Turns Out The Dwemer Are Still Alive
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- Опубликовано: 17 июл 2020
- Skyrim and indeed the entire Elder Scrolls universe have long harbored many mysteries, however perhaps the greatest mystery in Elder Scrolls history is whatever happened to the Dwemer. The Dwemer, were of course a society of increadibly gifted elve native to modern day Skyrim and Morrowind who mysteriously vanished in the 700s of the First Era. In today's video we'll explore the theory that they very likely survived their disappearances and that the Dwemer are still out there somewhere in The Elder Scrolls universe.
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Note: The Dark Elves weren’t really around back in the day, the we’re actually called “The Chimer” back then. I had a big 7-minute tangent explaining that but cut it from the script!
Many of your (new Skyrim) videos have almost no new content, please take the time so look for new stuff! I enjoyed your videos for months/years and this video doesnt over much more content then your 5 dwemer facts video did...
Awesome video Nate! You’ve given me a lot of theory ideas to craft. If only Todd Howard was cool enough to do an interview on the show
Why? Rant on lol
So I'm gonna piss you off with this one but: The Dwemmer never actually made Air Ships. First thing we have that actually quallifies was made by Louis Beauchamp, a breton in Morrowind the Blood Moon Expansion... but canonically I can't find any evidence or even references to the Dwemmer building or using Air Ships.
Woohoo another dewmer investigation. I love you Nate.
They invented robots: *shows robot*
They invented mind reading device: *shows mind reading devices*
And even airships: *shows a random dude*
Nah dude that was an airship
Lol
Got any evidence that the dude can't fly? AH, THOUGHT SO.
Yeah, he shoulda showed the crashed ship in Solstheim
The dude was an airship
the dwemer obviously all died to their own traps. people installing spinning blades in their living room didn't work out so well
The amount of times I’ve walked into those god damn traps man.
Those are just security mechanisms that turned on after they disappeared lol
@@Aj-ud3ik you killed the vibe dude.
@@Aj-ud3ik
So what? Nothing confirmed those security measures were 100% safe
Hey hun can you fetch me a cup of coffee.
Hun?
Dude I literally went out of a dwemer ruin once at night looked at the stars and planets and moons and thought "maybe they went into space, seems to be the next logical step for an advanced civilization"
Did this just appear in your recommended also
@@MEEP83 I watched a few Skyrim clips the other day so clearly I've instigated the algorithm to show me more Skyrim clips
@@SevenPr1me this just appear randomly for me, it's been awhile since I watched anything on skyrim
I also thought this. Makes sense as to why they've all just vanished without a trace.
I could be wrong about this but aren't all the other planets just planes of oblivion ? Then where are they in space ? Just in the middle of nowhere?
Here's an intresting detail Nate forgot to mention. The dwemer, clearly, made experiments on an elder scroll, specifically, the dragon scroll. We know this due to the fact that the dragon scroll is found within the depths of black reach. Interestingly enough, the Dwemer either stole this scroll from the nords, or loaned it to them to defeat Alduin. Considering that the destruction of the world was at stake, the Dwemer might have aided the nords in destroying Alduin. If Alduin is a factor at all in this, and the fact that Alduin technically is a god of destruction, then the Dwemer might not have disappeared unexpectedly, but rather been preparing to flee since Alduin might want to destroy them for aiding in his disappearance.
The Dwemer didn’t disappear until long after alduin was cast to the future.
The Dwemer all disappeared when Kagrenak used his tools on the heart of Lorkhan during the battle of red mountain in year 700 of the 1st era. It’s much more likely that this opened them up to Chim and since the Dwemer are a race of scientists and engineers they probably wouldn’t have been able to comprehend that they don’t actually exist and are a part of a dream from the godhead and they zero summed and seized to exist as a result.
@@joshuapittman4663 Even then, this could have been in an attempt to escape from Alduin. Based on how intelligent they seemed to have been, they most likely knew about the effects of the scroll and most likely knew Alduin would seek vengeance against all who had helped in his exile to the future. They probably planned to escape first when he showed up, but during the experiments they vanished from Nirn.
@@luckyloke5971 highly unlikely that they cared at all about alduin since alduin only had control over Skyrim and the Dwemer that had used the heart of Lorkhan were in Morrowind. Also the reason that they had used the heart at that specific time was because the Chimer were closing in on the area where the Numidium was kept. It’s also likely that the Dwemer were doing other experiments when it comes to dragons if they were even worried at all because in black reach there’s a tonal bell you can hit that summons a dragon for you to fight. Also the elder scrolls contain different knowledge depending on who reads them so the Dwemer owning the dragon scroll is most likely unrelated to alduin.
@@joshuapittman4663 I think they all would care because, ya know, Alduin was a litteral GOD OF DESTRUCTION and was going to devour the world.
@@luckyloke5971 alduin wasn’t gonna devour the world, his job is to end the world which the Dragonborn puts him back on that path since you don’t receive any dragon souls from alduin.
Alduin was going to re-enslave Skyrim…
Parthanax even states that he had gone rouge and instead of doing what he was created for he decided to become a king of sorts over Skyrim. The Dwemer being underground were likely unaffected by Alduin.
The goal of the Dragonborn and Akatosh are to set the end of nirn in motion so that the next cycle can begin.
"Being able to see is critical to fighting."
The Falmer with a bow: "Say that to the arrow in ur chest." *Painstakingly translated from the ancient falmer tongue*
HAH, missed the knee
@@ozzylepunknown551 not mine sadly
Not as critical as being protected by armor thou, otherwise open helmets would've been a lot more popular (not that they weren't)
You should have gone for the knee.
*-Ancient Nordic carving*
*wrarghf* *grunt* *grunt* *grunt*
i know what happened to the Dwemer. They actually did create a god from the Heart of Lorkan. Unfortunately, he was a spiteful, greedy God and immediately locked them away in a plane known as "The Creation Club" to be returned at a later date when sufficient sacrifice ($) is paid.
Incredibly underrated
He he credit card go swipe
Hermaeus mora used them to create the heart of lorkhan and then poofed them out of existence. Hermaeus mora deals in arcane knowledge, likes using mortals for unknown purposes and has a reputation for poofing people who know too much out of existence
😂😂
DAMNIT TODD!
I always found Arniel's story to be interesting as he knows what happened to the Dwemer but continues to try and recreate something which erased an entire population.
And kept a non-existent lab notebook, awful scientist.
@@greggo644 He carried it with him everywhere. The notebook went along with him. I remember, he used to always say "If I always keep it on my person, then it can never be lost and forgotten again."
oh well.
In regards to the snow elves, the Dwemer paragraph refers to “sent our machines against your enemies, to thereby take you under”. There is a clear separation between the Dwarves and the Snow Elves, as they talk about ‘our machines’ and ‘your enemies’. This implies that the Dwarves and the Snow Elves weren’t working together from the Dwarves perspective. Also, the phrase ‘take you under’ implies that the Dwarves were planning on possessing the Snow Elves from the beginning, as they take them, not bring, welcome or invite them. I think that the Dwarves realised that they could use the Snow Elves for their own means, be it experiments or as workers, and saw the humans purge against the Snow elves as an opportunity to pretend to come to the Snow Elves rescue and then exploit them later. The Dwarves were only fighting the humans so that they could have the Snow Elves, not because they felt bad for the Snow Elves, or that they were related species especially given that the Dwarves don’t have or believe in emotions.
They still might have had emotions, but only limited to their own kind. A lioness will be very gentle to her cubs but when it concerns her prey she won't hesitated to kill a "child" animal.
All that is explained in the dlc
The dwarves had emotions, they were just hyper racists, potentially more so than the altmer of today
@@mistercomment1622Every new piece of information that comes out about the Dwemer makes me hope they suffered. These bastards were evil.
The Dwemer didn't disappear. They just relocated to the Cloud District. Pretty much everyone can't get in.
So THAT'S what it is
NAZEEM!
@@dickrichard5579 WHAT DOES HE KNOW
@@Madcapredcap nothing
Well that smart.
The Dwemer got teleported into our time and dimension and made a company called Bethesda which is publishing games that tell stories about their world
that would be a legendary plot twist :d
I like this idea 💡
I really want to believe that XD
@Scythian Lancer Fr Fr lol
It just works
I think one thing that's significant is that when you summon a dwarven machine it doesn't appear in a purple sphere like when you summon daedra. This makes me think they're not in Oblivion but maybe Aetherius, or a different time, or maybe even just somewhere else in Mundus.
Another planet?
@@Jiub_SN That's a possibility.
Excellent observation
I HAVE A THEORY!!! The Dwemer blinded the Snow Elves so that they would become more attuned/sensitive to sound. This heightened sense of hearing, which Flamer DO have, would help them hear sounds that the Dwemer cannot distinguish. So, many Falmer could have ended up as assistants in the tonal processes of the Dwemer.
I think the blindness is more due to living underground. If you never see light, your eyes probably would stop working.
@@IluvinortheIneffable The theory isn't about how they became blind, but for what purpose. And why then aren't the Dwemer also blind?
@@AGHathaway because they had light if they were able to make machines and air ships and bend reality through sound wouldnt it make sense for them to have also discovered light?
@@bread_cat_gaming1 I think it's been confirmed that the Falmer were blinded before the Dwemer disappeared.
Makes sense to me
Dragons: *speaks in an ancient and powerful language that creates fire, frost, force, etc*.
Dwarves: *plays a jaunty keyboard solo and alters the very fabric of the universe*.
So the Dwemer were teaming up with the Dragons to literally rock reality to it's core with music. What's your point?
That makes sense to me 😂
Bards, Bards everywhere
dragon shouts are also tonal manipulation. you can literally slow down time itself with a dragon shout.
Difference between a sorcerer and a bard, lol
I am endlessly amused by the concept of Dwemer being teleported into the future, then trying to impress the future tamrellians with their steampunk robots.
And the dwemer from the future came back to the merethic which explain the futuristic technology of the dwemer civilization
I have my own tinfoil concept that they (and the snow elves) could be teleported back to Skyrim to when they first colonized the area but don't remember shit because mass conservation and other bullshit made them forget where they actually came from or what they were doing and are thus stuck in this loop of living there and teleporting back there without the beginning or end
@@Sk0lzky That's actually a pretty good theory. What a nightmare scenario.
@@pillgrimm not really a nightmare scenario as its happening over a significant amount of lifespans
@@Sk0lzky nice theory, but have "little" hole in it. Dwemers lived not only in f*cking Skyrim.
I personally am a fan of that theory presented by the "we don't exist anymore" comic. Namely, the Dwemer got what they wanted, apotheosis, but they all were made to fit in the same godly space- their souls all fused together, and were placed into a single body- the Numidium.
So.. Evangelion?
I'm pretty sure that was written my michael kirkbride, and with 99% of the stuff he writes is not canon at all
@@twiddlerat9920 Who cares? It's a theory I like, even if it's not canon.
@@twiddlerat992099%? You do realize that 99% of the current lore was written by him or extremely simplified versions of his work? Kirkbride haters don't realize he basically created all of the Bethesda lore they drink up
@@twiddlerat9920and by the way, he's the one who made the mystery of the Dwemer, so if he says it's true then it's the most likely truth Bethesda will stick with given they're extremely unoriginal and the lore they create is either kirkbride light or LoTR or some other fantasy series lmao
I think the dwemer were sent forward in time, similar to how Alduin was sent forward by using the Elder Scroll. I think the dwarves were creating or attempting to re-create the scrolls and that is what causes them to vanish.
I like that
I thought the same thing
Wait a moment, so Hamerfell is literally where the hammer fell?
Crazy, right?
no it all makes sense
It's an honest name! People did that back then, like hey, there was a hill, we fuckin broke it, welcome to Broken Hill.
@@zigzaghyena lol Hamburger Hill in Vietnam
Llanfairpwll-gwyngyllgogerychwyrndrob-wllllantysiliogogogoch.
the name is pretty descriptive - it basically tells you the town's exact location, standing for Saint Mary's Church in the hollow of the white hazel near a rapid whirlpool and the Church of St. Tysilio of the red cave.
Everyone in Tamriel: “the dwemer are extinct”
Yagrum Bagarn: “bruh”
The reason why he survived was he was in another dimension.
He's also now dead, the plague killed him so yes, they're extinct by the time of Obilvion/Skyrim
@@ornado4773 in Morrowind he was the last of his kind. Really tragic that the plague got him.
Ornado
He’s not dead. He’s still alive according to all the lore available.
elderscrolls.fandom.com/f/p/3100000000000014585
Ornado
elderscrolls.fandom.com/wiki/Yagrum_Bagarn?mobile-app=false
en.m.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Yagrum_Bagarn
while the rest of Tamriel was learning how to make steel, the dwemer were in the middle of the industrial revolution.
Ya know, I’ve always liked to think that the Dwemer were all trapped inside their own automatons. And their souls are the tonal magic that run the machine. No evidence for it but it would just be cool :/
important to note: Most of the automatons can have soul gems looted from them
Well, knowing that dwemers used falmers for their experiment’s, high chance that soul gems actually contains falmers souls for fueling robots
they are ghosts wondering around the dwemer ruins in morrowind
That's basically how the clockwork castle mod makes it out to be
It's a very feasible theory given the nature of how the Numidium was powered. Unfortunately we just have a mountain of questions with a few hints burried within.
Part of me hopes we never find out what really happened. But part of me hopes we do, though, because it's been such a lurking mystery throughout the decades.
Dragons come back in Skyrim: I sleep
The Dwemer are still alive: *REAL SHIT!?!?*
i think the plane of oblivion transporter makes the most sense. especially since deadra give out dwemer tech to the player.
but i don't think the dwemer made it as gods per-say, although they may live forever within the plane of oblivion that they occupy. but the plane of oblivion they are in, their artifacts are freely taken by the deadra and reused and repurposed by those who serve the deadric princes in some way within tamreal.
although i have an theory of my own, and it's based off of how a part of your soul is traped in the soul carne, and the method used by serana to get you into the realm. basically she kind of soul trapped you partially which made it so the player could enter the plane of oblivion without you being dead and resistance into the portal, this was a method she learned from her mother who must have learned it from somewhere else, perhaps from another deadric prince. hermaous mora comes to mind because he's the deadric prince of knowledge and fate.
which also might explain the advanced portal and how that works.
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Not even funny imo aswell
@@MLG4TheWin You must be fun. Bet the crowd roars with laughter with your opinions.
@@MLG4TheWin Its not as bad as the "Nobody:" template.
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Dwemer teleports into your house and takes all of your food, then tells you “no one is going to believe you” and then he teleports back!
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Nazeem go back to the cloud district Nazeem!!!
@@ifyoulikethiscommentyoumus7270 Nazeem never even goes to the cloud district
I shall add this comment to my library
reverse santa
One thing to note about summoning Arniel's Shade; using the spell makes a high pitched ping or chime sound that sounds different than other conjuring spells. Food for thought with regard to Tonal magic
I always liked to think that the Dwemer were inter-dimensional, utilising the elder scrolls to access knowledge that allowed them to become so technologically advanced.
It could also be that due to constant meddling with the scrolls that they were accidentally all transported to another dimension/time period with no way to return.
It was a fun theory for me. You can imagine my delight when years later I heard countless stories of people around the world reporting to have encountered mechanical elf/dwarven entities while using ‘DMT’. Brought a whole new level of depth to my play throughs lmao
Fun fact, the machine elves are said to teach humans how to "sing objects into existence" Tonal magic??
Personally I think that they actually succeeded in creating a God that would only serve their interests but it kind of backfired on them and against their will they were Thanos-snapped to another plain of existence where they wouldn't be bothered by, nor interfere with the other races.
With a title like that, I just gotta come over and watch.
Really though haha
Exactly
U right
Indeed
What’s his face in morrowind survived cause he was in oblivion and I refuse to believe he was literally the *only one if his entire race* who happened to not be in mundus when they got deleted
The Dwemer are honestly one of the most fascinating parts of Elder Scrolls
yeah but the fact their puzzles/death traps are fascinatingly annoying.
Halt, i know you
@The Dovahkiin The Dwemer are also the hardest to solve(The Lore)
@@icemanchambers1207 Ashes.
Is it just me, or does the dwemer somewhat represent ancient Greece?
I dream of an ES game where the Dwemer begin an invasion of Tamriel. Where they bring back their dormant cities to full power and slowly sneak back home with a goal of total control. I'd imagine the Thalmer would try to make an alliance with them being elves but the Dwemer would ultimately betray them with little empathy. The Dominion would collapse and it'd be like Oblivion in a way I guess, just mass chaos as the dwarves grew stronger.
I do agree mysteries are great to keep going. If you reveal it all then there's little wonder left. I also think that you can reveal secrets but create more secrets by doing so. Dwemer living in a future where they're considered backwater elves would be kharmic justice though, a funny end to their superiority complex. Maybe the Psijics would learn of their fate some day or an elder scroll burns the truth into someone's eyes.
That would be pretty great!
Playing a future elder scrolls game with functioning inhabited Dwemer cities would be the coolest thing ever
That won't happen considering humans have dragon born
@@mohammadshahraki3373 Dwemers can literally bend reality, so they would def be a challenge
Todd Howard's 2022+ Bethesda would never put that much effort into a game plot
There was only one left in morrowind, he had no idea what happened lol
He was late for the rocket/time travel machine/doomsday event :p
Bro didn't set his alarm to wake up for work 💀
Nazeem is an undercover agent for the Dwemer, the “Cloud District” is code for where the Dwemer are hiding
Anyone else murder Nazeem?
They are the cloud district
HaxuppDee-85 I became a werewolf just to rip him apart
So that’s why no one goes there often...
Do you get to the cloud district very often? Oh, what am I saying of course you don't, but I'll have you know theres no pusssssssssiiiiieee
Arniel: "I'm trying to recreate the Dwemer disappearance"
Arniel: *disappears*
Well I guess he did it, but I'm not sure what that accomplished.
Arniel: "I'm trying to recreate the Dwemer disappearance."
You: "Hold up..."
What's interesting is after he disappears, he leaves Keening behind, but if you attack the warped soul gem with Keening, nothing happens
Arniel knows how the dwemer disappeared if he lives. I'd love it if it were something really underwhelming. Oh they were just a short trek away all along? Huh.
i disappeared.. but.. at what cost..
Arniel: "I'm trying to recreate the Dwemer disappea-
In my ten plus years of delving into the dark places of Tamriel I have yet to see any Dwemer skeletons.
Exactly none in every game
Haven’t seen anyone mention this, but to further support your “Spectre” theory, in Morrowind you can go into the Dwemer ruins and actually encounter Dwemer Spectres, the ghosts of the dead Dwemer. They even drop ectoplasm when you kill them like the ghosts in Skyrim. It would be interesting to know more about ghosts/spectres and all that, because I think whatever plane these spectres pertain to that’s where the Dwemer are likely to be. Or maybe they met Dr Strange and he taught them how to get to the Astral Plane or something I don’t know. At this point, who knows.
The dwemer modded their game to death, making their lives CTD repeatedly
They uninstalled skyrim
And yet they never had sloots.
@@axol7417 And made their own game that is more to their liking.
must be sucks trapped in goId experience requiem
The dwemer have been busy trying to solve the load order and finding out why Immersive Wenches wont load if the Nazeem becomes jarl mod is active
You missed a theory I've heard for why the Dwarves blinded the falmer. They might be been trying to get them to replace their sense of sight with being able to sense by hearing tonal architecture. Falmer still have their large ears, which are so potent they can be used as an alchemical ingredient, and work as well as eyes. That could've been the dwarven experiment they were trying to perform
Or perhaps they didn't want them to be able to understand their technology
Bruh
I like this idea
That's cool theory in the concept of TES. The world is made of sound so hearing it would be more true way of experiencing it.
The snow elves/Falmer were blinded by centuries of abuse at the hands of the dwemer, they tore out their eyes and tortured their senses. The Dwemer wanted a slave race to test their experiments on, but thats what Behtesda wanted to make you think. But I think they may have tried experiments on the Falmer, and then tried them on themselves. And the etherium also makes tones if you read the flavor text on atheric items. Also the daedra and the dwarves share some of the same ideals and looks as the daedric princes. So, it is possible that the dwemer became part of the daedra.
@Shadow King these fictional snow people LITERALLY blah blah blah bruh chill nerd 😂
New theory: They took in the Falmer to be the "Guard Dogs" of their Cities while they're away. Blindness made them attack first, ask questions later. The Dwemer have been gone too long and devolved the Falmer.
How does blindness make you ask questions later? Falmer don't talk, at all. And if you're blind, you have to ask questions first when you hear footsteps because you can't quite tell what a stranger is up to.
@@AdamWhistle1 I can't tell if you're joking, if English isn't your first language or you've just never heard the saying before, but "attack first, ask questions later" just means attacking without asking questions or seeking any additional information. It doesn't literally mean that later, after attacking, they will ask questions.
@EvilDude I can’t tell if you’re joking or if English isn’t your first language. He wasn’t confused by the phrase, he was confused by the implication that being blind turns you into a bloodthirsty monster that attacks everything in its vicinity. I don’t know if you’ve met many blind people, but they don't hear your footsteps, and run to attack you.
@Nebulaoblivion I can't tell if you're joking or if English isn't your first language, but OP literally said "what if they took the falmer as "Guard Dogs"" but since they're blind they'll kill anything on sight ( attack 1st ask ?s later) he's talking about the Video Game blind falmer not your fucking blind cousin my guy 😂😂
@@Nebulaoblivionthey do hear footateps, even people who see hear footsteps unless you walk very softly
Becoming the skin of a god would be the ultimate irony for the Dwemer, and horrifying
I mean folks were making literally "Brass God", so that easily might be an allegory or something like that. In the world were gods are real and influence the mortal realm the way of scientific folks is not atheism, but exploiting
"It may seem a bit tedious"
Boy, I didn't click on a 30 minute Elder Scrolls theory video without expecting a good deal of tedium.
I didn’t know tedious had other variations, but am pleasantly surprised to hear tedium is one.
Imagine a whole main quest storyline on the dwemer, in depth .
I was thinking perhaps they do it in the next elder scrolls!
Imagine a big plot point being the Dwemer returning like Alduin.
they have a mod where they do have a questline like that apparently they created domains that whenever someone sins or does bad. the dwemer come alive and kill everyone and they only activate like that... and explains why the residents are dead and hardly anyone knows why they were created.
they use those centurian cores as thier soul type thing.. it powers there bodies.
I guess magic and artificial intelligence of some sort 🤷
They could fill an entire game with just exploring all this cool lore stuff.
@@daedricdragon5976 You mean Elder Scrolls: Skyrim Dwemer’s Fate Edition that will come out in 2023 when you expect them to mention about Elder Scrolls 6 and they will give you that instead?
I've watched this video probably 10x already while at work and expect to re listen another 10x within the year
I think the dwarves went back in time and became the original daedra.
Maybe they went back in time, became the original dwemer, and that's why they were so technologically advanced. Maybe their fate is an endless circle.
Elder scrolls Vl: The Dwemer have come back, and they aren’t too pleased that everyone has taken to calling them “dwarves”.
Bethesda missed a great opportunity..."Elder Scrolls II, Dwarven Buggaloo."
Or that everyone's been stealing their shit since they left.
@@jamestgilkey75 I wouldn't call it stealing, I'd call it reverse engineering
I refer to them as dwemer because it sounds cool lol
Theyre called dwarves because they liked to hang out with giants and to a giant, a Dwemer is a dwarf, even though the dwemer are the same height as humans (give or take)
The dwe-"mer" are elves. Deep elves. Besides their armor is human sized
The dwemer were never gone. Just invisible, and very very quiet
Mia'q is that you?
You can fight Dwemer ghosts in tes 3 so that’s kinda true
AKA: There all dead.
They must have a lot of vampire powder whit them
Given the nature of the dwarves lore, that's probably not far off, and a lot more horrifying than you'd think.
No matter what things i watch on RUclips I always end up having this on my suggested list lol, Well I certainly don't mind rewatching it every so often!
About the wisp mothers: oblivion has wisps everywhere, often near ayleid ruins drawn to wells and places of power.
I figured that the blindness inflicted by the Dwemer was just a side effect of their true motive: the souls of the Falmer. Dwemer constructs often drop soul gems, and obtaining black soul gems often requires dangerous bargains with the Ideal Masters. I figured the Dwemer wanted to use the Falmer as a fuel source. Alternatively, they wanted to study the gradual decay of their souls from black to white so they could use the data to evolve their own souls.
What if the dwarves were studying soul gems to develop an entrance to the realm of the soul cairn, and they're sorta just hiding underground there, harnessing energy from there directly?
I feel as though the Falmer most likely are mostly, if not only, found in Dwarven Ruins because they were used as slaves, as is mentioned in the game a few times. They were probably used to help carve out tunnels and rooms for their various purposes. Along with that, it's possible they were used as test subjects for the Dwarven Automata.
Very cool and fitting theories. This is why I love the mystery of not only the Dwarves in TES but of all of the other open-ended stuff too. TES's fanbase is pretty admirable when it comes to theories and how they dissect the lore. Good stuff :)
Great theory!
I think they blinded snow elves to prove a point that gods can not save them and their "blind" devotion is not going to help them. A middle finger to god they worshiped and also so they can not learn about their secrets, machines, dwemer metal etc...
Do not forget they did not care about others, they did not base their work on third party entity. And we found mine with soul gems in game...
In game there is a book called Azura and the box, read it and you will know more.
Imagine blinding a race to make them more sensitive to sound so they may comprehend tonal manipulation and the "soft music" of the Dwemer that only they could understand.
some how those fuckers still spot me even tho im level 100 sneak
Delete Tomoko userpic, you bаstаrd
@@Chad-pj9pj were they touching you or were you using a bow
Bal haze bro I’d some how be behind them no bow, and no where near them, those mf still see me tho
@@Chad-pj9pj They van heat and smalle extremely well. But yeah as a sneak master illusionist it's quite annoying that they can spot me with 100 sneak and illusion...
Hey, Long time watcher, Love your videos. Mostly caught your fallout ones but now getting into the elder scrolls stuff :D
I think that Arniel's experiment disproves the Oblivion theory, but not completely. Battlespire was a thing, and it was built by far less advanced Imperials. Yagrum is likely not the only one who was in the realm at the time, so it's a pretty likely possibility that a splinter clan of the Dwarves lives in Oblivion, escaping the fate of their Mundus tied bretheren. Artifacts prove it, and even in Morrowind, lower level Dremora were likely to be equipped with Dwarven weaponry.
Likely the original intent, though Todd probably changed it, or he didn't and just made shit insanely inconsistent
The time theory is interesting because that's exactly what happened to Alduin, the ancient warriors couldn't kill off Alduin so they just moved him to another point in history
Weakass warriors I beat him first time easy
Alduin is truly a pathetic boss
@@kingt0295 I think only a dragonborn can kill him
so they could have atleast timetraveled to the future and given the dB a glock or something.
@@Sneakyrat_Gaming LMAO
“The conjure spells pluck things from oblivion”
So any time I summon my dwarven sphere to follow me around there’s someone in oblivion freaking out that another sphere disappeared? Must be a pretty high bounty on the sphere thief in oblivion, pretty high indeed
Since i don't recall any vanilla spell that summon dwemer spheres I will assume you are talking about the Artherial Staff.
Did you noticed you can only summon animaculum if you have some dwemer components in your inventory? Not only they are a requirement, they disappear for the duration of the summon and return when it is dismissed.
To me that look like the super duper special staff made from the godly substance that caused a secret war doesn't conjure creatures from Oblivion, it construct fully functional machines from their broken components.
@@DanielChico09 you either never played morrowind,never saw the spell used or sold, or just don't remember.
@@DanielChico09 Summon Dwemer Centurion is a spell from Morrowind, not Skyrim.
You can get it in the Telvanni storyline.
The purple summon portals are oblivion summons, the blue ones I think are atherius
I wonder if the mechanic behind dwarven sphere has to repair the dwarven sphere every time the player has it destroyed. Even more so, does he express the same level of paranoia as the guard in the pot room? I doubt it, but one must wonder.
So many possibilities lol, so fun to ponder! Thanks for the video! It's kind of a neat implication about the tonal manipulation; like what if Arniel was actually transported to where the Dwreamor were as well? What if , like the so called "last survivor" was right about the infinite life thing, "with unforseen consequences". Maybe in the midst of the fighting whomever was working on it hit the precise tone to transport all of them? What if when Arniel struck the crystal it created the tone to transport? I'm not like fully aware of all the intricacies but that's where my mind went towards the end of the video. Especially after it was mentioned that no Magika is used to summon his Shade 🤔🤔
Removing falmer's vision heightened their other senses like hearing going back to tonal manipulation.
Dwarves : "we can never dig too deep!"
Also dwarves: *digs too deep*
CIRCUS IS IN TOWN BOYS!!!
Dwarf Fortress meme too early ?
Oh I get it dwarfs from Skyrim accidentally fell into the world where the dwarfs from lord of rings maybe or maybe their copies did.
He obviously means they slay that pussy... Gosh how could you have forgotten your training?
The Dwemer are the deep elves, in more ways than one😘
@@_.l4n3 those fuckin clowns!
@@ogluqqychess4452 yes officer this comment right here
I thought M'aiq was the last Dwemer. At least, that's what he told me once.
Maiq knows much, and tells some. Maiq knows many things others do not.
The only thing that is certain about M’aiq is that’s he is definitely not really a simple Kahjit. He’s been in every elder scrolls game and is at least several hundred years old if not more
@@Knightfang1 Maiq also has a line that suggest he comes from a long line of Maiq's so either could be true
@@lurkenvoncurken518 This is assuming we believe him. Personally, I'm starting to think that he's really an Argonian with a really bad toupee.
@@goldenknight578 I think Maiq might be either an avatar of Sanguine or Hermaus Mora or some other being from oblivion since he seems to be everywhere and know everything.
“Lore-lore-lore-theory-lore-lore-theory-“ There’s a half hour gone, just to hear “It’s unclear and nobody knows.”
Yeah, and saying something along the lines of "they are definitely alive" within the first few minutes was more than a little scumy. It's a hook to get you watching till the very end just to find out, "nobody knows"
And not *just* "nobody knows", you get to read/hear a quote from the creative director where he outright says he likes having completely unsolvable mysteries in games just for the sake of it.
Assuming that was a truthful statement and not just an excuse for the ungodly amount of cut content and dead end plotlines in Skyrim and Bethesda games as a whole (big assumption there), any speculation is tainted with the knowledge that there possibly isn't an answer at all. or at least one that Bethesda will just never actually use or show, even if it does exist. because Todd likes it. And that's really lame.
Absolute cinema
Hellouh, todayuh were goin to be talking about the dwarvesuh.
It’s because he’s trying to make his voice deeper than it actually is.
Imagine what the enemies thought when they witnessed a whole army vanished in front of them
"GOOD JOB GUYS! Drinks on me!"
They have mastered the art of standing so still as to vanish to the naked eye.
Drax the Dwemer
Their movements....so slow
Their sneak have all reached 100
Two words. Weaping Angels.
@@johnandreas5925 Don't they just move when you're not looking? That isn't the same as staying still to become invisible
You mentioned that summoning Arniel Gane doesn't use magicka. If you get the Aetherial staff it also doesn't conjure the spheres/spiders in the same way that other things are summoned. The staff uses soul gems however it does not appear that you are summoning them from oblivion. The spell is different than any other conjuration spell in the way that it looks.
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Elder scrolls VI: Krag “Dwarves are back and they’re pissed”
The Dwemerborn must seek the Elder Scrolls to learn the rust shout or all is lost against these mechanized foes
i like this comment
The dwemorborne took a ballistic bolt to the knee
this was funny
AKM says нет
Dwemer: “Hey kid, ever heard about ascending?”
Falmer: “No!”
Dwemer: “Would you like to?”
Fabio a TES fan?? No way??
Falmer: The desire to not know more intensifies.
Falmer:''what's the catch ?''
Love how right as he started to quote the tablet I got a midroll ad.
Interesting. Thanks for sharing!
You should note that when someone becomes blind, their other senses become sharpened, especially their hearing. So maybe, the dwarves wanted the falmer to serve as precise hearers, so that they could fine-tune their tonal manipulation.
Nate needs to see this
Oooooooh. Think of Bats and their ability to see things through Echo location. Perhaps this allowed them to see other dimensions or the properties of their tonal manipulation/manifestations.
I hate this common misconception (I suppose it could be true in TES, but it's certainly not in our world).
Your senses don't get stronger when you lose one; it only seems that way when one of your more prominent senses is taken away and you're forced to rely on the others.
It's like if I lose my hearing, my eyes aren't going to suddenly improve, but I would become more visually observant, as I would need to compensate for my lack of hearing (through lip reading and minding my surroundings more, et c.) to continue to live in a similar way as I do now.
It's the same thing for losing your sight; your hearing doesn't instantly improve, your hearing improves because now you have no choice but to rely on it for the vast majority of your sensory information (or you just start to rely on another person, or guide dog, instead).
All of that being said, I still like your idea and it does still make sense (but the reason for their increased sensitivity to sound would come from necessity, not some biological buff in response to losing their sight, unless it's Dwemer magic, hah) to have blind people work on audio-based technologies; if this was true, I'd be inclined to agree with you, or suggest that the Dwemer may have blinded them to prevent the Snow Elves from easily using the powerful tonal technology of the Dwemer against them. Or maybe, because tonal architecture is based on sound, the Snow Elves would be more susceptible to it when blind? To be controlled or whatnot.
@@Lilferiby it's not about the your sense organs becoming stronger
It's about neural pathways being rebuilt allowing for faster and more accurate cognitive processing of stimuli from the healthy sense organs
@@ProfPuffOfficial Yeah, neural pathing that results from having to rely on a particular sense more:
"Your senses don't get stronger when you lose one; it only seems that way when one of your more prominent senses is taken away and you're forced to rely on the others."
Like I already said.
The last time I was this early, the dragons still ruled Skyrim
I really like the time travel theory because it's something that is proven to be possible. And not only is it possible, the dwemer had the equipment to do it. The nords used the Dragon Scroll to launch Alduin forward in time by reading it. In Skyrim, it just so happens we find that very same Elder Scroll in a giant machine made for ...reading Elder Scrolls. Is it so crazy to assume the dwemer found some way to manipulate the scroll into affecting a larger group? They achieved a great deal with tonal manipulation, and perhaps that heart of a god may have served some purpose as well. I have a feeling its involved.
In morrowind (where Dwemer lore was written) the ruins are populated by ghosts and yagrum wasn't effected while in the outer realms, the elder scrolls would've effected him given they're the most powerful artifact in mundus
When I started playing skyrim it was my first exposure to TES lore, so exploring I found the dwemer ruins so fascinating.
Hey nate! I know it’s a bit late, but as you mentioned at the end of the video about the dwarves and time travel, it might be interesting to note that the elder scroll used to send alduin into the future was found deep within a dwarven ruin 🤔
@@gopolangmakgothi6982 honestly i thought of this a while ago but i still feel pretty confident, especially with the context that the spheres are meant to show things, not weirdly contain them; we simply have no idea what the container holding the elder scroll was meant to do
@@nohobo23 maybe it was so they could read it without going blind. Maybe that’s what happened to the falmer.
@@II-ei8xd falmer went blind bc of fungus the dwemer made the snow elf’s eat causing them to devolve and go blind so I’m afraid that’s not an option
Maybe it was meant to broadcast the power of the scroll to every dwemer so that they could all disappear?
@@sethv4227 just was traveling through blackreach because anniversary edition, and i realize that the sphere under the scroll is the same model/design for the device used to broadcast items of magic power from the mage college questline. Current running theory is that the device is most likely designed with a similar intention (ie potentially looking forward in time, finding areas of shattered time like the throat of the world, or potentially finding other elder scrolls)
Todd: okay, so i have an idea, a fantasy world but every race is an elf.
Somebody: orcs?
Todd: elves.
Somebody: dwarves?
Todd: *elves.*
I think in lotr the orcs were elves too!
@@CarpetEraser huh, I've never watched lord of da rings so i didn't know.
@@themonsterunderyourbed.7620 Mainly in the books.Also... seriously?
(dont watch hobit though it is an abomination)
@@jdoc3118 yeah, seriously.
@@CarpetEraser yes, orcs are the descendants of young elves (young as in the race was just created) that were captured and tortured by Melkor/Morgoth untill they were filled with a hate that transcends generations and transformed their minds and bodies
This was a good watch.
Informative.
Could the next ES game have more answers?
i think they blinded them so the snow elfes would have a more fine and powerful hearing, allowing them give better diagnostic of the.... sounds mater manipulation spell things?, it would give them a reason to help the snow elfe , make them blind, and then force them to work, because it avoid the Dwemer using the very people to could USE said spell and let them sacrifice them self and become blind.
It does seem like they worship sounds or tones instead of gods
@@egostiic4183 To my knowledge they didn’t really worship gods, they definitely had to of known they existed but really instead focused on their own abilities
I can imagine the Dwemer being shot into the future to find themselves in like the Elder Scrolls version of modern day San Francisco or something.
That's quite the rude awaking. To find out that your technology is useless, and far outdated. I wouldn't be surpised if they become enslaved them self's.
Argonian walking forward down a street just texting listening to music and bumps into this sword weilding group and just freaks out running off. the group looks around wondering where in Oblivion they are. Strange metal carages fly past them leaving a strong smell in their path and the chief gets some strangers, a nord looking woman but dressed in thin looking clothing, not bulky and heavy armor, or as lose and worn as something they were more accustomed to, grabbing her attention, but the women can't understand them and just bids them farewell, a little confused at such a strange language. Some passer by honks at the group as they stepped into a street a little while looking at the towers of homes, taking in the new look.
@@cleanwater3180 just yes
thats actually a possibility
there are stories about the eye of magnus being something from the future so i know it can also be sent forward because of the shit with alduin but they just manage to do it without a scroll... hmm
Or into the past causing fallout
“Airship technology hasn’t been replicated since!”
Bucket with a handle: “And I took that personally.”
*Oblivion paintbrushes have entered the chat*
Just need a giant and a club, you'll be sent to the stratosphere in seconds.
I remember an airship trip playing the bloodmoon expansion for Morrowind.
What about the Giant's Space Program?
"Airship technology hasn't been replicated since."
Louis Beauchamp: "Am I a joke to you?"
Very very interesting video. I had no idea falmer came from snow elves! Fascinating
Have you eve thought of making a Skyrim Letsplay? I'd really be interested in watching you play the game with the modset you have. I've always been amazed to how good your game looks and I'd love to see you make a playthrough!
I would love the next Elder Scrolls game to be about the return of the dwemer, with them being either the antagonists who the main character has to help defeat or them arriving in the nick of time to help finally destroy the Aldmeri Dominion.
The high elves get owned by the low elves
Would love an Aldmeri antagonist angle, where they just have like a new-Numidium :P
Either this or a time when the snow elves were still thriving
I don't think they would care unless the aldmeri dominion was attacking them directly
@@rileymunkholm6679 Depends if they’re trying to return to Aetherius or not? If the Dominion were in their end game, then you could expect the Dwemer to come out of nowhere to stop that. They didn’t share the Thalmor beliefs of returning to the Aedra
Theory: they made an elder scroll using tonal manipulation, accidentally sending their entire race to the future
I had a similar thought. Alduin was banished to another time using the Elder Scroll you find in the main story of Skyrim, and the Dwemer had a Lexicon that was capable of reading Elder Scrolls. The Elder Scrolls, from what I understand, are pieces of reality, so I don’t think the Dwemer could have just “made” one. Maybe they work using tonal magic. Maybe the Lexicon was a tonal machine made to read one, which the Dwemer learned from to send themselves to another time.
I was thinking that the Dwarven were sent back in time, because of how they were already there when the other elves first left the Isles. And im thinking Shades are a previous image of the person it belongs to. Like how your shadow is an afterimage of yourself.
TLDR: Dwarves went back in time, and shades are someones/somethings copy from a previous time.
@@edvardgrieg6408 This is my new headcanon for the Dwemer
@Back from the Deadpool that and it was a kids show so they couldn't show characters getting chopped in half and guts flying out.
I love imagining Dwemer with rifles driving tone-powered tanks
Hey Nate, quick question. What graphics mod are you using to your skyrim? ty in advance!
you deserve a smooch for dis ngl
Dwemer: hey kid wanna ascend?
Snow elf: don’t really got a choice do I?
No, not really.
Who's assend?
@@libbypowell4278 ?
@@libbypowell4278 joe momma
@@mmmdazzagoodmemeayzzz7264 joe mamma is yo mamma? 😉
27:57: "[When] Arniel attempts the experiment, it goes horribly wrong."
Depending on your point of view, it may well have gone horribly *right!*
Or wonderfully wrong.
He doesn't sound like he's having much fun when you summon him tho
hes like moaning in pain i dont think it went right at all loll
Would be a pretty epic game if they returned and tried to take over. Technology vs magic
Okaya thisa wasa AA gooda watcha nicea videoa
"I know the gods exist, I just don't stake my faith in them. Someone who isn't too good at gambling shouldn't really bet their _soul_ on anything."
You really shouldn’t bet your soul anyways
Kinda hard without one tho
@@commanderstorm8874 can I bet their soul?
@@dementededge3266 the would also be unwise as they would become some kind of daemon and come back to kill you
unless you have highly extremely extremely extremely extremely truly highly distilled liquid luck from Harry Potter that you just drank then you could bet but make sure you bet on a sure win bet.
Last time i was this early the Dwemer were still aro-
*WAIT WHAT*
Lol
This actually made me laugh out loud. Good on you, sir.
@@Chikinbokbok yay!
The only idea we get is from arniel gane. When he uses the dwarven keening dagger against a replica of a gods heart, he's turned into a ghost that we can summon. Every machine has a soul gem inside it. Im presuming the dwarves achieved immortality by putting their own souls into machines. It's how they've gone undetected for so long.
Can you post your modlist anywhere? I would love to know how you made those beautiful shots of the game possible!
12:36
This statement makes me think they used the souls of the snow elves to inhabit the Dwemer machines and control them.
Underrated comment
You might be on to something. Blinding the falmers so when there killed by the dwemers they won't know what hit them, then enslaving their souls in soul gems, giving them new mechanical bodies just to serve their masters for eternity...
"My Life as a Subterranean Soul-Farmer"
agree
Dwemer automatons don’t have black souls in them though.
Dwemer: *trying to gain infinite life*
Gman: Prepare for unforeseen consequences.
Wait-
Is that referencing what I think it is-
@@galaxykitsune no shit praise God praise God
Y'know, the implication that G-Man is a Dwemer is a crossover headcanon I never even considered but that would be fanfic material.
G-man
instinct of thieves pshh you don’t call him “Government-man”
I feel like maybe during that battle, the dwemer used a weapon based on the power of the elder scrolls, which explains another reason why the dwemer were studying them, but something happened that caused the power of the scrolls to backfire on them, causing them to be sent to another time/timeline. Like maybe they figured out how to send multiple enemies back into the past, but they screwed something up or something intervened that stopped them from being successful and thats what caused them to disappear.
Oh shit I been watching your videos for years and never noticed I was not subbed XD. youtube just keeps showing me them.
Yagrum Bagarn: I just got back from a five-year journey to an Outer Realm, can't wait to see my wife and children again, and all my other Dwemer friends...
Kagranak: N O
(Clueless)
@@condor2279 he's from morrowind. The last dwarf :(
@@mewsterx3679 I didnt appreciate how cool it was to meet a real live dwarf in Morrowind, tho honestly his looks were kinda terrifying. He was obese and his body was mechanized to give him electric spider legs.
@@pluckybellhop66 well, his body was wrecked from the corprus disease that also made him cease aging. So, maybe that's why he was so plump.
I found an ancient Dwemer text, thought lost to the ages. After having braved the dangerous underground ruins, automatons, and traps, I absconded with the book. Seeking its hidden knowledge, I brought it to Calcelmo in Markarth. He painstakingly translated it over a period of weeks. It read...
"Never should have come here!"
In Morrowind they say that the Dwemer used the Hammer of Lorken if you ever beat the game saying you could dissappear like the Dwemer if you use it too much.
Not to get into a lengthy debate the Dwemer belived in logic and intelligence.
Lorken I believe was that representation. In Elder Scrolls IV they explain the Dwemer.
Especially in Red Mountain.
Someone found a way to activate all their Hearthstones at once and now they're in the Warcraft universe, but shorter and more alcoholic.
They also used their knowledge to make a game that hooked people like they did to the falmer.
Nah they probably found a connection to the warp so the chaos gods teleported them to the warhammer universe for shits and giggles and now they've got to fight oversized orsimers and crackhead rat khajiits
Lel
bold of you to assume they weren't that alcoholic originally lol
Rofl hic...
Just like my dad, they went to the gas station to get a pack of smokes. They'll be back..
In several thousand years
Dude, he's not coming back. That pack of smokes is all the way in Tennessee and has much bigger tits.
Same ngl
Son?
Same thing happened to me
One theory i like is the Chim theory, where when High Architect Kagrinack struck the Heart of Lorkain with the tools his people accended enough to realize the Godhead dream theory, but they couldn't accept that their reality was a lie, thus couldn't achieve Chim and so they ceased to exist.....
I don't know a whole lot about Elder Scroll lore, so I don't know if my "head cannon" would even make sense in the lore. But my head cannon is that the dwarves found a way to reach Godhood via the Numidium and something either screwed up (or it all went to plan) and the souls of the dwemer was syphoned into the Numidium. It's also possible that the Falmer were used to act as defenders of dwemer ruins in the hopes of keeping their knowledge hidden from outside forces and having them blind and mad would work best for that purpose.
It's also possible that the dwemer trader artifacts to the daedric in return for knowledge or other artifacts. Overall, very neat mystery and one of my favorite in the series.
If anyone reads this and knows about the lore of the games, let me know if this would fit into it.
I actually really like the trading idea I can definitely see them making deals with someone such as Hermaeus Mora
The theory that I subscribe to is that the Dwemer, upon Kagrenac's tampering with the Heart of Lorkhan, all ceased to exist because they failed to achieve chim. Chim, if you don't know, is when an individual in the Elder Scrolls realizes that their universe is a dream and that they are a figment of someone's imagination, in a sense, and still having the arrogance to believe that they're real and their own person. Successfully doing this makes them really powerful and stuff as they are basically lucid dreaming. Tiber Septim and Vivec are characters that have achieved this state of being. It's possible that tampering with the Heart of Lorkhan brought about this realization across their entire race. But the Dwemer, being logical in nature, couldn’t accept this reality, and thus they failed...realizing they don’t truly exist, they zero-summed out of existence.
But that’s just one possibility. Could be something else, but that's just what I believe happened.
dwemer is Vault-Tec, cant convince me otherwise
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Would make sense.
I laughed to hard on this.
Also you know those Bronze Hrad busts it looks very similar to the ones in Fallout coincidence?
@@vernedictb.valentine2057 the busts are cameras ;)