When this lockdown ends, you are the focal point of what has made me want to switch from BJJ to Judo. From one Leaf to another, thanks brother. Love the content!
Don't listen to @Counter Kidnapping if you want to frustrate your opponents and win every single match you go into, DO pull guard, stay true to your BJJ lineage my brother Oss!
@@counterkidnapping1737 My goal is to go in assuming I know nothing, because I don't in practice. I need the practice before I think I know what I am doing.
Can you make a video on the judo of the post-soviet-states (russia, baltic states, central asia, caucasus etc.)? Perhaps you can shed a light on their similiarities and their differences in style and technique and their judo-history.
You did a great job showing the evaluation of Korean grip fighting. I miss old school grip fighting you could score a small score and shut down a dynamic thrower.
@@Chadi both teams also use 3 man uchi komi drills very differently for their sholder throws. The Japanese step in deep like Koga for a standing throw and the Korean do a drop knee almost like a tuck and slide. There is video of Jeon doing a demo and throwing 2 men at once with his drop knee. French judoka Jean-Luc Rougé should get a video too show that dynamic French style y'all are so feared for.
I practice Korean Hwarang a Hapkido variant, that’s has a lot of common judo throws and sweeps, transitioning and starting my journey into judo I love your videos! Thank you so much.
Hey Chadi. This is Excellent!!!. I had the pleasure of training (briefly) under both Inchul Cho Sensei, and Han Sensei @ U.C. Berkeley. I can tell you that pinning Uke's arm to his belt is a Very Effective set up for Tsuri Komi Goshi. I got thrown for Ippon by a 56Kg Judoka with this technique and I was 100Kg at the time. I was stunned by it.... Anyway, your analyses are Excellent, but so much information that I think it could be broken down into 2 or 3 videos. Judo has evolved so much in the last 20 years. The classic grips and posture of the Japanese: The Georgian Obi grip; The Korean feints and cross-gripping... The Mongolian and Brazilian influences... Keep Up the Great Work!!! Cheers.
Definitely my 2 favorite countries to follow on Judo. @Chadi a video on how Judoka come up in Japan and Korea would be intriguing. The gladiator type schools of the masses, long hours of randori, high school, refinement, world teams, stipend from government, incentives, rock star status, etc.
Hmmm, I wanted to learn Judo, but couldn't find any Judo schools near me. There is, however, a Tae Kwon Do school that also teaches Yudo (Korean Judo). I think I'll visit them tomorrow.
I think using two arms to break grip is still fine as long as one is on the sleeve and lapel. If you use two arms to break a grip both on the sleeve or both on lapel is.
I have to say, i find it interesting you say its unethical about their grip fight tactics haha I would actually say grip fighting is half the battle in judo. Having been fortunate enough to train w professor Jeon, his grip fighting tactics weren’t to get false sense to penalize the opponent but to put them in an uncomfortable position that they would force a bad move to create an opportunity for you to execute your technique.
@@Chadi i havent watched the full clip of that video if he does suggest that is the intention of the pushing to create passivity penalty but from what I’ve learned from him was to push the arm to the stomach so that the opponent would either a. Try to get a high lapel grip over head w the other hand to which you can try various techniques like a sode or b. So that you can create space for other side. Haha from my experience, the professors style isnt one of passivity but one of creating opportunity to execute a throw
I've heard that the japanese emphasize the lapel-sleeve grip so much, especially in the amateur stage, because it is the most difficult grip to perform throwing from. And when you master the lapel-sleeve grip, then performing throws from other grips becomes easier to master. Is that true?
Your Channel is awsome. Im a hapkido- BJJ guy.. its so funny how close all these types arts are.. You should do a video on how hapkido ties into judo.. cheers man.
For Judo or wrestling the Japanese approach is more efficent. But for mma or the street, where anything can happen its better to keep them busy with your hands.
i think that if you plan to do MMA, korean justo may indeed blend better. but for self defense, the people that can display this level of skill are nearly unbeatable by an average joe.
@Stanly Stud yes, but at that point you should be a full on MMA fighter and styles dont matter anymore. and mind you, a good judoka can also fold a boxer. (though generally a speedy boxer seems a bad matchup for a judoka) Back when catch wrestling was a thing they did those kind of experiments, and on 1v1s grapplers tended to dominate. The street is another thing, though. and i think its better for self defense to be a good boxer, but judo wont hurt much. even boxing wont save you from a good boxer. haha
@Stanly Stud its not the punching its the footwork. On a diffrent note the mobile style of footworks works well in judo. Espcially against the heavy russian style of judokas.
Alsome video chadi what style do you think best translates to mma I always think probably Mongolian judo because they use a lot of underhooks and close range judo what do you think?
Right but for example a ouchi gari from sleeve and lapel works different to ouchi gari from under over position meaning close range which is how grappling works in mma and the Mongolians players are much more experienced at that range than say a Japanese player would be as there judo is a lot more traditional sleeve and lapel which is all good but when it comes to transitioning to mma it would be harder as there's no gi it would be a much easier transition with the mongolian style because the judo they do resembles the no gi clinch
@Lion Heart not Chadi but I think the main thing why would be Mongolians’ use of overhooks and underhooks. They would translate better towards no gi and grappling in general.
Chadi, how would you rate the newaza skills of the Koreans? There's a famous story from Chuck Norris about when he first met the Gracies while on vacation in Brazil he thought because he was a judo black belt he thought he could hold his own against them and was wrong. Norris' first art was judo, which he learned while stationed in South Korea in the late 1950s and early 60s. He achieved his brown belt and later received his black belt from Gene LeBell. Now, I know that not every school is going to focus on the same thing. Japan is a good example of that. Most focus on the Kodokan rule set, while the legendary Kosen schools focus on newaza and I'm sure South Korea is the same way. Are there any well known Korean newaza experts?
As fare as Korean newaza specialists go, Hwang Hee Tae is the only one I can think of. Kim Jae Bum had great newaza but he wasn't really a newaza "specialist", Kim was great in all aspects of his judo.
Honestly there should also be cover of Georgian and Mongolian Judo. If the japanese send their team to cross-train in Georgia or Mongolia, I think they would be invincible. Don't like France Judo, seem overly technical.
Seems that Paltchik traces his roots from Russia, Belarus, Ukraine. Very Slavonic surname, seems that his family came to Israil from one of this countries. His surname translates as a "finger".
..."and I think it's a bit unethical" what is the underlying goal to the game... like why play? Oh yeah that's right, because it's a martial art... you know an art that is oh idk... MARTIAL in nature... um if playing hard to get is against the rules, than that rule should be there to protect the players, not because ethics. Just my take on it. I just see rules like this as dividing the sports and self-defense camps even further. Do you want to fracture your art? Is it an appropriate time to drive that wedge? The martial arts based in Jiujitsu (Jiujitsu, Judo, Aikido, Brazilian jiu-jitsu, etc) are a product of Jiujitsu being fractured. It wasn't necessarily a bad thing. So maybe it's time for combat judo and sports judo to part ways, maybe it's not. I know one thing for sure. I'm not the guy with the answer to that.
You're preventing someone from attacking and you yourself are not attacking, that's stalling and causing penalties, that's no way to win, the goal is to show superior techniques, they didn't in wars by shidos they won with technical superiority.
@@Chadi Okay, so than the rule is there to keep the bout more accurate to how it would be if it where an actual fight, as it forces you to only stall momentarily, else there's consequence, as there would be in a fight where your opponent isn't restricted to solely Judo techniques, and thus you'd only get away with playing keep-away with your hands/wrists for a few seconds at best before your opponent would come up with something to change that or take advantage of it. Is this closer to your understanding? (Sorry my writing is atrocious, especially sentence structure and punctuation. I tend to simply dictate my internal monologue, and I speak in long chains of run-on sentences. I see the fluidity and flow of language, and struggle to see discreet separate concepts... if a sentence is a complete thought, than to me... life is one sentence. It's all interconnected... anyways sorry if it's annoying, at least now you can kinda understand why.)
Every judo practioner over the age of 50, male or female suffer from a malady of painful ramifications. Enjoy this strength while you are young...you will feel it when you are older.
There us actually Two Korean judo. One is Kodokan judo the other was really a spin off known as "Yudo" (with a "Y"). I don't know if they have merge together now. Before they were seperate arts. (Note: Of course many Korean Yudo practitioner would claim Yudo is a traditional Korean art and has no roots in Japanese judo.)
Yudo is Judo, with two differences. 1) Yudo adds one throw from traditional Korean wrestling. 2) Yudo focuses more on the original self defense philosophy, before Judo was sportified. I was stationed in Korea for two years, waaaay back in the 90's. I don't know if it's changed, but back then Yudo practicioners were banned from Judo competition.
@@young5005 yes, that's the Korean pronunciation. Just do a little research though, and you'll find that a distinction has been made over the years, mostly due to IJF/IOC sporting rule sets.
@@young5005 Yudo still includes the strikes that Kano included in Judo. A Judoka wouldn't rely on them as fight stoppers, but would use them to set up a throw. Most Yudo Dojangs, at least in Korea (very very rare anywhere else), also still teach the leg locks that have been banned from Judo competition. Someone who's trained in Yudo can spot it in a second, to a judo guy, or spectator, it can look like the Yudo practitioner is "busy" to down right cheating.
Korea stop copying Japan martials arts isnt funny anymore Sumo- ssireum Karate- tang soo do/tkd Aikido/akijutsu- hapkido/hankido Kendo-kumdo Comba ju jutsu- gongkwan yusul Shidokan- yungmoodo
When this lockdown ends, you are the focal point of what has made me want to switch from BJJ to Judo. From one Leaf to another, thanks brother. Love the content!
I'm honoured 🙇🏻♂️
Bjj to judo. One tips for you: Don't pull guard
Don't listen to @Counter Kidnapping if you want to frustrate your opponents and win every single match you go into, DO pull guard, stay true to your BJJ lineage my brother Oss!
@@counterkidnapping1737 My goal is to go in assuming I know nothing, because I don't in practice. I need the practice before I think I know what I am doing.
@@WillofStone08 buttscooting has no place in judo or real life
The koreans are really into tricks and feints with combination attacks.
Can you make a video on the judo of the post-soviet-states (russia, baltic states, central asia, caucasus etc.)? Perhaps you can shed a light on their similiarities and their differences in style and technique and their judo-history.
Sure
You did a great job showing the evaluation of Korean grip fighting. I miss old school grip fighting you could score a small score and shut down a dynamic thrower.
It is the root of their judo
@@Chadi both teams also use 3 man uchi komi drills very differently for their sholder throws. The Japanese step in deep like Koga for a standing throw and the Korean do a drop knee almost like a tuck and slide. There is video of Jeon doing a demo and throwing 2 men at once with his drop knee. French judoka Jean-Luc Rougé should get a video too show that dynamic French style y'all are so feared for.
@@ReisterJP french judo soon
I practice Korean Hwarang a Hapkido variant, that’s has a lot of common judo throws and sweeps, transitioning and starting my journey into judo I love your videos! Thank you so much.
I'm happy to know this! Thank you
ooh is hwa rang do?
This the most informative judo video I've ever seen! Thank you!
Hey Chadi. This is Excellent!!!. I had the pleasure of training (briefly) under both Inchul Cho Sensei, and Han Sensei @ U.C. Berkeley. I can tell you that pinning Uke's arm to his belt is a Very Effective set up for Tsuri Komi Goshi. I got thrown for Ippon by a 56Kg Judoka with this technique and I was 100Kg at the time. I was stunned by it.... Anyway, your analyses are Excellent, but so much information that I think it could be broken down into 2 or 3 videos. Judo has evolved so much in the last 20 years. The classic grips and posture of the Japanese: The Georgian Obi grip; The Korean feints and cross-gripping... The Mongolian and Brazilian influences... Keep Up the Great Work!!! Cheers.
Thank you
Always interesting, informative, and backed with real facts. Thank you.
Definitely my 2 favorite countries to follow on Judo.
@Chadi a video on how Judoka come up in Japan and Korea would be intriguing.
The gladiator type schools of the masses, long hours of randori, high school, refinement, world teams, stipend from government, incentives, rock star status, etc.
I LOVE your content, Chadi!! Pure passion.
Chadi…. Great job ….proud of you Lebanies brother …… greetings from Amman
Very nicely done. Thanks for posting.
My head Coach is a Korean dude. So cool. They got that speedy slick Judo.
Hmmm, I wanted to learn Judo, but couldn't find any Judo schools near me. There is, however, a Tae Kwon Do school that also teaches Yudo (Korean Judo). I think I'll visit them tomorrow.
jeon is the man! You should do one just on Jeon. Then another just on Koga
Remember Jeon vs Yoshida that was epic
It's on the list
@@ReisterJP wow thank you for you guys to like our biggest legend
This^
Example
Clear information can save years.
That's how the kids are going to be far better than in the past.
Indeed
I think using two arms to break grip is still fine as long as one is on the sleeve and lapel. If you use two arms to break a grip both on the sleeve or both on lapel is.
I have to say, i find it interesting you say its unethical about their grip fight tactics haha
I would actually say grip fighting is half the battle in judo. Having been fortunate enough to train w professor Jeon, his grip fighting tactics weren’t to get false sense to penalize the opponent but to put them in an uncomfortable position that they would force a bad move to create an opportunity for you to execute your technique.
The unethical part is pushing their hand to their stomach and make them look passive while Jeon not attacking too
@@Chadi i havent watched the full clip of that video if he does suggest that is the intention of the pushing to create passivity penalty but from what I’ve learned from him was to push the arm to the stomach so that the opponent would either a. Try to get a high lapel grip over head w the other hand to which you can try various techniques like a sode or b. So that you can create space for other side. Haha from my experience, the professors style isnt one of passivity but one of creating opportunity to execute a throw
Best video yet.
So when are we going to see a break down of YOUR judo chadi 😏😏
When it's decent 😂
@@Chadi you’re too humble
Yes, I wanna see Chadi throws someone in the air,
I've heard that the japanese emphasize the lapel-sleeve grip so much, especially in the amateur stage, because it is the most difficult grip to perform throwing from. And when you master the lapel-sleeve grip, then performing throws from other grips becomes easier to master. Is that true?
In a sense yes
Thanks for posting- exellent discriptiopns
The turning lapel shoulder throw is taught in Hapkido & Daito Ryu.
You mean reverse seoi nage?
Kano would be to see his being practiced everywhere
Excellent
Thank you
Yes thank you!!!
🙇🏻♂️
Both are great.
Your Channel is awsome. Im a hapkido- BJJ guy.. its so funny how close all these types arts are.. You should do a video on how hapkido ties into judo.. cheers man.
Thank you 🙇🏻♂️
Can you please do a video about German judo. Or maybe Dutch?
I'll add it to the list
For Judo or wrestling the Japanese approach is more efficent. But for mma or the street, where anything can happen its better to keep them busy with your hands.
Good point
i think that if you plan to do MMA, korean justo may indeed blend better. but for self defense, the people that can display this level of skill are nearly unbeatable by an average joe.
@Stanly Stud yes, but at that point you should be a full on MMA fighter and styles dont matter anymore. and mind you, a good judoka can also fold a boxer. (though generally a speedy boxer seems a bad matchup for a judoka)
Back when catch wrestling was a thing they did those kind of experiments, and on 1v1s grapplers tended to dominate. The street is another thing, though. and i think its better for self defense to be a good boxer, but judo wont hurt much.
even boxing wont save you from a good boxer. haha
@Stanly Stud its not the punching its the footwork. On a diffrent note the mobile style of footworks works well in judo. Espcially against the heavy russian style of judokas.
@Stanly Stud Try kani basami against a good boxer he is dead or just conclude that u don't understand the concept and psychology of judo
Alsome video chadi what style do you think best translates to mma I always think probably Mongolian judo because they use a lot of underhooks and close range judo what do you think?
I tend to think the same
No it’s those with the best sweeps, reaps, and défense
Right but for example a ouchi gari from sleeve and lapel works different to ouchi gari from under over position meaning close range which is how grappling works in mma and the Mongolians players are much more experienced at that range than say a Japanese player would be as there judo is a lot more traditional sleeve and lapel which is all good but when it comes to transitioning to mma it would be harder as there's no gi it would be a much easier transition with the mongolian style because the judo they do resembles the no gi clinch
What's the title of the background music?
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Just out of curiosity, which national style of Judo would you say best translates to BJJ competition?
Great video, thank you Chadi.
I'd say Mongolian for gi and no gi
@Lion Heart not Chadi but I think the main thing why would be Mongolians’ use of overhooks and underhooks. They would translate better towards no gi and grappling in general.
@@MuhTwo Fedor Emelianenko used underhooks alot and he's a Sambist
@@Chadi dear sensi;
Greetings;
May i ask why you did not say kosen judo?🙏🌹
koreans are also known for their tai otoshi (look at lee won hee).
Beautiful.
🤙🏻
What's the name of the beat you're using? I was trying to search it up
Why is breaking with both hands illegal?
But the korean style was banned...
유도 Korean Judo 😊
Korean judoka remind me of the Mongolian ones, some thicc warriors.
But more flexible kumi kata
Japanese-self defense
Korean-competition
A di đà phật... 🙇🙇🙇🙇🙏🙏🙏🙏
This is a good martial art and highly practical in street fight, but..... practical outfit please? They need some modification
Chadi, how would you rate the newaza skills of the Koreans? There's a famous story from Chuck Norris about when he first met the Gracies while on vacation in Brazil he thought because he was a judo black belt he thought he could hold his own against them and was wrong. Norris' first art was judo, which he learned while stationed in South Korea in the late 1950s and early 60s. He achieved his brown belt and later received his black belt from Gene LeBell.
Now, I know that not every school is going to focus on the same thing. Japan is a good example of that. Most focus on the Kodokan rule set, while the legendary Kosen schools focus on newaza and I'm sure South Korea is the same way. Are there any well known Korean newaza experts?
As fare as Korean newaza specialists go, Hwang Hee Tae is the only one I can think of.
Kim Jae Bum had great newaza but he wasn't really a newaza "specialist", Kim was great in all aspects of his judo.
Hwang was a newaza expert for sure
Honestly there should also be cover of Georgian and Mongolian Judo. If the japanese send their team to cross-train in Georgia or Mongolia, I think they would be invincible. Don't like France Judo, seem overly technical.
Old korean judokas were very similar to Mongolian judo physically strong. Japanese judo is more tricky and skills.
Been watching the Paris Olympic "judo", whichever, too bad what the Judo has become.
Yay! Next do Israeli judo plz
Paltchik, Muki and Yarden are beasts
@@Chadi nice ppl too, know them from Wingate.
Yes, please. Israeli judo deserves more attention. Starting from Barcelona 92 Israieli judo performing on a high level.
Seems that Paltchik traces his roots from Russia, Belarus, Ukraine. Very Slavonic surname, seems that his family came to Israil from one of this countries. His surname translates as a "finger".
@@karlievbayram811 i think he is ukrainian... i used to be able to tell apart accents in russian..
..."and I think it's a bit unethical" what is the underlying goal to the game... like why play? Oh yeah that's right, because it's a martial art... you know an art that is oh idk... MARTIAL in nature... um if playing hard to get is against the rules, than that rule should be there to protect the players, not because ethics. Just my take on it. I just see rules like this as dividing the sports and self-defense camps even further. Do you want to fracture your art? Is it an appropriate time to drive that wedge? The martial arts based in Jiujitsu (Jiujitsu, Judo, Aikido, Brazilian jiu-jitsu, etc) are a product of Jiujitsu being fractured. It wasn't necessarily a bad thing. So maybe it's time for combat judo and sports judo to part ways, maybe it's not. I know one thing for sure. I'm not the guy with the answer to that.
You're preventing someone from attacking and you yourself are not attacking, that's stalling and causing penalties, that's no way to win, the goal is to show superior techniques, they didn't in wars by shidos they won with technical superiority.
@@Chadi Okay, so than the rule is there to keep the bout more accurate to how it would be if it where an actual fight, as it forces you to only stall momentarily, else there's consequence, as there would be in a fight where your opponent isn't restricted to solely Judo techniques, and thus you'd only get away with playing keep-away with your hands/wrists for a few seconds at best before your opponent would come up with something to change that or take advantage of it.
Is this closer to your understanding?
(Sorry my writing is atrocious, especially sentence structure and punctuation. I tend to simply dictate my internal monologue, and I speak in long chains of run-on sentences. I see the fluidity and flow of language, and struggle to see discreet separate concepts... if a sentence is a complete thought, than to me... life is one sentence. It's all interconnected... anyways sorry if it's annoying, at least now you can kinda understand why.)
But Japanese still the best Judokas in the world
Their style is amazing
JAPANESE :JUDO
KOREAN:LOOKS LIKE JUDO
Every judo practioner over the age of 50, male or female suffer from a malady of painful ramifications. Enjoy this strength while you are young...you will feel it when you are older.
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This guy would object to that
why do people make grappling more complicated. how bout two guys in shirt and shorts wrestle until one person taps out. saved you hundreds of hours
I wish it was that simple
why not? seems fun :)
There us actually Two Korean judo. One is Kodokan judo the other was really a spin off known as "Yudo" (with a "Y"). I don't know if they have merge together now. Before they were seperate arts.
(Note: Of course many Korean Yudo practitioner would claim Yudo is a traditional Korean art and has no roots in Japanese judo.)
Yudo is Judo, with two differences.
1) Yudo adds one throw from traditional Korean wrestling.
2) Yudo focuses more on the original self defense philosophy, before Judo was sportified.
I was stationed in Korea for two years, waaaay back in the 90's. I don't know if it's changed, but back then Yudo practicioners were banned from Judo competition.
Yudo is just the korean way of saying judo
@@young5005 yes, that's the Korean pronunciation. Just do a little research though, and you'll find that a distinction has been made over the years, mostly due to IJF/IOC sporting rule sets.
@@deangullberry5148 Interesting, could you give me some examples? I'd love to know
@@young5005 Yudo still includes the strikes that Kano included in Judo. A Judoka wouldn't rely on them as fight stoppers, but would use them to set up a throw. Most Yudo Dojangs, at least in Korea (very very rare anywhere else), also still teach the leg locks that have been banned from Judo competition.
Someone who's trained in Yudo can spot it in a second, to a judo guy, or spectator, it can look like the Yudo practitioner is "busy" to down right cheating.
Korea stop copying Japan martials arts isnt funny anymore
Sumo- ssireum
Karate- tang soo do/tkd
Aikido/akijutsu- hapkido/hankido
Kendo-kumdo
Comba ju jutsu- gongkwan yusul
Shidokan- yungmoodo
@Aston Price-Lockhart yes but Japanese make them work they dont just change the name
Iaido/Battodo - Haedong Gumdo
@@jtilton5 yes i forgot that sorry
@EdHer - KARATE & MARTIAL ARTS literally they rebrand karate (shotokan)
Ssireum is older than sumo, kumdo is how you pronounce kendo in Korean, and hapkido is from jujitsu.
Get your facts right. This is embarassing.