10:07 is wrong. Expertise is still just as very important to DK as it is for other melee, because our necrotic strikes being dodged/parried is literally just as bad as the first 2 arguments of hit cap and spell pen cap, every single consistent hit 100% matters. Of course this doesn't apply if we're facing non-melee, but its better to have it and not need it for just 1 fight, than need it for the next possible fight but not have it. I suppose this would warrant having 2 sep gear loadouts depending on what you're facing, but the initial argument of expertise being negligible for DK is just absolutely fried asinine. Also 10:54 there is no such thing as vic glad girdle of triumph. There is only cruelty and prowess.
WDYM if u got enough space for all those macros when u just can put all this in one: /cast [target=mouseover, harm, exists][nomod] Chains of Ice /petautocastoff Claw /cast [mod:shift, @arena1] Chains of Ice /cast [mod:ctrl, @arena2] Chains of Ice /cast [mod:alt, @arena3] Chains of Ice
It is, and it works, exclamation marks ensure the spell isn't uncasted, it force recast if possible but doesn't toggle, usefull for druid forms / warrior stances too.
I keep seeing all these people drop scourge strike from their bar completely for necrotic strike, but what if you’re facing double dps in 2s?necrotic strike would be useless
people dont really play with virulence in cata and only 1 point into ebon plaguebringer because in contrast to wotlk the diseases in cata are extremely weak. and btw deaths embrace glyph doesnt work with lichborn healing. only for pets u get the 20 back. everytime i see a classic skill capped guide i am really hard questioning that your guides really come from rank1 gladiators as praised, becase so SO often there are wrong informations in it. edit: i think skill capped has blocked me because to me it looks like i can no longer answer to comments xD @user-up3dd1vw6b ill give u a short answer here: u are wrong. beyond 1 point ebon plaguebringer only increases disease damage. against a lot of comps epidemic is much better than virulence since we no longer spam chains of ice anyway because of how these work now for unholy DK in cata. we also dont use plague strike except maybe once (we use outburst). after that we wanna spam necrotic or scourge strike as much as we can, since they now also only cost 1 rune as well (or blood/festering for turning the blood runes). we only need both diseases to be up once for making our other strikes hit harder. epidemic often helps us with this
Ebon plaguebringer increase your death coil and gargoyle damage why u don't put 2 points in it? Can you stop spreading misinformation if u don't know how to play a dk
Are we sure Glyph of Death's Embrace - healing w coil refunds 20 runic power, should work on Lichborned DK? It actually does not work on Cataclysm-Classic, refunds only on pets. I wonder if it's intended or a bug, since I've never played DK on original Cataclysm before.
@@marekoravkin7956 It never did. This glyph is to sustain your pet if the enemy decides to burst it down, no pet = no dmg. It also allows to quickly stack dark transformation in such a case.
How did you get enemy's cast bar to the side of their gladius frame? Also, does the new move anywhere addon remove the blizzard arena frame? ( I couldn't get the blizzard arena frame to turn off in wrath). Lastly, what addon puts your target's (enemy) to the top middle of the screen? I tend to use a name plate & use blizz's target frame. But it doesn't always show all the debuffs and you can't always tell how much a fear has left on it for example. If anyone can answer that'd be a massive help! Thanks in advance!
Hey man idk if you've got your answer about the cast bar but it's in gladdy settings. You got a cast bar option which you can pick which one you want. There are a bunch
@@vvohvaelez9277 so focus on full resilience on every single gear piece, not run any pve trinkets because your resilience suffers, potentially run resilience chest enchant vs all stats and the shoulder enchant is where you draw the line? i dont buy it, they likely forgot about it
Because you can snapshot cloak proc with both trinkets, rune of the fallen crusader proc & unholy frenzy when you pop gargoyle, but engineering gloves shares cooldown with on use pvp trinket so you cant use them together only 30 sec/1 minute after trinket pop
@@joelharman8649the last part is incorrect. You can use your pvp trinket instantly into ur glove enchant *just cant stack*. Ime. If u pop gloves ur trink goes on 15 sec CD and if u pop trink ur glove goes on 20 sec CD. So you can have +use uptime for 35 seconds. This is why tailor + eng is the best hehe . If I had to pick one I'd pick gloves over cloak.
Dont sleep on the dwarf racial. Especially when youre gonna run agaisnt rogues and feral ALOT. for a trinket swap i will easily love the racial for a hard counter kill window.
so sad that frost isn´t really playable in pvp in cata because hungering cold got a cast-time added in the last cata patch... unholy just feels kinda gay with the pets doing about 50% of the damage. and blood is kinda lacking slows (since the heart strike glyph does no longer have a slow effect on it - vs wotlk, where it kinda was extremely underrated tho)
frost is really playable in pvp in cata though in arena unholy is better for sure but in RBGs and normal BGs frost is king, probably the 3rd best melee spec after feral druid and sub rogue in (R)BGs
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Hunter next pls.
Feral guide pls!
Urgently
Please atleast get your enchants right, no one should follow this shit with this amount of misinformation on enchants.
What's wrong with the enchants
@@nathancasey7712 Wrong enchants
@@joelvesterinen-b1h Which ones should you run
@@joelvesterinen-b1h Whats wrong with them?
10:07 is wrong. Expertise is still just as very important to DK as it is for other melee, because our necrotic strikes being dodged/parried is literally just as bad as the first 2 arguments of hit cap and spell pen cap, every single consistent hit 100% matters.
Of course this doesn't apply if we're facing non-melee, but its better to have it and not need it for just 1 fight, than need it for the next possible fight but not have it. I suppose this would warrant having 2 sep gear loadouts depending on what you're facing, but the initial argument of expertise being negligible for DK is just absolutely fried asinine.
Also 10:54 there is no such thing as vic glad girdle of triumph. There is only cruelty and prowess.
WDYM if u got enough space for all those macros when u just can put all this in one:
/cast [target=mouseover, harm, exists][nomod] Chains of Ice
/petautocastoff Claw
/cast [mod:shift, @arena1] Chains of Ice
/cast [mod:ctrl, @arena2] Chains of Ice
/cast [mod:alt, @arena3] Chains of Ice
Is that an exclamation mark before Dark Transformation? If so the macro doesn't work than
It is, and it works, exclamation marks ensure the spell isn't uncasted, it force recast if possible but doesn't toggle, usefull for druid forms / warrior stances too.
Can you do a guide for shadow priest please ❤️
I keep seeing all these people drop scourge strike from their bar completely for necrotic strike, but what if you’re facing double dps in 2s?necrotic strike would be useless
SC saying you dont need 2/2 in Endless Winter is absolutely wild to me.
best dk comps ?
Either im blund or they renamed that belt in the store
Rotation?
read your fucking spells lmao
Where can i look at rotation for udk?
wowhead ?
people dont really play with virulence in cata and only 1 point into ebon plaguebringer because in contrast to wotlk the diseases in cata are extremely weak. and btw deaths embrace glyph doesnt work with lichborn healing. only for pets u get the 20 back. everytime i see a classic skill capped guide i am really hard questioning that your guides really come from rank1 gladiators as praised, becase so SO often there are wrong informations in it.
edit: i think skill capped has blocked me because to me it looks like i can no longer answer to comments xD
@user-up3dd1vw6b ill give u a short answer here: u are wrong. beyond 1 point ebon plaguebringer only increases disease damage. against a lot of comps epidemic is much better than virulence since we no longer spam chains of ice anyway because of how these work now for unholy DK in cata. we also dont use plague strike except maybe once (we use outburst). after that we wanna spam necrotic or scourge strike as much as we can, since they now also only cost 1 rune as well (or blood/festering for turning the blood runes). we only need both diseases to be up once for making our other strikes hit harder. epidemic often helps us with this
true xd
Where to put points in unholy tree if no virulence
Only other option is epidemic, which is even worse than virulence
What are you trying to say
Ebon plaguebringer increase your death coil and gargoyle damage why u don't put 2 points in it?
Can you stop spreading misinformation if u don't know how to play a dk
@@구독자500명되면이같은 that’s right my dude
Frost dk pvp guide would be nice!
Is the waist, Vicious Gladiator's Girdle of Triumph correct? Don't see it at the conquest vendor.
im not seeing it either, not sure where this item is
make a guide on the rotation. 0 guides on rotation
does the tailoring embroidery override cape enchants or nah? and can you have parachute still too?
The tailoring enchant override cape enchants. You either have one or the other.
it does override enchants but not parachute
Are we sure Glyph of Death's Embrace - healing w coil refunds 20 runic power, should work on Lichborned DK? It actually does not work on Cataclysm-Classic, refunds only on pets. I wonder if it's intended or a bug, since I've never played DK on original Cataclysm before.
No it doesnt work
@@johng2794 I know it doesn't mate, I'm asking if it should ;)
@@marekoravkin7956 It never did. This glyph is to sustain your pet if the enemy decides to burst it down, no pet = no dmg. It also allows to quickly stack dark transformation in such a case.
Hard to consecutively watch these guys. Every video = self promo + racial. Mix it up, don’t be lazy
How did you get enemy's cast bar to the side of their gladius frame? Also, does the new move anywhere addon remove the blizzard arena frame? ( I couldn't get the blizzard arena frame to turn off in wrath).
Lastly, what addon puts your target's (enemy) to the top middle of the screen?
I tend to use a name plate & use blizz's target frame. But it doesn't always show all the debuffs and you can't always tell how much a fear has left on it for example.
If anyone can answer that'd be a massive help!
Thanks in advance!
Hey man idk if you've got your answer about the cast bar but it's in gladdy settings. You got a cast bar option which you can pick which one you want. There are a bunch
And for your target's position, you can move them freely if you unlock them. And when it comes to cc duration etc you can use omnicc, losecontrol etc
why therazane shoulder enchant (50 str, 25 crit) over tol barad shoulder enchant (50 str, 25 resil) ?
because they are clueless retail brains that just come in for every expansion start for a quick milk in classic and then go into hiding again xd
one is defensive other is aggresive.
DK's need to maximise pressure in their kill windows
@@vvohvaelez9277 so focus on full resilience on every single gear piece, not run any pve trinkets because your resilience suffers, potentially run resilience chest enchant vs all stats and the shoulder enchant is where you draw the line? i dont buy it, they likely forgot about it
@@vvohvaelez9277 dude they just forgot the resil shoulder ench resists xd
@@vvohvaelez9277 crit sucks, if u think going crit instead of resilience on a dk for being "aggressive" is a good thing you're clueless
Why tailoring over Engineering? Isn't the 480str that you get from the glove proc better than the cloak enchant?
Because you can snapshot cloak proc with both trinkets, rune of the fallen crusader proc & unholy frenzy when you pop gargoyle, but engineering gloves shares cooldown with on use pvp trinket so you cant use them together only 30 sec/1 minute after trinket pop
@joelharman8649 ahhhhhh I see. Thanks mate.
@@joelharman8649the last part is incorrect. You can use your pvp trinket instantly into ur glove enchant *just cant stack*.
Ime. If u pop gloves ur trink goes on 15 sec CD and if u pop trink ur glove goes on 20 sec CD. So you can have +use uptime for 35 seconds.
This is why tailor + eng is the best hehe . If I had to pick one I'd pick gloves over cloak.
How do youo suggest gettig 195 spell pen?
Back enchant +2 50 gens + 1 half gem
@@134andro which half gem gives spell pen?
@@tristanmorris9351 there must be greens and purples. Tag me again tomorrow and I can give exact names.
I wish human racial was at least a 3 min cd and just for stuns or something. Its ridiculous that literally every class's best race for pvp is human...
Boo hoo been like that for 14 years
Dont sleep on the dwarf racial. Especially when youre gonna run agaisnt rogues and feral ALOT. for a trinket swap i will easily love the racial for a hard counter kill window.
I thought orc was stronger than human against some classes such as rogues, because of the stun reduction.
Thanks for the video!
When you do priest, could you add playstyle, arena comps and most important 1v1 tips pls?
Don't play healer as a priest in 4.3. That's the best advice you'll ever hear in Classic Cata.
Whats better? Scourge strike or necrotic strike
Necrotic
Necrotic
@@chroma9953 but its like only against healer classes or
Are there any pvp rotation source?
@@TheLegendx3 I mean more or less every class in cata has some sort of healing now. It's just the way to go
so sad that frost isn´t really playable in pvp in cata because hungering cold got a cast-time added in the last cata patch... unholy just feels kinda gay with the pets doing about 50% of the damage. and blood is kinda lacking slows (since the heart strike glyph does no longer have a slow effect on it - vs wotlk, where it kinda was extremely underrated tho)
frost is really playable in pvp in cata though
in arena unholy is better for sure but in RBGs and normal BGs frost is king, probably the 3rd best melee spec after feral druid and sub rogue in (R)BGs
@landrybt @Mammel248 jeah i was mainly talking about arena
nobody want cata guide we want dragonf guides boy
keep urself safe friend
🤢
Speak for yourself lol
Loving the cata guides! Keep going on up retail is for the bubs
Go watch some pve rotation videos and find a good Netflix series in between ques
Nobody cares about classic dude where are the dragonflight videos
People still play retail? Cute
Dude, you Dragonflight andy's player base need to understand that no one cares about you and it's probably best if you'd just dissapear.
Retail is pretty bad, I don’t think no one would see those videos 😂
This is not true lmao, retail is dead af atm
Retail where every class is Goku….
macros dont work pet transformation/sac