Pioneers of Olive Town's Problematic Launch (Story of Seasons)
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- Опубликовано: 24 авг 2021
- Story of Seasons Pioneers of Olive Town has gotten a lot of updates since it's launch and in this animated review, I talk about the problems it's had, what Marvelous has done to fix it, and it's overall impact on the game as of the 1.0.7 update. I honestly could have waited for the 1.0.8 update, but the animations were already taking too long as it is, sorry... On the bright side I got to talk about my opinions of the DLC and patches that came out. Overall I think SoS: Poot is an "okay" game, and if it ever goes on sale (not like Nintendo games ever go on sale) it would be a reasonable buy. At 60$ though? Not a chance...
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HEY GUYS! I MADE A MISTAKE @ 1:22, I meant to say you can marry people of THE SAME GENDER not the opposite.
WHOOOOPS
I can’t believe you’ve done this
we knew what you meant
The developers wanted a delay for this game after there had been issues with the previous team and a new one was allocated but the corporate didn’t care and wanted the game to be released as soon as possible because it had been too long for SoS to come on Switch. Apparently they wanted the game to be an open world game, no wonder all the assets are completely developed in 3D. They even planned to have more areas near your farm for the base game but they simply didn’t have enough time. Story of Seasons peaked with Trio of Towns because there was always so much to do. However ever since the transition to Switch, it’s all been downhill. But I am certain that this series will eventually get better, Marvelous just needs to give proper attention to this series.
You do realize the reason it peek at trio of towns , was because it was handled by a different Director. Since they changed Directors the quality dropped.
Not sure about the validity of this, but it honestly makes a lot of sense. Even the name "Pioneers of Olive Town" made be believe this was more open world before I saw the gameplay trailer. An area expansion with more stuff to do is a DLC I would LOVE to see in the future, but honestly I feel at this point Marvelous would rather work on a new project than do that since they already had their DLC planned since launch.
Maybe I'm cynical BUT I'm hating this era of buy now ($60 is too damn much) and patch later. Like, dude. You (the gaming company) have the full payment but I still have a half baked game. Yuck this practice.
It's a problem with the whole gaming industry, and tbh its because we keep buying into it
They are trying to copy development formulas of the more profitable mobile games. Sadly, they are free games, and we are paying 60 dollars for this.
I 100% agree and it's aggravating because when a game releases I want to be able to buy and enjoy it - not wait 10-20 months for patches that may or may not come to make it playable.
This is a HUGE problem in the industry and i don't think it will get better anytime soon.
After seeing how long standing companies are handling these games I'm way more pumped for kick-started game devs
Specifically Coral Island and Sunny Side
I'm just waiting for the model of corporate gaming to die eventually (not going to happen but it's a wet dream)
I feel like the land customization is frustrating and kind of limited. I also dislike that they took portraits out. :( And the characters need to have more interesting personalities. AND finally, yes. The grinding...
Yea i stopped playing cause the DLC was just terrible and I was ALWAYS moving stuff around on the land because nothing looked right, or was big enough for what I was going for, which was a barn (turned into 3) and a grazing area, after all this there's no room for anything. and those ponds. god I hate those ponds.
I can’t believe I preordered it with all the DLC. My rule of thumb for buying games is for every dollar I spend on a game I expect to play it for an equal number of hours. This game just stresses me out. I’ve maybe put 25 hours into it.
I also can’t tell how old anyone is supposed to be and all the characters I found attractive are not eligible to romance. So what incentive do I have to even continue playing?!
I hate their choices for the returning DLC Characters, I mean dont get me wrong I like them, but we don't need 2 blond maid cafe girls and 2 blond edgy boiz
@@vtea not only that but from what I understand they stay on their little islands which don’t have much of anything and don’t ever participate in any town events 😩
I was so tempted to preorder and am now so glad I didn’t :( Don’t blame anyone who did though- it looked really promising
@@vtea I agree, Felicity and Neil are actually two of my favorite candidates tbh but they were horrible choices for the dlc :(
For Me, the biggest issue with the DLC is that players can't forage ANYTHING on their Islands! I love Raeger, but the DLC is super disappointing :(
you’ve probably heard this a bunch but you need to play SoS: 3oT for a video! I honestly think it set the standard for how all new SoS games should be but PoOT just didn’t deliver that.
Omg yes Sos 3oT is my absolute favorite and I adore it!
This should be pinned
3ot is amazing! ❤️
I enjoyed SOSTOT so much
This is so true!! sos tot is the best!
10:50 Booo! I want character portraits. Its hard to simp over a character if the person is blocked by my big ass head. I can't drool over a person's beauty if they're turned away.
Between RF4, RF5, FoMT and PoOT it feels like the Marvelous stretched themselves a bit thin while trying to remain competitive, maybe even underestimating the work load that comes with HD development.
They certainly wouldn't be alone, its easy to forget that they like other Nintendo/handheld centric devs have been working with GameCube level tech for a solid decade or two and suffered growing pains as a result. Its actually mind boggling to think about.
Woah! That's a pretty good point you have there, never really connected the dots like that. I wonder how people would feel about a new game with graphics similar to their older games if it meant it got more overall polish
New development team thats why the games drop in Quality, only game that still has some soul is rf5 since it made by the same Director but with a new team.
One element that does add less enjoyment is what was done to the festivals. Which is there are less of them. Like less animal festivals, harvest festivals, there is no cooking festival. Previous festivals I enjoyed are no longer there. Also, The dlc characters can't participate in them which makes the dlc less enjoyable.
Also, the egg festival, I am glad they are changing that one but honestly there isn't enough incentive to really take care of your products and feel accomplishment as much as previous entries.
Alsom the dlc areas I regret buying the dlc since it has not been worth the money. The marriage portions aren't as interesting as it is and the dlc areas are bland.
I barely have played the game much for months due to how bored I am and frustrated with the game play. This feels like my leas favorite Story of Seasons game which is disappointing since I was looking forward to it.
Why can't I put a storage box in my house?!?? Arrrgggg... why they haven't fixed this is unbelievable!!! The fridge is too small even with the upgraded houses. This is something I find to be very unappealing.
I've spent 50+ hours on this godforsaken SoS because I've spent $50+ ish for this game along with the DLC and I ain't letting that money go to waste XD
However I didn't notice how truly bad the game was before the QOL and its a total yikes. I agree with mostly everything you said. Now the crappiest thing to me was--the NPCS, especially the dialogues.
They're so empty that I skipped every single dialogue in the game most of the times. And I don't usually do that with older SoS games because the characters always got me interested. This game is so.... Soulless. Even the returning bachelor/ettes from the previous games don't make much sense to me like wow they move to somewhere, just recently, to fully furnished houses. I don't see the point at all, because they could've just used the tourist function and let the characters come to the inn if they want to.
I liked the new mechanics that they try to imitate from SDV but at the same time, this game is more of a heavy grinding simulator. There's no actual good festivals to look forward to, goals for fixing the town is too easy (heck what kind of magical protagonist appeared to fix the 'whole town' in a year), it's so bland, even after spending so many hours trying to probe every single thing in it.
That being said I always love the video and your humor, keep up the good work :D
My only fear is that Marvelous will look at PooT and decide to never use any of the mechanics they borrowed from Stardew. They'll conclude that "Ohh well, I guess the playerbase doesn't like these new mechanics", when in reality they just needed to flesh them out better. Not a bad game by any means, definitely playable, but theres so many ways it could've EASILY been better and maybe the next entry will take it to that next step (hopefully)
I finally feel validated after being so disappointed in preordering PoOT. I haven’t touched it since mid April and have been wondering how much the updates would change the game. Sadly it doesn’t seem like it added much. This game still feels like it has no heart. All that said, keep up the good work I really enjoyed this vid!!
14:26 Honestly, at this point this business model reminds me so very much of what EA has done to The Sims 4. Releasing a broken and mostly empty base game, only to shove down a gazillion paid DLCs down our throats (while still *not* fixing major game bugs after almost 7 years since release). I loathe the path that modern game development is taking. At least Marvelous strives to do better, but what good are these DLCs really? Two new, equally as empty locations with nothing to do? What a joke... And why strip away so many iconic features of past releases, like the expressive character sprites/pictures? No kissing scene at the wedding sure was a punch in the face; not that it would have mattered if other daily interactions with whom you're dating/married to would have felt more alive and... "romantic", I guess. This was also a huge turn-off for me. I live for the social and community aspects of these farming sims, but the characters in PoOT felt *very* uninspired to say the least. They have no personality apart from the stereotype they try to fit in to 😩
Oh god don't get me started with the Sim series... I'm heated just thinking about it. Im very disappointed with the DLCS, I'd rather see content updates that affect gameplay rather than add clothing or a new candidate
@@vtea I would love to hear your thoughts on the sims 4 and would definitely love to see videos on it, if thats something you're considering!
I bought this with the update... and I returned it. It just felt like I was grinding more than playing. Like stardew valley and havest moon have grinding towards the end, but PoOT was just grinding from the begining. My main problems were;
- the makers as mentioned, they took up so much space but had so many gaps, it just didn't look nice. And the processing time was frustrating and slow, and even with the storage increased to 10 its still clunky as hell. and the fact you can only put them on farmable land seems like such a waste. there were several good places to put them, and i wasnt allowed to. not being able to put chests in the house was just NO
- i feel like the trees grew back way too fast. and they had to in order to meet the crafting materials needed. But I'd clear a path to get to a different area and then i'd have to do it again 2 days later. As someone who likes to have their farm perfectly clear it was torture.
- added to this, I feel like the stamina requirements didn't match the pace of the rest of the progression. Like its pretty easy to unlock the second section of the farm, but once you do cutting a tree down sudenly takes a quater of your stamina. Even if you upgrade your tools it does't help that much.
- townsfolk were flat as hell. I stopped paying attention to what they said about 15 minutes in. it was the same everyday and noone really had a personality. and I was really sad they got rid of the portraits, those being one one of my favourite things of the SOS series. The artwork is so cute!!
- finally, in all good farming sims townsfolk have schedules and there are certain times and days where you can't meet certain people. so you have to kind of balance farming and interacting to become friends with everyone. within the first 15 minutes I worked out you can enter all the houses when theyre eating dinner and just talk to everyone then. like, the shops have closing times but they dont close. in stardew you cant enter stores/houses until a reasonable time. after you become friends that time gets looser. but in PoOT you can just wander around in their house/business whenever you want. so i just ignored them all day then did a circuit at the end of the day. its not fun, its just grinding everyone says the same thing.
To me, this just majorly missed the mark. You chase the next upgrade only to find it wasn't even worth it. Also I completely forgot the community tasks was an thing for 99% of my game play. That board needs to be somewhere more obvious.
Overall I felt they didnt prioritized the right things, balance and pacing was out of wack, character dialog was boring, lots of things were tedious/needed streamlining, BUT HEY AT LEAST IT LOOKS PRETTY
I just felt disappointed too when u could go inside ppl house even though they are not there. It feels weird when u entering private room of someone.. they did lock the door on previous game but now.. just why.. tbh i just reopened my 3ds and playing sos trio of towns and maybe play poot later
You could combine every love interest in this game, and none of them would ever come close to Wayne lol. Trio of Towns is very clearly the superior SoS entry at this point. Here's hoping the next Story of Seasons blows us out of the water, because it's almost impossible to tell which one is worse: Harvest Moon: One World or Pioneers of Olive Town. Honestly, the only thing that saves Olive Town is same-sex marriage, especially with Natsume being so flippant towards it.
I love trio of towns more tbh.
Just because they change the producer turn out that it truly affect the game
I've been hearing so many good things about ToT that I have to try it at some point
You can tell, is someone that doesn’t know anything about game enjoyment that made this game
10:10 "A short cut to the mine." I had a flashback of "Harvest Moon: Tale of Two Towns." When I finally got the tunnel to connect to the two towns un the mountain I felt like top dog. Bump the Havest Goddess, I'm the best thing in this place since wheat on bread.
Right!?
Also speaking of that game
The request system was so much better and rewarding!
Like seriously PoOT requests are a joke in comparison
Every time I feel like I'm going to buy this game, I watch a review video and go "nope, not today!".
Lmao, if you think you'll like it I heard it was on sale for 40$, at the end of the day I'm just some guy on the internet
@@vtea I just don't like the makers. We have them in Story of Seasons Trio of Towns and they are wonderful, you can craft 9 items at a time and each maker looks unique, unlike the jukeboxes you have in Pioneers. I juat want what's new but I hesitate because I'm not in love with what I am seeing.
the fact that you CAN'T TURN OBJECTS in your house is also sooooo frustrating -_-' It limit so much your interior.. Just why?.. I just want to put my bookcase against my left wall TT-TT Not like in a library in the middle of the room..
I was going to put that in the video, but I didnt know how to explain it without being overly wordy, thanks for the input!
after playing rune factory 4 on switch, story of seasons seems really disappointing for me and far from my expectation.
Nothing can beat Rune Factory, it's the only series I buy for sure. The rest is bye-bye
im still pissed i bought the DLC. lesson learned. this game was phoned the hell in
And the festivals?? What exactly am I working towards if theres nothing????
There is nothing, the game has clear mechanics for you to do stuff but no motivation or drive to actually do them willingly
Right! and you can't even use the DLC characters as husband or wife in festivals? Like wtf, why did i just buy this dlc then? Why did I spend this time marrying these characters?
As a longtime Stardew player, I was looking forward to trying Olive Town when they put out a week-long full game trial. Over the course of two days, I found that it literally did everything worse than Stardew. Farm clutter respawned way too fast, it doesn't tell you how much energy food restores, there's limited space in the shipping bin, the mines always looked the same, the festivals sucked (the egg hunt is literally a cutscene where you win automatically?!), and the non-stacking mine items was such a stupid decision, along with having a fade-out every time you got one identified. In the end, I didn't even make it to the end of the trial before I checked out.
Just get Stardew. It's only $15 and the developer has added great endgame content at no charge.
My soul left my body when you informed me that there’s mirage lumber on my farm. 😩
1:22 omg i can't believe they added hetero relationships to SoS
Shit idk how to fix this
EDIT: I pinned a comment talking about my OOPS, thanks for that sarcastic comment otherwise I would've never known
I thought about getting this game but might just wait for it to be on sale....
It's unfortunate. I really love Harvest Moon and Story of Seasons but it seems they are losing the sense of fun and ease.
GOOD LUCK TRYING TO GET A NINTENDO GAME FOR ANYTHING LESS THAN 60$ (No seriously good luck, it aint worth the full price)
@@vtea Premium Bundle is going for $40 atm.
What bugs me the most about this game is that this is the largest gap between Story of Seasons installments in the history of the franchise, unless we're counting that Doraemon game as an installment. What the hell were they doing these past five years?
I agree, it's pretty inexcusable that the game was released in the state it was in.
You know what would make for some great fulfilling DLC? More pets.... like more dog breeds (I want a scottish terrior or some of kind of terrier! D: and i want a siamese cat too! :(), like we could have a lot of the pets that were in Trio of Towns (like Capybaras!) or more barn animals like, again, in Trio of Towns.
I was so upset they didnt have a siamese cat ;
I hope when they make the next SoS game they'll bring back the features from the 3DS games. It's sad that this game was rushed. I like this game and still play it casually but I'm disappointed that there's no reverse confessions/proposals, no animal/crop/cooking/fashion competitions, pets not herding or collecting items, makers not processing 99 items, limited storage, less variety in hairstyles, no character portraits, spouses and child not foraging items for you etc. The pros to me were the character creation, those special places you unlock from the shrine and or harvest sprites, and the hydroculture plant.
I have a homebrewed 3ds (decided to put cfw on it since Nintendo wants to pull the plug on the eshop so suddenly), and today I started SoS: ToT since many consider it one of the best modern SoS games. So far I have to agree, despite being an avid player of Stardew Valley, the small town aesthetic is still fresh and charming there. I knew there was some entries on the switch but heard mixed opinions on PoOT. I think I'll look into the FoMT remake since I'm hearing mostly good things about that. :)
PooT isnt bad by any means, but I think they could have improved in a lot of ways. ALTHOUGH! Considering this is their first game in this style, it makes me hopeful for future releases, hopefully they can learn from their mistakes
You're spot on about town upgrades, I find myself not caring about it at all. Oh, we are getting more tourists! So what?
we get a fancier clock I guess lol 😂
I agree that the makers are bad so my solution was to sacrifice my winter bonus area to fill with my makers and hide other makers behind my barns and coops.
The updates REALLY did make them better, but honestly there should only really be like 4-5 types of makers to begin with. Lots of the makers just feel like bloat
please do review of coral island, i've been eyeing for it as well-
I'm a backer on kickstarter :3
Awesome review! I bought it at the end of June when I was going through a rough time. It brought me lots of joy! I still can be critical of it because it's a series I love so much.
Lol i was about to comment that they fixed a lot of things in that last update but here you are answering in the video last minute without me even saying anything WELL PLAYED. Especially knowing how i tend to comment on things you forget about But i do enjoy watching these
I have owned and played every single HM/SoS game...well ever. And I gotta say the games oddly peaked during the Wii Era with Tree of Tranquility and Animal Parade.
While I am enjoying POT (heh) it's just so...oddly micro managed. Which makes no sense because it's a farming game but in the older titles more time was put into characters, they felt engaging. Some were mean and had to warm up to you, others had real issues they were struggling with that made the town feel real. Now the most you get is a too cool for school guy who likes coffee much he's pretty nice over all. Were you used to have characters like Gil would told you you were poor and didn't want to give you the time of day.
Yes you had to manage your farm but really I feel like the town and character aspect of the game is so lacking which makes everything else feel so meh. I don't care about these people...why do I care of tourists come?
Tree of Tranquility was my shit! I might need to boot that back up on my Wii
Yep. Everything after Animal Parade feels kinda cash grabby and reskinned. Also Animal Parade is literally the perfect HM game imo as it gives you everything you can think of (except maybe haircuts) and they haven't made another game as complete as it
@@candiiboo Yeah me too. I just started booting it back up recently
Omg Animal Parade is good and I have fond memories of it. That's def what I'm going to do. Boot both of those soon
Series peaked at FoMT. Maybe Magical Melody. Stardew Valley is the new golden standard that *every* farm sim has to compare themselves to. At the least, Rune Factory has picked up the torch that it's father can no longer carry.
I incredibly like the idea of a farm/city sim where you go to a destitute town and have to help rebuild and upgrade the town while managing your farm. cleaning the ocean helping renovate the shops and services to gain access to more products and upgrades to benefit your farm or unlock new town events. It would give way more agency to building relationships with everyone in town and gives so many more avenues to progress.
I recently played Story of seasons Trio of towns again and i am a little shocked how much better it is. Yeah the pacing is slow and you have to grind and craft stuff too but i don't know i enjoyed it much more. Plus the characters have actual personalties and arn't so boring. In Pioniers of olivetown you can gift everyone weed and they love it. And what i noticed with the farming: when you pick up your crops you pick all of them up at once pro field. In oilvetown you can't do that as far as i know. You have to pick up every single one seperatly. It takes forever.
As someone who is currently developing a farming sim this video is incredibly valuable. I know have it linked on my trello board to reference during my play testing and QA modeling.
Honestly... Pioneers of Olive Town may be the last Ranch Story game I play. And that's horrifying to me because it is--or was--my favorite series. I have other issues with the game (I prefer Ranch Story games to Stardew Valley, for example), and I'm going to do my own review _eventually,_ but I agree with a lot of the things you've said. Then again, so does everybody. That's why those patches happened.
Even with the latest patches, the game still feels ehh, it's a lot less tedious now, but as far as gameplay, progression and characters, I find it to still be behind in comparison to previous titles. They did hint at another remake in the future and as far as I know sos:Fomt was pretty decent, so maybe that would be up your alley?
@@vtea We'll see. The worst part is that PoOT, afaik, sold _really_ well, and so I'm worried that Marvelous is going to take that as a sign that they should push harder in that direction. As for the remake, I'm hoping for Grand Bazaar. I just finished writing my review today and (obvious spoiler):
My conclusion is that it needs and deserves a remake, because it was so close to being so great, but needed a bit more polish.
I got the game trial this week cause I’ve been wanting to try a Story of Seasons game.
I like the game over all, but I don’t like how often stuff respawns (trees and grass) but also a lot of what you’ve pointed out about the makers.
I am happy I came across this video as I was looking for content for SoS! :D
I understand your points and it does make me sad how it’s went for the recent game, I truly do hope that improvements do happen for future games/updates as I grew up with the older SoS with Harvest Moon DS (Yes I know the terrible bugs but they a classic too XD) and to this day, still adore the older games and want to support the series! (;u;)
I’m more excited about a new video from you than being disappointed with Pioneers of Olive Town
Wow you must've been REALLY excited for my video in that case, sorry for taking my sweet time with this one
The way they designed the Makers confuses me, for how much space they take up, they don't do a lot. Would of made more sense to have them be their own building, where you can then improve the functionality of each maker, as it stands, they just turn into eyesores when building your farm.
In a world filled with endless content, I truly enjoy your videos! I love how invested you are in the Harvest Moon franchise and your humor is just A+. I really hope the game gets a bit more enjoyable with the coming updates but I would be lying if I said that I wasn't disappointed in Marvelous with this release.
Aww thank you! I really hope this game gets better too, honestly it isnt BAD as of the 1.0.7 update but I'm just hoping they're going to add a DLC that isnt just clothing or another returning character.
@@vtea well...i think we're on the final wave of dlc and you might kinda be disappointed...
So glad you did a video on this. Love seeing your vids!
I am currently not going to purchase the game until I Seymore than one review that isn't lackluster lol. Itching for RF5 though 😁
I actually never even notice the changes when i played it, it was like an event happened, they all thanked for the upgrade and i have no idea what even changed
A Wonderful Life’s getting a remake. Can’t wait for the series to get back on track.
There are a lot of valid criticisms of this game that would have made this a lot better but if i'm being honest i really love it. Especially after the makers, dialogue, and the recent chat camera update it really fixed many of the issues i had with it. You can see their faces when talking now i like that a lot. For me it was worth my money spent both the game and dlc. I would of liked it festivals were all interactive, the dlc villagers were able to interact with the town as tourist since that's a big theme for olive town. They could have schedules were they visit town on certain days and other villagers acknowledge them. They could have also put them all in one town with their own festivals instead of small separate and empty areas. I still felt the dlc was worth it for the outfits and all the new heart scenes.
I recently got into stardew valley and i love the depth but the lack of it doesn't make pioneers of olive town a bad town. Its a lot of fun and i'm still getting hours out of this game. Yeah i agree it should have been fixed before launch but better late than ever. I appreciate that they're trying. They're both different and good in their own ways. Its fun and yes a bit more simple than stardew but sometimes that what i want from my experience. I'm just glad i get to play both and i have options when i want different experiences. The genre is really picking up and there are so many games that are coming out that its gonna be really fun to see how differently each one comes out. All in all a great review :)
side note: i am curious as to how the virus effected this game and if it had a hand in some of the lackluster parts of this game. in a different reality where that never happened... what is this game like? :O [X files theme plays]
Very insightful comment, thanks dor watching!
@@vtea I look forward to your reviews I think they're very well done 😄
I got the game on release day as a birthday present but barely touched it. However now that all the quality of life updates have gone through I picked it up again and I am REALLY enjoying it. Well, okay, I don't like the sheer amount of silver ingots I need for everything, but at least I can take the game at my own pace. The change to the makers is super helpful in particular.
I want to give Marvelous the benefit of the doubt because PoOT and RF5 were meant to be released on anniversary years so there was probably huge pressure to get the games out without having time for performance review since COVID already caused delays. However I am going to carefully rethink my future purchases from this company now, which is a huge shame.
confused to how why you don't have more subscribers. Like why , what did you do? Loves the video btw.
Its because I only have time to post every 4 months apparently :/
The biggest downer for me is that if you talk to a villager you cannot see their faces anymore up there with the dialogue box. It kinda remove the immersiveness for me idk why they do that tbh most of the time I don't know whats the characters emotion when I'm talking to them
This is my first video I’ve seen from you and you’re underrated man… and I agree.. compared to the previous SoS/Harvest Moon games, the characters and town part are very lackluster to me and I can’t stand when the stupid grass, trees and rocks always respawn so dang fast
I'm so glad this is your first! I feel like I put a lot of work into this one despite it not performing as well. Also YEA! The respawning rocks and trees feels more like a chore to make my farm nice and tidy, rather than something I want to do for resources
What an underrated Video for the clear amount of effort put in.
Aww thanks! Appricate the comment
@@vtea was thinking of getting this game,
last time i played a harvest moon game was a wonderful life on the gamecube and i needed a game to unwind and i remembered the series,checked youtube for reviews and yours came up (the best one out of every one i watched about this game by the way)
started binging your videos and you finally tipped me over the edge...into buying my time at portia which was on my wishlist since it released and you know what im loving it.
thanks alot for all the hard work put into these, they really do ooze passion.
I like how this video came out a few days after the update that alleviates some of his gripes.
Trust me, if I tried to adapt that into the video it woulda taken another month
@@vtea oh I definitely understand that, no worries. It was just something I found amusing. My own video took months to make and I had to cut a lot out so it wouldn’t take another to finish.
The thing is, most people will have stopped bothering with or caring about PoOT completely at this point after its underwhelming launch.
Really would like to hear your take on the latest Rune Factory.
Great job by the way! Subscribed.
yea when's the rune factory 5 video coming out? 😅
Lol - that's a great opening. Love your channel. I'm a huge fan of SV and similar games. I felt like Pioneers was one of those games that did a few things well, had so much potential, but in the end really biffed it badly. I'm hoping this is one of those "sloppy" moments where a company tries a lot of things and that leads to refining into amazing future games but yeah, Olive Town's potential vs. what we got was....not great, IMO.
Also, @VTea do you think you're also gonna try playing/do a review on A New Leaf: Memories? Your reviews are really informative, especially for us, who loved 90s and early 2000s Harvest Moon games and Stardew Valley. I think most of us feel like Stardew raised the bar for farming sims. As for me, I'm always looking for something comparable to it when choosing what my next farming sim will be.
Thanks for bringing that to my attention, recently theres been a big boom in farming sim games being released, and it's hard to keep track of them all, but yes, I do eventually plan on tackling them down
That was an great video!
Thankfully Marvelous is adding patches to the game. With the recent 1.0.7(Now its 1.0.8 the time im writing this) they fixed the problem of the characters being emotionless and you can see their face properly if you turn on the feature on the menu(it only works if you don't have any obstacles in the way) I hope the new director learned something from this game after they finish patching the game including dlc.
And when the next Sos get announced/released, I hope its better than it turned to be in this game...(If the new director is still directing the series after this...)
Yup! They're definitely making steps in the right direction, but honestly the game shouldn't have been in the state it was in at launch. Apparently they've also had this issue with the launch of rune factory 5 in Japan and hopefully they've learned their lesson for the next release.
@@vtea yes that and even with the patches it still has too many issues
Thank you for addressing sorting
That drives me insane
I also think it’s weird that we can’t just have a quick menu for tools
The storage box thing is dumb too
Also the 3DS games had an “edit mode” and it was way better than the painful clear and place mechanics of this game
Especially big facilities like barns and coops…god that’s annoying
You can also waste the day away trying to revamp your land and then crap spawns again
In the edit mode time was frozen so it wasn’t a concern
The lack of areas is also dumb
I think wild areas that previous games had is a better solution
And if you do clear the land then the respawn should be slower because it’s like I just cleared something and it’s already in the way again!?
And the ponds omg I hate them
first vid of yours found when searching reviews of this game, instantly loved your art & energy & jokes
see, it's weird that the makers of this game changed it from the previous installment Trio of Towns in how the makers did item categories. like you'd have a mill, a sewing station, and so on. not a maker for each item :( it's so freaking tedious.
that's half of my problem with this game. the other half is how their stories of and interactions with the characters just feels so lifeless. I truly don't understand why, because the previous games were fantastic, Trio of Towns is awesome (and i cry bc i want a switch port), yet Olive Town just feels so lifeless. why?
smaller issues that I big agree: you can't *actually* decorate your home. it's bizarre you're limited to a small square for the most part that barely holds anything. another thing that drives me crazy is no auto-sort for adding items to chests. please for the love of god just let me put all my items in the existing stacks and be done with it.
Honestly Idk how I forgot to include how you cant rotate item placement which is wack on top of the bad decorating
I think you would really like Story of Seasons: Trio of Towns. It's the first hm game that's really made me care about the non marriageable villagers, and it's really fun. Plus the harder difficulty setting that unlocks makes it more fun to replay
You can load more into the makers however if I recall you have to come pick up the material before it'll make the next one.
I’m really glad that allowing LGBT relationships is becoming an industry standard lol. It really is a game breaker for me.
Also like that you can still have a baby just as easily.
Even the RF5 is getting it too
Right? I just finished A Wonderful Life and I played the original and hated there was no gay 😂
I've been playing HM since the snes, and my favorite game of the franchise is Story of Seasons for the 3ds. I never agree with videos about the HM/SoS games, but this one I strongly agree.
Great video! I just found your channel and this made me sub. Have you played My Time in Portia? It has a lot of things SoS seems to be missing. I'd love to hear your opinions on that game.
Theres ALLOTTAA farming sim games I still gotta play, its coral island, my time at Portia and trio of towns next
So glad I saw this video because I was going to buy this game but it's definitely not worth my time for sure. I do love the way the characters look. Always been Harvest Moon fan. So is this game not Harvest moon or is it something completely different?
Amazing vid- I was so excited for this game but honestly it just didn’t seem worth the money. Love the channel though :)
Aww thanks! And it really isnt for 60$, I'd say wait for a sale, but since its a Nintendo game, I highly doubt it would ever drop lower than what I would value it at (20~30$)
@@vtea completely agree, which is very disappointing :( Super hyped for rune factory 5 though!!!!
@@vtea Since it's not a first party Nintendo game who knows. I got MHGU for less than $20, and it's a Capcom. (Granted I got it like.. a couple years after it came out. But I've heard it's been on sale before and after that?)
Nintendo has been having sales on digital at least, surprisingly. I'm broke as a joke on Tuesday, I watch for this kind of thing. Physical is hit and miss, I imagine eventually depending where you find it you might be able to find it cheaper.
its $37 and $39 right now!
Just download the rom for it and use an emulator if you've got a good computer. That's what I did lmao
Merely 8k subscriber?? You sir are very underrated
OMG! A NEW VID AFTER A LONG MONTHS! ❤️
I PROMISE YALL ITS A GOOD ONE
Finally you came back 🙂
I don't have the game but I have watched game plays and almost EVERY PERSON has had beef and cheese with the makers. I'm watching the game plays like, "Damn. What happened to buying mess at the general store in the store and taking their entire stock?"
They play such a big role in the game when they REALLY DIDNT NEED TO, it's so annoying.
Dude the request system in previous games was way better
Like it’s so weirdly implemented in this game
I think in trio of town it was more like running errands and in tale of two towns it was just a better system
Sometimes the characters asked for multiple different things and you could get cash or items as rewards
You also could look at a request log to remind yourself of what you needed
They had time limits too but it could vary (not just a single day all the time)
Yknow I have a friend who hates Stardew for allowing the players to automate everything. He doesn't actually hate Stardew, he just has a strong reaction whenever someone praises Stardew. I wonder what he'd say to PoOT forcing the players to grind.
That said, I didnt mind it as much when Stardew lacks dialogues because mods exist (if I don't get one new dialogue each day, I won't see the point in visiting the town frequently for a CHANCE I'd get new dialogue that day). I was actually pissed for a bit at FoMT for this, denouncing it as a lazy cash grab (bought it anyway because I didn't properly pay for the pirated PS1 BTN back then...). If PoOT still doesnt understand that characters and dialogue is one of SoS's flagship features, I think I'm gonna pass on this one.
Edit: Oh, I see they're also still using the gigantism cow proportions. Yeah, I'm definitely gonna pass on this one. That big cow head creeps me out so much.
I swear to god if they somehow fuck up rune factory 5 i will scream for 1 week and not stop
The NA release is already confirmed for early next year and besides some FPS issues it looks pretty good (I imagine they fixed a lot of things wrong with it since the japanese release was earlier this year)
im just here trying to find people complaining about how tedious the seed maker in particular is lol
Oh shoot, ya found me
TBH, I don't even know what I updated when i did those quests, I noticed nothing different... besides getting the new shops...lol. The BIGGEST thing that turns me off from the game is the fact the the DLC husbands can't even be in cutscenes. Spent all this time and you can't even be apart of one of the best parts of the game! like WHHHHYYYY I PAID EXTRA FOR THIS! The DLC's are NOT worth it.
7:25 Who thought of that dumb idea?! If I want to put an eye sore of a box in the middle of my living room then let me gosh damn it.
Stardew Valley is made by one dude.
I wouldnt say it's a horrible game now that the updates came out,but I like the farming,but everything else is lacking,villagers,festivals it's a fun farm customization game,but it lacks soul everywhere else.
Definitely not horrible! But if they spent another year on it, I feel it wouldve been REALLY GOOD.
some ppl are being really overdramatic, the game is fine
I’ve always been a huge harvest moon fan, I love stardew valley. I was SO excited for this game, but I never play it. I honestly find it very tedious and I’m the type to happily grind on games. I preordered and paid for the expansion pass. Processing is annoying, and you use up way too much room on your farm with all the big clunky machines. It annoys the hell out of me having to run to the museum to appraise the same exact item all the time, I feel like if the items appraised once… why do I have to get it appraised every time I get it again? It makes me end up having chests of bags of “heavy objects” because I don’t feel like running to the museum every day. Even though they fixed a few things I still just can’t get down with it, I feel like I’m going to fall asleep each time I try to play it.
I’m glad I found a review that didn’t kiss this games ass like everyone else haha, this game disappointed the heck out of me. subscribed
Idk, I feel like theres a lot of people defending the game especially after all the QoL changes being made, but even after all of that I feel that the game still feels empty. Also, I honestly cant see how people could defend the game at launch, it was a mess.
what do you think of staxel?
The truth is we need Stardew Valley with SoS graphics. That would be the dream.
Did the latest update fix more of the frame drop?
They are slowly fixing frame drops with every update, but as of now, I'd be lying if I said there were no frame drops.
Sos poot had a different producer/director
In the previous ones it was yoshifumi hashimoto
Ahhh, it's finally here!!🙌🏻🙌🏻
IT BE HERE!
While the one item at a time hassle has been patched and its now 10 items at a time for the makers I agree there are just way too many makers.And for redundant actions too that had better solutions in past games (even when Marvelous was still working under the Harvest Moon titles). Here's just a small list of things previous SoS and Harvest Moon games that still worked under the Marvelous name did better than the ridiculous makers in Poot.
-To turn logs into wood planks you just had to chop the logs with your axe too
-In Animal Parade things like crafting materials (wood) and fodder were automatically sent to designated storage that wasn't actually a part of your regular storage (the fodder storage was down graded back in the next installment of handheld games and you had to build a silo in ToT)
-There were no flower restrictions on what could be a perfume and what couldn't. There was a default scent, then there were different scents and colors depending on what collection of flowers you used
-Certain cooked foods or drinks were profitable (and while cooking still hold good for restoring stamina and now gives you incentives if you do gourmet's cooking challenge there is no real reason to do it anymore. You'd still get all the things being rewarded, just at later times though other means)
-You could gain the trust and interact with wild animals (even get them as pets in Animal Parade and Tree of Tranquility, have you ever wanted a pet penguin? That was a thing you could have, a pet bear? What kind? Grisly, polar, or panda? Danger noodle? We gotchu. Squirrel? Heck yeah, Wild boar? Name it Kagura and you got yourself a deal. No pet foxes, but if they liked you enough in SoS you could carry them around and feed them. In A New Beginning if wild animals liked you enough they would bring you a gift of a foraged item to show their equal amount of love an adoration)
-You could customize your farm house, and town in A New Beginning (you could even *gasp* change the direction of the items you are placing
-In SoS there were designated plots of land around the town you could customize, and even then you could also still customize your farm land, house interior/exterior and could change the direction of items you placed down both inside the home and outside.
-Expressive character portraits or atmospheric animations to express emotions (thought bubbles, rainbows, scribble, hearts, etc.)
-Getting clothes was easier (again, in Animal Parade (can you tell which game in the series is my favorite?) new outfits could be purchased at a clothing store to get more you had to get enough hearts with the owner so she would ask you for help getting some stuff, special outfits could be found in festival stalls during said festivals.
-Crafting multiple different clothing material and dying them all at once in one maker shed and being given a set in game time it would take for the like items to finish crafting (SoS) (I think SoS handle crafting items better than Poot) (I could be crafting some gold linen, a rainbow of cotton cloth, 3 different yarns or thread all at the same time and have them stored in said maker until I walked back to my farm to pick in up and properly use it. OH, and you would be notified when an item was finished being crafted)
-The 4 seasons did not have the same amount of days and there were more seasonal events to keep things interesting
(pets festivals that showed off pet tricks you taught them
Animal races for: horses, sheep, cows, goats, ostrich's
Animal centric festivals
Flower festivals
Music festivals
Firework festivals
Fashion Shows
Beach festival (Magical Melody for the gamecube there was a swimming mini game you could play at this festival and win a prize if I recall right)
Can you guess which game had an actual fucking circus??? It was only the same cut scene, but you had to find the runaway circus animals first so for a time until you tracked them all down a new part of the scene would be added.
Stargazing festivals
Communal pot luck or thanksgiving-like festivals
Festivals that were specific in being used as a way to go on a date with a bachelor/bachlorette to deepen your relationship with them and earn more points in filling out the heart gauge and either you could pick who to go to the festival with or if you had enough hearts a bachelor/bachelorette would visit you in the morning of some time before or the day of and ask you themself.
ALSO:
-Smaller Love interest events were they would visit you when at certain heart levels and give you a gift because they were just thinking of you
-REVERSE LOVE CONFESSIONS AND PROPOSALS!!!!!! I don't want to have to do all the freakin work in this relationship if I dont have to. If the DS SoS and the Wii games can work in reverse love confessions and marriage proposals, why couldn't the Switch?
-Other potential love interest and love rivals getting together after developing enough friendship with them and they eventually falling for each other, marrying and having a kid (If the Wii console could do this for Tree of Tranquility and Animal Parade, then why can't the Switch? Friends of Mineral Town had love rivals return!) Fun fact: In ToT and AP if you optted to marry the Harvest Goddess or Harvest King (Because heck yeah you can do that if you work hard enough) then all the LI's in town will pair up with their designated LI if they have a high enough friendship with you (Also you can go to their weddings) and this is the only what to get all the other children. Because if you marry a LI from town, your LR will stay forever single.
-Child growth milestones (from new born, toddler, to young child) (Again, in ToT and AP you could have a younger and older sibling and it was noticeable)
-THE CHILDREN COULD ALL GO TO SCHOOL TOGETHER
ALL OF THESE GAMES STILL HAD MARVELOUS INVOLVED WITH THEM SO WHAT HAPPENED????
The first story of Seasons after the split had its problems, but it was still leagues better in regards to item crafting than Poot is. And while I haven't played Trio of Towns nearly as much as SoS or A New Begining, OR Animal Parade it still had perhaps a better request board-like set up with its side jobs that actually not only gave you an extra way to earn money early on, but was intrinsic to helping the 3 towns and it showed through a progress bar and then special requests to actually help fix something that was noticeably broken or the town was in need of. And then you actually SAW the difference it made. (Oh, West Town needs a new bridge that crosses the river? Sure, I'll help gather my share of the materials while the other residence pull together their share of the materials. Hey, would you look at that, the noticeably grey, old looking bridge was replaced with a newer one!)
Meanwhile in Poot, the Mayor asks what kind of renovations we should do to the road and what kind of style it should be, I alone gather the materials we need without any mention of maybe the towns carpenter offering to to the renovation, or even mention of the town folk gathering donations for it (where as in SoS Victoria would gather donations from Townfolk for the fireworks festival, and the more donated, the bigger the event was). And then when thats done you dont....you don't really see or notice anything different about the road. Your asked what kind of town you think Olive Town is but none of your answers impact the look of the town or even its music. Meanwhile, in A New Beginning you are given two areas that make up the town and are allowed to place the buildings anywhere in those area's, you can build and layout the sidewalk, fountains, make a park, put down flower pots.
I'm realizing this is turning into a poorly edited rant essay so imma just leave this here...
I'm starting to think that Starred Valley killed any chance of a Story of Seasons (let alone Rune Factory) ever getting popular.
I've kinda passed through the years from Harvest Moon to Story of Seasons to Stardew Valley and then Rune Factory. I'm so pumped for Rune Factory 5 to release in the west.
Actually there was a update to make makers take to to ten items at a time
Alsk new update to chat views where you see nee reactions
Towards the end of the video I talk about updates and considering the chat view update is really recent, it didnt make it into the video since this videos been in the works since the games release
I love your videos so much.
I enjoy harvest moon style games so much, but since stardew I cannot stand Marvelous games. They feel so slow and time wasting. I love their charachter designs but the gameplay is so frustrating. I am so hoping the indie alternatives are able to fulfill this itch.
I am patiently waiting for your next video. Have a wonderful time meanwhile!
Stardew has ruined every other farming sim game for me, I cant stop comparing things to it no matter what I do (to the dismay of my viewers)
That farmer made an important question in this video: “When is that Rune Factory 5 video coming?”😂
Whenever I decide to I grow out my hair and lose an eye I guess
@@vtea Lol 😂, I don’t want that to happen to you!
I hope your channel grows more...
It does get better but it was rough at first tbh
They sorta fixed the maxers in the update dlc
Now I'm convinced your channel is harvest moon/story of seasons exclusively
Trust me I want to do these types of videos on other games besides HM/SoS, any recommendations?
@@vtea can't think anything useful. How about, The Great Ace Attorney? If not, maybe making a poll asking other viewers?
AY YOU UPLOADED... please do well bud
I've uploaded and my life force has been rejuvenated for at least another 4 months
It's a shame that SoS PoOT isn't up to the usual level of enjoyment as other SoS/HM games. I still prefer it over Stardew Valley, *especially* when comparing the fishing mechanics and how Stardew can get to be too much that I drop it out of sheer stress, but I'd rather play SoS Friends of Mineral Town or the 3DS SoS games over PoOTs, or even go back to an older title like HM Save the Homeland or Animal Parade.
My biggest complaint would be PoOT's limited hit box range, as even the 3DS games had better range or I at least don't recall struggling with it nearly as badly, and the lack of customization for the inside of the house, plus cooking taking 30 minutes of game time to make one dish... Not even Trio of of Towns did that, and it let you stack your cooking, instead of one at a time.
That being said... I still do enjoy the game and I want to at least get married/get to the lowest part of the mines so I can do more upgrades, but I'm debating if I should wait for the last updates or just try to make due with what we got now.
Great video man
Great video!
One of the things that has kept me out of the genre is either lack of female player options or limited ones like (Married? Lol! No more game for you!) mechanics. So saying its just "insert year here" is underselling the issue a bit.