Lebron probably would have been smart and kicked it to the wide open man rather than try to force a bad shot over the whole pistons team. Jordan kicks occasionally but most of the time he tries to take low percentage heavily contested layups. No wonder he takes a beating, the pistons players know he’s gonna put his head down so it gets pretty predictable.
But he didn't have the supporting cast he would gain when Phil Jackson implemented a new offensive philosophy - the triangle offense, and it was no longer almost always him who would attempt shots.
@@andrewspinney7502 That's just how LeBron plays, he passes instead of taking pressure shots. He has no killer instinct especially in clutch crucial moments.
I’m from Detroit and at that time I must admit I was biased towards the Pistons. After watching some of these old videos of Micheal Jordan I have to admit he was the greatest player I’ve ever seen. The Pistons played hard nose and sometimes dirty basketball, but Mike just kept coming back until he eventually defeated them. That takes mental and physical toughness hats off to Mike
The main part of ur comment is he kept coming back until he beat them! He didn’t give up, ask to be traded, ask for other superstars, he worked his ass off to get better as a player and as leader. Can’t say the same for most superstars.
@@multiplepassions3694 today in the 30 mid 30 some change every year the team that in the 80 and 90 dont happen so much ! and some plays gets today a whistle 4 sure in the kiddie nba were in. would like to see what the Pistins from end 80 do with the doncod guy, he gets whining to the reff ,-))
Yeah, I'm a Detroit fan too, but even back then, I knew Jordan was the best. It's really saying something that the Pistons were even able to slow him down SOMEWHAT. It tells you both how good Jordan was, and how good the Pistons defense was! (thanks in no small part to Joe Dumars, a seriously underrated player and great defender!)
Well, I'm from Chicago and absolutely hated the Pistons of that era. But no denying they were outstanding -- can't generate that kind of passionate hate without being pretty good.
xinkspillx You think other players weren't "triple teamed also"? Some were quadruple teamed and still produced. Not to mention, Bird and Magic both had to go through much better comp just to get to the Finals than Jordan. Then they had to face each other (Bird vs Magic) to be the champ. . . Who did Jordan have to go through, lol? When Jordan faced a Boston team with Bird in his prime, he got swept. When he faced a Detroit team in their prime, he got massacred. It wasn't until these teams were old and injured that Jordan began winning.
xinkspillx True. I'm not saying Jordan wasn't great, he was. I'm just saying I don't believe he's the greatest ever. . . If I could pick whomever I wanted for my team in their prime, Jordan wouldn't be the first or second.
Chris Kavanagh really? - pretty interesting - I could see him not being on your first team though ... but who would your two starting 5s be just to break it down for me.
I counted like 5000 fouls in today's terms in this vid... In retrospect, the only thing this "Jordan Rules" did was make MJ the greatest basketball player of all time... They played them physically, they beat him up on occasion. No problem. He built up his physique. The triple-teamed him? No problem. He learned (the hard way) to pass the ball... Jordan Rules is what elevated him to the next step. To what he is now... He adapted. He worked his ass off and it repaid. He got a clean sweep on them... He IS the greatest because he adapted his game to his own physical condition and to what he could and could not do. This is why he was unstoppable. Even when he was 40 years old he was an excellent basketball player. His body might not be in 100% condition but his mind was 1000 times faster than the kids he played with... PS: His average numbers during the 3 years stint with the Pistons were still unbelievable even with the "Jordan Rules" defense...
When Bulls finally took down the Pistons all their starters were between 27-31....lol and Rodman was dpoy I think. The Pistons got old MYTH is st8 bullshit. Bulls got better and adapted.
@@allanhouston6759 Not to mention Bulls aside from MJ was getting better 88- 4-1 Pistons 89-4-2 Pistons 90- 4-3 Pistons 91- 4-0 bulls they were gonna beat that Pistons team that year no matter what.
I have a new respect for Jordan after watching this. I never got to watch him live, so I didn't know what he went through. Nearly every play on here would be considered a foul these days.
Hubert Cumberdale I’ve seen them all since Magic....MJ is by far the most impressive athlete/player the NBA has ever had. Basketball skill set and physical attributes are unmatched 🤷🏻♂️✌🏼
This makes no sense to me when people say that MJ did not play against zone defense and he would not be able to play his style of play in today's NBA. The man played against the zone and broke it down. Players did play zone on those days.
Zone defense wasn't allowed in Jordan's era. Back then, they called it an illegal defense. The video didn't clarify, but illegal defense was to have one defender far from his man in order to double a player without the ball. You're allowed to double team a player with a ball of course. It was slightly masked in this era only bc shooting 3s/ floor spacing wasn't a priority. For example, Scottie only shot 25% and averaged 0.3 3-pointers a game in 1990 (the Bulls' last loss to the Pistons in the Playoffs). Craig Hodges was their best 3-point shooter that year but he was a bench player and played only about 1/3 of the game. I think Jordan would do great in either era. There's no hand-checking/ physical defense in today's game and there's a 3-second violation. Floor-spacing and 3-point shots would render the defenses to allow Jordan to either penetrate to the basket and score a dunk/ layup or pass to the open shooter if the defense collapses on him (Horace Grant would most likely be shooting 18-20 foot jumpers with consistency and even shoot 2-3 3s a game. Scottie in today's era would shoot 6+ 3s a game as well).
@@kawaiiafangirl The point is that they didn't always call the illegal defense. @3:57 you have 2 people playing Jordan and he didn't have the ball. That was illegal. @2:04 is a zone defense.
@@depannist @ 2:04, the editor wrote that "man to man defense does not mean that you have to stick to your man like glue". I'm sure it happened to a degree from time to time. A ref can't catch everything, just like they don't call a defensive/ offensive 3-second violation all the time in today's game. I see some hand checking sometimes today too but they just aren't called.
depannist Good man-to-man defense has defensive players two passes away sagging toward the paint for help-side defense while still being able to see their man.
The only reason that worked is because the Pistons knew then coach, Doug Collins, set plays mostly and exclusively around Jordan, and the Bulls did not surround Jordan with good players for him to pass the ball to. Therefore Jordan had to make his best effort to score, even if triple teamed.
are you stupid? this same team ended up winning a championship when they did the triangle offence and played more team ball instead of giving all the shots to crybaby please change the rules david stern jordan
Definitely it highlights the lack of offensive talent (certainly in terms of shooting) around Jordan. It also shows some of how the the triangle offense was such a help to Jordan, the cuts and spacing around high post ball position punished this kind of defensive collapse without requiring a lot of good shooters.
VeriTroll Worthy jr. seriously?....every era has guys trying to get calls to go their way but not to the extent that they whine today...it's out of control
One of the many great things about Jordan was how he took those flagrant type fouls (by today's weak NBA standards which relies more on refs than player skill) and just kept playing, rarely ever complaining unless he felt someone was out to kill him. What toughness and sportsmanship. And by the way, the Jordan rules only worked when the Bulls had an underdeveloped team with only one true scoring threat.
+twobigjets Jordan whined about calls more than anyone in NBA HISTORY. Understand that he was being guarded in ALL these footage by guys 5 inches shorter and 20 ounds lighter, like Joe Dumars, Isaiah Thomas, Danny Ainge, Jim Paxson, Kevin Johnson, Hersey Hawkins, and Jeff Malone. Heck, even athletic guards like Ron Harper and Wilkins were shorter than Jordan.
Show me one of those whine moments. Most of the times it was him giving the defending player an earful, not moaning to the refs like LeWhine. Regarding who was guarding Mike, watch the footages of him dunking on Robinson, Ewing, Hakeem, Shaq, Bol, Motumbo, etc...then come again.
+Samuel Fernandez. complaining and whining is two different things. lets just be clear. theres a select few players that actually whine. a whiner is someone like cousins or young lebron. if i drive and a guy blatantly slaps me in the back of the head and i look at the ref and say " wheres the fucking foul?" is that whining??
@@ASHTREY basketball used to be a gentlemen's sport, now Adam Silver recovery this tradition- lack phizically contact, higher pace, more shooting. But maybe it makes doesn't like American style sport, maybe
Charles Taylor more athletic no doubt, but they aren't better basketball players, not really that close either. The other issue is that LeBron's best attribute is his ability to drive the lane. The 80's and 90's is by far the toughest era to create in the paint. No 3 second violations and a plethora of talented centers. The NBA is severely lacking rim protectors. The #1 center of today would be near the bottom of the top 1 centers of then.
Centers are not the only thing jamming the lane. Zone has allowed defense to be taken to another level. Just look at him against Brooklyn. There were legitimately 4 guys on him at times. And no, there may not be the fundamentals like there used to be, but the average player is better, and either way, it's not "not close." Athleticsm and zone have brought it to that level.
Chris Kavanagh - exactly. Taking a hard foul a times was part of the game and yo knew which guys had heart. And if there was a cheap play or overtly hard foul committed against your teammate, one of the bigs played enforcer - they'd hit the opposition's guards just as hard to keep the other team in check. It was like baseball when a pitcher hits a batter with his pitch - the other team retaliates in kind. It was war. I miss the intensity and rivalries and fighting spirit teams use to have.
A lot of defense plays in this videos were in fact uncalled illegal defense. When I was a young kid watching these games I didn't realise that, but now 30 years later I found it so false to say Jordan didn't face zone defense back then. Pistons' commitment to zoning and double (sometimes even triple) teaming Jordan was really successful and so amazing.
@@dallinferguson994 how would he not be as good? When they made the rule fully illegal, he averaged 25/6/5 before a meniscus injury. This was in his wizards years as a 38 year old lol
@@dallinferguson994 Hm how is that? He averaged 30ppg on 50% shooting against the Pistons in the playoffs. And that's with all the physicality,handchecking,no 3sec defensive rule and the whole "Jordan rules" in place. Like 'Big 3' said, a 39/39 year old Jordan was averaging over 25ppg in a very slow paced Era with bum knees before his injury after illegal defense had been banned.
"Jordan Rules" was literally a zone defense in an era where supposedly no zone defense was played. But like Wilt Chamberlain said, zone defense was always around, legal or otherwise. Always.
@dynamic6645 there was hidden zone back in the day. Like the video shows on some plays, the defenders would sag off their guys to create a zone around the player they wanna put pressure on. George Karl in his book said that every coach played zone, you just masked it on the weak side so the refs wouldn't call it
Alan Salgado come on bro, Lebron has done a ton of flopping especially back around 2012... he doesn’t flop as much recently but there is 0 doubt that if Lebron took that Elbow at 8:56 he would be on the ground for at least 2 minutes trying to sell the flagrant.
if you watch the video properly dumbass youll see how many times jordan had someone wide open for a 3 or layup and chose to drive to the basket himself the ball hog
***** oh yeah? Is that why Dennis Rodman still won DPOY that year, Joe Dumars still made the all defensive team, and the Pistons still had the number 1 defense in the league? nice try though
they werent' old........Isiah was 29, Dumars was 28, Rodman and Salley were only in the league for 5 years at that point.......cut them sports shows off and stop listening to them cats...Detroit was 2 time defending NBA champions when the Bulls dethroned them.....
They were in year 10+, that is well outside of the prime of mostly any NBA player. The MJ fanatics discard science to keep him on an untouchable pedestal for whatever reason.
wow, This WAS NBA basketball back then, and MJ was almost supernatural. With all the rule changes in the last 20 years, the Pistons defense looks NOW like a chance for a lot of technical free throws for the Bulls !!!
@@noblevisions643 actually the rules changed to avoid teams playing dirty trying to injur players, with Jordan they tried their best and it made the news, they had to do something about it was getting out of hand, nice try bronsexual
@@m23b24 Sorry to burst your bubble dude but no one was stopping the bulls. 88- 4-1 Pistons 89- 4-2 Pistons 90- 4-3 Pistons 91- 4-0 Bulls. STFU with that shit Bulls worked hard and finally broke through. Pistons was about to 3-Peat and that was the ECF and they got swept.
buster60341 Yea, you breathe on someone and they call a foul nowadays. There's so much stoppage in a game that it's hard to believe today's players are always taking days off for cramps and injuries.
Yes, more hard fouls and more uncalled fouls. Average game length in 1995-1998 was 132 minutes. Average game length in 2000-2015 is 138 minutes. Players are soft now even though they have more downtime during a game.
What defensive pressure and physicality!! you get hit all the time. All 5 players on the floor were on him! Yet still got through double and triple teams while shooting and penetrating against everyone. ! MJ!
If this was kobe instead people would be all over him saying he's taking bad shots and not using his teammates when they're open. But watching this video you'll know MJ took a lot of "bad" shots like kobe does at time over double teams and forcing them. It's really no different.
He passed quite a lot when he had to. And he only took the bad shots because most of them were on the dying seconds of the shot clock. Kobe shoots when there's still like 15 seconds. As shown conspicuously throughout the video, Jordan never receives the ball first and isolates. He is always part of the play and let's the team do their thing before getting involved. Plus, a lot of the times Mj was trying to draw a foul.
Peter Skotta Jordan was a ballhog but he was efficient & Jordan took less moves than Kobe before he makes his shot. Kobe would punk fake u 5-6 times & hold the ball before he took the shot & Jordan would do maybe 2-3 fakes & score on u & didnt hold the ball, Jordan shot the ball a lot & had the ball in his hand a lot but he always scored within the flow of the offense. & Jordan jumped higher & more athletic than than Kobe so he can make inside shots & fadaway shots at ease more than Kobe. Also Kobe takes more bad 3 point shots than Jordan & Jordan took less 3 point attempts but was able to shoot them at a high percentage even before the NBA moved the 3 point closer to da free throw line, in 89-90 Jordan shot 38% from 3 & 92-93 Jordan shot 35% from 3. Plus, Jordan moved more off the ball than Kobe, Kobe rarely moves off the ball.
Armando Koz you’re right but the numbers show Jordan had an all around better field goal percentage. Where as Kobe wasn’t quite as fundamentally sound as Michael
so you're saying wilt chamberlain is the best of all time because this is basically the same thing that happened to him as well as him being the target of the original "hack a shaq" strategy
Warriors don't have a player that would force Pistons to come up with ''X player rules''. They wouldn't protect the paint like that. They'll be man on man. No open shooters for GSW. But that's all besides the point. They'd be injured first couple minutes anyway.
NBA has really gone soft over the years. . Some fouls back in this era are good hard ones to prevent an easy bucket. I mean, the way they foul is dangerous and all but physicality and toughness is in every sports anyway. . Really just an smh moment how soft the NBA really has become over the years
Teams now a days would beat this defense 9/10 times with all the sharp shooters in the league. It's basically a simpler version of Popovich's "Cut the Head off the Snake" defense in which you don't let their best player beat you one on one
Well I wud hope so. This strategy was used 20yr ago. But actually coach Brown's Pistons used this same exact strategy on Kobe & completely shut him down 4 outta 5 games in the finals.
Jordan Roberts u are clearly watching a different game than everyone else. there are WAY more outside shooters in the game today that late 80's and earlier. we have some of the greatest shooters of all-time coming from the mid 90's to current. u provide me a list of shooters from the era you are referring and i will triple it... with ease.
dathvada321 Shooting is definitely not a lost art today from a 3pt shooting perspective, but mid range shooting is down from where it once was. That 15-19ft range isn't mastered like it once was. Ft throw shooting hasn't improved either overall & it isn't as consistent as it once was. Shooting 2day is incredibly streaky 2day when compared to back then also. The game 2night was a prime example. Curry is the only player to shoot over 41% from the 3pt line in his 1st 5 seasons but he may go 2-10 from 3 one game then go 6-9 the next. I've seen a ton of streaky shooters but these player's swings are so drastic it's crazy, but it is fun 2watch tho. Curry is probably my favorite player 2watch when he's on.
dathvada321 I see ur point but it's not impossible at all to win a ring w/o great 3pt shooters on the roster. It's not even really needed honestly. A great defensive team w/consistent, efficient inside scoring & consistent perimeter shooting even w/just mediocre 3pt shooting will destroy a great 3pt shooting run n gun team in a 7 game series everytime. If great 3 pt shooting equalled rings, Steve Nash's Suns & those Suns from the late 80s & early 90s as well as these GS Warriors would have several finals appearances & rings by now. The only reason the Suns in the 90s got to the finals was because of Barkley's inside game & incredible rebounding along w/KJ's insanely efficient pg play & consistent perimeter shooting, (he wasn't a 3pt shooter btw). I saw those early Phoenix Suns teams score 108pts in a half once. I'm pretty sure you can't even imagine a team shooting that good or scoring at that kind of pace, but still that team never even came close to winning a ring. 3pt shooting is just too inconsistent & sporatic because it's too far of a shot to be consistent night in & night out no matter how great the shooters are. Mediocre 3pt shooting with a good consistent defense & an efficient, consistent inside game via post play or a perimeter player who can get inside & finish around the basket efficiently & knock down their FTs will always beat a team that just primarily shoots a ton of 3s in 7 game series & it'll usually just take 5 games to dispose of them.
nice work,we can add that teams played zone defense anyway in the 80's and 90's...and it was common.it was just hidden and that's the reason why it has been allowed by the nba because it slowed down the games because of the number of illegal defense that were being called in every game because of the zone defense.
Man Game. To be fair to today's players though, the rules were muuuuch different. You could camp a big man in the paint, and all kinds of perimeter contact was allowed
He is the best player of all time no one will ever match him. Credit to the piston coach and his team tried so much to break him down and it worked. Im not a fan of their tactics but judt shows MJs greatness even more that he must be managed and fouled. What a player, what a mindset.
Jordan had to have amazing stamina to keep running, get open and keep making those shots. Impressive. I know the Pistons played hard but seeing this, who wants to drive into the paint when you know they'll go hard at you. In the end, this made Jordan a better player because worked out the next summer to become stronger, better, faster.
I think Kobe would survive this era because I think he has the same mentality like MJ but I don't think Lebron can. Lebron whines on every god damn calls he can be punked and bullied he gets irritated with trash talkers.
maybe, LBJ is a product of today's game so naturally you'll see a sissy style game play...MJ was a product of his game of that era, naturally you'll see a ruthless stone cold blooded calculating player
jojo johnson yea i was just thinking this not too long ago, maybe hes just taking advantage of todays nba knowing hell get the calls i mean he is 6'8 250 and he broke his nose and still went for the dunk showing his toughness so idk
whining is one thing. But he rarely gets his calls anyways, and he finishes his shots through contact. Whining afterwards is not the same as being afraid to hit the paint. I doubt Lebrn would have trouble.
Kobe has always hated physical defense.... He whined all game long with Bowen playing him tight. LeBron is a physical monster, hed thrive in any era... GTFOH.
I think the people saying that the traps could've been countered if Jordan would've just passed are 100% right. The thing is, the Bulls lost those because Jordan didn't want to pass. It took Phil Jackson and the Triangle offense for him to realize that he needed to pass the ball. He did that and BAM! They beat the Pistons
He didn't pass because he didn't feel his team could be trusted. And with Players like dave corzine, bill cartwright, and brad sellers, I honestly couldnt blame him.
Jordan wasn't a selfish player. He played point guard for a while and averaged like 11 assists. I agree that passing in these situations would have probably helped some of the time, but I also agree with Yoshi that he didn't have the best players to pass to. I think it was a similar situation with Kobe and Iverson a lot of the time as well.
Lone Star VII The rules did change but I think even if they didn't, the Bulls still would've won that year. Maybe not as easily as they did but they would still have come out victorious because the Piston's Jordan Rules no longer worked against Jordan. Phil Jackson's Triangle Offense pretty much neutralized the Piston's defense along with their master plan against Jordan. By 1991, the Bulls had perfected their Triangle Offense and in full form (They only used portions of the Triangle in 1990) and Jordan was no longer the main focal point of their offense. Also, the Bulls had matured and became much more strong mentally and psychologically. Even Laimbeer and Rodman couldn't throw them off their game with their mental mind games after that.
I disagree, when he gave the ball up they would just hit his teamates as hard or even harder, resulting in turnovers. He didn't pass because he knew they couldn't withstand the contact of detroit, as well as the mental games they played. It took the whole team improving as a whole for them to win, not just mike passing the ball a bit more. Pippen's improvement was the biggest though, he was one of the main problems with his poor play against Detroit until he finally stepped up and improved and figured out how to play them, allowing Jordan to not be tripled and double teamed all the time.
Dominic dominic not if he was in the east. between Detroit and bulls alone he would be first round and out. LeBron, just like Kobe were propped up because the NBA losing ratings after MJ retired.
Great video. The competition Jordan played against and still dominated compared to Lebron is not even comparable. There are no centers today and no defense. Im not a Lebron hater but I watched both of these guys play and MJ is definitely better. Especially game on the line Jordan will find a way to score. Lebron might pass the ball off to someone else. Its just a different mindset
at this time he was still scoring 32 or more ppg at 50% shooting while getting fouled, double and triple teamed.. Meanwhile 1st nba team defense and dpoy and scoring title in the same year.. 35+ ppg/ 7/8..... what the actual fkkk hallelujah! black jesus...
Of course the game was more physical back then, but compared to today, a lot of players are slow and unathletic. Can't believe some people used to get paid millions of dollars to stand around and foul jordan
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Great video. That Piston defense made Jordan work every possession. Jordan must of been in tremendous peak shape. Last great defensive team I saw in recent years is the 04 pistons, 08 celtics and the recent bulls teams
I was never a huge MJ fan, though I respected his talent as being a once in a lifetime occurrence. After watching this again though, I’m convinced that Mike would have averaged 60ppg in today’s game.
+SurreallTV yall lame af..... steph curry and lebron wouldve balled anyways.. great players always chase greatness and find ways to adapt and get better . but its stupid af to compare diff eras anyways..its interesting but stupid .
to break a zone, A) you can overload one side of the court to play a numbers game, B) you can collapse the zone by attacking the high post and then either dish or drive depending on how the defense reacts C) You can beat it with good mid range shooting. D) Attack the holes of the zone. Any offense with strong cuts or multiple screens can easily exploit that (San Antonio's offense and Adelman's Princeton offense).
This is why when people mention Pippen and try to use him as a crutch to down play Mj. Just take them to this footage. Cause they knew Pippen was not a player that can single handling beat you. But Mj could! Thats why they let Pippen get his 15 to 20 point's. Knowing Mj could go off for 50 to 60 points!
MJ was DUMB enough to play into their hands. LeBron played with Matthew Dellavedova, Iman Shumpert, J R. Smith, and Tristan Thompson, and took them to the Finals. Jordan couldn't get his team to .500 because he had probably the lowest basketball IQ of any major player, with the exception of Kobe Bryant.
Emmanuel Enyinwa That comment proved your under 30 lol! Cause if you wasn't you would know the league was 10x harder then. And Mj made drafted players good enough to win! Plus you keep forgetting LeBron has lost 4x while mj has never lost lol
Yall youngsters don't know Mj took drafted players, not players that was already good. And made them good enough to win! Not send him Magic, and Bird. But drafted rookies
Orlando Lewis Please STOP! Jordan NEVER ONCE led his team to .500. NOT ONCE. He played 10 playoff games without Pippen, and he won ONE game and lost 9. Think about it: your "GOAT" won ten percent of his playoff games without Pippen. That is LAUGHABLE. Then, Jordan left to play baseball, and Pippen led the Bulls to 55 wins, or 2 less than when Jordan was on the team. Jordan's CAREER record without Pippen is under .500, even during the great Bulls threepeats. This guy is the most GROSSLY OVERRATED player in the history of team sports.
+Emmanuel Enyinwa Number 1 Jordan had just got in the league himself! Every player back then had to grow. That's part of the game. Plus you keep forgetting LeBron didn't win until they sent him to play with already Superstars , Wade,Bosh. They drafted Pippen.And mj made him better! These facts
And people call LeBron the goat? Lol he has never seen these traps and triple teams. Never!!! No one fears him..no one plays hard D anymore. Can u imagine Jordan and Kobe not doubled and tripled? Man they both would have scored 50+ a night
Chuck Daly doesn’t get enough credit for this ingenious creation. Michael Jordan was a freak of a player, but to come up with this defensive tactic is just so smart 👍
and still gets finals mvp. Its scary to think how good he was. Its scary to think how much he would dominate now. He and Hakeem would just be unstoppable.
+Sparkz302 you're out of your mind aren't you? A 40 yr old jordan was able to put big numbers against young and athletic players like Kobe, Vince Carter, Shawn Marion, Dirk Nowitzki, ron artest (defensive player of the year), and many more. He averaged 20+ppg, 5rbs, 5ast. Who's other player can do that? Doing those things after retiring twice? hahah
You wouldn't want LeBron back in that day, free to be ruff like that. I don't like the guy, but I can tell you right now if he wanted to be outright physical in full beast mode, he would break every fucking bone in your body, and drain you outside the paint. Pick a poison situation. The Pistons would be dealing with a nightmare (A physically amplified jordan that can bulldoze his way into the paint). And yes, the NBA back in the day in terms of physical aggression makes the current NBA look like Disneyland trip.
On my 12 year old son`s basketball team, the coach said ' Shut out the middle do what ever it takes." A kid whent in for a layup. My son figured he could get a cheap charging foul. The kid came up and plowed him. The reef didn't call it. He gave me a look, and i nodded my head. The kid again goes in for a layup. No pick was even tried. He comes up, and i will tell you, my son`s knuckles got popped in. The kid was knocked out. It may sound nothing like your story comparing a 12 year old to Lebron James, but the better people never get called for fouls. My son had a miner concussion from the kids knee but no call. The other kid walked away with a bump. How do i know, his rich ass parents where gonna sue us.
After watching the commentary, I thought I would see "poor" Michael Jordan taken off on a stretcher. It was whining like this that made the NBA change the rules and water it down so Jordan and the Bulls would start winning titles. For all the talk about "the tough 90s" Jordan played in, he was 0 for that era, as the Pistons owned the Bulls. It was in the watered down league--with the 3 point line moved in--that Jordan and the Bulls actually won anything. And, for the record, Jordan was bigger and way more gifted physically than EVERY guard the Pistons had--Isaiah, 6-1, Dumars, 6-2, Vinnie Johnson, 6-2.
+Emmanuel Enyinwa Dumars was not 6'2" and was 89 finals mvp, 4x all defensive first. The internet is available to you too for this sort of player research. smdh. jeangalvanis.net/wp-content/uploads/galvanis-net/sites/218/Thomas-and-Dumars.jpg
I saw him play the 90s Knicks. 90% of the time, he was guarded by a 6-2 CBA player named Jon Starks, who had ZERO moves off the dribble, and whose only "offense" was throwing up three pointers, even though he was a 35% career three point shooter. The Knicks had a 6-5 power forward named Anthony Mason, who was also a CBA player and a 6-4 small foward named Charles Oakley, who couldn't shoot either. The Knicks topped this up with an aging VERY skinner center who had both knees scoped, and who could make SOME shots, but barely could post up against 7-2 inch, 270 pound center, Bill Cartwright. The Bulls also had 6-8 Hall of Famer Scottie Pippen, 6-8 power forward Horace Grant, who had one of the highest PERs for his position for the period. The Bulls would absolutely SHUT DOWN the Knicks EVERY crunch time--with the help of the officials, who usually turned their backs on the Bulls just clobbering the Knicks while Jordan paraded to the free throw line every time 6-2 Jon Stark or 6-2 Doc Rivers so much as breathed on him. Yes, I saw those series.
+Emmanuel Enyinwa Yeah and they made the playoffs every year, still give Jordan a really hard time, made it into the Finals, Ewing a Hall of Famer, beat Reggie Miller in some classic series and are one of the most respect it team of the 90s. Oh yeah poor old weaklings New York Knicks
Let's be real These 80's defense didn't have to cover up the 3pts line as much as today's game Hell they didn't even guard the 3pts line This defense looked good because you were playing against a driving into the lane old school inside game What would happen if they had to guard the perimeter and 3pts line as well? Their legs would burn out trying to keep up to all those 3pts shooter we have nowadays From position 1 to 4 we are shooting 3pts nowadays and even some 5 are starting to shoot 3pts as well Good luck figuring that out
+Welen aja Exactly. People get nostalgic so it prevents them from finding any fault with 80s defense. But they weren't even allowed to play floating zone, so it was easier to time attacks at the rim because the big man wasn't just standing there. This is exactly why today's elite teams have such deep rotations. It's because they're running miles more per game trying to run out at shooters. For MJ it was a simple as driving: if the defense collapsed on him, he kicks to a WIDE OPEN shooter; if not, he'd have a dunk.
+Welen aja The physicality prevented soft play-styles like Stephen Curry from getting away with murder. Take the recent Spurs vs. Warriors game for example: All the Spurs did was overwhelm Curry with with traps and presses, stayed with him all game long and he missed alot of shots. He was tired and frustrated because he can't create his own shots as good as an MJ or Reggie Miller. As soon as refs take the whistles out of their mouths the Warriors and any soft play-style is subject to vulnerability. It's not nostalgia, but rather common sense. A Stephen Curry type player is in no way exposed to this type of pressure or physicality.
+EnduringArts Curry can't create his own shots as good as Miller? Is that a joke? He got shut down in one game by the best defensive team in the league with the best coaching. He may not be able to dominate the league in the past era, as he would now due to more physical defenses, but you can bet your money he still would have a much greater career than Reggie Miller - he is simply a much better player.
+Welen aja lol you kids. today's 3 point shooters will get murdered in the 80's and 90s... the only reason we have so many 3 point shooters nowadays is only because of the bullshit "no hanchecking'' rule... not to mention the fact that the 3 point distance was shortened... people keep forgetting how far people like Larry Bird had to shoot to drain a 3 pointer.... you think Curry would be any good back then?? SMFH jog on young fella
This vid is so dumb yea jordan was so good ? Funny how he always had 2 teammates open but didn't use them might aswell just have him and pipped out there te rest can sit on the bench
Were you paying attention at all? The Pistons rotation does not allow him to pass, since they play a loose man to man defense, and they can just go back to their man if MJ kicks the ball out to them. But no, you can just throw that "ball hog" bs around like saying: "Hello". Take out a notepad and pen, and take notes....
Funny how Lebron has never averaged more than 8 apg in a playoff season, something Jordan did twice Funny Lebron never averaged 7.5 apg in the Finals, when MJ averaged 11.4 in 1991 - and no player since 91 has reached 10 apg in the Finals
***** Are you kidding me? Stats is like the only thing people hold *against* Jordan. I don't even need to bring up stats, I will just point you to the "Top 50 MJ plays of all time". Go and see for yourself. Number 50 on that list on it's own, is better then anything LBJ will ever do...
***** So you've watched MJ live, and you argue me right here... Why? Be as much of a Bird fan as you like, you can't call MJ overrated no matter what conotation you use it in. You call me a "dickrider". Yet, you couldn't be more wrong. I am not a fan of any particular player. I am a fan of a team and, strangely enough, it is the Blazers. You know them? The team that suffered a record-setting 5 three-point half in a finals series? A game *I* attended... It was fun reading your comment though. Cheers man, nice try.
remember during 2003 after the surgery, at age 40 he's still a top 5 player in the NBA and still kicking every young asses NO ONE ELSE HAS EVER DONE THAT . .. #goat
For years Jordan kept playing into their hands. If there was one good thing about the triangle it was the emphasis on the outside jumper. Jordan was being single-guarded by Vinnie and Joe on the wing. He could have shot over them whenever he wanted.
Michael Jordan at 7:18, gives John Paxson the assist, something we didn't see very much of at this point in his career. It was not until Phil Jackson took over as the head coach, and along with assistant coach Tex Winter, implemented the triangle offensive philosophy, and made it tougher for Detroit to carry out the Jordan Rules.
Jordan's optimal prime weight in his own words was 218. In the second run with the Bulls and later Wizards he ranged between 220-225. Jordan was a toothpick because modern weight training hadn't been introduced yet. Have you seen rookie Karl Malone and 2004 Karl Malone? Huge difference.
no player wins by themselves but there are role players, good players, and special once-in-a-lifetime players that are that leaders of their team. Players like Magic,Kareem,Larry, Wilt,MJ are those players and thats why we remember them and call them the greatest.
This video right here is a PRIME EXAMPLE of why the league got rid of the “illegal defense” rule... It was ineffective.. and that because it simply wasn’t enforced consistently enough..
what I love about MJ is that he kept going to the basket, going in the paint
Lebron probably would have been smart and kicked it to the wide open man rather than try to force a bad shot over the whole pistons team. Jordan kicks occasionally but most of the time he tries to take low percentage heavily contested layups. No wonder he takes a beating, the pistons players know he’s gonna put his head down so it gets pretty predictable.
But he didn't have the supporting cast he would gain when Phil Jackson implemented a new offensive philosophy - the triangle offense, and it was no longer almost always him who would attempt shots.
Andrew Spinney how you can pass the ball when your teammates harassing from getting the ball this is a different game idiot there’s a handchecking
@@andrewspinney7502 That's just how LeBron plays, he passes instead of taking pressure shots. He has no killer instinct especially in clutch crucial moments.
you’re acting like its impressive when its smarter to just learn how to shoot a DAMN 3 and make them press up so there isnt a logjam in the paint.
I’m from Detroit and at that time I must admit I was biased towards the Pistons. After watching some of these old videos of Micheal Jordan I have to admit he was the greatest player I’ve ever seen. The Pistons played hard nose and sometimes dirty basketball, but Mike just kept coming back until he eventually defeated them. That takes mental and physical toughness hats off to Mike
The main part of ur comment is he kept coming back until he beat them! He didn’t give up, ask to be traded, ask for other superstars, he worked his ass off to get better as a player and as leader. Can’t say the same for most superstars.
@@multiplepassions3694 today in the 30 mid 30 some change every year the team that in the 80 and 90 dont happen so much ! and some plays gets today a whistle 4 sure in the kiddie nba were in. would like to see what the Pistins from end 80 do with the doncod guy, he gets whining to the reff ,-))
Yeah, I'm a Detroit fan too, but even back then, I knew Jordan was the best. It's really saying something that the Pistons were even able to slow him down SOMEWHAT. It tells you both how good Jordan was, and how good the Pistons defense was! (thanks in no small part to Joe Dumars, a seriously underrated player and great defender!)
Sometimes dirty???? They literally cheated cause they couldn’t beat him bud ll
Well, I'm from Chicago and absolutely hated the Pistons of that era. But no denying they were outstanding -- can't generate that kind of passionate hate without being pretty good.
And this is why Jordan is the GOAT
this is why Jordan was and is the GOAT, scoring while triple-teamed time and time again.
xinkspillx You think other players weren't "triple teamed also"? Some were quadruple teamed and still produced. Not to mention, Bird and Magic both had to go through much better comp just to get to the Finals than Jordan. Then they had to face each other (Bird vs Magic) to be the champ. . .
Who did Jordan have to go through, lol? When Jordan faced a Boston team with Bird in his prime, he got swept. When he faced a Detroit team in their prime, he got massacred. It wasn't until these teams were old and injured that Jordan began winning.
Chris Kavanagh listen man, I hear you ... but just about every damn possession he was triple-teamed and scored every time.
xinkspillx
True. I'm not saying Jordan wasn't great, he was. I'm just saying I don't believe he's the greatest ever. . .
If I could pick whomever I wanted for my team in their prime, Jordan wouldn't be the first or second.
Chris Kavanagh really? - pretty interesting - I could see him not being on your first team though ... but who would your two starting 5s be just to break it down for me.
xinkspillx
I haven't thought that out quite yet. Give me a few days. . .
I can promise you, the first two would be Magic and Bird, though.
I counted like 5000 fouls in today's terms in this vid... In retrospect, the only thing this "Jordan Rules" did was make MJ the greatest basketball player of all time... They played them physically, they beat him up on occasion. No problem. He built up his physique. The triple-teamed him? No problem. He learned (the hard way) to pass the ball... Jordan Rules is what elevated him to the next step. To what he is now... He adapted. He worked his ass off and it repaid. He got a clean sweep on them... He IS the greatest because he adapted his game to his own physical condition and to what he could and could not do. This is why he was unstoppable. Even when he was 40 years old he was an excellent basketball player. His body might not be in 100% condition but his mind was 1000 times faster than the kids he played with...
PS: His average numbers during the 3 years stint with the Pistons were still unbelievable even with the "Jordan Rules" defense...
That Pistons team was declining tho while MJ was on the up tick
MikeTheGreat he was already the greatest
When Bulls finally took down the Pistons all their starters were between 27-31....lol and Rodman was dpoy I think. The Pistons got old MYTH is st8 bullshit. Bulls got better and adapted.
@@TheNamesDitto
1991
Isiah Thomas was 29 years
Dennis Rodman was 29 years.
Dumars was 27 years
@@allanhouston6759 Not to mention Bulls aside from MJ was getting better
88- 4-1 Pistons
89-4-2 Pistons
90- 4-3 Pistons
91- 4-0 bulls
they were gonna beat that Pistons team that year no matter what.
I have a new respect for Jordan after watching this. I never got to watch him live, so I didn't know what he went through. Nearly every play on here would be considered a foul these days.
Hubert Cumberdale I’ve seen them all since Magic....MJ is by far the most impressive athlete/player the NBA has ever had. Basketball skill set and physical attributes are unmatched 🤷🏻♂️✌🏼
James’s harden has enter the chat
Yeah I grew up in Chicago in the Jordan era. How I hate LeBron is how imagine Jordan was hated by everyone else.
After seeing teams play actual defense?
This is such shit
@@alansalgado2740 Actually no...jordan was loved.💯💯💯
This makes no sense to me when people say that MJ did not play against zone defense and he would not be able to play his style of play in today's NBA. The man played against the zone and broke it down. Players did play zone on those days.
Zone defense wasn't allowed in Jordan's era. Back then, they called it an illegal defense. The video didn't clarify, but illegal defense was to have one defender far from his man in order to double a player without the ball. You're allowed to double team a player with a ball of course. It was slightly masked in this era only bc shooting 3s/ floor spacing wasn't a priority. For example, Scottie only shot 25% and averaged 0.3 3-pointers a game in 1990 (the Bulls' last loss to the Pistons in the Playoffs). Craig Hodges was their best 3-point shooter that year but he was a bench player and played only about 1/3 of the game.
I think Jordan would do great in either era. There's no hand-checking/ physical defense in today's game and there's a 3-second violation. Floor-spacing and 3-point shots would render the defenses to allow Jordan to either penetrate to the basket and score a dunk/ layup or pass to the open shooter if the defense collapses on him (Horace Grant would most likely be shooting 18-20 foot jumpers with consistency and even shoot 2-3 3s a game. Scottie in today's era would shoot 6+ 3s a game as well).
@@kawaiiafangirl The point is that they didn't always call the illegal defense. @3:57 you have 2 people playing Jordan and he didn't have the ball. That was illegal. @2:04 is a zone defense.
@@depannist @ 2:04, the editor wrote that "man to man defense does not mean that you have to stick to your man like glue". I'm sure it happened to a degree from time to time. A ref can't catch everything, just like they don't call a defensive/ offensive 3-second violation all the time in today's game. I see some hand checking sometimes today too but they just aren't called.
depannist
Good man-to-man defense has defensive players two passes away sagging toward the paint for help-side defense while still being able to see their man.
kawaiiafangirl they still have illegal defense it’s called defensive 3 seconds.. wich wasn’t a rule in 90s 80s
Looking at how he still was able to score on these defensive schemes I see why they say he the GOAT
The only reason that worked is because the Pistons knew then coach, Doug Collins, set plays mostly and exclusively around Jordan, and the Bulls did not surround Jordan with good players for him to pass the ball to. Therefore Jordan had to make his best effort to score, even if triple teamed.
pippen still not matured that time, the time pippen got matured it was already "GG"
are you stupid? this same team ended up winning a championship when they did the triangle offence and played more team ball instead of giving all the shots to crybaby please change the rules david stern jordan
Definitely it highlights the lack of offensive talent (certainly in terms of shooting) around Jordan. It also shows some of how the the triangle offense was such a help to Jordan, the cuts and spacing around high post ball position punished this kind of defensive collapse without requiring a lot of good shooters.
3:06 just the way jordan catches the ball was amazing. You got a show everynight with M.J. no matter what
best part of this vid is NO WHINING....if they got physical with you then you would just go harder at them on the other end...grown man ball
i agree this ball is worth of watching rather than some LeFlop cheese
VeriTroll Worthy jr.
seriously?....every era has guys trying to get calls to go their way but not to the extent that they whine today...it's out of control
Verse Arcane
go back and watch a season of games from that era and then come back. we will talk then.
VeriTroll Worthy jr.
lol, a season of games?...who has time for that?
Verse Arcane
well until you watch, you have no room for comment. It seems that many have forgotten the cry baby syndrome players had then.
One of the many great things about Jordan was how he took those flagrant type fouls (by today's weak NBA standards which relies more on refs than player skill) and just kept playing, rarely ever complaining unless he felt someone was out to kill him. What toughness and sportsmanship. And by the way, the Jordan rules only worked when the Bulls had an underdeveloped team with only one true scoring threat.
most of those werent even fouls
+twobigjets Jordan whined about calls more than anyone in NBA HISTORY. Understand that he was being guarded in ALL these footage by guys 5 inches shorter and 20 ounds lighter, like Joe Dumars, Isaiah Thomas, Danny Ainge, Jim Paxson, Kevin Johnson, Hersey Hawkins, and Jeff Malone. Heck, even athletic guards like Ron Harper and Wilkins were shorter than Jordan.
Show me one of those whine moments. Most of the times it was him giving the defending player an earful, not moaning to the refs like LeWhine. Regarding who was guarding Mike, watch the footages of him dunking on Robinson, Ewing, Hakeem, Shaq, Bol, Motumbo, etc...then come again.
Samuel Fernandez Post the Jordan whine videos then. For every one of his (on-court) there are 5 for Lebron.
+Samuel Fernandez. complaining and whining is two different things. lets just be clear. theres a select few players that actually whine. a whiner is someone like cousins or young lebron. if i drive and a guy blatantly slaps me in the back of the head and i look at the ref and say " wheres the fucking foul?" is that whining??
Looking back at these older videos i can tell that the modern NBA has widened the basket circumference.
"He's sensational when he dribbles to his right, he's only great when he goes left." ONLY great?!?!?! LOL. 'Nuff said.
I love how back then the game wasn’t so soft. In today game, theirs would’ve been like 20 fouls.
@@ASHTREY basketball used to be a gentlemen's sport, now Adam Silver recovery this tradition- lack phizically contact, higher pace, more shooting. But maybe it makes doesn't like American style sport, maybe
This was just ridiculously funny!!!! They weren't even paying attention to the rest of the team!!! It was just about him!!!
I cant see any reason why Lebron is being compared with the best athlete ever played in professional sports..
Because he's a better athlete amongst a more athletic era.
Charles Taylor more athletic no doubt, but they aren't better basketball players, not really that close either. The other issue is that LeBron's best attribute is his ability to drive the lane. The 80's and 90's is by far the toughest era to create in the paint. No 3 second violations and a plethora of talented centers. The NBA is severely lacking rim protectors. The #1 center of today would be near the bottom of the top 1 centers of then.
Centers are not the only thing jamming the lane. Zone has allowed defense to be taken to another level. Just look at him against Brooklyn. There were legitimately 4 guys on him at times. And no, there may not be the fundamentals like there used to be, but the average player is better, and either way, it's not "not close." Athleticsm and zone have brought it to that level.
ratings! gotta hype the league up. did the same with kobe and they'll do it with the next.
Sean brunty couldn’t agree more. they needed a poster boy for the league
Lots of teams had a "you wont' score in the pain mentality, not just Detroit vs Jordan. Most had a "you won't get a layup" if it was playoff time.
Chris Kavanagh - exactly. Taking a hard foul a times was part of the game and yo knew which guys had heart. And if there was a cheap play or overtly hard foul committed against your teammate, one of the bigs played enforcer - they'd hit the opposition's guards just as hard to keep the other team in check. It was like baseball when a pitcher hits a batter with his pitch - the other team retaliates in kind. It was war. I miss the intensity and rivalries and fighting spirit teams use to have.
True that "You wont get a layup but I guarantee you gonna lay down if u attack the paint"
Nobody had a plan that had all 5 players reacting and focusing on a single opponent.
A lot of defense plays in this videos were in fact uncalled illegal defense. When I was a young kid watching these games I didn't realise that, but now 30 years later I found it so false to say Jordan didn't face zone defense back then. Pistons' commitment to zoning and double (sometimes even triple) teaming Jordan was really successful and so amazing.
Also there was no defensive 3. It was even more effective back then considering you didn’t have the shooting and spacing bigs that have today
Which proves unequivocally that Jordan wouldn't be as good against zone defense
@@dallinferguson994 how would he not be as good? When they made the rule fully illegal, he averaged 25/6/5 before a meniscus injury. This was in his wizards years as a 38 year old lol
Glad someone knows the game
@@dallinferguson994 Hm how is that? He averaged 30ppg on 50% shooting against the Pistons in the playoffs. And that's with all the physicality,handchecking,no 3sec defensive rule and the whole "Jordan rules" in place. Like 'Big 3' said, a 39/39 year old Jordan was averaging over 25ppg in a very slow paced Era with bum knees before his injury after illegal defense had been banned.
There's so much to learn from MJ and basketball defense in general. Thanks for uploading this!
"Jordan Rules" was literally a zone defense in an era where supposedly no zone defense was played. But like Wilt Chamberlain said, zone defense was always around, legal or otherwise. Always.
Jordan rules were not zone defense, they just double teamed Jordan everytime he got the ball
@@dynamic6645 You MAD LOL
@@dynamic6645 It was 100% a zone. A legit 1v5.
@@dynamic6645 😘
@dynamic6645 there was hidden zone back in the day. Like the video shows on some plays, the defenders would sag off their guys to create a zone around the player they wanna put pressure on. George Karl in his book said that every coach played zone, you just masked it on the weak side so the refs wouldn't call it
And they said Jordan is a better flopper than LeBron.... I'm Sleep
08:56 Jordan took that Elbow like a Man
Mr. Z flopper? Whoever said that is crazy.
Alan Salgado come on bro, Lebron has done a ton of flopping especially back around 2012... he doesn’t flop as much recently but there is 0 doubt that if Lebron took that Elbow at 8:56 he would be on the ground for at least 2 minutes trying to sell the flagrant.
John Griller he’s saying MJ
Piglet Smith Ah i see now. I misunderstood him
Nobody says that
Great ! Absolutely right. MJ's play is a mixture of beauty & artistry in basketball history.
MJ is just so smart on the floor. Always makes the right plays and moves
if you watch the video properly dumbass youll see how many times jordan had someone wide open for a 3 or layup and chose to drive to the basket himself the ball hog
8:56 took that elbow like a a boss. Lebron would’ve been on the floor for 10 minutes
Mad true 😂
Lebron gets hit like that every game but you don’t notice cuz it doesn’t even knock him off balance
@@latortugapicante719lmfao good one. No he doesn't. He got grazed in the eye in the finals and layed down like he got shot
@@latortugapicante719 Facts lmaoo
Thanks for posting this, you did a great job. I would really like to see the game played like this again...
He broke the toughest defense in NBA.
Legendary offensive machine.
*****
oh yeah? Is that why Dennis Rodman still won DPOY that year, Joe Dumars still made the all defensive team, and the Pistons still had the number 1 defense in the league?
nice try though
He never broke them, he only beat them once they got really old and well out of their primes.
they werent' old........Isiah was 29, Dumars was 28, Rodman and Salley were only in the league for 5 years at that point.......cut them sports shows off and stop listening to them cats...Detroit was 2 time defending NBA champions when the Bulls dethroned them.....
they've been brainwashed bad, real bad, and they don't even realize it
They were in year 10+, that is well outside of the prime of mostly any NBA player. The MJ fanatics discard science to keep him on an untouchable pedestal for whatever reason.
wow, This WAS NBA basketball back then, and MJ was almost supernatural. With all the rule changes in the last 20 years, the Pistons defense looks NOW like a chance for a lot of technical free throws for the Bulls !!!
jordan was the reason for a lot of rules changes so he could dominate the sook had to run to david stern
@@noblevisions643 actually the rules changed to avoid teams playing dirty trying to injur players, with Jordan they tried their best and it made the news, they had to do something about it was getting out of hand, nice try bronsexual
Now imagine putting him on a team full of shooters like todays game. Jordan would be unstoppable today
LBJ FANS NOW TRY TO SAY THE HE IS BETTER THAN MJ..LMAO
After 1991, the rules changed, allowing Jordan to go through Detroit)))
@@m23b24 dumbass LMAO
@@m23b24 Sorry to burst your bubble dude but no one was stopping the bulls.
88- 4-1 Pistons
89- 4-2 Pistons
90- 4-3 Pistons
91- 4-0 Bulls. STFU with that shit Bulls worked hard and finally broke through. Pistons was about to 3-Peat and that was the ECF and they got swept.
LeBron mindset is not a for a winner many times I saw LJ give up in final games .....unlike Mj mindset thats the true winner man
He is
Damn I miss the old NBA and when Jordan was playing in the NBA he play against men in his prime but today NBA is kind of soft now!
buster60341 Yea, you breathe on someone and they call a foul nowadays. There's so much stoppage in a game that it's hard to believe today's players are always taking days off for cramps and injuries.
+twobigjets They play more now
+twobigjets uh there was more fouls in the 90's than their are now lol
Yes, more hard fouls and more uncalled fouls. Average game length in 1995-1998 was 132 minutes. Average game length in 2000-2015 is 138 minutes. Players are soft now even though they have more downtime during a game.
+twobigjets or maybe they just play more basketball and less wwe
Yeah I don't see any whining out of Jordan and he still scores with this defense!!!!
Now there's a woman that knows her basketball. Even though you don't remember the Bull's and Bad Boy's Pistons rivalry.
LeBron quit after finding out delante west bent his mama over and quit vs dallas when he found out rashad lewis hit his baby mama
lol
Aaah, back when Delonte West jokes were still relevant/funny
John Griller still are
What defensive pressure and physicality!! you get hit all the time. All 5 players on the floor were on him! Yet still got through double and triple teams while shooting and penetrating against everyone. ! MJ!
I love how in all of these plays especially the first one Jordan not once looked at the ref for a foul. (LeBron)
no but he did write letters to the nba to fine the pistons and had a meeting with david stern complaining and demanding to change the rules 😂😂😂
LeBum would retire from the game.....
Bitch hell no
You never watch him play stfu with ur hating
There is no lebron fans on the vid so whu are u hating
Dumbass.kid
If this was kobe instead people would be all over him saying he's taking bad shots and not using his teammates when they're open. But watching this video you'll know MJ took a lot of "bad" shots like kobe does at time over double teams and forcing them. It's really no different.
He passed quite a lot when he had to. And he only took the bad shots because most of them were on the dying seconds of the shot clock. Kobe shoots when there's still like 15 seconds. As shown conspicuously throughout the video, Jordan never receives the ball first and isolates. He is always part of the play and let's the team do their thing before getting involved. Plus, a lot of the times Mj was trying to draw a foul.
Jordan was a bigger ballhog than Kobe.
Peter Skotta Jordan was a ballhog but he was efficient & Jordan took less moves than Kobe before he makes his shot. Kobe would punk fake u 5-6 times & hold the ball before he took the shot & Jordan would do maybe 2-3 fakes & score on u & didnt hold the ball, Jordan shot the ball a lot & had the ball in his hand a lot but he always scored within the flow of the offense. & Jordan jumped higher & more athletic than than Kobe so he can make inside shots & fadaway shots at ease more than Kobe.
Also Kobe takes more bad 3 point shots than Jordan & Jordan took less 3 point attempts but was able to shoot them at a high percentage even before the NBA moved the 3 point closer to da free throw line, in 89-90 Jordan shot 38% from 3 & 92-93 Jordan shot 35% from 3. Plus, Jordan moved more off the ball than Kobe, Kobe rarely moves off the ball.
Armando Koz you’re right but the numbers show Jordan had an all around better field goal percentage. Where as Kobe wasn’t quite as fundamentally sound as Michael
You know that a player is the best of all time when the other opponent create a specialize defense rule just to stop you.
so you're saying wilt chamberlain is the best of all time because this is basically the same thing that happened to him as well as him being the target of the original "hack a shaq" strategy
one of the reasons michael is the greatest to play he could score on these kinds of defenses and adjust on it most of the time
If a entire team made a rule just to you, you are already a legend
MJ always had a jump shot, he just went to it more as he aged. He did perfect that fade away which became his main weapon late in his career
bruh, the Warriors would have a field day with all those open shooters
+EvilWay123 he would
+EvilWay123 they would throw his little ass around till he got injuried
+Jeremy Bull Like they doing against the Thunder!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA
Warriors don't have a player that would force Pistons to come up with ''X player rules''. They wouldn't protect the paint like that. They'll be man on man. No open shooters for GSW. But that's all besides the point. They'd be injured first couple minutes anyway.
Lol. They would stick to Curry like glue at the 3 point line and maul any of the Warriors who tried to play in the paint. Curry would get ragdolled.
NBA has really gone soft over the years. . Some fouls back in this era are good hard ones to prevent an easy bucket. I mean, the way they foul is dangerous and all but physicality and toughness is in every sports anyway. .
Really just an smh moment how soft the NBA really has become over the years
No one else would continue to go into the paint like that. The man was fearless and willing to take that punishment.
Teams now a days would beat this defense 9/10 times with all the sharp shooters in the league. It's basically a simpler version of Popovich's "Cut the Head off the Snake" defense in which you don't let their best player beat you one on one
Well I wud hope so. This strategy was used 20yr ago. But actually coach Brown's Pistons used this same exact strategy on Kobe & completely shut him down 4 outta 5 games in the finals.
Sharpshooter's?!?! Please shooting is a lost art today
Jordan Roberts u are clearly watching a different game than everyone else. there are WAY more outside shooters in the game today that late 80's and earlier. we have some of the greatest shooters of all-time coming from the mid 90's to current. u provide me a list of shooters from the era you are referring and i will triple it... with ease.
dathvada321 Shooting is definitely not a lost art today from a 3pt shooting perspective, but mid range shooting is down from where it once was. That 15-19ft range isn't mastered like it once was. Ft throw shooting hasn't improved either overall & it isn't as consistent as it once was. Shooting 2day is incredibly streaky 2day when compared to back then also. The game 2night was a prime example. Curry is the only player to shoot over 41% from the 3pt line in his 1st 5 seasons but he may go 2-10 from 3 one game then go 6-9 the next. I've seen a ton of streaky shooters but these player's swings are so drastic it's crazy, but it is fun 2watch tho. Curry is probably my favorite player 2watch when he's on.
dathvada321 I see ur point but it's not impossible at all to win a ring w/o great 3pt shooters on the roster. It's not even really needed honestly. A great defensive team w/consistent, efficient inside scoring & consistent perimeter shooting even w/just mediocre 3pt shooting will destroy a great 3pt shooting run n gun team in a 7 game series everytime. If great 3 pt shooting equalled rings, Steve Nash's Suns & those Suns from the late 80s & early 90s as well as these GS Warriors would have several finals appearances & rings by now. The only reason the Suns in the 90s got to the finals was because of Barkley's inside game & incredible rebounding along w/KJ's insanely efficient pg play & consistent perimeter shooting, (he wasn't a 3pt shooter btw). I saw those early Phoenix Suns teams score 108pts in a half once. I'm pretty sure you can't even imagine a team shooting that good or scoring at that kind of pace, but still that team never even came close to winning a ring. 3pt shooting is just too inconsistent & sporatic because it's too far of a shot to be consistent night in & night out no matter how great the shooters are. Mediocre 3pt shooting with a good consistent defense & an efficient, consistent inside game via post play or a perimeter player who can get inside & finish around the basket efficiently & knock down their FTs will always beat a team that just primarily shoots a ton of 3s in 7 game series & it'll usually just take 5 games to dispose of them.
nice work,we can add that teams played zone defense anyway in the 80's and 90's...and it was common.it was just hidden and that's the reason why it has been allowed by the nba because it slowed down the games because of the number of illegal defense that were being called in every game because of the zone defense.
Jordan would average 40 in his prime with today's spacing
thanks ALOT RON ARTEST
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Man Game.
To be fair to today's players though, the rules were muuuuch different.
You could camp a big man in the paint, and all kinds of perimeter contact was allowed
He is the best player of all time no one will ever match him. Credit to the piston coach and his team tried so much to break him down and it worked. Im not a fan of their tactics but judt shows MJs greatness even more that he must be managed and fouled. What a player, what a mindset.
Jordan had to have amazing stamina to keep running, get open and keep making those shots. Impressive.
I know the Pistons played hard but seeing this, who wants to drive into the paint when you know they'll go hard at you.
In the end, this made Jordan a better player because worked out the next summer to become stronger, better, faster.
When the Pistons & Bulls met, more often than not, Jordan left the court on the losing end. Fact.
Cause piston cheats everytime they played against Jordan. They physically hurt him just to win a title.
+No One cheat?
Well,when Lebron and any team met in the finals so far, he usually leaves the court on the losing end. And they don't even have to triple team him
Ricardo Stewart any team he met, I mean
Had to bring Lebron into this huh?
I think Kobe would survive this era because I think he has the same mentality like MJ but I don't think Lebron can. Lebron whines on every god damn calls he can be punked and bullied he gets irritated with trash talkers.
so true
maybe, LBJ is a product of today's game so naturally you'll see a sissy style game play...MJ was a product of his game of that era, naturally you'll see a ruthless stone cold blooded calculating player
jojo johnson yea i was just thinking this not too long ago, maybe hes just taking advantage of todays nba knowing hell get the calls i mean he is 6'8 250 and he broke his nose and still went for the dunk showing his toughness so idk
whining is one thing. But he rarely gets his calls anyways, and he finishes his shots through contact. Whining afterwards is not the same as being afraid to hit the paint. I doubt Lebrn would have trouble.
Kobe has always hated physical defense.... He whined all game long with Bowen playing him tight.
LeBron is a physical monster, hed thrive in any era... GTFOH.
Excellent video, thank you.
Good stuff. Highlight the beauty of basketball very well.
I think the people saying that the traps could've been countered if Jordan would've just passed are 100% right. The thing is, the Bulls lost those because Jordan didn't want to pass. It took Phil Jackson and the Triangle offense for him to realize that he needed to pass the ball. He did that and BAM! They beat the Pistons
He didn't pass because he didn't feel his team could be trusted. And with Players like dave corzine, bill cartwright, and brad sellers, I honestly couldnt blame him.
Not to mention the rules changed. Without that Jordan probably would've lost to the pistons again.
Jordan wasn't a selfish player. He played point guard for a while and averaged like 11 assists. I agree that passing in these situations would have probably helped some of the time, but I also agree with Yoshi that he didn't have the best players to pass to. I think it was a similar situation with Kobe and Iverson a lot of the time as well.
Lone Star VII The rules did change but I think even if they didn't, the Bulls still would've won that year. Maybe not as easily as they did but they would still have come out victorious because the Piston's Jordan Rules no longer worked against Jordan. Phil Jackson's Triangle Offense pretty much neutralized the Piston's defense along with their master plan against Jordan. By 1991, the Bulls had perfected their Triangle Offense and in full form (They only used portions of the Triangle in 1990) and Jordan was no longer the main focal point of their offense. Also, the Bulls had matured and became much more strong mentally and psychologically. Even Laimbeer and Rodman couldn't throw them off their game with their mental mind games after that.
I disagree, when he gave the ball up they would just hit his teamates as hard or even harder, resulting in turnovers. He didn't pass because he knew they couldn't withstand the contact of detroit, as well as the mental games they played. It took the whole team improving as a whole for them to win, not just mike passing the ball a bit more. Pippen's improvement was the biggest though, he was one of the main problems with his poor play against Detroit until he finally stepped up and improved and figured out how to play them, allowing Jordan to not be tripled and double teamed all the time.
LeFlop will cry every game if he played this era.
hes on a wheelchair after every game and protesting to make the NBA games shorter like 10 games per season and 2 mins per quarter.
Dominic dominic
Lebron = an unskilld loser
Dominic dominic not if he was in the east. between Detroit and bulls alone he would be first round and out. LeBron, just like Kobe were propped up because the NBA losing ratings after MJ retired.
@@supergoat3385 that was lame.
This agree. He can compete you are just saying without any logic only because you hate him.
Great video. The competition Jordan played against and still dominated compared to Lebron is not even comparable. There are no centers today and no defense. Im not a Lebron hater but I watched both of these guys play and MJ is definitely better. Especially game on the line Jordan will find a way to score. Lebron might pass the ball off to someone else. Its just a different mindset
at this time he was still scoring 32 or more ppg at 50% shooting while getting fouled, double and triple teamed.. Meanwhile 1st nba team defense and dpoy and scoring title in the same year.. 35+ ppg/ 7/8..... what the actual fkkk hallelujah! black jesus...
He was swarmed everytime like never before seen. He still balled tf out
so all those drives with 3 players collapsing on him and still taking the shot instead of passing to the open man was smart? o.k
Those of us who watched the Bad Boys physically beat up Jordan in the 80s know the true softness of today's NBA.
Of course the game was more physical back then, but compared to today, a lot of players are slow and unathletic. Can't believe some people used to get paid millions of dollars to stand around and foul jordan
slow and unatheletic???WHAT???
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Great video. That Piston defense made Jordan work every possession. Jordan must of been in tremendous peak shape. Last great defensive team I saw in recent years is the 04 pistons, 08 celtics and the recent bulls teams
I was never a huge MJ fan, though I respected his talent as being a once in a lifetime occurrence.
After watching this again though, I’m convinced that Mike would have averaged 60ppg in today’s game.
i would love to see curry and lebron play in the old era
+SurreallTV yall lame af..... steph curry and lebron wouldve balled anyways.. great players always chase greatness and find ways to adapt and get better . but its stupid af to compare diff eras anyways..its interesting but stupid .
Bron would be fine I believe, Curry because of his body would be an adjustment.
Bron physically would be fine,mentally nah.
don't waste your time trying to educate. these dudes don't understand the concept of adaptation
+j1791m like when people said that wilt can't dominate today's game? heh I can say wilt can score more than 60pts per season
Pistons Follow Jordan every time he touches the ball Pistons play hard defense on Jordan from the Pistons secret Huddle book
If MJ had his fade away back then it would be all over
i remember how physical this pistons lineup were in the past. they really earned the "bad boy" title.
to break a zone, A) you can overload one side of the court to play a numbers game, B) you can collapse the zone by attacking the high post and then either dish or drive depending on how the defense reacts C) You can beat it with good mid range shooting. D) Attack the holes of the zone. Any offense with strong cuts or multiple screens can easily exploit that (San Antonio's offense and Adelman's Princeton offense).
This is why when people mention Pippen and try to use him as a crutch to down play Mj. Just take them to this footage. Cause they knew Pippen was not a player that can single handling beat you. But Mj could! Thats why they let Pippen get his 15 to 20 point's. Knowing Mj could go off for 50 to 60 points!
MJ was DUMB enough to play into their hands. LeBron played with Matthew Dellavedova, Iman Shumpert, J R. Smith, and Tristan Thompson, and took them to the Finals. Jordan couldn't get his team to .500 because he had probably the lowest basketball IQ of any major player, with the exception of Kobe Bryant.
Emmanuel Enyinwa That comment proved your under 30 lol! Cause if you wasn't you would know the league was 10x harder then. And Mj made drafted players good enough to win! Plus you keep forgetting LeBron has lost 4x while mj has never lost lol
Yall youngsters don't know Mj took drafted players, not players that was already good. And made them good enough to win! Not send him Magic, and Bird. But drafted rookies
Orlando Lewis Please STOP! Jordan NEVER ONCE led his team to .500. NOT ONCE. He played 10 playoff games without Pippen, and he won ONE game and lost 9. Think about it: your "GOAT" won ten percent of his playoff games without Pippen. That is LAUGHABLE. Then, Jordan left to play baseball, and Pippen led the Bulls to 55 wins, or 2 less than when Jordan was on the team. Jordan's CAREER record without Pippen is under .500, even during the great Bulls threepeats. This guy is the most GROSSLY OVERRATED player in the history of team sports.
+Emmanuel Enyinwa Number 1 Jordan had just got in the league himself! Every player back then had to grow. That's part of the game. Plus you keep forgetting LeBron didn't win until they sent him to play with already Superstars , Wade,Bosh. They drafted Pippen.And mj made him better! These facts
THE JORDAN RULES
And people call LeBron the goat? Lol he has never seen these traps and triple teams. Never!!! No one fears him..no one plays hard D anymore. Can u imagine Jordan and Kobe not doubled and tripled? Man they both would have scored 50+ a night
Chuck Daly doesn’t get enough credit for this ingenious creation. Michael Jordan was a freak of a player, but to come up with this defensive tactic is just so smart 👍
love this intensity, can't see this in todays nba
Jordan still killed em lol
and still gets finals mvp.
Its scary to think how good he was. Its scary to think how much he would dominate now.
He and Hakeem would just be unstoppable.
StoneageVultures No they would not.
Sparkz302 well....yes they would
+Sparkz302 you're out of your mind aren't you? A 40 yr old jordan was able to put big numbers against young and athletic players like Kobe, Vince Carter, Shawn Marion, Dirk Nowitzki, ron artest (defensive player of the year), and many more. He averaged 20+ppg, 5rbs, 5ast. Who's other player can do that? Doing those things after retiring twice? hahah
who would guard Hakeem in today's game?
You wouldn't want LeBron back in that day, free to be ruff like that. I don't like the guy, but I can tell you right now if he wanted to be outright physical in full beast mode, he would break every fucking bone in your body, and drain you outside the paint. Pick a poison situation. The Pistons would be dealing with a nightmare (A physically amplified jordan that can bulldoze his way into the paint).
And yes, the NBA back in the day in terms of physical aggression makes the current NBA look like Disneyland trip.
On my 12 year old son`s basketball team, the coach said ' Shut out the middle do what ever it takes." A kid whent in for a layup. My son figured he could get a cheap charging foul. The kid came up and plowed him. The reef didn't call it. He gave me a look, and i nodded my head. The kid again goes in for a layup. No pick was even tried. He comes up, and i will tell you, my son`s knuckles got popped in. The kid was knocked out.
It may sound nothing like your story comparing a 12 year old to Lebron James, but the better people never get called for fouls. My son had a miner concussion from the kids knee but no call. The other kid walked away with a bump. How do i know, his rich ass parents where gonna sue us.
LeBron is strong physically but weak mentally so I think the pistons would break him down. Karl Malone was huge but Rodman got in his head
LeBron would just flop.
_Battlefield-_-Ruler_ and cry
themidnightorb He'd cramp up or disappear when the going gets tough.
Thank you and God bless
I am part of the 90s but I am with you bro. Hands DOWN!
After watching the commentary, I thought I would see "poor" Michael Jordan taken off on a stretcher. It was whining like this that made the NBA change the rules and water it down so Jordan and the Bulls would start winning titles. For all the talk about "the tough 90s" Jordan played in, he was 0 for that era, as the Pistons owned the Bulls. It was in the watered down league--with the 3 point line moved in--that Jordan and the Bulls actually won anything. And, for the record, Jordan was bigger and way more gifted physically than EVERY guard the Pistons had--Isaiah, 6-1, Dumars, 6-2, Vinnie Johnson, 6-2.
+Emmanuel Enyinwa Dumars was not 6'2" and was 89 finals mvp, 4x all defensive first. The internet is available to you too for this sort of player research. smdh. jeangalvanis.net/wp-content/uploads/galvanis-net/sites/218/Thomas-and-Dumars.jpg
+Emmanuel Enyinwa watered down? hahaha!
+Emmanuel Enyinwa cleary you didn't saw Jordan play the 90s knicks
I saw him play the 90s Knicks. 90% of the time, he was guarded by a 6-2 CBA player named Jon Starks, who had ZERO moves off the dribble, and whose only "offense" was throwing up three pointers, even though he was a 35% career three point shooter. The Knicks had a 6-5 power forward named Anthony Mason, who was also a CBA player and a 6-4 small foward named Charles Oakley, who couldn't shoot either. The Knicks topped this up with an aging VERY skinner center who had both knees scoped, and who could make SOME shots, but barely could post up against 7-2 inch, 270 pound center, Bill Cartwright. The Bulls also had 6-8 Hall of Famer Scottie Pippen, 6-8 power forward Horace Grant, who had one of the highest PERs for his position for the period. The Bulls would absolutely SHUT DOWN the Knicks EVERY crunch time--with the help of the officials, who usually turned their backs on the Bulls just clobbering the Knicks while Jordan paraded to the free throw line every time 6-2 Jon Stark or 6-2 Doc Rivers so much as breathed on him. Yes, I saw those series.
+Emmanuel Enyinwa Yeah and they made the playoffs every year, still give Jordan a really hard time, made it into the Finals, Ewing a Hall of Famer, beat Reggie Miller in some classic series and are one of the most respect it team of the 90s. Oh yeah poor old weaklings New York Knicks
Let's be real
These 80's defense didn't have to cover up the 3pts line as much as today's game
Hell they didn't even guard the 3pts line
This defense looked good because you were playing against a driving into the lane old school inside game
What would happen if they had to guard the perimeter and 3pts line as well?
Their legs would burn out trying to keep up to all those 3pts shooter we have nowadays
From position 1 to 4 we are shooting 3pts nowadays and even some 5 are starting to shoot 3pts as well
Good luck figuring that out
+Welen aja Exactly. People get nostalgic so it prevents them from finding any fault with 80s defense. But they weren't even allowed to play floating zone, so it was easier to time attacks at the rim because the big man wasn't just standing there.
This is exactly why today's elite teams have such deep rotations. It's because they're running miles more per game trying to run out at shooters. For MJ it was a simple as driving: if the defense collapsed on him, he kicks to a WIDE OPEN shooter; if not, he'd have a dunk.
+Welen aja The physicality prevented soft play-styles like Stephen Curry from getting away with murder. Take the recent Spurs vs. Warriors game for example: All the Spurs did was overwhelm Curry with with traps and presses, stayed with him all game long and he missed alot of shots. He was tired and frustrated because he can't create his own shots as good as an MJ or Reggie Miller. As soon as refs take the whistles out of their mouths the Warriors and any soft play-style is subject to vulnerability. It's not nostalgia, but rather common sense. A Stephen Curry type player is in no way exposed to this type of pressure or physicality.
+EnduringArts Curry can't create his own shots as good as Miller? Is that a joke? He got shut down in one game by the best defensive team in the league with the best coaching. He may not be able to dominate the league in the past era, as he would now due to more physical defenses, but you can bet your money he still would have a much greater career than Reggie Miller - he is simply a much better player.
+Welen aja lol you kids. today's 3 point shooters will get murdered in the 80's and 90s... the only reason we have so many 3 point shooters nowadays is only because of the bullshit "no hanchecking'' rule... not to mention the fact that the 3 point distance was shortened... people keep forgetting how far people like Larry Bird had to shoot to drain a 3 pointer.... you think Curry would be any good back then?? SMFH jog on young fella
+Begging Juliet lmao ikr! I got it "figured it", it's called HAND CHECKING & curry's (who's my boi!!) lil ass would get popped!
It’s simple they knew he wasn’t going to pass
yeah jordan fans can't accept it
Wrong idiot MJ averaged 6.3 assists per game in that season
So basic things that they teach you in 1st grade? Make them go weak side, cut off baseline, and help side defense. Wow this is so new!
+Chase Hutchins defense was invented in the 80s? Ehhhh
No Lebron rules
Jordan rules the real goat of basketball 🐐
This vid is so dumb yea jordan was so good ? Funny how he always had 2 teammates open but didn't use them might aswell just have him and pipped out there te rest can sit on the bench
Were you paying attention at all? The Pistons rotation does not allow him to pass, since they play a loose man to man defense, and they can just go back to their man if MJ kicks the ball out to them. But no, you can just throw that "ball hog" bs around like saying: "Hello".
Take out a notepad and pen, and take notes....
Funny how Lebron has never averaged more than 8 apg in a playoff season, something Jordan did twice
Funny Lebron never averaged 7.5 apg in the Finals, when MJ averaged 11.4 in 1991 - and no player since 91 has reached 10 apg in the Finals
***** Are you kidding me? Stats is like the only thing people hold *against* Jordan. I don't even need to bring up stats, I will just point you to the "Top 50 MJ plays of all time". Go and see for yourself. Number 50 on that list on it's own, is better then anything LBJ will ever do...
***** So you've watched MJ live, and you argue me right here... Why? Be as much of a Bird fan as you like, you can't call MJ overrated no matter what conotation you use it in.
You call me a "dickrider". Yet, you couldn't be more wrong. I am not a fan of any particular player. I am a fan of a team and, strangely enough, it is the Blazers. You know them? The team that suffered a record-setting 5 three-point half in a finals series? A game *I* attended...
It was fun reading your comment though.
Cheers man, nice try.
***** Pointless arguing with you. You are so far up your own ass, you can't hear or read...
hahahahhaahahaha this is tough Defense???? this is what all current high schools do lol
***** i never said they weren't hard working...
remember during 2003 after the surgery, at age 40 he's still a top 5 player in the NBA and still kicking every young asses NO ONE ELSE HAS EVER DONE THAT . .. #goat
A Tribe Called Quest James Harden is today's defense. js
That three pointer was crazy, clutching left and right just so he can take the shot of
0:50 So this is a good shot? Three players surround you and you take a smothered contested shot?
Jordan simply amazing
Look at jordan man, so inspirational
Best RUclips video ever.
For years Jordan kept playing into their hands. If there was one good thing about the triangle it was the emphasis on the outside jumper. Jordan was being single-guarded by Vinnie and Joe on the wing. He could have shot over them whenever he wanted.
Michael Jordan at 7:18, gives John Paxson the assist, something we didn't see very much of at this point in his career. It was not until Phil Jackson took over as the head coach, and along with assistant coach Tex Winter, implemented the triangle offensive philosophy, and made it tougher for Detroit to carry out the Jordan Rules.
Jordan's optimal prime weight in his own words was 218. In the second run with the Bulls and later Wizards he ranged between 220-225.
Jordan was a toothpick because modern weight training hadn't been introduced yet. Have you seen rookie Karl Malone and 2004 Karl Malone? Huge difference.
no player wins by themselves but there are role players, good players, and special once-in-a-lifetime players that are that leaders of their team. Players like Magic,Kareem,Larry, Wilt,MJ are those players and thats why we remember them and call them the greatest.
Beautiful coaching strategies and player execution on the defense
Now this explains a lot why he is the Greatest of all time.
Jordan would shoot 18-23 for 55 points every game in today's NBA.
This video right here is a PRIME EXAMPLE of why the league got rid of the “illegal defense” rule...
It was ineffective.. and that because it simply wasn’t enforced consistently enough..