@@FlyAwayChiit wasn’t bro expansion era in the 90s magics bulls knicks and up and coming pacers were the only good eastern teams at that time not great but good outside the bulls only the magic could compete with the bulls
@@Guccimane0713 This is exactly why you young mfs need to stay out of basketball debates,.. yall just get on here and say anything yall hear somebody else say and dont know the game at all...The expansion teams that came in the league in 1988 and 1989 (Miami Heat, Orlando Magic, and Charlotte Hornets) ALL became good teams and championship contenders in the 90s....therefore making the competition in the NBA much stronger not weaker, this is common sense...And in 95 only two expansion teams were added, which means nothing..Yall need to stop
Stop it Lebron at 6’9 260 lbs in the 80s and 90’s playing the way he played in his prime being the smartest strongest fastest man on the court he would’ve had 8-9 Rings bruh y’all need to stop the comparison at this point
You know what makes it so impressive? He comes back from taking two years off to go play baseball and does it. Jordan doesn't take those two years off, he wins eight straight consecutive finals.
Jordan's the goat for multiple reasons, but the single most important reason is because when all 6 times when it mattered the most and the championship was on the line, he won and NEVER lost. LeBron on the other hand lost 6 times when everything was on the line.
He never won in the 80's against real competition. He never won a single game vs the Celtics in the playoffs. None of his championships were against other champions at their peak. Jordan fans are JordanSexuals
@@SodaPopinksi Those guys are only hall of famers because they played before the players now. Its a shame that some players are in the HOF. But old people are stupid praising tackle basketball
Comment again when you actually have a real rebuttal other than "we all know Lebrons the GOAT" gotta love salty triggered butthurt lebron fans lmfao. @@BAClipz204
Anyone who actually watched both play thinks this "debate" is silly. Bron is awesome, he isn't in the same galaxy as Jordan. Frankly if it is a question of one game, I'd take Kobe over James.
@@DynoGreen313 1 series? Have you seen what just take afro Kobe did to the league in the Playoffs in 01 🧐 Or what he did 08-10 🤔 LeBron is such a media player with ALL time marketing hype that fans are prisoners of modern time. It's like y'all got Alzheimer's 😭
@@hooligan5381the Spurs and Rockets most likely would have if it wasn’t for injuries to Kawhi Leonard and Chris Paul. People forget the Spurs were up by 22 in Game 1 and the Rockets had a 3-2 series lead prior to those injuries
You know how satisfying it must be for Jordan to know that his icon is on the same team that beat him up in the playoffs all those late 80s season?!?!😂
I agree just for the simple fact after years in the league Jordan won 3 straight left for two years then won 3 straight then left again. Like he literally got tired of winning
We had so many teams that left over the years. The Rams and Cardinals both should still be there. Along with the Hawks as well. There's a couple more that I'm forgetting.
MJ in 13 years with Bulls: 10 scoring titles 9 all defensive awards Defensive player of the year 200+ steals 100+ blocks twice (only player) Led league in steals 3 seasons 6-0 finals record 6 finals mvp (most ever). ---only other player to win it 3 times consecutively is Shaq 5 mvp 626 games (9 year streak) without losing 3 in a row Only player to get MVP, championship, Finals mvp, Scoring title, and All defensive award in a season. He also did it 4 times. Still leader in PER and win shares with VORP per game Leads in all time buzzer beater clutch shots in history while being 50% clutch shooter Only player to lead the most top 10 lowest scoring supporting cast to titles Played against 50+win opponents in post season 73% of the time. All the while having only 1 all star. Lebron in 21 years: 1 scoring title Most points scored ever 6 all defensive awards 0 defensive player of the year 4-6 finals record (losing record) 4 finals mvp 4 mvp leads in turnovers 2nd leader in most missed layups 2nd leader in most missed shots 20% clutch shooter Played against 50+ win opponents in post season 53% of the time All the while having all star supporting cast: Dwayne Wade, Chris Bosh, Ray Allen, Kyrie Irving, Kevin Love, and Anthony Davis. Who is the GOAT?
I ain’t no youngin. Been watching since 88.. BRON THE GOAT!! IT WAS JORDAN WHO CRIED TO DAVID STEARN. ALL OF A SUDDEN THERES NO HAND CHECKING.. You a CASUAL
My god. It’s a ritual in these Aries Spears features on Vlad to talk about Michael Jordan, and to a lesser extent Jordan v.s. James. Always entertaining, but damn.
LeBron had to switch to 3 teams to get 4 rings. Jordan and Kobe stayed with the same team and still got more. No comparison, 90s Basketball teams were playing in the golden Era of the game LeBron: 4 Kobe: 5 Michael: 6
@iamlegend5190 I remember when he played with the Wizards.. You're right thou.. He didn't win $#!+ that's why I didn't mention it. He still got 6 with the bulls. He got all his rings with the same team.
Lmao yall run with the same broken record that keep skipping bringing up the same scenarios, Bron on a different echelon he is the dynasty of win some lose some, Mike given all praises but couldn't win without Pip and Phil/Tex Winter triangle offense and Kobe is a carbon copy who don't get his just due for trying to emulate MJ but he only have two finals MVPs and gtfoh why Mike ain't win without from 84-91 bunch a d riders especially this nerd looking ass dude foh 🤡
@@mutechannel13 YOU SAID...."Jordan and Kobe stayed with same team and got more." So that was a flat out lie! That's exactly what i man when i say Mj fans make up false narratives and believe them!
@@dequareioberry7658they will ignore these facts. The second you compare the teams bron played in the finals you'll see why lebron's competition is harder. Anybody that disagrees is a Jordan dick rider because it's as clear as day. There's no debate here.
@@dequareioberry7658What does that even mean?I don't even get your statement..Gaurd all 5 positions on a superteam. WTF are you talking about lebron don't play defense
I disagree and here's why: I totally get the notion that Jordan and Bryant were better than James by the "eye test". Yes, Jordan and Bryant were doper -- meaning they had smoother, cooler moves and seemed to have more of a ferocious attitude. But I think if we look at the full careers objectively, James is the greatest player ever. LeBron is like Magic Johnson and Karl Malone combined. His combination of physicality, passing, rebounding, shot blocking, steals, creating opportunities for teammates and scoring both inside and outside -- unmatched. He is the most complete basketball player of all time. NO other player has been as successful in the playoffs as consistently, no matter who they played with, who they played for, and what system they played in. NO other player has led three different franchises to championships. During the peak of his career, it was simply expected that he would lead whoever he was with the Finals. Eight years in a row. Look at it this way -- LeBron is #1 all-time in playoff wins, points, assists and steals! Think about what that means -- He has MORE PLAYOFF ASSISTS than ALL of the greatest point guards -- Magic, Isaiah, Stockton, Payton, Kidd, Nash, etc. IN ADDITION to being the #1 post-season scorer of all time, AND #1 all-time in playoff steals?! The same dude! That's fucking crazy! LeBron is the GOAT.
These fools don't realize how silly they sound. They're talking about the GOAT at the same time they're laughing about their lack of knowledge about the history of the game. SMH.
Interesting he said 91-98. What about 84, 85, 86, 87, 88, 89, 90, 01, 02? Can't say he wasn't at his prime, cause by 88 he was the hands down best player in the league, ie he was his first mvp then.
nobody wants to admit it was the number one seed, 67 win Celtics with the number 2 offense and the number 3 defense in the league vs the 38 win number 8 seed Bulls team the year Jordan only played 18 games due to a broken foot. how many times have an 8 seed beaten the number 1 team in the nba? not ever.
Scottie Almost won a ring twice without Jordan. Jordan never came close without Scottie. Of course Jordan is a way better player but that doesn't mean you could just put him anywhere and he wins.
You don’t have a concept of greatness. Probably never been a winner either, clearly why you can’t fathom him winning elsewhere. Pretty much a losers viewpoint 😂
" Almost "??? loosing in the conference semis in game 7 is "Almost"?? Seriously???? the other time your referring to pippen when he played for portland?? he was a role player at that time already... but like a typical bronsexual you will make it seem like pip averaged 25 points a game when he played for the blazers
@@jt2458hhI mean he went to another team and despite him putting up 30 they was absolutely shit cuz the game plan whenever he’s not surrounded by Hofers is give jordan the ball I’m sure that’s great if you wanna sell out seats but they isn’t conducive to chips his time before and after Scottie made that very clear
@@beery6659Scottie did come close in 2000; he was 1 "Kobe to Shaq" alley-oop away from getting back to the finals that year. And imo, the Blazers would have beaten the Pacers if they got past the Lakers.
The eastern conference was trash when LBJ took those teams to the finals. That was a JV conference. Jordan could have done that in his sleep. Jordan scored 69 against that all time great Celtic team in their prime.... in a playoff game on the road...not 63. These guys today are dropping 70 points against lottery teams, easier defensive rules, and against kids that should still be in high school and thinking they're as good as Jordan. SMH
He didn't win until he had a top 50 player. My point, u added Lebron into the Convo as a MJ fan would do, that's a excuse. Lebron took a team worse than any team MJ had to the finals in 07 in his fourth year; was he not dominant?
who forgot his first 7 yrs? you bronsexuals ALWAYS say this and literally NO ONE forgets his STELLAR first 7 seasons...so why do you 🤡s keep saying this?
@@MaxTaylor-yx8bi just means that jordan would have taken the same team and maybe won; definitely would NOT have been swept as lebron was also GETTING to the final means nothing--- in other words if lebron had been in the other conference he would never have gotten to that final and "no" losing in the final is not 'dominant'
@@DynoGreen313 again u proving my point. Why didn't Jordan do that in his first six years. And please bring facts, not hypotheticals and your feelings. No could've, would've, should'ves
The super fans of Lebron like Nick from that sports channel say a lot of people ate on MJs watch. But when he names the guys who ate he only names guys who won championships before MJ even came into the league like Magic(80,82), Bird(81,84), Dr. J and Malone(83). Then once he came into the league those teams were dynasty’s and the bull weren’t even close. The only team that ate was the pistons and they were having deep playoffs run since 87 so of course they. Just because MJs the goat doesn’t mean he was going to win championships during that time. I don’t care if it’s Wilt, Bill, Shaq, Kobe, or Lebron no one was going to win a championship in their first few years against teams that had already been winning consistently.
Bruh Aires doesn’t understand Mike only scores he doesn’t know how to facilitate and make the whole team deadly like Lebron could/ hence why he couldn’t make it out the first round
People ate on Jordan’s watch too. All these jordan fans need to stop acting like jordan only played 6 years when he played 15. Those other 9 years other people were winning championships while he was getting bounced out in the first and second round or not making the playoffs at all. Bron has 6 finals losses and 4 of them are from the same team.
The point is is that when Jordan was WINNING nobody else ate. He dominated the 90s and that’s a fact. We knew Jordan was losing at first and it wasn’t his time but when his time came he owned the NBA
I don't really watch to much with this guy but happened to see this. Most Jordan fans are something. They can make all the arguments for why Jordan is superior to Lebron but when you make a counter argument you're a "BronSexual"; yet they don't see themselves as the equivalent for Jordan? Think about it. They were talking about Jordan and Pippen. Lebron wasn't mentioned and he brings him up then cuts at anybody who thinks Lebron is the best. That's the m.o. of most Jordan fans. They call you some delusional fanatic for feeling someone else is better than Jordan. But if you think about it; whose really the delusional fanatic? Is it someone who feels a player is an all-time great but just happens to feel someone else is the greatest; or someone who feels anyone who picks a person other than their pick is delusional?
I am old enough to watch Jordan and Lebron in their primes. There is no comparison Jordan was clearly better. The thing you keep leaving out is most of Lebron's fans never even saw Jordan play when it was happening. Jordan fans can actually compare both because they saw them both play. Lebron fans don't have the complete picture. Not to mention Lebron's final records is a disgrace.
@@H0VAI'm old enough to have watched Jordan in the 80's. The highlight of the 80's for Jordan was barely beating the Cavs in the first round on a buzzer beater to win the series. In the NCAA championship, Worthy was the MOP, not Jordan. Jordan put up numbers but that's it. He never beat the other great teams. His finals victories were against Utah, Seattle, Portland, Phoenix, and a post-Showtime Lakers team. None of those teams had won a championship.
Most underrated player of all time is David Robinson 2 chips,mvp,10x all star,4 time 1st team all nba when shaq and olajuwon were dominating, dpoy,4x all defense 1st team,scoring title,led the league in rebounding, led the league in blocks, career averages of 21ppg 10rpg and 3bpg,71pt game etc this dude is definitely top 25 of all time
He’s a great player but won a chip thanks to Duncan in a lockout shortened season and in the twilight of his career in ‘03 behind the big spurs 3, other than that he wasn’t making much tidal waves in the league
@@ef3602 🧢 so by that logic Barkley and malone didnt make waves either? B4 duncan when did the spurs have a good enough team to win the chip? You gotta make it make sense
East was top heavy in the 80’s, the bulls were making the playoffs with losing records. Idk how a 30 win team makes the playoffs. East was trash in the 80’s
Thank you Aries. That's the point I always said. Bulls replaced every player except pippin and still won. He just need that type of player with that skill set. Had Paxson, hodges, Armstrong, Kerr. Still got it done....catch and shoot type guard. Big men who can rebound and give him second chance points and hit free throws. Cause all those centers was trash. So why don't believe you take Pippen off that team and give him Wilkens or a Worthy, or Drexler, Mitch Richmond. They might not possess All of Pippens defense. But where they lack they was extremely more offensive gifted.
Lmao at “choked” 😂😂😂 Where do yall get this BS from smh should be a age requirement for a lot of these topics because I know damn well yall didn’t witness MJ playing in real time
One more ...even though MJ is widely considered the best...MJ and the Bulls competed in the playoffs in 95 and lost to the Magic, therefore Olajuwon" did eat" on MJ' s watch.
Nigga please Jordan came back late as hell in the middle of that season wit #45 still in baseball shape fatigue as hell. And still made it deep in the playoffs. Turned around and swept that same Orlando team in the conference finals the next year. Where was the trailblazers when Jordan lit Clyde Drexler ass up with all them 3’s????
@@Wh4L205Listen..if MJ and the Bulls had won the title that year after him only playing in 20 games ...fans would STILL be talking about it. MJ can't compete for a title and lose and then we all act like it didn't happen..hey back in 2010 LBJ and the Cavs lost to the Celts and he melted..we find out later that Delonte was messing with his mother..It probably affected him..yet NOBODY gives LBJ any excuses about his performance that year. So again Olajuwon and the Rockets won a title in a year where MJ played AFTER he won titles.
@@nangaeboko6710 Why bring up Olajuwon when they not the ones who put the bulls out that year???? Have you forgot they won the year jordan was completely out??? You make no points bringing that. I don’t make excuses for Jordan. It’s just that when we speak facts you niggaz always think we making excuses. You and I both know if jordan didn’t retire that 91-93 bulls team would’ve smoked the rockets 🚀 💨 o
MJ is a tough guy to get along with. I lost so much respect when he gave a speech about Kobe crying when he actual former best friend Charles Barkley was standing a few feet away and Jordan refused to shake his hand. All because Charles said Jordan has to hire better people in the Hornets organization.
I don't put Bron over Jordan but Bron had to deal with more competition Bad coaches and way worse team mates. Bron took 3 horrible teams to the finals and won 1.
What are u talking about lebron had a stacked Miami team and a legit duo with prime Kyrie. Stop smoking crack lebron had the weakest competition in the east compared to the west.
ACTUALLY Jordan had tougher competition in the playoffs than LeBron ever did. Although LeBron had better competition in the finals but you also have to factor in that LeBron has almost always had better teammates than Jordan ever did. He had AD, Dwade, Chris Bosh, Kyrie Irving.
@@23raid Jordan has never faced a team as good as those 2017-2018 warriors teams and you know that knock it off as much as I agree Jordan is GOAT Lebron has faced better competition. Jordan has barely faced a player as good as Tim Duncan in the finals AIDS Magic Johnson & Karl Malone were great but Duncan was a problem
@@hooligan5381 I never said he did, I said Jordan faced tougher competition in the playoffs not the finals. You can actually look this up the statistics would support that. LeBron faced tougher competition in the finals but he also had a strong team himself to offset the tough competition he faced in the finals. Except for 2017-2018 Warriors.
@@tys1646 what tf does that have to do with winning championships ..not to mention when Kareem had the scoring title and more titles but nobody gave af…now LeBron has it with less titles and it’s supposed to mean what exactly..it’s nothing more than a longevity stat.
@@CensorTube84 Kareem is my favorite player so idk what your talking about and mj has 6 and it’s people with more rings than mj but who has more points than lebron…….. nobody and y’all claim mj was the best scorer
If feel the same way as Aries stop comparing LeBron to M.J. LeBron ain't even better than kobe I mean LeBron good not taking anything away but he not as Legendary as MJ the Goat or kobe I mean let's talk about it 💯
One thing about these Jordan STANS is they’ll bring up Bron out of nowhere, and compare to Jordan, for no reason. LeBron wasn’t even in the conversation topic. At all.
You know why?? Because Bron stans do the same. You didn't notice that huh! By the way, why wouldn't they bring up the modern media's creation to try and bump Jordan off the number 1 spot. We are all still laughing at Rich Paul's social media take.
Neither of these two goofballs know ball. Shitting on pippen. Pippen was the kawhi Leonard of the 90s. A first team all nba and first team all defensive player. The East was a monster in the 80s but it wasn’t in the 90s.
@@brandenrobinson-ib5zpare you r*******? Magic, Zeke, Bird all won when Jordan was a pup. Oh and they all had multiple HOFs on the roster besides them. Hakeem won when Jordan was playing baseball. Kobe, Shaq and Duncan all won AFTER he retired again and came back to play with a fookin EXPANSION TEAM 😂
I agree with Aries on the Jordan thing. The East was ROUGH back in the day.
No it wasn't
@@giotorres8669 Yes it was..
@@FlyAwayChiit wasn’t bro expansion era in the 90s magics bulls knicks and up and coming pacers were the only good eastern teams at that time not great but good outside the bulls only the magic could compete with the bulls
@@Guccimane0713 This is exactly why you young mfs need to stay out of basketball debates,.. yall just get on here and say anything yall hear somebody else say and dont know the game at all...The expansion teams that came in the league in 1988 and 1989 (Miami Heat, Orlando Magic, and Charlotte Hornets) ALL became good teams and championship contenders in the 90s....therefore making the competition in the NBA much stronger not weaker, this is common sense...And in 95 only two expansion teams were added, which means nothing..Yall need to stop
Stop it Lebron at 6’9 260 lbs in the 80s and 90’s playing the way he played in his prime being the smartest strongest fastest man on the court he would’ve had 8-9 Rings bruh y’all need to stop the comparison at this point
For me Jordan 3 peated twice, do you understand how hard it is to do it once, "Lebron never did it with super teams", Jordan did it twice
You know what makes it so impressive? He comes back from taking two years off to go play baseball and does it. Jordan doesn't take those two years off, he wins eight straight consecutive finals.
@thesentinelsfootballchanne3212 I agree and it wouldn't even be a conversation to begin with if he won 8 straight
LeBron choked in the 2011 NBA finals. I don't remember Jordan ever choking in any playoff or final's series.
Yeah cause when he underperformed y’all called it the grind
How about all the times he didn't make it to the finals
@@cj2cool552you literally made that up and used it as a rebuttal.
Prime Jordan has been benched in the 4th qtr because he was hurting the team more than helping…
Facts
@4:21 “Mike put the WOOOF in that muhf*#%!$!” 🐕 😆 love those sound effects
😅
That's funny as hell!
Jordan's the goat for multiple reasons, but the single most important reason is because when all 6 times when it mattered the most and the championship was on the line, he won and NEVER lost. LeBron on the other hand lost 6 times when everything was on the line.
He never won in the 80's against real competition. He never won a single game vs the Celtics in the playoffs. None of his championships were against other champions at their peak. Jordan fans are JordanSexuals
HE PLAYED NOONE IN THE FINALS....
every team lebron lost to would beat the teams jordan played against.
@@jefeseason4990 I understand your excuses for LeBron losing 6 times when it all matters and Jordan beating teams each with multiple hofers on them.
@@SodaPopinksi Those guys are only hall of famers because they played before the players now. Its a shame that some players are in the HOF. But old people are stupid praising tackle basketball
bron nut taster strikes again@@jefeseason4990
Geez.... the Eastern Conference WAS a monster back in the 90's
He bodied that debate 😂
With common fuckin sense… Bronsexuals argue with zero logic…
What debate, we all know Lebrons the GOAT.
You’re an idiot
@@BAClipz204your feelings hurt its ok heres a tissue
Comment again when you actually have a real rebuttal other than "we all know Lebrons the GOAT" gotta love salty triggered butthurt lebron fans lmfao. @@BAClipz204
Anyone who actually watched both play thinks this "debate" is silly. Bron is awesome, he isn't in the same galaxy as Jordan. Frankly if it is a question of one game, I'd take Kobe over James.
Game of one on one is stupid because pre-achilles durant is cooking all three of them but he isn't even top 10 best of all time.
me too
kobe over bron for ONE SERIES even
you are correct, it was never a conversation for me
So you saying if Bron teams played Mj teams it wouldn’t be close?
@@DynoGreen313
1 series?
Have you seen what just take afro Kobe did to the league in the Playoffs in 01 🧐
Or what he did 08-10 🤔
LeBron is such a media player with ALL time marketing hype that fans are prisoners of modern time.
It's like y'all got Alzheimer's 😭
The barking had me dead 😂 but it’s facts lol
I almost cried in laughter when he said Dominique Wilkins had the box top curl 😂😂😂.
"Was niggas playing in the NBA then?" Vlad says "IDK". 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
🗣 “He (Jordan) allowed them to eat!….. Bravo 👏 Mr. Aries Spears.”
Jordan gave them two seasons and said get filled up! 😂 Then Hakeem stole the plate!
Jordan didn’t eat in the 80s
@user-qd6im2hp2e and Lebron didn't eat in the 2000's.
This man makes a lot of sense 🤷🏿♂️
not exactly even tho I agree Jordan is the GOAT those 2017-2018 warriors no one was beating them not even Jordan in his prime
@@hooligan5381you don't know that sir
@@hooligan5381 You've taken too many puffs, pass it along!
96 beats them
@@hooligan5381
@@hooligan5381the Spurs and Rockets most likely would have if it wasn’t for injuries to Kawhi Leonard and Chris Paul. People forget the Spurs were up by 22 in Game 1 and the Rockets had a 3-2 series lead prior to those injuries
Jordan has his logo on the Pistons jersey that alone is epic
You know how satisfying it must be for Jordan to know that his icon is on the same team that beat him up in the playoffs all those late 80s season?!?!😂
Those wolfs howls and dog barks are too much! 😂
I agree just for the simple fact after years in the league Jordan won 3 straight left for two years then won 3 straight then left again. Like he literally got tired of winning
The more videos I watch on this guy, the more I like him. 😂
He had me at coke infested
MJ said that all his teammates did on that early 80s bulls squad was snort coke 😂😂
St. Louis Hawks back in the day
StL
We had so many teams that left over the years. The Rams and Cardinals both should still be there. Along with the Hawks as well. There's a couple more that I'm forgetting.
Aries described it perfectly these dudes out here need to get Lebron nuts out they mouth 😂
The same way u got Jordan’s nuts in yo mouth. These niggas don’t know none of y’all
What did Jordan do in the 80s ?
why cant these old niggas get jordan out there mouths? and off there feet
And you need to get Jordan nuts out of your mouth
@@M360-w6o your mother
Don’t forget the Magic with penny & Shaq! 😮💨😮💨🔥
Lmao those guys got sweeped when Mike was in basketball shape the following year you retarded 🤡
guildline on how to get the old & new generation beefing
💯 on arie but daaamn, jordan debate sure do get on Aries skin. Lol😂😂😂😂
I've seen several posts....Aries be goin' IN 😅😅
1:06 dribbling like they were using a salt shaker😂😂
I remember when he had the club Dominique in Atlanta it was the spot in the early 90s
Every word he said is 1000% correct!!
Before Atlanta.. they were the St Louis Hawks.
Aries spoke facts upon facts, upon facts!!💯💯🎯🎯🎯
MJ in 13 years with Bulls:
10 scoring titles
9 all defensive awards
Defensive player of the year
200+ steals 100+ blocks twice (only player)
Led league in steals 3 seasons
6-0 finals record
6 finals mvp (most ever). ---only other player to win it 3 times consecutively is Shaq
5 mvp
626 games (9 year streak) without losing 3 in a row
Only player to get MVP, championship, Finals mvp, Scoring title, and All defensive award in a season. He also did it 4 times.
Still leader in PER and win shares with VORP per game
Leads in all time buzzer beater clutch shots in history while being 50% clutch shooter
Only player to lead the most top 10 lowest scoring supporting cast to titles
Played against 50+win opponents in post season 73% of the time.
All the while having only 1 all star.
Lebron in 21 years:
1 scoring title
Most points scored ever
6 all defensive awards
0 defensive player of the year
4-6 finals record (losing record)
4 finals mvp
4 mvp
leads in turnovers
2nd leader in most missed layups
2nd leader in most missed shots
20% clutch shooter
Played against 50+ win opponents in post season 53% of the time
All the while having all star supporting cast: Dwayne Wade, Chris Bosh, Ray Allen, Kyrie Irving, Kevin Love, and Anthony Davis.
Who is the GOAT?
Only Youngin's talk that "LeBron is Goat" shish.. If you remember the 90s You know the truth..
I ain’t no youngin. Been watching since 88.. BRON THE GOAT!! IT WAS JORDAN WHO CRIED TO DAVID STEARN. ALL OF A SUDDEN THERES NO HAND CHECKING.. You a CASUAL
@@Carti2officialBlasphemy and I was born in 84…. Mj The Goat Bro, Stop
@@mase0924he not
I’m 38 and I feel like LBJ is the GOAT
@@mase0924 Born in 84 too.. difference is I actually know basketball. You jus a casual
My god. It’s a ritual in these Aries Spears features on Vlad to talk about Michael Jordan, and to a lesser extent Jordan v.s. James. Always entertaining, but damn.
Lol but you gotta love it
LeBron had to switch to 3 teams to get 4 rings. Jordan and Kobe stayed with the same team and still got more. No comparison, 90s Basketball teams were playing in the golden Era of the game
LeBron: 4
Kobe: 5
Michael: 6
Funny how ppl forget MJ played for wizards and didn't win shit!!!
You and the 10 ppl who liked this comment obviously don't watch basketball.
@iamlegend5190 I remember when he played with the Wizards.. You're right thou.. He didn't win $#!+ that's why I didn't mention it. He still got 6 with the bulls. He got all his rings with the same team.
Lmao yall run with the same broken record that keep skipping bringing up the same scenarios, Bron on a different echelon he is the dynasty of win some lose some, Mike given all praises but couldn't win without Pip and Phil/Tex Winter triangle offense and Kobe is a carbon copy who don't get his just due for trying to emulate MJ but he only have two finals MVPs and gtfoh why Mike ain't win without from 84-91 bunch a d riders especially this nerd looking ass dude foh 🤡
@@mutechannel13so
@@mutechannel13 YOU SAID...."Jordan and Kobe stayed with same team and got more."
So that was a flat out lie! That's exactly what i man when i say Mj fans make up false narratives and believe them!
Giannis and Kobe the only two super stars who won without another super star
That's a lie Kobe had to get Pau Gasol to help him win his next 2 cause in 2008 Kobe lost in the finals
Yo they act like Bron got drafted in 91 and played until 98 🤣 the audacity to speak so strongly like they played in the same era is what kills me.
Mike never played against super teams who he had to guard all 5 positions
@@dequareioberry7658 all Michael has to do is take it personal and it's a wrap
@@dequareioberry7658they will ignore these facts. The second you compare the teams bron played in the finals you'll see why lebron's competition is harder. Anybody that disagrees is a Jordan dick rider because it's as clear as day. There's no debate here.
@@dequareioberry7658What does that even mean?I don't even get your statement..Gaurd all 5 positions on a superteam. WTF are you talking about lebron don't play defense
@@tryingtochangemyways5074 now he don’t earlier in his career he did play defense gang
The human highlight... Dominique Wilkins 😁 but MJ his airness is something else
Jordan hit 2 game winners in the Finals. Lebron hasn't and never will.
I disagree and here's why:
I totally get the notion that Jordan and Bryant were better than James by the "eye test". Yes, Jordan and Bryant were doper -- meaning they had smoother, cooler moves and seemed to have more of a ferocious attitude. But I think if we look at the full careers objectively, James is the greatest player ever. LeBron is like Magic Johnson and Karl Malone combined. His combination of physicality, passing, rebounding, shot blocking, steals, creating opportunities for teammates and scoring both inside and outside -- unmatched. He is the most complete basketball player of all time.
NO other player has been as successful in the playoffs as consistently, no matter who they played with, who they played for, and what system they played in. NO other player has led three different franchises to championships.
During the peak of his career, it was simply expected that he would lead whoever he was with the Finals. Eight years in a row.
Look at it this way -- LeBron is #1 all-time in playoff wins, points, assists and steals! Think about what that means -- He has MORE PLAYOFF ASSISTS than ALL of the greatest point guards -- Magic, Isaiah, Stockton, Payton, Kidd, Nash, etc. IN ADDITION to being the #1 post-season scorer of all time, AND #1 all-time in playoff steals?! The same dude! That's fucking crazy! LeBron is the GOAT.
SAME DEBATE OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER.
I totally agree with you Spears 💯
His d riding goofy a ain't got no point, Mike ain't eat when the Celtics, Pistons or Lakers 🤦🤡🥱👊👊
Dominique and Clyde the Glide are both underrated due to matching up directly to MJ.
They would both be all stars in todays league.
The late Orlando Woolridge was at least one good player on the Bulls in the 80’s that Jordan played with.
Wait, Woolridge passed?
Yes :( I didn’t even know Woolridge was on the Bulls until I saw RUclips highlights. I remember him on the Lakers. He was good.
How many games/seasons did he play with Jordan?
I (former Knicks fan) stopped watching NBA hoop in 2003 but goddamn do I love hearing Aries talk basketball. This was a history lesson.
Dave Cowens is the MOST underrated play ever!
Haha that’s way too long ago for most people.
facts I had to watch games and highlights he was cold in a weird way lol
Dave had game fa sho. I think Rick Barry and Alex English are super underrated
You can make a long Christmas List of underrated players.
These fools don't realize how silly they sound. They're talking about the GOAT at the same time they're laughing about their lack of knowledge about the history of the game. SMH.
Interesting he said 91-98. What about 84, 85, 86, 87, 88, 89, 90, 01, 02? Can't say he wasn't at his prime, cause by 88 he was the hands down best player in the league, ie he was his first mvp then.
He didn’t have a great team those years
But Jordan never crashed & burned like Bron did in 2011 win or lose mj always was the alpha...Bron let Jason terry intimidate him in 2011/12...smh.
@@richardsanders3750 Jordan retired twice so he crashed and burned to a crisp and got thrown in the trash
Jason Terry that is all
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Exactly. He won when he had the beat team. Yall never give them credit
nobody wants to admit it was the number one seed, 67 win Celtics with the number 2 offense and the number 3 defense in the league vs the 38 win number 8 seed Bulls team the year Jordan only played 18 games due to a broken foot. how many times have an 8 seed beaten the number 1 team in the nba? not ever.
Scottie Almost won a ring twice without Jordan. Jordan never came close without Scottie.
Of course Jordan is a way better player but that doesn't mean you could just put him anywhere and he wins.
You don’t have a concept of greatness. Probably never been a winner either, clearly why you can’t fathom him winning elsewhere. Pretty much a losers viewpoint 😂
" Almost "??? loosing in the conference semis in game 7 is "Almost"?? Seriously???? the other time your referring to pippen when he played for portland?? he was a role player at that time already... but like a typical bronsexual you will make it seem like pip averaged 25 points a game when he played for the blazers
@@jt2458hhI mean he went to another team and despite him putting up 30 they was absolutely shit cuz the game plan whenever he’s not surrounded by Hofers is give jordan the ball I’m sure that’s great if you wanna sell out seats but they isn’t conducive to chips his time before and after Scottie made that very clear
@@beery6659Scottie did come close in 2000; he was 1 "Kobe to Shaq" alley-oop away from getting back to the finals that year. And imo, the Blazers would have beaten the Pacers if they got past the Lakers.
Just like the song 🎶 by Brandy:
“Almost doesn’t count”…
Stop reaching dude..
You’ll hurt yourself…
When you learn how much politics and commercialism are involved in sports, you realize how pointless this goat debate actually is
You can't compare like they played against the same opponents
Stop crying. LeBron couldn't play with them real men
Well Atlanta technically didnt win a championship, it was St Louis.
No lies spoken lmao
The eastern conference was trash when LBJ took those teams to the finals. That was a JV conference. Jordan could have done that in his sleep. Jordan scored 69 against that all time great Celtic team in their prime.... in a playoff game on the road...not 63. These guys today are dropping 70 points against lottery teams, easier defensive rules, and against kids that should still be in high school and thinking they're as good as Jordan. SMH
Funny how mfs forget Jordans 1st 7 years like he wasn't playing getting his ass busted. But watch the excuses come pouring in
He didn't win until he had a top 50 player. My point, u added Lebron into the Convo as a MJ fan would do, that's a excuse. Lebron took a team worse than any team MJ had to the finals in 07 in his fourth year; was he not dominant?
who forgot his first 7 yrs? you bronsexuals ALWAYS say this and literally NO ONE forgets his STELLAR first 7 seasons...so why do you 🤡s keep saying this?
@@MaxTaylor-yx8bi just means that jordan would have taken the same team and maybe won; definitely would NOT have been swept as lebron was
also GETTING to the final means nothing--- in other words if lebron had been in the other conference he would never have gotten to that final
and "no" losing in the final is not 'dominant'
@@DynoGreen313 again u proving my point. Why didn't Jordan do that in his first six years. And please bring facts, not hypotheticals and your feelings. No could've, would've, should'ves
Now provide context and list the teams he lost to, along with the roster he played with and their stats. Make sure you do that, buffoon.
The super fans of Lebron like Nick from that sports channel say a lot of people ate on MJs watch. But when he names the guys who ate he only names guys who won championships before MJ even came into the league like Magic(80,82), Bird(81,84), Dr. J and Malone(83). Then once he came into the league those teams were dynasty’s and the bull weren’t even close. The only team that ate was the pistons and they were having deep playoffs run since 87 so of course they. Just because MJs the goat doesn’t mean he was going to win championships during that time. I don’t care if it’s Wilt, Bill, Shaq, Kobe, or Lebron no one was going to win a championship in their first few years against teams that had already been winning consistently.
Well said 👍💪🏀
Bron is great but not Jordan.
Bruh Aires doesn’t understand Mike only scores he doesn’t know how to facilitate and make the whole team deadly like Lebron could/ hence why he couldn’t make it out the first round
People ate on Jordan’s watch too. All these jordan fans need to stop acting like jordan only played 6 years when he played 15. Those other 9 years other people were winning championships while he was getting bounced out in the first and second round or not making the playoffs at all. Bron has 6 finals losses and 4 of them are from the same team.
“Allow mf to eat “ enough said
Ain’t nobody eat when he took his ass to the “Wizards “???? 😳
The point is is that when Jordan was WINNING nobody else ate. He dominated the 90s and that’s a fact. We knew Jordan was losing at first and it wasn’t his time but when his time came he owned the NBA
@@JCUTTJCUTTWhat about the last couple years while Bron is in LA? Make a point and not sound silly..
no
once mj WON NO ONE ATE
many teams have eaten AFTER lebron won
If LBJ fans are "Bronsexuals" then WTF are Jordan fans?!🤔
I don't really watch to much with this guy but happened to see this. Most Jordan fans are something. They can make all the arguments for why Jordan is superior to Lebron but when you make a counter argument you're a "BronSexual"; yet they don't see themselves as the equivalent for Jordan? Think about it. They were talking about Jordan and Pippen. Lebron wasn't mentioned and he brings him up then cuts at anybody who thinks Lebron is the best.
That's the m.o. of most Jordan fans. They call you some delusional fanatic for feeling someone else is better than Jordan. But if you think about it; whose really the delusional fanatic? Is it someone who feels a player is an all-time great but just happens to feel someone else is the greatest; or someone who feels anyone who picks a person other than their pick is delusional?
I am old enough to watch Jordan and Lebron in their primes. There is no comparison Jordan was clearly better. The thing you keep leaving out is most of Lebron's fans never even saw Jordan play when it was happening. Jordan fans can actually compare both because they saw them both play. Lebron fans don't have the complete picture. Not to mention Lebron's final records is a disgrace.
@@H0VAI'm old enough to have watched Jordan in the 80's. The highlight of the 80's for Jordan was barely beating the Cavs in the first round on a buzzer beater to win the series. In the NCAA championship, Worthy was the MOP, not Jordan. Jordan put up numbers but that's it. He never beat the other great teams. His finals victories were against Utah, Seattle, Portland, Phoenix, and a post-Showtime Lakers team. None of those teams had won a championship.
Thank you Sir!!!¡ Well said!!¡
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@@overratedgm5713that’s because the 80s Celtic were better than 80s bulls.
Bulls were never favored to beat the Celtics.
I'm a proud bronsexual. He is better than Jordan, not even close.
Talking him about Jordan is like talking to Boosie. They are true Jordan fans
"Boosie Boo"
👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏he said everything
He’s wearing makeup 😂
Most underrated player of all time is David Robinson 2 chips,mvp,10x all star,4 time 1st team all nba when shaq and olajuwon were dominating, dpoy,4x all defense 1st team,scoring title,led the league in rebounding, led the league in blocks, career averages of 21ppg 10rpg and 3bpg,71pt game etc this dude is definitely top 25 of all time
He’s a great player but won a chip thanks to Duncan in a lockout shortened season and in the twilight of his career in ‘03 behind the big spurs 3, other than that he wasn’t making much tidal waves in the league
@@ef3602 🧢 so by that logic Barkley and malone didnt make waves either? B4 duncan when did the spurs have a good enough team to win the chip? You gotta make it make sense
The Admiral was never underrated to me.. They knew who he was..
@@shurone8829 🧢 no other player in history has the combo of accolades he has
@@lamart3857 Wait a minute. You clearly didn’t read or understood what I said. David Robinson is noT underrated. Fellow NBA players knew who he was..
So Jordan gets a pass for losing…but Lebron gets hate… guess that’s makes sense
East was top heavy in the 80’s, the bulls were making the playoffs with losing records. Idk how a 30 win team makes the playoffs. East was trash in the 80’s
Thank you Aries. That's the point I always said. Bulls replaced every player except pippin and still won. He just need that type of player with that skill set. Had Paxson, hodges, Armstrong, Kerr. Still got it done....catch and shoot type guard. Big men who can rebound and give him second chance points and hit free throws. Cause all those centers was trash. So why don't believe you take Pippen off that team and give him Wilkens or a Worthy, or Drexler, Mitch Richmond. They might not possess All of Pippens defense. But where they lack they was extremely more offensive gifted.
I remember as a kid I wanted MJ and Shaq on the same team. It would have been nice….
I remember Jordan choked twice going up against the Detroit Pistons... The 3rd yr he finally won but the Pistons almost got 3 in a row.
Can’t agree he averaged 30 plus both years and Scottie didn’t come into his own yet Detroit was just the better team
@@gratnezz76 what did Lebron average against Golden State in 2015, 2017 and 2018 ???? You Jordan stans move the goal post
@@M360-w6o but no one says he chocked in those either, in fact they actually give excuses as to why it was impossible for him to win
@@M360-w6owhat did average against the mavs?
Lmao at “choked” 😂😂😂 Where do yall get this BS from smh should be a age requirement for a lot of these topics because I know damn well yall didn’t witness MJ playing in real time
Yawns.. The “Jordan only played from 1991-1998” debate 😒😒😒
He clearly said Bird(in the 80s) called Jordan Blk Jesus. Watch the video and stop hating
One more ...even though MJ is widely considered the best...MJ and the Bulls competed in the playoffs in 95 and lost to the Magic, therefore Olajuwon" did eat" on MJ' s watch.
Nigga please Jordan came back late as hell in the middle of that season wit #45 still in baseball shape fatigue as hell. And still made it deep in the playoffs. Turned around and swept that same Orlando team in the conference finals the next year. Where was the trailblazers when Jordan lit Clyde Drexler ass up with all them 3’s????
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@@Wh4L205Listen..if MJ and the Bulls had won the title that year after him only playing in 20 games ...fans would STILL be talking about it. MJ can't compete for a title and lose and then we all act like it didn't happen..hey back in 2010 LBJ and the Cavs lost to the Celts and he melted..we find out later that Delonte was messing with his mother..It probably affected him..yet NOBODY gives LBJ any excuses about his performance that year. So again Olajuwon and the Rockets won a title in a year where MJ played AFTER he won titles.
@@nangaeboko6710 Why bring up Olajuwon when they not the ones who put the bulls out that year???? Have you forgot they won the year jordan was completely out??? You make no points bringing that. I don’t make excuses for Jordan. It’s just that when we speak facts you niggaz always think we making excuses. You and I both know if jordan didn’t retire that 91-93 bulls team would’ve smoked the rockets 🚀 💨 o
How?? Stop reaching, you’ll hurt yourself.. Mike allowed The Dream to eat. Plain and Simple.. No debate
Vlad said “Some other city’s Sox “😂😂😂😂😂😂
You see how emotional jordan fans get!😂😂😂😂
😂😂😂 I’m saying bro but they call us emotional
@@asaplodog6923Because y'all are😂
Hearing Lebron is better than Jordan is like a fan saying NBA youngboy is better than Pac. The shit just ain't factual, my guy.
Shannon Sharpe was literally trying to fight Lebron's opponents in the lakers grizzlies game 😅
@@rolliemosleywere talking about a debate that is entirely opinions😂😂😂nothing about this is facts
MJ is a tough guy to get along with. I lost so much respect when he gave a speech about Kobe crying when he actual former best friend Charles Barkley was standing a few feet away and Jordan refused to shake his hand. All because Charles said Jordan has to hire better people in the Hornets organization.
I don't put Bron over Jordan but Bron had to deal with more competition Bad coaches and way worse team mates.
Bron took 3 horrible teams to the finals and won 1.
bad coaches? Thats why He got David Blatt fired while the cavs were leading their division? Maybe even the conference???
What are u talking about lebron had a stacked Miami team and a legit duo with prime Kyrie. Stop smoking crack lebron had the weakest competition in the east compared to the west.
ACTUALLY Jordan had tougher competition in the playoffs than LeBron ever did. Although LeBron had better competition in the finals but you also have to factor in that LeBron has almost always had better teammates than Jordan ever did. He had AD, Dwade, Chris Bosh, Kyrie Irving.
@@23raid Jordan has never faced a team as good as those 2017-2018 warriors teams and you know that knock it off as much as I agree Jordan is GOAT Lebron has faced better competition. Jordan has barely faced a player as good as Tim Duncan in the finals AIDS Magic Johnson & Karl Malone were great but Duncan was a problem
@@hooligan5381 I never said he did, I said Jordan faced tougher competition in the playoffs not the finals. You can actually look this up the statistics would support that.
LeBron faced tougher competition in the finals but he also had a strong team himself to offset the tough competition he faced in the finals. Except for 2017-2018 Warriors.
I always said Bron is more like a mixture between Dominique and Magic. No where near comparison to Jordan or Kobe.
Aries with nothing but FACTS
90s ball.. Gilbert arenas has entered the chat😂😂😂
I agree with Aries ninjas definitely ate good on LeBron watch.
Stupid point in my opinion 84-91 people ate on Jordans watch
All time scoring leader is …….. not Jordan
@@joechucks1555 on someone watch meaning once they started winning not soon as a mofo enters the league clown
@@tys1646 what tf does that have to do with winning championships ..not to mention when Kareem had the scoring title and more titles but nobody gave af…now LeBron has it with less titles and it’s supposed to mean what exactly..it’s nothing more than a longevity stat.
@@CensorTube84 Kareem is my favorite player so idk what your talking about and mj has 6 and it’s people with more rings than mj but who has more points than lebron…….. nobody and y’all claim mj was the best scorer
If feel the same way as Aries stop comparing LeBron to M.J. LeBron ain't even better than kobe I mean LeBron good not taking anything away but he not as Legendary as MJ the Goat or kobe I mean let's talk about it 💯
One thing about these Jordan STANS is they’ll bring up Bron out of nowhere, and compare to Jordan, for no reason. LeBron wasn’t even in the conversation topic. At all.
You know why?? Because Bron stans do the same. You didn't notice that huh! By the way, why wouldn't they bring up the modern media's creation to try and bump Jordan off the number 1 spot. We are all still laughing at Rich Paul's social media take.
Neither of these two goofballs know ball. Shitting on pippen. Pippen was the kawhi Leonard of the 90s. A first team all nba and first team all defensive player. The East was a monster in the 80s but it wasn’t in the 90s.
Aries gotta take Mike 🥜 out of his mouth smh
No, Mike doesn’t take that Cavs team to the finals.
Bahahaha. He takes them to the finals and wins it. You should take aries advice and take lebrons d!@# out your mouth.
There both amazing I hate how people act like u can't be a fan of both 😭and Aries is hilarious but dude is quite literally a old head
Dominque and Jordan not winning rings together atop it.
84 through 90 Magic , Bird , Isiah ate all his lunch and made him watch
And he learned.
He wasn’t ready to eat yet. Once he ate in the 90’s, everyone else was dying from hunger.. He ate the crumbs also.
before he won
once he won nobody ate but the bulls
You must have failed reading comprehension back in high school.
Yeah, just like 2003 until 2011 he got his lunch took and had to go get some friends..
Aires is a fool jordsn is the most protected athlete in the history of sports
So is He a "Jordan sexual"?? shrugs
I’m usually the guy seeing both sides of the argument but still favor Jordan, but Ares made one hell of an argument
Everyone ate on JORDAN WATCH! Magic, Zek, Bird, kobe, shaq & Hakeem, Duncan
Put the alcohol down
@marcosmith9315 they did lmao every single one of them women rings while Jordan was in the league
@@brandenrobinson-ib5zpare you r*******? Magic, Zeke, Bird all won when Jordan was a pup. Oh and they all had multiple HOFs on the roster besides them. Hakeem won when Jordan was playing baseball. Kobe, Shaq and Duncan all won AFTER he retired again and came back to play with a fookin EXPANSION TEAM 😂
Vlad was nervous to answer that “was there n***as even playing” question. He just said man idk😂😂😂
LeBron fans want Lebron to better than MJ so bad but the numbers DONT ADD UP!! MJ has the most RINGS!!!!!!! LORD OF THE RINGS! Thats truth no emotion.
He doesn’t have the most rings but I agree he’s the 🐐
Goof troop pip and mj got the same amount of rings 🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️
Rings don't matter
Bill Russell has 11 rings, Robert Horry has 7, Bob Cousy has 6, Kareem has 6. So no Jordan does not have the most rings dummy
Houston Rockets won the NBA back 2 back 93 and 94. Never forget that shit. Clutch city Texas forever 🙌🏽
Warriors!!!!! 😂
Scottie Pippen led Bulls w/o MJ almost made Finals
I think the difference was one win
A team MJ built. And it was the East semi finals that they reached. NOT the finals!
How the fuck is only making it to the 2nd round "almost making the Finals" ?? Some of y'all need to stay out of this debate. smh
Don’t show this video to rick berry
Bird was more of a rival to Dominique than Jordan
Aries should do some guest commentary on Cam's sports show