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  • @1.4142
    @1.4142 Год назад +2156

    Together, we can make it happen!

    • @greenyleen7974
      @greenyleen7974 Год назад +377

      I vote for mosquitoes!

    • @Crausy
      @Crausy Год назад +134

      ​@@greenyleen7974let's start petition for that!

    • @cody5535
      @cody5535 Год назад +88

      I'm doing my part, are you?

    • @Crausy
      @Crausy Год назад +33

      @@cody5535 Yes

    • @slipperynickels
      @slipperynickels Год назад +101

      i’m strangling as many squirrels as i can

  • @PhilTruthborne
    @PhilTruthborne Год назад +661

    Personally i think we should just make the MIA category more widely known. Extinct is a strong and effective word but if it can't reasonably be used we kinda do need a good alternative for these cases.

    • @bosstowndynamics5488
      @bosstowndynamics5488 Год назад +40

      I think this is a better approach, because the true extinction category loses its impact a bit if species get unextincted, which does happen rarely to MIA critters

    • @colonelcorn9500
      @colonelcorn9500 Год назад +29

      The IUCN lists them as “Critically Endangered; Possibly Extinct”. The first one of these I learned about was the Baiji river dolphin.

    • @harubynspades
      @harubynspades Год назад +10

      @@bosstowndynamics5488 it doesn't happen as rarely as you think, it is very very highly common for a species to go missing and then reappear in a few years or months again. A huge number of them do get rediscovered sooner or later.

    • @thetachyon456
      @thetachyon456 Год назад +5

      We do have data deficient

    • @harubynspades
      @harubynspades Год назад +7

      @@thetachyon456 Data deficient is more for species of dubious taxonomic status or when we don't have enough information about their population status. It doesn't mean they are extinct.

  • @TerenceClark
    @TerenceClark Год назад +515

    The coelacanth species in the fossil record are absolutely extinct. What we found is another species in that order, the coelacanthiformes. The living species are pretty distantly related to the fossil coelacanths. They're just a lot more closely related to them than to anything else. I'm not trying to be annoyingly pedantic, but since we're talking about the species level it's good to be precise about what we found with the coelacanth.

    • @firytwig
      @firytwig Год назад +53

      Absolutely agree, there’s a lot of people who have the wrong takeaway from this whole coelocanth thing. Also the modern species has some notable, albiet minor differences in anatomy as well

    • @battlesheep2552
      @battlesheep2552 Год назад +35

      I also wonder about that whole statement about alligators being unchanged for millions of years when all we have access to are fossils. How do we know the soft tissue didn't change?

    • @fenhen
      @fenhen Год назад +26

      When talking about fossils you are almost never talking about species anyway.
      Almost every “species” of dinosaur you can think of is actually a genus.

    • @prometheus7387
      @prometheus7387 Год назад +7

      I mean, if we go by that, humans also acquired lots of mutations over the past 100000 years, so at what point are we considered a different species from the original human?

    • @Tinil0
      @Tinil0 Год назад +11

      @@battlesheep2552 I think it's best to just interpret statements like that as being lay-person speak, not scientific speak. The same species of crocodilians has absolutely not been alive and unchanged for millions of years. The fossils we have are just very closely related species that haven't had any super dramatic skeletal changes. "Unchanged" here is relatively speaking, not absolutely unchanged.
      Sadly science communication is always a compromise between precision and getting random people to actually understand what is being said. There is a reason that science talk can feel like a foreign language to Joe Schmoe, average non scientifically literate person. Well, ok, there is a lot of latin but I am not talking about that, I am talking about how it needs to be precise for scientific reasons and that precision requires some amount of education or familiarity to interpret.

  • @sakurakitsunestar
    @sakurakitsunestar Год назад +258

    Maybe we need a in-between stage for those missing creatures like we have endlings for species with too low a population count to not become eventually extinct

    • @davesdatasystems
      @davesdatasystems Год назад +17

      I completely agree with you, if you was to come up with a index for that, you might make millions. I would call it the IUCN Red index.

    • @deinsilverdrac8695
      @deinsilverdrac8695 Год назад +19

      That's called functionnaly extinct or missing species.

    • @lonestarr1490
      @lonestarr1490 Год назад +6

      @@davesdatasystems Why would they make millions off of it, lol?

  • @jeromeorji1057
    @jeromeorji1057 Год назад +217

    "The list of extinct species is incomplete. You can help by expanding it"

    • @lasercraft32
      @lasercraft32 5 месяцев назад +8

      "The Forbidden Pokedex" XD

    • @Toadey2012
      @Toadey2012 5 месяцев назад +2

      ​@@lasercraft32 LOL

  • @boy638
    @boy638 Год назад +109

    My biggest takeaway from the video is knowing there's a catfish simply called the fat catfish.
    Anyone knows its scientific name?

    • @AndyGneiss
      @AndyGneiss Год назад +19

      Maybe Rhizosomichthys totae, if I found the correct Wikipedia page.

    • @SioxerNikita
      @SioxerNikita Год назад +29

      Garfieldus Aqua Catus

    • @davidgustavsson4000
      @davidgustavsson4000 Год назад +16

      If we knew her name she wouldn't be a catfish.

    • @Swordfish42
      @Swordfish42 Год назад +3

      This totally made my day

    • @Eric-vs2he
      @Eric-vs2he Год назад +5

      Obesitus Aqua Catus

  • @MrARock001
    @MrARock001 Год назад +44

    There's also "functionally extinct" where there are known individuals still alive, but so few that the species will never recover and the individuals no longer provide a meaningful ecosystem function, like the northern white rhino.
    Given the broad definition that "there is not enough genetic diversity in the population left for it to recover" this could actually expand the number of species to ones with quite high overall populations, but whose genetic capacity to repopulate, due to habitat destruction / isolation of breeding populations, means that without drastic human intervention, species like the koala could be considered functionally extinct.

    • @alex_zetsu
      @alex_zetsu Год назад +9

      Cheetahs have actually undergone a serve population bottleneck. The current population comes from very narrow bottleneck. One study looking at DNA analysis suggested this bottleneck was at one point 2 individuals... for 3 generations. Getting down to a single mating pair and recovering is just about as little genetic diversity as you can get and doing it for multiple generations in a row is even harder. So I'm not willing to accept the concept of "there is not enough genetic diversity in the population left for it to recover." If you have a single mating pair and both parents are viable, sure incest among the next generation might make a lot of 2nd generation have all sorts of defects. But the possibly of further descendants who are not defective is not zero.

    • @MrARock001
      @MrARock001 Год назад +5

      @@alex_zetsu that's true, and I was considering mentioning it as a counter-example, but didn't know enough about the details to comment. I didn't know they had gotten down to only 2 individuals! I do know that the genetic bottleneck has significantly impaired the cheetah's gene pool though, and has left them susceptible to immune deficiencies. But you're absolutely right that so long as there are two viable mating individuals, it's not impossible for a species to recover.

    • @alex_zetsu
      @alex_zetsu Год назад +1

      @@MrARock001 The most conservative estimate used on the DNA studies show there was a population bottleneck. Further assuming random mating and negligible selection of the studied markers during that time would give a high certainty the modern population came from a mating pair. Worse, rather than being a mating pair for one generation, the next two generations were also reduced to a mating pair and that compounds the problem if you know how inbreeding works.
      I think we should relax those assumptions since no one mates randomly and whatever caused the bottleneck was likely excreting a selection pressure and it could have affected one of those markers. With more relaxed assumptions, we can conclude there was a bottleneck and it could have been as low as one mating pair, but it might not have been that bad. If we relax the criteria from "reduced to one mating pair" to "severe bottleneck" then it's not just cheetahs but many others which had recovered from such a state.
      As such, I don't really take the concept of a minimal level of genetic diversity to be viable all that much. Inbreeding is basically just playing lottery with genetics with worse odds than normal, but it doesn't eliminate all good outcomes.

    • @smalltime0
      @smalltime0 5 месяцев назад

      @@alex_zetsu Bottle necking also occurred with the Tasmanian Devil, and now they have contagious cancer. They bite each other playfully and those bites can pass on cancer.

    • @smalltime0
      @smalltime0 5 месяцев назад

      Northern White Rhinos might make a comeback if scientists can figure out how to use the embryos, eggs and sperm that were collected to get them to gestate in a southern white rhino.
      But very few seem like they're viable, so... not a lot of room to fuck up

  • @BennoWitter
    @BennoWitter Год назад +171

    Wollemia nobilis have been thought to be extinct for 65 million years and in 1994, they found this plant hidden in Australia. There are only 100 plants left on earth, one being in a small park in Germany, so they might become extinct again.

    • @ShirinRose
      @ShirinRose Год назад +26

      There are only 100 adult Wollemi pines in the wild, but there are surely plenty more being grown elsewhere. I happened to come across one at the Babbacombe Model Village in Torquay, England, just a couple of months ago, and I've seen others at various Botanic Gardens (mostly in Australia, but still)

    • @Usulcardo
      @Usulcardo Год назад +30

      Wrong. Just like the coelacanth situation, Wollemia nobilis is a modern species of Araucariaceae which is not known from any fossil material. It's a rare member of a very ancient lineage but it was never thought to be extinct because it simply wasn't known to science prior to the discovery of living specimens. So it's absolutely not thought to be extinct for 65 millions years lmao

    • @fbwsrd9910
      @fbwsrd9910 Год назад +12

      @@ShirinRose We have a wollemi pine in our backyard. They are very slow growers, which would explain the lack of adult trees, but you can buy young trees and it's not crazy expensive.

    • @Seth-Halo
      @Seth-Halo 8 месяцев назад +5

      ​@@Usulcardotbf, the first fossils were discovered in the 19th century and their lineage was thought to have gone extinct.
      While it may be accurate to say "science didn't know about this specific type of coelacanth it so it was never considered extinct" that is not entirely true.
      Sure they might not have considered that exact kind extinct. But it shares many similarities with ones they did consider extinct and they thought the entire line had gone extinct millions of years ago so considered every member of the species within the line extinct until the discovery in 1938.

    • @Ozraptor4
      @Ozraptor4 5 месяцев назад +1

      Wollemia type fossils vanish from the fossil record 2 million years ago, not 65 (given Australia doesn't even have a latest Cretaceous terrestrial fossil record to begin with)

  • @RobertMilesAI
    @RobertMilesAI Год назад +15

    Probably they should have an extra category, like "presumed extinct", for such species

    • @lion_brine_ninja6407
      @lion_brine_ninja6407 4 месяца назад

      NatureServe's ranks of species endangerment has a "Persumed Extinct" rank rather than Red List's "Extinct" rank

  • @Memezndreamz
    @Memezndreamz 8 месяцев назад +5

    I think a good idea is to make a category named presumably extinct. This will allow for animals that are possibly not extinct to be labeled based on their length of MIA, but the title will make people presume that they may still be alive to make sure protection acts aren’t disabled.

  • @PIXELPLEXYT246
    @PIXELPLEXYT246 Год назад +10

    There is only one animal species I want to go extinct.
    It's the mosquitoes.

    • @irrelevant2235
      @irrelevant2235 Год назад +3

      I second that! Mosquitoes are the most deadliest animal in the world! Personally for me, if there were no mosquitoes, my life would be so much better.

    • @PIXELPLEXYT246
      @PIXELPLEXYT246 Год назад +3

      @@irrelevant2235 Agree :)

    • @kakamanna123
      @kakamanna123 Месяц назад

      bro only female mosquitos drink blood from humans the male mosquitos are actually necessary for plants to grow if we didn't have mosquitos we wouldn't have many plants either so yeah be thankful that you have mosquitos even though they might be annoying they still have a purpose

  • @davidg5898
    @davidg5898 Год назад +62

    Ivory-billed woodpecker sightings haven't been confirmed, but there is growing evidence they are critically endangered, but not extinct.
    Mark Michaels, of Project Principalis, and his team just recently published in the scientific journal _Ecology and Evolution_ about their decade-long survey in Louisana where they collected strong evidence for the ivory-billed still be with us. Some of his work can be found here on YT, also.
    It's not definitive, but the evidence is mounting.

    • @dominikzelenak7423
      @dominikzelenak7423 Год назад +1

      Can you send me link to his channel?

    • @davidg5898
      @davidg5898 Год назад +4

      @@dominikzelenak7423 YT doesn't allow links in comments. I don't think he has his own channel, but others have featured him and his work. Just search for it.

  • @KnightSlasher
    @KnightSlasher Год назад +51

    When there is a will there is a way and these species are fighting hard enough to stay hidden from us which is a good thing sadly

    • @Peusterokos1
      @Peusterokos1 Год назад +6

      Just as you've said: if there's a will there's a way; We have to work harder to make them extinct then!

    • @WanderTheNomad
      @WanderTheNomad Год назад +7

      I don't think they're that much safer when we can't see them. For better or for worse, humans are a powerful species that can make huge impacts that we might not be able to see immediately.

  • @cebo494
    @cebo494 Год назад +47

    Seems like some sort of additional "Likely Extinct" category would make sense

    • @ghislainbugnicourt3709
      @ghislainbugnicourt3709 Год назад +12

      What about accepting that "extinct" always means "extinct unless we find one" ?

    • @Tata-ps4gy
      @Tata-ps4gy Год назад +9

      ​@@ghislainbugnicourt3709yes lol, we should protect extinct species just in case they aren't actually extinct

    • @laurentrobitaille2204
      @laurentrobitaille2204 Год назад +2

      @@ghislainbugnicourt3709
      What about species like Tyrannosaurus rex, the dodo, Stellar sea cow, etc.
      These are 100% gone, so we shouldn’t waste our efforts on these animals when they could be put on actually endangered species.

    • @ghislainbugnicourt3709
      @ghislainbugnicourt3709 Год назад

      @@laurentrobitaille2204 We're never 100% sure and it's fine, I'm not saying we should act differently because of this. It's just about fighting our urge to have definitive boxes to put stuff into.

    • @smalltime0
      @smalltime0 5 месяцев назад

      @@laurentrobitaille2204 I forget the species, but in Australia there was this tiny mouse-like thing that had been declared extinct and some kid found it after like 80 years of "extinction". He recognised it because he happened to have read about it (in a book of extinct species, weirdo) and realised that it wasn't a common mouse or a small bandicoot.

  • @manchest_hair_united1161
    @manchest_hair_united1161 Год назад +8

    __this list is incomplete, help Wikipedia expand this list__

  • @ebonyblack4563
    @ebonyblack4563 Год назад +56

    It's a shame that we can't have more accuracy due to the predation of companies that'd happily swoop in if more species were classified in the way that's believed.

  • @babilon6097
    @babilon6097 Год назад +66

    People tend to do the same with their hair. They refuse to admit that their gone. The fact of admitting alone has some kind of finality to it. And it can end all efforts to save them. So even when someone hasn't seen their hair for years, they don't like it being pointed out.

  • @Amonimus
    @Amonimus Год назад +23

    "More Spieces Should Be Labeled As Exctinct"
    If there's always a chance a member of an exctinct spieces is discovered, maybe we shouldn't mark any as definitely exctinct.

    • @Kurominos1
      @Kurominos1 Год назад

      i meran then you can label them as not extinct again
      the thing is
      jsut lets say thers really just 100 induviduals of an extinct spec left but we say its extinct
      then this spec can mostly live there in peace
      if we label it as missing ppl wil lgo out and look for it searchign for it
      disturbing it and in worse cases ruin its habitat with it
      like humans can be super destructiv ,,,,even if they dont want to or have actually just good things in mind
      in my area once an albatross showed up (im from central europe) so an albatross is a really rare sight
      it stayed on a lake where a lot of other birds nest and rest
      so many ppl rushed there to see this albatross that some birds there lost over 50 % of theyr nesting ground cause ppl would run around trampling eggs and chicks /nests into the ground without a care cause all they wantet is this "special" photo of this albatross
      but all these ppl where "Naturelovers and Birdlovers"

    • @yashwardhansingh4787
      @yashwardhansingh4787 Год назад +1

      Yeah, what if a T-rex is still out there somewhere on some undiscovered island.

  • @NickWrightDataYT
    @NickWrightDataYT Год назад +16

    1:04 "There are almost certainly species that we know of, that have gone extinct, and we haven't noticed"
    The idea that this could be true is shocking and depressing. Wow.

    • @thelakeman2538
      @thelakeman2538 Год назад +7

      There very well could be many plants or insects like that. Not like many people are looking for them so easy to slip through the cracks I suppose.

    • @daforkgaming3320
      @daforkgaming3320 Год назад +2

      Now we’ll never know unless we have miraculous evolution luck.
      I’m not even sure if that’s possible. Can a non-extinct animal evolve into an animal that used to be extinct or at least have an incredibly high amount of similarities?

    • @harubynspades
      @harubynspades Год назад

      That is not entirely true, we would have noticed them, certainly. Especially in continents like north America, Asia, Europe or Australia, there are a lot of scientists looking for them, most of the uncertainties are about undescribed species not described ones.

    • @daforkgaming3320
      @daforkgaming3320 Год назад

      @@harubynspades if the IUCN can’t make a flawless track of extinction, then of course there will be species we know that have gone extinct and we haven’t noticed.
      Scientists don’t monitor species 24/7.
      Of course, we’ll eventually notice, if not then humanity has effectively forgotten the existence of an animal

    • @laurentrobitaille2204
      @laurentrobitaille2204 Год назад +2

      @@daforkgaming3320 Not the same animal, but an animal with the same ecological niche, which may result in convergent evolution, as seen with ichthyosaurs, dolphins and sharks.

  • @Mario-ww4eu
    @Mario-ww4eu Год назад +32

    I love how so much of whether we declare a species extinct depends on how much hope we have in it still being alive 😂

  • @pierreabbat6157
    @pierreabbat6157 Год назад +26

    There are species, such as the Lilliputian violet, which have been found only once, despite repeated search. Close behind is the Niumbaha bat (the name means "rare"), which has been found only five times, in places widely spread across Africa. How can we tell if these are extinct?

    • @Snagabott
      @Snagabott Год назад +7

      If it has been found only once, how do we know that it's not just a one-off mutation of something more common?

    • @harubynspades
      @harubynspades Год назад +3

      The Niumbaha bat is listed as least concern because it was sighted quite recently, it is just rare by nature.

  • @Joe-3.
    @Joe-3. Год назад +10

    "This list of extinct species is incomplete, you can help by expanding it!"

  • @jonahhekmatyar
    @jonahhekmatyar Год назад +41

    We should start with mosquitoes

    • @4Nulla
      @4Nulla Год назад +10

      Nah, ticks. Let's start with ticks.

    • @ragnkja
      @ragnkja Год назад

      How about the plasmodium that causes malaria? That’s pretty high on my list of species that could go extinct without being missed.

    • @squidwardfromua
      @squidwardfromua Год назад

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    • @SioxerNikita
      @SioxerNikita Год назад +10

      Mosquitos is a keystone species, can't remove 'em without screwing both a ton of plants and animals.

    • @jonahhekmatyar
      @jonahhekmatyar Год назад +2

      @@SioxerNikita "mosquitos is a keystone species" 🤓. Yeah, I don't care

  • @georgecristiancripcia4819
    @georgecristiancripcia4819 Год назад +3

    One interesting fact:protecting the nature and animals it is a recent endevour,like from 1900 onwards with the major impuls after ww2.Until 1900 all the people,from common people to governement did not give a thought about protecting the nature.They killed,destroyed,poluate and consume everthing they could.Think only how the whales became a specie in danger.And this is as old as the human species.From neolithic peope to Rome and Greece,from India and China to South and North America civilizations,from Africa to Australia and Greenland,every civilization destroyed the nature without a care,worse then any modern day capitalist bc,compared to today,there was nobody who cared enough to try to stop them.
    So yes,we could do better but at least we try to do something compared to our ancestors.Nature park and reservations and protected animals are a modern idea.

  • @Xeverous
    @Xeverous Год назад +18

    If there are 3M-100M undiscovered species, how many new species are appearing? This is also extremely hard to estimate because we would have to be somehow sure that a given specie wasn't present in the past.

    • @CAMSLAYER13
      @CAMSLAYER13 9 месяцев назад +1

      Evolution doesn't happen fast enough, generally, for us to observe a new species forming in the time we've looked.

    • @bladdnun3016
      @bladdnun3016 5 месяцев назад

      @@CAMSLAYER13 It's also quite a gradual process.

  • @gnanay8555
    @gnanay8555 Год назад +9

    Is it not possible to determine probabilites for missing species to be extinct ? In this case, we can estimate the real number of extinct species, even if we don't know exactly which one is extinct or missing.

  • @CraftyF0X
    @CraftyF0X Год назад +9

    Boy that fish blew my mind, it's like finding a dinosaur alive.

    • @billcipher4368
      @billcipher4368 Год назад +2

      But now relegion use it as "proof" for god existing

    • @CraftyF0X
      @CraftyF0X Год назад +2

      @@billcipher4368 yea, like "god did it " ever explained anything -.-

    • @billcipher4368
      @billcipher4368 Год назад +2

      @@CraftyF0X also it somehow gives proof that evolution doesn't exists?
      I just hate relegion for being so aggrasive of spreading it's belief

    • @G.A.C_Preserve
      @G.A.C_Preserve Год назад

      @@billcipher4368 it's just their nonsense

    • @laurentrobitaille2204
      @laurentrobitaille2204 Год назад +1

      You mean aves, a clade within dinosauria?

  • @slametdinatadinata645
    @slametdinatadinata645 Год назад +4

    A commenter said that they have seen an ivory-billed woodpecker 1 minute ago, from what i can remember.

  • @diracio
    @diracio Год назад +8

    Entertaining and informative as ever, thank you!

  • @ellotheearthling
    @ellotheearthling Год назад +6

    The Blanco Blind Salamander hasn’t been seen for so long likely because it lives in a place that’s extremely hard to reach, in fact, there’s only a single confirmed sighting of them in their natural habitat

  • @WelcomeToDERPLAND
    @WelcomeToDERPLAND Год назад +4

    I mean, thats what happens when people who haven't scoured every single square inch of every part of the world to confirm such things are extinct so we just use hypothetical math to decide how many are going extinct every year.

  • @AZ222
    @AZ222 Год назад +1

    We should know more about the endangered species also. Like give people hope to protect them even if there is a slim chance u know

  • @Wonderhoy-er
    @Wonderhoy-er 7 месяцев назад +2

    I was expecting pun at the end, was highly disappointed… but I love the video regardless ❤😊

  • @JamesSmith-rb5lv
    @JamesSmith-rb5lv Год назад +2

    Great video but I'm confused. You make a point that there are so many species we have never even discovered yet so maybe the ones we haven't seen in years just need to be rediscovered.

  • @lovelasnow
    @lovelasnow Год назад +4

    Speaking of poor monitoring of species, I once looked up something I can across and it showed as being extinct, the Wikipedia listing has since updated but it still shows as possibly extinct, granted it is native to Jamaica and I’ve only seen it in mountainous areas

  • @HelenLannister
    @HelenLannister Год назад +2

    You could list them as “Missing in Action”…

  • @JohannesLothberg
    @JohannesLothberg Год назад +23

    I feel like these arguments only really allow for two rational outcomes. If we're worried about not being able to argue for continued protection of species we should just stop declaring _anything_ ever extinct, or we actually start declaring things we think are extinct as such until they aren't. The current system seems entirely unuseful.

    • @somebodyelse9130
      @somebodyelse9130 Год назад +5

      I don't understand your reasoning. You say that if we care most about preservation of potentially non-extinct yet missing species, then we should stop declaring any species extinct, not just MIA ones. How does that follow?
      What good would it do to not declare extinct a species where there's "no reasonable doubt that the last individual of a species has died"?

    • @JohannesLothberg
      @JohannesLothberg Год назад +3

      @@somebodyelse9130 "No reasonable doubt" is completely arbitrary though. If we've ended up finding species actually alive after 100 years of not finding any of them, when are there actually no reasonable doubts?
      My argument is that these restrictions mean that the labeling seems entirely arbitrary and that if it's entirely arbitrary then the labeling is actively unhelpful.

  • @packx3
    @packx3 Год назад +4

    I feel clickbaited by this title

  • @NickWrightDataYT
    @NickWrightDataYT Год назад +1

    So what I'm hearing is that there are a lot of animals that should be in another category, *Presumed Extinct...but they might not be!" lol

  • @LegoCookieDoggie
    @LegoCookieDoggie Год назад +4

    And then there's the fun concept of species re-evolving themselves to existence

  • @Usulcardo
    @Usulcardo Год назад +2

    Stop it with the coelacanth myth ! Modern coelacanths (genus Latimeria) are different from fossil genera of ancient coelacanths and were not even known to exist prior to their discovery in 1938. So saying they pulled out a live one as if it was the same genus, let alone the same species than the fossil ones is completely misleading. The truth is that the large group of coelacanthiformes fish (many ancient species) was only known from fossil material before they found out that two modern species of coelacanths still exist. These two species were never thought to have gone extinct because we simply didn't know their existence.

  • @ellytrabread
    @ellytrabread Год назад +1

    Oil miners seeing this: Way to go guys, lets shoot for 1000!

  • @liangyanzhang7379
    @liangyanzhang7379 7 месяцев назад

    There was a spit-turning dog and it worked in pairs to turn a spit to power something that cooks food. on sunday it gets a break and works as a foot warmer in the church. But eventually the species died out when machines were invented.

  • @VeryNormiee
    @VeryNormiee Год назад +2

    How do we know there are millions of possibly undiscovered species out there?

  • @CyberBeast66
    @CyberBeast66 Год назад +4

    What about some of those species where, as far as we know, there are only females or only males left? They're essentially 1 step behind extinction, so do researchers still hold back giving them the extinct status?

    • @IllidanS4
      @IllidanS4 Год назад +3

      Not all species need both, and not all species we thought needed both actually did.

    • @thelakeman2538
      @thelakeman2538 Год назад +5

      They're considered to be functionally extinct.

  • @adityasonawane7514
    @adityasonawane7514 Год назад +2

    Most probably, what matters is which species are extinct by bad human activities. Other than that, it is natural selection.

  • @Welverin
    @Welverin Год назад +4

    We have top men working on it right now.

  • @MarylandFarmer.
    @MarylandFarmer. 4 месяца назад

    There should be a tastiness scale to use to determine if something is extinct. If it tastes like chicken it isn't coming back

  • @Big-Chungus21
    @Big-Chungus21 Год назад +1

    How about a “presumed extinct” for animals not sighted in 50 years and there being reasonable evidence that this isnt just because theyre hard to spot?
    If this presumed extinct status persists for long enough maybe a species can then be declared extinct. The example of coelacanths also really doesnt work - its like emphasising the protection of habitats triceratops could live in because birds still exist. Sure, coelacanths still exist, but in many ways theyre nothing like the ancestral species, so trying to protect them using methods based off of the niches their ancestors filled wouldnt help.

  • @patrickblanchette4337
    @patrickblanchette4337 Год назад +5

    1:23 I remember back in college a professor told us that when aliens ask us how many species that are on Earth our answer will be like, “we don’t know & we will never know because we wiped so many out”.

  • @tjtheknowledgeseeker7878
    @tjtheknowledgeseeker7878 Год назад +3

    Dont think you can hide a Vulpix, Ekans, and Paras in the mystery species!

  • @deepashtray5605
    @deepashtray5605 Год назад

    "... when the last individual of a race of living beings breathes no more, another heaven and another earth must pass before such a one can be again."
    ~William Beebe

  • @ethribin4188
    @ethribin4188 5 месяцев назад +1

    On the other hand, we don't need to kedp track of all extinct species.
    Nor should we prevent all extinctions.
    We just have to keep our impact, that causes extinctions, to a minimum.

  • @MozartTheGOAT
    @MozartTheGOAT Год назад +1

    Whole world worrying about losing biodiversity and MinuteEarth is here making the bold claims in their video titles

  • @TreeGGwi
    @TreeGGwi Год назад +1

    Considering that supposedly 150 animals goes extinct every day... yeh

  • @LavenderLushLuxury
    @LavenderLushLuxury Год назад +1

    Makes me so sad, Honestly.... 💔💔💔

  • @priyanshubangarwa4316
    @priyanshubangarwa4316 Год назад +1

    There are almost 8.4 million species of life on earth according to the Ancient Rishis of Bharat,

  • @Miscellaneous-jtk
    @Miscellaneous-jtk Год назад +2

    Who's that Pokemon.......time 1:10

  • @milodautkitteh
    @milodautkitteh Год назад +1

    So my question is, how did they prove that those 900 and so animals and plants are extinct beyond a reasonable doubt?

  • @hughobyrne2588
    @hughobyrne2588 Год назад +1

    CORRECTIONS: When looking at the bottom of a stamp, the image you see is a *reflection* of the image that gets stamped. To stamp the word 'EXTINCT", what you'd see on the bottom of the stamp is the word, reversed.
    Wait, am I in the right place? Is this... where am I?

    • @PurpleShift42
      @PurpleShift42 Год назад +1

      They get this right at 0:26 but not in the thumbnail image lmao

    • @jackic23
      @jackic23 Год назад +1

      No worries, we're actually looking at the reflection of the stamping taken from a mirror

    • @hughobyrne2588
      @hughobyrne2588 Год назад

      @@jackic23 Masterclass response, there. Bravo.

  • @samo8178
    @samo8178 Год назад +1

    Let's join the war on Extinction, on the side of Extinction

  • @WyvernLord11th
    @WyvernLord11th Год назад +1

    Things for sure that I want them to be extincts: Roaches, Flies, Mosquitoes, and pretty much any other abomination that god brought upon this world LOL, like seriously if anyone can even came up with even one proper reason why those critters should even exists now I'm gonna cried

  • @that_one_guy2426
    @that_one_guy2426 Год назад +3

    This is kinda sad 😢

  • @markokostelac7282
    @markokostelac7282 Год назад

    And the precambrian death masks 0:47

  • @Mohojo
    @Mohojo Год назад +2

    I grew up in the green swamp of Florida. I am pretty sure I have seen that woodpecker about decade ago.

    • @orangecat504
      @orangecat504 Год назад +2

      Yeah that’s why disagree with Emily’s take here as many extinct creatures still have numerous reported sightings.

    • @americanmapper2445
      @americanmapper2445 Год назад +2

      ​@@orangecat504non confirmed tho

    • @orangecat504
      @orangecat504 Год назад

      @@americanmapper2445 yes I would say thiers a difference between reported and official sightings.

  • @captainpalegg2860
    @captainpalegg2860 Год назад

    that’s not where i was expecting this video to go. i was picturing more like “here are the species we need to eradicate for the good of the environment.”
    … which sounds contradictory, if not downright villainous, now that i type it out.

  • @romella_karmey
    @romella_karmey Год назад +1

    When will humans extinct? 😊

  • @dariusjacobi4573
    @dariusjacobi4573 Год назад

    And what is necessary to categorize a species as extinct?

  • @this_name_is_taken
    @this_name_is_taken Год назад +1

    Love how the unknown species silhouettes have multiple pokemons in it.

  • @TheLobsterCopter5000
    @TheLobsterCopter5000 5 месяцев назад +1

    I mean, the anopheles mosquito should be imo

  • @itsaaronlolz
    @itsaaronlolz Год назад

    they can’t find a submarine where they know they sent it. we’re not as smart as we think we are. hopefully daddy AI will save us cause we dumb asf 😂

    • @PurpleShift42
      @PurpleShift42 Год назад +2

      well, the problem is we don't know where they sent it precisely - the ocean is big and a sub is tiny by comparison
      also "daddy AI" still has to search every likely cube inch of the ocean just like the rest of us meatware intelligences

  • @ImmortalAbsol
    @ImmortalAbsol Год назад +1

    So with the conclusion un mind, how did they reach the conclusion that the ones currently classic extinct should be so?

    • @theperfectmix2
      @theperfectmix2 Год назад +2

      “Listed as Extinct because it has not been recorded since 1996, and extensive searches in the appropriate habitat, during the appropriate season within the known range, have failed to locate this species. Its disappearance has been attributed, at least in part, to chytridiomycosis-related declines.” Justification for the extinction of the Chiriqui Harlequin Frog.

  • @RarelyAChump
    @RarelyAChump Год назад

    Just make a new label that means "appears to be extinct".
    We're never going to know if something is objectively extinct regardless of what we label it.

  • @DreadEnder
    @DreadEnder Год назад

    The number of potential species on earth is a massive overestimate. The largest possible number is likely around 5,000,000

  • @tann_man
    @tann_man Год назад

    I was hoping to watch a video about how our preservation efforts are contrary to nature. Without our artificial help many more SHOULD be extinct. Millions of animal species have gone extinct before humans. Its weird we put so much effort into trying to prevent inevitable processes.

  • @catnip5315
    @catnip5315 Год назад +1

    Let the mosquitoes burn in hell.

  • @ethribin4188
    @ethribin4188 5 месяцев назад

    As the history of life showed, species extinction isnt actually a bad thing.
    Its the norm.
    Just like death.
    The important part is that extinctions dont happen in to rapid a pattern.
    Otherwise it will drag the entire system, that both nature and we humans rely on, down.
    And while life will survive,
    We humans might not.
    So we have invested interest in keeping nature stable.
    Not frozen, not regressing or removed.
    But stable.

  • @TySmithHerpingVA
    @TySmithHerpingVA 5 месяцев назад

    The issue is when actually Extinct organisms pull funds away from Critically Endangered Species, like what we have seen with the Ivory-billed Woodpecker.

  • @0XBlondie96X0
    @0XBlondie96X0 Год назад

    At first i thought that by "more species should be extinct" you were saying that with all the catastrophic events that occured in Earth's past coupled with all the damage that human intervention has done today, way more species have managed to survive till today than one would think

  • @eljanrimsa5843
    @eljanrimsa5843 5 месяцев назад

    1:42 "The IUCN only declares a species extinct when there's no reasonable doubt that the last individual of the species has died."
    That's nonsense. That would be a totally impractical standard. There's always the possibility that an individual or population of the species had been overlooked and will be found later.
    The IUCN is aware of this possibility and uses a different approach when to declare a species extinct. If a species hasn't been sighted in a certain timespan that corresponds with the generation length of the species, and a scientific expedition has been carried out looking for this species in the location where it most likely could have survived, and this expedition finds no evidence, then the species is declared extinct.

  • @dstarfire42
    @dstarfire42 11 месяцев назад

    look at the silhouettes at 1:10 ... I'm pretty sure Pikachu is NOT extinct.

  • @wetburntbagel
    @wetburntbagel 5 месяцев назад

    We should call most “extinct” animals missing unless it is very old and very dead like synapsids and hadrosaurs

  • @lordgarion514
    @lordgarion514 2 месяца назад

    All the living things in an area are intertwined with each other. They all have a job to do, so to speak. So if a species numbers have been reduced down so low that we can't even find one, they most definitely are not doing their job, and all things considered, almost none will ever be able to recover. Both the weather and the climate are going to get worse, and humans are only increasing in numbers, so no matter what the cause, if what's happened so far has made them invisible to us, it is not in our best interest to keep spending money trying to save them.
    The entire world is pushing its money pretty much to its limit now, and with things getting worse, we're going to need a lot more money to be spent. Funds are limited unfortunately. So priority must be made.

  • @thegreygoblin5165
    @thegreygoblin5165 Год назад +1

    Mosquitos should be extinct, no question. End then all

    • @quakeknight9680
      @quakeknight9680 Год назад +1

      Just blood suckers. A lot of them are usefull.

  • @YoungGandalf2325
    @YoungGandalf2325 Год назад +4

    I will never have the opportunity to bite into a freshly grilled Tasmanian Tiger burger. 😢

    • @PurpleShift42
      @PurpleShift42 Год назад

      unless they figure out how to clone one lmao

  • @Stirling-Shade
    @Stirling-Shade 5 месяцев назад

    Sum of the extinct species probably aren't technically extinct. Animals go through rapid evolution all the time. The animals appearance we knew is extinct, but not the animal itself.

  • @triadwarfare
    @triadwarfare Год назад

    Hot take: some species deserve to go extinct, like koalas, pandas, and sloths. We're just artificially keeping them alive when evolution backed them to a corner where they're regressing rather than adapting to new environments.

  • @missnaomi613
    @missnaomi613 Год назад

    Thank you for another informative video!
    Little Owl! 😍
    Because it's Pride month... How about a video about some of the MANY species, other than humans, that have been observed to be gay or can switch sexes? 🏳‍🌈🏳‍⚧

  • @LordHakai
    @LordHakai Год назад

    How did this fish not evolve into another fish after 240 million years?
    Can someone explain this to me in simple english?

  • @zagreus5773
    @zagreus5773 2 месяца назад

    By that logic only large, land dwelling mammals can go extinct. For everything else we can never be certain if there aren't somewhere some individuals surviving.

  • @AZACKAL
    @AZACKAL Год назад

    First 8 seconds of video. What???? Get the nukes ready i guess 😆 😆 😆 😆
    Actually watches video ahh okay that makes sense now

  • @guycxz
    @guycxz Год назад

    00:05
    This video has been brought to you by The Black Templars and the Ordo Astartes at large, on behalf of the Imperium of Man.

  • @brianforrest-p4p
    @brianforrest-p4p 8 месяцев назад

    I'm a little late to this, but if a selacamp hasn't been seen for millions of years and it was presumed to be extinct, but was really alive still how does ICUN determine with no shred of a doubt that a species is extinct?

  • @petersmythe6462
    @petersmythe6462 Год назад

    Which of those 902 confirmed recently extinct species would make the best pet?

  • @3MB3Rx134
    @3MB3Rx134 7 месяцев назад

    Fun fact: if mosquitoes went extinct there would be little to no negative effects on the ecosystem

  • @firstcynic92
    @firstcynic92 Год назад

    1:10. FYI, pokemon are not real.
    2:33. Coelacanth isn't a species. Its an order of fish with at least 90 species in the fossil record and 2 species alive today.

  • @stellart5664
    @stellart5664 Год назад +7

    it's funny that we're too scared to list species that haven't been seen in almost 100 years as extinct. I would think that it would be better to have a previously thought to be extinct species turn out to be not extinct instead of just labeling it as missing. I do understand for conversational reasons why they would keep a species classified in a way that protects its natural habitat. fascinating stuff!

  • @wintersnowcloud
    @wintersnowcloud Год назад

    Naw, more things should be extinct...
    for reference, I would also endorse an endless winter... I don't like the other seasons.

  • @isaiasabinadisosagarcia936
    @isaiasabinadisosagarcia936 4 месяца назад

    Then thank you, IUCN, for not allowing for more environmental regulations to be canceled

  • @Anakinlawrence0
    @Anakinlawrence0 Год назад

    Maybe that shouldn’t be the only reason we’re keeping the planet somewhat clean it shouldn’t be just because oh this animal might be alive so it’s still the right thing