Southall Train Collision 22 years later
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- Опубликовано: 18 сен 2019
- All information is from the Health and Safety final report
Been a while since I did a British wreck documentary but here's one some people are familiar with due to the CCTV camera footage of the wreck. This will be the last documentary before my trip to Strasburg and I'm calling in Stanislav to help me with the next one (Paddington)
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I will never forget this day. I am ashamed to say the anniversary passed so quickly I had forgotten. But I will never forget hearing about this accident. I lived in Hayes and was about 10 years old and at school. Looking back I think I heard the horn of the HST (that noise travelled far) that was involved, but I can't be sure. Then I came home from school and was told the news. Then my dad took me to see the wreckage a few days later. There were other people there, standing on the now demolished Southall footbridge (some of which has gone to Didcot). No-one said a word. It was silent. RIP to the seven who lost their lives.
Thank you for posting. In situations like that staring upon such a scene, there's really nothing to say and you can only stare in silence as well as in respect to those that lost their lives. I don't how I'd be able to sleep at night hearing or seeing a train that would eventually end up in disaster.
Hey thunder there’s a find me a game called jolly chapter 2, and when I heard particularly the jingle, I went… Wait, jolly? jolly: I smell a night guard over here. Me: *A-*
It’s astonishing that only seven passengers died given the sheer amount of carnage:
Agreed.
Its rare dat the back was save OMG
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Agreed
HST's were tough trains. Modern carriages are stronger and more durable in a disaster.
“He tried to accelerate his train out of the path of the high speed train...”
*But it was too late*
first
*Thomas "Danger" theme fading in*
I literally just played the thomas danger theme just to see how it would work
CRASH!
The 125 is still in-use - it was only recently retired from Paddington but is still in-use in a few regions around the UK.
BloomingOnion yeah they run out of Glasgow Queen St
Still run Edinburgh to London
GWR Cardiff-Taunton and Exeter/Plymouth-Penzance; LNER London-Leeds/York/Edinburgh/Sunderland/Inverness/Aberdeen; Hull Trains London-Hull; Scotrail Edinburgh/Glasgow-Aberdeen/Inverness; Cross Country Edinburgh/Glasgow-Plymouth
Cactus732 And on EMR services from St Pancras to Nottingham and Leeds, plus Hull Trains.
Weren't the HST's meant to go to scotrail as well as, and network rail have the flying banana, AND they do cross country workings.
The only Thomas & Friends episode not to be shown on TV.
TrainLover 106 wut
TrainLover 106 ,Uhhh what?
@@OffTheRailsUK are you ok?
@@GewelReal Why are you pinging me for no reason?
Guys, stop. He’s saying that this was the only accident to never be referred in any of the Thomas episodes.
the Intercity 125 finally makes its way onto the channel... albeit in an infamous crash..
(Yes I edited my comment so I don’t cause a further stir)
Urm yes but in a bad way and you're yipping and hollering?😔😒
Ben Conway I think your missing the point, this crash is a extremely well known train derailment in UK history, it’s a crash that is shocking when it wasn’t when it wasn’t on his channel before, so I can understand his happiness that it’s on now. He’s not cheering over the fact that he can watch the crash, he’s just happy that the crash made it into his channel
@@ZNZDerby i do know you idiot i remember it happening i remember watching it on the news cos well lets see im from the UK fucking Muppet
@@benconway9010 you don't need to swear, child.
Novascone _ thats not appropriate bruv
01:00 Left where? LOL How do you get "swazz nee ahh" from Swansea?
That's hilarious.
Dyslexia maybe? He could've read it as "Swasnea", in which case his pronunciation would be pretty accurate, haha. Still hilarious though.
He's American, could be a different pronouncements
@@WarwickshireTransport enunciations*
Swosnia
HST Intercity 125 is still in use.
It was running until 2019 but only on Great Western Mainline operated by Great Western Railways. Other operators in UK are still using them like Scotrail or LNER
Were you trying to say Swansea? It is literally just Swan-see. Also, not much harder, is Southall, pronounced South-all
If you can't pronounce Swansea, then I don't know what to say. Its not like other places in Wales, such as Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch.
Its just the two words swan and sea put together.And both are easy to pronounce.
I was so confused as well as how he couldn't pronouce Swansea and southall
Swanzy would be a better phonetic spelling. Pronounced as one word.
Swosnia
Swosnia-Swerzegovina
These companies are always good at 'shutting the barn door after the horse has escaped'.
What are you talking about?
@@florjanbrudar692 something to do with me not knowing anything about this until now.
@@florjanbrudar692 See 13:25. Up until the accident, FGW was happy to let the safety rules slide, even to the extent of doctoring the rule book. It was only AFTER the accident that FGW implemented safety measures that, had they been in force at the time of the said accident, would have prevented it. Hence 'shutting the barn door AFTER the horse has gotten away.'
0:41 - Bit of a misconception there - the 125s are still in service - most of them have been transferred to Abellio ScotRail, while its Australian counterpart, the NSW XPT, is very much still going strong. It's also worth mentioning that the two people who died in the first carriage suffered an extremely quick, yet equally gruesome death - they were thrown out of the destroyed windows of Coach H, only to be crushed under the carriage's weight when it fell onto its side.
Sorry to break it to you, but in 2021, a Melbourne bound XPT, being pulled by XP2018 derailed in Wallan, XP2018 and all 5 passengers cars derailed, while the rear power car stayed on track. only the Driver and Conductor died, luckily none of the passengers were killed, but apart from that, the XPT is doing good!
It gets me every time when the 1st coach rolls over and the second coach collided head-on with the hoppers, thrown upwards and when is bent by the forces of the other coaches behind it while being pinned by one of the hoppers. I’d be surprised if anyone in the 2nd coach survived the collision.
We still have HST’s, they haven’t all gone yet. Regular stock over the midland main line.
As well as the South West region of GWR network as the short "Castle" and "Classic" sets, and in Scotland as similar.
Shout out to that guy who ran towards the crash to save people when the incident happened
The *b a l l s* on that man. Not even letting the crash finish straight up sprinting to the crash
I too did a documentary on this wreck, and yours is far better detailed and far better overall!
Yours was still good.
CameraManRailFan yours was good👍👍
Same here, and I feel the same.
CameraManRailFan I have seen your channel and it is true thunderbolt 1000 siren productions does all of his documentary’s better than yours
griffin rails never seen your channel
I remember this when I was a kid back in 1997
Next month, Paddington 20 years ago
I was born in 1997.
I was on this train! Was 18 at the time. Crazy blast from the past. I forget about it then it suddenly pops up in my mind once every few years and I remember how lucky I was to get out of this unscathed!
@@RF-jr1od My mum's bestfriend's brother died in the crash that day. I was very young when this happened but looking back at the incident now is heartbreaking. Not just a number, he was a brother, father, husband. With the force of the crash, it's incredible that most people were safe. You are a lucky one. I wish the very best for you.
@@olivianicholson8001 wow thank you for sharing that story. You're right, it was a complete tragedy. 💔
Very much appreciate seeing explanations for existing crash footage- cheers, and keep up the good work!
This is greatly appreciated and is really useful for my assignment on this rail crash. Very well made video!
Before I watch: Waiting to see how an American deals with the British signaling system and TOPS numbers. Can wait tbh
I just kept thinking "they are on the wrong (left) set of tracks, they are going to crash!"
Funny thing is BR took the inspiration for TOPS from the Southern Pacific.
I was 16 years old me and my dad and my neighbours saved a lot of people that day I will never forget this day R.I.P to the people that did not survive 🙏🙏🙏🙏
Your dad and neighbour are heroes 🦸♀️ long live for thm
please do more Trainwreck documentaries outside of the US! keep up the good work
You did the best job explaining
You're remarkably well informed, sir. Good vid.
Wow! What a wonderful tribute. I was actually on this train, I was only 18 at the time. I had a very near miss that day and a very weird experience with someone I swear was my guardian angel!
Yikes! 😬
That must've been a nightmare.
Thanks for making my dream of you posting this documentary come true! I wanted this video so bad! I wanted this since I was in your premieres. ;)
werido
@@longbar2344 I forgot I posted that comment a couple years ago. Now I see what you mean by that.
@@realrtot9138 lol
I love your channel! Keep up the good work, but the Chatsworth one is scary
Man, I remember as a kid standing on the platform when them 125s started off, the engine sound was crazy!!
Something I've noticed in your videos...September is like THE month for train accidents it seems.
Comforting considering I'll be travelling by train this month XD
Thanks for posting a new crash video
I really enjoy your documentaries.
Isn't the intercity 125 still in service on a few lines? I thought it just didn't go to London anymore, and that actual retirement was only around 2024.
It does still go to London, look at LNER.
I know that First Great Western ,now known as great western railway, still runs them as stoping trains from cardiff to exeter in shorter sets (4 coaches known as castle classes) but dont go to london paddington anymore. GWR has given Scotrail the HSTs they dont need anymore. LNER are also stoping services to london Kings Cross to allow space for their new azumas (class 800 by Hitachi).
I was amazed that the locomotive of the passenger train survived plowing straight through a locomotive and several train cars
It didn't plow through anything it more or less bounced off one of the hoppers and was derailed it continued upright and intact for several yards. It was the 2nd coach that plowed into it .
I forgot about this disastrous wreck, (mainly because I don’t live in UK) but dang... and may everyone involved rest In peace, great documentary!
Great Documentary, your documentaries have inspired me to maybe start doing similar videos about scandinavian train wrecks (mostly swedish). Of course i will in that case credit you as inspiration!
if you need some train wrecks to make videos about, I can help with finding some danish one
Im swedish and I didnt even know there were that much
Good video, and nice photo of our Australian osCAR Trains to explain ATP. All of our trains have ATP and not a single one in service doesn't have it from memory.
Noice episode. Top form as always!! Could u plz do the Harrow and Wealdstone Rail Disaster next?
I really like your documentarys
YES THANK YOU! I HAVE BEEN WAITING
Amazing work!
Yo hi from your channel
Great video and information 👍😀
“That’s not the Great Western Way!”
OH DEAR -Duck
Southalll wasn’t but Paddington was GWR
@@ooc115 r/woooooosh
SLIP COACHES literally
Suggestion: do the Indianola, Nebraska train wreck (number here) years later in May 2020.
Edit: Larry Harrison, not Larry Hamson.
Edit 2: i actually requested this.
Are you stupid its 2019
@@evertonblake7320 he makes videos only on the anniversary of the train wreck in the video.
@@evertonblake7320 Are you stupid
Gewel ✔ fuck off
Can you imagine bif it happens? Psychic or what?
I hear the weather is great in swaznea this time of year.
great video thunderbolt 1000 :)
Thunderbolt 1000, I just want to ask you something, to get a video or images of a wreck can't be that hard to find, but in some cases there is images of the actual engines, cars or hoppers involved in the crash, complete with number and all. Where do you get these from? And it must lake a lot of time and effort to do so. I appreciate the time and effort you put into all your videos, keep on doing that.
5:09
**says aws**
*𝙎𝙝𝙤𝙬𝙨 𝙩𝙥𝙬𝙨*
because if the aws is activated and the emergency brake is applied the tpws brake demand light illuminates.
Tpws introduced introduced in 1997 didn't have as many many locations as current.
The approved higher level of train warning systems on the Great Western lines in 1997 was ATP (advanced train protection) which is different to TPWS.
HST on the great western lines had ATP and AWS fitted but not TPWS.
2 years later a crash at Ladbrook grove London further up the line proved the need for ATP to be fitted to all trains in the uk but Train Operator Companies and the national rail operator ( at the time Railtrack , now Network Rail) decided that TPWS(train protection warning system) would be cheaper and easier for all concerned to fit to the system.
asha893 AWS and TPWS are still (mostly) separate systems
@@meesguyy TPWS piggy backs off the AWS. So if you isolate the AWS, you also lose TPWS. But if you isolate TPWS, the AWS will still be functioning.
I love your videos
Can you please do the 1999 Paddington Wreck
@@memyye No need to swear mate.
@@memyye how dare you swear on my minecraft server my dad works for minecraft
All of three boys are right
My father was meant to be on the HST from stroud, but slept in and missed it. So that was a relief
He ate marmalade sandwiches.
YEEEES THIS IS THE ONE I HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR A LONG TIME :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
also there was a lot of talk of the signals being really hard to read visually at that velocity, readable at best at maybe 250 meters, at full speed it would give the driver just four seconds to visually react to the signal, not very much time...
"All you had to do was follow the damn train, CJ!"
i remember this accident I was working for the Great Western train company at their call centre in cardiff and the message came in about the train i had seen that train departing Cardiff Central for Paddington and was wondering a friend of mine was part of the train crew but he was at home. My teamleader then asked me to work on to help out with the calls coming in
Great vid! Maybe the Selby Rail Crash would be a good one to do next?
Great as usual
Rest in Piece to everyone who lost their lives.
How about doing the Lewisham crash in 1957 or Hither Green 1967?
awesome video.
The guy running in the footage must be terrified. He wants to help, but cant.
I love the first song that plays. Reminds me of the old nes games. Love it.
Have a good holiday thunderbolt 1000 siren productions
you are so underrated collision, your videos are similar to Seconds from disaster, national geographic and Smithsonian
Only their narration is better
I went into a ship phase after watching a bunch of documentaries on them, now I'm watching train documentaries and I feel as though I'll get phased again...
i remember the Southall Train Collision alot of overhead cables came down that year
ONE OF MY FAVORITE VIDEOS TO WATCH I LOVE THIS VID I have seen a lot of stuff a lot and i watch a lot of history so yea I have seen some stuff and I used to watch a lot of scary stuff when i was young even one where i got hit by a train for goodness sake
that remark about the train hitting me that was a nightmare.
Where do you have that THIS VIDEO MAY BE DISTURBING ETC Soundtrack from?
Good luck on your trip , I lived in the area you will love it. Check out the sandwich shop across the street
I have fond memories of these trains from when I played trainz on mobile when I was like 7. Those were the days
Same here. F7s as far as the eye could see, Deltics, Class 37s, SD40-2s, it was the stuff.
Alegibly there were usable yards on the slow side of the main line into Paddington so there was no need for a slow freight to cross over from the 2 high speed up/down tracks to the 2 low speed up/down tracks.
BR/Railtrack and now Network Rail are trying to avoid this delay to HST's.
Freight trains crossing pathways of other trains is nothing new. IF the AWS - and by extension the HST driver - had been doing their job correctly, the HST would have slowed down and avoided the freight train. But alas, everything went wrong.
Next is Paddington/Ladbroke Grove. Truly a disastrous train wreck that.
Actual name is Ladbroke Grove, no idea why ppl call it the Padd wreck
Selby was also horrific too.
After that would probably be the 2004 Ufton - Nervent crash
@@griffinrails I knew the driver of that train, was a brilliant man
Good video, I love your choice of music! Where do you get it from?
This was in a year's late bit in a British railway news magazine called the railway magazine in one of the monthly issues
Note: the intercity 125 was/is the fastest diesel train in the world
0:37 THEY'RE STILL IN SERVICE
If anyone here was in the crash, I just wanna say God bless.
Great job
I remember the day in question I was in school unaware of the accident only found punt when the news came on but ironicly my great grandmother ( Grandfathers mother) & her sister lived on a street west of the station and the remember not hearing the collision but how quiet it was from 2pm and couldn't hear trains passing
Last night, I was looking at pictures of a certain engine with a "73" in it's number that was wrecked and scrapped, and then the next day, I get to see a video of the wreck of another engine with "73" within it's number... But no worry! The engine I was looking at, I'll get to see a video on the crash of in December!
Also, when it's time several months from now, can you please do the April 23rd 2002 Placentia, CA Head-On Collision?
Hey thunder I have a question did you use Jolly three chapter 2 dreams come true or something like that during the intro? Also here’s the timestamp 0:17
This actually had a clip of the crash thanks
Could you do the Harrow and Wieldstone crash from 1958? (Not to bug you or anything)
that one is panned
*1952, but I'd love to see that.
*Wealdstone
I'm pretty sure I've seen it in my YT recommendations :-)
Love your videos but just to let u know there are some class 43s (intercity 125's) left in service cross country has 1 or 2 and scotrail I think still have one after the latest incident with it
Nice video
In the early days of railways, to keep things simple and safe(ish) trains were classed, class 9 being the slowest, up to class 1 which were the fastest. The higher class was always given priority over the lower class. Too often, as here and at Harrow & Wealdstone , when that rule is broken calamity ensues.
Not sure if you take request, but could you do Crush, Texas? The date unfortunately passed since the accident happened on the 15th of September 1896, but I would like to hear your take on it.
An excellent video. ♡ T.E.N.
Swasnea :D Please do a documentary on the 12:07 from YouNork to Wanishington
This was an absolute tragedy, I read up about it
The CCTV just looks unreal
Indeed. It still stuns me to this day
Combining the best of both the accidents of harrow and wellstone and Ladbroke Grove(one of the drivers surviving with less than 47 casualties)
The Intercity 125 sets still run, although quite a lot have been withdrawn.
hope fully this train wreck does never happens again !
so what train wreck documentary are you going to do next?
Another great video. Keep it up...
@@memyye you don't have to rude for no reason.
@@trainfanjpt6056 Read the description to find your answer.
@@memyye wow man you don't need to be rude
@@texasgamer2148 oh ok show he's heading to strasburg. i think im heading to strasburg too. but i don't what day?
That CCTV camera footage is from a documentary and not real. Still give us an insight in to what happened.
It looked real to me.
Harrison La time traveler it’s a remake of real footage. You can tell because there’s stock train noises that were used in Thomas & Friends in the audio
Just 20 years ago it was wild when it came to any safety
If you can, can you do the Graniteville Accident? Your videos are truly the best and filled with details not given.
He's already done that.
Just letting you know the power locos are pronounced 43 1 7 3. 43 is the train type (in this case a class 43) and the last 3 digits is a unique number. A multiple unit in the UK have class ### then 3 digits
Amazing
I was acually in the fifth coatch on my trip at london.i was gonna go shopping at southall then this happend and i felt a big jump and shake and then the train stopped so fast. Thankfully i wassnt hurt that bad.
safety feature must always functioning before any start of operation
In the early days of these HST's, when it was permissible to run with ATP isolated, then a few old time drivers would tell you that running between Reading and Paddington then the occasional spurt from 125 to 140 MPH was nothing unusual.