Please tell us when and where you ever sent any aid in Africa?I know intellectually you're challenged and repeating right whinge rhetoric.Please give a single nation where Britain send aid to??? Just 1
@@knowstitches7958 about 50% of our Official Developmental Aid spending goes to African nations. I don't have a problem with it, but to deny its existence is a little dumb.
No . the reason is the money would come from those least able to pay it in the UK, and it would finish up in the pockets of the already wealthy who are promoting reoperations payments.
@@toforgetisagem8145 income tax is a percentage charged from income you generate over a threshold. People in the lowest tax brackets contribute the lowest percentage of their income totaxes, they literally are charged the least. Tax bracket percentages are only charged on money inside their bracket- i.e. anything below that threshold has the previous threshold's level of tax applied.
@@subcitizen2012 Seems we need to make people at school properly educated, the British ended slavery and already paid reparations. Solves the problem of ignorance.
Are you really comparing 4 millennia to a couple of lifetimes ago? And that's just slavery, that doesn't cover how much "soft slavery" they implemented after the abolition of it
No one these days would do anything but condemn slavery. But we cannot pay our way out of history - and how far back would one take this? The sins of the world are many and legion and still ongoing. Can money ever expiate them? There is no way of scrubbing clean the pages of the past by applying money.
@@TheAArmstrong ohhhhhhhhh no it won’t ! Besides which, it Doesn’t matter what YOU say. If the government decides to pay, you’ll have no choice, sunshine! 🤣
No. I'd like to understand the argument as to why other civilisations, which took millions from Africa, but purposely ensured they wouldn't have descendants (meaning no large diaspora of Africans in those former colonial states, unlike the Americas) and also colonised vast areas of the African continent leading to substantially changes to the demographics makeup of those areas, aren't included in this discussion.
they didn't take millions; they were given millions by African warlords in exchange for firearms and gunpowder so that those rulers could catch even more slaves and grow in power
It’s easy to say yes when you’re a middle class snob. If you’re a poor British person you don’t understand where this reparation gets taken from where does this money come from if your whole family line hasn’t seen it . Daft topic JOB 😂
@@KingUSMCO no need to learn a subject I already know, however assuming that I am poor why would I actually care? This is nothing but another grift understanding that if your American then your quite behind in integration of black people amongst white you might not understand that here in Britain black folks have 100% as much right and say as the rest of the country so the race division is fairly minimal. Hence no problem
Romans and vikings don’t exist anymore, the British crown and wealth from empire is in tact and the families who profited from it are still wealthy today. If Caribbeans and their decedents (20m people) were paid out the equivalent of what 3,000 slavers received in reparations, we’re talking £60,000 a head. The longer it goes on the bigger the bill.
@@davidpryle3935 “Fill the cracks in with judicial granite Because I don't say it, don't mean I ain't thinking it Next thing you know, they'll take my thoughts away” - Megadeth
Being a descendent of slaves who now lives is Australia I would say that paying for the wrongs of the past will only widen the divide and create resentments. What should be done instead is factual reeducation of what happened in the past. There’s a lot of things that colonialists overlooked in most cultures they’ve exploited due to their thought that their way were vastly superior. Unfortunately there may be some customs that have died along with the people that were exploited but there are still some that still exist today. example for many years Australian Aboriginal people were over looked because they did not have written historical records much like most of the western world. When they in fact learnt songs and stories which were passed on which was their way of recording history. Their way of life could be key to discovering how more ancient cultures lived … they also had much environmentally friendly farming practices which could solve problems what we face today with our climate change. Embracing other cultures useful practices would be a much better way of rewriting the wrongs of the past.
My ancestors were subjugated by the French rulers for 400 years. I'm still suffering from it today, due to the inherited trauma. Even a quarter of my language changed to be french words. Can you imagine? I want reparations from France for me and my family here in Yorkshire.
In 2022, India overtook the U.K. to become the 5th richest country in the world. Furthermore, if you educate yourself, you’re realise that India is the second largest source of Foreign Direct Investment in the UK. This country does not pay for India’s space program. Furthermore, it’s this country that goes to India with its begging bowl.
I mean when your modern economy was literally built on the enslavement and theft you are indeed. If I steal your wealth and build my life around that, any reasonable person would expect me to be punished..
UK looted $45-60 trillion worth of wealth from INDIA. UK sending money to ngo's which do propaganda for them as far as I know UK is still unable to launch any satellite from its soil.
If you sell entire UK still you won't be able to pay 10% of what you looted from INDIA. It was the world's richest country throughout its history before British came.
Thankfully the argument isnt about "you" but governments and extremely rich families that have profited off of centuries of enacting atrocities on to other nations.
@@neilsmith154 Instead of making all taxpayers pay, the focus could be reparations on those who directly benefited from colonial exploitation, like big corporations and wealthy families with historic ties to that era. A targeted wealth tax on these groups or asking them to contribute directly would put the responsibility where it belongs. Plus, instead of just cash payouts, funding long-term development projects in affected countries to tackle the inequality that still exists today. This way, reparations are more fair and don’t put extra strain on regular taxpayers. I do see where you come from though and that's why I think reparations should take a bit of a backseat in terms of current world issues, but should still be discussed.
This is a nonsensical analogy. Italy != the Roman empire. It doesn't even resemble it. Whereas the same British empire, that invaded & enslaved dark skinned people is in terms of governmental structures still pretty much the same as the United Kingdom. In order for your analogy to work the UK has to break up and form a new country without the ruling elite of the current one. Aka remove the British royals from power.
This was dealt with in 1840 at a rate that by today’s standards would bankrupt the country. We’ve already been through this James centuries ago! Keep up! 😂
@@jeffsimon9594and what he doesn't realise, is that it doesn't actually win any friends.. It wins more hatred and victimhood and lines up an awkward conversation like Starmer is having to have with commonwealth, where we have to say "yeah we recognise our mistakes but you can't be serious about reparations, because we weren't really as bad as some others despite the fact that our prominent speakers and head of church have been saying we were awful for decades.
@@dna9838 ah okay because you only robbed 100 thousand pounds you shouldn't give it back or compensate for it, because there were others that stole a million... That logic is air tight let me know how it goes in court when you try it..
@@carpediem5232 The real problem with these countries is that they've flirted with socialism and no country ever comes back from that e.g. the Manley government in Jamaica.
@@MatthewSmith-j1lThe problem with that is no US government has ever been friendly to any country that wished to go down the route of nationalising industries thst they were previously profiting from. Every country that has tried this has had to contend with coups, assassinations, embargoes, and other disruptions to their local economies. Then once the cold war ended it was the IMF that came with much needed funds which these nations accepted under strict neo liberal rules that just made these nations poorer.
My father was put into a government child home called pitt house school for boys , he deserves reperations but he will never ask ,as reliving the ordeal would be to hard .
@@Pressure-xs6nqPeople get compensation for things that that happened 40 years ago aha. If you don’t think your dad is worth sticking up for, that’s a reflection of you. Don’t tell me not to stick up for mine.
We need to consider the experience of the masses at the time of slavery. A tiny percentage of people with the right to vote. 5 year olds sent up chimneys. Day workers trampled to death seeking dock works. Should their descendents receive reparations? All from the descendents of the few. When do I get my money?
Imagine you applied this logic to every situation you encountered in life. "Oh you're going to give that dying man CPR?!? Really? Don't you know there's millions of people dying in Africa so you helping this specific guy right now is actually somehow bad!?" "Oh you're going to pay out a class action lawsuit to thousands of people who were hurt by a company, don't you know that lots of other people were hurt by a different company too! Everyone knows you can either fix every problem simultaneously, or no problems at all!"
I think the reparation issue deserves discussion, but firstly calculate the amount to be paid and divide it by the number of the population, then as a starter, allow those who feel strongly about this to voluntary pay their contribution……James, you can go first.
Nobody needs to ask what kind of person you are. I am from the Caribbean and I don't advocate for reparations for slavery or colonialism. But I suggest you research neo-colonialism. Your lot never truly let us go!
No, but an apology would go a long way. Tax payers in the UK today, have no connection with the practice. If some payment is deemed necessary take it from the corporations/families that profited from it and still have some of that profit on hand. That is going to be a hard proof to make.
There are still some companies in the UK that treat workers from other countries badly only because those from outside the UK work hard and do everything to make the service better and those from the UK think they will exploit the visitors,unfortunately those times are over, no one will let themselves be humiliated and treated like trash.
James is right about one thing actually. Don't go against your own interest. Giving billions to refugees and losing billions to corrupt african charities is against our interest but I am guessing James won't talk about it.
Im so over James, its so boring and childish the way he insults everyone with a different opinion to him. As far as i am concerned James will change his opinion to suit the socially acceptable viewpoints that enable him to bully amd belittle others. Thats why early in his career his opinion was the opposite to what it is today, its not because he has grown as a person, its because the old points no longer allow him to belittle others so he can feel morally superior. Fyi i came on board as a new listener during Brexit but i literally now have to turn him off. I keep giving him another chance but every show its the same belittling attitude 🙄
It seems your ideas are the ones in vogue. If he wants your social acceptance, than why doesn't he capitulate to your majoritarian ideas of not doing anything for anyone? He says he's grown as a person, so why not let him speak for himself? Seems like you have an issue with telling people how to think. If you don't want to be belittled, then get some bigger beliefs. It's not that hard, not rocket science, you just need to develop as a person and wander yourself into some information that will boost your IQ. Everything you're whining about is your own choice, just like a brexiter.
1000% false. If J'O'B were just going with the most popular opinion he wouldn't be telling you how Israel is repeating 1940's Germany every week. But he is a moral person who will say unpopular things because they're true, so he does.
Why should I pay reparations from my tax? Maybe I can claim reparations from Germany for the generational damage World War Two did to my family? Britain should be proud of its empire not shameful at some of the negative parts conducted by elements of the ex empire. Britain ended slavery at great expense decades before other nations. The USA clung to slavery a long time after they Brits abolished it. Try banging on the door of the White House for reparations.
@@markac8 who says it would come from taxation? My understanding is the majority of slaves were owned by private individuals, many descendants of whom still sit on piles of cash today. I doubt you could trace everything, but it’s not really a secret who owned them and who inherited from those owners. Britain should definitely not be proud of its empire at all. If Britain were conquered today, would you congratulate the conquerors? Odd
About the singing in the shower. It is evolutionary. It's about confined spaces. In the shower you often have your eyes closed and your hearing detects an enclosed space. Your instinct is to make noise to hear the echos, giving you an idea of what was around you. Kind of a very simple sonar. It was useful in caves and in the dark. Qualifications? Made it up
Don't pay reparations. Just take people from countries you colonised and stole resources from, into your country to live and work should they not be able to do so in their countries. Simple.
I wouldn't like reparations but I would like an apology from the British Government for causing the deaths of a million people in my country. Other than that what can Britain really do? It cannot even look after itself at present.
Well done James. Challenging the liars and asking them for the evidence. And not moving on until they produce the evidence. It's a solid tactic which exposes these grifters
10:59 its a tactic as old as the first leader of a settled community having abused his power saying "hey look guys you know that tribe over the hill? it was actually THEIR FAULT IT WAS THEM THEM THEM lol .. the weird sad depressing thing is that some how the oldest con it history still seems to work ...
It doesn't matter that much but for once it would be nice to see the table is turned because we know Britain would be bankrupt paying for reparations. Britain is not that prosperous ...😢
The british empire isnt something to be proud of.the subjacating of other countries and plundering their resources.and do you think poor and working class people benefitted from the british empire.cos i think not.the poor had to know their place.
Yes please. As a white british working class peasant my ancestors were no doubt slaves at some point, if not treated worse than slaves through many generations. So give me money please...... Oh im white so it doesnt count... silly me... i thought this was about equality...... silly silly me
Reparations would open a Pandoras box and then everyone would want a piece of Britain when they don't deserve it. The 'fools' are the ones who have stoked this nonsense over decades, people who think that relentlessly mea culpa'ing will win friends and influence people. It hasn't. It just gives fuel for bad actors to stoke resentment in developing countries. J
There could be cultural and economic reparations, in the form of economic development like water and new roads. The islands were under developed after slavery, and need basic engineering infrastructure, to which the UK could contribute. New school roofs, drainage, etc, should be what restorative justice means. Cheques to governments or individuals are not on. However, O'Brien is so convinced that his narrow view of things is 'correct' that nuance isn't something he understands. Insult is his only way of arguing anything.
14:47 wait what is the implication there lol? That Ireland was a happy ally to the British working merrily for then? I really appreciate how far James has come in recent years in terms of social awareness but there are a few relics of his old self/pockets of ignorance. Unless I'm misunderstanding
Unpopular but obviously demonstrable opinion as to why this matter of reparations is so complex and cannot be narrowed down to pure imperialist intervention and why you can’t discuss the thing in any helpful manner in an hour: CAPITALISM IS THE PROBLEM.
In the first hour talks about slavery and in the second hour references Marx. Letter from Marx to Engels "...he shows that the common n... type is only a degeneration of a far higher one."
I'm not concerned with past slavery and colonialism. I'm concerned with current neo-colonialism. Does your today morality allow neo-colonialism, or should we address that? I am from the Caribbean, by the way, and I bear the name of the Earl of Harewood. My ancestors were obviously forced to work on one of his many plantations. Most of us still live nearby. I think we always knew that we were not entitled to own other human beings. The mere fact that we ourselves would resist being enslaved would have alerted one to the wrongness of it. There are still many who would ignore "today's morality" as they did back then. So I do not accept your argument, but I don't see reparations as being practical. Neo-colonialism though, can be dismantled. If you don't know what it means or how it operates to keep former colonies under the boot of the former colonisers, then Google it or search RUclips!
Then why arrest criminals? As soon as anyone commits a criminal act, it's in the past. So there you go. Your sound logic right back in your face, with your wincing GW Bush profile icon.
It is beyond heartening to discover this is LBC’s most popular program, maybe things are actually changing amongst our fellow men and women and we’re not as hateful, bigoted and selfish as we certainly appear to be in the west? Unfortunately, we are still led by the least of us and until we vote the very values that this program espouses that will continue to be the case.
@firefox. The Ancient British were never freemen. They had no liberty to lose. They were owned and controlled by their clan -chiefs. I’m no imperialist, but the people of Africa and the Indian subcontinent were in the same condition when the British arrived in force. I’m not saying it was it was fair - but we have to look at the facts. Sadly, we have this urgent need to idealise ( and demonise) people. It’s the weakness of our times.
Europe and every country that took part in slavery, will pay for their actions...They can refuse to pay anything, but they will not escape the wrath that is coming to them.....
@@TheAArmstrong It should be self-explanatory....don't you think? Wrath means, Retribution, Punishment, Revenge, Fury, Rage, Divine Chastisement....take your pick....
There are things besides money. No. Not the crown jewels though that would be just and hilarious. Acknowledgement. That's what I think would go far and not strain the taxpayers too much.
@@TheAArmstrongand look at their collective attitude towards Palestine right now,, and the amount of people that have been cancelled or lost their jobs or prosecuted for criticizing the Israeli regime
Having listened to the entire show and the well reasoned debate contained, this comments section is hilarious. People making the same braindead points that were easily broken down and dismantled in the video they're commenting on. Painfully obvious they're replying to the tag line not the content, as the content breaks down why the "Italy should pay reparations for the Roman Empire" and the "cash from the poor to corrupt regimes" arguments are mind-numbingly lazy.
As always james bring any subject and injects facts, truth snd wisdom. You really are a credit to us all James and im verythanful to hear your voice everyday. Im usually driving when i listen to you on Lbc and when i arrive at my destination, i gind it hard to leave the car. Hate to afmit but, hed always right. I always agree 💯
13:12 maybe think of it less as reparations and more ...paying an over due bill for services rendered .. and as we know britain is an honourable country that always pays what it owes as a matter of principle .. its just not cricket to do other wise is it, it would be... well letting the side down wouldn't it see i can appeal to emotion too :P
Of course UK (or perhaps more precisely England?) should deliver reparations and apologies to the countries once occupied by the colonial empire. Of course it was evil because colonialism is always about exploitation in variety of forms, violence, oppression, racism and superiority of one over another etc.Therefore nothing to be proud of. Reparations are of course not necessarily about direct money transfers. They can be about economic help, social assistance, education or healthcare. If being against UK paying reparation begs the question why Germany should have payed reparations for WWll and WWl and why not US paying reparations to Vietnam or Japan or why Israel should pay reparations to Palestinians etc.
It's not just about money, it's also about justice, restoring countries to a level of living through supporting them, with resources. Resources stripped from them, that made them poor in the first place and still keeping them poor. Europe is still benefitting from slavery all over the world. Even refusing to give back African artefacts, that belong to us....I mean...wow!!!!!...The audacity of a decision made by KS, shows his lack of respect for a group of people and his lack of humanity....Yes...they are terrified of the TRUTH!!!!!!!!! Cos the truth will set us free and there is a lot of free thinking people, who know....and see and can't wait for the changes to come....
Reperations for colonialism and slavery would cost the UK trillions...just as much as they stole from their colonies throughout the years and got filthy rich (I mean, a few including the crown). It would be nothing but right and just to push UK and Europe into the poorhouse and have India and others the money they should rightfully have.
Yes we stole it to pay for a council house and lunch food vouchers for the staving kids. Inequality is within all of society. In fact the education system is designed to nurture inequality. Why does anyone want to pass an exam? It is to get ahead and earn a few extra dollars that the man next door. Humanity is unequally and always will be. The negotiations on this should be NO. If they want or they can declare war and we will fight over it.
@chester. The West is already in the poorhouse. All the main bankers are in the Middle East and Far East. Don’t be mislead by the condition of their people.
Do you realize how much money the UK could make if India became a stable and prosperous democracy? Give India $1 trillion and the UK could make back $1000 trillion. There are 1.5 billion people in India. Imagine each one of them will buy a Land Rover. Or a bottle of Whiskey. Of course you need to be smart about it. You don't just give the money. It would be an investment fund, where Indian companies need to apply to. A pro-Western und pro-Democracy leader must be forced.
14:03 i mean you say fractures in the commonwealth but from what you have said it only seems to be a fracture and only with one member of the common wealth the rest of them seem pretty unfractured about it lol
First lets ask the warlords who have run Africa for the last 50 years where all the foreign aid has gone....
No, slavery happened first, so let’s sort it out first. Also return our artefacts. Warlords, if any, will be dealt with in court.
If your memory of history dates back to fifty years, then you are as ignorant as they come.
Please tell us when and where you ever sent any aid in Africa?I know intellectually you're challenged and repeating right whinge rhetoric.Please give a single nation where Britain send aid to??? Just 1
@@knowstitches7958 about 50% of our Official Developmental Aid spending goes to African nations. I don't have a problem with it, but to deny its existence is a little dumb.
@@Faith-truthNo 😂😂😘
No . the reason is the money would come from those least able to pay it in the UK, and it would finish up in the pockets of the already wealthy who are promoting reoperations payments.
thats literally not how taxes work but okay
@@lord_scrubingtonOkay Explain how they do work, so we know you
@@toforgetisagem8145 income tax is a percentage charged from income you generate over a threshold. People in the lowest tax brackets contribute the lowest percentage of their income totaxes, they literally are charged the least.
Tax bracket percentages are only charged on money inside their bracket- i.e. anything below that threshold has the previous threshold's level of tax applied.
Reparations were paid in the 1840s and the debt was paid off between the 1840s and 2015….
If that's true then it's common knowledge and wouldn't be an issue. So there you go. It lingers as an issue, so there must be some truth to it.
@@subcitizen2012 I need reparations too. My ancestors where slaves to the Arab barbery trade. You reckon Turkey will give me reperations? 😂
@@ibexdnb2879 Talk to Turkey, then.
Keep paying
@@subcitizen2012 Seems we need to make people at school properly educated, the British ended slavery and already paid reparations. Solves the problem of ignorance.
Are the Italians going to give the British reparations for the Romans enslaving British? How far do you go?
I know, right? What did the Romans ever do for us?
@@andrewstevenson118The aquaduct...
@@andrewstevenson118Bloody Romans.
@@ibexdnb2879 "Well, obviously the aquaduct." "And the roads." "Well, yes, but..." "And wine."
@@andrewstevenson118 if you want to pay then that’s fine.
Should Egypt pay reparations to Sudan for enslaving Nubians 4000 years ago? If slavery knows no statute of limitations, then if we do, they do.
Welcome to idiots corner, Paul😢
We still do.
Are you really comparing 4 millennia to a couple of lifetimes ago? And that's just slavery, that doesn't cover how much "soft slavery" they implemented after the abolition of it
No one these days would do anything but condemn slavery. But we cannot pay our way out of history - and how far back would one take this? The sins of the world are many and legion and still ongoing. Can money ever expiate them? There is no way of scrubbing clean the pages of the past by applying money.
No-one seems to be pushing for Spain or Portugal et al to pay reparations. It’s just to agitate the leaders of the West.
Bit of extra cash won’t do any harm though will it.
@@Pressure-xs6nq Yes it would.
British have to sell entire UK 🇬🇧 to pay half of the wealth they looted from India alone.
@@TheAArmstrong ohhhhhhhhh no it won’t ! Besides which, it Doesn’t matter what YOU say. If the government decides to pay, you’ll have no choice, sunshine! 🤣
No.
I'd like to understand the argument as to why other civilisations, which took millions from Africa, but purposely ensured they wouldn't have descendants (meaning no large diaspora of Africans in those former colonial states, unlike the Americas) and also colonised vast areas of the African continent leading to substantially changes to the demographics makeup of those areas, aren't included in this discussion.
Correct me if I am wrong but isn't it only us refusing to join the conversation?
they didn't take millions; they were given millions by African warlords in exchange for firearms and gunpowder so that those rulers could catch even more slaves and grow in power
@@diamondwest35 why join a biased debate which ignores the massive effects of non-european countries.
@@karlarcher8773 By the same token, we shouldn't disregard our own involvement.
here's an idea...
TAX THE BILLIONAIRES
INSTEAD OF GETTING LOST IN THE LATEST DISTRACTION
AND GET RID OF MODERN SLAVERY.
Always pick on the rich we pay enough tax already
It’s easy to say yes when you’re a middle class snob.
If you’re a poor British person you don’t understand where this reparation gets taken from where does this money come from if your whole family line hasn’t seen it . Daft topic JOB 😂
As an american I shouldn't have to explain tax brackets to a British person. So go look them up yourself.
@@KingUSMCO I do not care
@@BumberClarke you cared enough to form an opinion, the least you can do is learn in the age of information. You really have zero excuse.
@@KingUSMCO no need to learn a subject I already know, however assuming that I am poor why would I actually care? This is nothing but another grift understanding that if your American then your quite behind in integration of black people amongst white you might not understand that here in Britain black folks have 100% as much right and say as the rest of the country so the race division is fairly minimal. Hence no problem
"NO" , absolutely f k in NOT!. 🤦
You’ll have no choice sunshine
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@@Pressure-xs6nq bull 💩, never going to happen 🙄
@@501sqn3 your better hope doesn’t, because if it does they’ll be getting all YOUR benefit money. 🤣🤣💰💰
Romans and vikings don’t exist anymore, the British crown and wealth from empire is in tact and the families who profited from it are still wealthy today. If Caribbeans and their decedents (20m people) were paid out the equivalent of what 3,000 slavers received in reparations, we’re talking £60,000 a head. The longer it goes on the bigger the bill.
Don’t worry about it. There is no such concept as hereditary guilt in Law, with the exception of North Korea of course.
@@davidpryle3935 “Fill the cracks in with judicial granite
Because I don't say it, don't mean I ain't thinking it
Next thing you know, they'll take my thoughts away” - Megadeth
The countries that were part of empire are independent. Do keep up
Being a descendent of slaves who now lives is Australia I would say that paying for the wrongs of the past will only widen the divide and create resentments. What should be done instead is factual reeducation of what happened in the past. There’s a lot of things that colonialists overlooked in most cultures they’ve exploited due to their thought that their way were vastly superior. Unfortunately there may be some customs that have died along with the people that were exploited but there are still some that still exist today. example for many years Australian Aboriginal people were over looked because they did not have written historical records much like most of the western world. When they in fact learnt songs and stories which were passed on which was their way of recording history. Their way of life could be key to discovering how more ancient cultures lived … they also had much environmentally friendly farming practices which could solve problems what we face today with our climate change. Embracing other cultures useful practices would be a much better way of rewriting the wrongs of the past.
My ancestors were subjugated by the French rulers for 400 years. I'm still suffering from it today, due to the inherited trauma. Even a quarter of my language changed to be french words. Can you imagine?
I want reparations from France for me and my family here in Yorkshire.
Are we the begging bowl of the world? How much are we sending to India to help pay for their space program?
In 2022, India overtook the U.K. to become the 5th richest country in the world. Furthermore, if you educate yourself, you’re realise that India is the second largest source of Foreign Direct Investment in the UK. This country does not pay for India’s space program. Furthermore, it’s this country that goes to India with its begging bowl.
I mean when your modern economy was literally built on the enslavement and theft you are indeed. If I steal your wealth and build my life around that, any reasonable person would expect me to be punished..
@@sarahashun1180 er no
UK looted $45-60 trillion worth of wealth from INDIA.
UK sending money to ngo's which do propaganda for them as far as I know UK is still unable to launch any satellite from its soil.
If you sell entire UK still you won't be able to pay 10% of what you looted from INDIA.
It was the world's richest country throughout its history before British came.
This was the kast crazy thing for me. Uninstalled lbc and removing it from my car. Sick of this stupidity.
Why is reality so triggering to you?
And yet here you are.
Could you not just... maybe *not* turn it on?
Imagine how your gonna feel when you have to pay reparations. 😮
James O'Brien should pay reparations but no one else.
To keep it simple you should not be liable for things people did 200 years ago.
Thankfully the argument isnt about "you" but governments and extremely rich families that have profited off of centuries of enacting atrocities on to other nations.
@ The government if they paid anything would come from taxpayers. So it is me and you if you are UK taxpayer.
@@neilsmith154 Instead of making all taxpayers pay, the focus could be reparations on those who directly benefited from colonial exploitation, like big corporations and wealthy families with historic ties to that era. A targeted wealth tax on these groups or asking them to contribute directly would put the responsibility where it belongs. Plus, instead of just cash payouts, funding long-term development projects in affected countries to tackle the inequality that still exists today. This way, reparations are more fair and don’t put extra strain on regular taxpayers. I do see where you come from though and that's why I think reparations should take a bit of a backseat in terms of current world issues, but should still be discussed.
Should Italy pay Britain for slavery/invasion reparations for centuries of Roman occupation? Nonsense.
Were you invaded and made slaves in 1980?
Of course they should
NO
The Ancestors have WOKEN UP, so all the Brutality still has a COST.
This was literally a talking point during the show. The Roman empire doesn't exist anymore in the same way the British does.
This is a nonsensical analogy. Italy != the Roman empire. It doesn't even resemble it.
Whereas the same British empire, that invaded & enslaved dark skinned people is in terms of governmental structures still pretty much the same as the United Kingdom.
In order for your analogy to work the UK has to break up and form a new country without the ruling elite of the current one. Aka remove the British royals from power.
This was dealt with in 1840 at a rate that by today’s standards would bankrupt the country. We’ve already been through this James centuries ago! Keep up! 😂
You don't understand: he is not trying to solve a problem, he is trying to signal his virtue.
@@jeffsimon9594and what he doesn't realise, is that it doesn't actually win any friends.. It wins more hatred and victimhood and lines up an awkward conversation like Starmer is having to have with commonwealth, where we have to say "yeah we recognise our mistakes but you can't be serious about reparations, because we weren't really as bad as some others despite the fact that our prominent speakers and head of church have been saying we were awful for decades.
@@dna9838 ah okay because you only robbed 100 thousand pounds you shouldn't give it back or compensate for it, because there were others that stole a million...
That logic is air tight let me know how it goes in court when you try it..
@@carpediem5232 The real problem with these countries is that they've flirted with socialism and no country ever comes back from that e.g. the Manley government in Jamaica.
@@MatthewSmith-j1lThe problem with that is no US government has ever been friendly to any country that wished to go down the route of nationalising industries thst they were previously profiting from. Every country that has tried this has had to contend with coups, assassinations, embargoes, and other disruptions to their local economies. Then once the cold war ended it was the IMF that came with much needed funds which these nations accepted under strict neo liberal rules that just made these nations poorer.
My father was put into a government child home called pitt house school for boys , he deserves reperations but he will never ask ,as reliving the ordeal would be to hard .
You do it for him then
@@Pressure-xs6nqPeople get compensation for things that that happened 40 years ago aha. If you don’t think your dad is worth sticking up for, that’s a reflection of you. Don’t tell me not to stick up for mine.
@@carlosshimshon4733he didn't say that at all. He said if it's too stressful for your Dad then you should help him by doing it.
So should France, Portugal, Spain, Holland, Mali, Nigeria, Oman, Saudi, Tunisia, Algeria, Morrocco, USA, etc
We need to consider the experience of the masses at the time of slavery. A tiny percentage of people with the right to vote. 5 year olds sent up chimneys. Day workers trampled to death seeking dock works. Should their descendents receive reparations? All from the descendents of the few. When do I get my money?
Imagine you applied this logic to every situation you encountered in life.
"Oh you're going to give that dying man CPR?!? Really? Don't you know there's millions of people dying in Africa so you helping this specific guy right now is actually somehow bad!?"
"Oh you're going to pay out a class action lawsuit to thousands of people who were hurt by a company, don't you know that lots of other people were hurt by a different company too! Everyone knows you can either fix every problem simultaneously, or no problems at all!"
I think the reparation issue deserves discussion, but firstly calculate the amount to be paid and divide it by the number of the population, then as a starter, allow those who feel strongly about this to voluntary pay their contribution……James, you can go first.
The ONLY people that would make any REAL money out of this issue would be the Solicitors!
12:40 i mean you could view it as righting a wrong ... but then that also assumes that you acknowledge as a wrong to begin with
I’m mixed race please make sure I get my money pls
No - there you go. Saved you 2 and a bit hours of your life. You're welcome.
Nobody needs to ask what kind of person you are.
I am from the Caribbean and I don't advocate for reparations for slavery or colonialism. But I suggest you research neo-colonialism. Your lot never truly let us go!
Excellent intellectual contribution.
@@andrewstevenson118 better than yours in any case.
@@jameswlong Impotent tu quoque
Or yes, and you're wasting the rest of your life.
Love Honest people like you. Wishing you all the best
why should the poorest be paying for what the ancestors of the rich have done! the country is already shagged for cash!
No, but an apology would go a long way. Tax payers in the UK today, have no connection with the practice. If some payment is deemed necessary take it from the corporations/families that profited from it and still have some of that profit on hand. That is going to be a hard proof to make.
Who doesn't have slaves in their ancestory?
The UK owes all the former colonies back taxes with interest
There are still some companies in the UK that treat workers from other countries badly only because those from outside the UK work hard and do everything to make the service better and those from the UK think they will exploit the visitors,unfortunately those times are over, no one will let themselves be humiliated and treated like trash.
James is right about one thing actually. Don't go against your own interest. Giving billions to refugees and losing billions to corrupt african charities is against our interest but I am guessing James won't talk about it.
Im so over James, its so boring and childish the way he insults everyone with a different opinion to him. As far as i am concerned James will change his opinion to suit the socially acceptable viewpoints that enable him to bully amd belittle others. Thats why early in his career his opinion was the opposite to what it is today, its not because he has grown as a person, its because the old points no longer allow him to belittle others so he can feel morally superior. Fyi i came on board as a new listener during Brexit but i literally now have to turn him off. I keep giving him another chance but every show its the same belittling attitude 🙄
The video was released 13 minutes ago, so it's not been up 5 minutes for you to pass this judgement. So why post this here now?
See you next week fellow fan. ❤
It seems your ideas are the ones in vogue. If he wants your social acceptance, than why doesn't he capitulate to your majoritarian ideas of not doing anything for anyone? He says he's grown as a person, so why not let him speak for himself? Seems like you have an issue with telling people how to think. If you don't want to be belittled, then get some bigger beliefs. It's not that hard, not rocket science, you just need to develop as a person and wander yourself into some information that will boost your IQ. Everything you're whining about is your own choice, just like a brexiter.
@@subcitizen2012Spoken like a true man of the state.
1000% false.
If J'O'B were just going with the most popular opinion he wouldn't be telling you how Israel is repeating 1940's Germany every week. But he is a moral person who will say unpopular things because they're true, so he does.
One in three men at Trafalgar were Irishmen, but how could you remember that ,which you never knew.
Irish in 1805 makes them British .
@@fredbloggs5843 The only British in Ireland are the descendants of those expelled, exported or excreted from Britain.
can palestinians sue the uk?
It was the UN that gave isrealites and jews that land that is now israel NOT the uk.
@@kevinwake8789 ok im mistaken.
It began with the UK but they gave up half way thru and left it to the UN to deal with
The UK created a Palestinian state; it’s called Jordan.
why not everyone else is trying their hardest and labour are just giving it away.
Why should I pay reparations from my tax? Maybe I can claim reparations from Germany for the generational damage World War Two did to my family?
Britain should be proud of its empire not shameful at some of the negative parts conducted by elements of the ex empire.
Britain ended slavery at great expense decades before other nations. The USA clung to slavery a long time after they Brits abolished it. Try banging on the door of the White House for reparations.
@@markac8 who says it would come from taxation? My understanding is the majority of slaves were owned by private individuals, many descendants of whom still sit on piles of cash today. I doubt you could trace everything, but it’s not really a secret who owned them and who inherited from those owners. Britain should definitely not be proud of its empire at all. If Britain were conquered today, would you congratulate the conquerors? Odd
Germany were forced to pay reparations. Your understanding of history is almost non existent.
I'd love to see your GCSE history mark
You’ll have no choice sunshine
@@mickreaddin4979Just like you it seems.
This interview is worth watching. It may explain the black hole in our economy.
That caller with the Liverpool martial artist story was pure distilled LinkedIn-brain.
Will Italy be paying reparations for my ancestors being enslaved in the Roman Empire?
the point about all funding structurescollapsing with the fall of the british empire was something I hadn't even considered
About the singing in the shower. It is evolutionary. It's about confined spaces. In the shower you often have your eyes closed and your hearing detects an enclosed space. Your instinct is to make noise to hear the echos, giving you an idea of what was around you. Kind of a very simple sonar. It was useful in caves and in the dark.
Qualifications? Made it up
Don't pay reparations. Just take people from countries you colonised and stole resources from, into your country to live and work should they not be able to do so in their countries. Simple.
The Commonwealth is rapidly growing tired of Britain.
The commonwealth is dead. Socialists destroyed it long ago.
I don't think you can fix it with money.
If LBC reinstated Sangita the figures would’ve gone higher no doubt!
I wouldn't like reparations but I would like an apology from the British Government for causing the deaths of a million people in my country. Other than that what can Britain really do? It cannot even look after itself at present.
Why do you want a forced apology?
What's in paying reparations, for me?
You’ll feel better
😂 You are exactly the problem with the world today
@@lindarose7475 if you don’t wanna pay, GET OUT!!! 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
@@Pressure-xs6nq I'd feel better if the money went to animal charities.
Well done James.
Challenging the liars and asking them for the evidence. And not moving on until they produce the evidence.
It's a solid tactic which exposes these grifters
10:59 its a tactic as old as the first leader of a settled community having abused his power saying "hey look guys you know that tribe over the hill? it was actually THEIR FAULT IT WAS THEM THEM THEM lol .. the weird sad depressing thing is that some how the oldest con it history still seems to work ...
It doesn't matter that much but for once it would be nice to see the table is turned because we know Britain would be bankrupt paying for reparations. Britain is not that prosperous ...😢
Absolutely no reparations . Uk ended slavery
*After* benefiting greatly from it.
You’ll have no choice sunshine
165 million people died in INDIA by British created famines.
Looted $45-60 trillion from it.
The british empire isnt something to be proud of.the subjacating of other countries and plundering their resources.and do you think poor and working class people benefitted from the british empire.cos i think not.the poor had to know their place.
@@Pressure-xs6nq
You’ll have no choice to beg.
Yes please. As a white british working class peasant my ancestors were no doubt slaves at some point, if not treated worse than slaves through many generations.
So give me money please......
Oh im white so it doesnt count... silly me... i thought this was about equality...... silly silly me
😂😂
Is that right? Which of your ancestors were slaves? People whose ancestors were actually slaves can prove it. You?
That would be socialism. You're not a socialist. So there you go.
@@subcitizen2012 "Socialism is applied Christianity." MJ Savage, 1938
@@andrewstevenson118MJ Savage said it so it must be correct...
James O Brien, it is a big issue, fools can ignore it, but it will affect future trade and business relations...
Reparations would open a Pandoras box and then everyone would want a piece of Britain when they don't deserve it. The 'fools' are the ones who have stoked this nonsense over decades, people who think that relentlessly mea culpa'ing will win friends and influence people. It hasn't. It just gives fuel for bad actors to stoke resentment in developing countries. J
I am all for reparations, we should divert our foreign aid budget for these reparations for the next 100 years
No chance!!
You’ll have no choice sunshine
why should i pay for some ancient countrymen of mine made a mistake.
You’ll have no choice😂
Made a mistake is nuts
There could be cultural and economic reparations, in the form of economic development like water and new roads. The islands were under developed after slavery, and need basic engineering infrastructure, to which the UK could contribute. New school roofs, drainage, etc, should be what restorative justice means. Cheques to governments or individuals are not on. However, O'Brien is so convinced that his narrow view of things is 'correct' that nuance isn't something he understands. Insult is his only way of arguing anything.
Commonwealth? For whom? Should be called Commondebt
14:47 wait what is the implication there lol? That Ireland was a happy ally to the British working merrily for then? I really appreciate how far James has come in recent years in terms of social awareness but there are a few relics of his old self/pockets of ignorance. Unless I'm misunderstanding
Yes the should an also pay reparations for the famine deaths as the plundered food from ireland
Well said.
Ireland should pay royalties for all the great inventions the UK has given the world.
@@MrWhitmen1981 What nonsense.
Reparations is just pity pay. What would really help is reinvestment
And indentured servitude.
Unpopular but obviously demonstrable opinion as to why this matter of reparations is so complex and cannot be narrowed down to pure imperialist intervention and why you can’t discuss the thing in any helpful manner in an hour: CAPITALISM IS THE PROBLEM.
@@mattsharpey361 Can you explain why it is the problem or Capitalism just a catch all phrase for anything you dislike?
@@timothyodeyale6565 I can yes.
Return the gold, diamonds, artifacts, and invaluable resources that were taken from Africa's rich lands.
I think that's fair 😅😅😅
No thanks
No
why dont you move from the uk
Go on then
Folks with one leg only ever NEED but one shoe/boot at a time, t'other hardly ever wears out.
In the first hour talks about slavery and in the second hour references Marx. Letter from Marx to Engels "...he shows that the common n... type is only a degeneration of a far higher one."
Huh?
Most older views are dated. That shouldn't be a stumble or goal for you or anyone that's modern beyond the 1840s.
@@subcitizen2012 my comment was tongue in cheek. There are those that they frown upon and those they revere. Well I am exposing Marx
We can’t judge yesterdays actions with todays morality. Because we inevitably have it used against us with this social grift. It’s a no.
Regardless, Britain already paid the reparations in the 1840s….
And the British taxpayer paid for it up until the debt was paid of in 2015…..
I'm not concerned with past slavery and colonialism. I'm concerned with current neo-colonialism. Does your today morality allow neo-colonialism, or should we address that?
I am from the Caribbean, by the way, and I bear the name of the Earl of Harewood. My ancestors were obviously forced to work on one of his many plantations. Most of us still live nearby.
I think we always knew that we were not entitled to own other human beings. The mere fact that we ourselves would resist being enslaved would have alerted one to the wrongness of it.
There are still many who would ignore "today's morality" as they did back then.
So I do not accept your argument, but I don't see reparations as being practical.
Neo-colonialism though, can be dismantled. If you don't know what it means or how it operates to keep former colonies under the boot of the former colonisers, then Google it or search RUclips!
@@Norman-j7m No it’s bob.
Then why arrest criminals? As soon as anyone commits a criminal act, it's in the past. So there you go. Your sound logic right back in your face, with your wincing GW Bush profile icon.
@@mandyharewood886 Well-written and powerful personal testimony. Thank you. 🙂
The phot at the beginning of this video contravenes the trade descriptions act.
It is beyond heartening to discover this is LBC’s most popular program, maybe things are actually changing amongst our fellow men and women and we’re not as hateful, bigoted and selfish as we certainly appear to be in the west? Unfortunately, we are still led by the least of us and until we vote the very values that this program espouses that will continue to be the case.
It won’t happen bro 😂
They need to bring back Sangita!
Ah well,it is as it is***we have gotten used to J O B now.
0:54 i blame the Romans .. not the italians... the romans
Pfft. What have the Romans ever done for us?
@firefox. The Ancient British were never freemen. They had no liberty to lose. They were owned and controlled by their clan -chiefs. I’m no imperialist, but the people of Africa and the Indian subcontinent were in the same condition when the British arrived in force. I’m not saying it was it was fair - but we have to look at the facts. Sadly, we have this urgent need to idealise ( and demonise) people. It’s the weakness of our times.
There’s a little thing called karma !!!🫣
Europe and every country that took part in slavery, will pay for their actions...They can refuse to pay anything, but they will not escape the wrath that is coming to them.....
@@HIP54 what wrath?? You don’t have the money to hurt us 😮
@@TheAArmstrong Wrong doing = Consequence...we both agree about that. You don't need money..lol
@@HIP54 Okay so explain the “wrath” part to me…
@@TheAArmstrong It should be self-explanatory....don't you think? Wrath means, Retribution, Punishment, Revenge, Fury, Rage, Divine Chastisement....take your pick....
No. The end.
There are things besides money. No. Not the crown jewels though that would be just and hilarious.
Acknowledgement. That's what I think would go far and not strain the taxpayers too much.
James O'brien Britain after all colonial they did it. still they not stopped are doing until now
Acknowledging your country 's sins of the past. Welcome to the club🇩🇪.
Urgh, I don’t want to be as self loathing as the Germans
@@TheAArmstrong so rather staying ignorant than.
@@TheAArmstrongand look at their collective attitude towards Palestine right now,, and the amount of people that have been cancelled or lost their jobs or prosecuted for criticizing the Israeli regime
@@spring_in_paris Ignorance is the wrong word.
4:05 those who can make you believe absurdity's can make you commit atrocitys
Its funny how thinks tanks are corrupt until they agree with this grifters sanctimonious drivel
No.
Yes.
@@subcitizen2012 Great band.
Having listened to the entire show and the well reasoned debate contained, this comments section is hilarious. People making the same braindead points that were easily broken down and dismantled in the video they're commenting on.
Painfully obvious they're replying to the tag line not the content, as the content breaks down why the "Italy should pay reparations for the Roman Empire" and the "cash from the poor to corrupt regimes" arguments are mind-numbingly lazy.
Can't this just be called the Haiti question? Or was it Jamaica you guys had in slavery until the 80's?
Jamaica was the British. Haiti was the French
You lost me at Bill Gates.
Immigration Reparations are in order
No
you expel bad energy by sneezing!
As always james bring any subject and injects facts, truth snd wisdom. You really are a credit to us all James and im verythanful to hear your voice everyday. Im usually driving when i listen to you on Lbc and when i arrive at my destination, i gind it hard to leave the car. Hate to afmit but, hed always right. I always agree 💯
Ok bot ❤
13:12 maybe think of it less as reparations and more ...paying an over due bill for services rendered .. and as we know britain is an honourable country that always pays what it owes as a matter of principle .. its just not cricket to do other wise is it, it would be... well letting the side down wouldn't it see i can appeal to emotion too :P
Cricket? The English invented cricket for the Indians, football for the Spanish, rugby for the Kiwis, and league for the Aussies. 🙂
Of course UK (or perhaps more precisely England?) should deliver reparations and apologies to the countries once occupied by the colonial empire. Of course it was evil because colonialism is always about exploitation in variety of forms, violence, oppression, racism and superiority of one over another etc.Therefore nothing to be proud of. Reparations are of course not necessarily about direct money transfers. They can be about economic help, social assistance, education or healthcare. If being against UK paying reparation begs the question why Germany should have payed reparations for WWll and WWl and why not US paying reparations to Vietnam or Japan or why Israel should pay reparations to Palestinians etc.
All the other UK countries were very much involved in colonialism, don’t let your anglophobia cloud your vision.
@@MichaelRimmer-qx8jp That is why I put a question mark.
@@gretareinarsson7461 that’s why I answered your question.
It's not just about money, it's also about justice, restoring countries to a level of living through supporting them, with resources. Resources stripped from them, that made them poor in the first place and still keeping them poor. Europe is still benefitting from slavery all over the world. Even refusing to give back African artefacts, that belong to us....I mean...wow!!!!!...The audacity of a decision made by KS, shows his lack of respect for a group of people and his lack of humanity....Yes...they are terrified of the TRUTH!!!!!!!!! Cos the truth will set us free and there is a lot of free thinking people, who know....and see and can't wait for the changes to come....
It’s a grift, nothing more.
African countries receive billions of dollars of foreign aid and it makes no difference.
The irish the enslaved from cromwells time sentcto the carribean
They weren’t slaves they were indentured servants.
Neil basu turns him on
@SargeWilliePete, please watch.
Reperations for colonialism and slavery would cost the UK trillions...just as much as they stole from their colonies throughout the years and got filthy rich (I mean, a few including the crown). It would be nothing but right and just to push UK and Europe into the poorhouse and have India and others the money they should rightfully have.
you will be one of the first to give everything up then i suppose very noble of you.
Yes we stole it to pay for a council house and lunch food vouchers for the staving kids. Inequality is within all of society. In fact the education system is designed to nurture inequality. Why does anyone want to pass an exam? It is to get ahead and earn a few extra dollars that the man next door. Humanity is unequally and always will be.
The negotiations on this should be NO. If they want or they can declare war and we will fight over it.
@chester. The West is already in the poorhouse. All the main bankers are in the Middle East and Far East. Don’t be mislead by the condition of their people.
Do you realize how much money the UK could make if India became a stable and prosperous democracy? Give India $1 trillion and the UK could make back $1000 trillion. There are 1.5 billion people in India. Imagine each one of them will buy a Land Rover. Or a bottle of Whiskey. Of course you need to be smart about it. You don't just give the money. It would be an investment fund, where Indian companies need to apply to. A pro-Western und pro-Democracy leader must be forced.
@@holz_nameHow about giving India back the trillions of pounds the U.K. stole from the country?
Well said, James 🎉
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14:03 i mean you say fractures in the commonwealth but from what you have said it only seems to be a fracture and only with one member of the common wealth the rest of them seem pretty unfractured about it lol
Bravo LBC 🎉🎉🎉
YES!
You know your prog!
@@jeffsimon9594 And what is the meaning of that?
No
@@peterwilson5528 I can see you are the life of any party!
@@jeffsimon9594 Why thank you for the compliment :)
Wearing that shirt again O'brien 😂
If O'brien gets under your skin, why are you constantly here?
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