I think a lot of people in English speaking countries (especially if they've never looked into or studies other languages & the way they operate) really take the "Ju" of ju jutsu/judo way too English literally, this is evident when u see ppl posting or saying things like "there's nothing gentle about the gentle way/art at all" . Now I'm not fluent in Japanese nor am I a linguistic scholar or expert but it is to my understanding that the word "Ju" has more of a complex meaning than just the word gentle like someone in USA would use it . JU refers more to a pliable flowing softness like titanium super strong but soft and bendable at same time . Probably off topic but still just my 2 cents lol
Das traduções possíveis, a que mais me agrada para "Ju" é "flexível". A capacidade de se adaptar para ser eficiente. Um judoca contra um oponente mais pesado, por exemplo. Se o oponente faz força para frente, o judoca utiliza uma técnica que seja útil nessa situação (ippon seoi nage, koshi guruma, ogoshi etc.), se ele faz força para trás o judoca utiliza a técnica que lhe favorece (uchi gari, morote gari, osoto gari).
judo is JJ. thanks for clarifying i have been trying to educate people the truth. a few minutes in and I wish i could show everyone that needs to see this video. great vid cant wait to finish it.
Thanks Chadi for the footage, Grabling arts are universal in human civilisation same with striking arts and has nothing to do with how martial arts are today, there are many reasons to why they are like this today but we need, a lot of time to analyze the history of each. Judo"jentle way" became the one way not just an art in Japan like ju jutsu " jentle art" but the main way of philosophical, phisical and spiritual training-education with which the Japanese strive to achieve socioeconomical wellbeing through the wellbeing of each individual. I find it pretty smart to train the body along with the mind cause today I see western civilization forgetting the body which will bring us to a sterile future.
I want to add that before judo in ancient Greek Olympics the motto was "Νους υγιής εν σώματι ήγιες" a healthy mind into(or and) a healthy body. Jigoro kano was extremely fond of this, that's why he had all those trips to ancient Olympia in Greece and he strived in achieving of getting judo into the Olympics, and even though he didn't see that happening while alive, he achieved it. Judo is aswell the connection of Japan with the whole world its not just the jentle way to personal achievement its the way of Japan to befriend the rest of humanity with altruism.
@@nikolaosmandamandiotis8970 wow did not know that! He participated in several olympic openings (Stockholm is one of them) and 1932 they made a judo demonstration.
@@Chadi my judo sensei have some rare photos of JK in ancient Olympia he came here in Greece atleast 2, some say 8 times to see by himself the place where Olympics were born. Too bad that not many know of this story and even less speak about it. Anyway in ancient Greek wrestling you needed 3 ippons to win and there was a kind of competitive wrestling in which you only used fingers wrists and arm locks called "ακροχειρισμος" which reminds aikido in a way but it was more brutal and realistic than what aikido has become today.
i had my first lesson in japaneese jujutsu two weeks ago and it was amazing and at the end of the first lesson we started sparring and i was throuwn through the entire dojo can not wait to learn more
Get a 3' stick and hold it the same way Zatoichi held his sword and do Koshi Guruma. Get your practice knife (wooden or plastic) hold it in your power hand and do shadow kumi kata. Then hold a staff at least 5' long (consider one end as the spear head) and do your shadow kumi kata. Watch a Taiko drummer grip their sticks and the motion when they bring the stick over their heads then back down to the drum, their posture and their stance...what does it remind you of? Once in awhile the Taiko drummer will pivot and strike another drum. Watch a swordsman do his kata, pivot and strike at 4 corners. Taiko drummer; pivot and strike, Swordsman; pivot and strike, Judoka; pivot and throw. Posture is the same, stance is the same, motion slightly different. The sound of the drum tells the Taiko drummer what the most efficient and powerful motion of his arms and torso is and repetition grooves and strengthens that motion. The swordsman learns the perfect alignment of hands, shoulders, torso, hips, legs, and feet to maintain balance, posture, and grip while swinging an object very fast. I know you study kumi kata so this will be interesting for you: get your sword-sized stick and secure a heavy object at the end of it. Bring the practice sword up directly over head and strike downward as if you were going to cut your opponent's head in half right down to their belly button, if you almost hit your feet or legs with your practice sword then swordsmanship just taught you (as a Judoka) something about grip, posture, stance, and balance. Also, unless you have been taught by a swordsman the proper grip, posture, and motion to strike with a sword with one knee on the ground you can never fully enjoy what a drop seoi nage can truly produce.
Yes you're right they're all related, footwork swinging motion etc, Aikido was all based on the sword even open hand techniques, you can find them in some judo techniques like morote seoi nage, when you turn and throw it's like turning and striking with the sword and uki otoshi it's like going down on one knee and putting your sword on your hip...brilliant analogy thank you.
I really do like this comment/analogy. I used to use the swordsmanship example as well to even teach the guys at our dojo the importance of posture, stance and ala. Had them practice with a bo to check their motion and posture + footwork. Then practice some knife fighting to get the idea of keeping hands close and reflexes sharp so they can do grip fighting a bit better than before. And used much of the example of farmer plowing land as the motion of throwing (swinging the axe overhead to get to penetrate the soil) which is similar to the ippon seoi and morose seoi. Inspiring analysis good sr
Jūjutsuka trained hard core back then. Why they stopped, is beyond me. I mean Jūdo and BJJ both train live and hard and Japanese Jūjutsu used to. I mean, apply the techniques of classical Jūjutsu to Jūdo, and then you pretty much have classical Jūjutsu again. And Judo and Jūjutsu and modern Jūjutsu is Judo. Now I am aware that Jigiro Kano trained in several koryu styles of Jūjutsu and saw how they were very aggressive and brutal. Because they were like rough-and-tumble basically. Because these martial arts were made for battlefield combat. But they lacked structure. So Kano took everything he learned in various Jūjutsu styles and made “Kano Jūjutsu” before it was later changed to “Judo” which was in 1925 and Kano even said that “Jūjutsu are the techniques, but Judo is a way of life”. So Judo is still a modern form of Jūjutsu. They are both using the same techniques but apply them in different structures. Judo is the true modern Jūjutsu. And every, ”modern Jūjutsu style” uses Judo as a base but takes techniques and methods from old Jūjutsu styles. Like Nihon Jūjutsu, Modern Taiho Jutsu, and so on.
I hope to be a Sensie in traditional Japanese Jujutsu and run my own DOJO im not only hoping its going to happen im a Green Belt and will continue my Training hardcore as a jujutsu Shehan complimented me that i have Tenacity so with this great instructor giving me the kindest words i will not Fail him.
There's no reason to learn both unless you want to do it just for fun and new experiences. You'll learn all the same stuff in jujutsu and much more. If you can find a good teacher of muromachi era or sengoku era jujutsu then always choose that. If you can only find good instructors of judo or Brazilian judo then go for that.
@@Sensei_Gaz there should be some sparring of some sort to get the same mechanics that you would be doing like rolling in bjj... hope that helps.. the "liveness" of any martial art helps
I think some already told you, but it is a mistake to say that there was no grappling and struggle system in ancient China. These are very old combat systems identified since the Qin dynasty (3rd century BC). They were called Shou bo but the names have changed over the course of history, up to Shuai jiao (Chinese wrestling) ... Such things cannot be revolutions (it reminds me of the Westerners of the 19th century who thought that Asians did not know the punch) ...
And if you give credit back further, one hominid called it a good time, and another called it rape. 😉 When two people roll around after a fight eventually goes to the floor, if one person bites the other do we give credit to the Brazilians, the Chinese,? The Americans or the caveman? Because personally I think the wolf did it first.
Eu acredito que lutar é algo intuitivo. O que muda em sistemas de combate são em grande parte seu legado cultural e histórico. Mas de um ponto de vista mais raso todos os povos desenvolveram estilos de luta que embora tenham suas particularidades, ainda sim são parecidos. O boxe inglês e o karatê japonês possuem suas diferenças, mas ambos ensinam a usar os punhos como armas.
A skilled grappler may dominate a skilled striker *if* the grappler has trained and sparred against skilled striking. The reverse is also true. I am biased toward grappling because that is most of my experience, but I have sparred with skilled strikers and have no illusions about easily closing with them and taking them down or clinching to a bar or choke. It is almost like re-learning, fine-tuning, and improving many things while sparring with them. One of my favorite instructors has often emphasize that grapplers should train to use striking to set up their grappling, and strikers should train to grapple setting up their striking. FWIW: The "Karate Nerd" has started a new series of videos investigating the historical influence of various Chinese Kung-Fu on Okinawan Karate. I love your channel content, thank you again.
Jogoro Kano visited library, where he studied old western books of hand-to-hand combat (see German medieval wrestling). Kano highly estimated western skills of fighting. It seems judo was also influenced by German martial arts.
Interesting but not really following the title. Seems to get stuck on Judo a lot. Ju Jitsu, Ju Jitsu, Jui-Jitsu has evolved into some really great systems still using the JJ name.
Me interessa muito saber a respeito de artes marciais ancestrais. Acredito que dá para aprender muito e aprimorar o presente relembrando o passado. A filosofia do judô me agrada muito. Hoje sou faixa azul, passei pelo boxe e muay thai. Fiz umas aulas de karate e jiu-jitsu. E a luta agarrada é a minha paixão.
It's inaccurate to say that Judo was always a sport. There's a lot of Judo techniques that are not allowed in judo as the sport we know today. Judo was (and is) very much a budo.
@@elephantju-jitsu3086 No it was not. It was created to be a (higher) form of jujutsu, but with all techniques based on the principle of Senryoku Zenyo. Everything else was discarded. Jigoro Kano later also thought of applying his methods in a form of physical education, but definitely not a sport. In fact, Kano thought of sport to be too single purpose and as such could overburden specific parts of the body, while neglecting others. This was not in line with his vision of Judo and physical education. All this is pretty much described in his book Kodokan Judo.
@@slickdandy HAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHA Ju-Jitsu already had everything Judo had in it and it is 100% a lower form of Ju-Jitsu. What you are saying is completely wrong.
@@elephantju-jitsu3086 just because you interpret the word "higher" in a way I didnt intend to, doesnt mean Im wrong. I guess I shouldve left that word out. But seeing you disregard all the other things I said... I guess its not worth it.
Shuai Jiao (chinese wrestling) is the most ancient of all chinese martial arts with a history of over 4,000 years. Its first recorded use, in a military engagement was when the Yellow Emperor of China fought against the rebel Chih Yiu and his army, 2,697BC. It is the root and foundation of Chinese martial arts. 527A.D the Shaolin temple and its monks became heavily involved in non lethal Qin Na (Joint Locking) techniques. Japanese Jujutsu has its origins in these arts and the subsequent throwing/grappling arts of Japan/Korea and Brazil.
Grappling is the oldest system of fighting in Every culture on earth. Every nation has a grappling system. Fact. The human body all have the same body structure so a armlock throw or takedowns is going to be the same or very close in all grappling system. Example the ancient angkorwat temple in cambodia shows body triangles with rear naked chokes, kimuras and leg locks. The eygtian mural from 4500 years ago shows all judo type judos along with what looks like western wrestling and all manners of locks n holds. Let me know if u want to see the links to the ancient murals n stone carvings. So shuai jiao looking like judo doesnt mean jujutsu came entirely from the cchinese. More likely convergent evolution through actual combat. Ancient Eygyptian grappling images.app.goo.gl/qAozMhaAXXCTjPEg7 Ancient cambodian grappling images.app.goo.gl/MdtsEkPJNDgpsQdz8 images.app.goo.gl/ecCvxLnXypihhv3k8
@@mongolchiuud8931 No one is talking about the origins of grappling/wrestling. The author of this video stated 'that the oldest forms of jujutsu in 1532 (arguably 17th century according to Bugei Shogen and Kempo Hisho texts) were revolutionary because in the far east including China, these countries relied on striking based martial arts" not grappling arts. My point was to remind the author that the chinese had indeed grappling in their arsenal of fighting predating 1532. Japanese Jujutsu has its origins in the Yoshin Ryu forms. The founder of this system Akiyama Shirobei Yoshitoki went to CHINA in the seventeen century to study medicine and learned Chinese martial arts and their main principles of application. In particular he studied the techniques of percussion which appear to be the main technical concern of this school. His personal training program included both physical exercises and meditation. Chinese influence upon that school of thought in Japan which held its principle of nonresistance to be superior to all others, not only in a moral sense but also (and to the warrior above all) in the concrete and practical reality of combat. If you study the history of Japan and its culture, you will learn that the Japanese studied and referenced chinese forms of culture, strategy and ideologies (especially warfare) since the history of Japan is so embedded in internal strife and China has a long history of advanced militarism and weapons/fighting technologies as far as 1500B.C In 710-784 (Nara Period) Japanese bureaucracy is patterned on the Chinese model. Also, the all ruling Shogunate of feudal Japan were not very welcoming of any outside influence in it's complex structures of belief systems, governance and it's armies. But they did model and adapt to many chinese models cultures. During the Heian period they adapted to the complexities of chinese culture and added to their academics chinese classics, confucianism, chinese poetry, thirteen classics, including the i-ching, five classics. All these cultures and its influences were congenial to the Japanese of feudal times.
@@gsg9ff and where does it say yoshin ryu founder went to china in the 1700s? if y ou cant show a link/source other than wikipedia than pls stop lying it is embarrassing.
@@gsg9ff also I was maming a point about how just because the throws n grips look similar doesnt mean they are related/ duh look at all the jacket wrestling system in Georgia and the caucsus or in eastern europe and sweden etc all use moves and rules just like judo and shuai jiao. ruclips.net/video/Un1DIRSQ0k4/видео.html ruclips.net/user/results?search_query=Cornish+wrestling ruclips.net/user/results?search_query=Schwingen+wrestling www.martialartstube.net/gouren-breton-wrestling/
Judo was a term used in Kito Ryu, the teacher would say the word Judo if people were training to rough he would say JUDO JUDO meaning to slow down ease up not so rough,
Hi I have a large library of old books dating back to the 1890s I would have read it in one of then Im not sure which book off hand but will have a look when I get a chance, I really enjoy your Videos as I love the history also when I find it I will sen you the details I have subscribed to your channel
Having trained in kempo, aiki, kodakan, iai and Kenjitsui I have a little knowledge of jui jitsui. Even before the meiji era and Buddhist monks and the first named in the 1400's jui jitsui was being used before the advent of dojo's as shop keeper's needed to protect their income against samurai and vegabond's and theives. The fact was that it didn't have a name so it wasn't widely written in script and was handed down through their families. Much knowledge as been lost through families not having siblings to carry the techniques on.
Jujitsu = Usti Juj = Gusti JUJ it was invented by my own Great Grandfather and taught to the Japanese as part of Budo. In Malaya he was known as the Champion of Grappling Gusti Adipati and beat the Malaysians and Indonesians. He was also Emperor Tokugawa III Nippon Shogun. He was cousins with Emperor Meji. After that the Japanese took over Malaysia and Indonesia. 🥋🤴🏽⚡️🤴🏽🕉🔺➕
Pls chadi,what is soft about judo,pls explain to what u or they mean by the soft aspect of fighting or the softness of judo,because randori,newaza and nagekomi isn't looking like soft to me
The "softness" in Judo, coming from the JU part, means that in Judo (and also in Aikido, and in forms of karate (shotokan, wado ryu) for example) one does nog use force (hardness) to win from force, but counter it with softness (flexibility if you will) instead. In practise, this means that you would use the power and/or momentum of your opponent to execute your techniques. And while the idea is solid, in reality this is VERY hard to do in a real fight. Which is why doesnt look soft at all when you watch a match. Also, the softness says nothing about how it feels on the receiving end of a judo technique ;-)
Chadi..I would like to ask you if I can use some of your clips for my owne video I'm making. I'm making a YT channel for older BJJ folks and want to use these videos as a reference. I will reference your YT Channel.
Good video. But in the UFC most fights end by KO, TKO or Stopages. Not submissions. So skilled grappler vs skilled striker goes to the striker most times.
Jujutsu originated in Japan, it's not of Indian or Chinese origin, there also is no evidence of Indian influence on Chinese martial arts. The only evidence for influence is some 17th century fictional novel.
@@eagle162 If by martial arts you mean armed fighting of Chinese armies, then maybe you're right. On the other hand, all "quan " systems, aka "kung fu styles", are derived from Indian crafts. Every single of them, including Wudang.
There are ryuha far older than Takenouchi Ryu and striking occurred from the very beginning. Research in this video is lacking and has numerous errors.
Jiu Jitsu takes its roots from Buddhist Monks, for the techniques, about how famous it became its related to raise of the Meji Era and when samurai lost theirs priviledges (like wear weapons in town). So many things are missing, this video is roughly out of subject.
A caveat though is that the term Judo was made by Kito Ryu which is the predessor of modern Judo, so the term wasn't chosen from outside of it's lineage heritage.
Kevion Rogers yeah the term judo was used by a past kito ryu master, kano just reintroduced the term. Fun fact: judo is considered to be the direct successor to kito ryu as kano received his menkyo kaiden from his master’s family. And judo contained ALL of kito ryu’s kata(koshiki no kata in judo is actually just kito ryu’s nage no kata. along side the ones he invented himself for judo.
a doco on luta livre would be great.As far as I know there is only 5 people world wide that holds black belt in both bjj and luta livre....some are 1) UFC 7 champ Marco Ruas, 2) Brazilian top team ( Rio ) Milton Viera. anaconda 3) Rio fighters..Daniel Hortegas ( speak English ). 4) Nova Uniao ..Daniel "Pirata" Malvino Then theres, Nova Uniao no gi legend coach Roberto Leitao ( 83 years old and speak English ) . Jose Also defeat to Policemen Luciano Azervedo (ruclips.net/video/DZDEw96EgWM/видео.html )...... links ruclips.net/user/results?search_query=luta+livre+spirit , France ruclips.net/video/d6CdDl7rgUE/видео.html
One point about neighboring countries relying on striking than grappling, Actually the first Chinese martial art was a grappling art called Shuai Jiao which is very similar to Judo. check these links here... ruclips.net/video/aRcpoROo4xU/видео.html ruclips.net/video/D0QScXWruf4/видео.html
There's actually evidence there were wrestling styles in China that resemble freestyle wrestling. They have found things such as combs with carvings of freestyle type wrestling in China (no jacket). They might have gone extinct in China.
@@SI-ln6tc Tai Ji chuen is actually a no jacket type of wrestling. I am not talking about the meditations and "chi" type of Tai Ji here. I am talking that about the grappling art of Tai Ji that resembles Greco roman style in some ways. Check the link below. This is real Tai Ji! Not the mystical power nonsense "chi" Taiji. And I know that lots of wrestling forms have multiple origins. ruclips.net/video/leuf-5pZaaw/видео.html
Interesting but you have to understand there is a redundancy in saying “Japanese JuJutsu,” as the martial art is ONLY original and rooted in Japan. There is no such thing as British Karate or South African Tae-Kwon-Do for that same reason; there is only the art. Anyone else that developed a “system” based on any traditional style, might as well come up with an appropriate name for it. For instance, there is nothing Japanese in the abhorrence (not a martial art) of the so called “Brazilian JuJutsu.”
As usual your videos are incorrect. Jujutsu was developed during the Muromachi era, but most likely even earlier as it's difficult to tell with the lack of records kept back then. Jujutsu came from Chinese Shaolin Qin'na techniques. The Japanese learned Qinna from the Chinese and perfected it by applying better footwork, physics and war philosophy. Grappling came from China! Despite what you say in the video Judo is fundamentally different. I consider all Gendai jujutsu as Judo. Weak styles with weak teachers. Jujutsu is a war art and it's meant to be trained as such. If your sensei isn't throwing you on your skull and punching you in the face then find another instructor!!
@@Chadi For this Chadi I will have to teach you the history of Japan. The Nara and Heian era in Japan were dominated by Chinese culture. The buddhist teachings of China had strongly influenced Japan and there were many buddhist monks during the Nara period influenced by the Shaolin temple. There were a group of monks called Kouya Hijiri. At this time warrior monks started appearing in China and Japan followed suit and the Kouya Hijiri created the Shugendo temple. Followers of the Tendai sect of Shugendo would be known as Sohei, Shujenga or Yamabushi (buddhist warrior monks). These monks over the course of a few hundred years perfected Chinese military arts and created the first bujutsu. Now it's the Kamakura era and eventually the other buddhist temples follow suit and create their own secret schools of bujutsu and go to war with each other. Both the samurai and shinobi classes were born from Shugendo bujutsu techniques and these events created feudal era Japan. Then for hundreds of years these clans fought each other and only the strongest bujutsu remained. If you have actually done much research on the oldest koryu then you will see "Yamabushi" appear a lot. And you will see all the most prominent Japanese families tied to these events. Shaolin Qin'na is the full curriculum from where Taijutsu was born. Each Japanese school would choose their favorite set of the over 700 Chin'na hand techniques. They quickly learned of the flimsy footwork and other weaknesses with Chinese arts and made it superior. Qin'na even shows the original categories used by the Japanese still to this day. They are seperated into joint locks, bone breaking, muscle tearing, stangulation and vital points. These are the strongest of all military arts. Even to this day these arts are still secret and they do not show outsiders. Shadi if you live in Japan then go to the Katori Shinto ryu hombu dojo and ask to be accepted by soke. You will understand the power of true bujutsu!
I practice Aikido and we practice a lot disarming an opponent. Aikido comes from Jujutsu too, and this aspect is very logical to evolve from Jujutsu when it was still a combat Martial art used in war
I love traditional Japanese Jujutsu
Yo this channel is so underrated. Amazing content.
Thank you Nadeem
I think a lot of people in English speaking countries (especially if they've never looked into or studies other languages & the way they operate) really take the "Ju" of ju jutsu/judo way too English literally, this is evident when u see ppl posting or saying things like "there's nothing gentle about the gentle way/art at all" . Now I'm not fluent in Japanese nor am I a linguistic scholar or expert but it is to my understanding that the word "Ju" has more of a complex meaning than just the word gentle like someone in USA would use it . JU refers more to a pliable flowing softness like titanium super strong but soft and bendable at same time . Probably off topic but still just my 2 cents lol
That's a good point
Das traduções possíveis, a que mais me agrada para "Ju" é "flexível". A capacidade de se adaptar para ser eficiente. Um judoca contra um oponente mais pesado, por exemplo. Se o oponente faz força para frente, o judoca utiliza uma técnica que seja útil nessa situação (ippon seoi nage, koshi guruma, ogoshi etc.), se ele faz força para trás o judoca utiliza a técnica que lhe favorece (uchi gari, morote gari, osoto gari).
Sensei explained ‘ju’ to me as ‘strong in the way a willow is strong rather than in the way an oak is.’
100% accurate…the PLIABLE art
I don’t understand how this channel doesn’t have one million subscribers. These videos are fascinating.
That's because people in America are caught up in the Brazilian jiu-jitsu cult and can't see anything else outside of anything Brazilian.
judo is JJ. thanks for clarifying i have been trying to educate people the truth. a few minutes in and I wish i could show everyone that needs to see this video. great vid cant wait to finish it.
Thanks Chadi for the footage, Grabling arts are universal in human civilisation same with striking arts and has nothing to do with how martial arts are today, there are many reasons to why they are like this today but we need, a lot of time to analyze the history of each. Judo"jentle way" became the one way not just an art in Japan like ju jutsu " jentle art" but the main way of philosophical, phisical and spiritual training-education with which the Japanese strive to achieve socioeconomical wellbeing through the wellbeing of each individual. I find it pretty smart to train the body along with the mind cause today I see western civilization forgetting the body which will bring us to a sterile future.
Yes exactly that is a brilliant insight
I want to add that before judo in ancient Greek Olympics the motto was "Νους υγιής εν σώματι ήγιες" a healthy mind into(or and) a healthy body. Jigoro kano was extremely fond of this, that's why he had all those trips to ancient Olympia in Greece and he strived in achieving of getting judo into the Olympics, and even though he didn't see that happening while alive, he achieved it. Judo is aswell the connection of Japan with the whole world its not just the jentle way to personal achievement its the way of Japan to befriend the rest of humanity with altruism.
@@nikolaosmandamandiotis8970 wow did not know that! He participated in several olympic openings (Stockholm is one of them) and 1932 they made a judo demonstration.
@@Chadi my judo sensei have some rare photos of JK in ancient Olympia he came here in Greece atleast 2, some say 8 times to see by himself the place where Olympics were born. Too bad that not many know of this story and even less speak about it. Anyway in ancient Greek wrestling you needed 3 ippons to win and there was a kind of competitive wrestling in which you only used fingers wrists and arm locks called "ακροχειρισμος" which reminds aikido in a way but it was more brutal and realistic than what aikido has become today.
Fantastic video on the origin acient jujitsu!.... I always wanted to learn jujitsu
i had my first lesson in japaneese jujutsu two weeks ago and it was amazing and at the end of the first lesson we started sparring and i was throuwn through the entire dojo can not wait to learn more
Dude same, I started 4 weeks ago now, I loved it so much, on the first lesson I was already getting thrown on evert move I did, it was so fun
What style was it? It can be hard to find Japanese jujutsu styles that spar
@@md_f_dnn i will ask my sensei but it could also be dojo specific i will also sending the website
@@yeout4386 the website would be very much appreciated
@@md_f_dnn acctually not really. In my dojo we spar, we mix in striking martial arts so we spar both
Get a 3' stick and hold it the same way Zatoichi held his sword and do Koshi Guruma. Get your practice knife (wooden or plastic) hold it in your power hand and do shadow kumi kata. Then hold a staff at least 5' long (consider one end as the spear head) and do your shadow kumi kata. Watch a Taiko drummer grip their sticks and the motion when they bring the stick over their heads then back down to the drum, their posture and their stance...what does it remind you of? Once in awhile the Taiko drummer will pivot and strike another drum. Watch a swordsman do his kata, pivot and strike at 4 corners. Taiko drummer; pivot and strike, Swordsman; pivot and strike, Judoka; pivot and throw. Posture is the same, stance is the same, motion slightly different. The sound of the drum tells the Taiko drummer what the most efficient and powerful motion of his arms and torso is and repetition grooves and strengthens that motion. The swordsman learns the perfect alignment of hands, shoulders, torso, hips, legs, and feet to maintain balance, posture, and grip while swinging an object very fast. I know you study kumi kata so this will be interesting for you: get your sword-sized stick and secure a heavy object at the end of it. Bring the practice sword up directly over head and strike downward as if you were going to cut your opponent's head in half right down to their belly button, if you almost hit your feet or legs with your practice sword then swordsmanship just taught you (as a Judoka) something about grip, posture, stance, and balance. Also, unless you have been taught by a swordsman the proper grip, posture, and motion to strike with a sword with one knee on the ground you can never fully enjoy what a drop seoi nage can truly produce.
Yes you're right they're all related, footwork swinging motion etc, Aikido was all based on the sword even open hand techniques, you can find them in some judo techniques like morote seoi nage, when you turn and throw it's like turning and striking with the sword and uki otoshi it's like going down on one knee and putting your sword on your hip...brilliant analogy thank you.
I really do like this comment/analogy. I used to use the swordsmanship example as well to even teach the guys at our dojo the importance of posture, stance and ala. Had them practice with a bo to check their motion and posture + footwork. Then practice some knife fighting to get the idea of keeping hands close and reflexes sharp so they can do grip fighting a bit better than before. And used much of the example of farmer plowing land as the motion of throwing (swinging the axe overhead to get to penetrate the soil) which is similar to the ippon seoi and morose seoi. Inspiring analysis good sr
Unarmed combat vs a swordsman or man mounted on a horse. Very similar to Hopkido in terms of low and mid establishment of technique.
I have studyed Hapkido I like it especially cane class and learning breaks
Thank you for introducing my style my friend
Jūjutsuka trained hard core back then. Why they stopped, is beyond me.
I mean Jūdo and BJJ both train live and hard and Japanese Jūjutsu used to. I mean, apply the techniques of classical Jūjutsu to Jūdo, and then you pretty much have classical Jūjutsu again. And Judo and Jūjutsu and modern Jūjutsu is Judo. Now I am aware that Jigiro Kano trained in several koryu styles of Jūjutsu and saw how they were very aggressive and brutal. Because they were like rough-and-tumble basically. Because these martial arts were made for battlefield combat. But they lacked structure. So Kano took everything he learned in various Jūjutsu styles and made “Kano Jūjutsu” before it was later changed to “Judo” which was in 1925 and Kano even said that “Jūjutsu are the techniques, but Judo is a way of life”. So Judo is still a modern form of Jūjutsu. They are both using the same techniques but apply them in different structures. Judo is the true modern Jūjutsu. And every, ”modern Jūjutsu style” uses Judo as a base but takes techniques and methods from old Jūjutsu styles. Like Nihon Jūjutsu, Modern Taiho Jutsu, and so on.
Thank you!
Thank you Darrel
I love Traditional Jujutsu i Study Kenshin Ryu Jujutsu and i sincerely recommend it.
great video very informative and you are very well spoken
Thank you
I hope to be a Sensie in traditional Japanese Jujutsu and run my own DOJO im not only hoping its going to happen im a Green Belt and will continue my Training hardcore as a jujutsu Shehan complimented me that i have Tenacity so with this great instructor giving me the kindest words i will not Fail him.
brilliant video thank you Chadi 🙏🙏🙏
I would love to learn samurai jiu-jitsu and judo
It's never too late to start
Aikijitsu.
Where do you live?I know Jujitsu teachers all over the us.
@@12tribeschildrenofisrael12 Small town in Louisiana
There's no reason to learn both unless you want to do it just for fun and new experiences. You'll learn all the same stuff in jujutsu and much more. If you can find a good teacher of muromachi era or sengoku era jujutsu then always choose that. If you can only find good instructors of judo or Brazilian judo then go for that.
I train in Japanese jujitsu, aikijujutsu, and hapkido now... love it...
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wow, how many years have you been training?
@@tobiasjeppesen9528 25 years
Do you think it's ok to train JJJ without sparring, as long as you're cross training in BJJ and sparring in that?
@@Sensei_Gaz there should be some sparring of some sort to get the same mechanics that you would be doing like rolling in bjj... hope that helps.. the "liveness" of any martial art helps
Strap in folks this is gonna be good
I think some already told you, but it is a mistake to say that there was no grappling and struggle system in ancient China. These are very old combat systems identified since the Qin dynasty (3rd century BC). They were called Shou bo but the names have changed over the course of history, up to Shuai jiao (Chinese wrestling) ... Such things cannot be revolutions (it reminds me of the Westerners of the 19th century who thought that Asians did not know the punch) ...
And if you give credit back further, one hominid called it a good time, and another called it rape. 😉 When two people roll around after a fight eventually goes to the floor, if one person bites the other do we give credit to the Brazilians, the Chinese,? The Americans or the caveman? Because personally I think the wolf did it first.
Eu acredito que lutar é algo intuitivo. O que muda em sistemas de combate são em grande parte seu legado cultural e histórico. Mas de um ponto de vista mais raso todos os povos desenvolveram estilos de luta que embora tenham suas particularidades, ainda sim são parecidos. O boxe inglês e o karatê japonês possuem suas diferenças, mas ambos ensinam a usar os punhos como armas.
Just posted this on my Facebook wall. Thank you for sharing!
Thank you Stephen! I really appreciate it
A skilled grappler may dominate a skilled striker *if* the grappler has trained and sparred against skilled striking. The reverse is also true.
I am biased toward grappling because that is most of my experience, but I have sparred with skilled strikers and have no illusions about easily closing with them and taking them down or clinching to a bar or choke. It is almost like re-learning, fine-tuning, and improving many things while sparring with them.
One of my favorite instructors has often emphasize that grapplers should train to use striking to set up their grappling, and strikers should train to grapple setting up their striking.
FWIW: The "Karate Nerd" has started a new series of videos investigating the historical influence of various Chinese Kung-Fu on Okinawan Karate.
I love your channel content, thank you again.
Thank you for your insight! There's no superiority in that fight it can go really either way because of so many factors.
4:33 Judo came from JJ because the developer or creator core knowledge was karate and Jujutsu. It became a sport so it could be taught in schools.
This was truly our Jujutsu Kaisen 🗣🔥🔥🔥
Jogoro Kano visited library, where he studied old western books of hand-to-hand combat (see German medieval wrestling). Kano highly estimated western skills of fighting. It seems judo was also influenced by German martial arts.
Fica aí uma lição para nós, artistas marciais. Ter a mente aberta para aprender e aprimorar nosso conhecimento.
Great thanks
Interesting but not really following the title. Seems to get stuck on Judo a lot. Ju Jitsu, Ju Jitsu, Jui-Jitsu has evolved into some really great systems still using the JJ name.
In the past, judo was much more effective than it is today. There are too many restrictions.
Me interessa muito saber a respeito de artes marciais ancestrais. Acredito que dá para aprender muito e aprimorar o presente relembrando o passado. A filosofia do judô me agrada muito. Hoje sou faixa azul, passei pelo boxe e muay thai. Fiz umas aulas de karate e jiu-jitsu. E a luta agarrada é a minha paixão.
I wanna learn it for CQC. Some people are challenging me, and I wanna be ready for fight.
Does anybody know the name of the armbar at 3:25 from Kesa Gatame?
Judo was always and is currently a sport. It can definitely be used in self-defense but it is a sport with its own scoring system.
It's inaccurate to say that Judo was always a sport. There's a lot of Judo techniques that are not allowed in judo as the sport we know today. Judo was (and is) very much a budo.
@@slickdandy it is accurate. it was created specifically to be a sport.
@@elephantju-jitsu3086 No it was not. It was created to be a (higher) form of jujutsu, but with all techniques based on the principle of Senryoku Zenyo. Everything else was discarded. Jigoro Kano later also thought of applying his methods in a form of physical education, but definitely not a sport. In fact, Kano thought of sport to be too single purpose and as such could overburden specific parts of the body, while neglecting others. This was not in line with his vision of Judo and physical education. All this is pretty much described in his book Kodokan Judo.
@@slickdandy HAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHA Ju-Jitsu already had everything Judo had in it and it is 100% a lower form of Ju-Jitsu. What you are saying is completely wrong.
@@elephantju-jitsu3086 just because you interpret the word "higher" in a way I didnt intend to, doesnt mean Im wrong. I guess I shouldve left that word out. But seeing you disregard all the other things I said... I guess its not worth it.
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Shuai Jiao (chinese wrestling) is the most ancient of all chinese martial arts with a history of over 4,000 years. Its first recorded use, in a military engagement was when the Yellow Emperor of China fought against the rebel Chih Yiu and his army, 2,697BC. It is the root and foundation of Chinese martial arts.
527A.D the Shaolin temple and its monks became heavily involved in non lethal Qin Na (Joint Locking) techniques. Japanese Jujutsu has its origins in these arts and the subsequent throwing/grappling arts of Japan/Korea and Brazil.
Thank you for this information
Grappling is the oldest system of fighting in Every culture on earth. Every nation has a grappling system. Fact.
The human body all have the same body structure so a armlock throw or takedowns is going to be the same or very close in all grappling system.
Example the ancient angkorwat temple in cambodia shows body triangles with rear naked chokes, kimuras and leg locks.
The eygtian mural from 4500 years ago shows all judo type judos along with what looks like western wrestling and all manners of locks n holds. Let me know if u want to see the links to the ancient murals n stone carvings.
So shuai jiao looking like judo doesnt mean jujutsu came entirely from the cchinese.
More likely convergent evolution through actual combat.
Ancient Eygyptian grappling
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Ancient cambodian grappling
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No one is talking about the origins of grappling/wrestling.
The author of this video stated 'that the oldest forms of jujutsu in 1532 (arguably 17th century according to Bugei Shogen and Kempo Hisho texts) were revolutionary because in the far east including China, these countries relied on striking based martial arts" not grappling arts. My point was to remind the author that the chinese had indeed grappling in their arsenal of fighting predating 1532. Japanese Jujutsu has its origins in the Yoshin Ryu forms. The founder of this system Akiyama Shirobei Yoshitoki went to CHINA in the seventeen century to study medicine and learned Chinese martial arts and their main principles of application. In particular he studied the techniques of percussion which appear to be the main technical concern of this school. His personal training program included both physical exercises and meditation. Chinese influence upon that school of thought in Japan which held its principle of nonresistance to be superior to all others, not only in a moral sense but also (and to the warrior above all) in the concrete and practical reality of combat.
If you study the history of Japan and its culture, you will learn that the Japanese studied and referenced chinese forms of culture, strategy and ideologies (especially warfare) since the history of Japan is so embedded in internal strife and China has a long history of advanced militarism and weapons/fighting technologies as far as 1500B.C In 710-784 (Nara Period) Japanese bureaucracy is patterned on the Chinese model. Also, the all ruling Shogunate of feudal Japan were not very welcoming of any outside influence in it's complex structures of belief systems, governance and it's armies. But they did model and adapt to many chinese models cultures. During the Heian period they adapted to the complexities of chinese culture and added to their academics chinese classics, confucianism, chinese poetry, thirteen classics, including the i-ching, five classics. All these cultures and its influences were congenial to the Japanese of feudal times.
@@gsg9ff and where does it say yoshin ryu founder went to china in the 1700s? if y ou cant show a link/source other than wikipedia than pls stop lying it is embarrassing.
@@gsg9ff also I was maming a point about how just because the throws n grips look similar doesnt mean they are related/ duh
look at all the jacket wrestling system in Georgia and the caucsus or in eastern europe and sweden etc all use moves and rules just like judo and shuai jiao.
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ruclips.net/user/results?search_query=Cornish+wrestling
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www.martialartstube.net/gouren-breton-wrestling/
Where does Daito ryu jujitsu fit into the history of jujitsu in general?
Daitouryu Aki jitsu. Gave raise to jujitsu, judo, Shorenji kempo..akido, and more.
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Can you please direct me to earlier 17th century reference to Judo in Japan as mentioned in this video
Judo was a term used in Kito Ryu, the teacher would say the word Judo if people were training to rough he would say JUDO JUDO meaning to slow down ease up not so rough,
I did not know this, it's good to know, any books or references for these little aspects of Kito Ryu?
Also where can i find a complete guide or pdf of Kito ryu techniques? That would really be useful and i would really appreciate it
Hi I have a large library of old books dating back to the 1890s I would have read it in one of then Im not sure which book off hand but will have a look when I get a chance, I really enjoy your Videos as I love the history also when I find it I will sen you the details I have subscribed to your channel
@@yawaragirl thank you so muc i really appreciate it, by the way i love the username you're using.
On one word ge was saying "gentle"
Having trained in kempo, aiki, kodakan, iai and Kenjitsui I have a little knowledge of jui jitsui. Even before the meiji era and Buddhist monks and the first named in the 1400's jui jitsui was being used before the advent of dojo's as shop keeper's needed to protect their income against samurai and vegabond's and theives. The fact was that it didn't have a name so it wasn't widely written in script and was handed down through their families. Much knowledge as been lost through families not having siblings to carry the techniques on.
Jujitsu = Usti Juj = Gusti JUJ it was invented by my own Great Grandfather and taught to the Japanese as part of Budo. In Malaya he was known as the Champion of Grappling Gusti Adipati and beat the Malaysians and Indonesians. He was also Emperor Tokugawa III Nippon Shogun. He was cousins with Emperor Meji. After that the Japanese took over Malaysia and Indonesia. 🥋🤴🏽⚡️🤴🏽🕉🔺➕
Pls chadi,what is soft about judo,pls explain to what u or they mean by the soft aspect of fighting or the softness of judo,because randori,newaza and nagekomi isn't looking like soft to me
I think it that it can be trained in a considerably safe environment and it hsnt striking and because its based on the idea of Maximum eficiency
The "softness" in Judo, coming from the JU part, means that in Judo (and also in Aikido, and in forms of karate (shotokan, wado ryu) for example) one does nog use force (hardness) to win from force, but counter it with softness (flexibility if you will) instead. In practise, this means that you would use the power and/or momentum of your opponent to execute your techniques. And while the idea is solid, in reality this is VERY hard to do in a real fight. Which is why doesnt look soft at all when you watch a match. Also, the softness says nothing about how it feels on the receiving end of a judo technique ;-)
Okinawa and China is not just striking even grappling
How many styles of traditional Japanese Jujutsu are there anyone fill me in on this?
Was it much different from brazillion jiu jitsu?
it was very useful. thanks. . If you would like to make a video about the history of freestyle wrestling, it was an ancient Iranian sport. Good luck
Chadi..I would like to ask you if I can use some of your clips for my owne video I'm making. I'm making a YT channel for older BJJ folks and want to use these videos as a reference. I will reference your YT Channel.
If you want to a few second to drive a point home that’s fine, but please do not upload an entire video with no interference.
@@Chadi It's just a few seconds and I will reference you.
Take Kwon Do did not exist as TKD until the 1950's.
I won a against guy who was 100ibs heavier and stronger and used Roman g but I used jitit chain punching . I also learned jitsu but Chinese style
Good video.
But in the UFC most fights end by KO, TKO or Stopages. Not submissions. So skilled grappler vs skilled striker goes to the striker most times.
What about before it got to Japan?
There's Chinese origins
As far as I know, the roots are in India, then it spread through China, assuming several different styles, and only then it got to Japan.
Jujutsu originated in Japan, it's not of Indian or Chinese origin, there also is no evidence of Indian influence on Chinese martial arts.
The only evidence for influence is some 17th century fictional novel.
Eagle 1 which novel is it?
@@eagle162 If by martial arts you mean armed fighting of Chinese armies, then maybe you're right. On the other hand, all "quan " systems, aka "kung fu styles", are derived from Indian crafts. Every single of them, including Wudang.
There are ryuha far older than Takenouchi Ryu and striking occurred from the very beginning. Research in this video is lacking and has numerous errors.
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Their order Ryuha but Takenouchi-ryū is the oldest school of Jujutsu, is what he's was saying I think.
Who are the gentlemen in the second demonstration?
Tobari and taro miyake
Thanks man!
9:12
J.j. for warfare judo sport.
Jiu Jitsu takes its roots from Buddhist Monks, for the techniques, about how famous it became its related to raise of the Meji Era and when samurai lost theirs priviledges (like wear weapons in town). So many things are missing, this video is roughly out of subject.
A caveat though is that the term Judo was made by Kito Ryu which is the predessor of modern Judo, so the term wasn't chosen from outside of it's lineage heritage.
Kevion Rogers yeah the term judo was used by a past kito ryu master, kano just reintroduced the term.
Fun fact: judo is considered to be the direct successor to kito ryu as kano received his menkyo kaiden from his master’s family. And judo contained ALL of kito ryu’s kata(koshiki no kata in judo is actually just kito ryu’s nage no kata. along side the ones he invented himself for judo.
1:45 Korea had no martial arts before the Japanese occupation though.. tekwondo took most of it from Karate😅
a doco on luta livre would be great.As far as I know there is only 5 people world wide that holds black belt in both bjj and luta livre....some are 1) UFC 7 champ Marco Ruas, 2) Brazilian top team ( Rio ) Milton Viera. anaconda 3) Rio fighters..Daniel Hortegas ( speak English ). 4) Nova Uniao ..Daniel "Pirata" Malvino Then theres, Nova Uniao no gi legend coach Roberto Leitao ( 83 years old and speak English ) . Jose Also defeat to Policemen Luciano Azervedo (ruclips.net/video/DZDEw96EgWM/видео.html )...... links ruclips.net/user/results?search_query=luta+livre+spirit , France ruclips.net/video/d6CdDl7rgUE/видео.html
You got it
your than man, oh a 5th one is Rousimar Palhares Brazilian Top Team.
But a fast skilled striker who can go in and out of range fast can also defeat grapplers before they get a chance to attack
It can go both ways
One point about neighboring countries relying on striking than grappling, Actually the first Chinese martial art was a grappling art called Shuai Jiao which is very similar to Judo. check these links here...
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ruclips.net/video/D0QScXWruf4/видео.html
Thank you, will do
There's actually evidence there were wrestling styles in China that resemble freestyle wrestling. They have found things such as combs with carvings of freestyle type wrestling in China (no jacket). They might have gone extinct in China.
@@SI-ln6tc Tai Ji chuen is actually a no jacket type of wrestling. I am not talking about the meditations and "chi" type of Tai Ji here. I am talking that about the grappling art of Tai Ji that resembles Greco roman style in some ways. Check the link below. This is real Tai Ji! Not the mystical power nonsense "chi" Taiji. And I know that lots of wrestling forms have multiple origins.
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So effectively it was Krav Maga for swords and spears 😂.
Interesting but you have to understand there is a redundancy in saying “Japanese JuJutsu,” as the martial art is ONLY original and rooted in Japan. There is no such thing as British Karate or South African Tae-Kwon-Do for that same reason; there is only the art. Anyone else that developed a “system” based on any traditional style, might as well come up with an appropriate name for it. For instance, there is nothing Japanese in the abhorrence (not a martial art) of the so called “Brazilian JuJutsu.”
As usual your videos are incorrect. Jujutsu was developed during the Muromachi era, but most likely even earlier as it's difficult to tell with the lack of records kept back then. Jujutsu came from Chinese Shaolin Qin'na techniques. The Japanese learned Qinna from the Chinese and perfected it by applying better footwork, physics and war philosophy. Grappling came from China! Despite what you say in the video Judo is fundamentally different. I consider all Gendai jujutsu as Judo. Weak styles with weak teachers. Jujutsu is a war art and it's meant to be trained as such. If your sensei isn't throwing you on your skull and punching you in the face then find another instructor!!
Where's the evidence to all your claims???
@@Chadi For this Chadi I will have to teach you the history of Japan.
The Nara and Heian era in Japan were dominated by Chinese culture. The buddhist teachings of China had strongly influenced Japan and there were many buddhist monks during the Nara period influenced by the Shaolin temple. There were a group of monks called Kouya Hijiri. At this time warrior monks started appearing in China and Japan followed suit and the Kouya Hijiri created the Shugendo temple. Followers of the Tendai sect of Shugendo would be known as Sohei, Shujenga or Yamabushi (buddhist warrior monks). These monks over the course of a few hundred years perfected Chinese military arts and created the first bujutsu. Now it's the Kamakura era and eventually the other buddhist temples follow suit and create their own secret schools of bujutsu and go to war with each other. Both the samurai and shinobi classes were born from Shugendo bujutsu techniques and these events created feudal era Japan. Then for hundreds of years these clans fought each other and only the strongest bujutsu remained.
If you have actually done much research on the oldest koryu then you will see "Yamabushi" appear a lot. And you will see all the most prominent Japanese families tied to these events. Shaolin Qin'na is the full curriculum from where Taijutsu was born. Each Japanese school would choose their favorite set of the over 700 Chin'na hand techniques. They quickly learned of the flimsy footwork and other weaknesses with Chinese arts and made it superior. Qin'na even shows the original categories used by the Japanese still to this day. They are seperated into joint locks, bone breaking, muscle tearing, stangulation and vital points. These are the strongest of all military arts. Even to this day these arts are still secret and they do not show outsiders. Shadi if you live in Japan then go to the Katori Shinto ryu hombu dojo and ask to be accepted by soke. You will understand the power of true bujutsu!
5:56 can someone please list the names of those martial arts? The subtitles didn't catch them
I practice Aikido and we practice a lot disarming an opponent. Aikido comes from Jujutsu too, and this aspect is very logical to evolve from Jujutsu when it was still a combat Martial art used in war