Why Natsume Should Stop Making Video Games
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- Опубликовано: 1 авг 2024
- In this video I take a look at Natsume's most recent game, "Harvest Moon: A Light of Hope" and go into detail about what happened to the Harvest Moon series over the years, while at the same time, comparing it to it's successor Stardew Valley.
Please give me feedback on my video! I'm new to RUclips and to "animating" (if you can even call this animation), so leave any constructive feedback.
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Songs used:
Non Non Biyori OST Disc 1 - 05 - Are You Okay
Town - Harvest Moon Back to Nature OST
Non Non Biyori OST Disc 2 - 03 - Tension
PWAA OST 03 - Trial
PWAA OST 16 - Dick Gumshoe
Spring - Harvest Moon Back to Nature OST
Stardew Valley OST - Stardew Valley Overture
Stardew Valley OST - Journey Of The Prairie King - Overworld
Harvest Moon _ FOMT _ Heart Event
Ace Attorney Gyakuten Saiban Anime OST
Non Non Biyori OST Disc 2 - 09 - Yay!
Phoenix Wright 2 - 20) Eccentric OST
Non Non Biyori OST Disc 2 - 21 - Delicious Bland Food
Title - Harvest Moon Back to Nature OST
Orchestr/a/ plays Oishii Ryouri (Thanks to Sync for letting me use this cover:
/ channel )
#Harvestmoon #StardewValley #GameReview 
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I love how this man was so insulted by Natsume that he spent 1 1/2 years learning how to make a youtube video out of pure spite.
This guy gets it
Look for the Marvelous logo. If it's not there, don't buy it.
Agreed :
Precisely. If Marvelous is not there, then it's not a real "Harvest Moon" game.
Sadly don’t even do that. They were bought out by Tencent
Fate/Extella is my favorite farming sim.
@@dylandockery8379 heheh everything is owned by tencent in asia. Just go buy yourself last of us 2 bro.
Story of Seasons is the real Harvest Moon now. Natsume is just making fake ones and using the name. Story of Seasons: Friends of Mineral town is coming to switch July 14th and it's a competent remake of the original game.
ITS ON MY CALANDER O^O, LITTERALLY CANNOT WAIT
@@vtea With any luck maybe Rune Factory 5 won't be too far behind.
I've waited so long for rune factory 5, I need a date ;_;
@White-Van Helsing WAIT it's coming to PC?
Litterally just preordered it, thanks
I forgot that Harvest Moon was renamed Story of Seasons and bought Light of Hope despite my sister's complaint that it was ugly. The storyline is annoying af. I got the SoSFoMT on Switch though, so I'm all good now.
Im sorry for your loss ;_;
You came in for the clutch though. SoSFoMT is so good
You ended up in the right place in the end at least. Now do yourself a huge favor if you already haven't and drop a ten and and fiver on the Switch version of Stardew Valley. It will be the most value you will ever get for anything that price.
^what this guy said
@vtea @walawalacookie i am tempted. Maybe I need to watch some playthroughs and reviews first. 🤔🤔🤔
Animal Parade had the best models, you can’t convince me otherwise, that game was on the wii, this is on the SWITCH there is no excuse
I agree, I would like Marvelous to remake that game into something more realistic since it had such a good story
@@OriHimegami I'm praying cause that game is my favorite
Animal parade was my first Harvest moon game and it was amazing 😍😍 I sunk so many hours into that game and even my granny and mum started paying it, and mum never plays video games and my granny used to only play platform games 🥰 I would happily have that game on switch
I think hero of leaf valley has a better model tho
Tbh I'm more used to the 3DS models
I've been playing harvest moon for years, and I knew about the separation but man, I respect you for playing the newer ones that I didn't want to play and save me from playing them
Oh man trust me, after seeing what the game looked like, I didn't want to play it either.
@@vtea oh btw, I am u/emordrak, and saw that post of yours on Reddit and I really liked your video. So I'm interested into seeing more content in the future
@@danielmoreira9599 Thanks man, it's kind words like those that motivate me. Hopefully ur as pumped up for it as I am!
"What's worse than being bad is being mediocre"
Everyone: Hey can you actually make this trashy $40 game a full finished game?
Natsume: Wanna buy two unoriginal characters for $6 instead?
Tbh the whole game isn't even worth $6, let alone $6 for the DLC.
Morale of the story:
Buy Story of Seasons or Stardew Valley :)
The SNES version of Harvest Moon (yes, that 8bit one) was my shit until I got Stardew Valley
And RF4 Special and RF5 when that drops next year.
An individual of culture, I see.
Or rune factory
Or Rune Factory
Marvelous inc is the company that makes the saga that we love, (the real HarvestMoon). In Japan, the saga name is bokujou Monogatari, and if you search it you will see that the games that we now as Story of Seasons in Japan are Bokumono too. I Hate the fact that Marvelous couldn't keep using the name "harvest moon" in the English translation, but the thing I hate the most is that Natsume is using the name to earn money while damaging a precious game, I mean, not all people know about this issue and why the HM light of hope is so lame, some people just think that the saga that we love started to sink, and that is sad :'C. So please if you love the saga please still supporting the game by playing the Story of Seasons games.
Agreed!
This is how I accidentally bought Light of Hope lol. I forgot about the split and I had just gotten my Switch and just wanted a game with it. It was Harvest Moon, so it had to be a good game, right? I realized my mistake later when the game kept disappointing me lol.
@@pauieeepau Another one fallen prey to the clutches of Natsume's money grubbing hands....
People so dumb dont even know the different between publisher and developer xD
@@Rioreia_ well, now Natsume is making games too, so is easy to fall if you didn't knew about the split or which company make the game xD
Natsume wasn't even that good of a localizer in the first place. If I had a dollar for every spelling or grammar mistake they made and features they broke, I'd be living in a mansion with no student loan debt. Hell, on the first HM game, they spelled their own company name wrong.
LOL wow that's a bit of trivia about Natsume I didn't know about.
Natume!!!
The amount of times I would come across Japanese dialogue in Natsume's "translated" games is ridiculous
@@SoulWingz and then Carter had a line in German in fomt for some fun reason.
Litterally thought he was possessed by satan
Well i guess this game isnt “Marvelous” anymore
God dammit, take my thumbs up
I completely agree with this. Ever since the Split, Natsume keeps digging Harvest Moon's namesake deeper into it's grave. Marvelous is the true makers of the series since the very beginning and they still make fantastic farming games under Story of Seasons today and in the future as well. Natsume... just please... stop...
I would be interested in a "why stardew valley is great" type of video!
You really want to watch a 6 hour long video of me gushing over Stardew Valley xD?
@@vtea I'd watch that haha
@@vtea yes
@@vtea I've watched the 7-hour long review of the Pokémon Third generation remake, I'll gladly watch an in-depth analysis of Stardew Valley.
Heck, I had to stop playing SV due to how addicted I was to it.
How about harvest town?
I definitely feel like this would have worked out better as Natsume’s HM vs Marvelous’ HM/SoS rather than comparison to Stardew Valley. A lot of the points for SV end up going to back to Friends of Mineral Town, so I wish there was more comparison to SoS to really show the jarring differences and how Natsume ruined the name of the series.
Regardless, I liked the video overall, looking forward to more.
Yea in hindsight I think you're right, and I was thinking this as I was recording and editing. The video making process is hard because you have to sometimes comprise between a better product and even releasing the product and during my on/off time of 1.5 years while making this, I decided it's better to release it than change it a 4th time.
The main reason why I decided against not putting more Story of Seasons in this video is because, SoS as it's own critiques I would've gotten into, as well as that I'm not sure how much of the audience has played any of the SoS series. Pretty much everyone whose played Harvest Moon has played Stardew or Mineral Town to an extent, so I thought it was a good comparison.
Again, thank you for your feedback, it is always great to read comments like these and it's what motivates me to keep making videos!
@@vtea the problem is Stardew Valley is the most Harvest Moony game made by EITHER company in the last 10 years.
Natsume just milking the title "Harvest Moon" because they have the copyright.
It is objectively bad. Any art student will say something similar.
Asked some of my artsy-fartsy friends and they said: "yea it looks pretty bad."
As an artist myself, self taught and just for fun, I agree. I don't mind the character sprites but they need more details, shading, and texture.
If they needed to do all that to fix the art, they might as well redo it at that point.
Agreed
A hobbyist here but i don't know why they have to have 2D background with a 3D model if they want to make it at least make it presentable clearly this games doesn't care about the quality inducing the art i like the art style, however, the way they react turns me off
Natsume looks like a guest who kicked the homeowner from his house
I grow up with harvestmoon. even when i play SoS i still called it a harvestmoon, i dont know why habit maybe lol
It's really hard for me too ;_;
I love how the harvest goddess turned into Aqua.
They're both equally useless :/
I did like her form in animal parade
To be fair the H. goddess had always been useless (except minor stuff) the H. Goddess has always been and probably will be useless unless marvelous change thier H. goddess but since its a remake of mineral town that H.goddess is also useless (I mean if you romance the H. Goddess and she gave birth she's like oh great here's the kid good luck) Im like who's looking after the kid while I'm at work???? The dog???
@@scarletrose8766 how so?
Phantasia DeZign in HM friends of mineral town or similar to it the H Goddess like I said as soon as the child is Born ditches it in your house she also never in your house BTW she still stays in the pond ..... The only time you see her in the house is during indoor events but again you have a farm to work with yet she leaves your her child with you on the house unnatended I was also making a joke about the dog watching the kid cause I always put the dog inside the house (if that's what your wondering about) even when the kid get to start walking around (which I think there's an event for it she's like oh he's walking ..... Event ends...... Meanwhile H. goddess is not in the house ever she's probably The worst choice to be your kids mother .... Even worst than fuckin Karen at least karen tries..... While the H. Goddess basically does nothing outside the cutscene and events (dunno if they changed that on the remake)
Personally my favorite harvest Moon games were tree of tranquility and animal parade. I have pre ordered friends of mineral town as I have never played it. I hope it will be fun too. I enjoy Stardew valley and Rune factory 4 on my switch as well.
Im hyped for rune factory 5 whenever it comes out :3
I am as well
I'm so excited for RF5 I've been addicted to SoS FoMT. No idea when they're releasing it now that I'm sure production was pushed back due to a particular global event
Litterally cant wait, I've been deprived of Runefactory for years now
I feel the absolute best was magical melodies for Gamecube and secondly the Harvest moon DS (circa 2005). I like that Story of seasons has that same chibi style that was featured on magical melodies.
With the release of Story of Seasons: friends of mineral town hopefully most if not all Harvest Moon fans are now aware of what the "true Harvest Moon" is and that they should continue buying the Story of Seasons game.
Its not really the hardcore fans that I'm worried about, Harvest moon has become synonymous as "the" farming sim game and with the recent popularity of Stardew Valley, people might be looking for the newest title thinking it might be good... and then you have this hot mess...
@@vtea I was thinking, isn't it scammy for natsume to use the name as they use even if they owned? basically they are scamming people by stealing identity, even if they own the identity, they actually aren't that identity.
That kind of stuff should be illegal.
Marvelous got the good kid in the divorce.
Marvelous got the house, the car, and the dog because it was their hard work. Natsume, who coasted off their success and bragged that they were just as successful, got nothing.
the thing that makes farm sims fun are the characters that make you want to keep coming back and working harder to get your best villagers some GIFTS
Makes me sad that most farming sim games have limited dialog...
This game looks like something you'd see in one of those creepy nursery rhyme videos.
Mad respect for actually finishing this pile of shit.
I wouldn't have bothered to even glance at it.
As painful as it was, I was thankful this game was fast to beat... I guess that's one of the pros of having almost no content in your game.
Do you know rune factory series? Those are great game. They started as a spinoff of harvest moon or story of season but later on became a standalone series with its own amazing lore, character, combat, etc.
RUNE FACTORY 5 IS HERE YEAH!!!
It's good, and I'm looking forward to rune factory 5
Thank you! the harvest moon games (now SOS) and rune factory are literally my favorite games and you pointed out everything I had in mind when I decided to buy the shit show that is Light Of Hope. Trio of towns is pretty good tho, so if someone wants to see what sos has been up to you can cheek it out.
Rune factory 5... I litterally cried when I saw it was announced!
@@vtea I know! I also cried when they announced it haha. I'm so excited for that
Well, Natsume's newest Harvest moon is essentially plagiarism of the original creator's New remake of friends of mineral town. Natsume was the localizer for Marvelous' NA releases, but now they own the Harvest Moon name, so Marvelous had to call the games by a new name, and they chose Story of Seasons.
Natsume as a company had already lost me on their versions of Harvest Moon releases, but I'll be honest, I'm looking forward to their upcoming release because I want to see if they do a 180 from the mess LoH was. Probably going to be disapointed not gonna lie.
Also, this is an excellent debut video. I'm subbing, and I look forward to seeing what content you bring in the future! Best of luck!
Thanks for the kind words, it means the world to me :3
Friendship ended with Harvest Moon, now my best friend is Story of Seasons🤝
My brother just recommended your channel, and tbh I really like it
STORY OF SEASONS: Friends of Mineral Town
YES
That explains Rune Factory removing the fantasy harvest moon on there titles.
Of all the games I've downloaded (totally legit lol) the one that my internet company found out about was sims medieval.
SO INTERNET COMPANYS ACTUALLY DO SNITCH ON YOU!
@@vtea yup. And for a game over a decade old.
I had a friend pick up a newer HM title and they said they'd never try another HM game and I had to explain why they should pick up an older one when they get the chance. It might seems really silly to those who aren't familiar with HM, but HM was such a huge part of my childhood, I don't want to see it become villainized because someone decided to profit off of the title later on. So I do try to put this information out there when I can. ❤️
Dude I found your channel on a critique thread for the card game video and your content quality blows me away. This video is super well done, and you hit the nail on the head about what makes these games fun. I can't wait for future content.
There's a lot that makes these games fun and I think it appeals to a lot of people because of their "play how you want to play" mentality. Thanks for the kind words, it means a lot to me
Harvest moon fans should just jump onto playing games under the story of seasons franchise... I have played light of hope because I love harvest moon, but the game was a bore... reaaaaallyyy... way below what I expected it to be... it was an utter waste of time to play that game
I'm sorry you had to endure that ;_;
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Agreed, and to be honest, I only bought Light of Hope on boxing day--while it was 50% off.
This is the last piece of the puzzle the FBI needs ,a confession video.
DONT U SNITCH D:
@@vtea I won't!! Lmao We gotchu no worries. I pre-ordered story of seasons friends of mineral town but ..I heard too late that it will also be on steam...I sort of regret it because I know people might make mods for PC...but the strawberry cow plush....actually NA's pre order bonus is nicer than what they got in Japan apparently?
im a bit late but I gotta say i loved the way this video was formatted, animated, narrated, structured, edited, and executed. Thank you for making this.
Thank you for watching!
when you flashed ham-ham heartbreak on the screen I immediately subscribed. I fucking love that game and I've had it on nearly every cell phone I've ever owned on an emulator and continued to play it well into my adult life and I've literally NEVER heard another soul even mention it. I'm shook.
also I caught the big gey, but joke's on you, I was already medium gey so I actually leveled up.
Hamtaro hamham heartbreak is underrated, I gotta represent!
heck yeah man! that game is way better than it has any right to be, honestly. all the hamtaro games are solid though, it's so unexpected!
I have the oldest versions I can play with a GBA emulator in my PC & laptop, for nostalgia's sake. But now my attention is paid toward Stardew Valley, which actually honours & completely enhances Harvest Moon in every way, even if it's a westernised & modernised, moddable version. Friends & More Friends of Mineral Town are my limits to the whole franchise though, which I love because I can play as a boy or a girl and the maps are extensive. But I don't need too many versions of HM anyway so I'm happy with what I already tried & currently have. If I ever buy a console, I'll buy one copy of HM.
Same!
I hope you'll play and review Story of Seasons: Friends of Mineral Town!
I already preordered it :3
Mad props for learning video making just for this- would never have guessed it was your first, it’s great!
Aw thanks! I already knew a little bit of the basics, but script writing and recording was a learning experience, always striving to be better!
wow this is a really good video!! i grew up playing friends of mineral town on my ds (my dad pirated it also... lol) and it's kinda sad seeing what happened to the series now, but i've been playing stardew valley the past few months and am definitely obsessed. i have so much respect for concerned ape and i'm so excited for the 1.5 update :3
Lol thanks for watching! I feel the same way about stardew, love the game, mad respect for concerned ape and super hyped for 1.5!
Dude I just stumbled upon your video on my recommendation list, and I found gold 😂. I'm really sad what Natsume is doing with the Harvest Moon name. But at least we'll be getting Story of Seasons games from now on! I'm playing the FoMT remake right now, and so far I like it. While it's not exactly the same as the original game, if you think about it as kind of a "new" game, it's pretty good. The quality of life improvements certainly help a lot! And as for the character changes, well I guess it can be either good or bad depending on people's preference. While it kinda lose the nostalgic factor, it gains in new experience.
Wow, youtube is actually recommending me now... feels weird.... in anycase, I'm no life-ing the remake right now as well! So far, I think it's a super faithful remake, apart from the character redesigns, some of them I love, some of them I dislike (duke and manna), I think the quality of life improvements (stackable items, energy meter, being able to walk through crops) make the experience a lot better. Stay tuned, I'll be giving my full thoughts in a future video :3
@@vtea totally agree with you on Duke and Manna, they look like totally different characters 😂
You're right, those maps look like they were made on RPG Maker's original tile set
I hope that you know the old Harvest Moon isn't the same new Harvest Moon game. Natsume only publish the old Harvest Moon games and making the new Harvest Moon games. However, Story of Season is like the old Harvest Moon. Also, I don't believe Natsume should stop making games, but they should get better at making games.
Already discussed Natsume's split from the old harvest moon devs (Marvelous) and their role in the older games as publishers in the video. Also, I would be completely fine if Natsume kept making games and gradually got better (more farming sim games yay!) , but that's just not the case with their current track record, they are content with dishing out mediocre entries under the "Harvest Moon" branding because Harvest Moon is already a well established series of games. That being said, I genuinely want them to prove me wrong, but deep down I know they're going to fall short.
@@vtea mm-hmm. Oh, have you seen the trailer for harvest moon one world? At least light of hope had color/texture.
@@SairinEarthsea the art direction is better and more consistant, but there's a few things that I noticed. Either game is no where near complete yet, or yet again, they're cutting corners. Since this is to be released in fall, they're probably cutting corners...
The npc idle looks SUPER stiff, might as well have them T-Pose.
The ground still barely has any texture, its ALMOST one whole color.
Not exactly sure but did they reuse the digging animation from LoH?
All in all, they've failed to show anything spectacular with this debut trailer. Its probably going to suffer from the same problems LoH had, but with a coat of fresh paint, problems being bare bones with no additional content besides farming/NPC marriage/and other activities like mining/fishing. Sorry for being so pessimistic, but its Natsume we're talking about :/
@@vtea you're fine and honestly I was thinking the same. LoH looked like a mobile game in beta, it had potential to be, uh, something if they would have continued adding plot, animation, events, and areas through dlc. One world, however, looks like a cheaper version of a mobile game run through a GBA and then ported to a N64. I don't know the storyline yet but I don't think it's going to take long for to complete it, as long as they don't add rare items available through microtransactions or online trading. The cows are kind of creepy how they move/glide across the screen, I don't want to milk that.
"I dont want to milk that"
Lol it's funny without context
I played the Minecraft looking one when it came out, my copy had some type of glitch preventing an important story character from working properly
Tbh since it's a game natsume made, I wouldn't be surprised if it was intentional
Switch Friends if Mineral Town is pretty awesome. I wouldn’t play the new Harvest Moon. Story of Seasons only.
Yup, same
So i had this recommended by yt, and i can say that I'm honestly impressed by this video even though this channel has a low sub count. You can consider me a new subscriber now
WOW! I guess barging into RUclips HQ and threatening them to promote me worked...
@@vtea Indeed
Thank you for making this video been trying tl explain this to people and this explains what happened way better.
Currently making a video on the new friends of mineral town remake, theres a section where I talk about the split again in a way where it's more "understandable" (probably could have elaborated sooner and more concisely in this video)
That was one of the most worthwhile gaming reviews I have ever seen
Aww that means a lot to me! Be ready for the next one! (After the Halloween video)
YES. THE EXACT GAME I LOVE.
Even many years later, even if it can’t be played, it’s still talked about and discussed, part of many people’s childhood and memories.
Don’t look for ”Harvest Moon” games now, you should look for “Story of Seasons” which is the real and original Harvest Moon. A story of seasons game recently just came out for Nintendo Switch not too long ago!
And also, I just realised this is an older video :3 but it just got recommend to me!
Ehhh, better late than never... seriously, idk why it took YT forever to try and recommend this...
Rune factory is acually good tho, loved the entire series
RUNE FACTORY GETS IT'S OWN VIDEO, THAT'S HOW SPECIAL IT IS
The Outsiders Thank god some people still play the game. The series was awesome
The Outsiders Harvest Moon/Story of Season with dragons. What’s not to love?
This video and the comments are making me happy, y'all are my people
so wholesome ;_;
@@vtea Thanks! And thanks for the video
At one point I was just looking for games to play on my Switch/2DS, and I saw the Harvest Moon games by Natsume. I was considering buying it, but something about the artwork on the cover itself looks off... So I put it back on the shelf.
Good choice
Harvest moon games should have graphics just like in the Harvest Moon Back of Nature game if there is a new part and the story continues
I wouldn't mind if they just reused assets from mineral town and just expanded the town, areas and characters.
"I completed the main game in 6 hours"
Me, who spent close to 40 hours on the "20 or so hours" of Rune Factory 3: *Angery*
so sad to hear that there is less content to do in the newest versions of Harvest moon, My favorite part about Harvest moon was how much content was available to you and how many ways you can play it, and because of all the events you always had to keep a reminder in your head and that made you excited to play the game keeping a mental note in your head saying, there is something that will happen
I'm replaying the game now for nostalgia sake and I didn't even know there was a boulder behind the lake mine, the existence of the cursed tools or that you could get married (yes I'm stupid)
there was always something you could do in that game, whether it be all the selection of events given or in-game Items to collect ie. Jewel of truth, Kappa jewels or the powerberries
I had a file where I played for like 12 years in game, its definitely one of my favorites!
Well now I have my answer as to why the game I bought a few days didn't have the Harvest Moon title, when I knew for a fact Mineral Town was mentioned in 'A Wonderful Life(gamecube)' as a town you could apparently visit if you had it for the gameboy.
Thank you for indirectly letting me know to look for Story of Seasons, rather than Harvest Moon, now!
Glad to know I helped!
Subbed as soon as I heard the Phoenix Wright music ;3
You know it
It’s a pandemic. Of course I have nothing better to do than pause a video and read a giant wall of text.
wait out of topic but i love how you used phoenix wright ost in the background as you talked hahahaha
GOTTA LAY DOWN THE FACTS
9:34 that line feel so perfect.
it feels so good knowing people got the reference
The worst thing that a game can be is mediocre, you can be so bad it's good or just good and you will be remembered for at least a while, but a mediocre game will never be remembered.
It also really doesn't help that the core farming mechanic, the crop mutation, is actually kind of a pain in the butt that over-relies on players being willing to look stuff up in online guides.
I actually kind of liked the Minecraft type mechanics, but I wish they'd actually made them more like Minecraft in terms of the block stacking and crafting. It was kind of half-assed Harvest Moon mixed with Half-assed Minecraft. By contrast Dragon Quest Builders 1 and 2 both take the Minecraft formula and make it better by adding a Dragon Quest storyline and characters to Minecraft's block stacking and crafting mechanics. So like one of the things the first two Natsume Harvest Moon games did was encourage you to terraform your farm to add things like interesting landmarks. The problem? They didn't give us most of the tools that Minecraft gives you, like you don't have a bucket to transport water from an area where it is to an area where it isn't so making something like a fountain is a simple exercise in stacking blocks and then adding a water tile to the top block to make the splishy splashy happen. Instead you have to build a massive aqueduct to transport your water from the river system the game gives you all the way to your fountain, then of course when you're done transporting the water you have to demolish your aqueduct. And all this takes days in game because you still have to worry about your stamina whereas Minecraft and DQB have no stamina meter so you can build as much as you want.
Pretty much nailed on the head why a Harvest Moon X Minecraft would've been amazing if it wasn't Natsume who made it. It still has potential and I hope some Indie developer somewhere does something with the idea.
VTea Agreed. I do feel bad for Natsume because Harvest Moon was their most successful franchise back when they were just localizing. I can understand why they’d want to keep the gravy train going they’re just really bad at making original games.
Tbh I would feel bad for them... if they weren't trying to be deceptive about it... Natsume keeps trying to convince people that they're the dev's responsible for original and at this point it kinda feels like a cash grab than a genuine attempt at keeping their franchise running.
I like the last part, good vids btw XDD
Harvest Moon Friends of Mineral Town and DS ver. are the only games i can't let go and still play to this day
People keep talking about Harvest Moon DS, but I personally couldn't get past the jumping sound effect... it sounded so cheesey, idk why they changed it...
It's almost like they made a cash grabbing phone app game and slapped the "Harvest Moon" title on it to trick die hard fans into buying it, then when they got called them on their crap, pushed it to console saying, "oh we fixed it to give it the Harvest Moon seal of equality," to try to trick die hards all a second time with the same phone app with minimal changes. Then they chalk it up to people being burn out of farming simulators as an excuse when people don't like it.
Exactly this :
SoS FoMT is soooo frickin good I used to love playing harvest moon so I’m happy
I just cant help but click on this video whenever it pops up on my recommendations!
As well as comment to improve user interaction!
@@vtea Jaja yes indeed I'm not being held against my will or anything either haha
whats your opinion on story of seasons 2014? id love to hear, since i enjoy it, but the only game ive played before the name change was animal parade, so my view of harvest moon is way different than veterans
I think the the "handholdy-ness" was a bit too much at the beginning, but I did like the ambition that went into the mechanics of the game, it was slightly more complex than I would've anticipated with the crafting/trade depot and I love that! But overall, I think the gameplay was a bit too "slow paced" for me.
I'm so glad my first Harvest Moon game was Stardew Valley.
Blessed
@@vtea I really enjoyed this......video....essay?
I didn't even know the original makers of Harvest Moon had renamed the series for the american market, I would think about playing it, but honestly I think I'm okay with waiting another 10 years for ConcernedApe to put out another game. :|
Honestly, this video is my pent up spite for Natsume over the past few years, also Concered Ape is STILL adding to stardew, mans a legend
Ace attorney as background music
Yeah
You noticed!
Ace attorney and mineral town are my faves. I still play it now and won't get bored.
In july!!!
I got my preorder in for it. Yay.
This was actually very well done man! Excellent review of what makes real HM games wholesome and wonderful. I really feel this
Aww thanks! Im working on a review for the Story of Seasons FoMT remake, its gonna be in a similar style hopefully you'll stick around and watch it when it's done!
@@vtea of course! I am really looking forward to more works!
Wait... You're telling me "Light of Hope" isn't the mobile shovel-ware game of the series? Christ almighty, "Back to Nature" was Mom's absolute favorite and she'd play hours on end and she adores Stardew Valley so much. I don't want her to know what the Havest Moon titles have become, there's no way she would expect this.
In addition to the exceptional Stardew Valley, "My Time at Portia" and the upcoming "Ooblets" while not strictly farming games--the former focuses on general crafting and assembling, the latter focuses on creature collection--are well worth checking out if you need more farming sims. My Time at Portia has fantastically written characters who have a wonderful mix of optimism and a "go-getter" attitude in spite of the rather dark lore and backstory of the game that really makes you care about them and makes them feel proactive, which very few game NPCs achieve, which makes you care about them even more! In addition the dating system encompasses platonic play dates, so you can have your spouse, take them out for romantic fireworks and stargazing on in-game Saturday, take her best friend out for Sunday brunch to catch up and play on the playground with them, and just hang out with your menagerie of buddies as you feel.
"Ooblets" looks like pure fun nonsense, though I'd wait until their Epic exclusivity deal runs out and they can migrate to Steam, it would also give them time to finish their early access.
"Slime Rancher" doesn't really have much in the way of NPC interaction, but makes up for it in exploration and a sense of wonder with a beautiful jewel-colored and refined art style.
Anyone got any more suggestions?
EDIT: Almost forgot about "Graveyard Keeper" which has a much darker tone and has a villain protagonist as the player character, but uses it to full advantage with linear, but beautifully interwoven, character-driven storylines and a bit of dark humor.
I tried graveyard keeper and its great! I also bought my time at port but haven't played it yet :3
It's not Harvest Moon. The Harvest Moon your move loved so much is currently known as Story of Seasons. The Harvest Moon of today is the rip-off.
@@NateLeonhart Kinda established that during the video
@@vtea yeah, I hadn't reached that part of the video yet.
Man seeing a franchise you love years ago and seeing the newest instalment being an absolute disaster is totally heartbreaking
It really is... corporate greed is the reason why we cant have nice things...
I played one of the first harvest moons on PS1 many many years ago, and it's still a favorite to this day. It's sad to see how it's fallen like this.
This video is so underrated! I've only played the rune factory 3 and Stardew valley after friends of mineral town on the gba. Didn't know that the mainline series were this bad.
Only natusme's games after their split with marvelous are that bad!
EDIT2: HEY GUYS THE STORY OF SEASONS: FOMT VIDEO IS OUT! :
ruclips.net/video/OtG7XeGVRLA/видео.html
EDIT: 15:00 I meant to say 2013, my bad
Have you try playing the doraemon story of seasons? The graphics are like dreamy water colour based, it is beautiful and it has tons of events going on, while keeping the basic farming simulation. If u havent tried it yet, I recon u to at least look into the graphics and brief stories(the intro is a bit long in this game tho). And when i look at that game,i was wondering dude why natsume isnt improving on graphics and storylines, story of seasons series have more sophisticated ones. I heard that natsume blocked those who gave bad comments on twitter. 😱
Time to get blocked on Twitter, also haven't played doraemon, mainly because it just seemed really out of place for a SoS game, but people have been recommending it to me, so I guess I'll have to eventually give it a try.
@@vlee7025 I really like the art style and also the graphics....I like how the characters are from a cartoon but the protraits are not as cartoon looking as other games like sos friends of mineral town.the only problem is that the character's are too plain.@VTea definitely try it out
@@vtea have you ever tried harvest moon tales of two towns?
I have! And I liked the dynamic between the two towns, overall enjoyed the characters, though I feel there could be "more to do" content wise. Haven't played trio of towns yet though, so I'm hopeful for it!
This game in pc become a point and click game.....
You just click everything with your mouse
It's almost as if it was designed to be a mobile game
But Harvest Moon's name is just legend, i feel bad for the Name
Also, I need to know which mod you use for the villager portraits of Stardew Valley! :D I want my villagers looking like that, too!
Ohodavi's anime portrait mod on Nexus mods, one of my favorite creators on the platform!
"Generic and Shallow"
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The harvest moon name is very dead, I have loved these games very much for a long long time. Story of seasons keeps the art styles and romance in the games i fell in love with. Harvest Moon on the other hand has failed to keep the quality and heart of its name. It's rather sad. I enjoyed this video and very much agree with whats said. Natsume should just let the Harvest Moon games rest. I really hate seeing the Name of my old childhood game be ruined in such a way
I didn’t realize Stardew Valley was in an already established genre. Glad I started with the best one.
You're gonna regret that. You're gonna be just like me where every farming sim game you play is going to be ruined because you keep comparing it to stardew. It's both a blessing and a curse...
This was a well done video. You have earned a subscribe.
Ohh, I thank
I was seriously disappointed with the game can’t believe I bought it
Imagine buying this game for it's original retail price and getting this hot mess
They obviously tried to use as little effort to get as much money from the Harvest Moon name.
I agree :/
Let's see if they're gonna prove us wrong with their next release, but I doubt it
VTea They’re releasing “Harvest Moon: One world” and it looks worse ... go check it out.
@@souspoid9841 already did, its pretty bad
I always wondered why no one talks about the 3ds story of seasons game. Once I played new beginning and moved to sos and sos tot, I could never move back to the older games...and then I realized most people didn't know that it was Marvelous' who develops bokujou monogatari, and with Natsume still holding the copyright of the harvest moon title, it's easy for people who are not familiar with the series could be duped.
Tbh the reason why Natsume keeps making games is because the name sells no matter how little effort they put into them, also the transition between from Harvest Moon to Story of Seasons was so sudden for a long running series. Also I found it funny how Marvelous's and Natsume's last game together is titled, "A new beginning"
Curious to see your thoughts on winds of i think andos or whatever. I see many videos being optimistic for it lol
From the few seconds i saw on this games gameplay, you can SENSE how unfinished this looks. It literally looks like something you'd make with preexisting game engine models
I cant mentally force myself to compare this to the harvest moon i know, this looks so horrendously lifeless that my body LITERALLY CANT welcome this game to be apart of the original series for the sake of my own natural automatic instinct of self preservation.
Natsume is a disgrace for tainting this genre, all of my immune system feels like it needs to eradicate this game even if its something my hands hasn't even touched (and never will). I had a lot of fun when i was a kid and used to play a lot of harvest moon, its a pretty big chunk of my childhood.. This is just tragic
Beautifully written comment
If you like great progression, you must try one of the Atelier games!
WOAH! I haven't heard of this before, just looked at the gameplay, seems like my kind of game! Thanks for the suggestion!
What do you think of the remake of Friends of Minerial Town so far?
Also had you seen the One World trailer?
I think the FoMT remake has it's strengths and weaknesses. It is a super faithful remake and if you're playing it solely for the nostalgia factor alone, it's worth it. It's amazing because of all the QoL improvements, however FoMT is an old game (2003) which itself is a remake of Back to Nature (1999), and because of that, certain aspects of the game feel dated, but one could also say that it's this simplicity that's the charm of the game. That being said, its the best SoS game I've played so far.
One world trailer sucks, I don't expect the game to be good because if the game is going to be shipped in a few months, they have a ton of work to do since all the assets look bland and lifeless (Ground textures/lack of character animation).
Hey, have you ever played the Rune factory games? it's another farming sim game by Marvelous but you have to tame your livestock while it turns to beat you up
I have! I'm going to give my opinion on the series once rune factory 5 comes out, whenever that is...
@@vtea Rune Factory 4 is on the switch now they ported it from the 3ds awhile back
Yup, I loved the original games of Harvest moon. I was 8yrs when I played my first Harvest Moon game. I played the 3ds game and it was horrible. I returned the game the next day. Ugh, Natsume can dress it up and call their games harvest moon. But nope I'm done with them.
Agreed!
Harvest Moon friends of mineral town would be a good choice. So much to do and so many marriagable canadets.Definitely a good way to spend a lot of time.
Finally I found someone that thinks the same about the recent harvestmoon (more like story of season) games
I just know something was missing and make the game not fun but can't exactly pinpoint what's the problem.
Thanks for the informative video man!
Thanks! Glad to know this video was helpful/entertaining (kind of justifies the time spent on it)
I'm happy about pausing the video to not miss the comedic wall of text.^^
You caught the Big G̶e̶y̶ Happy
@@vtea Oh yeah!