Was so impressed by your video that was randomly recommended to me on YT that I shared it with some of my friends. DW means the world to me and you seem to really get why the games are so fun and I was so happy throughout the entire video. Well done.
Dynasty Warriors has been always my childhood and i remember play it with my dad or my older sister when i was little. i pretty much replay it whenever i want to go on a nostalgia trip nowadays or when i have nothing to do, especially DW8. With DW9 leaving me unsatisfied and DW;origins coming out, i think ill still look forward towards the releases of the DW series.
I just found this (and your channel) searching for Dynasty Warriors videos, and I'm shocked you don't have more subscribers! Your video is really well-presented and edited, and you touched on everything that makes DW8 sick as hell lol. Subbed :)
@@queenniamh thank you so much for the kind words and the sub! I just got started a couple months ago so I'm really thankful for anyone watching at this point tbh 🙂
Hey man nice vid, this intro got me so much, i played Dynasty Warriors almost blind like only seeing gameplays without commentary, then i bought and i loved so much that i had to play more, and was worth every penny, then i decided to check reviews on my console store and got me "wtf?" people just getting into how the game is just button mashing and repetitive, i never had this tought about dynasty warriors, i like to play in harder difficulties and every move matters, what game this guys are playing i tought, ignoring the amazing story, the options in combat, the banger soundtrack, and even the stage features like plans and morale, even in Dynasty Warriors 6 that don't have charge attacks like square square triangle is engaging for me, how this game is just button mashing, hell nah, thanks god i played this before reading any crap
I'm living in the Asian sector. There were some installments of the Warriors series that didn't make it or have rare copies such as SW4, DW5, DW7, the Empires installments... I could say with confidence that for the DW series, DW5 is the best of the classic title and DW7 is the best of the modern title. Like all titles, they traded one feature for another. DW8 while didn't have the excellent storytelling and character chemistry as much as 7, the graphics and costumes are top notch. The hypothetical route ( possibly inspired by DW4 ) is what makes me stick with story mode more than any other titles. Once the player cleared out each kingdoms the first time, it gives quite clear conditions for the routes in most stages. In DW4, without the stage charts, player has to grind hundreds of times before accidentally unlocking an alternate route. Another advantage is that they add an extra Musou and the vfx for all attacks moves improved. The horse's leans it's head and body when you direct to turn, something that wasn't available in earlier games. So yes, play it.
I still have this game on my ps3, watching your gameplay has me like "I wasn't comboing like this back then, I should probably go back and learn those mechanics properly lol"
I’ve played the Warriors games on and off, like the psp DW2, Warriors Orochi 4, Samurai Warriors 5, and even Fire Emblem Warriors, but I haven’t played DW8. Now I’m seriously considering it after watching your video. I’m very intrigued by the thought of playing my preferred characters with different weapons.
I'm glad you've given the series a shot! I grew up playing every main entry and still occasionally visit 8 to this day. Dynasty warriors Origins has me so excited for the future of the series
I think a lot of the stigma for these games being mindless (at least today anyway) might come from how simple the enemy AI is in comparison to your kit. I actually went back and played Dynasty Warriors 2 recently and I was actually a little shocked at how difficult it is to stay alive in that game. Not only is your character a lot less capable (moves don't hit as wide, musou attacks are more for alleviating pressure than straight up damage, more rigid movement, etc.) but the even basic fodder enemies are more aggressive and tend to box you in very easily if you're not careful. It feels a lot like a beat em' up that you'd play in an arcade like Final Fight as opposed to DMC-lite and I think that's where a lot of the friction might come from for outsiders looking in.
First runs through with no stat ups on hard were a true test of yes this is a mash game at base but do you understand the nuances and play around it and actually think
@@Israeli_Prince Well, they DO carry over many characters from DWG2, but Reborn is almost a complete overhaul. I like Reborn more because of the Gundam SEED representation.
What I generally think DW8 is a cool game, although games in this series seem to suffer from balancing issues - 8, specifically (and 7, and maybe 9) have this problem that, aside from getting blindsided by an objective, it's quite easy to win fights on Normal difficulty, or even breeze through stages without taking any damage (aside from some sneaky traps or stuff like that). On harder difficulties it's more difficult (natch)... but enemy stats are also inflated, which causes even common enemy soldiers to require full combos to kill if you are playing from a "fresh" start, not to mention everything killing you with a few hits. That's why I enjoy the DW games from the PS2 (specifically, 3-5) - because they are quite challenging on the level of combat (even if they lack most of the RPG customisation mechanics of 8, unfortunately). Other aspect is the aspect of the armies - the thing with DW7 and 8 is that they removed the visible morale states of units on the map, making it completely unclear to deduce whether an ally in question will be able to handle the enemy they are going to stumble into (there is the thing with an ally being in "high spirits", but that's it). In DW 2-6 you can check it on the map. Dynasty Warriors: Origins, according to everything shown and said about it, is going to make enemies dangerous again, as well as reintroduce the more tactical elements (as well as introduce some more, like some of these that were only present in the Empires spinoffs)
@@adzi6164 thanks for the comment here. One thing I didn't mention about DW8 in the video that I wish I did is how modular you can make the difficulty. Since you can reset officers and equip weaker or less meta weapons, you can be about as strong as you want to keep something like Chaos difficulty challenging but still fun You could argue that you shouldnt have to be so granular with the difficulty to have a challenge and that's fair but I've never understood the people who ignore anything above normal and complain about it being too easy either. Hard feels about right to me for most fresh characters esp once you start unlocking skills and chaos at lvl 30-50 feels like just right for what I'm looking for. I love that the game gives me options like this.
@@espada9000 I agree! It's not even a bad thing either. A series staying in its lane and iterating whether CoD or musou have their place just as much as new ideas imo.
DW3 started it for me. the gameplay was so basic, but it also appealed to my inner child, get in from school and get in to some hack and slash with a badass soundtrack. Innovation was the enemy for me, it took it away from the basic gameplay and kept adding more and more, until my inner child wasn't interested anymore. Nowadays I have DW8XL on my switch which I still happily sit and play.. 9 I couldn't even play. Moving forward with origins, I pray they learnt from previous mistakes.
"Son of a b*tch, I'm in"😂😂 I used to love playing this on Ps2 with my lil nephew man, just seeing Lu Bu and Zhang Fei brought back memories😊👌🏾great vid too💪🏾
I've been playing through DW8 the last few days, and have found the combat just a tiny bit repetitive. Glad to hear there're more skills to unlock! Awesome video!
Awesome review! I couldn’t agree more with you. I always struggled to articulate what attracted me to this game, and what kept me hooked. I bought this years ago on Steam, and recently on PSN for the PS5. It’s a masterpiece of a game!
@@theSHELFables 100% hooked :) - I’ve been playing Souls games for a while, and needed a diversion; the Warriors games are so addictive, with DW8XLE being the pinnacle for Dynasty Warriors, and Warriors Orochi 3 being the top of the synergy, and SW4, SOS and 5. But DW8XLE is simply awesome. Thanks to you I can articulate just why! Great review!
Have you played all of the warriors games? If so would you consider making a more videos on them? I want to play them all now and I'm interested in knowing the bullet points on each game
What I actually love about Koei with their franchises is that they actually try to spice things up with their games. Sometimes, this works like with amazing games like Dynasty Warriors Strikeforce and Godseeker, but then it leads to devisive titles like Dynasty Warriors 6 or 9. If you're looking to try out other Dynasty Warriors games, I highly recommend 4 and 7 which are my personal favorites, but are also the games I think personify how amazing these games can be. As for non-Dynasty musou games, I highly recommend Samurai Warriors 4 (PS4/5), Hyrule Warriors Definitive Edition (Switch), Fist of the North Star: Ken's Rage 1 (PS3), and Fire Emblem Warriors (Switch)
As growing older,i see that playing game to relax and having a fun time much better than try-harding a game that give you more thing to think about or stressing out That what Dynasty Warriors aim for, relaxing also having a blast with the over dramatic character, overpower fighting, over streroids male and good looking female character
I understand what you mean...im a fire emblem warriors three hopes fan and most dynasty warriors fans sleep on it just because the first game was universally hated by most so even the museo community does this
I was really used to how 7 did things so getting this massive pile of repeat weapons early on and trying to engage with the loot system kind of put me off early on. I should try this game out again. Also i don't really know how much I like the 3 point system I think it's kind of odd
@@vaughnrudy8084 I'm a fan of the 3 point system because it gives you a reason to actually switch your weapons outside of just doing combos. I think it's a good addition. Thanks for watching btw!
I understand the reviews, I played a lot of DW 4 and 5 and though 5 was very similar to 4 I had not overdosed yet on the gameplay and the few improvements were enough for me. DW6 though I couldn't play for long, it's not that it was bad, but it was really the same game, the new stuff wasn't enough, if anything some of the fun stuff had been toned down a bit if I remember well. I don't think none of those games are bad, but even more than for Far Cry or Assassin's Creed, the games aren't different enough to justify playing all the games in the series. I might try 8 though, it's been long enough since I played a DW game (or Hyrule Warriors which is exactly the same thing but with a Zelda disguise).
@@NassimPanda I think the cool thing about iterative series like Assassin's Creed, CoD or even DW is that it will be there doing its thing so if you don't find every entry worth playing, you can dip for a few installments and then just come back when you have the itch for it
6 wasn't good because they got rid of the combo system and it became a "press square" spam fest with very little combat potential. It took what every other game before it did, removed it, and replaced it with something worse. That's the single things that kept me from enjoying it. Would have been great if they had simply kept the combo system in.
I always liked these games. Played Warriors Orochi and WO2 for way too much time. But I gotta be honest, the reviewers weren't wrong. They are basically the same games and they are pretty much mindless button mashing games. I don't think that's a huge problem since it can be entertaining still, but I don't want to try and pretend it's a lie. The best part of these games for me was leveling heroes and learning their cool skills which were pretty fun to use. Generally over the top and some of them pretty unique! Still, you made me want to play DW8 now lol sometimes I miss cleaning hordes with some big/weird weapon just because!
@@IottiPH I think simple can be a fair descriptor without calling something mindless. The games are very engaging despite their simplicity. I tend to turn something off if it's truly mindless. Appreciate you watching all the same tho!
@@theSHELFables I get it sounds offensive, but I understand their point. Like, I love playing these with their simplicity and I know what I'm getting at when I boot any game of the series. As an example, I find the Souls series pretty simple in their gameplay, but it's not mindless button mashing. Still, I had much more fun playing Warrior series than any Souls game lol What I see from the reviewers complaining is that playing one game feels like you've played most. If you're not a fan of this type of game, one is enough because of how little they change. When people that like the series play them, they enjoy the little bits of change that comes with each new game exactly because the game stays the same, but we get new stuff to look into.
@@IottiPH yep. Thats the iterative aspect. I will say these reviewers are people and their opinions aren't a monolith but it is odd that "being the same" is enough to make Warriors games bad or mediocre while Ubisoft games and CoD can consistently get good reviews every release. It doesn't exactly feel consistent. So we're clear though: the section with the reviews was more about my personal journey getting into these games and why it took me so long to try one. If anything, it's more a cautionary tale of ignoring your own potential interest in something to take the word of "experts" at face value and how that can result in you missing out. I hope that makes sense.
@@theSHELFables Oh yeah. You should always try it yourself any game if it sparks any kind of interest! I only follow reviews from people I know have simmilar tastes to me and even then I take it with a grain of salt. My experience with a game will be totally different than yours! One thing that makes reviews as bad as they seem is trying to keep scores. Reviews should be about what you noticed when you tried the product, not trying for a score/rank since they mean nothing.
Dw8 complete is peak gameplay for the series. Dw origins is out now and it really is something but not what dynasty warriors fans wanted. Don't get me wrong it is a great game just not what made the series great.
@@vague1995 thanks for watching! XL on steam is what I played in this video. It includes the base game and the XL content. 82 characters, 6 campaigns, ambition and the challenge mode. If you have the option, PS4 has nicer visuals and switch includes all the DLC weapons and stages.
I did pla them all from DW2 all the way to DW9. I love them all, and I love the game! Thanks for sharing your thoughts without being too negative, as all the negative surrounding the game is getting my nerve. This should be a space, I mean video games, for us to have fun, and enjoy them in the way we want and enjoy the games we want as well. I'm glad you seem to be onboard with such ideas. I would love to hear your thoughts on DW6 though. Some people say it is not good, and some say it is the best, for me it is my fav and the number 1 pick. I would recommend the PS2 version though, not the PC version, as funny as this might seem, the PS2 version is the better version of the game, even better than the xbox 360 and PS3 version as well. I would have subbed if you were a DW channel only, but hey, I gave you a like!
4 and 5 (empires and XL) all run great on PCSX2. It's such a damn shame they aren't officially sold in a modern anthology package because I'd pay BONKERS money for it.
Warriors games has a stigma on them all because of those "reviewers" from the 2000s XPlay especially had such a close minded view of games in general if you ask me
I always find that those dissing the hack n slash combat of DW dont actually have any idea how they would like Koei to change about it. The immense amount of character roster = its not ever going to be a Devil May Cry 3-5/soulcalibur. Call of Duty, if you played a single FPS, youve played all of them so legacy game reviewers of the past were just obnoxious wannabe gamers. Hell i still remember IGN not knowing how to play FFX and was healing against the magic atk Demi in the intro. The whole played one = youve played all of them can be said for every game in existence. Mario, Zelda, Final Fantasy, GoW, you name it. DW's bad rep was just a huge video game urinalist op to diss the game probably because Koei wasnt paying them money to promote the game. DW2-DW5 are seen with nostalgia lenses. Theyre more retro than modern by today's standards and no one is going to run to a store to buy it off the shelf. Out of all of those, DW4 was the best but I still remembwr how much I hated the same looking maps for each stage. The field assets in DW4 was pretty bad or it could be that I played it so much the maps got stale after a while. Also, the enjoyment of DW depends solely on the player. Every youtube gamer posting DW content always busts out the same attack chain so of course youre gonna be bored going for the same atk chain. Aint no way a DW player gonna be pulling some high level Dante/Vergil/Nero type gameplay if DW had a combat mechanic like DMC. In fact, id argue the DW gamers would be crying up a river for sucking at the game now. I should look into doing my own video game channel for fun and upload footage of gameplay for DW too. Im not the best gamer like those no damage gamers but I know how to make a game like DW look fun and feel fun.
This review fills me with so much joy!😊 8 is so underrated in my opinion. Koei obviously put a lot of effort and content into it, just for everyone to bitch and say it's not 7. Obviously it will feel repetitive if you sit on your ass in one sitting thinking you can beat the game, you're supposed to take your time and just enjoy yourself. Working my way to uploading some 8 gameplay so people can see the full experience!
@@abstr4cted496 What lists are you looking at? I don't know anyone who puts it above 4, 5, and even 3. It's not a bad game, but it doesn't deserve to be in the top 3 of lists.
@@sarkaztik3228 it's usually at the top of recommendations for new players and also the xl version has just a large amount of content so more bang for your buck.
You're telling people that the way people should play DW8... is the way that people play every single game of the series...? 8 Objectively lacks the content of past games, you can't argue that away by telling people to play the game how they already play it. A lot of people dislike 8 for legitimate reasons. I don't dislike the game, but it is by far on the weaker end of the stick and it's flaws are pretty clear. At least it's above 6. All of the games aside from 6 are great, but 7 and 8 really changed a lot of things for the worse and took a lot of soul out of the series. Allowing characters to use any weapon was a massive mistake as well as allowing weapons of any kind to drop while you're battling. If I'm using a specific character, I want specifically that character's EX weapon to drop. Character's EX weapons should be the only weapon drops they get (except in the secondary game modes perhaps). You should have to play a character and upgrade to the weapon you want to use on a different character before being able to transfer to a different character-- if they really want to keep this system and make it make sense. The fact that the best way to get the weapon you want is to just buy them in the shop is a pretty garbage system that is neither fun, exciting, nor interesting. There's zero sense of accomplishment there-- which drives many fans of the series to keep going. On top of that, the 5th and 6th weapons are WORSE than a proper 4th weapon due to the game's design which is insanity. Been playing for months and keep putting it down after an hour because there aren't any meaningful goals to work toward. Near-maxing out characters felt good in past games (well, pre 6) because they were needed in that state to get their final weapons. In 8 (and even 7), you just do it to do it and play harder difficulties because the Normal is so damn easy and you can get . Alternate modes of play, like Empires and XL were also great and provided a ton of gameplay in past games. In 8, it just lacks the aim and goals to be set. They're still there, of course, but they're presented in a much weaker manner than pre-DW6 games. I still have plenty of fun with the game, but pretending that that other people's critical views of the game aren't legit because of your personal bias is silly.
@@XxDruidmancerxX 7 is also solid and some people even prefer it for the storytelling. Imo the combat isn't as good as 8 but 7 is still a good time. Hope you have fun!
I've been a longtime fan of the series, since DW3 came out, and all i hard in the press was always that they were garbage, meanwhile i immesely enjoyed every entry, more than 20 years enjoying every musou game they released. Always follow your criteria, the press is garbage, if i payed attention to what reviewers said i wouldn't have played so much cool games.
DW8XLDE is the definitely a top 5 hack & slash on the switch library. And I got it for $20 on the E-Shop, what a steal. I loved it so much ended up getting Hyrule Warrior and Age of Calamity too. I would say the Ninja Gaiden collection deserved a higher spot, but they went with a lame vita port instead of porting the objectively superior PS3 versions. (can't say it was because of switch hardware either because even the steam release got shafted by the lame port). I keep hearing about how amazing DW7 Empires is, I wish they would bring that one to the switch so badly.
Recently bought 8 on the pc after taking a long break from the series. Personally not super impressed feels like a ps2 game. DW 6 is probably my favorite and the most innovative/modern in the series
@@k1llkyle463 I didn't enjoy 6 much when I tried it and "feels like a PS2 game" is usually a compliment when I say it. Just shows how different we can be. Appreciate you watching!
If you think 6 is the best... I'm curious to your metrics on what "innovative" and "modern" are. The Renbu system was abysmal and dumbed down an already pretty simple combat system to the nth degree, they removed characters--even mainstays since the first game--for literally zero reason. This in turn removed many styles of play which is a further dumbing down of the series. 6 is also the first game to start cloning movesets, which was the worst thing to happen to the entire series. There's nothing in 6 that I can defend other than it looked... slightly nice?
@@obitoxshinobi8978 the combat in 8 is better imo and that's really important to me. 7 does have a very nice story mode even if the combat isn't as good. Would never say it's bad because I prefer 8 though 👍
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God this game is just the peak of the series imo, everything about it is so great.
Was so impressed by your video that was randomly recommended to me on YT that I shared it with some of my friends. DW means the world to me and you seem to really get why the games are so fun and I was so happy throughout the entire video. Well done.
@@Darkcaster95 thank you for watching and for the kind words!
The story is great, the characters designs are great, the characters move set are all unique and so many content available to play
Glad you enjoyed your time with the game! Always happy to see someone give the series a chance.
@@ChrisGildart thanks for checking out my video!
hell yea this some real video game good shit right here
a real video game ass video game fr
The soundtrack alone for this game was legendary
Especially the one on Lu Bu's story, its last stage for the good ending!
Zhou Tai's dash will be forever my thing, I literally don't need a horse 😂
For me it was Da Qiao's sigil sticks. Always used em to get everywhere
Dynasty Warriors has been always my childhood and i remember play it with my dad or my older sister when i was little. i pretty much replay it whenever i want to go on a nostalgia trip nowadays or when i have nothing to do, especially DW8. With DW9 leaving me unsatisfied and DW;origins coming out, i think ill still look forward towards the releases of the DW series.
I just found this (and your channel) searching for Dynasty Warriors videos, and I'm shocked you don't have more subscribers! Your video is really well-presented and edited, and you touched on everything that makes DW8 sick as hell lol. Subbed :)
@@queenniamh thank you so much for the kind words and the sub! I just got started a couple months ago so I'm really thankful for anyone watching at this point tbh 🙂
They were haters DW8 is superb
Spent a ton of hours playing DW 8. Now in the hype train for Dynasty Warriors Origins! 🤩
I freaking love Dynasty Warriors ❤
DW8 xl. My favorite Dynasty Warriors game right here.
this video looks professionally done! hope you get more subs!
@@yoomiimii thank you!
Hey man nice vid, this intro got me so much, i played Dynasty Warriors almost blind like only seeing gameplays without commentary, then i bought and i loved so much that i had to play more, and was worth every penny, then i decided to check reviews on my console store and got me "wtf?" people just getting into how the game is just button mashing and repetitive, i never had this tought about dynasty warriors, i like to play in harder difficulties and every move matters, what game this guys are playing i tought, ignoring the amazing story, the options in combat, the banger soundtrack, and even the stage features like plans and morale, even in Dynasty Warriors 6 that don't have charge attacks like square square triangle is engaging for me, how this game is just button mashing, hell nah, thanks god i played this before reading any crap
It is always good see DW franchise getting discovered and loved. I can tell you really liked it because of the dedication of this video.
@@aizengrosoxd6014 thank you for watching!
I'm living in the Asian sector. There were some installments of the Warriors series that didn't make it or have rare copies such as SW4, DW5, DW7, the Empires installments... I could say with confidence that for the DW series, DW5 is the best of the classic title and DW7 is the best of the modern title. Like all titles, they traded one feature for another. DW8 while didn't have the excellent storytelling and character chemistry as much as 7, the graphics and costumes are top notch. The hypothetical route ( possibly inspired by DW4 ) is what makes me stick with story mode more than any other titles. Once the player cleared out each kingdoms the first time, it gives quite clear conditions for the routes in most stages. In DW4, without the stage charts, player has to grind hundreds of times before accidentally unlocking an alternate route. Another advantage is that they add an extra Musou and the vfx for all attacks moves improved. The horse's leans it's head and body when you direct to turn, something that wasn't available in earlier games. So yes, play it.
I fucking LOVE hypothetical routes :D
I still have this game on my ps3, watching your gameplay has me like "I wasn't comboing like this back then, I should probably go back and learn those mechanics properly lol"
I’ve played the Warriors games on and off, like the psp DW2, Warriors Orochi 4, Samurai Warriors 5, and even Fire Emblem Warriors, but I haven’t played DW8. Now I’m seriously considering it after watching your video. I’m very intrigued by the thought of playing my preferred characters with different weapons.
@@cozycatfloof thanks for checking out the video!
I'm glad you've given the series a shot! I grew up playing every main entry and still occasionally visit 8 to this day. Dynasty warriors Origins has me so excited for the future of the series
@@elijahmcgrath5918 thanks for checking out the video and I do hope Origins ends up a solid game too.
One of the most beautiful games i have ever played in my life
Just came across your video while looking up the game series and you've done a fantastic job. Keep it up!
@@adiyo011 thank you!
I grew up with this franchise and its cool to see it age with me. Origins is the perfect start to this new ERA of DW.
you earned my utmost respect brother
appreciate you!
I think a lot of the stigma for these games being mindless (at least today anyway) might come from how simple the enemy AI is in comparison to your kit. I actually went back and played Dynasty Warriors 2 recently and I was actually a little shocked at how difficult it is to stay alive in that game. Not only is your character a lot less capable (moves don't hit as wide, musou attacks are more for alleviating pressure than straight up damage, more rigid movement, etc.) but the even basic fodder enemies are more aggressive and tend to box you in very easily if you're not careful. It feels a lot like a beat em' up that you'd play in an arcade like Final Fight as opposed to DMC-lite and I think that's where a lot of the friction might come from for outsiders looking in.
First runs through with no stat ups on hard were a true test of yes this is a mash game at base but do you understand the nuances and play around it and actually think
I wouldn't want the Japanese voice acting, because the English voice acting is great in a 'so bad it's good' way.
This made me redownload DW8, fantastic video
@@jridsy thanks for watching!
great video of showcasing what DW8 have to offer. it is my most favoriteout of all of them! Lu lingqi is my favorite character!
@@x0x0niks thank you and Lingqi is great. Her crosspike is real fun
@@theSHELFables i like her so much that i made commission pixel art of her :D
My fave is Wei Yan, but Lu Lingqi (and Yueying) enters my top 5 easily
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@@EbonyIfrit I hear they're all the same anyway ;)
@@theSHELFables nah Gundam made the best warriors game.
@@Israeli_Prince Well, they DO carry over many characters from DWG2, but Reborn is almost a complete overhaul. I like Reborn more because of the Gundam SEED representation.
damn I've been replaying the old ones while waiting for origins to come out, you made me excited to go back to DW8 again!
Damn good video :)
@@proj3ctvanguard15 thank you!
What I generally think
DW8 is a cool game, although games in this series seem to suffer from balancing issues - 8, specifically (and 7, and maybe 9) have this problem that, aside from getting blindsided by an objective, it's quite easy to win fights on Normal difficulty, or even breeze through stages without taking any damage (aside from some sneaky traps or stuff like that). On harder difficulties it's more difficult (natch)... but enemy stats are also inflated, which causes even common enemy soldiers to require full combos to kill if you are playing from a "fresh" start, not to mention everything killing you with a few hits.
That's why I enjoy the DW games from the PS2 (specifically, 3-5) - because they are quite challenging on the level of combat (even if they lack most of the RPG customisation mechanics of 8, unfortunately).
Other aspect is the aspect of the armies - the thing with DW7 and 8 is that they removed the visible morale states of units on the map, making it completely unclear to deduce whether an ally in question will be able to handle the enemy they are going to stumble into (there is the thing with an ally being in "high spirits", but that's it). In DW 2-6 you can check it on the map.
Dynasty Warriors: Origins, according to everything shown and said about it, is going to make enemies dangerous again, as well as reintroduce the more tactical elements (as well as introduce some more, like some of these that were only present in the Empires spinoffs)
@@adzi6164 thanks for the comment here. One thing I didn't mention about DW8 in the video that I wish I did is how modular you can make the difficulty. Since you can reset officers and equip weaker or less meta weapons, you can be about as strong as you want to keep something like Chaos difficulty challenging but still fun
You could argue that you shouldnt have to be so granular with the difficulty to have a challenge and that's fair but I've never understood the people who ignore anything above normal and complain about it being too easy either. Hard feels about right to me for most fresh characters esp once you start unlocking skills and chaos at lvl 30-50 feels like just right for what I'm looking for. I love that the game gives me options like this.
They need to bring this fighting format back
I haven't played the main game but I have played Empires, as well as the 7th installment's main story...Empire is interesting but fun to play tbh
What those foolish negative reviewers was complaining about, the same can be said for 1st person shooting games like Call of Duty.
@@espada9000 I agree! It's not even a bad thing either. A series staying in its lane and iterating whether CoD or musou have their place just as much as new ideas imo.
DW3 started it for me. the gameplay was so basic, but it also appealed to my inner child, get in from school and get in to some hack and slash with a badass soundtrack.
Innovation was the enemy for me, it took it away from the basic gameplay and kept adding more and more, until my inner child wasn't interested anymore.
Nowadays I have DW8XL on my switch which I still happily sit and play.. 9 I couldn't even play.
Moving forward with origins, I pray they learnt from previous mistakes.
@@serwalkerofthekeynes8761 I've since gone back and played a lot of the older ones and I LOVE DW3 menu music
I started with 2 a long time ago lol
"Son of a b*tch, I'm in"😂😂 I used to love playing this on Ps2 with my lil nephew man, just seeing Lu Bu and Zhang Fei brought back memories😊👌🏾great vid too💪🏾
@@supaslime2938 thanks for checking out my video!
I've been playing through DW8 the last few days, and have found the combat just a tiny bit repetitive. Glad to hear there're more skills to unlock!
Awesome video!
@@thufirck6734 thank you!
13:53 BIG GLOVES BIG GLOVES
bro, if you like DW, try Warriors Orochi and Samurai Warriors!
Awesome review! I couldn’t agree more with you. I always struggled to articulate what attracted me to this game, and what kept me hooked.
I bought this years ago on Steam, and recently on PSN for the PS5. It’s a masterpiece of a game!
Glad you enjoyed it!
@@theSHELFables 100% hooked :) - I’ve been playing Souls games for a while, and needed a diversion; the Warriors games are so addictive, with DW8XLE being the pinnacle for Dynasty Warriors, and Warriors Orochi 3 being the top of the synergy, and SW4, SOS and 5. But DW8XLE is simply awesome. Thanks to you I can articulate just why! Great review!
Have you played all of the warriors games? If so would you consider making a more videos on them? I want to play them all now and I'm interested in knowing the bullet points on each game
@@mattlockwood6089 I've played most of them at this point, yeah. I definitely plan on doing more Musou videos in the future. Thanks for watching!
What I actually love about Koei with their franchises is that they actually try to spice things up with their games. Sometimes, this works like with amazing games like Dynasty Warriors Strikeforce and Godseeker, but then it leads to devisive titles like Dynasty Warriors 6 or 9.
If you're looking to try out other Dynasty Warriors games, I highly recommend 4 and 7 which are my personal favorites, but are also the games I think personify how amazing these games can be. As for non-Dynasty musou games, I highly recommend Samurai Warriors 4 (PS4/5), Hyrule Warriors Definitive Edition (Switch), Fist of the North Star: Ken's Rage 1 (PS3), and Fire Emblem Warriors (Switch)
@@musouprince7796 yeah I'll probably be making videos for a couple more that I recommend too. Thanks for watching!
As growing older,i see that playing game to relax and having a fun time much better than try-harding a game that give you more thing to think about or stressing out
That what Dynasty Warriors aim for, relaxing also having a blast with the over dramatic character, overpower fighting, over streroids male and good looking female character
7 and 8 were quite literally the best in the series
I had no idea what dash or any of that meant! I got this game back in August. It’s great for scratching that DW itch!
@@BoneInBloodOut so much content! Thanks for checking out the video.
I understand what you mean...im a fire emblem warriors three hopes fan and most dynasty warriors fans sleep on it just because the first game was universally hated by most so even the museo community does this
Damn good video...I'm subbing
@@Nelo187 glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for your kind words!
Yi ling theme in this game is Peak DW music.
Yea, play it!
Welcome to the family son.
@@axsprime tfw im mold
Not should......but when!! Im so ready right now for some good musho action!!!
Lol thank you for showing old game reviews it kinda shows they’re not looking at everything as a whole just one thing
Dw8 is my first dynasty warriors game and I like it so far good video
@@mrbowserm5071 thank you!
Either way, dynasty warriors is rhe best Real-Time strategy game of all time
10:19 literally how I move around the stages before unlocking red hare
Bro you could live off this game with how much movesets, characters and customization there is
@@Merckk absolutely! Thanks for watching!
Found this from the reddit post well made video my friend 👍
@@therealpaddyp thanks for watching! Glad you liked it
I had the first dynasty warrior. People don't remember it was a Soul Calibur clone. It evolved into a beat em up
@@nightmareknee942 it's crazy how many moves from that game made it into the later ones haha
@@theSHELFables Yeah, that's really cool.
I was really used to how 7 did things so getting this massive pile of repeat weapons early on and trying to engage with the loot system kind of put me off early on. I should try this game out again. Also i don't really know how much I like the 3 point system I think it's kind of odd
@@vaughnrudy8084 I'm a fan of the 3 point system because it gives you a reason to actually switch your weapons outside of just doing combos. I think it's a good addition. Thanks for watching btw!
Cool and smart wins again 🙏🏻
I have it in steam. And if I wasn't so busy, I would dedicate HOURS UPON HOURS on it :D
It definitely has the content for it! Thanks for watching
Hell yeah cao cao, nice advice right there
Remember guys, do not pursue lu bu 😂
I understand the reviews, I played a lot of DW 4 and 5 and though 5 was very similar to 4 I had not overdosed yet on the gameplay and the few improvements were enough for me. DW6 though I couldn't play for long, it's not that it was bad, but it was really the same game, the new stuff wasn't enough, if anything some of the fun stuff had been toned down a bit if I remember well. I don't think none of those games are bad, but even more than for Far Cry or Assassin's Creed, the games aren't different enough to justify playing all the games in the series.
I might try 8 though, it's been long enough since I played a DW game (or Hyrule Warriors which is exactly the same thing but with a Zelda disguise).
@@NassimPanda I think the cool thing about iterative series like Assassin's Creed, CoD or even DW is that it will be there doing its thing so if you don't find every entry worth playing, you can dip for a few installments and then just come back when you have the itch for it
6 wasn't good because they got rid of the combo system and it became a "press square" spam fest with very little combat potential. It took what every other game before it did, removed it, and replaced it with something worse. That's the single things that kept me from enjoying it. Would have been great if they had simply kept the combo system in.
I always liked these games. Played Warriors Orochi and WO2 for way too much time. But I gotta be honest, the reviewers weren't wrong. They are basically the same games and they are pretty much mindless button mashing games.
I don't think that's a huge problem since it can be entertaining still, but I don't want to try and pretend it's a lie.
The best part of these games for me was leveling heroes and learning their cool skills which were pretty fun to use. Generally over the top and some of them pretty unique!
Still, you made me want to play DW8 now lol sometimes I miss cleaning hordes with some big/weird weapon just because!
@@IottiPH I think simple can be a fair descriptor without calling something mindless. The games are very engaging despite their simplicity. I tend to turn something off if it's truly mindless.
Appreciate you watching all the same tho!
@@theSHELFables I get it sounds offensive, but I understand their point.
Like, I love playing these with their simplicity and I know what I'm getting at when I boot any game of the series.
As an example, I find the Souls series pretty simple in their gameplay, but it's not mindless button mashing. Still, I had much more fun playing Warrior series than any Souls game lol
What I see from the reviewers complaining is that playing one game feels like you've played most. If you're not a fan of this type of game, one is enough because of how little they change.
When people that like the series play them, they enjoy the little bits of change that comes with each new game exactly because the game stays the same, but we get new stuff to look into.
@@IottiPH yep. Thats the iterative aspect. I will say these reviewers are people and their opinions aren't a monolith but it is odd that "being the same" is enough to make Warriors games bad or mediocre while Ubisoft games and CoD can consistently get good reviews every release. It doesn't exactly feel consistent.
So we're clear though: the section with the reviews was more about my personal journey getting into these games and why it took me so long to try one. If anything, it's more a cautionary tale of ignoring your own potential interest in something to take the word of "experts" at face value and how that can result in you missing out. I hope that makes sense.
@@theSHELFables Oh yeah. You should always try it yourself any game if it sparks any kind of interest!
I only follow reviews from people I know have simmilar tastes to me and even then I take it with a grain of salt. My experience with a game will be totally different than yours!
One thing that makes reviews as bad as they seem is trying to keep scores. Reviews should be about what you noticed when you tried the product, not trying for a score/rank since they mean nothing.
@@IottiPH I agree!
Even the PSP version of dynasty warriors is good. It's a good series.
Dw4,7, 8 and Xtreme Legends were the best on Ps2,3 and 4
Dw8 complete is peak gameplay for the series. Dw origins is out now and it really is something but not what dynasty warriors fans wanted. Don't get me wrong it is a great game just not what made the series great.
great video , do u know what XL complete edition offers on steam ?
@@vague1995 thanks for watching! XL on steam is what I played in this video. It includes the base game and the XL content. 82 characters, 6 campaigns, ambition and the challenge mode.
If you have the option, PS4 has nicer visuals and switch includes all the DLC weapons and stages.
@theSHELFables thank you very much I appreciate u 🙏 ❤️ 💗 💛 💓
I did pla them all from DW2 all the way to DW9.
I love them all, and I love the game!
Thanks for sharing your thoughts without being too negative, as all the negative surrounding the game is getting my nerve.
This should be a space, I mean video games, for us to have fun, and enjoy them in the way we want and enjoy the games we want as well.
I'm glad you seem to be onboard with such ideas.
I would love to hear your thoughts on DW6 though.
Some people say it is not good, and some say it is the best, for me it is my fav and the number 1 pick.
I would recommend the PS2 version though, not the PC version, as funny as this might seem, the PS2 version is the better version of the game, even better than the xbox 360 and PS3 version as well.
I would have subbed if you were a DW channel only, but hey, I gave you a like!
@@Aselia-q6w thanks for checking out the video and the like!
I fell in love with some of the new characters in DW8. 4,5 and 8 will always have my heart.
4 and 5 (empires and XL) all run great on PCSX2. It's such a damn shame they aren't officially sold in a modern anthology package because I'd pay BONKERS money for it.
Man ur typical western one braincell game journalist at their best lol!
Especially the likes of IGN and such XD
Warriors games has a stigma on them all because of those "reviewers" from the 2000s XPlay especially had such a close minded view of games in general if you ask me
I watched this video, and then bought DW8. Then I made a officers never hit the ground until they died.
@@ninjettenine bombos tbh
@@theSHELFables I am the dynasty warrior
I always find that those dissing the hack n slash combat of DW dont actually have any idea how they would like Koei to change about it. The immense amount of character roster = its not ever going to be a Devil May Cry 3-5/soulcalibur. Call of Duty, if you played a single FPS, youve played all of them so legacy game reviewers of the past were just obnoxious wannabe gamers. Hell i still remember IGN not knowing how to play FFX and was healing against the magic atk Demi in the intro.
The whole played one = youve played all of them can be said for every game in existence. Mario, Zelda, Final Fantasy, GoW, you name it.
DW's bad rep was just a huge video game urinalist op to diss the game probably because Koei wasnt paying them money to promote the game.
DW2-DW5 are seen with nostalgia lenses. Theyre more retro than modern by today's standards and no one is going to run to a store to buy it off the shelf. Out of all of those, DW4 was the best but I still remembwr how much I hated the same looking maps for each stage. The field assets in DW4 was pretty bad or it could be that I played it so much the maps got stale after a while.
Also, the enjoyment of DW depends solely on the player. Every youtube gamer posting DW content always busts out the same attack chain so of course youre gonna be bored going for the same atk chain. Aint no way a DW player gonna be pulling some high level Dante/Vergil/Nero type gameplay if DW had a combat mechanic like DMC. In fact, id argue the DW gamers would be crying up a river for sucking at the game now.
I should look into doing my own video game channel for fun and upload footage of gameplay for DW too. Im not the best gamer like those no damage gamers but I know how to make a game like DW look fun and feel fun.
@@LVL5esper you should definitely make your own channel!
This review fills me with so much joy!😊 8 is so underrated in my opinion. Koei obviously put a lot of effort and content into it, just for everyone to bitch and say it's not 7. Obviously it will feel repetitive if you sit on your ass in one sitting thinking you can beat the game, you're supposed to take your time and just enjoy yourself. Working my way to uploading some 8 gameplay so people can see the full experience!
@@dragonempresskxm thank you for the kind words! Glad you enjoyed it!
How is 8 underrated? It's always at the top of lists.
@@abstr4cted496 What lists are you looking at? I don't know anyone who puts it above 4, 5, and even 3. It's not a bad game, but it doesn't deserve to be in the top 3 of lists.
@@sarkaztik3228 it's usually at the top of recommendations for new players and also the xl version has just a large amount of content so more bang for your buck.
You're telling people that the way people should play DW8... is the way that people play every single game of the series...? 8 Objectively lacks the content of past games, you can't argue that away by telling people to play the game how they already play it. A lot of people dislike 8 for legitimate reasons. I don't dislike the game, but it is by far on the weaker end of the stick and it's flaws are pretty clear. At least it's above 6. All of the games aside from 6 are great, but 7 and 8 really changed a lot of things for the worse and took a lot of soul out of the series. Allowing characters to use any weapon was a massive mistake as well as allowing weapons of any kind to drop while you're battling. If I'm using a specific character, I want specifically that character's EX weapon to drop. Character's EX weapons should be the only weapon drops they get (except in the secondary game modes perhaps). You should have to play a character and upgrade to the weapon you want to use on a different character before being able to transfer to a different character-- if they really want to keep this system and make it make sense. The fact that the best way to get the weapon you want is to just buy them in the shop is a pretty garbage system that is neither fun, exciting, nor interesting. There's zero sense of accomplishment there-- which drives many fans of the series to keep going. On top of that, the 5th and 6th weapons are WORSE than a proper 4th weapon due to the game's design which is insanity.
Been playing for months and keep putting it down after an hour because there aren't any meaningful goals to work toward. Near-maxing out characters felt good in past games (well, pre 6) because they were needed in that state to get their final weapons. In 8 (and even 7), you just do it to do it and play harder difficulties because the Normal is so damn easy and you can get . Alternate modes of play, like Empires and XL were also great and provided a ton of gameplay in past games. In 8, it just lacks the aim and goals to be set. They're still there, of course, but they're presented in a much weaker manner than pre-DW6 games. I still have plenty of fun with the game, but pretending that that other people's critical views of the game aren't legit because of your personal bias is silly.
Made me buy 7 (8 was WAY more expensive, even on sale lol).
@@XxDruidmancerxX 7 is also solid and some people even prefer it for the storytelling. Imo the combat isn't as good as 8 but 7 is still a good time. Hope you have fun!
@@theSHELFables 8's combat was not different from 7, so I don't see how it can be better. 8 just had slightly better graphics that's about it.
0:40 These reviewers dont know anything. Fans move the formula. DOn't fix whant ait broken.
I've been a longtime fan of the series, since DW3 came out, and all i hard in the press was always that they were garbage, meanwhile i immesely enjoyed every entry, more than 20 years enjoying every musou game they released.
Always follow your criteria, the press is garbage, if i payed attention to what reviewers said i wouldn't have played so much cool games.
How do I find the time to play a beast like this?
@@WednesdaysSerial one stage at a time ;)
Any mods to improve textures or anything?
@@noon6 there's a reshade mod on Nexus but I've never tried it so I can't say how good it is
Is this dw8 extreme legends?
@@takaharamaragara1392 yes this is the Complete edition on Steam. Any version you get past the PS3 or 360 version will include that content
DW8XLDE is the definitely a top 5 hack & slash on the switch library. And I got it for $20 on the E-Shop, what a steal. I loved it so much ended up getting Hyrule Warrior and Age of Calamity too. I would say the Ninja Gaiden collection deserved a higher spot, but they went with a lame vita port instead of porting the objectively superior PS3 versions. (can't say it was because of switch hardware either because even the steam release got shafted by the lame port). I keep hearing about how amazing DW7 Empires is, I wish they would bring that one to the switch so badly.
@@7F0X7 yeah the switch version having all the DLC too is great. DW8 is a very meaty game with just XL but the DLC adds a lot too
Play Dynasty Warriors 8 Xtreme Legends Complete Edition instead.
Recently bought 8 on the pc after taking a long break from the series. Personally not super impressed feels like a ps2 game. DW 6 is probably my favorite and the most innovative/modern in the series
@@k1llkyle463 I didn't enjoy 6 much when I tried it and "feels like a PS2 game" is usually a compliment when I say it. Just shows how different we can be. Appreciate you watching!
@@theSHELFablesagreed ,hearing someone say it "feels like a ps2 game" is the biggest compliment to me! That would make me sprint to buying it faster😂
If you think 6 is the best... I'm curious to your metrics on what "innovative" and "modern" are. The Renbu system was abysmal and dumbed down an already pretty simple combat system to the nth degree, they removed characters--even mainstays since the first game--for literally zero reason. This in turn removed many styles of play which is a further dumbing down of the series. 6 is also the first game to start cloning movesets, which was the worst thing to happen to the entire series. There's nothing in 6 that I can defend other than it looked... slightly nice?
Complete edition*
True. I didnt feel the need to specify since the vanilla game is locked to 7th gen but XL really completes the package for sure
out of all DW games i played,this one has the worst maps IMO.
it just feels so weird.
shit dynasty warriors 4 you should try
7 is better
8 💩
@@obitoxshinobi8978 sorry bro didn't realize. Let me delete this rq
@@theSHELFables 8 only has more char but I prefer 7
@@obitoxshinobi8978 the combat in 8 is better imo and that's really important to me. 7 does have a very nice story mode even if the combat isn't as good. Would never say it's bad because I prefer 8 though 👍
@@theSHELFables 7 n 8 combat r the same 🥴😂 I miss 3 4 5 up attack
@@obitoxshinobi8978only the same on the surface. 8 added a lot but you'd have to care enough to notice
You should make video called "Dynasty Warriors Franchise is not bad *YOU GUYS ARE JUST MEAN LIKE STAR WARS FANDOM"*