Whenever shopping for a new gym, I always asked owners and instructors about the other gyms in town. The way they answered told me a lot about their character and if I want to train with them.
It’s really sad how childish the BJJ community is, but like Mike Tyson said you can’t be friends with everyone. Those guys talking trash just sound like haters.
Had the privilege of going to Derby City and train with Chewy. Was a great experience, and Chewy couldn't have been a nicer and more helpful guy. The students were equally nice, and me and the wife are trying to squeeze another trip to Louisville and train there again.
Something I really appreciated about this was the note to not bad mouth the other gyms/owners. In sales I was taught to never bad mouth the other guys. There are plenty of reasons for this, you should be able to stand behind your own product and character without tearing someone else down. Best case scenario, they buy your product (gym membership) and worst case, they don't and it has nothing to do with you as a person.
I used to train at a Hapkido gym, and the guys at a Kenpo gym down the road kept trying to stir up a dojo war or something. Constant trash talk, challenges to fight, Yada yada. It was very weird. I asked my instructor about it, and he was like "I don't know, man. I guess it makes them happy?"
There is more drama on a BJJ gym than a Mexican telenovela. I try to be friendly to everybody but knowing that is not going to click with everyone. Im ok with that.
Unfortunately, all dojos become high school type energy when you're around a bunch of people daily for a decade.. you start to get board, nosey, and Idle hands are the devils work. It often takes the owner and lead instructors setting very strong boundaries and not letting upper ranks roam around and act as freely as they want. And never giving people special treatment.
I'm a gym owner and a bb , and I do not hold my tongue when another local gym is doing bad business practices in my community, example unbreakable upfront payments and contracts, paid for belt promotions , rotating head instructors . Best product , best price , family , treat every customer like they are the only customer. Great video
This is excellent advice for life in general, why waste energy on negative things. Hating people, letting people frustrate you, talking or even thinking bad about people or things or anything requires energy you will never get back.
I think there was some saying that went something like this: "If they talk about you and say bad things, that's good, you must be doing something right. If they talk about you and say only good things, then something is off. If they don't talk about you at all, that is the worst."
Im having a similar problem but with a ex white belt student going through a mental health issue, after having a psychotic break in class he went on his Facebook making negative reviews of our place and then challenges the coach to a swimming challenge...mental health is important 🙏
There were two martial arts school near me that were well known for being tough,rough,little brutal, students being dq at competition, for excessive contact,both schools stayed in business until the owners retired,at ripe old age
As a person that hops different martial arts most of his life, I can't be part of gyms that will publicly talk trash about some else unless. Example, I recently changed schools from my BJJ school that I absolutely love and was shopping an MMA school with a solid grappling class, mainly just to learn striking fundamentals and still focus on grappling. One school I had picked out in almost every single way perfect... close to home, reasonable price, sufficient mat space, solid Muay Thai and solid BJJ both gi and no gi. HOWEVER when they asked where I was from and just being a white belt with a few stripes humbly told them where I took a few fundamentals. It turned into an bash session against my school and how they hated them. I know for a fact that my old school never did anything to them because as a rule they never talk bad about anyone and didn't even compete hardly ever. I just didn't feel safe. If they hated them, would I really be safe there? It just seemed disrespectful to me. Instead of them telling me what they thought was bad about other schools, they should've simply shown me what was amazing about their school. They blew it. I had a year's tuition money in my pocket ready to sign. Now, I drive down the road an extra 10 minutes to another cool school and they don't talk trash about others. They even commended me for coming from my previous school they I loved and only left because I wanted to add solid striking knowledge and I simply can't afford two schools.
My 1st gym talked trash about the gym were i currently reside. I like my current gym much more. The atmosphere is much more pleasant and far less judgy. I was basically blackballed from everyone there for not showing loyalty to my old gym/coach. And this is where the REAL cult of BJJ lies..
There is a gym in our area that consistently claims my gym charges 100 a month more for memberships than what it actually does. Part of the marketing is, we are 100 cheaper than so and so, which is actually super fucked up lol.
I have this myself. I hear schools referring to my gym as the clown school of the city. I couldn't give less of a shit if I tried. The only people that matter to me is my guys under my care and making them better in every facet that I can. We have a great community and I love helping people. Bjj is like a fucking soap opera. For a sport that is marinated in machismo, it sure is full of sensitive dudes. 🙄
We’ve had other gym owners talk trash about us plenty of times. Seems like it goes with owning a gym to some degree. We don’t allow it in our gym, and we are approaching 300 active members quickly. So let them talk all they want, hasn’t hurt us one bit. Most people don’t like being around that sort of negativity, let them talk, don’t respond.
Instructor insecurity is incredibly common when you're competing for students. Personally, I know my low place in the gym pecking order, and I try to add my value by caring about the students the most. I foster a friendly relationship with the other local coaches, and show them all a lot of respect, and they seem to be supportive of me in return. I will disagree with your reasoning though Chewie. New students are the lifeblood of your gym, and if other coaches are lying about you, it can be the death of a thousand cuts. Problem is; as they are doing it behind your back, it would make you look paranoid or weak to address it in public. All you can really do, if you're not willing to go John Wick on them, is offer an excellent service and trust the word to get around. Advertising helps too.
The problem is that the people aren’t talking trash they are talking about this black belts reputation and reputations are developed on behavior so it’s not trash talking as they are literally warning others about this guy’s gym and behaviors.
I never bad mouth other gyms. My gym is more based on self defense side, not competition style. I tell people if they want to seriously compete then they need to go to this other school in our area. I have fought mma & competed but I wanted to give back to my community & most people don't not want that atmosphere. I try to praise other gyms actually.
He needs to go dojo storming, or wait till a comp and have it cobra kai rules where winner stays and the losers leave the city, I'm getting too invested in this aren't I?
In Jitz, you’re never good enough. There’ll always be someone better. You will always get better. Everyone else will get better as well. Trash talking is ridiculous. You should focus on getting better and making your students and teammates better.
Let them talk. The more they talk, the more they make their own students curious who will want to check it out. When they come to your school, let them see for themselves who you and your students really are. If you have created a good school with a good environment, they will see it and realize their instructor is full of crap. They may even choose to job your school, which will be the best vindication you could ever get.
This is why I’m glad I have an mma gym not a bjj one. Bjj community is full of assholes that talk mad shit. So much worse that wrestling and mma. They question my blackbelt even tho the ibjjf plaques on the wall. They get say I sucked at fighting n never fought pro tho im on tapology. Bjjers are super jealous of mma fighters and their rival bjj gyms. One school owner also said “they just think bjj is throwing guys down to punch em in the face.” so I made tshirts saying “We throw people down and punch em in the face.” Cause it’s largely true
I’ll take a slightly different take and say if the gym owner is getting consistent feedback about something negative from other black belts maybe it’s worth considering they have a point? To me you can’t let others get into your head so don’t take too seriously but you should also consider maybe they have some sort of point you should learn from? It’s easy to say they are just talking trash but maybe there’s some truth to something they are complaining about?
What it boils down to is simply focus on the gym you want to run, your students and their progression, and just doing the best you can for your own health. Your actions and behavior will prove anyone talking trash wrong - unless you are one of those bully, Kobra Kai mofo's, then yeah, you deserve the trash talking, hahaha
So weird to feel powerless about trash talk in a sport where you can confront people Just trash talk back lol And if they have somehting to say, literally fight about it. Git gud
Donald Trump has proven there’s no such thing as bad publicity. By talking about you they’re putting your name in their students heads and admitting it’s in the coaches’ heads as well.
Watch "IPMan". Talking shit about each others kungfu has been going on for thousands of years. IPMan is the image of a true master. Not 2 bickering toddlers with a black belt "saying" whose kungfu is faww superior.
“You are undoubtedly the worst pirate I have ever heard of!” , Captain Jack Sparrow responds “Ah. But you have heard of me.”
He clearly needs to go to their gyms challenge them to a John Wick duel in front of their students - winner takes all.
I agree
It’s the only way.
...I once saw him tap 4 Black Belts...with pencil guard.
@@yew2oob954 😁
Anything else is corny as fuck
Cant stop looking at the drawing on the right
its a good one.
lol same.
Whenever shopping for a new gym, I always asked owners and instructors about the other gyms in town. The way they answered told me a lot about their character and if I want to train with them.
It’s really sad how childish the BJJ community is, but like Mike Tyson said you can’t be friends with everyone. Those guys talking trash just sound like haters.
its just humans bro.
I’m pretty sure other people have said that but true
Had the privilege of going to Derby City and train with Chewy. Was a great experience, and Chewy couldn't have been a nicer and more helpful guy. The students were equally nice, and me and the wife are trying to squeeze another trip to Louisville and train there again.
I heard his no GI present that great
Something I really appreciated about this was the note to not bad mouth the other gyms/owners. In sales I was taught to never bad mouth the other guys. There are plenty of reasons for this, you should be able to stand behind your own product and character without tearing someone else down. Best case scenario, they buy your product (gym membership) and worst case, they don't and it has nothing to do with you as a person.
I used to train at a Hapkido gym, and the guys at a Kenpo gym down the road kept trying to stir up a dojo war or something. Constant trash talk, challenges to fight, Yada yada. It was very weird. I asked my instructor about it, and he was like "I don't know, man. I guess it makes them happy?"
Alternate idea, Chewy: Offer a class in how to talk trash.
There is more drama on a BJJ gym than a Mexican telenovela. I try to be friendly to everybody but knowing that is not going to click with everyone. Im ok with that.
hahahahaha brazilian novelas > mexican novelas
Unfortunately, all dojos become high school type energy when you're around a bunch of people daily for a decade.. you start to get board, nosey, and Idle hands are the devils work. It often takes the owner and lead instructors setting very strong boundaries and not letting upper ranks roam around and act as freely as they want. And never giving people special treatment.
thankful that there is no drama in my gym, just great teammates and coaches
Give it a couple of years. People become humans after a while
Just wait for it hahahaa. Humans are humans. Drama included ;)
You're a good dude chewy. Need more people in the world like you.
Sometimes the trash talk is deserved.
Yeah if someone pissed off enough to do it on a regular basis I have found it's probably rooted In Truth
Love the message about not wasting our precious energy on haters. I needed to hear this. Thank you
Dojo storm!!!! A good old fashion donnybrook!
Great video and attitude. I bet your students love your gym. Thanks for the great content. James
I'm a gym owner and a bb , and I do not hold my tongue when another local gym is doing bad business practices in my community, example unbreakable upfront payments and contracts, paid for belt promotions , rotating head instructors . Best product , best price , family , treat every customer like they are the only customer. Great video
People can be like crabs in a bucket, if you know you’re doing well they will drag you down in hopes you will join them in dragging others down.
This is excellent advice for life in general, why waste energy on negative things. Hating people, letting people frustrate you, talking or even thinking bad about people or things or anything requires energy you will never get back.
Love your videos bro! I’m a White belt that’s been practicing for a year but I’ve been watching your videos since day one
I think there was some saying that went something like this: "If they talk about you and say bad things, that's good, you must be doing something right. If they talk about you and say only good things, then something is off. If they don't talk about you at all, that is the worst."
Im having a similar problem but with a ex white belt student going through a mental health issue, after having a psychotic break in class he went on his Facebook making negative reviews of our place and then challenges the coach to a swimming challenge...mental health is important 🙏
There were two martial arts school near me that were well known for being tough,rough,little brutal, students being dq at competition, for excessive contact,both schools stayed in business until the owners retired,at ripe old age
In the old days, trash talking will be settled in battle.
Liked for the use of circuitous 👏🏼
As a person that hops different martial arts most of his life, I can't be part of gyms that will publicly talk trash about some else unless.
Example, I recently changed schools from my BJJ school that I absolutely love and was shopping an MMA school with a solid grappling class, mainly just to learn striking fundamentals and still focus on grappling. One school I had picked out in almost every single way perfect... close to home, reasonable price, sufficient mat space, solid Muay Thai and solid BJJ both gi and no gi. HOWEVER when they asked where I was from and just being a white belt with a few stripes humbly told them where I took a few fundamentals. It turned into an bash session against my school and how they hated them. I know for a fact that my old school never did anything to them because as a rule they never talk bad about anyone and didn't even compete hardly ever.
I just didn't feel safe. If they hated them, would I really be safe there? It just seemed disrespectful to me. Instead of them telling me what they thought was bad about other schools, they should've simply shown me what was amazing about their school. They blew it. I had a year's tuition money in my pocket ready to sign.
Now, I drive down the road an extra 10 minutes to another cool school and they don't talk trash about others. They even commended me for coming from my previous school they I loved and only left because I wanted to add solid striking knowledge and I simply can't afford two schools.
For some reason the title reminds me of a Dharr Mann or Dramatize Me video 😂
Yes!!! I just got a string of those videos on my feed.You’re spot on.😂
If they don't know your name or gym, you're not a threat.. its a compliment when they talk about you... Insecurities breed contempt.
My 1st gym talked trash about the gym were i currently reside. I like my current gym much more. The atmosphere is much more pleasant and far less judgy. I was basically blackballed from everyone there for not showing loyalty to my old gym/coach. And this is where the REAL cult of BJJ lies..
There is a gym in our area that consistently claims my gym charges 100 a month more for memberships than what it actually does. Part of the marketing is, we are 100 cheaper than so and so, which is actually super fucked up lol.
Bring back dojo storms!
Hes been open for a year. He just isn't used to this yet lol. It is what it is
I have this myself. I hear schools referring to my gym as the clown school of the city. I couldn't give less of a shit if I tried. The only people that matter to me is my guys under my care and making them better in every facet that I can. We have a great community and I love helping people.
Bjj is like a fucking soap opera. For a sport that is marinated in machismo, it sure is full of sensitive dudes. 🙄
We’ve had other gym owners talk trash about us plenty of times. Seems like it goes with owning a gym to some degree. We don’t allow it in our gym, and we are approaching 300 active members quickly. So let them talk all they want, hasn’t hurt us one bit.
Most people don’t like being around that sort of negativity, let them talk, don’t respond.
Instructor insecurity is incredibly common when you're competing for students. Personally, I know my low place in the gym pecking order, and I try to add my value by caring about the students the most.
I foster a friendly relationship with the other local coaches, and show them all a lot of respect, and they seem to be supportive of me in return.
I will disagree with your reasoning though Chewie. New students are the lifeblood of your gym, and if other coaches are lying about you, it can be the death of a thousand cuts. Problem is; as they are doing it behind your back, it would make you look paranoid or weak to address it in public.
All you can really do, if you're not willing to go John Wick on them, is offer an excellent service and trust the word to get around. Advertising helps too.
The problem is that the people aren’t talking trash they are talking about this black belts reputation and reputations are developed on behavior so it’s not trash talking as they are literally warning others about this guy’s gym and behaviors.
I never bad mouth other gyms. My gym is more based on self defense side, not competition style. I tell people if they want to seriously compete then they need to go to this other school in our area. I have fought mma & competed but I wanted to give back to my community & most people don't not want that atmosphere. I try to praise other gyms actually.
He needs to go dojo storming, or wait till a comp and have it cobra kai rules where winner stays and the losers leave the city, I'm getting too invested in this aren't I?
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In Jitz, you’re never good enough. There’ll always be someone better. You will always get better. Everyone else will get better as well. Trash talking is ridiculous. You should focus on getting better and making your students and teammates better.
Let them talk. The more they talk, the more they make their own students curious who will want to check it out. When they come to your school, let them see for themselves who you and your students really are. If you have created a good school with a good environment, they will see it and realize their instructor is full of crap. They may even choose to job your school, which will be the best vindication you could ever get.
Sounds like a lot of gyms should hit fury grappling up and have an actual jujutsu match to see who’s better.
This is why I’m glad I have an mma gym not a bjj one. Bjj community is full of assholes that talk mad shit. So much worse that wrestling and mma.
They question my blackbelt even tho the ibjjf plaques on the wall. They get say I sucked at fighting n never fought pro tho im on tapology.
Bjjers are super jealous of mma fighters and their rival bjj gyms.
One school owner also said “they just think bjj is throwing guys down to punch em in the face.”
so I made tshirts saying
“We throw people down and punch em in the face.”
Cause it’s largely true
The shirt is great!
…“Chew Titsu” 👀🤡👍🙏
You ignore it you man- baby.
Uhh maybe they should fight about it since their fighters?
I’ll take a slightly different take and say if the gym owner is getting consistent feedback about something negative from other black belts maybe it’s worth considering they have a point? To me you can’t let others get into your head so don’t take too seriously but you should also consider maybe they have some sort of point you should learn from? It’s easy to say they are just talking trash but maybe there’s some truth to something they are complaining about?
Naughty chewy dating students 😉
Thug jitsu is the best jitsu!
What it boils down to is simply focus on the gym you want to run, your students and their progression, and just doing the best you can for your own health. Your actions and behavior will prove anyone talking trash wrong - unless you are one of those bully, Kobra Kai mofo's, then yeah, you deserve the trash talking, hahaha
Of one gym or affiliate is talking shit, they're a shitty gym. When every gym and affiliate is talking shit, you're the shitty gym
So weird to feel powerless about trash talk in a sport where you can confront people
Just trash talk back lol
And if they have somehting to say, literally fight about it.
Git gud
Working class gym are you kidding me? Everyone knows poorer people fight better.
Donald Trump has proven there’s no such thing as bad publicity. By talking about you they’re putting your name in their students heads and admitting it’s in the coaches’ heads as well.
Watch "IPMan".
Talking shit about each others kungfu has been going on for thousands of years.
IPMan is the image of a true master. Not 2 bickering toddlers with a black belt "saying" whose kungfu is faww superior.
NICE LUMP! What's the story? Also, don't talk shit on people within your own walls. Not cool.
If people are talking about you….its free publicity. Just move on.
great video...as usual...