Valve's Cancelled Half-Life: Opposing Force 2: Ravenholm - Everything Known

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    Today on Valve News Network, we take a look at the canceled episode for Half-Life 2, Return to Ravenholm, A.K.A Opposing Force 2. After the Orange Box in 2007, Valve quickly burned out on Half-Life and promptly canceled all indev Half-Life games in favor of what become Portal 2. One of those games was being produced by Arkane Studios, the people behind Dishonored, and put the player back in the shoes of Adrian Shepard, the protagonist of Opposing Force, and returning to Ravenholm. Let's go over everything I know about this canceled game, as well as walk viewers through the entire experience, as recounted by a person who just played it, Danny O'Dwyer, known for this work on NOCLIP.
    #halflife #ravenholm #arkane

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  • @TylerMcVicker1
    @TylerMcVicker1  4 года назад +525

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    • @clementh19
      @clementh19 4 года назад +3

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    • @ГОСПОДИНН
      @ГОСПОДИНН 4 года назад +4

      *WRITE TO GABE'S EMAIL / VALVE`S TWITTER THAT WE WANT TO SEE SHEPHARD*

    • @ГОСПОДИНН
      @ГОСПОДИНН 4 года назад +4

      *SHEPHARD, WE LOVE U*

    • @CaveyMoth
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    • @RoyalOps1222
      @RoyalOps1222 4 года назад +6

      Glad I didn't pay for your garbage

  • @volk1357
    @volk1357 4 года назад +1809

    "What if, I could offer you something you don't know you want?"
    *shows Opposing Force: Ravenholm*

    • @royliber3824
      @royliber3824 4 года назад +133

      "That is considerably a large nudge"

    • @FaultyTwo
      @FaultyTwo 4 года назад +97

      "Too large. Given the interest of my.. employers"

    • @purpleemerald5299
      @purpleemerald5299 4 года назад +54

      “Well, you asked.”

    • @ark_knight
      @ark_knight 4 года назад +34

      @@purpleemerald5299 "What if I give you VR instead"

    • @Skikopl
      @Skikopl 4 года назад +15

      *grabs suitcase*

  • @WallaceMoura
    @WallaceMoura 4 года назад +3764

    One day, we'll see you again Adrian Shephard... one day...

    • @PowerUpT
      @PowerUpT 4 года назад +109

      Maybe even Mitchell Shephard as well.

    • @koheletcalaforexclan6508
      @koheletcalaforexclan6508 4 года назад +70

      Here’s hoping they’re including in the next Halflife, it would be nice,

    • @doctorplace7302
      @doctorplace7302 4 года назад +10

      Oh yeah him

    • @dpixp
      @dpixp 4 года назад +41

      and also the cremator!
      2 times the cremator got cut out of the game.

    • @SoleNero21
      @SoleNero21 4 года назад +8

      I just wanna see John Shepard again

  • @Faurded
    @Faurded 4 года назад +1106

    The thought of Grigori turning into a monster creeped me out and saddened me at the same time

    • @randomcatdude
      @randomcatdude 4 года назад +84

      I think that was their intention.

    • @Gustronic
      @Gustronic 4 года назад +104

      @@azertwarrior2167 and that's why his death is so much better. since he died by his own mistake instead of dying by being ambushed by zombies.

    • @Masterwar15
      @Masterwar15 4 года назад +144

      Honestly I didn't really think it went well with his character. I see him like this priest that, while clearly mentally affected by his current lifestyle, it's extremely faithful to his god, honest, and would risk his life to save any random stranger he finds. I really don't see him like the kind of person that would hide the fact that he was turning himself into a monster, risking someone else's life, nor do I see him like the kind of guy that would be making homemade vaccines lol

    • @Dubbadee124
      @Dubbadee124 4 года назад +77

      @@Masterwar15 agreed, he's an eastern european priest that lost his mind, not some scientist

    • @IggyStardust1967
      @IggyStardust1967 4 года назад +30

      @@Masterwar15 Actually, it would work perfectly if you think about it. A lot of people throughout history who have become "evil", actually believe they are "good". The turn from good to evil can be slow, and if the chemicals/DNA from the experiments affect him gradually... he may not even realize that the change is taking place. In the realm of storytelling, changes like that take place in a condensed time frame, because of the limited time the audience spends with the characters. To the "in world" character, that time differential is reality based. The events the audience sees take place over 2-3 hours from start to finish, but for the character, it could be in months, or even years.
      I would pay good money for a game like this. It's interesting, different, yet still holds with what we already know about the "Half Life" world.

  • @clearsky4049
    @clearsky4049 4 года назад +2370

    God this game was so much beyond its time. Its radiating staggering amounts of Half-Life spirit. My admiration towards Arcane Studios have gone up dramatically since Noclip broke the story.
    Valve did Arcane real dirty though.

    • @sintes88
      @sintes88 4 года назад +53

      How was this game beyond its time? We've already had System Shock and Deus Ex which both had better ideas and then BioShock would have very much surpassed this when it came out in 2007.

    • @Karma-zf6su
      @Karma-zf6su 4 года назад +101

      It would be an amazing Half-Life game for sure, everything looks so fresh comparing to half-life 2

    • @XeZrunner
      @XeZrunner 4 года назад +31

      They must have cancelled it because it was so good...

    • @Zorklis
      @Zorklis 4 года назад +13

      It's Arkane

    • @GratingApes
      @GratingApes 4 года назад +6

      Can someone please change valves mind to tell
      Arkane to make this game again.

  • @zck2020
    @zck2020 4 года назад +2819

    Damn, what a wasted gem of a game.

    • @lautaroguzman4178
      @lautaroguzman4178 4 года назад +40

      (Bad english)
      The only thing that feels off are some assets that dont fit the hl2 style

    • @chielwouterscw
      @chielwouterscw 4 года назад +145

      @@lautaroguzman4178 Well... it wasn't finished yet so maybe these things you refer to wouldn't have been in the final game.

    • @lautaroguzman4178
      @lautaroguzman4178 4 года назад +10

      @@chielwouterscw probably

    • @nutzeeer
      @nutzeeer 4 года назад +6

      if only we could make them release it..

    • @Journey_to_who_knows
      @Journey_to_who_knows 4 года назад +8

      We need to make a deal with the Gman, give him all the rappers and he’ll bring back the game, only problem is summoning him.

  • @toainsully
    @toainsully 4 года назад +893

    NGL, this cancelled Half-Life game looks really good

    • @toainsully
      @toainsully 4 года назад +2

      @Kemm Miarvil @SoggyMicrowavenuggets And to all those who viewed, thanks for 100 likes!

    • @neonsolace2748
      @neonsolace2748 4 года назад +17

      @Kemm Miarvil what about half life alyx ? I think they did a good job on it, a nice return for half life fans

    • @naturesquad9174
      @naturesquad9174 4 года назад +1

      @@neonsolace2748 Normie HL fans don't know about HL:Alyx yet

    • @dkskcjfjswwwwwws413
      @dkskcjfjswwwwwws413 4 года назад +5

      @@naturesquad9174 normie hl fans are still yelling hello gordon passport soda ropes, god when will hlvrai die out, it brought so many annoying people.

    • @gianni50725
      @gianni50725 3 года назад +5

      @3D Modeller
      It’s a spin-off game. I wouldn’t mind it feeling different from other Half-Life games. In fact, they probably did that on purpose.

  • @brock2460
    @brock2460 4 года назад +760

    This seemed such an amazing game with a very interesting plot, having both Gregori and most importantly Shepard return would've been so cool to see and play

    • @sintes88
      @sintes88 4 года назад +24

      It's interesting but the plot seems like a fan fiction - it doesn't fit the world and it's rather predictable. It's no wonder Valve canned the game.

    • @Gogglesofkrome
      @Gogglesofkrome 4 года назад +49

      @@sintes88 it's only 'predictable' because of the fact that it's an obvious loose end. It has literally nothing to do with fanfictions unless you mean to say that it's written with the quality of one. Portal doesn't fit the themes of the half life setting, and yet they still share the same universe; It too follows predictable 'evil antagonist AI that takes over facility and kills all humans except for a few' trope as well, but of course this doesn't necessitate that it be bad.

    • @SuperCatfire
      @SuperCatfire 4 года назад +2

      the plot is retarded but thats not why i played arkane's other games to begin with anyway

    • @SuperCatfire
      @SuperCatfire 4 года назад +1

      ​@@Gogglesofkrome ur arguments dont even make sense. portal doesnt even take place in the same place at the same time as half life, ur just making disingenuous comparisons bc u dont wanna believe the plot is stupid

    • @warriorbricks6424
      @warriorbricks6424 4 года назад +6

      fleshmeat they’re in the same universe

  • @JblockerJ
    @JblockerJ 4 года назад +1017

    It's really disappointing that this was canceled.

    • @livingghost5930
      @livingghost5930 4 года назад +17

      Freaking Disney ruins everything

    • @TheVampireFishQueen
      @TheVampireFishQueen 4 года назад +8

      @Kemm Miarvil Well it seems they have respect for the fans now since half life alyx came out.

    • @bobohogo4762
      @bobohogo4762 4 года назад +17

      @Kemm Miarvil how the fuck dont they have respect for fans?

    • @sike3228
      @sike3228 4 года назад +11

      @@bobohogo4762 they cancelled lots of games either because they were bored of the title or miss management

    • @nono7117
      @nono7117 4 года назад +10

      Zhander Drake ah yes, blue shift added so much new things

  • @TheEngieTF2
    @TheEngieTF2 4 года назад +514

    I knew Shepard wasn't forgotten

    • @despe954
      @despe954 4 года назад +37

      Put dispenser here

    • @pepealasquid6005
      @pepealasquid6005 4 года назад +12

      Man opposing force was good, why couldn’t we see him again.

    • @michaelgmr60
      @michaelgmr60 4 года назад +1

      Put a sentry here

    • @nurshuhadahanilamusu7983
      @nurshuhadahanilamusu7983 3 года назад +3

      I think Adrian Shepard is a threat to Gordon Freeman... If yes it will be awesome if they meet face to face and have a hand to hand combat

    • @HyperrealisticLuigi
      @HyperrealisticLuigi 3 года назад +2

      @Darth ScoutBonnie don't bring that non canon thing up

  • @CrraVideos
    @CrraVideos 4 года назад +1817

    Opposing force: ravenholm?
    More like
    Hunt down the Cancelled HL game

    • @squarehead6452
      @squarehead6452 4 года назад +4

      Why no replies (well now there is I guess)

    • @olzhas1one755
      @olzhas1one755 4 года назад +8

      @@squarehead6452 because this meme makes no sense

    • @cloroxhammer3289
      @cloroxhammer3289 4 года назад +8

      Haha, Hunt Down The Freeman joke! So funny.
      I personally think HDTF jokes are just too old now and are not funny anymore.

    • @Luka2000_
      @Luka2000_ 4 года назад +24

      @@cloroxhammer3289 then leave

    • @CrraVideos
      @CrraVideos 4 года назад +3

      @@cloroxhammer3289 Thanks for that

  • @civilprotection3114
    @civilprotection3114 4 года назад +201

    “It’s so old now I don’t see a reason why they don’t realest it” I’d wish Valve thought like that.

  • @DeepseaOddities
    @DeepseaOddities 4 года назад +489

    Amazing video Tyler! But I'm dying to know now...what on earth did *Gearbox* pitch to Valve? Surely they must've wanted a go at bringing their own Shephard back as well!

    • @_knightsbane_3615
      @_knightsbane_3615 4 года назад +6

      hey im subbed (:

    • @DeepseaOddities
      @DeepseaOddities 4 года назад +9

      @@_knightsbane_3615 Hello friend, what else lurks within the abyss? :)

    • @MadIvano
      @MadIvano 3 года назад +20

      Who knows, gearbox and valve did not depart on the best of terms after half life 1.

    • @GENOSAD
      @GENOSAD 2 года назад +1

      @@DeepseaOddities
      HL3, probably.

    • @kevintired
      @kevintired 2 года назад

      @daniel strong | same

  • @kptparker
    @kptparker 4 года назад +310

    Trully Valve is strange company, they do make good games once in blue moon, yet at same time they are able to cancel anything out of whim. This shows that they cancelled HL titles not do to financiel reasons but as if they got bored and wanted something diffrent...
    Love them or hate them, you gotta agree there is no other company like it.

    • @Omariau
      @Omariau 4 года назад +41

      One of the few companies that is not accountable to anyone, neither shareholders, neither private investors. Like it or hate it indeed, they might have not been able to do what they did otherwise.

    • @coajdka
      @coajdka 4 года назад +2

      a bit like Lil Uzi in music

    • @OXY187
      @OXY187 4 года назад +25

      They don't because they don't need to. Valve owns steam. That's a lot of money already.

  • @S1nwar
    @S1nwar 4 года назад +577

    the gameplay is so friggin creative

    • @CaveyMoth
      @CaveyMoth 4 года назад +8

      It reminds me of Bioshock combined with AvP.

    • @tnt070
      @tnt070 4 года назад +7

      the map design on the other hand is amateurish and the developers must have not played the original Opposing Force.

    • @Armin2012
      @Armin2012 4 года назад +26

      You cant call it amateurish when it was never finished

    • @tnt070
      @tnt070 4 года назад +4

      @@Armin2012 guess you're right. can't judge a game or a mod just from it's concepts

    • @lorenzodhernandes
      @lorenzodhernandes 4 года назад +19

      Vault Dweller I doubt they were complete considering most games made by arkane are level design masterpieces

  • @TheBlackRose666
    @TheBlackRose666 4 года назад +387

    ok this.. this is incredible. this game was utilizing the source engine to the MAX. i honestly think the electricity puzzles were amazing. everything looked soo well done. i would have loved to have the zombies in this game be in the main game. i really hope someone makes a mod recreating this.

    • @olzhas1one755
      @olzhas1one755 4 года назад +5

      Well given how much we know now it could be possible

    • @Zorklis
      @Zorklis 4 года назад +17

      What are you talking about, it looks pretty decent at best, nothing MAX, games like l4d2, Portal 2,CSGO; Titanfall games or Apex Legends use it to a better extent.

    • @TheBlackRose666
      @TheBlackRose666 4 года назад +31

      This game had a new unseen electricity physics, crazy smooth animations smoother than the ones we have now and a really good storyline. My point is that this would have been released in 2006 to 2007. The fact that the source engine utelized all the features seen on video at that early of development is incredible. Apex legends was released when source was almost finished

    • @lartts7483
      @lartts7483 4 года назад

      @@TheBlackRose666 True

    • @lartts7483
      @lartts7483 4 года назад +10

      @@Zorklis Do you know how years work? Half-Life 1 was basically the best game ever for it's time. Now of course there are better games but this is now, HL1 was years ago.

  • @commenter_HIMIK-MAN
    @commenter_HIMIK-MAN 4 года назад +344

    12:58 They *nailed* this whole section.

    • @CaveyMoth
      @CaveyMoth 4 года назад +27

      I was electrified.

    • @cavana.341
      @cavana.341 4 года назад +20

      How shocking

    • @Gogglesofkrome
      @Gogglesofkrome 4 года назад +12

      A joke like this is not something I want hammered into my head.

    • @MyScorpion42
      @MyScorpion42 4 года назад +4

      @@Gogglesofkrome If you don't care for puns, you should bolt

    • @EliteFreeman
      @EliteFreeman 4 года назад +1

      ​@@MyScorpion42 something tells me you didnt get the joke? well maybe thats just me... nvm me, carry on with your work

  • @grahoulord
    @grahoulord 4 года назад +203

    I don't know why I watch this video because this hurt me more about the fact that will be never releasing

    • @mvnkycheez
      @mvnkycheez 4 года назад

      They really really did

    • @lemonov3031
      @lemonov3031 3 года назад +5

      If they released the assets online, I can almost guarantee that some fan team of modders will make it into a full game.

  • @greenbean2222
    @greenbean2222 4 года назад +287

    Valve did Arkane stupidly dirty. This is amazing.

  • @mine_stone2495
    @mine_stone2495 4 года назад +379

    "Hostless zombies"? I'm pretty sure you mean "Parasite-less zombies" as the host is the human itself

    • @Badgerinary
      @Badgerinary 4 года назад +9

      Yeah I think they mean headcrabs

    • @Nikotheleepic
      @Nikotheleepic 4 года назад +6

      Yeah which makes no sense even correctly stated

    • @naturesquad9174
      @naturesquad9174 4 года назад +5

      Both make no sense

    • @lartts7483
      @lartts7483 4 года назад +8

      @@Nikotheleepic Did you watch the video, the zombies are humans that got vaccinated by Gregori's terrible vax cure thingy.

    • @Nikotheleepic
      @Nikotheleepic 4 года назад +16

      @@lartts7483 sounds completely out of world and doesn't fit with the other games as a result

  • @oskar3897
    @oskar3897 4 года назад +94

    Remember when Mike Shapiro said "be prepared for a blast from the past later this year"?

    • @legodmais
      @legodmais 4 года назад +10

      One can hope.

    • @swpenguin
      @swpenguin 4 года назад +30

      Ricochet 2

    • @nathanielwindsor7679
      @nathanielwindsor7679 4 года назад +12

      Deathmatch classic 2

    • @Apieceofcakeshere
      @Apieceofcakeshere 4 года назад +19

      He also was asked in an interview about the same "Blast from the past" Half-Life project and he said "Do you have a buddy you haven't seen in a long time, and you barely think you'll see that person again, maybe?" and this haven't left my mind for a long time. I'm literally shaking.

    • @starpaladinnelaj
      @starpaladinnelaj 3 года назад

      Well, they dont have long to announce it

  • @vuzz5728
    @vuzz5728 4 года назад +543

    >chapter 1
    >chapter 2
    >chapter 4
    Lol

    • @alialatrach9788
      @alialatrach9788 4 года назад +22

      And I felt like I "chapter 3" didn't appear, I thought taht I just forgot and didn't notice that we are already in chapter 4.

    • @Gooboo_
      @Gooboo_ 4 года назад +59

      Its valve, 3 doesn't exist.

    • @SonNguyen-kj8jv
      @SonNguyen-kj8jv 4 года назад +4

      Chapter 4 is just a nickname

    • @PalaceDude
      @PalaceDude 4 года назад +7

      I really didn't catch that joke at first lol I wish he named it Chapter 2 episode 1 or Chapter Alyx.

    • @Olterior
      @Olterior 4 года назад +5

      1, 2, Alyx,4,5....

  • @Drawliphant
    @Drawliphant 4 года назад +33

    A ton of the concepts from this game seem like they ended up in Dishonored. Electrical traps, zombie, melee combat, spike grenades. The discovery of where a plague came from.

  • @DarkShade1337
    @DarkShade1337 4 года назад +73

    Such a shame this game was never fully created. Arkane Studios is such a talented developer.

    • @Daburubareru
      @Daburubareru 2 года назад

      Ravenholm looked promising D:

  • @breakdancegoose1005
    @breakdancegoose1005 4 года назад +40

    "That day at least 4 Half-Life games died", OOF, that hurts deep inside me

  • @biggayonmain
    @biggayonmain 4 года назад +50

    “I think it was ‘Unwellcome Company’ but they spelled Unwelcome wrong”
    oh my god.....it’s not spelled wrong like a typo...it’s a pun.......that’s so good

    • @ghhn4505
      @ghhn4505 3 года назад +1

      Wait, it was spelled "Unwellcome" or "Unwelcome?" I feel like I'm missing the pun.

    • @richardlionerheart1945
      @richardlionerheart1945 2 года назад +4

      @@ghhn4505 unwell as in feeling un well

    • @Th3Espr3ss0
      @Th3Espr3ss0 2 года назад

      Oh thats really good forshadowing for how it ends too.

  • @MondySpartan
    @MondySpartan 4 года назад +82

    Imagine Shephard making a surprise return in the next Half-Life installment.

    • @royliber3824
      @royliber3824 4 года назад +11

      Well at this point if this game is cancelled, Valve GOTTA show us something of Adrian in the next game... The guy is literally one man army. He is that one character that everyone adore for being a badass and stop for nothing.

    • @damsen978
      @damsen978 4 года назад +11

      So... Half-Life: Shepard?
      VR exclusive with slow ass paced gameplay?
      No thank you, what made the original Opposing Force so successful in the first place was the exact opposite, the fast paced action scenes with badass weaponry and military soundtrack music, there were BARELY any puzzles to do UNLIKE the original game. And this horror themed version of this would have been more interesting for sure, but regular zombies without headcrabs? That would be going back to formula, that's a thing for Left 4 Dead. I'd rather stick with the military vibe, mostly as an answer to show what happened with the HECU after the Black Mesa incident.
      Would be awesome to play as Shepard and survive against the Combine during the 7-hour war, and have him die with a sad but powerful ending, kind of like we see in Halo: Reach with number 6.

    • @MondySpartan
      @MondySpartan 4 года назад +9

      @Dam Sen Unless you’re joking, I’m NOT saying it should be on VR.

    • @damsen978
      @damsen978 4 года назад +1

      @@MondySpartan I'm not joking, and i haven't said you said it should be on VR. But since you said "surprise return" in this current time, you know Valve is now making Half-Life for VR. So that's why i said what i said, not that you said it should be on VR.

    • @kakokapolei123
      @kakokapolei123 4 года назад +3

      I saw this comment on another video and thought it was a pretty cool idea, but imagine if G-man sent Adrian Shephard out to protect him from Gordon Freeman and Eli Vance following the events of Half-Life: Alyx

  • @Armin2012
    @Armin2012 4 года назад +51

    Well half life community, you’ve got the foundation for a pretty neat opposing force 2 game. You’ve got a plot, characters, and even a rough description of the gameplay locations. You all know what you need to do

    • @TheCoolEevee
      @TheCoolEevee 2 года назад +7

      Exactly, that’s my reaction!

  • @minermemecoffee8256
    @minermemecoffee8256 4 года назад +27

    Arcane Developers: *Make a wonderful game full of witty humor and that genuinely feels like half life*
    Valve: Skidaddle Skidoodle, your game is now a noodle.
    Some half-drunk guy stealing assets: *Makes a half-broken game that everyone hates*
    Valve: **I'LL TAKE YOUR ENTIRE STOCK**

    • @whscy
      @whscy 3 года назад

      Wait what was the game

    • @GreenIsMyPepper
      @GreenIsMyPepper 3 года назад +1

      @@whscy hunt down the freeman

  • @duckfilms3662
    @duckfilms3662 4 года назад +83

    I kinda hate this video because all of the stuff your talking about sounds like it would be SUPER cool to play, but we never will. :(

  • @SCOTGamingwithJack
    @SCOTGamingwithJack 4 года назад +127

    We better get our homie adrian back for **The New Half Life 3** meeting with Gordon, eli, d0g and Russell (i hope)

    • @frabjouspolygon2695
      @frabjouspolygon2695 4 года назад +22

      And resurrection of Lazlo.

    • @rey4874
      @rey4874 4 года назад +7

      @@frabjouspolygon2695 and can cop returning as an ally

    • @mellaniemellbourne7050
      @mellaniemellbourne7050 4 года назад +8

      And BARNEY MAYBE?!

    • @SCOTGamingwithJack
      @SCOTGamingwithJack 4 года назад

      @@forgotmyname1242 i thought he was confirmed dead in Ep1

    • @dogboy0912
      @dogboy0912 4 года назад +1

      What if he cameos as a regular resistance member but kills everything and can't die. "Hey Shephard, help Gordon out."

  • @ScruffyGamerAnimations
    @ScruffyGamerAnimations 4 года назад +42

    so Valve pulled the plug on Half-Life for over 10 years due to boredom.
    That's severe bull. Screw you Valve.

    • @marsmurderer9868
      @marsmurderer9868 3 года назад +3

      I'd say also Source 2's development, but it's also entirely possible that was just an excuse

  • @Vienna3080
    @Vienna3080 4 года назад +39

    I wish Arkane would just release this build of the game to the public

    • @EnclaveSOC-102
      @EnclaveSOC-102 3 года назад +6

      They probably can't since they don't own most of the assets they used in this build.

  • @willofthebossv1663
    @willofthebossv1663 4 года назад +136

    we need an Alyx sequel. Half-Life: Shephard

    • @Dunkskins
      @Dunkskins 4 года назад +2

      beat me to it!

    • @dkskcjfjswwwwwws413
      @dkskcjfjswwwwwws413 4 года назад +9

      So.... opposing force 2

    • @therealbubble4696
      @therealbubble4696 4 года назад +10

      What we really want is Half-Life: Laszlo

    • @themrfives
      @themrfives 4 года назад

      This comment is funnier if you read Shepard in the voice that the hecu marines say it.

    • @MugenHeadNinja
      @MugenHeadNinja 4 года назад

      @@dkskcjfjswwwwwws413 Opposing Force 2 in VR.

  • @NoelCav
    @NoelCav 4 года назад +13

    8:24 Damn, he used the nailgun to pin a zombie's foot down. I don't know why I find that so impressive.

    • @DocTime56
      @DocTime56 4 года назад +4

      For what would've been a 2007-2008 game, it IS pretty impressive

  • @potatoman_48
    @potatoman_48 4 года назад +77

    3:12 - Chapter One Unwelcome Company
    6:11 - Chapter Two Uncle Gragori's Electrical Nightmare
    11:04 - Chapter Four Enter Dan-Man

    • @cambreaKer
      @cambreaKer 4 года назад +7

      wait, where's chapter 3?

    • @ballbonkrs6688
      @ballbonkrs6688 4 года назад +11

      @@cambreaKer Exactly.

    • @potatoman_48
      @potatoman_48 4 года назад +7

      @@cambreaKer there is no chapter 3

    • @EliteFreeman
      @EliteFreeman 4 года назад +8

      @@cambreaKer we dont do that here

    • @Zero-ek2wr
      @Zero-ek2wr 4 года назад +5

      There's no 3 if it's valve

  • @alialatrach9788
    @alialatrach9788 4 года назад +46

    Back in 2014 when I first played HL2, I heard Grigori mention the name "Shepherd", at first I thought he meant Shephard himself and the fact they both met before Gordon arrives at Ravenholm but that wasn't the case, 6 years later I discover a cancelled HL game where they both do meet and work together!

  • @Loopy1330
    @Loopy1330 4 года назад +74

    Opposing Force 2's story arc and fate for Father Grigori would have been one of the saddest moments in the entire Half-Life series, hands down.

  • @Luka2000_
    @Luka2000_ 4 года назад +18

    It's really a bummer that it was scrapped. The idea is so good! Just the pictures and drawings of infected grigori is really cool but it's gone sadly :(

  • @flowmastaflam
    @flowmastaflam 4 года назад +24

    Opposing Force and Blue Shift were some of my favorite games alongside Half Life. It was super cool to play through the story from totally different perspectives, sometimes through the eyes of an individual you only saw in passing during the regular game. Imagine a GMan spinoff where you just walk around being a nuisance and saying a bunch of r/im14andthisisdeep one liners to some poor hero trying to save the world.

  • @averagechadlegionary5824
    @averagechadlegionary5824 11 месяцев назад +2

    This sounds like it would’ve been an awesome little short story within the HL universe and it would be nice to see Shepard return.

  • @frozendino6852
    @frozendino6852 4 года назад +32

    Not exactly a fan of the hostless zombies, but everything else looks amazing

    • @JR4996
      @JR4996 4 года назад +3

      need more work, they look's like a pre release of l4d

    • @Morgipit
      @Morgipit 3 года назад +8

      there shirts literally say placeholders on them

  • @catfree
    @catfree 3 года назад +3

    I love how the sponsers are in the Speculation catagory

  • @wrensey_YT
    @wrensey_YT 4 года назад +5

    Remember when we could of had a Team Fortresses 2 series on adult swim but valve didn't communicate with adult swim so it was scrapped?
    I think about it every day

    • @fishsticks8198
      @fishsticks8198 4 года назад +1

      You said it bro, that could've been a total disaster. Thank god they never produced that garbage man, shit would've been retarded.

    • @ANGER2077
      @ANGER2077 4 года назад +2

      Expiration date was going to be the pilot for the show though...

  • @gloveman0
    @gloveman0 4 года назад +37

    Besides F-Stop and Stars of Blood I think this is the 3rd biggest disappointment. Would've loved to play this.

    • @Aycheffe
      @Aycheffe 4 года назад +1

      first biggest disappointment is episode 3, then this, then Fstop and SoB in my opinion

    • @n_core
      @n_core 4 года назад +7

      There's also a bunch of cancelled games mentioned in the HL:Alyx The Final Hours such as A.R.T.I, SimTrek, RPG, L4D3, but I think the biggest disappointment is actually this since it's made by 3rd party development.

    • @user-tzzglsstle585e38
      @user-tzzglsstle585e38 4 года назад

      I think you should all watch a video called "Half-life finally got Meta" to understand Valve's perspective first, it might help you understand something

    • @gloveman0
      @gloveman0 4 года назад +2

      @@user-tzzglsstle585e38 I've understood their motive and how they work for years. They still made the wrong call canceling Episode 3, F-Stop and Ravenholm.

    • @Crowbar
      @Crowbar 4 года назад

      You don't even really know what F-Stop or Stars of Blood really was. You just like the sound of it.

  • @ГОСПОДИНН
    @ГОСПОДИНН 4 года назад +37

    *SHEPHARD, WE LOVE U*

  • @Grim_Pinata
    @Grim_Pinata 4 года назад +12

    Valve (during their prime) and Arkane (still in their prime) are two of my favourite developers ever. Both have a penchant for super-polished, super tightly-designed games in unique settings that innovate greatly in their respective genres.
    So seeing this game's unfinished state and hearing of how it fell apart is such a huge lost opportunity. Could you IMAGINE if this game was a success and Arkane and Valve, with the former's experience with highly systemic gameplay and amazing level design and the latter's trademark polish and and humour?
    A shame they never worked together again.

  • @pinkydem0n38
    @pinkydem0n38 4 года назад +48

    Someone needs to do a fan remake of Arkane's Eisode 4 (similarly to Black Mesa). That would be really good.

  • @bucklinspring
    @bucklinspring 4 года назад +42

    Opposing Force 2!

  • @maximoberbotto1324
    @maximoberbotto1324 4 года назад +29

    Last time I was this early, Half Life 2: Episode 3 was still in development.

    • @davibaggicorreia
      @davibaggicorreia 4 года назад

      Who cares, that development it was cancelled anyways.
      we don't need that, we have own community making own half life 3.

    • @maisuradzedaniel1489
      @maisuradzedaniel1489 4 года назад +1

      Episode 3 won't be out, there is no 3 if it is valve.

    • @davibaggicorreia
      @davibaggicorreia 4 года назад

      @@maisuradzedaniel1489 Perhaps it has another team working on.

  • @melvinbenson4316
    @melvinbenson4316 4 года назад +18

    Insane to see THAT many assets sitting in a source 2 level at once tbh.

    • @ELTABULLO
      @ELTABULLO 4 года назад +7

      This is source one, source 2 is the one used in Alyx

  • @VOKZEL
    @VOKZEL 4 года назад +16

    Episodic games would've been disastrous for the industry if they became the norm. We would've been stuck with bad graphics on the same engine for years before a proper sequel, without real change, similar to Call of Duty.

    • @Appletank8
      @Appletank8 4 года назад +5

      They're basically DLC, just Valve time'd

    • @VOKZEL
      @VOKZEL 4 года назад +1

      @@Appletank8 Kind of, but they were pushed out like they were brand new games which they weren't.

    • @Nikotheleepic
      @Nikotheleepic 4 года назад +1

      Source games are still played 14 years later so

    • @Nikotheleepic
      @Nikotheleepic 4 года назад

      It's not as if it matters

    • @VOKZEL
      @VOKZEL 4 года назад +4

      @@Nikotheleepic But those are acrual different games. I'm talking about releasing a game in the same series over and over without improving the engine or graphics, gaming would have stagnated significantly. There's a big difference between Left 4 Dead 2 and Half Life 2, they are totally different games, they just share the same engine.

  • @scoople6
    @scoople6 4 года назад +2

    Man I knew so little about this project and to see all the heart that went into it and to hear the story and see the gameplay... man what a trip, it would've been an AMAZING edition to the HL series if it was given the time to finish. It's so sad. Thanks for bringing this whole story to your channel it's the kind of stuff I love. I now have another piece of head canon to flesh out the half life lore!
    What really struck me was the punching mechanic and how the zombies reacted. It looks physics based, but they still seem to react against it in a way that looks very real. Like in one shot a zombie gets knocked back, and with ragdoll momentum spin around, then the zombie swings back at you wildly and seems to pull itself around with it's own physics based momentum. I've never seen anything that good. The closest I can think of is GTA4 but even their "living ragdoll" isn't nearly as good.

  • @keddiels9843
    @keddiels9843 4 года назад +4

    It's cool to see a lot of Dishonored's art style in Ravenholm, especially the windmill generator things!

  • @odinatra
    @odinatra 4 года назад +2

    Back in the day when Gabe said that we'll see Shephard again, he was referring to this game

    • @Apieceofcakeshere
      @Apieceofcakeshere 4 года назад

      What about now? Is the HL team planning a return for Adrian? 😔

  • @Dharien
    @Dharien 4 года назад +3

    I played the shit out of Opposing Force back in the day and it is still one of my favorite expansions of all time. Opposing force was a fresh take on the Black Mesa incident, but instead of all the science stuff you had more of a military vibe going on, with the arsenal and the "squad mechanics." You got to play as one of those bad ass HECU grunts after all.
    With that, I don't see why they had to bring in Adrian for this expansion. All the stuff they created for this expansion is phenomenal and it is a really big shame this expansion got cancelled.
    But I can't really see Adrian being this electricity bolt wielding zombie killer. I mean you could play as any regular civilian and the expansion story would not lose anything, you don't have any military grade grunt weapons, night vision goggles or anything.
    To be honest I can't really see a scenario in this current Half Life timeline where Adrian would fit as any other than a fan service. Opposing Force was cool because of the setting (playing as a military grunt instead of some scruffy scientist) and that setting is now gone.
    Maybe Valve has kept Adrian in limbo for this very reason, who knows.

  • @S1nwar
    @S1nwar 4 года назад +17

    why would the Gman send shepard to something this small-scale?

    • @pigeonheadedman5225
      @pigeonheadedman5225 4 года назад +11

      His contractors

    • @Catboi9000
      @Catboi9000 4 года назад +16

      Maybe because Gregori was an important person and he was also dying and turning, maybe Shepard was sent there to kill Gregori after Gregori has turned even though Shepard doesn't know what's going on with Gregori yet.

    • @1FenFen1
      @1FenFen1 4 года назад +1

      yes

    • @Catboi9000
      @Catboi9000 4 года назад +10

      After thought: remember how Shepard, Freeman and Barney were almost always commiting genocide? Freeman and Xen Controller flying fetuses and the Combine, Shepard and Race X, so on, well maybe Shepard was also sent to clean up the failed experiments of Gregori too.

    • @Mistheart101
      @Mistheart101 4 года назад +4

      needed some space in his fridge

  • @NANOTECHYT
    @NANOTECHYT 4 года назад +17

    Man, I love the disintegration effect of the zombies. Definitely a carry over by Arkane Studios into Dishonored.

    • @BenG6509
      @BenG6509 2 года назад

      I like the zombie test monkeys

  • @foe4675
    @foe4675 4 года назад +6

    Imagine fighting in Black Mesa then getting teleported somewhere by the mysterious G - Man and would've been fighting against Xen Creatures ( You would also just discover the combine and the Xen taking over. )
    Also, It's really sad and disapointing seeing Valve cancel these Projects. They could've been a big hit on the company ngl.

  • @elitely6748
    @elitely6748 3 года назад +3

    It's sad though because I really wanted to see what happened to Adrian Sheperd. Guess he'll have to continue vibing alone. *We'll see you soon Corporal Adrian Sheperd*

  • @gametron5917
    @gametron5917 4 года назад +3

    This looks like it would’ve been an awesome Half-Life game!
    Only gripe I have with it in terms of story is that I find it hard to imagine Father Grigori being ‘sane’ enough to perform these elaborate experiments, especially if this takes place after ‘We Don’t go to Ravenholn’. Asides from that, I would’ve loved to see this game get released!

  • @Arjun-eb1yc
    @Arjun-eb1yc 4 года назад +3

    This looks like it had amazing potential. Even moving the gameplay forward more than the HL1 expansions did back in the day.
    Great journalism Tyler!

  • @TheHippyProductions
    @TheHippyProductions 3 года назад +2

    I love that this would've fit perfectly in the canon, too. If Gregori made a vaccine, a tool in the Combine's arsenal would be made useless, which might cause the Combine to resort to more drastic measures, which might throw a wrench in whatever G-Man's employers are planning, so it makes sense that G-Man would resort to using Shepard. It even makes sense that all G-Man had to do was throw Shepard into the general area and let Gregori succumb on his own with Shepard there for insurance in his defeat when he does so the whole incident is isolated.

  • @ChrisMathers3501
    @ChrisMathers3501 4 года назад +6

    Much as I respect Valve's creative vision, and as much as I can forgive following the release of Half-Life: Alyx...fuck it. I say Valve OWES us this. And not just those of us in the community. They owe it to the developers. Damn right I want to see this get the release it deserves.

    • @Dr_Dan_
      @Dr_Dan_ 3 года назад

      Indeed, but as a different game, because *this* Have nothing half life or opposing force related to it, there's a lot of why's and just weird setting design that have nothing to do with HL

    • @ChrisMathers3501
      @ChrisMathers3501 3 года назад

      @@Dr_Dan_ Well...of course. But I mean that's just because what we're looking at is essentially in-development assets and placeholders. All the meat, none of the potatoes. Oh and this is nothing compared to what I've learned since I saw this.
      They canceled an even better game than this back in the Half-Life ONE days. If you've never heard of a canceled Half-Life game called Hostile Takeover you should look it up. It had a better plot than any of the other expansion packs and that INCLUDES Opposing Force, and I do NOT say that lightly.

    • @Dr_Dan_
      @Dr_Dan_ 3 года назад

      @@ChrisMathers3501 yes of course it's unfinished, but if not to stop the car it'll Still move in the same direction, + it was developed in a crisis time and the industry were feeled with lots of zombie games. it's just have nothing to do with HL or OF at all, and can be released as something else

    • @Dr_Dan_
      @Dr_Dan_ 3 года назад

      @@ChrisMathers3501 and hostile take over was probably cancelled cause of blue shift or other game, a third game could why too saturate the game, + probably HL2 at the time could be the reason to cancel it

  • @pilgrimm
    @pilgrimm 4 года назад +7

    18:14 imagine that in VR

    • @VladiMatt
      @VladiMatt 4 года назад

      S U S T E N A N C E

  • @kohai-klaus5915
    @kohai-klaus5915 4 года назад +12

    Thank you for the report Tyler, keep it up man!

    • @Jaann1919
      @Jaann1919 4 года назад

      Wallpaper engine lookin ass pfp

    • @kohai-klaus5915
      @kohai-klaus5915 4 года назад

      @@Jaann1919 damn, that's kinda mean

  • @SlendyWinky
    @SlendyWinky 4 года назад +6

    tbh i couldn't kill grigori i liked his "crazy" persona too much

    • @scottl.1568
      @scottl.1568 3 года назад

      I could if he was randomly experimenting on hundreds of people

  • @ODESSARAMBO
    @ODESSARAMBO 4 года назад +5

    "Is it really that time again Mr Freeman"? So should we start a petition or bombard Arkane studios with simple requests to do something about this game? It looks magnificent, there must be way for us as a community to help the studio to release it, especially keeping in mind a fact that half life series had a second coming

    • @dkskcjfjswwwwwws413
      @dkskcjfjswwwwwws413 4 года назад +1

      They cant do anything, its valve property

    • @TheWeedIsland
      @TheWeedIsland 4 года назад +1

      Spam Valve, not these guys.

    • @ODESSARAMBO
      @ODESSARAMBO 4 года назад

      You guys have a valid point. Hope Valve will be generous enough to let Arkane or somebody talented to finish it

    • @ODESSARAMBO
      @ODESSARAMBO 4 года назад

      @JP For the most part, I agree. On the other hand, I have signed the petition for its release. Hope that it will show Valve and Arkane that there is a demand for it. I honestly believe that there are a lot of enthusiasts in both companies who too want to finish such an amazing project

  • @epicgamer9766
    @epicgamer9766 4 года назад +2

    Awesome video tyler!

  • @smushilad8324
    @smushilad8324 4 года назад +6

    I really hope valve comes back with this and make a "Half Life: Adrian"

    • @VladiMatt
      @VladiMatt 4 года назад +1

      As cool as that would be, OpFor isn't canon, so if anything we'll get Half Life: Barney.

    • @Apieceofcakeshere
      @Apieceofcakeshere 4 года назад

      @@VladiMatt OpFor isn't canon and It's canon at the same time actually. It all depends if the Half Life dev team decides to use Adrian in the future, and oh boy I'm pretty sure they will

  • @jaeckex6214
    @jaeckex6214 4 года назад +2

    The only problem I have with this that it doesnt really feel Half Life-like in regards to Lore. Fighting Headcrabless Zombies and not even Barnacles, normal headcrabs etc. Makes it pretty ambiguous IP-wise. The vibe this game has though, and the innovative Gameplay, really makes me wish this game had come out on its own merits.

  • @joshadams8779
    @joshadams8779 4 года назад +5

    This game is already ten times cooler and more thought out than I initially assumed. I want them to release it and possibly finish it (Is that even possible?) maybe Valve will let them if the community wants it.

  • @wooflakes
    @wooflakes 3 года назад +1

    I really hope the take this concept back again and make a game, Shepard is such a cool character,
    Maybe we will see a VR game with him? Unlikely but possible with Alyx out and everything

  • @andrejm3069
    @andrejm3069 4 года назад +4

    The background music from portal almost made me depressed

    • @MoonrockFall2
      @MoonrockFall2 3 года назад +1

      I was trying to find what it was from thank you

  • @feathero3
    @feathero3 2 года назад +1

    The gameplay and ideas seem amazing!
    I don't like the idea of Father Grigori being the villain, intentionally or not. But him being the side kick is amazing, and I'm sure there is some joke they can make about Shephard's name and Grigori leading a flock.

  • @imanijones10
    @imanijones10 4 года назад +3

    Apparently both Grigori and the vortigaunts love headcrab hearts? xD

  • @QueenJneeuQ
    @QueenJneeuQ 4 года назад +7

    Shame it never happened, some of these puzzle ideas looked incredible.

  • @charmyzard
    @charmyzard 4 года назад +10

    VALVe, you "are afraid of Half-Life no more."
    *please, pick up some of these, ANY of these and finish them for Lord Gaben's sake!*
    I mean, the heftiest work had already been done so, why not finish the last details, patch it up and release?

  • @expressnumber
    @expressnumber 2 года назад +2

    Huh, Half-Life and Dishonored have more shared DNA than I thought

  • @Arjun-eb1yc
    @Arjun-eb1yc 4 года назад +9

    Port it to Source 2, make higher quality models, textures and lighting. And release!
    Come on Valve, 6-8 months work?

  • @kurisu7885
    @kurisu7885 4 года назад +3

    Man, I've been wanting a follow up to Opposing Force forever.

  • @Randomstuffs261
    @Randomstuffs261 4 года назад +24

    They scrapped this for EPIC MICKEY? oh my god

    • @gianni50725
      @gianni50725 3 года назад +1

      Don’t diss Epic Mickey too bad. Look at its early concept art. It’s awesome.
      I might have considered leaving this game for it if it had followed that original vision. Learning about all the scrapped concepts for Epic Mickey honestly hurts more than this video. Someone could write a book on it.

  • @JordyBoothy
    @JordyBoothy 4 года назад

    I know you worked hard on this one man so I just wanted say, great video! Appreciated how you looped some clips so I could fully take in what happened without going back myself.

  • @codemancz798
    @codemancz798 4 года назад +6

    Fan favorite characters. Fan favorite setting. Damn it, Valve.

  • @randomcatdude
    @randomcatdude 4 года назад +1

    Honestly, the thing that I like the most about this is the way the maps look. They all look like something Valve made, it's so good. It's honestly pretty refreshing to see, after so many custom maps that don't look anywhere as detailed and interesting.

  • @intellectualpotato
    @intellectualpotato 4 года назад +22

    *laughs in watched on stream*

    • @Addsomehappy
      @Addsomehappy 4 года назад +9

      *cries in nothing new*

    • @intellectualpotato
      @intellectualpotato 4 года назад +1

      @@Addsomehappy *depression of realization*

    • @user-tzzglsstle585e38
      @user-tzzglsstle585e38 4 года назад

      *celebrates in realization that Half-life: Alyx is only a few months old and meaning; we still have hope for something new even if it's not exactly this*

  • @sobekflakmonkey
    @sobekflakmonkey 4 года назад +1

    Gregori ripping out the headcrabs heart is suuuper similar to the voritgaunt ripping out the headcrabs heart in Alyx, I guess we know where they got that idea from, it'd be cool to see this released on Source 2, however unlikely it is.

    • @rwkerstetter
      @rwkerstetter 4 года назад

      I had to scroll much too far to find this comment. During that scene I could almost hear Grigori's voice as he nonchalantly tossed the heart into the pot... "I have a brain injury. My brain is injured! Ow."

  • @multrufio8056
    @multrufio8056 4 года назад +3

    These cancelled game reviews are pure gold. Great job, Tyler!

  • @damsen978
    @damsen978 4 года назад +2

    Am i the only one who enjoyed Opposing Force more than the original Half-Life game? Because this video just made me sad at the lost opportunity.

  • @merchant_of_kek5697
    @merchant_of_kek5697 2 года назад +3

    Completely changes how zombies work and adding multiple different interactions between the environment, mc, and enemies, almost all which we have never seen before within half life unless with a ton of mods… cancels game cause it would be one step closer to three

  • @icata12345
    @icata12345 4 года назад +2

    The outro song hits me with nostalgia

  • @eepy_lb7798
    @eepy_lb7798 4 года назад +6

    Im glad they didn’t go with the headcrabless zombies that would of taken away half-life zombies Uniqueness.

  • @Mcree114
    @Mcree114 4 года назад +1

    So instead of this the next time we get to see Adrian is when his dork of a non-canon brother Mitchell dies and is somehow transported to Adrian's stasis holding area.

  • @pipemong
    @pipemong 4 года назад +3

    WTF this game is soo innovational! Imagine if this came out as intended. It would be right next to half life 2 as a game ahead of its time.

  • @BorealBlizzard
    @BorealBlizzard 4 года назад +1

    Maybe we could get an orange box-like compilation of these builds and unreleased projects

  • @gemusefachlummel6467
    @gemusefachlummel6467 4 года назад +4

    Okay, one more thing:
    How the heck does Valve still got third parties to work with them?
    Arcane had a terrific game that they did not care for.They had partners for their steam machines but where unable, either because they did not care enough in the end or they did not felt bound by their promises, to deliver the OS they needed for the hardware... I mean, OK I get it, with steam and no shareholders you can do whatever you want.
    Seriously, from the perspective of a business partnership, never work with valve... Maybe they have changed after their laissez faire attitude after they did not produce a single title. But still... I'd be cautious.

  • @casmith1998
    @casmith1998 4 года назад +1

    I personally don’t like the idea of Grigori, a mad priest whom simply survived because he adapted to the situation he found himself in, also apparently being a bioscientist working to create a serum. It seems rather silly.

    • @Appletank8
      @Appletank8 4 года назад

      More an amateur who doesn't really know what he's doing, considering he infects himself.

    • @casmith1998
      @casmith1998 4 года назад

      Appletank8 It’s still really far-fetched that he would even understand the basic process of creating it in the first place.

    • @Appletank8
      @Appletank8 4 года назад

      @@casmith1998
      The concept of vaccines aren't that hard to grasp, which was all he was trying to do. Headcrab blood being absurdly infectious doomed that attempt

    • @DocTime56
      @DocTime56 4 года назад

      @@casmith1998 considering Pasteur made a rabies vaccine with what was available in the 1800's, this doesn't seem that off

  • @noeperard8843
    @noeperard8843 3 года назад +4

    Again Arkane would have produced a perfect game. I don't get why valve canceled that game. So many awesome game mechanics.

  • @sillystev0n
    @sillystev0n 3 года назад +1

    I’m glad this game didn’t come out so canonically Father gregori isn’t in anyway harmed (yet).

  • @sintes88
    @sintes88 4 года назад +4

    This is better explained than the noclip documentary but jesus slow down Tyler, I had to watch the video in 0.75.