way to get that tank peppier. Anyone?
Tune it. The stock power enrichment settings are good aweful on the 6.0l trucks and suvs.
Those single cab 2wd trucks are the lightest as well, great look very cool rig!
If you put a blow off value you won't blow the intake hose off. It's due to air after you let off the throttle the air left has no where to escape.
This is awesome, thanks for sharing Denbob!
Could you upload this tune at the Tune Cabinet? Sloppy Mechanics video's finally got me to mod my own truck. Love the looks I get when I'm at the stop lights. They be like, why is that guys exhaust coming out the fender?
What a cool ass truck. I bet it's really fun to drive around. I'm sure he surprises people often with it!
Ok... it looks like this dude has a freakin dyno in his HOUSE! I'm hatin! LOL
In the process of turboing my long bed work truck. I can't wait until the rest of the parts are back in stock😭
Sweet street sleeper!!! Those Honda punks will never know what hit em!!!😂😂😂
🤣🤣🤣
Nothing like doing dyno pulls in a closed up shop and no ventilation
how much does a build like this roughly cost, aside from the cost of the vehicle
3-6k
I had boost creep on my camaro and found the diaphragm was leaking. put in new waste gate and solve it. Got to be careful on changing springs
I wanna do this EXACT setup in my 93 rcsb obs.😤
Are the bank 1 and bank 2 02 sensor readings using the stock sensors or did you switch them to wideband sensors? If so how did you change the parameters to read them ?
As usual very impressive numbers from a homemade turbo kit. What's your opinion on rear mount turbos?
I’ve done it, I say only do it if you have too
@@SloppyMechanics looking to install on a 4 gen Camaro, used sts turbo. On a 6.0liter, gen 3 block. Ls3 top end, heads and intake with stage 2 cam. 5-8 psi boost, daily driven in the northeast.
Keep shorty headers or stocks and exhaust wrap the hot side and you'll be good, I run a 76mm gt45r with a sheetmetal intake only LS1 and a slapped together kit and made 520whp/530tq @ 9.5#s pump 91 in crappy Nevada air. Still had stock cats and resonators on the car. And a inline fuel system similar parts that sloppy uses but old owner mistakenly told me the inj he had were 60#s when they really were like 25#s at 4bar. Id keep the cold side 3" or under so it builds boost faster instead of filling up larger diameter pipe. And if you some searching you can find good flowing oil pumps that are silent to feed the turbo
Damn good lord blew the intake hose off
Is it normal to push some coolant? My 6.0 would push a small amount when running on 14psi but none on 6psi
Looks like im switching up my OBS build lol
Doesn't the OBS name only apply to Fords?
@@WTC7 It applies to Chevrolet/GMC 88-98 trucks aswell
@@WTC7 wrong
@@electronbeing5473 Who are you, CNN?
J T OBS applies to anything from 88-98 trucks
Sometimes also for the 70s square bodies
After 98 they went for the new rounded body style stuff
I literally have the exact setup truck and all. Will this tune be available in the cabinet?
It’s literally available now, I flashed the p01 don’t bs me decaps tune and turned off flex and tuned from there
@@SloppyMechanics thanks Matt I appreciate all the info
Hey if u don’t mind me asking for you to run e85 did u have to change any of the fuel line or just the fuel pump and injectors?
What size fuel pump was he running
What could he do to get more power out of that setup? Like 50-75 more horses. Maybe 100.
Lol at 02:01 the intake was like "fuck this shit!" Haha
I know I’m behind on seeing this video but on the last pull of the truck the turbo smoked. Why does it do that?
DONT BS ME; what RwHP can i expect with a 220,000 km 5.3LS/vortec running stock everything, just vats removed and maybe dual 2.25 ID flowmaster super 40 /44 series exhaust? 230 ish?
What about after a Elgin 1840 p and shorty headers? 280ish? wil lthis require a tune to get 280 or maybe do 300 with a tune?
it will be in an 84 cutlass so are longtubes even possible or would they drag over speedbumps and such? especially if i lower it 1.5 to 2 "?
Still cool but he should get a converter and an electric cut out or loud valve i think I prefer electric just because you can ake power and keep it quite
I should probably watch the whole thing before i comment
You said could tow you think really capable with that setup on ccsb nv4500 4x4 I'm building any advice really I'm trying get all the swap parts together it has BBC in it at moment
I've got a '96 Toyota Tacoma that I may throw an LS in. The stock V6 it came with has about 300k miles on it so it's about time for an upgrade. Anyone have any experience with putting a LS in a Tacoma?
I wish I could sneak turbo my dad's '96 Chevy pickup lol
turbo 305 go kaboom
Shane's Trains it’s a 350 unless that’s what you meant and had a dyslexic moment
Bryan Lettow I could’ve swore those pickups came with 305s as well. My dads was a 305
Shane's Trains maybe some do I haven’t seen one.
Would you be willing to tune my junk? 1968 Chevy c10 fleetside. Ugly as hell. 6.0 stock cam. Nnbs intake. eBay 102, vs7875 billet wheel. Hd2 80e with stock converter on decaps
are you tristate near PA? are you willing do adhere to some weird scheduling and sundays only about a month or two out on scheduling etc?
Sloppy Mechanics I would tow my junk down to PA from western Canada to have you tune it lol.
jesus. well, if you are really interested in that i just dont say no anymore, if we can setup a day and whatever and come to terms yes. email sloppymechanics@gmail.com to schedule something, but if you're anywhere near infamous auto he can do it, dario is the man
Sloppy Mechanics I would be willing to drive from Michigan whenever you are ready.
Sloppy Mechanics I’ll be in touch. Thank you.
did you guys fail the maf and splice in an iat sensor and put it in the cold side?
Yes, yes
You purchased a stand alone ? Or used the 6.0 harness ?
All hail the sleeper!!!!
Once again! Thanks Matt.
*Great truck id love to have that setup in my 1987 F150 . The 5.0 i have in there now is all dark no bite* DexterousX
Just think what it could do if you floor it.
How does that stage 2 Sloppy cam d in a heavier 4x4 truck? on a 5.3? I am putting togeather a gen4 5.3/6L80E with an on3 78/75. truck weighs approx 6200lbs
I think a Trick Flow 30602001 would suit the application better. Specs are: 216/220 @.050 and 114 LSA
That 216/220* .560" is the Sloppy stage 1 cam. I put it in my 5.3 7875 4l80e Silverado, which does rolling burnouts in boost.
I see the delivered torque there how accurate is that because it says like 514 or something and you made 600 at the wheels right
Almost identical to my build.
do the headlights look like that because its a 2500?
Stock rails and FPR? Gen 3?
Yes
Does the 6.0 in this truck have stock bottem end?
what song at 3:55?? so good
Is this tune in the Sloppy tune Cabinet?
That's awesome
Do you have to change pushrods for cam swap with 585 lift or use same size?
If ur getting a new cam u dont need pushrods.
Only when u regrind a cam you need pushrods or with cams with smaller base circle
My next project will be a no BS copy but I want a 5sp in it
My obs needs too step it up like this one.
Highway pulls.
Matt, what size wastegate was on there?
Can my little 4.8 make any power? Obviously it seems boost is needed
Tyler McGuire you must be new here
You can make stupid power with a 4.8. 600 crank would be easy. Hell 500 tire isn't hard to get from a turbo 4.8
GM 4.8 is the motor you wanna boost!
Single fuel pump?
Iirc yes single 400-450
Insanity...wow
thanks for all your work sloppy
What’s a good price to pay for a gen 4 6.0
Stock 4l80e?
Anybody know what exhaust manifold he is using And where I could buy the at I have the same truck and wanting to go turboIt has an LS swap into it
2:01 link for the BOV?
Nice!
Not bad
Sbe?
Its a lovely day today....... Braaaaap ...."""""WHAT the hell """ Did you see that white shit box truck blow the tyres of the rims at 60 MPH
I really just need to stop being a bitch and do this to my '05 2500hd. Already has the cam and springs in it lol. Love it.
Do it!
Wow now that's a 💤 . Good shit man
Have you ever tried adding a little more timing up top to help boost creep?I am not a tuner just something I heard someone taking about.
Yep sometimes it does work if you’re under timed
If it had a rear bumper then I’d consider it a truck
he bought it like this, it came with a roll pan for some reason, he got a nice shitty service truck bumper to bolt on there IIRC
Sloppy Mechanics yay!!! Glad to hear that hahaha
Where can you buy this turbo ?
Not sure about that exact turbo but VS racing sells one of the exact size and spec
Damn she beautiful
How do I get ahold of u to tune/dyno my malibu
Sloppymechanics@gmail.com give me as much info as possible and if you’re local and I agree to diddle it, we can make a day
Hey Matt I have a 98 ls1 with a 7875 would u recommend me swapping heads to 317s to drop compression a bit?
No
Joe Weisser why would u wana drop compression
For boost. The 98 heads I was told suck cause there is a notch on the bottom of the heads that blow out the headgaskets
Im just gonna probably run it till she blows and save for a 6.0
Joe Weisser dropping compression to run a tiny bit more boost will still come out to be the same power if thats the only thing changed(your still limited to a set cylinder pressure no matter how you make that pressure), less compression and more boost just equals more lag and less power out of boost.
How easy is it to swap an LS into a c1500?
It's pretty difficult
electron being ok I have a 96 Cheyenne that I was wanting to put an ls in and have a similar setup to the truck in the video just mine would have a 5.3. do they sell swap kit for the C1500 to LS?
@@Murdertruckmafia no, there is no kit for a vehicle that had a small block chevy to fit an LS. You have to custom fab everything
@Jim Lahey whooosh!! The guys asking if you can LS swap a chevy! You don't see my humour? You must be so dumb hahaha
@Jim Lahey omg lol. You are not serious. Theres not a single LS enthusiast who doesn't know how swappable they are, especially into fucking Chevy trucks lol. Lmfao
How do I get a shirt bro I need please
Can you put this tune and your tune file so I can use it I really appreciate everything you do
It’s quite literally the don’t bs me decapped p01 tune with minor tweaks
Not to be annoying but how different does the VE table look on a flex fuel tune vs pump gas? Are all the calculations for ethanol done in the flex table? I am currently trying to get my shit running on pump only with that no bs tune.
I hate Long Bed Trucks Lol
T4 or t6 s475? Just asking.
T6 he mentioned it
He did say dumbass
Why, yes he did. Missed it. Large frame ftw!
That’s like asking if his truck has 2 doors or 4
coal roads!
Must have missed it, anyone tell me what size turbo that is?? Looks huge
S475
I wanna swap my civics engine for summin like a b20. Do you do them kinda cars?
What's a ballpark figure on cost for a build like this. I want to start an ls swap on an s10 I spun a bearing on.
Look up the don't bs me build. He goes over cost
@@k20nutz thx!
Depends on how good you are at finding parts and how much fab work you’re gonna do
put mods in the descripcion again