I'm so glad Patric Gagne wrote this book. I'm a little over half through the audiobook (which is free for Spotify subscribers FYI). The audiobook reading is by the author and is VERY engaging and well-read. Since I'm only half-way through the book, forgive me if these questions/ideas have been addressed. The text has been so rich and stimulating for me and there's no-one else talking about many of these things. So : -The text made me think of the recent article regarding ADHD folks and Maslow's hierarchy of needs. The main crux of the article was that for ADHD and other neurodivergent folks the "need to feel alive" is a basic need. And, like Supernova Momma says - misbehavior is communication of an unmet need. Clear parallels to the "apathy stress" the author describes in the book. -The text made me reflect on the inability of a psychopathic brain and autistic brain to be in the same brain, because of different fundamental variations in brain structure. Could the autistic brain hardware be a way for sociopath software to exist without becoming psychopathic hardware ? -I've been thinking a lot about how psychopathy, imho, (and potentially other personality disorders) not only need the traumatic experience and the psychopathic, or other divergent, brain hardware… but also possibly a "sick or otherwise divergent body hardware" that is : psychopathy could be developed later in life even if the hardware isn't from birth. Chronic pain has been shown to change the brain, for example. Thank you for your time. I am very inspired and reading the book helps me feel a little safer with myself and a little more understood.
4:38-5:01 THIS is such a genuinely and dare I say beautiful description of love! Non-possessive, non-transactional - that experiential description cuts out a lot of the big pitfalls of narcissism.
I just wanna say this is really interesting and I love being able to see this through your lens. This really shows how sociopaths are, too, humans, which it's kinda saddening to see it as such a dehumanizing condition. This helps me as an aspiring psychologist. Loved this vid
What do you mean by dehumanising condition? Do you mean that the condition itself dehumanises people or if people dehumanise those with this condition?
Do you stim? Do you stick rigorously to routines? Do you have any special interests you always had from early childhood in that you invest long hours of the day and have gained encyclopedic knowledge on? Are you very easily overstimulated by sensory stimuli such as sound, light, texture to an extent it's unbearable for you? Do you struggle with social relationships and social interaction? ASD is a spectrum but the spectrum is within these symptoms.
Thats bs and is spread among self styled experts on youtube. Sociopaths are goal oriented and dont need narcissistic supply. Narcissists are dependant on supply. Listen to Prof. Sam Vaknin
I would be interested in a video comparing the capacity for empathy among sociopaths and ASD. What are the similarities and differences among ASD and sociopathy?
Very interesting descriptors to give a rundown of your experience of love. However, one word you used, "transactional" - to me, it actually sounds like your love IS more transactional. You describe your love as being less predicated on emotion, so it sounds more predicated on mutual benefit and action. If we look at a love that is more driven by emotion rather than logistics - for example, a baby that does nothing but take from it's mother, yet the mother adores the child anyway because of an irrational, instinctual bond - I would describe *that* as less transactional, in that the mother isn't expecting some sort of active participation from the baby in order to love. It's more of an innocent, innate, pure love where the ego doesn't seek to plunder anything from another. Whereas when I picture a love that is less driven by emotion, I picture it as more based on a logistical symbiosis, more based on transaction and tangible benefit, because it doesn't seem to have that organic, underlying drive, like an innocent, non-intellectual love (like the one with mother and baby).
Sociopath isn’t a disorder per the DSM. You might specify anti social vs sociopath, which mind you IS on (like everything ever) on a spectrum. You’re welcome.
I'm so glad Patric Gagne wrote this book. I'm a little over half through the audiobook (which is free for Spotify subscribers FYI). The audiobook reading is by the author and is VERY engaging and well-read.
Since I'm only half-way through the book, forgive me if these questions/ideas have been addressed. The text has been so rich and stimulating for me and there's no-one else talking about many of these things. So :
-The text made me think of the recent article regarding ADHD folks and Maslow's hierarchy of needs. The main crux of the article was that for ADHD and other neurodivergent folks the "need to feel alive" is a basic need. And, like Supernova Momma says - misbehavior is communication of an unmet need. Clear parallels to the "apathy stress" the author describes in the book.
-The text made me reflect on the inability of a psychopathic brain and autistic brain to be in the same brain, because of different fundamental variations in brain structure. Could the autistic brain hardware be a way for sociopath software to exist without becoming psychopathic hardware ?
-I've been thinking a lot about how psychopathy, imho, (and potentially other personality disorders) not only need the traumatic experience and the psychopathic, or other divergent, brain hardware… but also possibly a "sick or otherwise divergent body hardware" that is : psychopathy could be developed later in life even if the hardware isn't from birth. Chronic pain has been shown to change the brain, for example. Thank you for your time. I am very inspired and reading the book helps me feel a little safer with myself and a little more understood.
Can you please further explain how the autistic brain is different from the sociopathic brain? Very interested in this. Thanks
4:38-5:01 THIS is such a genuinely and dare I say beautiful description of love! Non-possessive, non-transactional - that experiential description cuts out a lot of the big pitfalls of narcissism.
Her interview on the Armchair Expert podcast was a must-listen.
I just wanna say this is really interesting and I love being able to see this through your lens. This really shows how sociopaths are, too, humans, which it's kinda saddening to see it as such a dehumanizing condition.
This helps me as an aspiring psychologist. Loved this vid
What do you mean by dehumanising condition? Do you mean that the condition itself dehumanises people or if people dehumanise those with this condition?
I just finished your book, and found it fascinating. Thank you so much for sharing your story.
I identify a lot with her, especially the lack of empathy and feeling love differently. I’m just not sure if it’s sociopathy or the autism spectrum.
Do you stim? Do you stick rigorously to routines? Do you have any special interests you always had from early childhood in that you invest long hours of the day and have gained encyclopedic knowledge on? Are you very easily overstimulated by sensory stimuli such as sound, light, texture to an extent it's unbearable for you? Do you struggle with social relationships and social interaction? ASD is a spectrum but the spectrum is within these symptoms.
@@caddieohm7059 Calm down 🙄
This woman isn't a sociopath; she has "autism" lol
@@insertmyidentityhere they were just trying to help
All sociopaths are narcissists, but not all narcissists are sociopaths. Psychopaths are rare, HG Tudor is a narcissistic psychopath.
Thats bs and is spread among self styled experts on youtube. Sociopaths are goal oriented and dont need narcissistic supply. Narcissists are dependant on supply. Listen to Prof. Sam Vaknin
When she said, looking at it through that lens 😮
But what about the love you feel for your children as a mother? That’s gotta be a different feeling, right?
No
@@donaldanderson1092 yes
I would be interested in a video comparing the capacity for empathy among sociopaths and ASD. What are the similarities and differences among ASD and sociopathy?
this book was amazing
We all have narcissistic tendency as children. As an adult we each bring are narcissist child with us into adulthood.
Very interesting descriptors to give a rundown of your experience of love. However, one word you used, "transactional" - to me, it actually sounds like your love IS more transactional.
You describe your love as being less predicated on emotion, so it sounds more predicated on mutual benefit and action. If we look at a love that is more driven by emotion rather than logistics - for example, a baby that does nothing but take from it's mother, yet the mother adores the child anyway because of an irrational, instinctual bond - I would describe *that* as less transactional, in that the mother isn't expecting some sort of active participation from the baby in order to love. It's more of an innocent, innate, pure love where the ego doesn't seek to plunder anything from another. Whereas when I picture a love that is less driven by emotion, I picture it as more based on a logistical symbiosis, more based on transaction and tangible benefit, because it doesn't seem to have that organic, underlying drive, like an innocent, non-intellectual love (like the one with mother and baby).
How does one know the difference between sociopathy or being on spectrum ADD ADDH Asperger’s etc seems quite a few traits overlap
Sociopath isn’t a disorder per the DSM. You might specify anti social vs sociopath, which mind you IS on (like everything ever) on a spectrum. You’re welcome.
She’s simply a narcissist.
Are you always such an insufferable twa*?....
Does having a sociopathic personality make you come off as a fraud? Just seems in authentic.
Looks like an interesting read.
Very interesting. I listened to the audio book and maaaan i was captivated
Amazing book.
Psychopath Test:
✅ Eat 🍖🥩 or 🌱🌽🍅?
✅ Sleep 💤 well at night?
✅ You’re a 😈!
❤
🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟
You are not what you have been labeled. Neither by your self or others. You do seem to project to cover your insecurity.
nah