Armagh train collision 130 years later

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  • Опубликовано: 26 дек 2024

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  • @crippledcrusader1321
    @crippledcrusader1321 5 лет назад +486

    I believe the guy who denied the request for a second engine is at complete fault for this.

    • @sockshandle
      @sockshandle 5 лет назад +58

      I believe the guy who forced the driver to take the train is at fault I mean the driver said that the train was overweight for his engine

    • @crippledcrusader1321
      @crippledcrusader1321 5 лет назад +16

      fred white right.

    • @idknameformyselfbruh4493
      @idknameformyselfbruh4493 5 лет назад +12

      F for all that die

    • @Roc-Righteous
      @Roc-Righteous 5 лет назад +9

      Oh hell, you know he is.

    • @GiordanDiodato
      @GiordanDiodato 5 лет назад +12

      Another fault was the lax regulations at the time.

  • @kelvinproductions8073
    @kelvinproductions8073 5 лет назад +198

    Oh my god...This is dark. If the stupid stationmaster had let a back engine onto the train, this wouldn't had happen. Bless all of those children on the train.

    • @thunderz2483
      @thunderz2483 4 года назад +8

      Exactly why is the crew going to jail for man slaughter they are innocent

    • @thunderz2483
      @thunderz2483 4 года назад

      Although the children could walk

    • @jackhewitt7902
      @jackhewitt7902 4 года назад +4

      Thunder z because they still took the train knowing the single locomotive wasn’t enough yes the station master was also at fault as well but there’s many other factors that caused the accident.

    • @sockshandle
      @sockshandle 4 года назад +7

      @@jackhewitt7902 in those days you either did your job or you were fired and the railway was one of the better paying jobs once your a driver so...

    • @A.i.r_K
      @A.i.r_K 4 года назад

      A back engine of what type. Even a tank engine. Anything that can pull its own weight.

  • @ClearTrackSpeed
    @ClearTrackSpeed 5 лет назад +61

    Ever since I’ve seen why trains crash back in 2000, the Armagh disaster has always held a place in my mind. Being part Irish myself, The children of the village have held a place in my heart too; despite passing on 130 years ago. Thank you so much for sharing this dark piece of railroad history.

  • @ftgphantom621
    @ftgphantom621 5 лет назад +168

    A 'Treat'
    Well that didn't work out

    • @harrisonofcolorado8886
      @harrisonofcolorado8886 5 лет назад +12

      Nope, a bunch of kids died.

    • @JahDNicest
      @JahDNicest 5 лет назад +12

      A treat of the devil's cookies

    • @mandyplodek639
      @mandyplodek639 5 лет назад +4

      Hey, back then it was a miracle if the train didn’t crash or something with their train schedules.

    • @jamesfracasse8178
      @jamesfracasse8178 5 лет назад +2

      Rumor has it Captain Smith ran it into a dirt bank

    • @jamesfracasse8178
      @jamesfracasse8178 5 лет назад +1

      @@madkirk7431 engineering marvel for the time and era

  • @harrisonofcolorado8886
    @harrisonofcolorado8886 5 лет назад +114

    Geez this really is a dark accident!

    • @darioguerrero2580
      @darioguerrero2580 5 лет назад +2

      OptimalOptimus50 exactly

    • @GiordanDiodato
      @GiordanDiodato 5 лет назад +2

      at the time, it was the worst rail accident in Europe and remains the worst rail accident in Ireland.

    • @minigundozer14
      @minigundozer14 4 года назад +1

      no.... even worse THE UFA TRAIN ACCIDENT MURDERED 575 PEOPLE
      but not even compared to... the queen of the sea

    • @superalsters3484
      @superalsters3484 4 года назад +1

      @@minigundozer14 what happened the "queen of the sea" I mean?

    • @Blo_sum_bees
      @Blo_sum_bees 4 года назад +1

      Yes it is there are more dark ones on his channel that I’ve seen

  • @iliketrains839
    @iliketrains839 5 лет назад +157

    You should do the November 30th, 2007 Chicago train collision where an Amtrak train rear ended a Norfolk Southern train

    • @A.i.r_K
      @A.i.r_K 4 года назад +1

      Unless there's a massive speed difference, if you rear rear ended a moving vehicle of all types, you can't get too hurt. The vehicle infront will take away some momentum.

    • @riograndeheritageunit-abandone
      @riograndeheritageunit-abandone 4 года назад +11

      Heres a funny meme of the crash
      NS train: just a normal day
      Amtrak: WHOOO
      NS train: do i hear a amtrak train?
      Amtrak: AHHHHHHHHH
      Amtrak: *puts on emergency breaks*
      NS train: well it is a amtrak train
      Amtrak: *LOUD CRASH SOUND*
      NS train: *hears train crash*
      NS train: and the amtrak train just rear ended me great!
      Amtrak: *CRYING LOUDLY IN PAIN*

    • @veniciocaldas1514
      @veniciocaldas1514 3 года назад +4

      3 2 1 go meme norfolk southern NS

    • @JohnFitzgeraldKennedy-
      @JohnFitzgeraldKennedy- 3 года назад +4

      @MARKIBEAN uh not Casey Jones that was 1869

    • @kms1099
      @kms1099 3 года назад +2

      I know this wreck no one died but the p42 was damaged so badly that it was scraped

  • @dannyh.s.1936
    @dannyh.s.1936 5 лет назад +174

    (Saw the screenshot)
    Oh.
    My.
    Sweet.
    God.

  • @modelking1235
    @modelking1235 4 года назад +10

    I'm from northern Ireland can't believe you pronounced armagh right, love your videos

  • @lindajones7852
    @lindajones7852 3 года назад +21

    Rest in peace all the lost souls. Such a tragedy...so many children.

  • @casperreininga3253
    @casperreininga3253 5 лет назад +102

    Could you maybe Do a video on the forgotten but second deadliest train crash ever, The Saint-Michel-sur-Maurienne derailment?

  • @Dstagz
    @Dstagz 5 лет назад +61

    Keep up the great work man! Always love hearing new content

    • @Thunderbolt_1000_Siren
      @Thunderbolt_1000_Siren  5 лет назад +10

      Glad you enjoy them.

    • @big14bitch40
      @big14bitch40 4 года назад +1

      They really are enjoyable mini docuseries or documentaries.
      Wish a lot of other topics and many other life's works were optional of being a normal length documentary or having some to be able to get a hold of or see a short documentary version. If the short is interesting then you'd flip over to the longer version... Haha. It sounds simple... But I'm sure the reality is not.
      Have a good day to you all. Nice that we enjoy these together. Thank you Thunderbolt 1000 Siren for this and other finely produced documentaries.

    • @HolleyWindle
      @HolleyWindle 9 месяцев назад

      @@Thunderbolt_1000_Siren I know when you can add to your series: the Michigan car & train chase 1 year ago: a mother and father were taking their daughter and son home from school all of the sudden a runaway train was approaching the railroad crossing that the families car was crossing the car skidded off the tracks just in time , later a drunk person was driving a Peterbilt boxcab truck and skidded out of the way and fell into a ditch

  • @Zenfox125
    @Zenfox125 5 лет назад +90

    Little fact after this crash breaks were changed so they was locked on unless you had vacuum.

    • @GiordanDiodato
      @GiordanDiodato 5 лет назад +4

      that kind of technology had actually been invented prior to this accident, but it wasn't required at the time.

    • @florjanbrudar692
      @florjanbrudar692 4 года назад +2

      Zenfox Brakes, were

    • @finndahuman57
      @finndahuman57 4 года назад +1

      I think its also the reason most coaches today are Steel bodies although a ton of crashes caused that to be standard

    • @Kasey1776
      @Kasey1776 4 года назад +1

      A Very Average Train, the wood splinters and shatters during an accident because of these giant pieces of metal wham into them at like 90-100 MPH

    • @Shadowwand
      @Shadowwand 4 года назад +1

      Nearly 3 decades prior.
      But regulations were not requirred until accidents like this forced legislators to impose regulations on businesses.
      Remember that every time businesses complain about rules.
      Most of them were written with blood.

  • @jackhewitt7902
    @jackhewitt7902 4 года назад +29

    As a Brit I find the stories closer to home very saddening. But this one genuinely made me tear up this is truly tragic.

    • @amvaporean4522
      @amvaporean4522 Год назад

      damn
      i though brits hate the irish?

    • @jackhewitt7902
      @jackhewitt7902 Год назад

      @@amvaporean4522 no the British and the Irish seem to be on pretty good terms these days.
      For me personally I have no hate for the Irish after all I'm 25% Irish and I have some Irish relatives

  • @ferretocious
    @ferretocious 3 месяца назад +4

    I recently found out one of my grand uncles, William Whitworth Holland, died in this disaster at 18 years old.
    What is creepy is that his infant brother, my grandfather, was also on the train. Had he died I would not exist.

  • @amtrakprime1876
    @amtrakprime1876 3 года назад +11

    It's so heartbreaking to see a fatal crash like that in my life thunderbolt

  • @bluebellsfan8704
    @bluebellsfan8704 4 года назад +23

    I feel like the station master that said the driver couldn't get a other engine to help should have been locked up for 10 years (at most)

  • @griffinrails
    @griffinrails 5 лет назад +46

    Mrs Frizzle, I would like to request that this school charter journey shall be acted out as usually routine, as in similar to other field trips.

  • @bridgetbruce9209
    @bridgetbruce9209 5 лет назад +182

    That one person who disliked the video
    When you're reading this it probably has more dislikes

    • @griffinrails
      @griffinrails 5 лет назад +4

      nah fam

    • @92_orsomething
      @92_orsomething 5 лет назад +4

      I wanna know who dislikes this

    • @Optimaloptimus
      @Optimaloptimus 5 лет назад +2

      19 dislikes now.

    • @Nerd-jq6er
      @Nerd-jq6er 5 лет назад +2

      20 dislikes

    • @simongleaden2864
      @simongleaden2864 5 лет назад +1

      I disliked it because of the poor grammar of the narrative. 8:44 "...would never have took place". This should be "...would never have taken place."

  • @moisesm9602
    @moisesm9602 5 лет назад +38

    That got dark fast

  • @alexk384
    @alexk384 5 лет назад +6

    I’ve seen all of your documentaries, Thunderbolt, including the Ufa wreck. That one really touched me cause my dad was a soldier in Russia at the time. 😞 Very good vid work though!

  • @FriskDreemurrOfBiggCityPort
    @FriskDreemurrOfBiggCityPort 2 года назад +3

    My great great grandmother was born in 1897 and died at the age of 100. My great grandmother was born in 1932 and is 90 years old.

  • @6MT_chriiis
    @6MT_chriiis 5 лет назад +6

    I have a suggestion for the next short documentary, In like 2005 (I think) there was a level crossing accident in which involved a passenger train and a tractor pulling a trailer full of people. If you cant do that accident, then can you possibly do the 2004 Sri Lanka train wreck? I would like to see one of them. Good video too👍

  • @fgajkl2515
    @fgajkl2515 5 лет назад +11

    my great uncle used to work for the CPR one day back in the '70s his engine went past a wreck very slowly then his train had to stop as the wreck blocked the tracks and while he and his buddy waited he took some flannel and 6 boxes of whiskey my grandpa had free whiskey for years and to this day we still have that giant roll of flannel just sitting there never used.

  • @joelharris1335
    @joelharris1335 4 года назад +15

    However, the death toll was overtaken by the 1952 Harrow & Wealdstone disaster which claimed 112 lives

    • @westinbridges7321
      @westinbridges7321 Год назад +1

      It has since become the 4th worst rail accident in all of Britain's railways. In 3rd, Lewisham. In 2nd, Harrow and Wealdstone. In 1st, Quintinshill. The accidents that had less deaths than this are the Tay Bridge disaster (5th place) and the Abergele rail disaster (6th place).

  • @zeppelinfreakhayes5780
    @zeppelinfreakhayes5780 5 лет назад +19

    Love to see some Pennsylvania Railroad and New York Central Wrecks

  • @laurah4130
    @laurah4130 4 года назад +2

    I'm such a fan of your work. I enjoy your documentaries more than those on television. Speaking to this one in particular it always astounds me how little big business valued human beings!

  • @atsfevan0242
    @atsfevan0242 4 года назад +11

    Today marks the 131st anniversary of this collision in Ireland and may all 80 people who lost their lives Rest In Peace.

  • @jacksalvin364
    @jacksalvin364 5 лет назад +7

    On June 12th, 1889, 2 passenger trains collided Rear end at 10:45 a.m. before noon, 80 were killed in the rear end collision.

    • @florjanbrudar692
      @florjanbrudar692 3 года назад +1

      You're almost saying they both collided rear first

  • @persephoneblack888
    @persephoneblack888 4 года назад +2

    As a kiddo I got to go on a wooden tourist train. It was in New Hampshire, and it traveled through several areas. It was an open air sort of train, no glass windows on the passenger cars and it moved very, very slowly. I still have pictures (I was about 6 at the time). I also got to go to the train museum, and I still have postcards from it. Those wooden train cabins are very cool, but definitely can't hold up to collisions. That train ride through part of NH really made me love trains. It even had an old locomotive, similar to the one in this video.

  • @MattChaffe
    @MattChaffe 5 лет назад +2

    It always sucks when an incident occurs just because people are either stubborn to go out of their way to make something happen, like getting a second locomotive in this case, or are just careless, like having only one of the handbrakes engaged on a single car. I guess the saying is, you learn from mistakes, and that's very true as modern railroading is much safer, but it's sad to think that this incident had to happen for that to all be in place. Rather have seen these advancements due to a wreck that didn't have fatalities, or just smart people from the start always improving technology. Great video as always! I had never heard of this incident until now!

    • @iiLuxis
      @iiLuxis 5 лет назад

      Matt Chaffe hi

  • @williamcoffey3189
    @williamcoffey3189 4 года назад +7

    I would LOVE to hear someone talk about the New Market train wreck that happend not far from where I live .
    New Market , Tennessee .

  • @bluehighlander0256
    @bluehighlander0256 4 года назад +8

    Sometimes we have to learn the hard way in order to see the error in our ways. Armagh is a good example

  • @engineerpat5290
    @engineerpat5290 5 лет назад +4

    Oh my! This was a very dark day in 19th century railroading. GREAT DOCUMENTARY!!!!!

    • @connormclernon26
      @connormclernon26 5 лет назад +1

      That’s what they get for overloading the train

    • @AutismTakesOn
      @AutismTakesOn 5 лет назад +1

      @@connormclernon26 I don't think the children deserved it, though. Do you?

    • @connormclernon26
      @connormclernon26 5 лет назад +1

      Autism Takes On no, the fault lies with the people in charge of loading the train.

    • @AutismTakesOn
      @AutismTakesOn 5 лет назад +1

      @@connormclernon26 actually, multiple people were at fault. GNR as a whole was at fault. The stationmaster was also at fault. The train also should at the very least had a banker at the rear, maybe the engine from the 10:35. Disasters are all a chain of events. There never is just one cause or one person behind it.

  • @rustyshackleford5166
    @rustyshackleford5166 4 года назад +3

    This is horrible. That engineer asked for a second engin or a larger one and was denied. The guy who denied that engineer different circumstances should have been held fully responsible.

  • @Ilikebakconn2
    @Ilikebakconn2 5 лет назад +30

    I left the video I was watching to watch this 32 minutes after upload. The engine looks like Thomas and the tender looks like a fright train,and the coach’s look like Annie and Clarabelle.
    Edit the name of train driver even is Thomas.

    • @nerdstop5025
      @nerdstop5025 5 лет назад +3

      The train at 1:47 looks like Donald and/or Douglas!!

    • @Ilikebakconn2
      @Ilikebakconn2 5 лет назад +2

      Jump Man 2019 true

    • @darioguerrero2580
      @darioguerrero2580 5 лет назад +3

      The engine at 10:44 definitely looks like Emily. They should have put that engine to take that passenger train instead of a small engine due to it not being strong enough to make the steep climb

    • @StaxRail
      @StaxRail 5 лет назад +2

      @@darioguerrero2580 thats because it is what Emily is based off. However, these were not used in any part of Ireland, instead being used on the English GNR, not the GNR(I)

    • @darioguerrero2580
      @darioguerrero2580 5 лет назад +4

      clanline35028 makes sense. Thank you

  • @holyshadow1289
    @holyshadow1289 5 лет назад +5

    Great documentary!

  • @stan5990
    @stan5990 2 года назад +3

    A couple of points. The locomotive of the second train was number 9, and was not scrapped as it was barely damaged in the accident. It was finally broken up in 1916. The reason why the excursion train failed could not be conclusively extablished. As part of the investigation, locomotive 86 was connected to the surviving coaches and identical substitute coaches for the destroyed ones were attached to the back of the train which was then loaded with weights. The train made the trip up the gradient without any problems, and the suggestion was made that someone in the brake van which was filled with children had played with the brakes causing the train to stall. Obviously the truth will never be known now.

  • @davefaddel6761
    @davefaddel6761 5 лет назад +2

    I love your productions, keep it up.

  • @mixazizu
    @mixazizu 5 лет назад +27

    10:37 Emily

  • @weaselworm8681
    @weaselworm8681 4 года назад +1

    Thanks for doing these.

  • @westinbridges7321
    @westinbridges7321 3 года назад +5

    May these children Rest In Peace

  • @KojiGaming
    @KojiGaming 5 лет назад +2

    Been binge-watching all of your documentaries. Subscribed. Absolutely love your work, shame I didn't find you before now! The first one I watched was the Bayou wreck, since I'm from L.A I was looking into it. You did such a great job I went straight down the rabbit hole! Thanks for making these, bud.

  • @madkirk7431
    @madkirk7431 4 года назад +5

    131 years later, this is still a bad wreck

  • @SillyAxolotl69
    @SillyAxolotl69 3 года назад +2

    the fact that this was 132 years ago (in 2021) is amazing
    Edit: 4:24 IS THAT SIR TOPHAT FRUM THOMAS THE TANK'N DANK'N!?!?!?!?

  • @Jetthehawk1994
    @Jetthehawk1994 5 лет назад +3

    If any GNRI enthusiasts are reading this, can you please identify the classes of the locomotives on the two trains involved?

  • @aderpyturt
    @aderpyturt 4 года назад +3

    Thomas and Henry left Sodor to go and work as a driver and fireman...And...I think this inspired the time when James' trucks couplings snaped , rolled down the hill,but without the crash...

  • @Dboi9341
    @Dboi9341 4 года назад +3

    Intro music is from call of duty world at war . In the first Russian mission

  • @justin97410
    @justin97410 5 лет назад +1

    Excellent work as always

  • @bditman4740
    @bditman4740 5 лет назад +10

    Thunderbolt you should do a documentary on the Hoboken incident wen the anniversary comes up

  • @jeremyasher297
    @jeremyasher297 5 лет назад +7

    locomotive 86 : COME BACK
    train cars : ON ON FASTER FASTER
    10:35 train : STOP STOP STOOOOOOOOOOOOP
    ugh

  • @cows_cowsandcows
    @cows_cowsandcows 5 лет назад +15

    i think I solved it,it’s all the station master’s fault,he should’ve agreed to use 2 engines.

    • @cows_cowsandcows
      @cows_cowsandcows 5 лет назад +1

      John Blessing that’s what I meant,but at that time I forgot the shed master.

    • @beverlyarcher3744
      @beverlyarcher3744 5 лет назад +1

      Engineer could have said no and refused to move that train

    • @Thunderbolt_1000_Siren
      @Thunderbolt_1000_Siren  5 лет назад +11

      It was a combination of errors from no signal system to alert of the stalled train, the inadequate power on the excursion, insufficient braking power and system, and bad management.

    • @AutismTakesOn
      @AutismTakesOn 5 лет назад +2

      Does the stationmaster even have the authority to send another engine, though?

  • @courtemanche437
    @courtemanche437 5 лет назад +2

    There's a typo at 0:52, "disaster" doesn't have the second S.

  • @drummachine434
    @drummachine434 5 лет назад +6

    Looks like you also watched the "Why trains crash" documentary?

  • @MK-rr7cg
    @MK-rr7cg 5 лет назад +1

    This channel slowly makes me not want to ride on trains anymore.

  • @WilliamKearns5393
    @WilliamKearns5393 Год назад +4

    R.I.P Isbole Bennett, 1924-2014.

  • @AMCguy
    @AMCguy 5 лет назад +2

    Love this series so much!

  • @omar.w939
    @omar.w939 5 лет назад +13

    Can you do the 1991 union square subway crash in the near future

  • @liamcarey560
    @liamcarey560 5 месяцев назад +1

    Such a tragic train wreck one of the worst train wrecks in railway history

  • @nerdstop5025
    @nerdstop5025 5 лет назад +31

    I wonder when the first recording of a train accident was

    • @Thunderbolt_1000_Siren
      @Thunderbolt_1000_Siren  5 лет назад +13

      Correct. That was when we learned our 1st lesson on trains which was "INSTALL BRAKES" As Rocket had no brakes and could only stop if steam was shut.

    • @virginiarailfannoah5415
      @virginiarailfannoah5415 5 лет назад +2

      Are ya gonna make a documentary about that, @@Thunderbolt_1000_Siren?

    • @germansteamlocomotive
      @germansteamlocomotive 5 лет назад +4

      People say that rockets mishap was the first, but nope, IT WASN'T! The first rail accident happened in 1650, where 2 boy where run over by a coal truck. Before you ask, nope, nether of them lived to tell another tale.

    • @sockshandle
      @sockshandle 4 года назад +1

      @@germansteamlocomotive um I do believe they meant steam hauled accidents (not gravity train accidents

    • @A.i.r_K
      @A.i.r_K 4 года назад +1

      @@Thunderbolt_1000_Siren wait. The Stephenson's rocket doesn't have a brake?

  • @ABMP4D3
    @ABMP4D3 4 года назад +1

    Awesome channel and videos, very well put together, have you ever heard of the East Thompson CT, train wreck of December 4th, 1891, only 4 train wreck in Americas history on the former New York New England Railroad? Ive been to the site, not even a memorial or mention of it.

  • @gurtison6883
    @gurtison6883 4 года назад +7

    4:30 sounds like something out of a TTTE episode

  • @douglasrosiefan10
    @douglasrosiefan10 5 лет назад +1

    Nice documentary, I never knew that there was such a terrible accident that happened a long time ago but nevertheless I'm glad that I could help out

  • @signbear999
    @signbear999 4 года назад +10

    Engineer's name is Thomas?
    Fireman's name is Henry?
    Happened in the UK?
    Coaches look like Annie and Clarabel?
    Coincidence?
    I think so.

  • @AutismTakesOn
    @AutismTakesOn 5 лет назад +2

    I highly suggest the 2004 Sri Lanka tsunami disaster, anniversary Dec. 26. There were 1,700+ deaths, making it more tragic than Armagh or Ufa.

  • @atsfevan0242
    @atsfevan0242 3 года назад +3

    Today marks the 132nd anniversary of this tragic collision disaster and hopefully something like this will never happen again.

  • @jmm2000
    @jmm2000 5 лет назад +2

    Can you do the accident called the Quintinshill disaster? In Scotland, a troop train collided head-on with a local commuter train at a junction signal tower box and moments later a passenger express train plowed into the wreckage. About 227 people died, including many soldiers on the troop train. It was later discovered that the signalmen operating the tower had forgotten about the commuter train, even though it was parked in front of them, and allowed the trains into their section.

  • @lyndale566powell6
    @lyndale566powell6 5 лет назад +5

    2:31 that piece of metal looks like a thumbs up

  • @davidbergeron3071
    @davidbergeron3071 5 лет назад +2

    Love the new video’s keep it up

  • @spring626
    @spring626 4 года назад +4

    10:37 didn't expect to find my favorite stirling locomotive on this video

    • @saltbombcreations8336
      @saltbombcreations8336 3 года назад

      Emily ran away from home after the Abbots Ripton rail incident were she found herself on the Island of Sodor and met 3 box tank engines named Clive, Neil, and Mathew and Emily became the Sodor & Mainland Railway’s #4, fast foreword 20 years later Emily’s sister Emmy found her and Emily said goodbye to her friends and returned to the GNR.

    • @saltbombcreations8336
      @saltbombcreations8336 3 года назад

      Emily wasn’t given extended hand rails so people would confuse her for her sister, until 2019

  • @adge1347
    @adge1347 4 года назад +2

    I remember watching this reenactment long time ago on a show. I always remembered the scenes but couldn’t remember the name of disaster.

  • @Sp1deyJay
    @Sp1deyJay 5 лет назад +4

    You should do a documentary on a train crash in Florida that happened in 2016 in Citra Florida where 2 CSX trains had a head on collision

    • @chaosdemonwolf1
      @chaosdemonwolf1 5 лет назад

      It's been done............ ruclips.net/video/nUaFW2rLRa0/видео.html

    • @chaosdemonwolf1
      @chaosdemonwolf1 5 лет назад

      @TrucksNTracks Good point

  • @davidgromer8284
    @davidgromer8284 Год назад +1

    There was also suspicion of tampering with the handbrake by (most likely) one of the passengers in the brake van, because during a test/reproduction of events (part of the investigation), the handbrake was sufficient in preventing the runaway, based on what I've read.
    Some of the safety measures that would have prevented this tragedy had already been set up decades earlier (space interval using the telegraph and signals) or recommended following the Clayton Tunnel crash in 1861. Decision makers not mandating those safety measures contributed significantly to the events at Armagh.
    The high body count at Armagh was what finally convinced them to spend the money to implement those changes.

  • @ChowderTDMOFCAL
    @ChowderTDMOFCAL 4 года назад +4

    4:12 Annie and clarabel?

  • @ThomastheE2
    @ThomastheE2 Год назад +1

    I love these documentaries. Keep up the good work on future wreck documentaries.

  • @BoCoD702
    @BoCoD702 2 года назад +3

    rest in peace to those people

  • @geoffreyblack5982
    @geoffreyblack5982 5 лет назад +1

    Very well done and informative 🖒

  • @jacksalvin364
    @jacksalvin364 5 лет назад +8

    6:32 *whistle blows*

  • @sandrapiazza9429
    @sandrapiazza9429 3 года назад +3

    Thomas’s Reaction To This Accident: Cinders And Ashes! That’s Terrifying!

  • @thatguydillan6360
    @thatguydillan6360 5 лет назад +5

    May the lost always be remembered

  • @GTKCF2023
    @GTKCF2023 2 года назад +1

    Request: 1979 Harvey, Illinois Train Collision 43 years later

  • @scidididi9564
    @scidididi9564 5 лет назад +7

    still waiting for the Harlingen (the netherlands) collision though i don’t think there is a lot of english info about it but if you need info i could help you with it as i’m dutch, but still it’s a good video man!🙂🙂👍👍

  • @thegrimreaper2208
    @thegrimreaper2208 4 года назад +2

    I live in Northern Ireland and I live in County Armagh

  • @sebacomics3372
    @sebacomics3372 4 года назад +6

    Thomas the tank engine:(after watching the video) well that was shocking I think its time I leave I seen enough(puffs away)

  • @ItzBIULDmusic
    @ItzBIULDmusic 5 лет назад +12

    4:00 look it's Anne and Clarabelle

    • @Stuingtion
      @Stuingtion 4 года назад +1

      It's most likely the same type of coach that they were based on

    • @blackpanther1013
      @blackpanther1013 4 года назад +2

      yep now we know how they got to the island of sodor they probably didn't tell Thomas about this wreck.

    • @florjanbrudar692
      @florjanbrudar692 4 года назад

      Ethan Obrien You realize this was in 1889, right?!

    • @buddee20
      @buddee20 4 года назад

      @@florjanbrudar692 there is something called a joke

    • @florjanbrudar692
      @florjanbrudar692 3 года назад

      @@buddee20 You think I never heard of this word before?

  • @jayhunt2600
    @jayhunt2600 4 года назад +4

    2:27 LOL
    3:28 I like the sound of that whistle.
    6:02 look behind the loco. Why the flip would you put a break van right there?!

    • @sockshandle
      @sockshandle 4 года назад

      Simply put to help on descending the hills (similar to how Donald and Douglas top and tail the train sometimes)

    • @florjanbrudar692
      @florjanbrudar692 3 года назад

      2:27 IMO I don't understand how that is funny
      3:28 I actually agree
      6:02 This is reversed footage of the Staplehurst train crash

  • @amtrakprime1876
    @amtrakprime1876 Год назад +1

    It still haunts me to this day seeing the armagh train crash

  • @TheRealNebbers
    @TheRealNebbers 4 года назад +8

    4:00 Thomas, seven Annies , and eight clarabels.

  • @neildahlgaard-sigsworth3819
    @neildahlgaard-sigsworth3819 5 лет назад +1

    You're slightly wrong when saying there were steam hoses between the coaches for the braking system. No steam was in these hoses, only air or no air. At this time there were 2 forms of vacuum brakes: those that used a vacuum to release the brakes and those, like here that used a vacuum to put on the brakes. The steam remained in the locomotive to power the exhauster that put on the brakes in the brakes used in this disaster.

  • @MsMariGaming
    @MsMariGaming 5 лет назад +5

    L&BSCR Class A1X 'Terrier' '76' and Stroudley 4 Wheelers Coaches uwu. Best thing ever

  • @mr.blackrose2177
    @mr.blackrose2177 5 лет назад +1

    Big fan love your vids

  • @joshbrony2204
    @joshbrony2204 5 лет назад +12

    *Sees the poster*
    Me: Dear sweet Celestia this wreck must have been bad. *watches it* Dear Celestia that horrified me.

    • @harrisonofcolorado8886
      @harrisonofcolorado8886 5 лет назад +2

      You're a MLP fan, aren't you? Or were you just saying that? (I like MLP too I was just wondering)

    • @joshbrony2204
      @joshbrony2204 5 лет назад +1

      @@harrisonofcolorado8886 Yes. I'm still a huge fan of MLP:FiM to this day

    • @neargaming2057
      @neargaming2057 4 года назад +1

      Josh Brony/train/pilot nice to see some still holding on even as many left over the years. How you holding up post FiM?

    • @florjanbrudar692
      @florjanbrudar692 4 года назад +1

      Josh Brony Don't you know the difference between a poster and a *thumbnail?* Because in RUclips it's a thumbnail

    • @joshbrony2204
      @joshbrony2204 4 года назад +1

      @@neargaming2057 . Well buddy, I'm doing just fine still watching old episodes and waiting for the Shorts to come out.

  • @scotttilson8876
    @scotttilson8876 4 года назад

    You talk about how trains are safe for today. I still have Crashes on those things every few years.

  • @aaron7671
    @aaron7671 5 лет назад +4

    Do the Callaway train derailment / explosion please.

  • @ZeldaTheSwordsman
    @ZeldaTheSwordsman 2 года назад +1

    Had to downvote because of what you said about vacuum brakes. The more common kind of vacuum brake actually _does_ follow the automatic "locomotive must actively keep the brakes off" design principle, hence engines needing an ejector (the failure of which could bring an otherwise mechanically-sound train to a standstill). The vacuum brakes on the GNR of Ireland were of the more primitive "simple" vacuum brake type. It's important to distinguish.

  • @fox5news68
    @fox5news68 5 лет назад +4

    If you look hard enough you will see Annie and clarabel. PS still waiting for the DC Metro crash 10 years later.

    • @germansteamlocomotive
      @germansteamlocomotive 5 лет назад

      Well as I speak, He allready Made that Vid!

    • @fox5news68
      @fox5news68 5 лет назад

      Austin Quinn here’s the thing at the time of me originally posting this it was not made so it made sense at the time and that’s fax📠

  • @StarFrog
    @StarFrog 5 лет назад +2

    It's like he's telling a scary story, which it is

  • @reinaldopereira8685
    @reinaldopereira8685 5 лет назад +5

    Hey thunderbolt can you do the Hoxie Arkansa train derailment plz🙂🙂🙂

  • @williamgeorgefraser
    @williamgeorgefraser 5 лет назад

    If anyone had put even a little thought into this, they would have put 4 of the coaches of the special onto the regular train leaving 20 minutes later. The coaches could then have been transferred to the special once the gradients were passed. However, this was in Ireland...

  • @Maunico0809
    @Maunico0809 5 лет назад +3

    On September 26th can you do the Hoboken Incendent 3 years later

  • @charonsferryold
    @charonsferryold 5 лет назад +1

    It's always those 19th century excursion trains you gotta watch out for. One of them derailed not far from where I live, killed 5 people.