I'm glad he was able to play Saruman for this movie because it would be super sad seeing someone else play Saruman and he is one of my favorite actors because of Count Dooku.
The last masterpiece of Christopher Lee is the expression on Saruman's face when Sauron appears. He seems scared, deeply shocked but at same time nearly attracted by the terrible power of the Dark Lord. The fall of Saruman begins in this moment. Fine actor and amazing character.
You know, seeing Saruman as a friend and ally fighting alongside Elrond is awesome, but it's tragic at the same time when you realize what he becomes in the original trilogy.
You know, the main reason why he got evil Was because he looked in the palantir, at first, he wanted to learn what sauron is thinking/plans so the humans would have a higher Chance of Winning. But sauron corrupted his soul and mind, he became after the first Look in the palantir more and more evil over time. The other main reason why he changed so much was, he was(after he looked in the palantir) afraid of sauron, because he thought that the humans no matter what wont win against sauron. The main Difference from saruman and gandalf is, that saruman thought only great Power can hold evil abay,, but gandalf thought also in an other way, i mean, do you think sauron would have Experten that 2 Hobbits will bring him down? If someone would have told him that, he would just lough about it. But thats the point, gandalf no matter if there were ever any chances to win against sauron, still would not give up. Gandalf thought with his heart aswell, while saruman just thought with his mind And because saruman didnt find a way how to defeat sauron, he got mad.
@@adamwarlock8263 The Palantir makes even the most sane people go crazy eventually. Remember how Denethor went completely mad, telling his people to flee for their lives and even trying to burn Faramir? Yeah, the Palantir did that to him.
You can see how utterly terrified of Sauron he is. I know he turns to his own greed, but I always like to think he just gave up and thought none could ever truly stand against Sauron's might.
Trevor Rotan Uh-huh... But I`m sure she realizes that he was the servant AND disciple, and later, traitor of Morgoth, took almost all of his powers. Add to that the power he`s already had as the most powerful balrog in history. And only the 14 Valar along with the Maiar and the elves of Valinor could defeat Melkor. So that "insult" is cute, but not entirely realistic ;)
@@whennever8202 you need to seriously stop saying bullshit that isn't true at all lol Sauron never stole Morgoth's powers and it was Gothmog who was (is) the most powerful of Balrog
@@Boss-ot1iy You need to stop bullshitting, not me. Both Sauron and the Balrogs were maiar, Gothmog was the Lord of Balrogs, but Sauron was more powerful. Yes, Sauron took most of Morgoth`s powers. Read the books again.
@@Zvangimo What are you even talking about? Did you read the books? Silmarilions "ring" a bell? You absolutely don`t remember how it took almost the entire White Council, the elvish ringbearers Elrond and Galadriel included, Saruman, Radagast, Cirdan and Gandalf to attempt directly facing Sauron "without his ring" in Dol Guldur? Tolkien established that Sauron with his ring was the most powerful being in Middle-Earth, bar probably only Eru who is basically the creator. Just with his original powers, he was the second most powerful being in Middle-Earth, bar only with an Elven Bearer with an Elven Ring. He was also extremely capable physically. Even the Elves with the Elven Ring could do nothing against him and they even had to take off the rings when they sensed Sauron`s presence through them. So stop talking like you even read the books - you watched the movies, fangirled Galadriel and now you talk like you have any knowledge on the lore. "Over-aged disciple" - Dude, chill... Galadriel won`t date you. Bitch almost died fighting Sauron`s shadow...
“Are you in need of assistance my lady” is such a powerful line! So happy that Christopher Lee was able to reprise his role in the Tolkienverse before he passed away. Such a great actor and was perfect for the role!
Christopher Lee was so excited to do this scene because he got to portray Saruman the White as he should have been, before he was seduced by the power of the Ring. He was almost giddy with excitement when describing it as such in an interview.
Also, he was 92 when filming this. That is inspiring to me (I think he didn’t do the fighting, a double did that in his place to be mindful of his health because of his age)
I actually think this scene ties the story together better. In the books, this all happens before Bilbo is even born. This is also revealed to be when Saruman begins seeking the Ring.
No no, this is when saruman sees saurons true power. This is when saruman starts becoming convinced. He was in awe when seeing saurons appearence. He is a complex character. Is he good? or merely a rational decision maker? a politician like man with no true morality?
The Overlord Is this a joke? Nothing is more powerful than Sauron in his prime, not even close. He is Gorthaur the Cruel. He is the Necromancer of Dol Guldur. He is Annatar, the Lord of Gifts, deceiver of Eregion. The shapeshifter, the illusionist, the master of Draugluin and Thuringwethil. He is Mairon, the Scholar of Aule, former disciple and successor of Morgoth Belegur, once Melkor. His power can not be rationally quantified. Tom Bombadil? Please...
@@sarasparks1992 And it's consistent for the two faced being he was. Like when they found a bunch of pipe weed and barrels of beer in Orthanc while he mocked others for their use of those items.
Tolkien mentioned in his books that Garadiel was the oldest and the most powerful elf in Middle Earth and also that except Sauron she was the only one who could master the power of the one ring. So in the fellowship of the ring she refused taking the ring from Frodo, not beacuse she was afraid of its power but beacuse she was afraid of herself and of the things that she would be capable of with that power
Kamil Brychcy Yup, in fact that’s why Gandalf, an angelic being like Sauron, refuse to even handle the Ring. He feared what would happen if he succumbed to temptation and tried to use it.
Yeah, that scene where Gandalf VERY aggressively refuses to take the ring really puts it into perspective. Like, Frodo, bro, you have ZERO IDEA what you are offering me right now, and how incredibly tempting it is. Also, you learn how good Gandalf is by being able to refuse it like that, even when it is offered willingly. By my count, only Gandalf, Galadriel, and Aragorn are ever able to deny the chance to take the ring when its offered to them, yeah?
@@foodb0i I know Sam carried it, and he did willingly give it back, but he wasn't offered it by Frodo (quite the opposite lol) but you're right, I did forget about him 😭
@@SelfProclaimedEmperor Won't work here, Sauron has no form to destroy. Same way they couldn't really do anything but temporarily banish the Nazgul with their attacks, even though they all had some degree of magic, but times 100 because Sauron even in this form is far superior to a Nazgul. Not sure exactly how Galadrial is able to banish him. She has a ring of power but its power is in healing and preserving the world not in being destructive or enhancing magical attacks. Anyway a sword attack would do nothing to Sauron here.
I love how wildly unconcerned Galadriel is walking into Dol Guldur barefoot, knowing fully that Sauron is back and has a small army at the ready. Then picks up Gandalf like a 3kg lazy house cat to nonchalantly and leaves as if she didn't just dissolve someone's existence from the face of reality. And this line - "You should've stayed dead" - is literally one of the best in the entire movie series
What I want to know is, why do elves have long hair? Long hair evolved because it protected us from the sun. But in the beginning, during the time of the Two Trees, there was no sun. So what was the purpose of long hair? Galadriel lived since that time so she had long hair for no reason.
The way that Elrond said "You should've stayed dead" made me wonder if he actually knew those men before they turned into wraiths, probably fought with them side by side as well...
Kings and powerful sorcerers they were in life, but it's never giving back story for them except for the witch king which only describes his involvement in the fall of Arnor, the other was Kamul who we only knew came from the east. For the rest there's 0 info, a total shame.
@@longxiao9823 I know, the nazgul's are such an interesting characters that deserve a lot more of development from Tolkien. Let's hope they use them wisely in the Amazon series if possible.
I love how she completly demeans Sauron by saying you have no power here, servant of morgoth. Same exact situation when Dumbledor calls Voldemort, Tom.
@@liamorwhat2665 They're saying that calling Sauron "Servant of Morgoth" is just as demeaning as when Dumbledore calls Voldemort "Tom." I don't fully agree, but that's what they were getting at
@@joepod1125 It's diminishing their Dark Lord status by revealing truths of what they are. Sauron - Not a Dark Lord of all but an ex servant of a greater power in Morgoth Voldamort - A half blood boy named Tom Riddle not the all powerful wizard all fear to speak the name of.
@@ArchangelsvoidExactly this, it’s about addressing them by titles which belittle them. Sauron was always Morgoths servant and Voldemort was always a half blood wizard which he despised
@@ayoubalarabi4805 Indeed i did, everybody should do their homework, i hope you did too, it would be wise my friend, other wise you abandon reason for madness lol
Actually it was not Christopher Lee's last role at all he had one more voice role in a film called angels in Notting hill right before he died. That was his last official role.
Very late reply, but she does the same thing in the Lord of the Rings trilogy. In the mirror scene, she casually holds out a large pitcher full of water and slowly pours from it as if it weighs nothing.
Watching Saruman laying the smack down was glorious. The sound and effects teams really did a great job of making his blows feel like they had a weight and an impact behind them.
He was much more powerful. When he started using his powers for dark purposes, his influence was so strong that the elves cursed him and changed his name. Rather than referring to him as Melkor (his true name), they started calling him “Morgoth, Black foe of the World”. You have to be pretty malicious to get that title from the graceful elves.
You're kind of already looking at him. The in books, Sauron was beautiful and used his beauty to carve his deceptions. The suit of armour you see in the opening of the fellowship is essentially Morgoths armour from the books.
Poor sauron he show up twice in all the movies just to get his fingers cut once and bullied back into the void another. I start to undertstand why he kinda always pissed off.
I love how Galadriel looks drenched in water when she's directly harnessing the full power of Nenya (otherwise known as the Ring of Water). That was a nice touch.
Actually Nenya was not a ring with power for attack, hence she can´t "harness" its power(s). Nenya´s power was preservation/concealment from evil. She used it to keep Lothlorien intact. So in this case she did definitely not use the power of "protection" ring (Nenya) - more likely her own magical abilities (she is on of the oldest elves - the first ones, well at least some of them, were almost on par with Maiar, speaking in terms of power) with perhaps Light of Eärendil (Phial of Galadriel, which she gave later to Frodo).
Nenya's powers are defensive, which does include concealment, but is not limited to it. If you believe that Nenya has no active defensive power against Sauron's evil and his armies (as demonstrated in this scene), then you have been misinformed. Galadriel could, and does, harness the power of Nenya as its bearer, to differing degrees and for different purposes. It enhances her own inherent power. In this case, she utilises it for focused active defence, rather than passive generalised defence (as in the case of repelling evil from the borders of Lothlorien). The multifaceted properties of Nenya are written right there in the lore if you care to explore it further.
I honestly didn’t like it. It made Galadriel look too scary, evil, and nightmarish, like when she was influenced by the One Ring’s power while being tempted by Frodo’s offer. If they wanted Galadriel to attack with her ring of power, they should have just had her launch a barrage of hydrokinesis.
He's not merely implying it. Sauron IS so evil that he's hard to look at. Sauron uses terror as a weapon, just as the Nazgul and Durin's Bane do. Merely being in his presence would cause most of us to have a mental breakdown from sheer terror. Being around Sauron is sort of like being hit with the "blue flower" drug from Batman Begins. It takes a truly extraordinary being to withstand that force.
@Return to the Old World The elves and wizards knows this language, in fact Gandalf speaks in black speech in the felowship of the ring in the extended version, Elrond too understands this language, and well in the old scrolls, Celebrimbor (the smith who made the rings) wrote something about it too, i think
I always imagined that Sauron hated being called ‘Servant of Morgoth’. He most likely saw it as a reminder of his days when he was merely the first Lt. to the original dark lord, whose own power was many times greater than Saurons own.
Yup and he considered himself to be Morgoth’s successor. At first, Sauron retained some loyalty to his master, as he encouraged the worship of Morgoth amongst the Kings Men in Numenor. However, he also declared himself a god amongst the Haradrim and Easterlings and eventually stopped honoring his old master. According to Tolkien, what made Sauron not as evil as Morgoth at first was that for a long time he served another. Even the Valar offered Sauron a chance to repent. Sauron did not, of course. Once he took the title of Dark Lord, Sauron completed his journey from angelic being to demon lord.
@@KarusMBII These comments aren't a discussion. They're a regurgitation of the same ~10 EPIC FACTS that people always spout on these types of videos. They see EPIC FACTS in wiki articles and youtube videos and then repeat them while pretending that it's their own unique EPIC insight. It's painfully obvious they haven't even done any close reading of Tolkien.
The line itself is just a great diss,calling Sauron a servant instead of a “dark lord” in that situation implies that even with all his power,he is still lesser than beings that have been defeated before.
@@Jalen67727 true. also saying that despite trying really hard to gain his power over middle-earth, he still doesn't have and will never have enough power to achieve his goal
Thats because its a sly dig at how Sauron was Morgoths right hand servant, She was basically saying "you are not a Dark Lord you are just a Cheap Knock-off".
"you should have stayed dead" that line is more heartbreaking when you realize elrond probably knew some of the nine before they became corrupted by sauron
We can all agree that the Hobbit trilogy was *vastly* inferior to The Lord of the Rings, and took *way* too many liberties with the book. People will say "there's only one book, they only needed one movie," and to that I say "There's simply too much story in the book to fit it all into one movie that's less than six hours long, and true to the book at the same time. They could have done it in two." But it was pretty obvious Peter Jackson was going for padding, nostalgia, and appeasing the feminists, plus the excessive CGI was shameful.
@@Emper0rH0rde Oh please, the Lord of the Rings was full of shit too, it took even more liberties. Far too many, and the wrong ones. At least the Hobbit movie adapted to the later worldbuilding of LotR and The Silmarillion.
@@Emper0rH0rde you're going to say the hobbit was inferior to the lotr movie because of taken liberties, you're going to hear the same thing returned. The lotr movies, as adaptions, sucked for all the liberties they took, turning Aragorn and Denethor into monsters at times when they should have been showing their strengths, were inexcusable changes.
What I don't like is how Saruman, a Maia, is just standing there looking horrified while Galadriel does all the work, and btw I definitely think that at full power Sauron would overpower any of the White Council.
THis is such a great display of how the magic in Tolkien's universe works. It is not based on saying spells and waving around wands or staffs. It is based on the power of words to alter reality. When Galadriel says "You have no power here" she is speaking into reality a new fact. The fact that Sauron can't do shit. This is basically the same thing Saruman attempts through Theoden king, when he says the same line. Or what Gandalf does when he tells the Balrog it cannot pass.
Yeah I love it. It's like she is banishing him and it requires a battle of wills where she has to firmly state he is nothing, no name, no face, no form.
or when Gandalf says "your staff is broken" Sauraman looks at his staff and the staff breaks as if the staff just realized this fact "oh alright then, guess ill shatter"
too bad we didnt get it from rings of power. I guess amazon keeps true to his tradition of shattering, mostly delivery items, at this instance dreams of proper LoTR content.
One of the most emotionally satisfying scenes in all of film. Tolkien himself doesn't even describe what happened, merely mentioning that the white council banded together to drive the Necromancer out of Mirkwood. And that was fine for the purposes of the story he was telling. But it was incredible to see this dramatic adaptation.
I honestly thought that this scene was completely made up and that in the books, the eleven army completely razed the area, therefore banishing Sauron as he had lost his power of corruption over the area.
@@noelnaumann1542 In the Hobbit it's only hinted at, but it's discussed in more detail in the Silmarillion. I believe everyone present was also present in the Silmarillion version and the base storyline is the same. The Silmarillion reads kind of like a rough first draft because Tolkien never finished it before he passed away, so parts of it aren't fully flushed out.
Tolkien wasn't big on "action scene" situations. His focus was on the story. That said, this and the duel between Gandalf and the Balrog *were* really great to see on-screen.
In my opinion instead of being called a Sorcerer/first Dark Lord, Morgoth falls under a more Demonic quality than Sauron who was merely a Maiar similar to the 5 wizards sent to Middle Earth. Morgoth was of a higher level and therefore has a more Evil Spirit/God vibe than Sauron who I say is a more traditional Dark Lord.
@@benhuether5474 Well , Sauron is Maiar , same as Gandalf and Saruman , but in diffrent form , and much more powerful. Morgoth is Valar , the part of Tolkien's Pantheon , so he is a god technically. Anyway Morgoth was much weaker later , because he used much of his power, corrupting middle-earth. He also can't create anything , because he was banished from the creation by the Erü himself , so he was defeated. Anyway he is the god so if Sauron is Saruman, then Morgoth is Sauron with Ring , this is what I think. Also Sauron was interested only in Middle-earth, when Morgoth in whole Arda. When Sauron had Nazguls , Morgoth had Balrogs and mountain-size Dragon. What is more mindblowing , Morgoth was defeated once by the giant spider , Ungolianta , mother of Shelob.
To clarify, yes, you are correct, I don't know if it was intentional, but it definitely comes off as something undermining. To clarify the other comments, Sauron/Balrogs/Gandalf and all their ilk are classified as Maia, or Maiar. Morgoth is a Valar, and created by the creator. Eru did not intervene against Morgoth, nor did he allow his children ( the rest of the Vala) to do so directly, either. What trapped Morgoth was taking an "earthly" form, by crowning himself - Morgoth confined himself to his station, much to Elu and the rest of hte Vala's amusement. This limited him in power, which is why Utumno was sacked fairly easily and Morgoth thrown in chains later - though the rest of the story isn't so clear-cut.
@@Andurhil LOTR has way to much lore for me to keep up with. I know that Morgoth was the one who corrupted Sauron and unintentionally groomed him to be the next Dark Lord but what happened to Morgoth after he was defeated? Is he still around during Sauron's reign and after his defeat? Was he ultimately killed? Would he ever return?
Not really. It reads like a fuckin' fanfic and ruins part of the narrative of the original LotR movies. Instead of Sauron's return being heralded merely by bad omens and dark whispers on the wind, he's just there like "yo, it's me--Sauron, your boy!" and nobody fucking mentions that later on. It's like they all just forgot it.
"You have no power here servant of Morgoth!" That, for me, is the best part of the Hobbit trilogy because up until then I thought that Sauron was the be-all-end-all bad guy, which is understandable he is the title character of the lord of the rings trilogy and I hadn't read the books then, the movies certainly gave us the impression that he was the biggest baddie ever in middle earth. But then I saw this in cinemas and I was blown away. Of course I had heard the word "Morgoth" before when Gandalf said "A Balrog of Morgoth", but at the time I thought Morgoth was a place. The idea of Sauron being someone's servant... makes whoever his master was sound terrifying. In Germany they say "Fear makes the wolf bigger than he is." Perhaps people's fear of Sauron makes him more powerful than he actually is.
For as mighty as Sauron was, he lost most the highlighted 1v1 battles he took part in. I always liked that in Tolkiens writing. The "bad guys" often gave the perception of being all-powerful but when you "stand true" against the dark good things happen. Feel free to look up any of a number of lotr quotes here involving hope lol
Someone wrote a comment on another video about why when Rohan arrives at Minas Tirith they shouted death and why it made Theoden redeemed. Their reasoning was that Sauron’s chief ability was to spread fear among men. It’s why his 9 men took the rings: they were afraid of moving on and leaving behind everything they had. It’s why initially Gondor and Rohan were weak than their golden days: their men were driven by fear. It’s why Theoden arrived for the final battle at Gondor and shouted “Death”: he had overcome that fear; he knew he won’t survive it but he’s willing to die for his fellow men.
@@nfinitecontradiction6758 He personally murdered the last High King of the Noldor elves with his bare hands, I wouldn't scoff at his fighting abilities
@Nicholas Clarke Interestingly the more you read of Tolkien outside of LOTR or The Hobbit, the more you realize those stories are actually scaled down in comparison to a lot of what happens. The big battle against Morgoth just dwarfs any fight in the Third Age (when LOTR happens). He had a dragon so big that its dead body crushed _three_ mountains. He had multiple Balrogs, he had a terrific lieutenant in Sauron, and he was doing so well it took Tulkas, champion of the Valar (none of whom we see in the TA) to defeat him. Then long after the Sauron stuff, there's a rebirth of evil and a final fight in which all this happens again. So basically the story that became most popular is actually the least epic. And in a way, I think that was intentional by Tolkien because it allows him to draw more attention to the characters themselves rather than how freaking big Ancalagon the Black is.
No matter what you think of the scene -- can we just take a moment to appreciate that a legend like Christopher Lee, who could barely walk at this point, not only has one of the most impressive collection of movies to his name, but also (as a Tolkien fan) got to kick some ghostly ass like the bad-ass he really was? I couldn't imagine someone else as Saruman now, thanks to him. What a great role to play, and a greater man to play it. You can see the huge conflict of emotion and despair when he finally sees for himself just who is returning to middle-earth.
Fact is, Christopher Lee was a good friend of Tolkien. He met him when they were young and would actually discuss about the book. He was also honoured to play as one the characters from his friend's tale.
This actually makes me wonder what Saruman was thinking when he realized Sauron was back. Mairon and Curumo apparently knew each other when working under Aule.
What's funny is Tolkien had Christopher Lee tapped to play Gandaulf if a film adaptation had ever been made. That is how long the man's career was, and how well he was regarded.
I love how she calls him out as "Servant of Morgoth" and not by his name....almost like belittling him....Probably my 2nd favorite scene in the Jackson movies behind the Charge of the rohirrim
Yeah, that's the point. By stripping Sauron of his name, Gal is stripping him of his power, his influence. By calling him a "servant of Morgoth," Gal is saying Sauron is MERELY a servant. Unworthy, underwhelming. By say Sauron is faceless and formless, she is stripping him of being able to manifest where they are in the scene. By Gal's power and her ring, her words become reality. One that even Sauron has to obey.
Galadriel is definitely the most powerful elf on middle earth at the time. Both of her grandfathers were THE High Elven Kings of both the Noldor and the Teleri. Her great uncle was the High King of the Teleri on middle-earth. She personally saw the light of the two trees in Valinor, learned/trained under Melian, the Maia, for countless years, and she possessed a ring of power. She was a BADASS.
Yea she's Ancient literally, she's almost like a god in her own right. The equivalent to sauron. Wait so if sauron retrieved the one ring would he be able to destroy galadriel, probably yes? Cause even she fears sauron getting the ring back. Idk
@@AnnaBellaChannel No it isn't Galadriel and has already been married for thousands of years and has a 1000 year old child at the time of Rings of Power.
Is nobody gonna talk about how badass Elrond was in this scene? Armor and skills were incredible I love it. Galadriel and Saruman were both amazing too but Elrond was incredible
There’s understandable risk with being overshadowed when you’re the only member of the White Council to focus on martial abilities over magic. So it makes perfect sense to make it plain that Elrond is amongst the best at what he does 🙂
I found both amazing but Saruman better. Hes 92 at this too, did you catch the parry with both sides of the staff and simultanious shield? So incredibly well acted AW.
When Saruman reached out at first, I thought it was a hint of his temptation towards evil because we know he ultimately becomes a villain. When the camera cut back to him, I realised that he was using the same gesture that Galadriel used to banish Sauron, so he was actually helping her. Heck, he was quicker on the uptake than she was since he didn't bother monologuing, he just tried to banish Sauron straight away. As for Elrond, he just backed off and let his more powerful colleagues to their thing.
@@discomfort5760 Elrond bore the blue ring. Galadriel the white. Gandalf the red. Al three Elven rings were present. Galadriels enhanced her ability to see into the minds of all sentient creatures.
I love how they added the threat of the Nazgûl and the reveal that Sauron was the necromancer. In the book I always was a bit confused as to why they required the ENTIRE white council to drive the necromancer out of Mirkwood. By adding the additional threat of the Nazgûl- it adds a whole new level of danger and explains why they needed so many power houses here.
Galadriel was described by Tolkien as an equal to Feanor (creator of the Silmarils). She was the daughter of Finarfin (the wisest and fairest of the Noldor), niece to Fingolfin (the most valiant) the Noldor king who wounded Sauron's lord, Melkor. Like Mairon (Sauron) she studied under Aule and was one of 2 on Middle Earth aside from Sauron who could have wielded the One Ring due to her exceptional willpower. In other words, she wasn't afraid of what Sauron could do to her, she was only afraid of what she would do to herself if she used her power to overcome him.
I'm pretty sure she is also the oldest and probably most powerful elf alive during the events of the Hobbit and the LotR. And others have defeated Sauron when he was still more powerful. Even if this scene is not exactly described in the books, I still think it fits in very well.
Three of the Istari, two of the most powerful Elves of Middle-earth, the Nine Nazgûl, and the Dark Lord himself in one single scene. This is EPIC, no matter where you’re seeing it from. Well done, Mr. Jackson! 👏🏻
@@chadoakley8505 Funny how in that particular scene, Sauron has the Nine Rings of Men, some of the Seven Rings of Dwarves(the others was lost to dragon fire) and the Three Elven Rings of Elves.
I love Saruman's look of arrogance and offense when the Nazgul turn his way right before the fight starts. With only the look in his eyes Christopher Lee conveyed "I am the white wizard, no shade can stand before me nor block my path." Seeing him in action using his powers was one of the great joys of this trilogy. Makes me wish we had seen Saruman on the front lines, wrecking Rohirrim soldiers at the head of the Helms Deep army. I like to imagine how things would have turned out of Saruman had taken Helm's Deep and had taken his war machines and massive Uruk army to assault Minas Tirith alongside the Witch King
When you put it that way, I really wanna see Saruman vs The Witch King against the back drop of LOTR. Like, if Saruman turned up at Minas Tirith and ended up changing his mind in the battle and joining Gandalf. Or if the pair of them had a disagreement over something (best way I could think to put it) and it turned into Men vs Witch King vs Saruman
This THIS is Galadriel in all her glory. This is the 2nd most powerful being in Middle Earth absolutely tossing everyone to the side. Say what you want about The Hobbit trilogy but this entire scene is pure gold. Not in the books but shows her true power, ROP could never.
@@ASSASSIN19923 They had to rely on CGI cos they were not afforded the time to do a proper prep. Heck for a good portion of the 2nd and 3rd movies, Jackson operated without storyboards or even a proper locked down script!
@@ASSASSIN19923 Too much CGI, maybe, but mostly people didn't like the movies for 2 reasons: 1) The Tolkien fans who have read the book expected something else, faithful to the book (especially its tone), and they believe that Peter Jackson betrayed Tolkien and that the movies are a blasphemy 2) The people who have never read Tolkien, who loved the LOTR movie trilogy, and who expected The Hobbit to be exactly in the same vein. And they were ultimately disappointed because they found the story simplistic and the characters shallow; in short a subpar version of LOTR. "The poor man's LOTR", as it were...
I read somewhere that apparently it was only going to be two movies but the producers pushed them to make it a trilogy which led to a lot of deviations
@C R It's because of his bloodline. Also, he was trained by two of the most amazingly lethal forces of the middle earth for YEARS. He is not a "dude with a torch".
lol...Such good acting....Sauron is like "ah, shit, so much for my entrance..." The 9 are " yup, time to go.."...Elrond is like" Not again..." Saruman is like: "Sauron is scary but HOLY SHIT your mother in law dude...."
Galadriel is like one of the most powerful characters in Tolkien's entire legendarium and she deserves to be remembered for more than just pretty hair and a long speech. I didn't love most other deviations from the book in these movies, but this one was fantastic and served a purpose.
I mean this is from the lore, Tolkien never explained how they fought but just says they confronted the Necromancer, unfinished tales talks about how Sauron knew she was his biggest Foe when he was in fair form before the rings were made. She’s always been more than just pretty hair and long speech.
@@nolanschmidt1065 Tolkien does state that it was "by the devices of Saruman" that Sauron was driven out of Dol Guldur. Although the entire White Council took part, that reads like Saruman took on the chief role. Galadriel's real feat is when she destroys the actual fortress itself and cleanses the entire forest of Mirkwood during the war of the ring, which is even more impressive imo
Tolkien explicitly states that "Galadriel was the greatest of the Noldor, except Feanor maybe, though she was wiser than he." Unless you're only judging by pure physical strength, then no, Galadriel is far more powerful than those you listed save Feanor.
I think this fight scenes shows how nimble and powerful Sauruman is - he may be guised as an old man but he easily holds his own against the nazgul, not even letting them land a single hit on him - and he also seems to have some kind of shield on him or uses some kind of blast at 1:52 when two of the nine come at him from both sides and he only focuses on one Tremendous power in the original White Wizard and I love it
This scene alone justifies the existence of all 3 Hobbit movies. It's a delight seeing all 5 of these characters... or should I say, FIFTEEN characters, in a scene together.
Omg, this scene in the minute 1:51 is by far the most epic sequence of action I saw in The Hobbit saga EVER. The CGI there looks so clean and smooth and the sound design when tossing the Nâzgul out of the cliff is just PERFECTION!
Elrond coming in always gives me chills. Like, this dude is the son of Earendil (and the brother of the first king of Numenor). He had the right to take the title of “High King of the Noldor” after Gil-Galad’s death (but never took it). In this moment he looks like the High King of the Noldor.
There are only 3 High-Kings at any given time. The OG's were • Ingwë High-king of the Vanyar and King of all Elven Tribes • Finwë, High-king of the Noldor • Elwë aka Thingol, High-king of the Teleri Ingwë is still alive and well. And the Vanyar are completely intact. After Elwë's death, the High-kingship passed to his grandson; Dior, who was killed in the Second Kinslaying. Dior's daughter and Elwë's great-grandaughter; Elwing, would later marry Eärendil and become mother to Elrond and Elros. After Finwë's death, the High-kingship passed to his eldest son; Fëanor. Then after the Rebellion, the Noldor split into 3 factions with Fëanor as High-king and Fingolfin and Finarfin as Kings. Following Fëanor's death and the extinguishment of his line and faction, the High-kingship passed to Fingolfin, Fëanor's first half-brother. After Fingolfin's death, the High-kingship passed to Turgon, King of Gondolin. Turgon's grandson was Eärendil and his great-grandsons were Elrond and Elros. Since both their parents (Eärendil and Elwing) were Half-Elvens, the siblings; Elros and Elrond were too. All 4 got a choice: be man or elf. The parents chose to be elves, Elrond chose to be an elf as well while Elros chose to be a man. Elros became High-king of the Numenoreans while Elrond became...no one. But as the great-great-grandson of High-kings Elwë and Finwë, Elrond is the High-king of both the Noldor and Teleri. I honestly don't know, and Tolkien has failed to explain, how Gil-Galad ever became the High-king of the Noldor.
@@princepscivitatis4083 There was apparently a later revision in which Gil-Galad is Orodreth’s son (Finarfin->Androd->Orodreth->Gil-Galad) and that Turgon’s succession did not count. The other is that Gil-Galad is Fingon’s son. But yeah it’s…odd.
Gil galad was the last king by male line. Earendil came from idril daughter of turgon. Thats a female line so he is disqualified. Gil galad was either fingon son or orodreths so male line from finwe. He had no sons so when he died no more kings.
are we really going to ignore Elrond's badass line when he says "you should have stayed dead"? and once again, Hugo comes back with his amazing acting and delivery!
After reading the Silmarillion, I like to think of this as a sort of “revenge” for Galadriel in a way on behalf of her brother Finrod. Finrod lost a “duel” with Sauron that ultimately led to his death back in the first age...I wonder if that was on Galadriels mind here
Right, but it’s interesting to consider. Galadriel has known/known of Sauron for thousands of years at this point, so I think she would accept any victory over him. Probably just felt good for her knowing their past
The Son of Earendil decides to keep his Mother-in-law company while she goes out to tell off the bully at the park who was beating up her favorite Maiar on the playground.
I love the slap in the face of sauron by calling him servant of morgoth, he is trying to replace the dark lord, but is being told just how low he really is being a former servant of the previous dark lord
Meetalo not any elf, the second greatest Noldor, only surpassed by Fëanor... If Lúthien scared the shit out of Sauron you'd think that only Galadriel should be enough.
I uttered those same words minus the Morgoth bit to an ominous faceless man who appeared to me in a mushroom trip, this scene gave me chills. I gotta start exercising more caution dabbling with the dark arts or as Jung would say, "beware of unearned wisdom"
I interpret Galadriel's fear in this scene as fear for Middle Earth. She knows she can defeat them but is in shock and seeing things of the future unfold as they approach her.
Galadriel is not just an Elf. 1. she is one of the firstborn Elves, and they were more powerful than the Elves which were born later. 2. she is an Eldar, (the Elves who went to Valinor and who have seen the light of the two trees), and they are more powerful than the Avari (the "Dark" Elves who never left Middle Earth). She was maybe even born in Valinor, but I'm not sure, but she spent an age there with Valar and Maiar, increasing her power. 3. When she returns to Middle Earth she spents another age close to Melian, a Maiar also. The Elves who are close to Maiar or Valar increase their power a lot (like Thingol who lived with Melian and became one of the most powerful Elf in Middle Earth). 4. Tolkien says that Galadriel is one of most the powerful Elves ever, after Feanor. He says that she is close to Feanor in her power and strength, but she is wiser. The light that she uses to expel Sauron is something she made and that is powerful and similar to Silmaril. She gives this later to Frodo in LOTR to protect him. 5. Tolkien says that after the White Council expels Sauron from Dol Guldur, Galadriel destroys it completely. He says that Galadriel was protecting Lothlórien with her power and her ring (similar to Melian in the first age) and that no one would be able to destroy Lothlórien unless Sauron himself will attack it. 6. She had one of the 3 Elven rings, Nenya, the ring of water, which incrased her power. That's why she looks a bit like she is under water in this scene. 7. Tolkien also says that she was able to read mind of Sauron, but he couldn't read hers. She has a gift of foresight and she can read minds. 8. Tolkien says Sauron wasn't exactly expeled from Dol Guldur. He was weakened at that time after losing his ring and physical form, so he decided to retreat to Mordor and gather his strength. ... With all this being said, I agree Galadriel looks too dark, weird and sort of evil in this scene. I think Jackson overdid it, and I prefer the look of Galadriel in LOTR. EDIT: However, in LOTR (the book) Gandalf says that the white council managed to expel Sauron from Dol Guldur because of Saruman and his "devices", but he gives no more information. So according to the original tale, I guess the Saruman was the one who expelled Sauron
This is one of my favorite battle scenes, and one which I especially got to see Saruman actually fighting for the side of the 'Light' instead of having become a 'thorn' to Gandalf and the rest of the Fellowship.
This scene managed to capture how powerful Saruman was. When Elrond appeared, the 9 kings were still, but once Saruman shows himself they jumped back. Saruman is a mayar, just like Sauron. No jokes about his power.
that's why they were all fecked when Saruman switched sides: literally, the two most powerful (and corrupt/evil) mayar joined forces; hell, even Tolkien himself named the second book after that unholy alliance
@@jjrj8568 Technically he didn't. If you look into the history behind the books, he originally wanted to release the entire story in one big volume. However, the UK was having a bit of a paper shortage crisis at the time, and he was forced to split it into a trilogy. This is why the "section" dividers still exist in most prints of the books today. That was Tolkien's original method of story beat separation. But as for the Two Towers, he's on record saying he regrets choosing that name, as it left far too much to be interpreted by others, and most people assumed he meant Orthanc and Barad-dûr, when he actually originally meant for it to mean a variety of pairs of towers featured in the books, leaving us to decide, but he later stated that he disliked that idea and wished he'd gone with a better title. So, you could be right, and probably are, but in Tolkien's mind, he was never thinking specifically of those two exact towers.
Personally, I feel that 50% of the reason the 9 kings freaked out is they saw Christopher Lee and thought to themselves "Christopher Lee is Saruman? We are so effed!" lol. I guess that's my colorful way of applauding Mr. Lee's incredible performance. I don't think any other actor could radiate that kind of power in their performance at that age, perfect for that role.
@@feshpince7181 i actually thought the two towers possibly meant Minas Tirith and Minas Morgul back when i was reading before the movie was released. i was surprised by the certainty with which the movie announced what the Two Towers meant when the book had been so vague about it! but i do agree with Tolkien on this. it bothered me quite a bit while reading when i couldn't really make a strong connection of the title to the story. basically, i did not like the vagueness.
Seeing Sarauman look so disgusted when the Nazgul turned to oppose him honestly kills me. Even as he was beginning to covet the One Ring, he still was committed to opposing the darkness in Middle Earth. Christopher Lee played him so well
Christopher Lee managed to play Saruman one last time before he himself, sailed for the Undying Lands with Ian Holm.
Bruh that’s beautiful
You sir, have my greatest respect.
"Leave Sauron to me" :(
I love your comment
I'm glad he was able to play Saruman for this movie because it would be super sad seeing someone else play Saruman and he is one of my favorite actors because of Count Dooku.
Galadriel: YOU HAVE NO POWER HERE
Saruman: huh, that's a cool line; I'll remember that
hahahahahaha
Lol
Hahahaha
Write that down, write that down!
"Write you fool" killed me.
Galadriel: *starts speaking in a deep echoey voice*
Sauron: Understandable, have a nice day.
Lol xD
Lmaooo
You summed it up perfectly lololol
😂😂😂😂😂🔥
He even tells her to chill
4:15
“You should have stayed dead.”
The way Hugo Weaving delivers that line gives me chills.
Great line, but I can't help but hear it in my mind as "You should have stayed dead, Mr. Anderson."
@@khriss867 this has to have been an intentional reference
Except they have never actually died here. They were corrupted by their rings and transformed to wraiths
1:35
@@frnt2bakYes but they were believed to be dead after Sauron’s defeat by Isildur. And were as close as dead as they could get.
The last masterpiece of Christopher Lee is the expression on Saruman's face when Sauron appears. He seems scared, deeply shocked but at same time nearly attracted by the terrible power of the Dark Lord. The fall of Saruman begins in this moment.
Fine actor and amazing character.
Its like he tries waving at him, or cast a dud spell
i firmly believe he was already seduced by his power and was covering when he told gandalf he was not back.
hardwire yeah, that’s true
Not bad you.
They we're both Maia from Aule so they're like siblings
Everybody gangsta till Galadriel starts glowing and speaking with a deep voice.
@@X22-p4t Look into "German New Medicine"
she will bow before sauron soon
@@sw-4733 uhhhh what?
@@sw-4733 She wont lol
@Thomas Robinson She never did any of what you see in this video either.
But yes it's a strange comment.
When Galadriel tells you to go back from whence you came, you go back from whence you came.
Angry Grandmothers are really scary, you see.
And then you make something even BETTER than her hair. To spite her.
@Jordan I subbed to you for this comment
G. Go back from whence you came.
S. I'm good.
G. This is non-negotiable.
*For a little while.
You know, seeing Saruman as a friend and ally fighting alongside Elrond is awesome, but it's tragic at the same time when you realize what he becomes in the original trilogy.
You know, the main reason why he got evil Was because he looked in the palantir, at first, he wanted to learn what sauron is thinking/plans so the humans would have a higher Chance of Winning.
But sauron corrupted his soul and mind, he became after the first Look in the palantir more and more evil over time.
The other main reason why he changed so much was, he was(after he looked in the palantir) afraid of sauron, because he thought that the humans no matter what wont win against sauron.
The main Difference from saruman and gandalf is, that saruman thought only great Power can hold evil abay,, but gandalf thought also in an other way, i mean, do you think sauron would have Experten that 2 Hobbits will bring him down? If someone would have told him that, he would just lough about it.
But thats the point, gandalf no matter if there were ever any chances to win against sauron, still would not give up.
Gandalf thought with his heart aswell, while saruman just thought with his mind
And because saruman didnt find a way how to defeat sauron, he got mad.
@@havershelihaversheli i thought saruman used the palantir in his own selfish quest for the ring, and was ensnared by sauron after a battle of wills
🙂🙂 the white hand shall not be stopped
@@adamwarlock8263 The Palantir makes even the most sane people go crazy eventually. Remember how Denethor went completely mad, telling his people to flee for their lives and even trying to burn Faramir? Yeah, the Palantir did that to him.
You can see how utterly terrified of Sauron he is. I know he turns to his own greed, but I always like to think he just gave up and thought none could ever truly stand against Sauron's might.
That moment when Lady G calls out Sauron by calling him “servant of Morgoth” was the best part of the whole Hobbit trilogy.
Trevor Rotan
Uh-huh... But I`m sure she realizes that he was the servant AND disciple, and later, traitor of Morgoth, took almost all of his powers. Add to that the power he`s already had as the most powerful balrog in history.
And only the 14 Valar along with the Maiar and the elves of Valinor could defeat Melkor.
So that "insult" is cute, but not entirely realistic ;)
@@whennever8202 you need to seriously stop saying bullshit that isn't true at all lol Sauron never stole Morgoth's powers and it was Gothmog who was (is) the most powerful of Balrog
@@whennever8202 dude dont talk without reading the thing ... sauron is an over aged disciple
@@Boss-ot1iy You need to stop bullshitting, not me.
Both Sauron and the Balrogs were maiar, Gothmog was the Lord of Balrogs, but Sauron was more powerful.
Yes, Sauron took most of Morgoth`s powers. Read the books again.
@@Zvangimo What are you even talking about? Did you read the books? Silmarilions "ring" a bell?
You absolutely don`t remember how it took almost the entire White Council, the elvish ringbearers Elrond and Galadriel included, Saruman, Radagast, Cirdan and Gandalf to attempt directly facing Sauron "without his ring" in Dol Guldur?
Tolkien established that Sauron with his ring was the most powerful being in Middle-Earth, bar probably only Eru who is basically the creator.
Just with his original powers, he was the second most powerful being in Middle-Earth, bar only with an Elven Bearer with an Elven Ring.
He was also extremely capable physically. Even the Elves with the Elven Ring could do nothing against him and they even had to take off the rings when they sensed Sauron`s presence through them.
So stop talking like you even read the books - you watched the movies, fangirled Galadriel and now you talk like you have any knowledge on the lore.
"Over-aged disciple" - Dude, chill... Galadriel won`t date you. Bitch almost died fighting Sauron`s shadow...
“Are you in need of assistance my lady” is such a powerful line! So happy that Christopher Lee was able to reprise his role in the Tolkienverse before he passed away. Such a great actor and was perfect for the role!
All he needed was a fedora hat
The tolkienverse?????
I think “You should’ve stayed dead” was a nice touch too.
He was above on 90's !!! He was a master!! 😍😍
@@boblotoldo3051 what, missing yours, incel
Christopher Lee was so excited to do this scene because he got to portray Saruman the White as he should have been, before he was seduced by the power of the Ring. He was almost giddy with excitement when describing it as such in an interview.
Also, he was 92 when filming this. That is inspiring to me (I think he didn’t do the fighting, a double did that in his place to be mindful of his health because of his age)
I actually think this scene ties the story together better. In the books, this all happens before Bilbo is even born. This is also revealed to be when Saruman begins seeking the Ring.
Christopher Lee, our one-true-fan in the movies! (read the books every year)
which interview was it if you recall?
No no, this is when saruman sees saurons true power. This is when saruman starts becoming convinced. He was in awe when seeing saurons appearence. He is a complex character. Is he good? or merely a rational decision maker? a politician like man with no true morality?
Kind, graceful, yet terrifying. This is the Galadriel we know and love.
The Real Galadriel is very different from the Peter Jackson movies
Would still get clapped regardless
@@BrenoSobral17 Yet it's still closer than what we got in the Rings of Power
@@comtruise402😂
I wish her magic was beautiful like Gandalf's. The elven rings made them just as strong. She did level the place, after all.
I am not alone....agent smith and dracula are with me.....
FurryAminal HAHAHAHAHAHAHA yeah yeah or red skull and count doku/darth tyranus
adri2shadow HAHAHA I cantotally see Sauron being called.... Mr. Anderson. LOL
And Count Dooku!
tyraela115 he said Mr Saurerson.. ok i tried too hard xD
FurryAminal BEST COMMENT RUclips from youtube creation good job man
Basicaly the most powerful beings in the middle earth at one place.
Although he doesn't appear in the films, Tom Bombadil is possibly more powerful than any of them (safe for Sauron at his prime).
I would say Bombadil is more powerful than Sauron (though it is very difficult to quantify his power)
The Overlord It's easy. Bombadil is about 7.8 whereas Sauron is around 7,3 maybe even 7,5
I'm pretty sure literally any of the Valar are more powerful that Sauron, and Bombadil seems to be entirely different than anything in Arda.
The Overlord
Is this a joke? Nothing is more powerful than Sauron in his prime, not even close. He is Gorthaur the Cruel. He is the Necromancer of Dol Guldur. He is Annatar, the Lord of Gifts, deceiver of Eregion. The shapeshifter, the illusionist, the master of Draugluin and Thuringwethil. He is Mairon, the Scholar of Aule, former disciple and successor of Morgoth Belegur, once Melkor. His power can not be rationally quantified.
Tom Bombadil? Please...
Elrond protecting his mother-in-law and then being scared by her a few seconds later is probably the best thing of this entire movie
@The No.1 Guy nah only aragorn, arwen, elrond and galadriel are related.
@@thejumper7282 Eomer, Faramir, Eowyn
@@gungeternal4119 how is faramir related to eomer?
@@thejumper7282brother-in-law
@@gungeternal4119 IN-LAW, thats not related
"You should've stayed dead."
Elrond's polite challenge to the Witch-King of Angmar always makes me laugh.
Actually that was khamul the easterling 🤓
@@nathanschmidtke5901 No it wasn't. Not according to the movie!
😋😅
@@tyree9055 ? Your talking about the horned Nazgûl that Elrond went after in the beginning right?
@@nathanschmidtke5901 Yep, the one carrying the oversized, two-handed mace that looks just like the Witch King's flail in The Return of the King.
🙁 look it up then khamul the easterling also carry’s a mace
"You have no power here!"
I love how Saruman just shamelessly steals that to use against Gandalf later.
xd
and failing misserably
No originality at all. What a cheapass.
No wonder Gandalf immediately threw off his cloak and staff smacked him into next week.
@@sarasparks1992 And it's consistent for the two faced being he was. Like when they found a bunch of pipe weed and barrels of beer in Orthanc while he mocked others for their use of those items.
When I see my Boss in public: "You have no power here!!! You are nameless!!!"
Fresco L
"Servant of Morgoth!"
Fresco L hahahaa lol
Fresco L
😂😂😂
But then you go to work the next day and "it's treason than"
next day you get fired
Tolkien mentioned in his books that Garadiel was the oldest and the most powerful elf in Middle Earth and also that except Sauron she was the only one who could master the power of the one ring. So in the fellowship of the ring she refused taking the ring from Frodo, not beacuse she was afraid of its power but beacuse she was afraid of herself and of the things that she would be capable of with that power
Kamil Brychcy Yup, in fact that’s why Gandalf, an angelic being like Sauron, refuse to even handle the Ring. He feared what would happen if he succumbed to temptation and tried to use it.
And a Hobbit is a great agent for secrecy
Yeah, that scene where Gandalf VERY aggressively refuses to take the ring really puts it into perspective. Like, Frodo, bro, you have ZERO IDEA what you are offering me right now, and how incredibly tempting it is.
Also, you learn how good Gandalf is by being able to refuse it like that, even when it is offered willingly. By my count, only Gandalf, Galadriel, and Aragorn are ever able to deny the chance to take the ring when its offered to them, yeah?
@@SquatzMcAllister sam as well?
@@foodb0i I know Sam carried it, and he did willingly give it back, but he wasn't offered it by Frodo (quite the opposite lol) but you're right, I did forget about him 😭
And the Son-in-Law of the Year award goes to Elrond, who was straight-up about to stand between Sauron and Galadriel with a pointy stick.
I mean to be fair, a sword is how sauron was beaten the first time, by isildor, a broken sword at that
@@SelfProclaimedEmperor Won't work here, Sauron has no form to destroy. Same way they couldn't really do anything but temporarily banish the Nazgul with their attacks, even though they all had some degree of magic, but times 100 because Sauron even in this form is far superior to a Nazgul.
Not sure exactly how Galadrial is able to banish him. She has a ring of power but its power is in healing and preserving the world not in being destructive or enhancing magical attacks.
Anyway a sword attack would do nothing to Sauron here.
@@isaacnikolic5895seems like she’s channeling a Vala, Varda’s light. Maybe using a phial of earendil
@@CatMowpurr Ahhh. That makes sense. He's also letting himself be banished but it makes sense how she thinks she could do it for real.
@@isaacnikolic5895 yup, he’s also not at his full strength and like you said, probably better for him to just set up again in Mordor anyway
I love how wildly unconcerned Galadriel is walking into Dol Guldur barefoot, knowing fully that Sauron is back and has a small army at the ready. Then picks up Gandalf like a 3kg lazy house cat to nonchalantly and leaves as if she didn't just dissolve someone's existence from the face of reality.
And this line - "You should've stayed dead" - is literally one of the best in the entire movie series
She didn't know Sauron was back.
Halbrand is Sauron Deceived Galadriel way back .
@@joshuapericano7798 Wow. Spoiler...
Just realized from yesterday episode, Galadriel herself saved Sauron from dying . what a pity and complicated
What I want to know is, why do elves have long hair? Long hair evolved because it protected us from the sun. But in the beginning, during the time of the Two Trees, there was no sun. So what was the purpose of long hair? Galadriel lived since that time so she had long hair for no reason.
The way that Elrond said "You should've stayed dead" made me wonder if he actually knew those men before they turned into wraiths, probably fought with them side by side as well...
They, were, great kings of men. Perhaps the Witch King of Angmar was an abdicated king of Rhudaur?
and he says it like they're some old twats he's dealt with before and can't be bothered with
Kings and powerful sorcerers they were in life, but it's never giving back story for them except for the witch king which only describes his involvement in the fall of Arnor, the other was Kamul who we only knew came from the east.
For the rest there's 0 info, a total shame.
@@David-yb9ee It will be actually great to know about their stories when they still belonged to the realm of men.
@@longxiao9823 I know, the nazgul's are such an interesting characters that deserve a lot more of development from Tolkien.
Let's hope they use them wisely in the Amazon series if possible.
Thanks to Tom Bombadil who played the cameraman...we were able to feast our eyes to this epicness
Uhnderrated joke.
🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂
It's so great he could help with these documentaries.
The scary part is these things are below Tom, do not even matter to him. About as important as an ant war in the rainforest continents away.
Who the hell is Tom bombadil?@@negativezero3107
I love how she completly demeans Sauron by saying you have no power here, servant of morgoth. Same exact situation when Dumbledor calls Voldemort, Tom.
Voldemort is servant of what/who?
@@liamorwhat2665 They're saying that calling Sauron "Servant of Morgoth" is just as demeaning as when Dumbledore calls Voldemort "Tom." I don't fully agree, but that's what they were getting at
@@joepod1125 It's diminishing their Dark Lord status by revealing truths of what they are.
Sauron - Not a Dark Lord of all but an ex servant of a greater power in Morgoth
Voldamort - A half blood boy named Tom Riddle not the all powerful wizard all fear to speak the name of.
@@ArchangelsvoidExactly this, it’s about addressing them by titles which belittle them. Sauron was always Morgoths servant and Voldemort was always a half blood wizard which he despised
@@Lucario9d See above comments
"Leave Sauron to me"
60 years later
"We must join Sauron"
It would be wise my friend.
@@everythingcx8024 i see u did ur homework pretty well lol
@@ayoubalarabi4805 Indeed i did, everybody should do their homework, i hope you did too, it would be wise my friend, other wise you abandon reason for madness lol
@@everythingcx8024 i don’t remember what he says exactly lol, but it has to do with (since when did saruman the wise trade reason with madness) 😂
@@ayoubalarabi4805 lol yeah something like that, glad to see there are more people out there like me you're awesome my friend.
if Peter Jackson hadn't put Saruman in the movie it wouldn't have been Christopher Lee's last role before he passed away. Thank God he did
Actually it was not Christopher Lee's last role at all he had one more voice role in a film called angels in Notting hill right before he died. That was his last official role.
So that Sir Christopher Lee could end his career with a shitty movie?
I don't know if that movie was garbage or not but it seemed to be okay but weird form the clip that I saw of him voicing a teddy bear.
He truly was a wizard... and... more dangerous and charming then in the movies.
The Girl from Nagasaki would have been a way greater last movie.
I love how she just holds Gandalf as if he weighs nothing, it’s subtle but it shows how she is much more powerful than she appears
She's actually buff as shit under that dress
Probably very strong.
@@mitchbarredo3990 definitely as she is an elf from the first age and the ony one left to gaze upon the 2 trees of valinor
Very late reply, but she does the same thing in the Lord of the Rings trilogy. In the mirror scene, she casually holds out a large pitcher full of water and slowly pours from it as if it weighs nothing.
@@alltat I hadn’t considered that about that scene you’re right
Watching Saruman laying the smack down was glorious. The sound and effects teams really did a great job of making his blows feel like they had a weight and an impact behind them.
Agreed
If Sauron already looked this terrifying, I wonder how terrifying Melkor must have been...
He was giant probably he also controlled all the balarogs and shelobs mother so yeah
He was much more powerful. When he started using his powers for dark purposes, his influence was so strong that the elves cursed him and changed his name. Rather than referring to him as Melkor (his true name), they started calling him “Morgoth, Black foe of the World”. You have to be pretty malicious to get that title from the graceful elves.
Preston Thompson i believe the first one to call his Morgoth was Feanor, maker of the Silmarils who was eventually killed by the King of the Balrogs
You're kind of already looking at him. The in books, Sauron was beautiful and used his beauty to carve his deceptions. The suit of armour you see in the opening of the fellowship is essentially Morgoths armour from the books.
@@elasticater8429 Isnt Saurons mace named after Morgoths hammer as well? Grond.
Damn Galadriel really just beat Sauron by roasting and humiliating him in front of his servants 😂
His servant were already deleted by galadriel
Poor sauron he show up twice in all the movies just to get his fingers cut once and bullied back into the void another. I start to undertstand why he kinda always pissed off.
@@thebrokenmask8304 well sauron was in the void, face to face he would win easy
He is a servant himself after all 😂
Yea, he's really suppose to show why he's the boss. I'd strip off my goth clothes after this a** whipping 😏
I love how Galadriel looks drenched in water when she's directly harnessing the full power of Nenya (otherwise known as the Ring of Water). That was a nice touch.
Actually Nenya was not a ring with power for attack, hence she can´t "harness" its power(s). Nenya´s power was preservation/concealment from evil. She used it to keep Lothlorien intact. So in this case she did definitely not use the power of "protection" ring (Nenya) - more likely her own magical abilities (she is on of the oldest elves - the first ones, well at least some of them, were almost on par with Maiar, speaking in terms of power) with perhaps Light of Eärendil (Phial of Galadriel, which she gave later to Frodo).
Please some one tell me what your trying to say in ever detail you want to put in. Y’all got me hooked.
Nenya's powers are defensive, which does include concealment, but is not limited to it. If you believe that Nenya has no active defensive power against Sauron's evil and his armies (as demonstrated in this scene), then you have been misinformed.
Galadriel could, and does, harness the power of Nenya as its bearer, to differing degrees and for different purposes. It enhances her own inherent power. In this case, she utilises it for focused active defence, rather than passive generalised defence (as in the case of repelling evil from the borders of Lothlorien). The multifaceted properties of Nenya are written right there in the lore if you care to explore it further.
All 3 Elven rings are present here between, Galadriel, Elrond, and Gandalf
I honestly didn’t like it. It made Galadriel look too scary, evil, and nightmarish, like when she was influenced by the One Ring’s power while being tempted by Frodo’s offer. If they wanted Galadriel to attack with her ring of power, they should have just had her launch a barrage of hydrokinesis.
I love how Saruman covers his face, implying that Sauron is so evil he’s hard to even look at.
He's not merely implying it. Sauron IS so evil that he's hard to look at. Sauron uses terror as a weapon, just as the Nazgul and Durin's Bane do. Merely being in his presence would cause most of us to have a mental breakdown from sheer terror. Being around Sauron is sort of like being hit with the "blue flower" drug from Batman Begins. It takes a truly extraordinary being to withstand that force.
Well, Sauron and Saruman are both maiar and once they both served Vala Aüle - the God Smith. So basically, they were once buddies.
Straight up Lovecraft, dude@@st.jimmy0244
0:23 I love how Sauron reads the beginning of poem but leaves the last part just because Galadriel can complete it and understand Nazgul are coming.
Why she seems scared of the Nazgul If she is so powerful
@@michellesangiorgi9024 It proves that the 'Necromancer Gandalf spoke of is Sauron himself
@@alvarezeldrinjasons.2721 ok thank you mate
all she does in the films is stand mugging at the camera, screaming in the negative filter, or crying afraid.
@Return to the Old World
The elves and wizards knows this language, in fact Gandalf speaks in black speech in the felowship of the ring in the extended version, Elrond too understands this language, and well in the old scrolls, Celebrimbor (the smith who made the rings) wrote something about it too, i think
I always imagined that Sauron hated being called ‘Servant of Morgoth’. He most likely saw it as a reminder of his days when he was merely the first Lt. to the original dark lord, whose own power was many times greater than Saurons own.
Yup and he considered himself to be Morgoth’s successor. At first, Sauron retained some loyalty to his master, as he encouraged the worship of Morgoth amongst the Kings Men in Numenor. However, he also declared himself a god amongst the Haradrim and Easterlings and eventually stopped honoring his old master. According to Tolkien, what made Sauron not as evil as Morgoth at first was that for a long time he served another. Even the Valar offered Sauron a chance to repent. Sauron did not, of course. Once he took the title of Dark Lord, Sauron completed his journey from angelic being to demon lord.
@@WorldWar2freak94 wow please tell me more about all the wiki articles you've read
@@llamzrt Thank you for adding to this discussion. Your insight into LOTR is extremely interesting. Not.
What a completely unnecessary comment.
@@KarusMBII These comments aren't a discussion. They're a regurgitation of the same ~10 EPIC FACTS that people always spout on these types of videos. They see EPIC FACTS in wiki articles and youtube videos and then repeat them while pretending that it's their own unique EPIC insight. It's painfully obvious they haven't even done any close reading of Tolkien.
@@llamzrt also very clear, that you didnt
"you have no power here, servant of morgoth" is just such a powerful line i cant explain why
The line itself is just a great diss,calling Sauron a servant instead of a “dark lord” in that situation implies that even with all his power,he is still lesser than beings that have been defeated before.
@@Jalen67727 true. also saying that despite trying really hard to gain his power over middle-earth, he still doesn't have and will never have enough power to achieve his goal
Thats because its a sly dig at how Sauron was Morgoths right hand servant, She was basically saying "you are not a Dark Lord you are just a Cheap Knock-off".
Well he ain’t a servant when he is the master of the one ring
@@batsoup3504 deep down he is
"you should have stayed dead" that line is more heartbreaking when you realize elrond probably knew some of the nine before they became corrupted by sauron
Was pretty awsome
Book accurate or not. This scene is still freaking BOSS.
We can all agree that the Hobbit trilogy was *vastly* inferior to The Lord of the Rings, and took *way* too many liberties with the book. People will say "there's only one book, they only needed one movie," and to that I say "There's simply too much story in the book to fit it all into one movie that's less than six hours long, and true to the book at the same time. They could have done it in two." But it was pretty obvious Peter Jackson was going for padding, nostalgia, and appeasing the feminists, plus the excessive CGI was shameful.
@@Emper0rH0rde Oh please, the Lord of the Rings was full of shit too, it took even more liberties. Far too many, and the wrong ones. At least the Hobbit movie adapted to the later worldbuilding of LotR and The Silmarillion.
@@RichardLeslieWhereat Lol, lighten up
@@Emper0rH0rde you're going to say the hobbit was inferior to the lotr movie because of taken liberties, you're going to hear the same thing returned. The lotr movies, as adaptions, sucked for all the liberties they took, turning Aragorn and Denethor into monsters at times when they should have been showing their strengths, were inexcusable changes.
What I don't like is how Saruman, a Maia, is just standing there looking horrified while Galadriel does all the work, and btw I definitely think that at full power Sauron would overpower any of the White Council.
Galadriel is the embodiment of "be kind, but take no shit!" love her!!
A queen
Speak softly, and carry a large hammer.
THis is such a great display of how the magic in Tolkien's universe works. It is not based on saying spells and waving around wands or staffs. It is based on the power of words to alter reality. When Galadriel says "You have no power here" she is speaking into reality a new fact. The fact that Sauron can't do shit.
This is basically the same thing Saruman attempts through Theoden king, when he says the same line. Or what Gandalf does when he tells the Balrog it cannot pass.
Yeah I love it. It's like she is banishing him and it requires a battle of wills where she has to firmly state he is nothing, no name, no face, no form.
or when Gandalf says "your staff is broken" Sauraman looks at his staff and the staff breaks as if the staff just realized this fact "oh alright then, guess ill shatter"
And this Galadriel is way way more better than ROP Galadriel. Who needs sword and armor when you can do magic?
@@margarethmichelina5146 y’all keep saying this 🙄 galadriel will get to the point where she realizes she doesn’t need the sword.
@@moonchild4306 But thats just not right. She SHOULD know this already. Shes already over 2000 years old
This sequence right here legitimately makes the entire Hobbit Trilogy completely worth it, in my opinion…this was top tier LOTR.
Agree 100%. This may be one of the best scenes in anything, ever
No, this scene is trash
@@majorhumbert676 you're really under every single comment just trying to be an asshat, it's giving obsessed vibes
too bad we didnt get it from rings of power. I guess amazon keeps true to his tradition of shattering, mostly delivery items, at this instance dreams of proper LoTR content.
Gotta see more of High-Level party gameplay. It's amazing.
One of the most emotionally satisfying scenes in all of film. Tolkien himself doesn't even describe what happened, merely mentioning that the white council banded together to drive the Necromancer out of Mirkwood. And that was fine for the purposes of the story he was telling. But it was incredible to see this dramatic adaptation.
I honestly thought that this scene was completely made up and that in the books, the eleven army completely razed the area, therefore banishing Sauron as he had lost his power of corruption over the area.
@@noelnaumann1542And I thought that you're gay...
@@madleykool8968 sorry to disappoint you pal, but I’m sure you will find a d!ck somewhere just keep looking
@@noelnaumann1542 In the Hobbit it's only hinted at, but it's discussed in more detail in the Silmarillion. I believe everyone present was also present in the Silmarillion version and the base storyline is the same. The Silmarillion reads kind of like a rough first draft because Tolkien never finished it before he passed away, so parts of it aren't fully flushed out.
Tolkien wasn't big on "action scene" situations. His focus was on the story. That said, this and the duel between Gandalf and the Balrog *were* really great to see on-screen.
I like how she undermined Sauron by calling him a Servant of Morgoth .
That wasn't an undermining, that was a complement.
In my opinion instead of being called a Sorcerer/first Dark Lord, Morgoth falls under a more Demonic quality than Sauron who was merely a Maiar similar to the 5 wizards sent to Middle Earth. Morgoth was of a higher level and therefore has a more Evil Spirit/God vibe than Sauron who I say is a more traditional Dark Lord.
@@benhuether5474 Well , Sauron is Maiar , same as Gandalf and Saruman , but in diffrent form , and much more powerful. Morgoth is Valar , the part of Tolkien's Pantheon , so he is a god technically. Anyway Morgoth was much weaker later , because he used much of his power, corrupting middle-earth. He also can't create anything , because he was banished from the creation by the Erü himself ,
so he was defeated. Anyway he is the god so if Sauron is Saruman, then Morgoth is Sauron with Ring , this is what I think. Also Sauron was interested only in Middle-earth, when Morgoth in whole Arda.
When Sauron had Nazguls , Morgoth had Balrogs and mountain-size Dragon. What is more mindblowing , Morgoth was defeated once by the giant spider , Ungolianta , mother of Shelob.
To clarify, yes, you are correct, I don't know if it was intentional, but it definitely comes off as something undermining. To clarify the other comments, Sauron/Balrogs/Gandalf and all their ilk are classified as Maia, or Maiar. Morgoth is a Valar, and created by the creator. Eru did not intervene against Morgoth, nor did he allow his children ( the rest of the Vala) to do so directly, either. What trapped Morgoth was taking an "earthly" form, by crowning himself - Morgoth confined himself to his station, much to Elu and the rest of hte Vala's amusement. This limited him in power, which is why Utumno was sacked fairly easily and Morgoth thrown in chains later - though the rest of the story isn't so clear-cut.
@@Andurhil LOTR has way to much lore for me to keep up with. I know that Morgoth was the one who corrupted Sauron and unintentionally groomed him to be the next Dark Lord but what happened to Morgoth after he was defeated? Is he still around during Sauron's reign and after his defeat? Was he ultimately killed? Would he ever return?
“Are you in need of assistance my lady?” - Saruman and the impacts his staff make are so OP what an entrance. RIP Christopher Lee TO THIS DAY!
When the guy who you flirted with once keeps stalking you centuries after you ghosted him
Say whatever you want about the Hobbit-trilogy, but this scene is amazing.
Agree 100%
Absolutely.
Dol Guldur was the best part about the Hobbit
Yeah, considering none of that was in the book and it was far shorter. Yeah.
Not really. It reads like a fuckin' fanfic and ruins part of the narrative of the original LotR movies. Instead of Sauron's return being heralded merely by bad omens and dark whispers on the wind, he's just there like "yo, it's me--Sauron, your boy!" and nobody fucking mentions that later on. It's like they all just forgot it.
"You have no power here servant of Morgoth!"
That, for me, is the best part of the Hobbit trilogy because up until then I thought that Sauron was the be-all-end-all bad guy, which is understandable he is the title character of the lord of the rings trilogy and I hadn't read the books then, the movies certainly gave us the impression that he was the biggest baddie ever in middle earth.
But then I saw this in cinemas and I was blown away. Of course I had heard the word "Morgoth" before when Gandalf said "A Balrog of Morgoth", but at the time I thought Morgoth was a place. The idea of Sauron being someone's servant... makes whoever his master was sound terrifying.
In Germany they say "Fear makes the wolf bigger than he is." Perhaps people's fear of Sauron makes him more powerful than he actually is.
For as mighty as Sauron was, he lost most the highlighted 1v1 battles he took part in. I always liked that in Tolkiens writing. The "bad guys" often gave the perception of being all-powerful but when you "stand true" against the dark good things happen.
Feel free to look up any of a number of lotr quotes here involving hope lol
Someone wrote a comment on another video about why when Rohan arrives at Minas Tirith they shouted death and why it made Theoden redeemed. Their reasoning was that Sauron’s chief ability was to spread fear among men. It’s why his 9 men took the rings: they were afraid of moving on and leaving behind everything they had. It’s why initially Gondor and Rohan were weak than their golden days: their men were driven by fear. It’s why Theoden arrived for the final battle at Gondor and shouted “Death”: he had overcome that fear; he knew he won’t survive it but he’s willing to die for his fellow men.
@@nfinitecontradiction6758 He personally murdered the last High King of the Noldor elves with his bare hands, I wouldn't scoff at his fighting abilities
@Nicholas Clarke Interestingly the more you read of Tolkien outside of LOTR or The Hobbit, the more you realize those stories are actually scaled down in comparison to a lot of what happens. The big battle against Morgoth just dwarfs any fight in the Third Age (when LOTR happens). He had a dragon so big that its dead body crushed _three_ mountains. He had multiple Balrogs, he had a terrific lieutenant in Sauron, and he was doing so well it took Tulkas, champion of the Valar (none of whom we see in the TA) to defeat him.
Then long after the Sauron stuff, there's a rebirth of evil and a final fight in which all this happens again. So basically the story that became most popular is actually the least epic. And in a way, I think that was intentional by Tolkien because it allows him to draw more attention to the characters themselves rather than how freaking big Ancalagon the Black is.
Sauron is literally just a simp for Morgoth lmao. Morgoth is everything Sauron wishes he was.
No matter what you think of the scene -- can we just take a moment to appreciate that a legend like Christopher Lee, who could barely walk at this point, not only has one of the most impressive collection of movies to his name, but also (as a Tolkien fan) got to kick some ghostly ass like the bad-ass he really was? I couldn't imagine someone else as Saruman now, thanks to him. What a great role to play, and a greater man to play it. You can see the huge conflict of emotion and despair when he finally sees for himself just who is returning to middle-earth.
Fact is, Christopher Lee was a good friend of Tolkien. He met him when they were young and would actually discuss about the book. He was also honoured to play as one the characters from his friend's tale.
This actually makes me wonder what Saruman was thinking when he realized Sauron was back. Mairon and Curumo apparently knew each other when working under Aule.
Simon Lu. Even if it was a stunt-double, Christopher Lee can at least vicariously enjoy his character having those BAMF moments
What's funny is Tolkien had Christopher Lee tapped to play Gandaulf if a film adaptation had ever been made.
That is how long the man's career was, and how well he was regarded.
He was also a member of the RAF and a writer. He is missed.
I love how she calls him out as "Servant of Morgoth" and not by his name....almost like belittling him....Probably my 2nd favorite scene in the Jackson movies behind the Charge of the rohirrim
She also says “YOU ARE NAMELESS!” It’s so satisfying cause Sauron says he goes by many names.
Galadriel: you mean nameless? 😂
Savage AF
Imagine if she called him Mairon just to rub salt into the wound. Then again, maybe a bit too obscure.
“Beat it, boss’s kid. Go back to the break room from whence you came.”
Ugh. The Rohirrim. That violin theme gives me chills every time 😩 Rohirrim theme > all the other themes in LotR
Yeah, that's the point.
By stripping Sauron of his name, Gal is stripping him of his power, his influence.
By calling him a "servant of Morgoth," Gal is saying Sauron is MERELY a servant. Unworthy, underwhelming.
By say Sauron is faceless and formless, she is stripping him of being able to manifest where they are in the scene.
By Gal's power and her ring, her words become reality. One that even Sauron has to obey.
Galadriel is definitely the most powerful elf on middle earth at the time. Both of her grandfathers were THE High Elven Kings of both the Noldor and the Teleri. Her great uncle was the High King of the Teleri on middle-earth. She personally saw the light of the two trees in Valinor, learned/trained under Melian, the Maia, for countless years, and she possessed a ring of power. She was a BADASS.
Maria Evans Wielding a weapon filled with holy light.
Yea she's Ancient literally, she's almost like a god in her own right. The equivalent to sauron. Wait so if sauron retrieved the one ring would he be able to destroy galadriel, probably yes? Cause even she fears sauron getting the ring back. Idk
Lolnope. Olwe wasn't high king. Elwe was.
I honestly expected her to be Feanor's descendant, I was surprised and relieved she was Finarfin's, because Feanor was an absolute douche
@@adityabhalekar3506 She was stated to be his Equal in all aspects except she was wiser though. so she's basically Feanor but good.
when I see teachers outside of school
'YOU HAVE NO POWER HERE!'
Lol is am done
+Skarlet Johanson hahaha
when the teacher try to say something, after the bell has rung. "you have no power here!"
and yet they're responsible for that grade...... tsk tsk they certainly have power there...
"Go back to the voiiid whence you caaaame!"
Sarumon: Are in need of assistance my lady?
Nazgúl: *screech*
Elrond: You should have stayed dead.
Badass
Screech meaning "oh... we're fucked..."
Sarumon? :))) didn't know he was a digimon
"You have no power here servant of Morgoth. You are nameless, faceless, formless. I still will not marry you."
I wound if she was the one have in prison him
Galadriel still being a boss lady in every age of middle earth. Her and Sauron still screaming at each other. Nothing changes.
She was already married anyway.
@YTistooannoying That's a myth.
@@AnnaBellaChannel No it isn't Galadriel and has already been married for thousands of years and has a 1000 year old child at the time of Rings of Power.
The whole hobbit trilogy was created just as an excuse to this scene be made lol
This scene is one of the most forgettable ones in Hobbit.
@@cybercriminal3110 On the contrary, it's one of the most remembered and talked about in the trilogy.
@@auberginemanproductions1608 Never heard anyone talk about it, and I can see y.
@@cybercriminal3110 It is actually one of the redeeming ones. Edgy much?
@@horsthooden4600 I don't care about it, and have never known anyone caring about it.
Is nobody gonna talk about how badass Elrond was in this scene? Armor and skills were incredible I love it. Galadriel and Saruman were both amazing too but Elrond was incredible
Nice catch by him at the end there too
haha imagine agent Smith fighting with Neo in elven armor and with elven sword :)
There’s understandable risk with being overshadowed when you’re the only member of the White Council to focus on martial abilities over magic. So it makes perfect sense to make it plain that Elrond is amongst the best at what he does 🙂
I found both amazing but Saruman better. Hes 92 at this too, did you catch the parry with both sides of the staff and simultanious shield? So incredibly well acted AW.
Agent smith and Count Dooku save the day
LOL!!!
Hugo weaving
They were there to rescue Magneto!
u forgot Hela(from marvel's Thor)
lol
There's one thing you should always remember:
YOU DON'T MESS WITH THE GALADRIEL
Sauron learned that the hard way
Certainly not when she is wielding the light from one of the Silmarils
Magneto was saved by Lady Tremaine, Red Skull and Count Dooku
Villains gotta stick together.
Don't forget Colonel Dr. Spalko (From Crystal Skull)!
I think we're all trying to forget Crystal Skull.
Blue Boy I enjoyed it. Sure it wasn't like the originals, but whatever.
and Death, Cate will be The Death in Thor Ragnarok
That black speech is so majestic, great work on the sound!
AmxCsifier apparently they recoded Benedict speaking it backwards and reversing the records to enhance the effect
Melkor could beat all of them alone, even if they have sauron on their side.
Neuvostosotilas. Yes of course he is a valar
Who is Melkor? Is he in the movie?
Sun H. Yee Melkor was Saurons master, she was like god, she greated orcs and trolls and created mistymountains.
I like how Elrond simply backs off when Galadriel starts to show her powers.
She activated her Elven Ring of Power, the blue one. It's active effects can damage your party members within five yards, and Elrond knows this.
When Saruman reached out at first, I thought it was a hint of his temptation towards evil because we know he ultimately becomes a villain. When the camera cut back to him, I realised that he was using the same gesture that Galadriel used to banish Sauron, so he was actually helping her. Heck, he was quicker on the uptake than she was since he didn't bother monologuing, he just tried to banish Sauron straight away.
As for Elrond, he just backed off and let his more powerful colleagues to their thing.
@@discomfort5760 Elrond bore the blue ring. Galadriel the white. Gandalf the red. Al three Elven rings were present. Galadriels enhanced her ability to see into the minds of all sentient creatures.
Bad bitch energy
@@tomnorton4277 Elrond is arguably stronger than Galadriel since he bears Vilya the mightiest of the Three.
I love how they added the threat of the Nazgûl and the reveal that Sauron was the necromancer. In the book I always was a bit confused as to why they required the ENTIRE white council to drive the necromancer out of Mirkwood. By adding the additional threat of the Nazgûl- it adds a whole new level of danger and explains why they needed so many power houses here.
When your party consists of 1 warrior to tank and the rest is Mages
There's a melee mage xdxd (Saruman)
this was a good one
ML FOR LIFE
Paladin*
And your demon makes his saving throw vs banishment.
Galadriel was described by Tolkien as an equal to Feanor (creator of the Silmarils). She was the daughter of Finarfin (the wisest and fairest of the Noldor), niece to Fingolfin (the most valiant) the Noldor king who wounded Sauron's lord, Melkor. Like Mairon (Sauron) she studied under Aule and was one of 2 on Middle Earth aside from Sauron who could have wielded the One Ring due to her exceptional willpower. In other words, she wasn't afraid of what Sauron could do to her, she was only afraid of what she would do to herself if she used her power to overcome him.
It shows. When facing him, she was calm and fearless. It was only when she was battling her own dark side that she trembled.
I'm pretty sure she is also the oldest and probably most powerful elf alive during the events of the Hobbit and the LotR.
And others have defeated Sauron when he was still more powerful.
Even if this scene is not exactly described in the books, I still think it fits in very well.
@@sebastianjost the only thing i disagree with your comment is that Cirdan is older, but other than that fully agreed
Nerd check: wasn't Finrod the most beautiful male Noldo?
she’s the only elf on middle earth still alive in this age to have need to two trees of Valinor, correct?
Three of the Istari, two of the most powerful Elves of Middle-earth, the Nine Nazgûl, and the Dark Lord himself in one single scene. This is EPIC, no matter where you’re seeing it from. Well done, Mr. Jackson! 👏🏻
And the three Elven rings all together
@@chadoakley8505 Funny how in that particular scene, Sauron has the Nine Rings of Men, some of the Seven Rings of Dwarves(the others was lost to dragon fire) and the Three Elven Rings of Elves.
Is the necromancer not in fact the witch king of angmar?
@@Sandwich13455 No, Necromancer is always Sauron
@@edryctan672 thanks
I love Saruman's look of arrogance and offense when the Nazgul turn his way right before the fight starts. With only the look in his eyes Christopher Lee conveyed "I am the white wizard, no shade can stand before me nor block my path." Seeing him in action using his powers was one of the great joys of this trilogy. Makes me wish we had seen Saruman on the front lines, wrecking Rohirrim soldiers at the head of the Helms Deep army. I like to imagine how things would have turned out of Saruman had taken Helm's Deep and had taken his war machines and massive Uruk army to assault Minas Tirith alongside the Witch King
Battle for Middle Earth vibes lmao good times
When you put it that way, I really wanna see Saruman vs The Witch King against the back drop of LOTR. Like, if Saruman turned up at Minas Tirith and ended up changing his mind in the battle and joining Gandalf. Or if the pair of them had a disagreement over something (best way I could think to put it) and it turned into Men vs Witch King vs Saruman
Hela saves Magneto while Red Skull and Count Dooku helped her?
@SilentGunman haha I was just about to write a Doctor Who remark, but you beat me. :)
Agent Smith
@@OrthoHoppean Count Dooku, Agent Smith aka Red Skull, and Hela coming to rescue Magneto from Doctor Strange also known as Sherlock Holmes
And a familiar bearded jedi drops down from the sky to say hello.
@@fronatomy6280 Count Dooku, Agent Smith aka Red Skull, Doctor Who and Hela coming to rescue Magneto from Doctor Strange also known as Sherlock Holmes
1:21 the way he swings his sword is so smooth I love it, and then he says that badass line “you should have stayed death” I freaking love Hugo Weaving
I can't forget this man. 2 of the most badass movies and trilogy at that, Lord of the Rings and The Matrix.
@@toytmakz Also V for Vendetta
You forget he is mr smith to haha
"You should have stayed dead, mister Anderson." - Best line in the entire movie.
Why, Mr. Angmar, why, WHY do you persist?
Playboys: "You lost baby girl?"
Real Men: "Are you in need of assistance my lady?"
Neck beard
real simps
@@jaromor8808 Did you just call Christopher Motherfucking Lee a simp?
If you think saying milady will get anybody interested then jesus christ
True
Elrond coming in like a boss made me fangirl. He exudes badass with every step he takes.
Yay! Another Elrond lover!!
This THIS is Galadriel in all her glory. This is the 2nd most powerful being in Middle Earth absolutely tossing everyone to the side. Say what you want about The Hobbit trilogy but this entire scene is pure gold. Not in the books but shows her true power, ROP could never.
people didn't like Hobbit not for story or characters , because of lots of CGI
they expected same special effects like on trilogy
i liked Hobbit but is not a masterpiece
@@ASSASSIN19923 They had to rely on CGI cos they were not afforded the time to do a proper prep. Heck for a good portion of the 2nd and 3rd movies, Jackson operated without storyboards or even a proper locked down script!
@@zahrans if they wanted good CGI, look on Avatar 2 which took almost a decade to make
@@ASSASSIN19923 Too much CGI, maybe, but mostly people didn't like the movies for 2 reasons:
1) The Tolkien fans who have read the book expected something else, faithful to the book (especially its tone), and they believe that Peter Jackson betrayed Tolkien and that the movies are a blasphemy
2) The people who have never read Tolkien, who loved the LOTR movie trilogy, and who expected The Hobbit to be exactly in the same vein. And they were ultimately disappointed because they found the story simplistic and the characters shallow; in short a subpar version of LOTR. "The poor man's LOTR", as it were...
This scene alone makes the whole trilogy worth it. Chills every time
This and Smaug
Yeah, there's a lot to criticize in those movies, but I'm happy we got to see the White Council do its thing.
I read somewhere that apparently it was only going to be two movies but the producers pushed them to make it a trilogy which led to a lot of deviations
60 years later, Aragorn solo's these same ringwraiths..
Bloodline of Beren and Lúthien. Elf, man and Maia!
@C R It's because of his bloodline. Also, he was trained by two of the most amazingly lethal forces of the middle earth for YEARS. He is not a "dude with a torch".
He is a dunedain...basically a super human
@@turinturambar-l3g half eleven! Elrond is his many times great uncle!
"A dude with a torch", as in Elendil's descendant (aka the greatest Dúnedain warrior)
You are pretty surprised by how powerful Elrond and Sauruman are until you see her go full thermo nuclear and even they are shocked haha
lol...Such good acting....Sauron is like "ah, shit, so much for my entrance..." The 9 are " yup, time to go.."...Elrond is like" Not again..." Saruman is like: "Sauron is scary but HOLY SHIT your mother in law dude...."
Galadriel still mad at Sauron after their divorce 🤣
Galadriel: leave or I'll tell your buddies I rejected you...
Sauron: DAMN IT FINE!!!!
🤣🤣
Sauron keeps texting... Galadriel: Seriously FUCK OFF now
Burst out laughing at this X'DDD
Facts
Actually galadriel never even met sauron in close. Also Sauron was always evil, he never became good
I'm living for the way she dramatically falls into Elronds arms.
@G E T R E K T 905 Yeah my parents didnt understand that she spent energy. They just thought Gandalf was so heavy he tired her out by carrying him.
@@nelyaeve7841 lmao
She stepped on a Lego.
she straight up having a seizure
He's a good son-in-law
Galadriel is like one of the most powerful characters in Tolkien's entire legendarium and she deserves to be remembered for more than just pretty hair and a long speech. I didn't love most other deviations from the book in these movies, but this one was fantastic and served a purpose.
I mean this is from the lore, Tolkien never explained how they fought but just says they confronted the Necromancer, unfinished tales talks about how Sauron knew she was his biggest Foe when he was in fair form before the rings were made. She’s always been more than just pretty hair and long speech.
@@nolanschmidt1065 Tolkien does state that it was "by the devices of Saruman" that Sauron was driven out of Dol Guldur. Although the entire White Council took part, that reads like Saruman took on the chief role. Galadriel's real feat is when she destroys the actual fortress itself and cleanses the entire forest of Mirkwood during the war of the ring, which is even more impressive imo
Tolkien explicitly states that "Galadriel was the greatest of the Noldor, except Feanor maybe, though she was wiser than he." Unless you're only judging by pure physical strength, then no, Galadriel is far more powerful than those you listed save Feanor.
@@mattiag.gastaldi9401 mablung? aegnor?? be fr.
@@mattiag.gastaldi9401 Tolkien specifically said that Galadriel was second in power only to Feanor
I think this fight scenes shows how nimble and powerful Sauruman is - he may be guised as an old man but he easily holds his own against the nazgul, not even letting them land a single hit on him - and he also seems to have some kind of shield on him or uses some kind of blast at 1:52 when two of the nine come at him from both sides and he only focuses on one
Tremendous power in the original White Wizard and I love it
3:50 Can we give Tolkien props for writing a language that is the definition of terrifying and ominous?
Ir ez garan....
Bur gahn-maszh..
Dazb Angmu gul-liz ash..
Dag bur-shur nurb ainur......
Burz-khan im'-bro...
Dude i know right!!! It actually legit sounds like pure f*cking evil!
@@assajventress3204 yes......
Tolkein didn't write the whole language, only a little bit, Peter Jackson actually made it based in the ring
Fun fact: he based it on the Finnish language
1:25 *Count Dooku enters the chat.*
"I've been looking forward to this."
Ilúvatar
Manwë
Ulmo
Tulkas
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This scene alone justifies the existence of all 3 Hobbit movies. It's a delight seeing all 5 of these characters... or should I say, FIFTEEN characters, in a scene together.
Omg, this scene in the minute 1:51 is by far the most epic sequence of action I saw in The Hobbit saga EVER. The CGI there looks so clean and smooth and the sound design when tossing the Nâzgul out of the cliff is just PERFECTION!
Elrond coming in always gives me chills. Like, this dude is the son of Earendil (and the brother of the first king of Numenor). He had the right to take the title of “High King of the Noldor” after Gil-Galad’s death (but never took it). In this moment he looks like the High King of the Noldor.
There are only 3 High-Kings at any given time. The OG's were
• Ingwë High-king of the Vanyar and King of all Elven Tribes
• Finwë, High-king of the Noldor
• Elwë aka Thingol, High-king of the Teleri
Ingwë is still alive and well. And the Vanyar are completely intact.
After Elwë's death, the High-kingship passed to his grandson; Dior, who was killed in the Second Kinslaying. Dior's daughter and Elwë's great-grandaughter; Elwing, would later marry Eärendil and become mother to Elrond and Elros.
After Finwë's death, the High-kingship passed to his eldest son; Fëanor. Then after the Rebellion, the Noldor split into 3 factions with Fëanor as High-king and Fingolfin and Finarfin as Kings. Following Fëanor's death and the extinguishment of his line and faction, the High-kingship passed to Fingolfin, Fëanor's first half-brother. After Fingolfin's death, the High-kingship passed to Turgon, King of Gondolin. Turgon's grandson was Eärendil and his great-grandsons were Elrond and Elros.
Since both their parents (Eärendil and Elwing) were Half-Elvens, the siblings; Elros and Elrond were too. All 4 got a choice: be man or elf. The parents chose to be elves, Elrond chose to be an elf as well while Elros chose to be a man.
Elros became High-king of the Numenoreans while Elrond became...no one. But as the great-great-grandson of High-kings Elwë and Finwë, Elrond is the High-king of both the Noldor and Teleri.
I honestly don't know, and Tolkien has failed to explain, how Gil-Galad ever became the High-king of the Noldor.
Ring of power: You can be part of this meeting! LMAO
@@princepscivitatis4083 There was apparently a later revision in which Gil-Galad is Orodreth’s son (Finarfin->Androd->Orodreth->Gil-Galad) and that Turgon’s succession did not count. The other is that Gil-Galad is Fingon’s son. But yeah it’s…odd.
@@princepscivitatis4083 amazing bro 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Gil galad was the last king by male line. Earendil came from idril daughter of turgon. Thats a female line so he is disqualified. Gil galad was either fingon son or orodreths so male line from finwe. He had no sons so when he died no more kings.
"You should've stayed dead"....great...now I'm picturing him as Agent Smith using this exact same line on Neo LOL
1:36 - "You should've stayed dead Mr. Anderson!"
M I S T E R A N D E R S O N
are we really going to ignore Elrond's badass line when he says "you should have stayed dead"?
and once again, Hugo comes back with his amazing acting and delivery!
It was… inevitable.
I don’t think anyone ignored it…
ThTs how I always find this scene
I just search “you should have stayed dead” lol
You should have stayed dead, Mr.Anderson.
That look when Elrond becomes more afraid of Galadriel than Sauron.
thinking ''geez good thing i never cheated on her daughter''
@@kokocaptainqc 😂
After reading the Silmarillion, I like to think of this as a sort of “revenge” for Galadriel in a way on behalf of her brother Finrod. Finrod lost a “duel” with Sauron that ultimately led to his death back in the first age...I wonder if that was on Galadriels mind here
That’s a good take on it.
Interesting observation..he wasn't vanquished though so I don't think it counts as revenge
Right, but it’s interesting to consider. Galadriel has known/known of Sauron for thousands of years at this point, so I think she would accept any victory over him. Probably just felt good for her knowing their past
Ahh yes, the great duel of songs!
Finrod Felagund was a fucking G. Its weird, seems like with Noldorian nobles you either get an arrogant cunt OR a ride or die homie. No in-between.
"So, the daughter of Finarfin, the son of Earendil and two maiar enter a Tower..."
4 maiar
The Son of Earendil decides to keep his Mother-in-law company while she goes out to tell off the bully at the park who was beating up her favorite Maiar on the playground.
Yes four. You forgot about the two maiar that rode off on a sled pulled by rabbits...
And Sauron was waiting for them along with his Nine demon Men.
An elf lord, 4 maiar, one being an elf lord with a pure ring of power, 9 angry hillbilly phantoms and a demented Maia(‘s secretary)
RIP Christopher Lee at the age of 92 he is still kicking nazguls asses
I love the slap in the face of sauron by calling him servant of morgoth, he is trying to replace the dark lord, but is being told just how low he really is being a former servant of the previous dark lord
3 of the 5 wizards in one place...so close.
If only the blue wizards didn't succ
Barrel Rider it is said that the blue wizards helped in the north, stopping saurons enemies from the north aiding him in the war of the ring
Meetalo not any elf, the second greatest Noldor, only surpassed by Fëanor... If Lúthien scared the shit out of Sauron you'd think that only Galadriel should be enough.
They did handle him, really. Aside from destroying the ring driving him back to Mordor and into the open was the most they could really do.
You're wrong. Where ''is it said''?
Everybody gangsta till the elf queen goes Super Saiyan
You have no power here, servant of Morgoth.
You are nameless. Faceless. Formless.
Go back to the void from whence you came.
I uttered those same words minus the Morgoth bit to an ominous faceless man who appeared to me in a mushroom trip, this scene gave me chills. I gotta start exercising more caution dabbling with the dark arts or as Jung would say, "beware of unearned wisdom"
I suppose this line is how they get around Gandalf not knowing about the power growing in Mordor in Fellowship
Toss a coin to your Witcher.
ComfortableInChaos please don’t comment that, it’s gay
so good when you're high. if not it's just awkward
I interpret Galadriel's fear in this scene as fear for Middle Earth. She knows she can defeat them but is in shock and seeing things of the future unfold as they approach her.
She couldn't defeat sauron
That scene with saurman though... Badass... Melee wizard with staff should definitely be in more games
Ever Star Wars game ever: Are we a joke to you?
@@daphnejyothi4795
They don’t use staffs.
And they’re more like monks than wizards.
Look at this cast. Jesus. Every actor fits the role perfectly. Cant imagine others instead of them. What a movie
Galadriel is not just an Elf.
1. she is one of the firstborn Elves, and they were more powerful than the Elves which were born later.
2. she is an Eldar, (the Elves who went to Valinor and who have seen the light of the two trees), and they are more powerful than the Avari (the "Dark" Elves who never left Middle Earth). She was maybe even born in Valinor, but I'm not sure, but she spent an age there with Valar and Maiar, increasing her power.
3. When she returns to Middle Earth she spents another age close to Melian, a Maiar also. The Elves who are close to Maiar or Valar increase their power a lot (like Thingol who lived with Melian and became one of the most powerful Elf in Middle Earth).
4. Tolkien says that Galadriel is one of most the powerful Elves ever, after Feanor. He says that she is close to Feanor in her power and strength, but she is wiser. The light that she uses to expel Sauron is something she made and that is powerful and similar to Silmaril. She gives this later to Frodo in LOTR to protect him.
5. Tolkien says that after the White Council expels Sauron from Dol Guldur, Galadriel destroys it completely. He says that Galadriel was protecting Lothlórien with her power and her ring (similar to Melian in the first age) and that no one would be able to destroy Lothlórien unless Sauron himself will attack it.
6. She had one of the 3 Elven rings, Nenya, the ring of water, which incrased her power. That's why she looks a bit like she is under water in this scene.
7. Tolkien also says that she was able to read mind of Sauron, but he couldn't read hers. She has a gift of foresight and she can read minds.
8. Tolkien says Sauron wasn't exactly expeled from Dol Guldur. He was weakened at that time after losing his ring and physical form, so he decided to retreat to Mordor and gather his strength.
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With all this being said, I agree Galadriel looks too dark, weird and sort of evil in this scene. I think Jackson overdid it, and I prefer the look of Galadriel in LOTR.
EDIT: However, in LOTR (the book) Gandalf says that the white council managed to expel Sauron from Dol Guldur because of Saruman and his "devices", but he gives no more information. So according to the original tale, I guess the Saruman was the one who expelled Sauron
Worked for me. You don't play around when your dealing with Sauron.
I am really sorry. Didn't know it's such a big deal. I'll correct it at once
Vladan Markov how do u know all this stuff it's awesome 😀
well I read a lot of Tolkien books. And there are some very good videos on yt which explain a lot of things about Tolkien mythology ;-)
Vladan Markov cool
This is one of my favorite battle scenes, and one which I especially got to see Saruman actually fighting for the side of the 'Light' instead of having become a 'thorn' to Gandalf and the rest of the Fellowship.
This scene managed to capture how powerful Saruman was. When Elrond appeared, the 9 kings were still, but once Saruman shows himself they jumped back. Saruman is a mayar, just like Sauron. No jokes about his power.
Wizards are lower level maiar than Sauron but still powerful.
that's why they were all fecked when Saruman switched sides: literally, the two most powerful (and corrupt/evil) mayar joined forces; hell, even Tolkien himself named the second book after that unholy alliance
@@jjrj8568 Technically he didn't. If you look into the history behind the books, he originally wanted to release the entire story in one big volume. However, the UK was having a bit of a paper shortage crisis at the time, and he was forced to split it into a trilogy. This is why the "section" dividers still exist in most prints of the books today. That was Tolkien's original method of story beat separation.
But as for the Two Towers, he's on record saying he regrets choosing that name, as it left far too much to be interpreted by others, and most people assumed he meant Orthanc and Barad-dûr, when he actually originally meant for it to mean a variety of pairs of towers featured in the books, leaving us to decide, but he later stated that he disliked that idea and wished he'd gone with a better title. So, you could be right, and probably are, but in Tolkien's mind, he was never thinking specifically of those two exact towers.
Personally, I feel that 50% of the reason the 9 kings freaked out is they saw Christopher Lee and thought to themselves "Christopher Lee is Saruman? We are so effed!" lol. I guess that's my colorful way of applauding Mr. Lee's incredible performance. I don't think any other actor could radiate that kind of power in their performance at that age, perfect for that role.
@@feshpince7181 i actually thought the two towers possibly meant Minas Tirith and Minas Morgul back when i was reading before the movie was released. i was surprised by the certainty with which the movie announced what the Two Towers meant when the book had been so vague about it!
but i do agree with Tolkien on this. it bothered me quite a bit while reading when i couldn't really make a strong connection of the title to the story. basically, i did not like the vagueness.
that's by far the best scene of The Hobbit
"NOOOOOO!" - Goosebumps every single time.
Agreed
This scene is CLASSIC. Show perfectly a psychic battle, u can feel the contenders power, the light n the darkness, u can smell n touch the magic.
Seeing Sarauman look so disgusted when the Nazgul turned to oppose him honestly kills me. Even as he was beginning to covet the One Ring, he still was committed to opposing the darkness in Middle Earth. Christopher Lee played him so well