Tip from an long time certified solderer - always run the iron across a wet sponge to remove excess (it has lost its flux and is now more of a drossy burden when using with flux cored solder), next _always_ heat the work first, before touching the solder to it or you burn the flux up too fast and it can lead to connection stability problems. Then introduce solder to the work, not the iron - it should flow freely like a tight skin hugging the metal (the sign of a good melt) and cool shiny (which is a good join, as opposed to dull which is a cold solder joint). This should all happen quickly so as not to overheat the work and once the solder sticks don't linger with their on or you lose the antioxidizing effects of the flux. If you get a situation where the solder is heading but not sticking either apply flux paste sparingly or flood the area with solder to coax new flux on to it then tap the area quickly to remove excess (if it didn't drop off on its own) or sponge it off immediately after removing the iron (you just want to get rid of the excess solder without lingering. Lingering oxidizes the underlying metal and solder starts to flip as it contains dross now and nothing wants to stick. I've personally taken to just sticking a q-tip in paste flux (I prefer rosin as it is only acidic when hot and won't degrade wire when below soldering temps) and dab everything for jobs this size and larger (size as in wire that's this heavy). Anyway, nice job - I know nothing about these alternators and am trying to learn. This was very helpful, thanks!d
yeah I liked his video myself, but the soldering needed some work...My brother is a great solderer and was amazed when he saw me solder...its because i am a welder mig,tig,stick, brazing fusing metal is my job lol I once soldered a tank back on a radiator and it looked like it was formed and not soldered
"Then introduce solder to the work, not the iron" yes, but. This is also the right moment to put a little(!) bit of solder to the iron so it will make a solid thermal connection to the work. Just lightly touching the iron's tip while moving the solder to the work works fine. Another thing to watch is that you want the work to wick up the solder, not press a blob of solder onto it. When working on clean electronics with a low thermal mass and a good iron, one can do this directly from the tip, but one needs to keep in mind that this is a special case, not the norm.
One of the best demonstration videos I've ever seen. So clear, absolutely thorough, covering all the necessary points, yet no waffle at all. Excellent. Thanks you.
Buddhanz1 I agree prolly took bit more time to video but Was very clear beginning to end .Do you suppose you could put multiple sets of those onto a rotor section without dragging it to much
Thanks for sharing your knowledge. I don't know much about electricity but after watching this 3 times and reading some of the comments I am considering having a go - but using wind to turn the stater. I followed up and watched the other video regarding the water wheel and inverter and such. Wish I could get my hands on all the other stuff for free so I could go ahead with the build. Cheers.
Excellent use of an old washer, bravo man! Like Frank Resists says about soldering. Heat the wires then put the solder to it, gives you a superior connection that won't fail and looks terrific, it'll make your connections look totally pro.
hi ! Love the concept and everything. If you want your tin to stick to the copper. You have to clean it up with a chemical product (plumber product) 1 apply product on the area. 2 Heat it up 3 remove heat source 4 apply tin. That's how a plumber do, by the book. About that there is 2 types (or more) tin. take the one without lead. That's the one allowed in drinkable water. You might end up in trouble if you don't. lead path : tin => water => fish => humans => hospital Just thinking to this. An old plumber I had as a teacher told me that water looses speed when it turns. Even into a pipe. Therefore you might have a better output because you have two 90° angles. (if I remember correctly) Once again I'm just triing to help.
Best soldering iron/gun I ever owned... Was an adjustable/variable pencil purchased from MCM Electronics back in the 90's. I paid 13 dollars for the thing and it lasted me until 2015! it still works, but the entire point is ate up... Not sure if I can find replacements. It was brown with a little white dial that you used your finger nail to adjust temp. A 1000% times better than any soldering gun or pencil I have ever owned.
I actually found that MCM still sells the thing!!! In 1992 or so I paid 13 bucks for it... Now it's only 17 or 18. Best inflation rate I have seen to date! :) Now if silver solder will come back down to a reasonable price... Vtwin will be a happy man. :)
thank you so much for these videos and for leaving them up so long. I have been waiting for many years to be in the position to use this method, now I have the space and need and will put your knowledge to good use. Cheers
Beautiful build my man . Ive seen generators made from modified F&P washing machine motors . For off-grid hydro and wind power that last for many years . Btw , test and harvest those hover board batteries . Charge your own DIY power wall .
Mate, I have copied down all your instructions and drawn pictures to the best of my ability. I would like to try this here in Canada (Alberta Rocky Mountains). My father was like you always thinking and tinkering. He would have been so proud to call you son, instead he got a girl terrified of electricity. Thanks!!!!!
@@andrewhigdon8346 Yes it is!!! Abraham Lake a reservoir lake west of Nordegg has been cited as one of the best places to see Bigfoot. Neither I nor any of my friends have seen it though. If you go to google maps you can get a great satellite photo of the area. Beautiful!! and very remote!
Buddhanz I'm going to make a few stators and see where they lead. First one will be hooked up to an excercise bike and whatever my friend who is keen to engineer can engineer. A rotary tool makes it easy to strip the wires, as I learned after trying to manually join the each series of coils by sanding them manually with sand paper. I joined the 3 phases to every 6th coil like a dream with the rotary tool to remove the enamel off the wires. At the moment I have plans on a power supply for an advertisement billboard trailer for a fellow activist friend that is currently in the make. At the end of the day we are looking at building many modifications such as hydro electric to keep a self sustaining aquaponic setup and more. Looking at building affordable setups to help the everyday man and woman break free from the slavery system ;)
CapnSchep I get 30 amps @ 24v without any overheating issues, I scratch groves in the rotor to increase air flow around the stator, it never gets much higher than 40 c. The spinning rotor adds a cooling effect. 1000 rpm
I spent best part of today doing this with the aid of your video..Now for the rectifier and voltage reducer..Thanks..BTW..i found that scratching the snipped wires with a craft knife made soldering easy..
If your soldering with a tip with enough thermal mass and the soldering iron is over 30W, it should burn right through the enamel. I solder magnet wire all the time without removing the enamel first. The issues he's running into in the video is his tip has practically no thermal mass; his solder seems to have too low of a flux ratio; and he is feeding the solder onto the iron, not the wires, which is burning off most of what little flux there is before it can help mate the solder to the copper.
excellent use of hot glue! it works well for insulating and if you don't have a gun a Bic lighter works fine. it's just a little messier! great videos, thank you
Well done, Sir. The hot glue stuff is an excellent idea, I am looking forward to use it in the future. I wish I had as much space - including my own small river - and tools as you.
Instead of rewiring. Can the dc current be sent to a solar mppt charge controller to regulate the voltage and charge a 48v battery instead or one of the new portable solar generators in the market?
Great video very detailed good job. Don't let the creeps get to you. I'm working on a water wheel for my creek running through my backyard so I'll be looking for one of these motors also.
Not creeps, just educated. No such thing as free energy yet they insist on posting titles like this. I use a hydroelctrostatic generator as well, but the potential and mechanical advantages come from the water..NOT free out of thin air, and NO it's not perpetual. Just be articulate and concise where its needed, that's all us 'creeps' ask
I noticed you didnt tell us to sand enamal from main wire at the breaks in the wire cover. Is it an omission or does stripping it also make ready the wire for solder? Thank you for sharing with us your brilliant mind, and keep showing us how to live woken. Peace, Brother.
How did you manage to have water with so much pressure? Is it just with the river water and its gravity? What is the pipe diameter and total length and what is the difference in level, or an estimate, between the point where the river water is collected and where you have the turbine?
What is the purpose of this type of connection? I'm having problems with a heavy rotation to generate, I use the delta connection. I would be grateful if you could help me.
Wind the rotor out from the stator so there is less magnetic area exposed to the poles, I do this when I'm using a smaller jet but still need high rpms
If you are willing to spend on the extra components a dc/dc converter can be used to charge your battery. Set it up just like any commercial/industrial UPS system your low voltage AC (400v is low voltage) through a rectifier block, DC/DC converter block converts that DC to your charging DC for your battery bank, and out through the inverter block and through a capacitor bank that brings your power factor back closer to 1 and further cleans up your output. RVs already have pretty much all the power conversion components you need. Then you don't need to give up so much of the power this generates and you don't have to spend all that time rewiring it. More than one way to skin a cat, it all depend on you and the cat which one is right for you.
Very interesting thanks for sharing your experience and knowledge with us. I live in the USA not familiar with that particular brand of washing machine are stators like the one in your video in all washers or limited to certain brands and if so would you be familiar with typical brands offered in the states?
I was taught to solder by touching the iron to the wire and getting the wire itself hot enough to melt the solder. By touching the solder to the wire instead of touching the solder to the iron it is drawn onto the wire to get the strongest connection with the least resistance. Your iron doesn't get as messy that either.
+Ralph Hernandez Yeah I usually do that too but if I had used that technique for this job I would have been there all day, the iron was really too small for the job. I A butane torch would have been better. In saying that, I've Never had a failed solder joint so that''s good enough for me.
Can you explain why exactly you had to rewire it and what changed from when you rewired.. also x,y,z. how does that relatet to positive and negative when you try to charge a battery bank.... thanks
The factory wired stator produces 400+ volts with low amps which is dangerous for the amateur to work with and not very useful for charging a battery bank. By re-wiring we reduce the voltage, raise the amps to a level more suitable for charging the battery bank, we then need to rectify the power via the diode bridge from ac to dc (batteries are dc). We need the battery bank to make up the deficit when we use the inverter to run appliances with a higher wattage than the output of the turbine.
So breaking the coils into smaller groups you decrease the voltage because you pull a magnet across less wire? But bulk these together and get same watts, just less voltage and higher amp? So then the diode bridge (full wave rectifyer?) only lets power flow one way, regardless of input direction, so 24 v ac becomes 24v dc? But how does all this work with 3 output leads?
At first I thought this was a video about a perpetual motion machine and I was about to be extremely disappointed with your channel. I'm very glad to have been proven wrong.
Amazing video! However, I am a bit confused about the way you solder the wires. Normally, you should heat up the wire, and melt the solder onto the wire. But in your case, you are melting the solder directly onto the gun?
PowerSports420 Yeah the soldering iron is a little light for the job, I find if I melt the solder on to the gun first, the wire seems to heat up quicker due to more surface area contact
When I was tote to solder in school 30 years ago it was common to heat from the bottom of the wire because heat rises and add the solder to the wire when the wire is hot enough to melt the solder
true if the wire is upright, TBH copper/steel/metals commonly use for electrical conductors conduct heat via conduction so well that convection makes little difference.
High voltage high hertz hard to start turbine with a load applied. See Marty T's latest vids doing this again...with sound. also www.thebackshed.com/Windmill/FPRewire.asp
Interesting Video. May I suggest, however, that you use heatshrink tubing for insulation instead of hot glue? Sure, it's a bit more work to get the soldering joints just right so you can still slide the heatshrink tubing over the joint, but it's just so much better from a safety point of view. Also, there's heatshrink with an integrated layer of hot glue which will even seal the soldering joings airtight - might be a big plus when going for water power.
Only if it has this style of brushless motor.... See Marty T's latest vids doing this again...with sound. also www.thebackshed.com/Windmill/FPRewire.asp
hi there Angry Ram the pelton water wheel you have on the washing machine where did you get that from i have done the same with the washing machine getting about 43volts at about 5-6 amps from a homemade pelton wheel but i think a proper pelton wheel should give me more power from the water
Your performance is beautiful, thanks for the information. I have a question, does it work in a faster way on the motor, and what is the specified speed for rotation or without limits?
Fantastic video, thanks !!! However, any chance of a circuit diagram please, it would be enormously appreciated, by more than just me, I'm sure, cheers.
It is hard to start the turbine with a load applied and the high voltage high hertz is dangerous and doesn't travel well See Marty T's latest vids doing this again...with sound. also www.thebackshed.com/Windmill/FPRewire.asp
You may only see what appears to be 14 magnets, however each one of these has several poles. get a small magnet and run over them and you will see the individual poles per magnet
How I wish I could do what you did. I can only understand simple dc motor. Very informative and helpful. I am itching to disassemble old washing machine but stop short of doing so because I may not be able to finish working on what you did :(
Mc Pedro Jr Thanks man. If you're not confident doing this sort of thing, best leave it till you have more experience. I wouldn't want you getting a zap
This is great could do with some audio though. though i can see what you are doing based on the diagram at the start. When you are actually cutting wires it is hard to see and would benefit for some audio description.
Marty T Using a large soldering iron in his latest vids doing this again...with sound. For a newly built hydro also www.thebackshed.com/Windmill/FPRewire.asp
I’m trying to research this free energy stuff. Don’t know much about motors but why are you having to cut the wires and then join them in a different configuration to that of what was there out of the washing machine?
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lee cyril peter You could do that, but I don't see any benefit. If you need higher rpm you can just wind out the rotor to decrease drag from the magnets
Thanks flow your quick reply. I have taken apart an lg direct drive motor. It has 36 poles but I don't think it makes much difference. But it has aluminium windings very tough to solder. Any tips. Thanks
lee cyril peter I'm not sure if you can solder aluminium, Id rip all the wire off & start again with copper wire, you should only need 20 wraps per pole to match output
That depends how much water you want to use, and at what pressure, and how fast you want to risk spinning the turbine. See Marty T's latest vids doing this again...with sound. also www.thebackshed.com/Windmill/FPRewire.asp
Could have used an up close look and explanation of an individual group of 3 windings because it looks like the wires go every which direction so it would be nice to know what you focus on to cut and why.
dont do this unless you intend to control the water flow valve by the frequency of the output power. the idea of charging a battery and then using an inverter gives regulation of the frequency and the voltage to protect appliances. the only thing you can run off an unregulated supply from a frequency ( generator speed) point of view is an old style incandescent lamp so that's useless. to get 220 v you would alter the rewinding process and split it into just two groups of 7 in series/parallel i suspect
I have a Samsung direct drive DC motor like this that i want to rewire. My motor says 310v DC and I have found the common diagrams showing how to rewire the motor in different ways but I am a bit confused. Every video I have found shows motors that look just slightly different than mine. I have 36 poles and all but my terminals are on the opposite side of the bridge where all the wires are connected. When looking at the stator from the top all of these motors seem to have the terminals on the right side of the bridge therefore putting the bridge at the end of the coil if you went around it counter clockwise. My motor has the terminals to the left of the bridge so would I do the same thing but in reverse to wire it following it around clockwise? Thanks and great work!
Not direct ac with this config, but they make good battery chargers when coupled to a gas motor. This one would put out 30+ amps @ 24v or 60 amps at 12v
Salve, sto lavorando al suo stesso progetto, non sono molto addentrato in questo campo, le volevo chiedere : devo usare un raddrizzatore? e che tipo di regolatore di carica usare per controllare la carica delle batterie senza avere sopraccarico di tensione? Grazie.
It maybe a stupid question, but do you have to re-wire it and furthermore are you able to have the magnets rotating over the coils instead of inside the stator? Thanks.
Woudn't be better to do phase 1 then 3 and then 2? So the 1 and 3 would be better separated and then last 2 would be easy to isolate from the 3 because it's on the top?
stupid question and i should seek my own answer, but how did you get to the design rewire of the poles to know it would produce 24 volts? are each set of poles 24 volts and all groups are utilized together by putting the 7 of them in parallel ? each coil must produce 4 volts? 6 poles in a group together is 24? and 7 groups in parallel?
I intend to connect it to a Bedini Wheel that I build with a 1 Meter Dia Wheel and 16 Neidium Magnets 165 Lb Pull each ,the wheel spin 200RPM using 40Vand 8 Amps what do you think,I believe it will end up charging its own Batteryas well as charging my battery bank. Paul
hi i have watched and now made a power machine exactly as you have shown on this video and im proud of the result so thanks the only problem i have is that my power source is a poor excuse for a stream and i wonder if you have another way of boosting the power source maybe a pump of some kind i eagerly await your answer thanking you abie
I have an identical stator except it has 36 poles instead of 42. If i follow the diagram correctly mine appears to be Factory wired at 36 pole 1x12c. My question is; If I rewire mine to 36 pole 6x2c, At the same RPMs would I get less Volts or less Amps than yours (42 Pole 7x2c)?
Wouldn't this be more efficient to run at a higher voltage until you get to your battery and then have a transformer stepping it down to a voltage regulator for your set of batteries?
Yes but it will put out over 400v and high hz, not useful for charging a battery bank and dangerous for the novice to work with. I would not recommend it
Around 60v open circuit, but it shouldn't ever be open circuit. It will always be connected to a battery bank, The battery bank dictates the output voltage so voltage ranges from around 23.5 - 29 depending on state of charge, amps peak at around 30. Of course this is site dependent, a site with more water flow / head, output will peak at around 1kw
So You rewired the motor to make lower voltage AC with higher amps, and then "rectified it" to produce DC volts? Then the results showed that out of the rectifiers you were getting an average of about 26 volts DC with a max of 30 amps. that is awesome! okay so i am currently building a generator myself but in a whole diferent way and i am stuck on which direction i should go when it comes to the electrical portion to it.. could you help me out and shoot me an email? please and thank you Chris Keller christipher1997@yahoo.com
+Angry Ram I'm sorry, but no. Though that is probably a good start, it's not the only route. However, for this example, the smartdrive is probably your best choice. If you want to go further, I suggest learning generators/alternators, I'm into it now. I do like your wiring scheme. A Ram, have you looked into electromagnets for your magnet power? They make Neodymium look like a joke.
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Hi Really like your project. Do you know if you can convert the smart drive washing machine to run on DC. I want to go off grid without an inverter and am looking for ways to have all DC appliances. Cheers
Paul Waddell I think it would be more trouble than its worth. Looks like someone has posted the question here - forum.allaboutcircuits.com/threads/12v-24v-to-a-3-phase-smartdrive-motor.42225/
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Tip from an long time certified solderer - always run the iron across a wet sponge to remove excess (it has lost its flux and is now more of a drossy burden when using with flux cored solder), next _always_ heat the work first, before touching the solder to it or you burn the flux up too fast and it can lead to connection stability problems. Then introduce solder to the work, not the iron - it should flow freely like a tight skin hugging the metal (the sign of a good melt) and cool shiny (which is a good join, as opposed to dull which is a cold solder joint). This should all happen quickly so as not to overheat the work and once the solder sticks don't linger with their on or you lose the antioxidizing effects of the flux. If you get a situation where the solder is heading but not sticking either apply flux paste sparingly or flood the area with solder to coax new flux on to it then tap the area quickly to remove excess (if it didn't drop off on its own) or sponge it off immediately after removing the iron (you just want to get rid of the excess solder without lingering. Lingering oxidizes the underlying metal and solder starts to flip as it contains dross now and nothing wants to stick.
I've personally taken to just sticking a q-tip in paste flux (I prefer rosin as it is only acidic when hot and won't degrade wire when below soldering temps) and dab everything for jobs this size and larger (size as in wire that's this heavy).
Anyway, nice job - I know nothing about these alternators and am trying to learn. This was very helpful, thanks!d
yeah I liked his video myself, but the soldering needed some work...My brother is a great solderer and was amazed when he saw me solder...its because i am a welder mig,tig,stick, brazing fusing metal is my job lol I once soldered a tank back on a radiator and it looked like it was formed and not soldered
I guess soldering since age 9 made me assume this was common knowledge!
"Then introduce solder to the work, not the iron" yes, but. This is also the right moment to put a little(!) bit of solder to the iron so it will make a solid thermal connection to the work. Just lightly touching the iron's tip while moving the solder to the work works fine.
Another thing to watch is that you want the work to wick up the solder, not press a blob of solder onto it. When working on clean electronics with a low thermal mass and a good iron, one can do this directly from the tip, but one needs to keep in mind that this is a special case, not the norm.
How many watts do you think are lost through the way he did it? 0?
I always used a damp paper towel.
One of the best demonstration videos I've ever seen.
So clear, absolutely thorough, covering all the necessary points, yet no waffle at all.
Excellent. Thanks you.
Thanks, glad you liked it
Buddhanz1 I agree prolly took bit more time to video but Was very clear beginning to end .Do you suppose you could put multiple sets of those onto a rotor section without dragging it to much
Thank you for the video: Speaking the instructions/how to process loud and clearly to assist those of us who need to hear would be very helpful.
See Marty T's latest vids doing this again...with sound.
also www.thebackshed.com/Windmill/FPRewire.asp
Thanks for sharing your knowledge. I don't know much about electricity but after watching this 3 times and reading some of the comments I am considering having a go - but using wind to turn the stater. I followed up and watched the other video regarding the water wheel and inverter and such. Wish I could get my hands on all the other stuff for free so I could go ahead with the build. Cheers.
Thank you for not adding music,
I can listen myself thinking :)
Excellent use of an old washer, bravo man! Like Frank Resists
says about soldering. Heat the wires then put the solder to it, gives you a superior connection that won't fail and looks terrific, it'll make your connections look totally pro.
See Marty T's large soldering iron used in his latest vids doing this again...with sound.
also www.thebackshed.com/Windmill/FPRewire.asp
Very helpful of you to show how to rewire. Thanks very much for your effort. I am sure others feel the same way.
Using a large soldering iron in his latest vids doing this again...with sound.
For a newly built hydro
also www.thebackshed.com/Windmill/FPRewire.asp
Thankyou for your time to make thit video.
I am a visual with a electricity background.
Priceless...
hi ! Love the concept and everything.
If you want your tin to stick to the copper. You have to clean it up with a chemical product (plumber product)
1 apply product on the area.
2 Heat it up
3 remove heat source
4 apply tin.
That's how a plumber do, by the book.
About that there is 2 types (or more) tin.
take the one without lead. That's the one allowed in drinkable water.
You might end up in trouble if you don't.
lead path : tin => water => fish => humans => hospital
Just thinking to this.
An old plumber I had as a teacher told me that water looses speed when it turns. Even into a pipe.
Therefore you might have a better output because you have two 90° angles. (if I remember correctly)
Once again I'm just triing to help.
Love it especially the conversion of the stator wiring.
Just need a stream on my property!
does the wind blow on your property? If so you can use this.
Best soldering iron/gun I ever owned... Was an adjustable/variable pencil purchased from MCM Electronics back in the 90's. I paid 13 dollars for the thing and it lasted me until 2015! it still works, but the entire point is ate up... Not sure if I can find replacements. It was brown with a little white dial that you used your finger nail to adjust temp. A 1000% times better than any soldering gun or pencil I have ever owned.
+VTwin4Christ Nice, sounds like a goody
I actually found that MCM still sells the thing!!! In 1992 or so I paid 13 bucks for it... Now it's only 17 or 18. Best inflation rate I have seen to date! :) Now if silver solder will come back down to a reasonable price... Vtwin will be a happy man. :)
now i know how to rewire. good tutorial and explanation. thanks sir
thank you so much for these videos and for leaving them up so long. I have been waiting for many years to be in the position to use this method, now I have the space and need and will put your knowledge to good use. Cheers
No worries Clive, glad you found them useful
See Marty T's large soldering iron used in his latest vids doing this again...with sound.
also www.thebackshed.com/Windmill/FPRewire.asp
Lots of mindless bleating in the comments.
Love your work mate.
I'll be copying this design for my hydro set up shortly.
All the best
Using a large soldering iron in his latest vids doing this again...with sound.
For a newly built hydro
also www.thebackshed.com/Windmill/FPRewire.asp
Beautiful build my man .
Ive seen generators made from modified F&P washing machine motors . For off-grid hydro and wind power that last for many years .
Btw , test and harvest those hover board batteries . Charge your own DIY power wall .
Can these be bought already rewired?
Not that I know of
“Paid work degrades and absorbs the mind.”...Angus Young.
Mate, I have copied down all your instructions and drawn pictures to the best of my ability. I would like to try this here in Canada (Alberta Rocky Mountains). My father was like you always thinking and tinkering. He would have been so proud to call you son, instead he got a girl terrified of electricity. Thanks!!!!!
NordeggSonya did you built one of this? I want to try too
Beautiful little hamlet you are in. Love stopping in. My father worked at the mine in the 50s
NordeggSonya is that the same Nordegg area famous for Bigfoot sightings? Saw it once in Survivorman.
@@andrewhigdon8346 Yes it is!!! Abraham Lake a reservoir lake west of Nordegg has been cited as one of the best places to see Bigfoot. Neither I nor any of my friends have seen it though. If you go to google maps you can get a great satellite photo of the area. Beautiful!! and very remote!
Awesome, I just finished converting a stator! Great tutorial, hardest part is cleaning the enamel coating off the copper wire
BoostinR31 Nice, yeah it's quite hard to get all of it off & if ya leave some on the solder won't stick. Are you making a hydro generator?
Buddhanz
I'm going to make a few stators and see where they lead. First one will be hooked up to an excercise bike and whatever my friend who is keen to engineer can engineer. A rotary tool makes it easy to strip the wires, as I learned after trying to manually join the each series of coils by sanding them manually with sand paper. I joined the 3 phases to every 6th coil like a dream with the rotary tool to remove the enamel off the wires. At the moment I have plans on a power supply for an advertisement billboard trailer for a fellow activist friend that is currently in the make. At the end of the day we are looking at building many modifications such as hydro electric to keep a self sustaining aquaponic setup and more. Looking at building affordable setups to help the everyday man and woman break free from the slavery system ;)
Buddhanz What kind of power...watts....can you safely get from this set up before it starts to over heat...?
and at what rpm roughly...?
CapnSchep I get 30 amps @ 24v without any overheating issues, I scratch groves in the rotor to increase air flow around the stator, it never gets much higher than 40 c. The spinning rotor adds a cooling effect. 1000 rpm
Nice..!
I spent best part of today doing this with the aid of your video..Now for the rectifier and voltage reducer..Thanks..BTW..i found that scratching the snipped wires with a craft knife made soldering easy..
If your soldering with a tip with enough thermal mass and the soldering iron is over 30W, it should burn right through the enamel. I solder magnet wire all the time without removing the enamel first. The issues he's running into in the video is his tip has practically no thermal mass; his solder seems to have too low of a flux ratio; and he is feeding the solder onto the iron, not the wires, which is burning off most of what little flux there is before it can help mate the solder to the copper.
excellent use of hot glue! it works well for insulating and if you don't have a gun a Bic lighter works fine. it's just a little messier! great videos, thank you
Я таким же паяльником паяю уже 43 года. Fantastic!
Just wanted to say thinks! I have hydro power thanks to your helpful videos.
Can you elucidate further, please?
can you do this with any other brands of washing machines
thank you. i've been wondering how this was done and the way you showed it makes sense.
Great video.
Heat shrink tubes on each connection should make it more mechanical stable and protect from shortcuts.
Anders Jackson bom dia vende meu é isaac
Well done, Sir.
The hot glue stuff is an excellent idea, I am looking forward to use it in the future.
I wish I had as much space - including my own small river - and tools as you.
The only problem is if it gets too hot the glue might melt and move.
@@vrtdubber This is a point worth considering when intending to use this method!
Instead of rewiring. Can the dc current be sent to a solar mppt charge controller to regulate the voltage and charge a 48v battery instead or one of the new portable solar generators in the market?
I've never tried that with a factory stator, the only mppts ive used have been 150v max input, the factory stator can produce 400v
Great video very detailed good job. Don't let the creeps get to you. I'm working on a water wheel for my creek running through my backyard so I'll be looking for one of these motors also.
Not creeps, just educated. No such thing as free energy yet they insist on posting titles like this. I use a hydroelctrostatic generator as well, but the potential and mechanical advantages come from the water..NOT free out of thin air, and NO it's not perpetual. Just be articulate and concise where its needed, that's all us 'creeps' ask
I noticed you didnt tell us to sand enamal from main wire at the breaks in the wire cover. Is it an omission or does stripping it also make ready the wire for solder? Thank you for sharing with us your brilliant mind, and keep showing us how to live woken. Peace, Brother.
What kind of washing machines have these motors in them?
Look for ones with a brushless motor in them....
It is already three phase, what is the benefit of rewinding? Is it to increase amps and lower volts
Exactly. Here's the link to the page that explains it- www.thebackshed.com/Windmill/FPRewire.asp
It looks like it’s reducing the amount of electric poles. But they all seem to be wound in the same direction. So I’m not sure what’s happening
Bravo! Typical kiwi ingenuity
How did you manage to have water with so much pressure? Is it just with the river water and its gravity? What is the pipe diameter and total length and what is the difference in level, or an estimate, between the point where the river water is collected and where you have the turbine?
Why you need to rewire or change the connection?what is the difference if you do not rewire?thanks
Voltage is too high in the factory configuration
What is the purpose of this type of connection? I'm having problems with a heavy rotation to generate, I use the delta connection. I would be grateful if you could help me.
Wind the rotor out from the stator so there is less magnetic area exposed to the poles, I do this when I'm using a smaller jet but still need high rpms
very helpful video for a self sufficiency
You just made an obviously complex job seem simple, thanks. Can i get this from any washing machine?
Only those with the brushless motor design as shown...other manufacturers also make these motors...
Hi my motor got 36 pole so it will be 6 groups right? Thank you.
Depends on your speed, load, voltage. this site shows the most common wiring configurations www.thebackshed.com/Windmill/FPRewire.asp
I need run 24 volts system to charge battery thank you.
The website explains alot i got it now thank you.
I'd like to rewire mine for 36 volts. 24 might be fine. For drive motor for bike. Any links or suggestions
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WHY does it have to be rewired? To generate lower voltage or some other reason? Thanks for great videos.
Angry Ram
5 months ago
Voltage is too high in the factory configuration
If you are willing to spend on the extra components a dc/dc converter can be used to charge your battery. Set it up just like any commercial/industrial UPS system your low voltage AC (400v is low voltage) through a rectifier block, DC/DC converter block converts that DC to your charging DC for your battery bank, and out through the inverter block and through a capacitor bank that brings your power factor back closer to 1 and further cleans up your output.
RVs already have pretty much all the power conversion components you need. Then you don't need to give up so much of the power this generates and you don't have to spend all that time rewiring it. More than one way to skin a cat, it all depend on you and the cat which one is right for you.
Very good proposal! Also this way power loss in cables can be minized if batteries are some distance apart from the generator.
@@hartmutberger5611 Exactly. And the RV company did all the work for you already anyway, you just have to get one.
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do you have any suggestions for a type of washing machine we can convert for use here in the states?
Olivia Bishop I have never tried other machines, try a google search - permanent magnet washing machines
Maytag or whirlpool washing machines use F & P smartdrive motors also look at ecoinnovations.co.nz they do a lot of work with these
Whirlpool cabrio
Thanks
Whirlpool or Maytag use the same F & P Smartdrive motor technology in their washing machines I am told
What voltage would it produce if not rewired?
400vac
Very interesting thanks for sharing your experience and knowledge with us. I live in the USA not familiar with that particular brand of washing machine are stators like the one in your video in all washers or limited to certain brands and if so would you be familiar with typical brands offered in the states?
Hi. I am interested in your video. How and where can i buy pelton wheel.
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Pelton wheels off ebay...
I was taught to solder by touching the iron to the wire and getting the wire itself hot enough to melt the solder. By touching the solder to the wire instead of touching the solder to the iron it is drawn onto the wire to get the strongest connection with the least resistance. Your iron doesn't get as messy that either.
+Ralph Hernandez Yeah I usually do that too but if I had used that technique for this job I would have been there all day, the iron was really too small for the job. I A butane torch would have been better. In saying that, I've Never had a failed solder joint so that''s good enough for me.
Can you explain why exactly you had to rewire it and what changed from when you rewired.. also x,y,z. how does that relatet to positive and negative when you try to charge a battery bank.... thanks
The factory wired stator produces 400+ volts with low amps which is dangerous for the amateur to work with and not very useful for charging a battery bank. By re-wiring we reduce the voltage, raise the amps to a level more suitable for charging the battery bank, we then need to rectify the power via the diode bridge from ac to dc (batteries are dc). We need the battery bank to make up the deficit when we use the inverter to run appliances with a higher wattage than the output of the turbine.
So breaking the coils into smaller groups you decrease the voltage because you pull a magnet across less wire? But bulk these together and get same watts, just less voltage and higher amp? So then the diode bridge (full wave rectifyer?) only lets power flow one way, regardless of input direction, so 24 v ac becomes 24v dc? But how does all this work with 3 output leads?
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Will it work on a Samsung with only 18 stator poles?
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That looks fun and easy enough for me to do. I'm totally doin it!
would it make much diffrence if you wired the coil in delta instead off star how you have done it
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At first I thought this was a video about a perpetual motion machine and I was about to be extremely disappointed with your channel. I'm very glad to have been proven wrong.
Is there a separate video to make the Rectifier?
Amazing video!
However, I am a bit confused about the way you solder the wires. Normally, you should heat up the wire, and melt the solder onto the wire. But in your case, you are melting the solder directly onto the gun?
PowerSports420 Yeah the soldering iron is a little light for the job, I find if I melt the solder on to the gun first, the wire seems to heat up quicker due to more surface area contact
Oh ok, that makes sense. I've never had luck with those "quick heat" guns either. I went through two of them, then just went back to a simple iron.
bit of plumbers flux or liquid flux may help with getting the solder to flow.
When I was tote to solder in school 30 years ago it was common to heat from the bottom of the wire because heat rises and add the solder to the wire when the wire is hot enough to melt the solder
true if the wire is upright, TBH copper/steel/metals commonly use for electrical conductors conduct heat via conduction so well that convection makes little difference.
Why was the original wiring changed? Would it have worked this way as well? What are the benefits of the change? Thank you.
High voltage high hertz hard to start turbine with a load applied.
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Interesting Video. May I suggest, however, that you use heatshrink tubing for insulation instead of hot glue?
Sure, it's a bit more work to get the soldering joints just right so you can still slide the heatshrink tubing over the joint, but it's just so much better from a safety point of view. Also, there's heatshrink with an integrated layer of hot glue which will even seal the soldering joings airtight - might be a big plus when going for water power.
You may suggest it but I won't need heatshrink, the turbine has been running 24/7 faultlessly since I built it all those years ago
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Can I use any brand of washer?
Only if it has this style of brushless motor....
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hi there Angry Ram the pelton water wheel you have on the washing machine where did you get that from i have done the same with the washing machine getting about 43volts at about 5-6 amps from a homemade pelton wheel but i think a proper pelton wheel should give me more power from the water
Your performance is beautiful, thanks for the information. I have a question, does it work in a faster way on the motor, and what is the specified speed for rotation or without limits?
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Fantastic video, thanks !!! However, any chance of a circuit diagram please, it would be enormously appreciated, by more than just me, I'm sure, cheers.
It's on my list of things to do, I plan to get back into the free power vids soon so watch this space ;)
m1s73r4nd3rs0n circuit diagram is at 0:27
Is your video still with volume. I cannot hear it at all. Thanks for the genius.
You rewire the stator to reduce the output voltage correct? Why not just leave the stator as is and step the voltage down externally?
It is hard to start the turbine with a load applied and the high voltage high hertz is dangerous and doesn't travel well
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Hello, i have one Question . is the orientation of the fourteen magnets in the rotating drum + - + - etc...?
You may only see what appears to be 14 magnets, however each one of these has several poles. get a small magnet and run over them and you will see the individual poles per magnet
How I wish I could do what you did. I can only understand simple dc motor. Very informative and helpful. I am itching to disassemble old washing machine but stop short of doing so because I may not be able to finish working on what you did :(
Mc Pedro Jr Thanks man. If you're not confident doing this sort of thing, best leave it till you have more experience. I wouldn't want you getting a zap
This is great could do with some audio though. though i can see what you are doing based on the diagram at the start. When you are actually cutting wires it is hard to see and would benefit for some audio description.
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Could this be done with a hoverboard motor also?
I’m trying to research this free energy stuff. Don’t know much about motors but why are you having to cut the wires and then join them in a different configuration to that of what was there out of the washing machine?
Re-configuring the wiring produces higher amps at a lower voltage, more suitable for charging a battery bank and safer for the amateur to work with
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So... You recon I can use these kind of motors to power a sail plane as well?
Would it be strong enough for that if i used four of these?
Haha.. not sure it would meet aviation standards
Would you understand how a mini vacuum spark gap between each stator leg could affect the electrical generation?
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So by welding the lines together is he ultimately reversing the direction of the electrical energy?
No.
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Question: If you'd want to use the engine in a boat or an e-bike. With this wiring you can use the engine with 12-30 volt battery packs am i right?
+Antero Vipunen Yes that's right
is it possible to make two phase since for charging a battery you require only two phase
lee cyril peter You could do that, but I don't see any benefit. If you need higher rpm you can just wind out the rotor to decrease drag from the magnets
Thanks flow your quick reply. I have taken apart an lg direct drive motor. It has 36 poles but I don't think it makes much difference. But it has aluminium windings very tough to solder. Any tips. Thanks
lee cyril peter I'm not sure if you can solder aluminium, Id rip all the wire off & start again with copper wire, you should only need 20 wraps per pole to match output
I thought of doing just that. Thanks dude
so each one of theses create how many watts and at what RPM?
That depends how much water you want to use, and at what pressure, and how fast you want to risk spinning the turbine.
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Could have used an up close look and explanation of an individual group of 3 windings because it looks like the wires go every which direction so it would be nice to know what you focus on to cut and why.
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Hello, nice video ! if we want to have 220v ac output, should i rewire ? Thanks
dont do this unless you intend to control the water flow valve by the frequency of the output power. the idea of charging a battery and then using an inverter gives regulation of the frequency and the voltage to protect appliances. the only thing you can run off an unregulated supply from a frequency ( generator speed) point of view is an old style incandescent lamp so that's useless. to get 220 v you would alter the rewinding process and split it into just two groups of 7 in series/parallel i suspect
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I have a Samsung direct drive DC motor like this that i want to rewire. My motor says 310v DC and I have found the common diagrams showing how to rewire the motor in different ways but I am a bit confused. Every video I have found shows motors that look just slightly different than mine. I have 36 poles and all but my terminals are on the opposite side of the bridge where all the wires are connected. When looking at the stator from the top all of these motors seem to have the terminals on the right side of the bridge therefore putting the bridge at the end of the coil if you went around it counter clockwise. My motor has the terminals to the left of the bridge so would I do the same thing but in reverse to wire it following it around clockwise? Thanks and great work!
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Is there any reason you cannot use a small gas engine to spin this and make a portable generator?
Not direct ac with this config, but they make good battery chargers when coupled to a gas motor. This one would put out 30+ amps @ 24v or 60 amps at 12v
Buddhanz1
Thanks, I'll have to keep figuring on it before I go at something.
Buddhanz1
What rpm would the rotor have to turn at to generate the 720 watts (i.e 30+A@24V or 60A@12V) that you described above?
A B Around 1000 to 1200 rpm from memory
Salve, sto lavorando al suo stesso progetto, non sono molto addentrato in questo campo, le volevo chiedere : devo usare un raddrizzatore? e che tipo di regolatore di carica usare per controllare la carica delle batterie senza avere sopraccarico di tensione? Grazie.
It maybe a stupid question, but do you have to re-wire it and furthermore are you able to have the magnets rotating over the coils instead of inside the stator? Thanks.
Hello again, can You tell me how much Ampers produces your generator ? For example in 500 rpm ? Thanks
Vratislav Hrubý At 1000rpm I can squeeze 35 amps at 24 vots out of it, 500 rpm would be less than that, maybe 15 amps
Ou It´s realy strong . With this power I have electricity for all my village :)
I have to try it
Woudn't be better to do phase 1 then 3 and then 2? So the 1 and 3 would be better separated and then last 2 would be easy to isolate from the 3 because it's on the top?
Why does it have to be that specific make and model washing machine? Is it because of the motor type?
+Laurent Blanchet It needs to be a permanent magnet type to produce high amps at low rpm
+Angry Ram ah, ok. So there may be other brands around the World that will work.
+Laurent Blanchet I'm told the whirlpool and maytag are ok to use but I haven't tried them so can't recommend.
Hi Angry Ram,can I rewired 36 pole 4x3C ? Isnt better for 24 Volt battery? What is different? Thanks.
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stupid question and i should seek my own answer, but how did you get to the design rewire of the poles to know it would produce 24 volts? are each set of poles 24 volts and all groups are utilized together by putting the 7 of them in parallel ? each coil must produce 4 volts? 6 poles in a group together is 24? and 7 groups in parallel?
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I intend to connect it to a Bedini Wheel that I build with a 1 Meter Dia Wheel and 16 Neidium Magnets 165 Lb Pull each ,the wheel spin 200RPM using 40Vand 8 Amps what do you think,I believe it will end up charging its own Batteryas well as charging my battery bank.
Paul
I don't get your concept.. do you mean a perpetual motion generator?
Hi Paul, I'm very interested what you done can you please send me e-mail on: jastreb000@gmail.com than you...
hi i have watched and now made a power machine exactly as you have shown on this video and im proud of the result so thanks the only problem i have is that my power source is a poor excuse for a stream and i wonder if you have another way of boosting the power source maybe a pump of some kind i eagerly await your answer thanking you abie
I have an identical stator except it has 36 poles instead of 42. If i follow the diagram correctly mine appears to be Factory wired at 36 pole 1x12c.
My question is; If I rewire mine to 36 pole 6x2c, At the same RPMs would I get less Volts or less Amps than yours (42 Pole 7x2c)?
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Make sure that's hi temp hot glue, I should think. I've read there are lower temp types.
Wouldn't this be more efficient to run at a higher voltage until you get to your battery and then have a transformer stepping it down to a voltage regulator for your set of batteries?
yes and no because it can't run heavy things like your fringe out will need a lot of then
That is my same question.
Why can't you put the voltage step down transformer and rectifier diodes for charging batteries?
hello.. can i know? how i want to get 12V (ac)???.. with the small size generator..
Can I use this as a generator without rewiring as you did in the video?
Yes but it will put out over 400v and high hz, not useful for charging a battery bank and dangerous for the novice to work with. I would not recommend it
Angry Ram whats the output voltage now as well as the amps?? thanks
Around 60v open circuit, but it shouldn't ever be open circuit. It will always be connected to a battery bank, The battery bank dictates the output voltage so voltage ranges from around 23.5 - 29 depending on state of charge, amps peak at around 30. Of course this is site dependent, a site with more water flow / head, output will peak at around 1kw
So You rewired the motor to make lower voltage AC with higher amps, and then "rectified it" to produce DC volts? Then the results showed that out of the rectifiers you were getting an average of about 26 volts DC with a max of 30 amps. that is awesome! okay so i am currently building a generator myself but in a whole diferent way and i am stuck on which direction i should go when it comes to the electrical portion to it.. could you help me out and shoot me an email? please and thank you
Chris Keller
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could you use the same stater wiring diagram on a lg or Samsung 36 pole not sure which one it is
can i do this with any other type of washer??
+James Newman No, it must be a fisher & paykal smartdrive or similar permanent magnet type
+Angry Ram I'm sorry, but no. Though that is probably a good start, it's not the only route. However, for this example, the smartdrive is probably your best choice. If you want to go further, I suggest learning generators/alternators, I'm into it now. I do like your wiring scheme. A Ram, have you looked into electromagnets for your magnet power? They make Neodymium look like a joke.
You can easily get rid of the laquer by burning it off with a small blowtorch. or bunsen burner.
Very very good job my friend 👍
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sorry, but where the pressured water you give from?
TheSaeed111111 I have a small stream on my property
how mutch the different you have to keep so strong pressure? it could be up to 40 meters!
TheSaeed111111 yes it is around 40 metres, it is in a steep gulley
31 meter head
Hi
Really like your project. Do you know if you can convert the smart drive washing machine to run on DC. I want to go off grid without an inverter and am looking for ways to have all DC appliances. Cheers
Paul Waddell I think it would be more trouble than its worth. Looks like someone has posted the question here - forum.allaboutcircuits.com/threads/12v-24v-to-a-3-phase-smartdrive-motor.42225/
isnt this making DC power at the end with the 3 rectifiers put in?
Vous avez un pdf pour les plans de construction s'il vous plaît ?
can show it to us in operation?
ducatijim
Ahhh i clicked it!! I fucking clicked it AHHHHHHHH
Doesn't work for me.... LOL
did you check the voltage and amperage with original factory wiring configuration? did you rewire to get more amp?