Quintinshill train collision 105 years later

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  • Опубликовано: 21 май 2020
  • Eerily reminiscent to another fatal 3 train collision that would take place several years later in Harrow we touch on the worst train wreck in British history and one of the most tragic stories from the first world war. This is by far my longest documentary but despite the age of the wreck, there was certainly a lot to talk about.
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  • @HSMiyamoto
    @HSMiyamoto 4 года назад +447

    Quintinshill is a tragic example of how a railway accident is usually the result of multiple errors, not just one failure.

    • @Thunderbolt_1000_Siren
      @Thunderbolt_1000_Siren  4 года назад +108

      That's the case in pretty much almost every disaster. They don't just happen. They are a chain of critical events that eventually lead to the critical moment.

    • @luckykai7473
      @luckykai7473 4 года назад +14

      ​@@Thunderbolt_1000_Siren did any of the cars survive because last year on rememberance day i was at a train car that was at a port and people where talking about a train crash involving scottish soliders now this couldve been a train crash where i was 100 and a bit year ago because the area i was standing on used to be train tracks cant remeber much about it though but it was either an old car from around that period or a recreation sorry about bad spelling and detail i they also had a recreation of the scots uniforms

    • @chase_2566
      @chase_2566 4 года назад +5

      @@Thunderbolt_1000_Siren hi

    • @nigelmurphy6761
      @nigelmurphy6761 4 года назад +3

      @@Thunderbolt_1000_Siren yep. In every accident there's usuallyt nearly always more than one cause

    • @alexhando8541
      @alexhando8541 4 года назад +16

      @@luckykai7473 No, all of the carriages were scrapped, but a carriage of the same design of those that made up the troop train was restored and has had two memorial plaques attatched to it. It now resides where I volunteer, which is at the Mountsorrel Railway, near Loughborough, Leicestershire, Central England.

  • @Captain_Yorkie1
    @Captain_Yorkie1 4 года назад +277

    Signalman: I feel like I'm forgetting something.
    Looks outside window.
    Signalman: Bollocks.

    • @jubilee782
      @jubilee782 4 года назад +14

      😂

    • @florjanbrudar692
      @florjanbrudar692 3 года назад +14

      Captain Yorkie YT I hope this is exactly what he thought or said or at least something like that

    • @adamchmielewski6162
      @adamchmielewski6162 3 года назад +26

      Signalman: I feel like I’m forgetting something.
      Others: If you forgot, then it wasn’t important.
      Signalman: Yeah, you’re probably right.
      *Five engines on four lines*

    • @monnaagdamag855
      @monnaagdamag855 3 года назад +3

      No

    • @josephhosty-locke9223
      @josephhosty-locke9223 3 года назад +5

      I’m so glad i checked the comments after

  • @WCWThunderRosa
    @WCWThunderRosa 4 года назад +651

    So basically we’ve got 5 trains trying to fit on 4 lines, yeah?
    Train go boom.

    • @davidzanelli6847
      @davidzanelli6847 4 года назад +67

      Oi, mate, so what we've got 'ere is a wee-bit of a tight squeeze. Looks like we're trying to fit a bit too many trains on this line, ye? Rather schtewpid, innit?

    • @davidzanelli6847
      @davidzanelli6847 4 года назад +20

      @CharlieRobloxKerbal *epic movie voice*

    • @JasontheFolf
      @JasontheFolf 4 года назад +5

      Boom boom

    • @jenniferwright5536
      @jenniferwright5536 4 года назад +3

      Flying Gamer I had the same thought

    • @kadebruce295
      @kadebruce295 4 года назад +14

      CharlieRobloxKerbal 5 trains, 4 lines ,1 collision, hotel? Trivago.

  • @sly123size
    @sly123size 4 года назад +267

    i could imagine if they make this as a movie

  • @lcmortensen
    @lcmortensen 4 года назад +91

    Bonus fact: Quintinshill signal box didn't close until 1973 when the line was resignalled ahead of electrification (completed 1974).

    • @concept5631
      @concept5631 2 года назад

      That's a 70 year long history.
      Damn.

    • @florjanbrudar692
      @florjanbrudar692 2 года назад

      @@concept5631 Yes, but lcmortensen's comment is old.

    • @concept5631
      @concept5631 2 года назад

      @@florjanbrudar692 Ok?

    • @Jaidyn228
      @Jaidyn228 11 месяцев назад

      I’m surprised beeching didn’t chop it to pieces himself early in the modernization plan

    • @j.a.g1291
      @j.a.g1291 6 месяцев назад

      @@Jaidyn228You’ll be surprised how many mechanical signal boxes remain on the network in the uk. It’s true that it’s being phased out, but a lot of branch lines still work this way. In fact, there are some large mainline lever frames that are still in use today: Stockport has a cluster of 5 boxes that remain because the new system simply couldn’t cope with the complex layout. And Shrewsbury has the largest box left: I believe it’s called Severn junction.
      While this video implies otherwise, the absolute block system works, and is very safe WHEN OPERATED CORRECTLY.

  • @_Maelgon_
    @_Maelgon_ 4 года назад +237

    *when u see a documentary from thunder for the 1st time in 3 weeks*
    ;~;

  • @stashyjon
    @stashyjon 4 года назад +51

    Well done. i've studied the Quintinshill crash for many years as an amature railway historian, and that is one of most concise and ballanced accounts I've come across.
    Keep up the good work.

  • @georgeheld1901
    @georgeheld1901 4 года назад +80

    8:26 I really like the chart diagram, you should put them on more videos, they make it easier to understand sometimes

  • @stationmasterkuma
    @stationmasterkuma 3 года назад +59

    2:36
    railfans when they go into creative mode

  • @Sinc3r3ly
    @Sinc3r3ly 4 года назад +42

    I just wanna say I love your content. It's informative and entertaining yet not boring. When I draw I'll often put your videos on in the background. Honestly GG!!

  • @victorianocabral8861
    @victorianocabral8861 4 года назад +135

    R.I.P passengers and soliders who died R.I.P

    • @vincitveritas3872
      @vincitveritas3872 4 года назад +6

      I go to Quintinshill 22nd May 06.50 every year. Not this year due to Covid 19. Next year I'll be there.

    • @adamnielsen9929
      @adamnielsen9929 4 года назад +2

      Soldiers*

    • @vincitveritas3872
      @vincitveritas3872 4 года назад +5

      @@adamnielsen9929 thanks didn't notice that! Was not tearful at time. Wish I could of been at Quintinshill on anniversary this year but for covid restrictions. I'll go next year with remeberance cross blessed by priest. They will never be forgotten.

    • @Wizlo_OP
      @Wizlo_OP 3 года назад

      😞😞😞😞😞

    • @Wizlo_OP
      @Wizlo_OP 3 года назад

      😭

  • @n1ght_243
    @n1ght_243 4 года назад +212

    Hold up this just premiered and there's already 2 dislikes what the hell guys...

    • @itsjusttyler5315
      @itsjusttyler5315 4 года назад +40

      Its just salty Karen’s who complain about the documentaries when their kids watch the video

    • @williambryant5946
      @williambryant5946 4 года назад +24

      I think some people give a thumbs down because the train wreck and people dying not because the video was of bad quality. When I first started on youtube I was unsure of what to do when the quality of the video was good but the things in the video were sad and I didn't want anyone to think I was giving the terrible situation in the video a like instead of saying the video was well done. So I gave some thumbs down on good videos before I understood completely how it worked.

    • @terryaltherr2481
      @terryaltherr2481 4 года назад +11

      It's the corporations who are angry that the monetization feature allows ads on videos they don't want to be associated with

    • @evosagara
      @evosagara 4 года назад +10

      Dont worry about the dislikers they are trash

    • @xavierrodriguez2914
      @xavierrodriguez2914 4 года назад +9

      How can you dislike this?!?!

  • @Nick-sw6rh
    @Nick-sw6rh 4 года назад +44

    Finally a Documentary

    • @jayhunt2600
      @jayhunt2600 4 года назад +4

      The Hitton train collision is a Documentary, too!

    • @Nate-vd2ji
      @Nate-vd2ji 4 года назад +3

      I thought they were all documentary?

    • @SRR475
      @SRR475 4 года назад +2

      Jay Hunt *hinton

  • @williamsquires3070
    @williamsquires3070 4 года назад +28

    Amazing Grace on bagpipes always brings a tear to my eyes regardless of who died, or when.

    • @DanknDerpyGamer
      @DanknDerpyGamer 4 года назад +5

      Shit, even without someone dying, it's hard to not go misty-eyed hearing Amazing Grace on the 'pipes.

    • @Cubsfan_75
      @Cubsfan_75 4 года назад +1

      Me too man

  • @TweetsieRailroader
    @TweetsieRailroader 4 года назад +27

    7:18 "What Responsible Driver would stop, as if he were at a roadside layby? It's Rule 55, You Can't Do It!" The Rev. W. Awdry.

    • @SteamTrainTy
      @SteamTrainTy 4 года назад +6

      Rev. W. Awdry? As in, the the creator of Thomas the tank engine?

    • @ayeshafenner7180
      @ayeshafenner7180 3 года назад +3

      The very same.

    • @florjanbrudar692
      @florjanbrudar692 2 года назад

      @@SteamTrainTy No other person has that name.

    • @jamesfracasse8178
      @jamesfracasse8178 2 года назад

      Sir Topham Hat: this accident has caused confusion and delay😮😢

    • @sharksman20rocks
      @sharksman20rocks Год назад

      @@jamesfracasse8178 Donald and Douglas: “Aye, especially on our old line (The Caledonian Railway)”

  • @Thathondakid2000
    @Thathondakid2000 4 года назад +24

    Thanks for doing the tugs voice in your last stream puts a smile on my face

  • @toddbloomer8812
    @toddbloomer8812 4 года назад +15

    I love how you're able to make the lead up to a crash not boring. You go into such deep detail about what is going on at every turn, which normally would be boring. But you do it in such a way that... enraptured the viewer's attention. I love your videos and how you go into such great detail, and this video is no different 😁

  • @tescotrain
    @tescotrain 4 года назад +143

    This the 1st Scottish train wreck documentary, nice!

    • @jessehippoears3337
      @jessehippoears3337 4 года назад +2

      Yea finally

    • @sirrliv
      @sirrliv 4 года назад +3

      I'm sure it won't be the last.

    • @SteamTrainTy
      @SteamTrainTy 4 года назад +1

      Where?

    • @SteamTrainTy
      @SteamTrainTy 4 года назад +2

      Oh wait, I thought that you typed “accent”

    • @mikelucas3559
      @mikelucas3559 4 года назад +1

      Une petite photo pour vous tous ces deux heures à te faire à Paris avec mon père à côté d’une personne

  • @MurrayJoe
    @MurrayJoe 3 года назад +11

    I first read of this in the book, “Red for Danger.”
    It’s a great book to learn about early train disasters, one other notable was the Clayton Tunnel crash. Which occurred when a signal did not go back to stop.

  • @nicolaroberts6875
    @nicolaroberts6875 2 года назад +5

    Exceptionally well done and extensively researched. Even more amazing is the fact that it's been produced by someone not native to the UK.

  • @ajaxengineco
    @ajaxengineco 4 года назад +3

    I missed the premier because I was asleep but watching this now, as a Britishman, it's exceptionally well made. I particularly like the use of Caledonian Railway hooter whistles while demonstrating the crash. As only 2 passengers on the local perished, I'm imagining the reactions.
    'Whatever was that awful bump, I shall complain, this is absolutely terrible.'
    'I think it was more then a bump, our engine has become a pile of crushed wreckage.'

  • @privatejoker5403
    @privatejoker5403 4 года назад +76

    I got told stories of this by my great grandpa because his dad was there and it was brutal solders burnt to death and shot by there own officers because it was the best thing for them so they wold not burn to death but after that my family loved the railway strange that

    • @jed-henrywitkowski6470
      @jed-henrywitkowski6470 4 года назад +7

      I'd rather take one to the head than burn alive.

    • @jed-henrywitkowski6470
      @jed-henrywitkowski6470 4 года назад +2

      As an American, I am unfamiliar with the English meaning of guards and signal boxes in this context. Could you enlighten me? SIgnal boxes, in American, is and always have been a device that houses electrical components for the signals.

    • @florjanbrudar692
      @florjanbrudar692 4 года назад +1

      Great*

    • @antonrudenham3259
      @antonrudenham3259 4 года назад +7

      @@jed-henrywitkowski6470
      On a freight train the last wagon was known as the guards van, it contained rudimentary living facilities and brake operating levers, you might know it as a caboose?
      The guy in this was the guard, that might be a brakesman to you?
      This event took place before electrification and all of the points and signals were operated by hand meaning that there was a mechanical connection between the array of levers in the signal box and the actual points and signals.
      The signal box is the solitary building by the side of the line in the video.
      The signal man occupied the box and was responsible for the section of track covered by that box.
      Back in 1915 I'm sure you guys had a similar set up but under different names.
      So Jed, what did you guys call the guy that pulled the levers that operated the signals and points?
      Nowadays a signal box is indeed actually a junction box where electrical components like breakers and relays are concentrated for convenience sake.

    • @Martin_Adams184
      @Martin_Adams184 4 года назад +6

      @@jed-henrywitkowski6470 Guards are the people who in the States are usually called conductors. In Britain, they are in charge of the train, with special emphasis on operational and safety issues other than those directly controlled by the locomotive and its driver (i.e. engineer). I think it is essentially the same in the USA and Canada. A signal box in Britain is called an interlocking or signalling tower in North America. I think that the boxes that house electrical components for signals are what, in Britain, are called signalling cabinets.

  • @singletruckshaystudios6828
    @singletruckshaystudios6828 4 года назад +81

    The last time I was this early to a video this crash was breaking news

  • @es-fw4qc
    @es-fw4qc 4 года назад +6

    As a Brit, I gotta hand it to you, an American who got these pronunciations pretty spot on (something nearly unheard of, so well done)

  • @Plokman040
    @Plokman040 4 года назад +8

    Holy freaking crap!!! Now I know why my dad linked this, my family name is mentioned loudy here. Nimmo, and this was a Scottish section of the line! They could of been distant relatives, I knew railroads/railways had a deep connection to my family but this is just oh my!

  • @dreamsofparis5535
    @dreamsofparis5535 4 года назад +23

    More than an hour after premiere! I must say, I'm glad you're expanding outside the USA. Kinda wondering if you'll touch on the worst train disasters outside the USA.
    Edit: Forgot about the Tangiwai Disaster! Sorry! Was tired last night!

    • @joefrew1614
      @joefrew1614 4 года назад +4

      Don’t also forget about the Armagh train wreck as well

    • @dreamsofparis5535
      @dreamsofparis5535 4 года назад +2

      @@joefrew1614 Grrrrrrr! So many videos! I can't seem to keep track!

    • @battleshipfan3435
      @battleshipfan3435 4 года назад +2

      And the only train crash in japan

    • @844SteamFan
      @844SteamFan 4 года назад +1

      @@battleshipfan3435 lol

    • @patricklee1633
      @patricklee1633 3 года назад

      @@battleshipfan3435 Hopefully, he'll also get to the 1988 Gare De Lyon incident in Paris, France too.

  • @steveturner5656
    @steveturner5656 4 года назад +2

    Some points.
    1) The signal-box was in fact run on two and a half shifts, Tinsley and Meakin alterating every so often to do the two long shifts (6am-4pm and 8pm-6am) and a relief signalman covering the four hour gap.
    2) The picture of the Cardean class locomotive is good but slightly misleading; the local train only had four vehicles.
    3) The illegal arrangement thing is slightly incorrect. At the inquiry both men admitted that it had begun when Meakin was assigned to the box two and a half years before; Tinsley only benefited from the local being shunted at Quintinshill since the war had caused the heavier traffic that necessitated this..
    4) Hutchinson left the box at around 643. It was around this time that Tisey's actions suggested that he had completely forgotten about the local train, despite it bringing him to work and the fireman he had stood behind having just been in his box.
    5) A curious thing as regarded the unsent Blocking Back signal; records showed that on the four occasions the local had been wrong-roaded recently, that signal had been correctly sent.
    6) It was not that unusual for old-time railway companies to rehire staff in this way; the North Eastern Railway had done it after the Thirsk disaster in 1892. Also, the fact that two of the men's superiors suffered what were demotions in all but name suggests that Caledonian suspected they were at least partly culpable in not ensuring rules were followed. Interestingly they even gave Meakin's wife a job suring his jail time.
    7) The rather lame BBC documentary went all guns blazing for the railway company and largely let the government off. However the wartime government had put companies like the Caley into an impossible position by not paying full price for their many trains. The companies could either run enough other trains to make a profit, or go under. This shabby treatment led to the Grouping of 1922-1923 when the 120+ companies were merged into the Big Four.
    8) The epilepsy defence is weak, particularly as it only emerged after the accident.
    9) Thisvideo was downright brilliant!

  • @Dekko-chan
    @Dekko-chan 3 года назад +3

    I love the format that you make these videos in. Its very early-2000s. I like it.

  • @CriticalMaster95
    @CriticalMaster95 4 года назад +42

    Could you do the 2004 Sri Lanka tsunami train wreck? That was the deadliest one in history.

    • @whitetiger7411
      @whitetiger7411 3 года назад +2

      Same

    • @patricklee1633
      @patricklee1633 3 года назад

      @Samantha Kamman Ditto.

    • @brendanu1680
      @brendanu1680 3 года назад +1

      @@patricklee1633 no way! no way! Oh heck no! I wanted valhana and Westbury, not wrecks worse than big bayou!

    • @furioussherman7265
      @furioussherman7265 3 года назад +1

      That one wasn't caused by human error or mechanical failures, however. It was the result of a natural disaster.

    • @sharksman20rocks
      @sharksman20rocks Год назад

      @@furioussherman7265 the same happened with the Tangiwai disaster

  • @kbtiger1279
    @kbtiger1279 4 года назад +6

    The rendition of Amazing Grace you added to the end was well fitting! Good job!

  • @lazydragon2551
    @lazydragon2551 4 года назад +2

    In all honesty, those who were so badly injured they got sent home. That wreck was a blessing in disguise. They got saved from a much worse fate.

    • @Thunderbolt_1000_Siren
      @Thunderbolt_1000_Siren  4 года назад +3

      They had already got their taste of hell on earth so they didn't need more.

  • @levidarling5107
    @levidarling5107 Год назад +2

    Oh my gosh! This is worse than the Tangiwai train disaster in New Zealand. This scary stuff, yet a really good video.

  • @allandavis8201
    @allandavis8201 4 года назад +11

    Whilst I love everything mechanical I don’t usually watch railway or train related, but your videos are informative and interesting, the events are explained in a way that enthusiasts and casual viewers can understand, in this case it seems that it was a disaster just waiting to happen, with procedures, regulations and individuals all to blame for this tragedy, I think we all get fed up with health and safety inspectors and rules, but if the health and safety executive had been in existence at the time this accident might never have happened or at least possibly not as bad. Thanks for sharing your excellent work very interesting. 😀👍🇬🇧🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

    • @Thunderbolt_1000_Siren
      @Thunderbolt_1000_Siren  4 года назад +2

      Glad you enjoyed!

    • @allandavis8201
      @allandavis8201 4 года назад

      Thunderbolt 1000 Siren Productions, I appreciate how much work you must put in on every episode you produce, and I would like to be a Patreon supporter as well, but unfortunately my limited budget will not allow for it, all I can do is give moral support and hope you can keep on doing your videos they are so well made and informative, thanks again. 😀👍🇬🇧🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

    • @Gojira160
      @Gojira160 Год назад

      ​@@Thunderbolt_1000_SirenThere were four accidents before the Quintinshill Disaster, not on the Caledonian Railway, but on the LBSCR, from 1897 to 1910.

    • @Gojira160
      @Gojira160 Год назад

      ​@@Thunderbolt_1000_SirenThere are also 5 accidents on the Great Northern Railway.

  • @cf1925
    @cf1925 4 года назад +15

    12:20 tbh sent a chill down my back.

  • @RufusT9
    @RufusT9 4 года назад +4

    Good account I reckon. I live not far from here, and visiting the site today you get the impression that apart from the absence of the box which was removed in the 1970s, Quintinshill and its passing loops have not changed and is as silent as it would have been before the accident that summer morning in May. There is (or was) elsewhere on RUclips a BBC Horizon 1972 documentary presented by Paul Vaughan which showed the interior of the box.

  • @abedbush
    @abedbush 3 года назад +9

    EXCELLENT documentary! Thunderbolt 1000 Siren does a wonderful job, I love his stuff. How can I support him? I’ve never used Patreon but I want to support his work. He did such a nice job on this piece, it was so appropriate. Also, I *LOVE* it when he features other voices! They always do an amazing job too. Two thumbs up!!! 👍 👍

  • @harrisonofcolorado8886
    @harrisonofcolorado8886 4 года назад +5

    This was very tragic. Rest in peace all the victims of the troop train and the other 2 trains as well.

  • @jenniferhalczuk224
    @jenniferhalczuk224 4 года назад +10

    Ah yes, I love a good documentary that’s interesting. Like the ones before it.

  • @caileanthomson1286
    @caileanthomson1286 4 года назад +10

    Great video, Thunder. As a Scotsman, it pleased me to hear you pronounce the difficult to say Scottish names very well. Keep up the great work, sir!

    • @Thunderbolt_1000_Siren
      @Thunderbolt_1000_Siren  4 года назад +5

      Glad I could please you. But goodness me it took several outtakes to get it right. Thankfully some names were easy like Edinburgh as I've watched so many videos from Airline (UK) including the freak out compilations by Arthur TV.

  • @jamesc4999
    @jamesc4999 4 года назад +17

    I've seen a BBC documentary on this
    it is nice to see a different perspective

    • @niallstewart2383
      @niallstewart2383 10 месяцев назад

      There is also a book called the Quintinshill conspiracy and it is also a modern day re-examined railway inquiry to the accident on that day and it explains how it was cover up by the Caledonian railway company and the British Government.

  • @collinblack8474
    @collinblack8474 4 года назад +5

    Thanks for explaining the accident. And the amazing grace done by bagpipes was very nice. An accident that should never have happened.

  • @alecbutler2450
    @alecbutler2450 4 года назад +3

    I really like to hear different wreck stories and thought of different others that can be explained as well. Some of them come from 1972 BBC special on train wrecks which included Quintin's hill known as Rail Crash. Also, after watching the Big Boy wreck a while back, I remembered a story about a C&O Allegheny boiler explosion from a DVD. Something to look into, but otherwise, keep up the good work.

  • @MrTankThatStopped
    @MrTankThatStopped 3 года назад +2

    Thunderbolt: But there was a problem,
    Ad: my father, has left us.
    Me: B R U H

  • @raulsanchez2756
    @raulsanchez2756 4 года назад +4

    Reminds me of a ATC forgetting that a local commuter was on the main runway waiting for clearance to proceed. A passenger airliner landed on top of that plane. One of the Koch brothers was a passenger in the airliner. Happened LA or SF sometime in 1980s.

    • @sharksman20rocks
      @sharksman20rocks 2 года назад

      I know what you’re talking about, it happened in 1991, involving a 737 and a swearington metroliner

  • @Decgyrrl
    @Decgyrrl Год назад +3

    How sad, all those lives lost. May they rest peacefully. 🙏🏽⚘✝️🕊
    Thank you, for a documentary well told.👍🏼

  • @CaliGSXR1K
    @CaliGSXR1K 4 года назад +16

    Rest In Peace to the soldiers😭

  • @ricechung8319
    @ricechung8319 4 года назад +1

    WOW!11MINS of information,I'm proud of you.

  • @xtbrat4355
    @xtbrat4355 4 года назад +14

    After this Clapham junction happened where three passenger trains collided.

    • @calldfwp2230
      @calldfwp2230 4 года назад +2

      And in between them was harrow and wealdstone where three trains also collided

    • @is4041
      @is4041 4 года назад +4

      We like coliding 3 trains in the uk dont we

    • @MrTankThatStopped
      @MrTankThatStopped 4 года назад +1

      Apparently, i s..... that is true, but the accidents involve shitty signals and drivers, Clapham was poorly wired signals, and The Harrow and wealdshire accident was because a shitty driver was on the perth express (unstreamlined duchess class)

    • @chafanonash3418
      @chafanonash3418 4 года назад +1

      To make things even worse, the cause was I believe one of the guys in the tower nearby arrived on one of the trains involved. That bastard literally forgot it.

    • @calldfwp2230
      @calldfwp2230 4 года назад

      @@MrTankThatStopped also because the driver passed a red signal because he couldn't see it in the fog.

  • @nicholastodd2060
    @nicholastodd2060 4 года назад +3

    An amazing documentary, keep up the great work! :)

  • @thomasoates3003
    @thomasoates3003 4 года назад +4

    Thanks for looking at a UK accident. This is one that is, sadly, mostly forgotten in popular culture.

    • @alisonwilson9749
      @alisonwilson9749 2 года назад +1

      I gather that news about it was kept to a minimum because it was wartime, and involved troops. By the end of the war, it was some years ago and so got rather forgotten.

    • @thomasoates3003
      @thomasoates3003 2 года назад

      @@alisonwilson9749 It was reported on at the time, but has since been rather overshadowed by the War. 220 dead, although tragic, is a drop in the ocean compared to the bloodbath that was the Western Front.

  • @benjaminhannigan4651
    @benjaminhannigan4651 4 года назад +21

    Oh yeah I been waiting for a documentary

  • @LUIGI-gx8bf
    @LUIGI-gx8bf 4 года назад +1

    As a huge train fan I’d say this channel is great

  • @ritchiesiepman5511
    @ritchiesiepman5511 4 года назад +8

    I love these docus bro. I hope you make one of the collision in my county (that's the Netherlands btw). You can find some info on Wikipedia about the Harmelen juction train wreck

  • @Wondering13
    @Wondering13 4 года назад +17

    I love trains!!!

  • @thecoldnorth5132
    @thecoldnorth5132 4 года назад +1

    Great documentary mate! Never even knew about this and that it was the worst train wreck in my country’s history

  • @marcus_rrp_productions2648
    @marcus_rrp_productions2648 Год назад

    My childhood friend really loves your video on Quintinshill. He's got scottish roots. So he took a special interest in it when he heard this wreck happened in Scotland. He has seen your many videos as well but preferred videos of Wrecks from 100+ years ago

  • @jameswright7284
    @jameswright7284 4 года назад +3

    Really enjoyed this one. I know images are pretty hard to get hence one image showing an LNER engine a bit before it's time. But otherwise really great video I wasn't aware of the rumour that soldiers put people out of their misery so thank you very much for that titbit of information.

  • @amtrakfan3023
    @amtrakfan3023 4 года назад +27

    Could you please do the 2002 metrolink train collision with the BNSF train

    • @yeoldeseawitch
      @yeoldeseawitch 4 года назад +13

      I'd prefer the Santiago de compostela high speed train crash in Spain in July of 2013

    • @thomasaesir5647
      @thomasaesir5647 4 года назад +2

      @@yeoldeseawitch I also want to see that one.

    • @battleshipfan3435
      @battleshipfan3435 4 года назад +1

      @@thomasaesir5647 its a infamous crash in train history,he should just do it

  • @peterjonesz
    @peterjonesz 3 года назад

    i wasnt sure if i was going to like the style of this but well presented

  • @mixazizu
    @mixazizu 4 года назад +1

    I've been waiting for you to do Quintishill disaster for months and here it is.

  • @phill1451
    @phill1451 4 года назад +22

    yay new documentary

  • @Surfliner450
    @Surfliner450 4 года назад +3

    I saw the History Guy episode about this

    • @Thunderbolt_1000_Siren
      @Thunderbolt_1000_Siren  4 года назад +2

      So did I. Did get quite a bit of information from his video. His however goes into WAY more detail as that guy is like a walking Encyclopedia. Love his work

  • @luv2sail66
    @luv2sail66 4 года назад +2

    Interesting and informative video about this tragedy. Thank you for your excellent work.

  • @kmwmlw
    @kmwmlw 4 года назад +2

    A brilliant presentation. Well done.

  • @MrOof-mt9zg
    @MrOof-mt9zg 4 года назад +5

    Yes I’ve been wanting this

  • @penkagenova7073
    @penkagenova7073 4 года назад +6

    When you said 1915 I legit thought of the Lusitania but other than that another great video

    • @florjanbrudar692
      @florjanbrudar692 2 года назад

      Lusitania's been underwater for 15 days when this accident happened.

  • @ZeldaTheSwordsman
    @ZeldaTheSwordsman 2 года назад +1

    It _is_ a rather extreme failure for Tinsley to have forgotten about the local train's presence when *he himself arrived on it* , so epilepsy screwing with him is not an impossibility.
    As for the two men being let out early and re-hired... Well, that was because they were able-bodied men and there was a war on.

  • @LUIGI-gx8bf
    @LUIGI-gx8bf 4 года назад

    If your a train fan then this channel (or maybe also mr Ryan’s channel) is your best pick

  • @DTRProductions.
    @DTRProductions. 4 года назад +5

    8:45 that crash sound will give me a nightmare if a two trains crashed where i live i would be scared

  • @jayhunt2600
    @jayhunt2600 4 года назад +7

    2:19, What happened to that poll in the background?! It's very crooked that a train might smash into it!

  • @JDT-Loadsamoney
    @JDT-Loadsamoney 3 года назад +1

    I believe there was this documentary on this a watched when I was six. I only watched because I loved trains, and still do. Yeah, I think this was the one they were talking about

  • @malachimuhammad-dy2ow
    @malachimuhammad-dy2ow Год назад

    Train Services involved in the Quintinshill Rail Disaster of 1915.
    1. Local service - Making all stops from Carlisle to Beattock.
    2. The Express Trains - Making limited stops London to Glasgow and Edinburgh.
    3. Troop Special to Gretna.
    4. Northbound Freight service to Glasgow.
    5. Southbound Coal train to Wales.

  • @TheHollowGHOST
    @TheHollowGHOST 4 года назад +14

    Fantastic video! Thank you for this one! Just a couple of (small) pronunciation issues for future reference:
    "Beatock" is pronounced "Bee-tock"
    "Moffat" is pronounced "Moffit"
    Although I am impressed that you pronounced Glasgow and Edinburgh correctly - from what I've heard on American media, those two get pronounced wrongly quite often!

    • @tonymartin6361
      @tonymartin6361 4 года назад +1

      And Carlisle is pronounced Carl Isle.

  • @samanthabradley1245
    @samanthabradley1245 3 года назад +4

    Also known as the abbots Ripton train Collision I wish you can make a video about it

  • @josephbland1999
    @josephbland1999 3 года назад +1

    Thunderbolt 1000 Siren Productions, am a Highlander and didn't know that much about this crash, we have had a couple derailments up here in recent years. (Freight speeding near Aviemore derailing in the snow and highspeed trains hitting landslips). Luckily head to head collisions seem to be a thing of the past. I did hear of one that happened around the seventies though near Dundee that was brutal, two passenger trains with one at a halt and another express or something on the same line behind it but I don't know too much about it.(sorry) If you want another idea for a Scottish video there is the famous The Tay Bridge Disaster of 1879. Great video

  • @tractorjunkco9431
    @tractorjunkco9431 4 года назад +1

    Your videos are awesome and your voice fits very well with the atmosphere.

  • @jayamd3579
    @jayamd3579 4 года назад +7

    the 'Pipes at the end are much appreciated! Alba gu brath

  • @florjanbrudar692
    @florjanbrudar692 4 года назад +8

    17:11 Guilty and arrested, but re-hired after release like *nothing* happened?! That's just pure bullshit!

    • @TheSteamdriver
      @TheSteamdriver 3 года назад

      There's a conspiracy theory that the whole company was poor at keeping to the rules from the stationmaster to not stopping the signalman from getting on the train at the wrong side. The signalman caused the accident shouldn't have gone on to work because the authors of the book I have read claims he had epilepsy. And the stationmaster/inspector to not doing spot checks on the men in the box. So the theory is that signals took the blame to cover up the rule breaking of the caledonian railway (CR) so that when they got out they got jobs there again. As I said it is a conspiracy theory. But I think it's a plausible one as it is the only one that seems to cover everything.

    • @andrewlucia865
      @andrewlucia865 Год назад

      @@TheSteamdriver While possible, I believe Occam's Razor applies here.
      Namely, there was a war on and they needed every able-bodied man they could get, so they were allowed to return to work. Not in the same positions, of course, but return to work nonetheless.

  • @lovecntrains2732
    @lovecntrains2732 2 года назад +1

    The saddest story ever it almost made me cry this taught me a lesson and everybody watching this to always be careful around tracks everybody please be safe not just that be safe even if you're not close to tracks I know the stories about a train Collision but be careful out there

  • @Daniel-sf4mr
    @Daniel-sf4mr 4 года назад +3

    I hope it’s not a very deadly British train wreck cuz I’m British

    • @Thunderbolt_1000_Siren
      @Thunderbolt_1000_Siren  4 года назад +1

      Well... About that...

    • @Daniel-sf4mr
      @Daniel-sf4mr 4 года назад +1

      Of course a deadly train wreck

    • @Daniel-sf4mr
      @Daniel-sf4mr 4 года назад +1

      Hey Thunderbolt 1000 siren productions do you have any more British steam train wrecks? Cuz I can’t wait to see them

    • @ExpressRailfan
      @ExpressRailfan 5 месяцев назад

      ​@@Thunderbolt_1000_SirenIt's so sad that the second northbound express crashed into the wreckage. Express was my favorite service on the Caledonian Railway.

  • @freyamurray7951
    @freyamurray7951 4 года назад +2

    I've heard about the disaster before and let me tell you I was horrfied to see burning choaches

  • @johnclayden1670
    @johnclayden1670 4 года назад +1

    A splendid explanation and as clear as anything I've watched or read about the accident, starting with LTC Rolt's book 'Red for Danger'.

  • @brianwong7285
    @brianwong7285 3 года назад +1

    1:17 He would later take command the British Grand Fleet during the Battle of Jutland which took place on May 31st 1916.
    However he would be demoted after that battle...

    • @brianwong7285
      @brianwong7285 3 года назад

      The Royal Scots who were on the troop train were actually supposed to be heading for the Middle East, because there was a campaign going on at the time at a place called Gallipoli, in the Ottoman Empire (today’s Turkey.)

  • @therebals2275
    @therebals2275 4 года назад +10

    Do the kismet train collisions where two USA Frieght trains collided

    • @apr859
      @apr859 4 года назад +4

      Cameraman railfan did it already Edit ryans colorado trains. I get confused with this stuff

    • @union_4014
      @union_4014 4 года назад +4

      ryans colorado rail productions and cameramanrailfan already did

    • @salinerailfan3907
      @salinerailfan3907 4 года назад +1

      @@union_4014 Yes, but thunder tends to do them better

    • @Thunderbolt_1000_Siren
      @Thunderbolt_1000_Siren  4 года назад +9

      @@salinerailfan3907 pfft oh stop it you're too kind! Though I will admit both do a great job in their work especially Ryan who's helped with a few of my videos such as the Cayce collision and 4005 videos.

    • @therebals2275
      @therebals2275 4 года назад +1

      Yeah you do a great job and I loved Ryan’s and when I saw it I thought “thunderbolt would do great at this”

  • @harrisonofcolorado8886
    @harrisonofcolorado8886 4 года назад +3

    I was not expecting this. But I was expecting to not expect something so whatever.

  • @DramaCarWolf
    @DramaCarWolf Год назад +1

    I was on a Brittan/Scotland vacation and I went to Edenborough Castle and one of the exhibits was about Quintinshill. They had some items of some of the soldiers that survived and some burnt items that were from the accident. It was chilling to see some the same pictures of the accident that was used at an exhibit and seeing some items from it. It was honestly a haunting exhibit.

    • @andybhoy1916
      @andybhoy1916 Год назад

      As a Scott I fucking hate the way you spelled Edinburgh

    • @andybhoy1916
      @andybhoy1916 Год назад

      You don’t say it the way it’s spelled

    • @DramaCarWolf
      @DramaCarWolf Год назад

      Meh it is what it is then. Oh well 🤷‍♂️

  • @ZAV1944
    @ZAV1944 4 года назад +2

    I am hoping you plan on doing a video about the Abbots Ripton rail accident(The insperation for the Wreck of the Flying Kipper in the Railway Series).

  • @gkess7106
    @gkess7106 4 года назад +3

    8:40 was the first time I could picture what was going on!

  • @STYtrainspotter2007
    @STYtrainspotter2007 4 года назад +5

    2:42 what the hell is go on with guy

  • @nathanirlam3159
    @nathanirlam3159 3 года назад +2

    oh, i bid farewell to the Depo and land! and i ride in from brave englands white sands, too search for my long ago, forgotten friends! to search for the place i hear all People end... as the souls of the dead fill the space of my mind, il search without sleeping till peace i can find! i fear not the weather, i fear not the tracks, i remeber the fallen, do they think of me?

  • @elizabethtrudgill3567
    @elizabethtrudgill3567 3 года назад +1

    The reason the two signal men only served a year in prison was because of the war. There were so few men available to take the jobs the railway needed all the employees they could get.

  • @gurtison6883
    @gurtison6883 4 года назад +4

    Sometime in the future, I would like to hear about the crash in East Aurora.

    • @scoobycarr5558
      @scoobycarr5558 4 года назад

      As I may recall it was the wreck of a Burlington Northern freight and a train from Southern Pacific on the west end of Eola Yard in Aurora early 1990s

  • @RailfanJalen
    @RailfanJalen 4 года назад +11

    Can you do the kew gardens train Collison LlRR

    • @tommcglone2867
      @tommcglone2867 4 года назад +4

      Im waiting for the 2006 Pendellino wreck. WHICH I WAS INVOLVED IN. I was 7 at the time. I still have the scar on my forehead from the debris.

    • @RailfanJalen
      @RailfanJalen 4 года назад +2

      Oh god bless you. I'm glad your alive

    • @terryaltherr2481
      @terryaltherr2481 4 года назад

      @Völkom Covers I guess we're doing Roberts Rules of Order lol

    • @terryaltherr2481
      @terryaltherr2481 4 года назад

      That said, I'm down with that

  • @pnwRC.
    @pnwRC. 3 года назад +1

    Fantastic video!

  • @daveroche6522
    @daveroche6522 2 года назад

    Thank you; these are excellent reports - forgotten/overlooked history.

  • @Cyber_Horse_Studios87
    @Cyber_Horse_Studios87 4 года назад +3

    Edward and James decided to go home. Their Siblings were all gone.

  • @patsmith6867
    @patsmith6867 3 года назад +4

    2:48 That's a Hansome Fellow there Nicely Dressed and Pleasant looking .
    uh , wait it says "Peterhead Prison" .

  • @vincitveritas3872
    @vincitveritas3872 2 года назад

    Tears every time I watch. Very well made video

  • @makelifefun7153
    @makelifefun7153 4 года назад

    Third time watching this one. Great job. I enjoy your docs more than the others I've see.

  • @NMCAR2006
    @NMCAR2006 4 года назад +3

    Thunderbolt, if you’re reading this, an idea for a crash documentary is UP 835. It crashed going too fast around a bend in 1946.

    • @HomerPenguin5516
      @HomerPenguin5516 4 года назад

      Thats actually a good idea
      What speed did it go?