What I want to hear from you is how to make pet food at home that is balanced nutrition. Including adding supplements. I watched one of your videos, and it tells me not to trust the dog food packages. In that video, I thought you were going to tell me which companies were best but instead you gave me a lot of information that was useless to me because I am a late person and I don’t know how to check up on these companies. Now I’m clicking on this video in hopes that you’re going to help me understand how to make my dog a balanced nutritious meal. If I can cook a balanced nutritious meal for myself and my family, then I should be able to cook one for my dog. Can you please help with that in a future? if you could get together with all of your animal nutritionists and come up with a meal plan, that would be amazing!
The info I gave you about who actual pet nutrition experts are and what the WSAVA guidelines are is the information that you need to know in order to understand *why* so many companies are not recommended. I didn't include specific companies because they will change over time and because it depends where you are geographically located as to which companies meet WSAVA guidelines. ETA - the specific formula that's best for any individual animal is going to vary based on age, lifestyle, medical history, body condition score and so on. If you let me know which country you live in, I might know which companies meet WSAVA guidelines there, but I can't make any more specific of a recommendation than that due to the above considerations. If you watched this video, then you know that home cooking is not appropriate/recommended for the vast majority of patients. The video clearly explains why that is. Welcome to VMC!
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@@VetMedCorner, I checked the WSAVA website looking for their guidelines but there are no informations about them or how they were established. I email them over a week ago, and I still haven't had any answer. Would you have a link where I can find those guidelines? Thanks
87% of people who seek advice frome a board certified vet; after one year are not feeding their pet what was prescribed? Do these people have children? I dont understand why fresh home cooked food (when done right) is not healthier than highly processed kiblle. My pooch is on Royal Canin at the mo whilst I research but surely a minimally processed, freshly prepared, balanced, nutritious home cooked meal has to be healthier, IF done with the same care that you'd take over your own childrens food? The learning curve is steep and fraught with anxiety at not having the right info and it is easier just to give comercial but if fresh is healthier for us I cant see why its not for our dogs. I'm not a fan of celebrity youtube nutritionists that sell a certain ideology and fear mung to sell their products but I feel that vets do exactly the same thing when seeking advice, to sell their products. Thanks for the info Doc🤟
No, the things you presume aren't in any way true. Home preparation is not best practice for long term feeding because it has *zero* testing done for bioavailability of micronutrients which will change every time there's a new shipment/batch of any of the ingredients that are being used among the other issues raised in the video. I feed my own dog Royal Canin, it's truly excellent, and I know that it's far far far superior than anything I could do in my kitchen. I get zero money from any pet food companies and (obviously) get zero money from you for going to a pet store and buying RC. I have absolutely nothing to sell here, either. ETA you may find the video linked in the description that covers who pet nutrition experts are and what the WSAVA guidelines are helpful to get some more information. Remember that pets don't need ingredients, they require micronutrients and knowing how bioavailable those are is indescribably crucial.
@@VetMedCorner The assumption is a logical one based on the little I know about human nutrition and health. ( im not saying human nutrition is the same as canine) But I can't imagine going to my Doctor and her saying 'you know, just to make sure that you're getting the nutrition that you require, eat this highly processed delishes product designed over 10 years because you just cant be sure that you're getting all the nutients you need with fresh, 'real' food. Where as in reality (for us at least) eat more fruit and veg is often cited as health promoting by our Doctors. Variety and eating a wide variety of plants (for us) is key in not only gaining health but staying healthy both physically and mentally. They're finding out through gut biome research that highly processed foods, and certain additives, emulsifiers and sweetners diminish health promoting bacteria in the gut and increase some disease promoting bacteria. The research based on the human gut biome, that a life where the majority of our food is highly processed can increase our risk of developing or worsening, mental health issues, heart disease, diabetes and even some cancers etc, then it stands to reason (imo) that a dogs gut bacteria may have the same influence over its well being and health. Obv Also, there is a huge difference in saying that the testing for bioavailabilty of micronutrients in home cooked fresh food hasnt been done and home cooked NOT being healthier than highly processed. Again, that seems like fear mongering and a cynical marketing tactic to promote their product and psychologically nudge people into buying. Its all too complicated and risky so just trust us, weve already done the hard work, so buy our product etc. I cant see a corporation (MARS) worth 5 billion in the business of making profit doing such research on real food. At the end of the day, theyre selling a product and any research they do is gonna be used to promote that product. The 'pets dont need ingredients' quote from one of their promotional vids is another eg Please dont take this as a personal attack as it not intended as such. The conflict of interest isnt around the fact that you personally may or may not receive money from a corporation for selling its product. The conflict of interest is the fact that they sponsor the WSAVA and ECVIM-CA here in Europe. Similar conflicts of interests occur in the human food industry. The beef industry lobbying and influencing the government for eg
Unfortunately, your assumptions are incorrect. People make assumptions that are wrong so often that there's even a common saying about how assumptions make an a** out of you and me... ETA - as you've noted you are not an expert. I'm telling you what veterinary nutritionists (who are experts) recommend. If you choose to ignore research based expertise based on literally nothing, that's your call. I will now be moving on to other comments. All the best!
I know there are quite a few raw diets that I see quite often. Are there any studies on the raw food diets or companies that sell complete raw food? Been curious about that.
There are decades of research on raw - I have a video summarizing it, let me grab that for you! ruclips.net/video/o_m8PrwQjnw/видео.htmlsi=4cXkMLFElpvqN3Sz Thank you for the question!
Thank you so much for your comment! They were definitely mentioned in the nutritionally related heart disease video (the part before this) but I am sorry if I've forgotten to repeat them here! Currently, the WSAVA compliant formulas are: Hills, Science Diet, Purina Pro Plan, Purina Veterinary Diets, Royal Canin, and in some parts of the world Iams and Eukanuba.
Apologies for missing your question! It's correct that they are not the same thing. Purina Pro Plan is Purina's 'top shelf' over the counter formula where all the research they do gets implemented first. Over time it does often trickle down into their other formulas, but the PPP will be their most specialized, current offering. That said, for some people, PPP is not in the budget... And for some people their pet does well on another formula... and I would absolutely feed *any* Purina line over a formula from a company that doesn't meet WSAVA guidelines. I hope that clarifies things for you!
Hi! I have a question, my dog ate purina for years and randomly stopped one day so I started giving her the wet food and she eats that but barely. I’ve taken her to the vet and they’ve done blood tests and everything and say she’s fine. But I don’t know what else to do. Thank you!
A blood work panel and physical exam is nowhere near a complete medical work up. If your GP veterinarian has done what they are able to, then you need to see an internal medicine specialist for next steps (like an abdominal ultrasound etc).
This makes me feel so much better about choosing to feed a kibble diet to my dogs. I hate seeing all these ads that try to get us to stop feeding kibble. After seeing so many of those ads, I do find myself wondering if I'm doing the right thing. I knew that most homemade meals were not appropriate, but the numbers were shocking. Other than a few meals of a bland diet (white rice, boiled chicken breast, and no salt chicken broth) that was recommended by my vet for upset stomach, I believe the only time I would give a home-cooked meal, will be at end of life. Thank you for all the information you provide.
The amount of fear mongering advertising is incredible, and it frustrates me. Feeding a WSAVA compliant kibble is an excellent choice - I am so glad that seeing this information was reassuring to you! Thank you so much for your comment, I appreciate it!
Very good info. My vet actually recommended a home cooked diet for one of my dogs. But it was a prescription diet from BalanceIt. I know balanceit has their regular diets but they also have prescription ones that require a Dr authorization. You are not kidding though about the cost/difficulty/time requirements that go into it. Not to mention even with the meal plans on balanceit you still have to add a supplement and it’s not very tasty to the dogs 😂 I would not undertake that again unless I needed to for health reasons (my dog had bloody stool for literal years that no matter what diet changes, tests, etc we ran we couldn’t resolve, so this was our vet’s like Hail Mary trying to help him and it actually worked.) I don’t have a clue why it worked. But I’m glad it did. The rest of our dogs get Purina Pro Plan.
Thank you so much for sharing your experience 😊 It's so incredibly difficult to properly do home cooking for our pets! I'm constantly so grateful for research based, excellent diets that meet WSAVA guidelines (like the PPP you use!), those formulas are wonderful!
Thanks for this video! There’s a couple popular “nutritionists” who continually give out information that contradicts what board certified veterinary nutritionists tell us and it drives me up the wall. Hopefully after watching this video more people will understand where to go for better sources of information.
I hope so! Seeing all the wrong/dangerous 'advice' out there is incredibly frustrating. Especially since I know that people are trying to do what's best for their pet, and they are being taken advantage of. Thank you for commenting, I appreciate it!
We don’t know what the bio availability of commercial foods are either. The standard holds true for them too. From season to season from from supplier to supplier. They’re getting the exact same types of foods that we can get. If the bio availability depends on my personal pet. It doesn’t matter what food I feed my dog what matters is whether they can digest it or not and how can I find that out?? Can my vet draw blood to tell me what the bio availability of my dogs digestive tract can sustain?? So whether I make the food or I buy the food it’s still up to my dogs body whether they can assimilate the food. I’m still very confused. I look forward to seeing future videos that clarify this information
What you claim is not accurate because the companies that meet WSAVA guidelines test for this with every batch of the formulas they make to account for the changes over time/in suppliers/etc That's why feeding a diet that is research based, formulated by experts, and that meets WSAVA guidelines is the current standard of care.
How come you don’t tell what the top four recipes were? I’ve watched several of your videos today, and I have seen a lot of great information but unfortunately, it’s mostly pessimistic. You’re not telling me what I can do that is proactive other than to not do these other things that you mention in your videos.I want to make my pets food and I am turning to you to find out how I can do that.
Yes, as I cover in the first part of this series, the AAFCO standards are not near enough. That's why simply meeting AAFCO standards is not enough to result in veterinarians recommending a particular company...
I'm frying my brains re: NO cat canned wet cat food avail. at store. I have 5 indoor cats appx 2 yrs old. No health issues. I'm a senior on a very tight fixed income. I've been watching videos on homemade cat food and using supplements with tureen (sp?) but leery. Read DRY food is not good for cats. And does not last long should I stock up on Purina dry food. I add Friskies cat wet food to my 5 cats diet each day. THERE HAS TO BE A RECIPE OUT THERE to cook chicken, and add in what I can buy to add in. one that meets the standards. I'm going thru hoops. Chicken prices are going up by the minute at the store, as is everything else. And meantime I am trying to prep stocking up for our family at the stores now. I guess I call the local vet. Do I have confidence in local vets..hmmmmmmm who answer phones too busy ,,,and understandable.
Home made cat food will be more expensive than a WSAVA compliant kibble/canned. Since budget is a concern for you, you should not be trying to make home made cat food. What you are currently making is not balanced or appropriate. Have you watched my video on WSAVA standards? It explains why this is the best recommendation, and it's what I feed my cat. ruclips.net/video/eXiqSKUWp0c/видео.html Let me know if you want a list of WSAVA compliant formulas. I will be making a video about canned vs kibble for cats in the future, but you should know there's nothing inherently bad about feeding kibble to cats.
What I want to hear from you is how to make pet food at home that is balanced nutrition. Including adding supplements. I watched one of your videos, and it tells me not to trust the dog food packages. In that video, I thought you were going to tell me which companies were best but instead you gave me a lot of information that was useless to me because I am a late person and I don’t know how to check up on these companies. Now I’m clicking on this video in hopes that you’re going to help me understand how to make my dog a balanced nutritious meal. If I can cook a balanced nutritious meal for myself and my family, then I should be able to cook one for my dog. Can you please help with that in a future? if you could get together with all of your animal nutritionists and come up with a meal plan, that would be amazing!
The info I gave you about who actual pet nutrition experts are and what the WSAVA guidelines are is the information that you need to know in order to understand *why* so many companies are not recommended.
I didn't include specific companies because they will change over time and because it depends where you are geographically located as to which companies meet WSAVA guidelines.
ETA - the specific formula that's best for any individual animal is going to vary based on age, lifestyle, medical history, body condition score and so on.
If you let me know which country you live in, I might know which companies meet WSAVA guidelines there, but I can't make any more specific of a recommendation than that due to the above considerations.
If you watched this video, then you know that home cooking is not appropriate/recommended for the vast majority of patients. The video clearly explains why that is.
Welcome to VMC!
@@VetMedCorner, I checked the WSAVA website looking for their guidelines but there are no informations about them or how they were established. I email them over a week ago, and I still haven't had any answer. Would you have a link where I can find those guidelines? Thanks
87% of people who seek advice frome a board certified vet; after one year are not feeding their pet what was prescribed? Do these people have children? I dont understand why fresh home cooked food (when done right) is not healthier than highly processed kiblle. My pooch is on Royal Canin at the mo whilst I research but surely a minimally processed, freshly prepared, balanced, nutritious home cooked meal has to be healthier, IF done with the same care that you'd take over your own childrens food? The learning curve is steep and fraught with anxiety at not having the right info and it is easier just to give comercial but if fresh is healthier for us I cant see why its not for our dogs. I'm not a fan of celebrity youtube nutritionists that sell a certain ideology and fear mung to sell their products but I feel that vets do exactly the same thing when seeking advice, to sell their products. Thanks for the info Doc🤟
No, the things you presume aren't in any way true. Home preparation is not best practice for long term feeding because it has *zero* testing done for bioavailability of micronutrients which will change every time there's a new shipment/batch of any of the ingredients that are being used among the other issues raised in the video.
I feed my own dog Royal Canin, it's truly excellent, and I know that it's far far far superior than anything I could do in my kitchen.
I get zero money from any pet food companies and (obviously) get zero money from you for going to a pet store and buying RC. I have absolutely nothing to sell here, either.
ETA you may find the video linked in the description that covers who pet nutrition experts are and what the WSAVA guidelines are helpful to get some more information. Remember that pets don't need ingredients, they require micronutrients and knowing how bioavailable those are is indescribably crucial.
@@VetMedCorner The assumption is a logical one based on the little I know about human nutrition and health. ( im not saying human nutrition is the same as canine) But I can't imagine going to my Doctor and her saying 'you know, just to make sure that you're getting the nutrition that you require, eat this highly processed delishes product designed over 10 years because you just cant be sure that you're getting all the nutients you need with fresh, 'real' food. Where as in reality (for us at least) eat more fruit and veg is often cited as health promoting by our Doctors. Variety and eating a wide variety of plants (for us) is key in not only gaining health but staying healthy both physically and mentally.
They're finding out through gut biome research that highly processed foods, and certain additives, emulsifiers and sweetners diminish health promoting bacteria in the gut and increase some disease promoting bacteria. The research based on the human gut biome, that a life where the majority of our food is highly processed can increase our risk of developing or worsening, mental health issues, heart disease, diabetes and even some cancers etc, then it stands to reason (imo) that a dogs gut bacteria may have the same influence over its well being and health. Obv
Also, there is a huge difference in saying that the testing for bioavailabilty of micronutrients in home cooked fresh food hasnt been done and home cooked NOT being healthier than highly processed. Again, that seems like fear mongering and a cynical marketing tactic to promote their product and psychologically nudge people into buying. Its all too complicated and risky so just trust us, weve already done the hard work, so buy our product etc. I cant see a corporation (MARS) worth 5 billion in the business of making profit doing such research on real food. At the end of the day, theyre selling a product and any research they do is gonna be used to promote that product. The 'pets dont need ingredients' quote from one of their promotional vids is another eg
Please dont take this as a personal attack as it not intended as such. The conflict of interest isnt around the fact that
you personally may or may not receive money from a corporation for selling its product. The conflict of interest is the fact that they sponsor the WSAVA and ECVIM-CA here in Europe.
Similar conflicts of interests occur in the human food industry. The beef industry lobbying and influencing the government for eg
Unfortunately, your assumptions are incorrect. People make assumptions that are wrong so often that there's even a common saying about how assumptions make an a** out of you and me...
ETA - as you've noted you are not an expert. I'm telling you what veterinary nutritionists (who are experts) recommend. If you choose to ignore research based expertise based on literally nothing, that's your call. I will now be moving on to other comments. All the best!
I know there are quite a few raw diets that I see quite often. Are there any studies on the raw food diets or companies that sell complete raw food? Been curious about that.
There are decades of research on raw - I have a video summarizing it, let me grab that for you!
ruclips.net/video/o_m8PrwQjnw/видео.htmlsi=4cXkMLFElpvqN3Sz
Thank you for the question!
What were the 4 WSAVA compliant brands? You never mentioned them?
Thank you so much for your comment! They were definitely mentioned in the nutritionally related heart disease video (the part before this) but I am sorry if I've forgotten to repeat them here!
Currently, the WSAVA compliant formulas are: Hills, Science Diet, Purina Pro Plan, Purina Veterinary Diets, Royal Canin, and in some parts of the world Iams and Eukanuba.
@@VetMedCorner thank you! I feel better since my dog eats Purina Pro Plan!
Purina Pro Plan is excellent. 👌
I'm so glad you asked, and I look forward to future comments from you!
@@VetMedCorner i feed Purina Beyond. Is that the same as Purina Pro Plan?
Apologies for missing your question! It's correct that they are not the same thing.
Purina Pro Plan is Purina's 'top shelf' over the counter formula where all the research they do gets implemented first. Over time it does often trickle down into their other formulas, but the PPP will be their most specialized, current offering.
That said, for some people, PPP is not in the budget... And for some people their pet does well on another formula... and I would absolutely feed *any* Purina line over a formula from a company that doesn't meet WSAVA guidelines. I hope that clarifies things for you!
Hi! I have a question, my dog ate purina for years and randomly stopped one day so I started giving her the wet food and she eats that but barely. I’ve taken her to the vet and they’ve done blood tests and everything and say she’s fine. But I don’t know what else to do. Thank you!
A blood work panel and physical exam is nowhere near a complete medical work up. If your GP veterinarian has done what they are able to, then you need to see an internal medicine specialist for next steps (like an abdominal ultrasound etc).
Thank you!
Is the purina one wet food also certified?
This makes me feel so much better about choosing to feed a kibble diet to my dogs. I hate seeing all these ads that try to get us to stop feeding kibble. After seeing so many of those ads, I do find myself wondering if I'm doing the right thing. I knew that most homemade meals were not appropriate, but the numbers were shocking. Other than a few meals of a bland diet (white rice, boiled chicken breast, and no salt chicken broth) that was recommended by my vet for upset stomach, I believe the only time I would give a home-cooked meal, will be at end of life. Thank you for all the information you provide.
The amount of fear mongering advertising is incredible, and it frustrates me. Feeding a WSAVA compliant kibble is an excellent choice - I am so glad that seeing this information was reassuring to you! Thank you so much for your comment, I appreciate it!
Very good info. My vet actually recommended a home cooked diet for one of my dogs. But it was a prescription diet from BalanceIt. I know balanceit has their regular diets but they also have prescription ones that require a Dr authorization.
You are not kidding though about the cost/difficulty/time requirements that go into it. Not to mention even with the meal plans on balanceit you still have to add a supplement and it’s not very tasty to the dogs 😂
I would not undertake that again unless I needed to for health reasons (my dog had bloody stool for literal years that no matter what diet changes, tests, etc we ran we couldn’t resolve, so this was our vet’s like Hail Mary trying to help him and it actually worked.) I don’t have a clue why it worked. But I’m glad it did.
The rest of our dogs get Purina Pro Plan.
Thank you so much for sharing your experience 😊
It's so incredibly difficult to properly do home cooking for our pets! I'm constantly so grateful for research based, excellent diets that meet WSAVA guidelines (like the PPP you use!), those formulas are wonderful!
Sam story for our dog, Stella. Night and day difference and over all quality of her life is 10,000% better. Never going back
Thanks for this video! There’s a couple popular “nutritionists” who continually give out information that contradicts what board certified veterinary nutritionists tell us and it drives me up the wall. Hopefully after watching this video more people will understand where to go for better sources of information.
I hope so! Seeing all the wrong/dangerous 'advice' out there is incredibly frustrating. Especially since I know that people are trying to do what's best for their pet, and they are being taken advantage of.
Thank you for commenting, I appreciate it!
We don’t know what the bio availability of commercial foods are either. The standard holds true for them too. From season to season from from supplier to supplier. They’re getting the exact same types of foods that we can get. If the bio availability depends on my personal pet. It doesn’t matter what food I feed my dog what matters is whether they can digest it or not and how can I find that out?? Can my vet draw blood to tell me what the bio availability of my dogs digestive tract can sustain?? So whether I make the food or I buy the food it’s still up to my dogs body whether they can assimilate the food. I’m still very confused. I look forward to seeing future videos that clarify this information
What you claim is not accurate because the companies that meet WSAVA guidelines test for this with every batch of the formulas they make to account for the changes over time/in suppliers/etc
That's why feeding a diet that is research based, formulated by experts, and that meets WSAVA guidelines is the current standard of care.
How come you don’t tell what the top four recipes were? I’ve watched several of your videos today, and I have seen a lot of great information but unfortunately, it’s mostly pessimistic. You’re not telling me what I can do that is proactive other than to not do these other things that you mention in your videos.I want to make my pets food and I am turning to you to find out how I can do that.
If you watched the video then you know the 'top four recipes' don't exist. That's why they aren't in the video.
AAFCO is good for nothing.... sorry, but I do not respect the org.
Yes, as I cover in the first part of this series, the AAFCO standards are not near enough. That's why simply meeting AAFCO standards is not enough to result in veterinarians recommending a particular company...
I'm frying my brains re: NO cat canned wet cat food avail. at store. I have 5 indoor cats appx 2 yrs old. No health issues. I'm a senior on a very tight fixed income. I've been watching videos on homemade cat food and using supplements with tureen (sp?) but leery.
Read DRY food is not good for cats. And does not last long should I stock up on Purina dry food. I add Friskies cat wet food to my 5 cats diet each day. THERE HAS TO BE A RECIPE OUT THERE to cook chicken, and add in what I can buy to add in. one that meets the standards. I'm going thru hoops. Chicken prices are going up by the minute at the store, as is everything else. And meantime I am trying to prep stocking up for our family at the stores now. I guess I call the local vet. Do I have confidence in local vets..hmmmmmmm who answer phones too busy ,,,and understandable.
Home made cat food will be more expensive than a WSAVA compliant kibble/canned. Since budget is a concern for you, you should not be trying to make home made cat food. What you are currently making is not balanced or appropriate.
Have you watched my video on WSAVA standards? It explains why this is the best recommendation, and it's what I feed my cat.
ruclips.net/video/eXiqSKUWp0c/видео.html
Let me know if you want a list of WSAVA compliant formulas. I will be making a video about canned vs kibble for cats in the future, but you should know there's nothing inherently bad about feeding kibble to cats.