Thanks for the video. I have the same TV. You have a nice setup. The AV receiver that I have is the Marantz SR5008. It is an older unit and does not have hdmi 2.1 nor Earc, just Arc. Denon and Marantz are from the same company. I will check my settings to see if I need to adjust the hdmi options. Thanks for the info.
Thank you so much for this video! I have an HTCP with a gaming video card, and I was having the same problem with low output. I thought it was a pc problem, software, hardware, took me two days of pulling my hair out! thank you again!!!!
Thanks bro you solved two problems for me just purchasing a Vizio Q6 connected to my Yamaha would not bring my on screen menu up unless I changed input and the sound level is now the way I want it
Thanks for the solution! Had the same eARC issue on my Denon and I tried everything! I agree it didn't make sense but an unexpected outcome to a problem that also didn't make sense seems fair. Go figure! Thank you for being curious and experimenting! I'm able to tweak the speaker levels accurately and it sounds great!
Thanks for the video. As a matter of fact, I had been doing the same for the pasted 3 months. I have Shield connected to a Denon receiver via HDMI, then Denon to TV via HDMI. This set up has not changed for over 3 years. Initially, I don't have any sound problem. Slowly, I noticed the sound level is getting lower and lower. 3 months ago, I changed the "Input Source" level on the Denon exactly like you suggested in the video. This is a good work around since I could not solve the root problem which should be with the Shield, not the receiver. In the last few days, I started Googling again for this same problem because the sound level got lower again. Your solution does not help any more because there is no further work around with the Denon.
That is really odd and had not heard of this problem. Have you tried a different hdmi cable? Once I changed mine it has been fine ever since. Hope you are able to figure it out!
I have just purchased a Yamaha RX A4A, as soon as I connected everything up and turned it on the volume was set to -40, when I put a movie in and played it I had to have the volume at -20, doing what you did I end up with the volume being set to -30. It's appalling if I set the volume to -50 which is halfway I can't hear much at all. Why is the volume so rubbish
Unfortunately it's just the way the manufacturers set the gain levels with Hdmi inputs for these receivers. I bet if you used the toslink optical cable your results would be the opposite. I wish there were a way to gain match the I/O similar to how car audio is done. For now this is the only way I have found to help this issue 🤷
You mentioned in one of the posts that if you turned the source input up above a certain point (10 was it?) you got distortion... 1) Why does this happen? 2) Is there *any* reason that one would not want to turn the source input up (for example does it place a higher demand on the Denon? If yes, which part of the Denon? etc. etc.)?
This mainly happens because I have an amplifier. In my case the gains should be level matched with an oscilloscope. Unfortunately I do not have one so I'm forced try to do it by ear. In my case everything sounded good below +10db if I remember right. Hope this helps 🍻
@@T_B_C_LThank you! I have an amp hooked up to my Denon to run three fronts (the rest are run off the Denon). I've found that a number of apps on an Apple TV 4K (Disney + in particular) seem to have very low volume levels and I have to turn the Denon up to 0 (reference) and it is still not *that* loud. I used the method in your video, but only went up to about +4 as I still am not totally clear on the answer to question 2 above ;-). I'm just glad you posted this. And would love any extra information you can give about question 2.
@@ABG2412 as far as question 2, many users mistake volume or output for gain or source level. Lots of equipment will clip (have distortion or square sign wave) at a certain level usual above 75% volume. Most higher end equipment does not have this issue. This level of clipping can be amplified by an amplifier. In my case I'm running hdmi from my nvidia sheild to my TV back to my Denon to my amplifier and finally out the speaker wires to the speakers. Hdmi cables are used for every connection except from denon to amplifier. The source signal starts at the nvidia sheild and may have a lower initial gain via hdmi then something like an optical cable. This will make the user feel like the volume needs to be up much higher than it really needs to be. This is exactly the reason for this video. I basically increased the gain on the denon to compensate for a lower signal level. This gives the user the ability to increase volume or output quicker in the same volume range. Some of this is science and some of it is good Ole placebo. In the end I feel much better at the output I'm getting with a lower volume settings. I hope this helps.
@@T_B_C_L Appreciate it. Thank you! I have been trying to understand how the signal level "boosts" the output and the implications of raising it through this form of "gain" vs. turning the volume up. Yes on clipping concern. I actually lock my volume on the Denon to not go above "0"...
Hey man cool vid I tried it on my Denon AVR-S760H with no luck. I bought this receiver to replace my old 7.1 Onkyo from 2011 I have it hooked up by arc to my TV and the volume is extremely low. Have to crank up the tv volume in the 55-65 range to barely hear. For reference with my Onkyo the TV was in the 20s for good listening. Any other tips before I return this receiver? I'll be trying another HDMI cable tonight
@@LitoSRT8 hmmm that's doesn't sound right. So do you have all your inputs (Xbox, bluray player, sat/cable, ect) going to your TV and then Earc back to the receiver via hdmi cable? This is the way I have mine. You need to make sure you are changing the digital option to optical on the TV source of the denon so that it increases the earc input source.
@@T_B_C_L currently I only have my tv hooked up to the receiver no other devices connected to the tv. I believe I have the Denon tv input source to arc.
@@LitoSRT8 OK so you are using your smart TV apps I'm guessing. Setting the digital source settings to optical on the TV source and then adjusting the digital source level is how I adjusted mine. In theory yours should work the exact same.
Thanks for this but boosting the signal even at 6db sounds aweful on my Denon avr. wish there was an alternate fix, thinking of getting a new hdmi sound card for pc
Yea that sucks man. Honestly I don't understand why this is even an issue. If I hook up via optical, the gain is so much higher. I did test mine with music up pretty loud and mine is good up to I believe 9db, if I go 12db I can hear some distortion. I've been on this setting for the better part of 3 years without issue. The lower signal level is frustrating so I hope you get it figured out.
@@T_B_C_L ah cheers man, yeh it certainly is a weird one, thanks for your insight, really interesting how optical is stronger, might give that a go 🤔🤔 🤜🏻
I don't think it is the TV. It has low volume even if I go straight to the receiver. I think the voltage output on the hdmi is just very low but I'm no expert. This is just my thoughts after dealing with high and low level outputs in the car audio for such a long time. All I know is, for me, adjusting that setting helped alot. 🍻
I have a Sony Bravia 65” and I Swear To The Lord Upstairs that it’s getting quieter and quieter. Some music I’m at almost zero to +4 to get a decent signal using apps on my Sony Tv to my Denon receiver. WTH is going on?! I’m so sick of it!
I'm not sure issues are related but my Sony just kept getting slower and slower with every update. Almost as if they were trying to make the TV obsolete, as to force you into a new one. Well I did end up picking up an LG 77" C9 oled and it has worked pretty much flawless for last 3 years. Good luck with your issue, hope you figure it out.
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So many thanks !! ;)
Having no other sources on the 7007, i had no clue this could fix the low sound ! :)
Awesome man glad the video helped! 🍻
Wow you totally figured it out - your solution worked for me, thank you thank you!
Awesome, glad it help you out!
Thanks for the video. I have the same TV. You have a nice setup. The AV receiver that I have is the Marantz SR5008. It is an older unit and does not have hdmi 2.1 nor Earc, just Arc. Denon and Marantz are from the same company. I will check my settings to see if I need to adjust the hdmi options. Thanks for the info.
Thx for the positive comment and cheers to awesome home theater equipment. 🍻
Thank you so much for this video! I have an HTCP with a gaming video card, and I was having the same problem with low output. I thought it was a pc problem, software, hardware, took me two days of pulling my hair out! thank you again!!!!
I know the pulling your hair out all to well...lol. Glad the video helped 🍻
This option was open for me, thanks it worked great 😊
Nice 👍
Thanks bro you solved two problems for me just purchasing a Vizio Q6 connected to my Yamaha would not bring my on screen menu up unless I changed input and the sound level is now the way I want it
Awesome, glad it helped 🍻
Thanks for the solution! Had the same eARC issue on my Denon and I tried everything! I agree it didn't make sense but an unexpected outcome to a problem that also didn't make sense seems fair. Go figure! Thank you for being curious and experimenting! I'm able to tweak the speaker levels accurately and it sounds great!
Awesomeness, glad the video helped 😊
Works like a charm. Using denon avr-x2700h and LG OLED77GX6LA
Nice setup and Glad the video helped you out. 🍻
Thanks for the video. As a matter of fact, I had been doing the same for the pasted 3 months. I have Shield connected to a Denon receiver via HDMI, then Denon to TV via HDMI. This set up has not changed for over 3 years. Initially, I don't have any sound problem. Slowly, I noticed the sound level is getting lower and lower. 3 months ago, I changed the "Input Source" level on the Denon exactly like you suggested in the video. This is a good work around since I could not solve the root problem which should be with the Shield, not the receiver. In the last few days, I started Googling again for this same problem because
the sound level got lower again. Your solution does not help any more because there is no further work around with the Denon.
That is really odd and had not heard of this problem. Have you tried a different hdmi cable? Once I changed mine it has been fine ever since. Hope you are able to figure it out!
You can change it without switching TV inputs. Pressing setup and navigating watching the front display on your AVR. Had the same problem
You are absolutely right, I wish I would have thought of that when I made the video! 🍻
I just did this and it worked! You guys rock!
Thank you!!!
You're welcome!
my reciever has a gain setting i turn it all the way up on my tv and switch only goes to plus 6db though
Not all the same I'm guessing.
I have just purchased a Yamaha RX A4A, as soon as I connected everything up and turned it on the volume was set to -40, when I put a movie in and played it I had to have the volume at -20, doing what you did I end up with the volume being set to -30. It's appalling if I set the volume to -50 which is halfway I can't hear much at all. Why is the volume so rubbish
Unfortunately it's just the way the manufacturers set the gain levels with Hdmi inputs for these receivers. I bet if you used the toslink optical cable your results would be the opposite. I wish there were a way to gain match the I/O similar to how car audio is done. For now this is the only way I have found to help this issue 🤷
You mentioned in one of the posts that if you turned the source input up above a certain point (10 was it?) you got distortion...
1) Why does this happen?
2) Is there *any* reason that one would not want to turn the source input up (for example does it place a higher demand on the Denon? If yes, which part of the Denon? etc. etc.)?
This mainly happens because I have an amplifier. In my case the gains should be level matched with an oscilloscope. Unfortunately I do not have one so I'm forced try to do it by ear. In my case everything sounded good below +10db if I remember right. Hope this helps 🍻
@@T_B_C_LThank you! I have an amp hooked up to my Denon to run three fronts (the rest are run off the Denon). I've found that a number of apps on an Apple TV 4K (Disney + in particular) seem to have very low volume levels and I have to turn the Denon up to 0 (reference) and it is still not *that* loud. I used the method in your video, but only went up to about +4 as I still am not totally clear on the answer to question 2 above ;-). I'm just glad you posted this. And would love any extra information you can give about question 2.
@@ABG2412 as far as question 2, many users mistake volume or output for gain or source level. Lots of equipment will clip (have distortion or square sign wave) at a certain level usual above 75% volume. Most higher end equipment does not have this issue. This level of clipping can be amplified by an amplifier. In my case I'm running hdmi from my nvidia sheild to my TV back to my Denon to my amplifier and finally out the speaker wires to the speakers. Hdmi cables are used for every connection except from denon to amplifier. The source signal starts at the nvidia sheild and may have a lower initial gain via hdmi then something like an optical cable. This will make the user feel like the volume needs to be up much higher than it really needs to be. This is exactly the reason for this video. I basically increased the gain on the denon to compensate for a lower signal level. This gives the user the ability to increase volume or output quicker in the same volume range. Some of this is science and some of it is good Ole placebo. In the end I feel much better at the output I'm getting with a lower volume settings. I hope this helps.
@@T_B_C_L Appreciate it. Thank you! I have been trying to understand how the signal level "boosts" the output and the implications of raising it through this form of "gain" vs. turning the volume up. Yes on clipping concern. I actually lock my volume on the Denon to not go above "0"...
@@ABG2412 I also lock my volume at 0 but it's mainly to avoid my teenage boys from going crazy on my equipment.. 😂
sure your not changing your audio optical in/out?
I'm not understanding your question?
Hey man cool vid I tried it on my Denon AVR-S760H with no luck. I bought this receiver to replace my old 7.1 Onkyo from 2011 I have it hooked up by arc to my TV and the volume is extremely low. Have to crank up the tv volume in the 55-65 range to barely hear. For reference with my Onkyo the TV was in the 20s for good listening. Any other tips before I return this receiver? I'll be trying another HDMI cable tonight
So you were actually able to adjust the digital source level but it did not make a difference?
@@T_B_C_L correct I cranked it it +12db and no noticeable difference
@@LitoSRT8 hmmm that's doesn't sound right. So do you have all your inputs (Xbox, bluray player, sat/cable, ect) going to your TV and then Earc back to the receiver via hdmi cable? This is the way I have mine. You need to make sure you are changing the digital option to optical on the TV source of the denon so that it increases the earc input source.
@@T_B_C_L currently I only have my tv hooked up to the receiver no other devices connected to the tv. I believe I have the Denon tv input source to arc.
@@LitoSRT8 OK so you are using your smart TV apps I'm guessing. Setting the digital source settings to optical on the TV source and then adjusting the digital source level is how I adjusted mine. In theory yours should work the exact same.
Is it boosting just the center channel?
It works for all channels
Thanks for this but boosting the signal even at 6db sounds aweful on my Denon avr. wish there was an alternate fix, thinking of getting a new hdmi sound card for pc
Yea that sucks man. Honestly I don't understand why this is even an issue. If I hook up via optical, the gain is so much higher. I did test mine with music up pretty loud and mine is good up to I believe 9db, if I go 12db I can hear some distortion. I've been on this setting for the better part of 3 years without issue. The lower signal level is frustrating so I hope you get it figured out.
@@T_B_C_L ah cheers man, yeh it certainly is a weird one, thanks for your insight, really interesting how optical is stronger, might give that a go 🤔🤔
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its probally the tv i have an lg and i do the same thing i have issues with certain shows especially kids ones
I don't think it is the TV. It has low volume even if I go straight to the receiver. I think the voltage output on the hdmi is just very low but I'm no expert. This is just my thoughts after dealing with high and low level outputs in the car audio for such a long time. All I know is, for me, adjusting that setting helped alot. 🍻
I have a Sony Bravia 65” and I Swear To The Lord Upstairs that it’s getting quieter and quieter. Some music I’m at almost zero to +4 to get a decent signal using apps on my Sony Tv to my Denon receiver. WTH is going on?! I’m so sick of it!
I'm not sure issues are related but my Sony just kept getting slower and slower with every update. Almost as if they were trying to make the TV obsolete, as to force you into a new one. Well I did end up picking up an LG 77" C9 oled and it has worked pretty much flawless for last 3 years. Good luck with your issue, hope you figure it out.
thanku
You're welcome!
@@T_B_C_L the volume increasesd but I feel like I need a better hdmi cable, 2.1.
@@snlsp12 as long as the cable is not super cheap and super long, most hdmi cables will work all the same.
I went and look for this setting on mine was already enable but it was set at 0. I moved it to 9 and it sounds so good now.
Thank you!!!
Awesome, I'm glad this helped you out 🍻