Limited Run Games Sells Burnt CD-R Games! LRG and the D 3DO Disaster

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  • Опубликовано: 21 авг 2024

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  • @neonkaiju
    @neonkaiju 3 месяца назад +170

    Absolutely ridiculous, BUT also a sign that LRG knows their audience: Scalpers who'll never actually open this stuff. At some point they may just cut costs and go ahead and resort to the ol' "Stereo box full of bricks" trick.

    • @VideoGameEsoterica
      @VideoGameEsoterica  3 месяца назад +30

      Guess they didn’t count on weird D’s Diner Director’s Cut fans like me who already owned the damn game 🤣

    • @pedr0_m198
      @pedr0_m198 3 месяца назад +18

      yep, most people who buy from lrg dont even open the games. Most keep them sealed and others just re sell them.
      Its so shitty they did this.

    • @VideoGameEsoterica
      @VideoGameEsoterica  3 месяца назад +13

      So weird. I’d never leave it sealed

    • @Mike-B-Jackson
      @Mike-B-Jackson 3 месяца назад +10

      This. LRG are just sealed collectables. It could be a brick inside and nobody would care as long as it’s sealed and sells on eBay. Hahaha

    • @VideoGameEsoterica
      @VideoGameEsoterica  3 месяца назад +9

      Haha they didn’t take me into account

  • @SkyScourgeGod
    @SkyScourgeGod 3 месяца назад +151

    Quick update. Looks like limited run release an email to its customers and they're saying they're working with the distributor to make pressed versions of this game now. Only when this issue gains traction did they care. What a joke.

    • @VideoGameEsoterica
      @VideoGameEsoterica  3 месяца назад +40

      Hahahah we did it

    • @goatbone
      @goatbone 3 месяца назад +4

      Honestly that sounds like a good response.

    • @VideoGameEsoterica
      @VideoGameEsoterica  3 месяца назад +6

      Glad something is happening

    • @devilmikey00
      @devilmikey00 3 месяца назад

      @@goatbone It's one thing when a company has a defective product and corrects it swiftly, shit happens. This on the other hand is malicious cost cutting. They did this because they didn't think anyone would notice since this is a very niche game that isn't going to sell many copies and a lot of LRG's products end up in the hands of scalpers and shelf collectors who will never open it. They are correcting the issue because they got caught doing something underhanded, not because of some oversight or unforeseen defect.
      Is it better than nothing? Yes. Is it in any way worthy of praise given this circumstance? No. I mean they probably produced less than a 1000 of these and I bet they didn't even have a distributor for it. They probably just had some dude in the office with a CD burner bang these out then sent them to a local printer for the artwork on top the discs.

    • @cheater00
      @cheater00 3 месяца назад +1

      Well done homie! Victory!

  • @toadofsky_
    @toadofsky_ 3 месяца назад +30

    So limited run is finally getting its comeuppance. People have been criticizing this company for a while now and they’re deserving of it

  • @PopeTheRevXXVIII
    @PopeTheRevXXVIII 3 месяца назад +59

    I've been calling them Limited Scam for years.
    I also know a thing or two about CD-Rs since I burn tons for Dreamcast. They Cheaped out. CMC Pros and Ritek are what I use as they don't have cheap dyes. TDK does.
    Guess what Limited Scam used?
    TDK discs Ding ding ding

    • @VideoGameEsoterica
      @VideoGameEsoterica  3 месяца назад +8

      Cheapest bulk they could get

    • @PopeTheRevXXVIII
      @PopeTheRevXXVIII 3 месяца назад +5

      A 600 pack of Riteks the ones I use are a little under $150 on Amazon. 2 Orders would make that money back.
      Of course they could also not cheap out and just press the discs

    • @tokyobassist
      @tokyobassist 3 месяца назад +1

      This release reminded me of the half ass Metalocalypse Complete Season that wasn't even in Blu Ray format, was $90 and the first run of it didn't even have the hour special that basically everybody wanted it for.
      Then the kicker was that they preorders ship out anyway then delisted the product from stores to fix the bad batches and someone not even part of the distribution company informed customers that they can receive a replacement disc. Wasn't advertised anywhere so a lot of people got screwed over.

    • @RdCrestdBreegull
      @RdCrestdBreegull 3 месяца назад +1

      @@tokyobassistwhich Metalocalypse season are you talking about?

    • @cheater00
      @cheater00 3 месяца назад

      Wtf?

  • @BRKsEDU
    @BRKsEDU 3 месяца назад +61

    How can anyone trust any Limited Run disc releases going forward? What a disaster. I'm so glad I didn't buy it... thanks for sharing the situation.

    • @VideoGameEsoterica
      @VideoGameEsoterica  3 месяца назад +13

      I wouldn’t trust them for a long time after this

    • @mattsephton
      @mattsephton 3 месяца назад +5

      This is the latest in a long line of things like this, yet people still keep giving them money for things that arrive years late and not as described.

    • @VideoGameEsoterica
      @VideoGameEsoterica  3 месяца назад +1

      Sadly it’s true

    • @JLAvey
      @JLAvey 3 месяца назад

      They know people keep coming back to them and will keep pushing how much they can cheat

  • @Rk3tSk8s-ut4yo
    @Rk3tSk8s-ut4yo 3 месяца назад +19

    Kenji Eno as an artist would be mad. His games were art and ahead of their time. It's a slap in the face that such low quality was allowed by LRG.

    • @VideoGameEsoterica
      @VideoGameEsoterica  3 месяца назад +5

      Yes of all the people, especially sadly no longer alive, to get such a cash grab reprint with zero effort

  • @wabbit234
    @wabbit234 3 месяца назад +15

    I think you've miss-understood the meaning of the name Limited Run.
    It refers to the the much more limited life-span of CD-Rs. You only have a limited amount of time to use the discs.
    It's basically high concept art that goes over most peoples heads.

  • @beefquiche
    @beefquiche 3 месяца назад +25

    And just like that, I will never give this company any business ever again.

    • @VideoGameEsoterica
      @VideoGameEsoterica  3 месяца назад +6

      A popular sentiment today for sure

    • @mintydog06
      @mintydog06 3 месяца назад +2

      They were good but I stopped buying from them a year or so ago.

    • @GeorgeZimmermen
      @GeorgeZimmermen 3 месяца назад +3

      I stopped after they became woke trash

    • @beefquiche
      @beefquiche 3 месяца назад +1

      @@GeorgeZimmermen oh no, they also went woke? I notice a lot of grifter companies have jumped onto the woke bandwagon.

    • @GeorgeZimmermen
      @GeorgeZimmermen 3 месяца назад +2

      @@beefquiche you didn’t hear the story of the girl they fired last year and that whole debacle? I will never support them after that

  • @mexicool187
    @mexicool187 3 месяца назад +17

    Does anyone else remember that one guy wearing a 3DO shirt on Monday night (2024) Raw in the front row. That was good advertising for a dead console

  • @SkyScourgeGod
    @SkyScourgeGod 3 месяца назад +124

    I am, unfortunately, one of those people who actually bought this game. I can confirm that all the discs are burned CD-R's. What a damn joke, even companies who make unlicensed games for other consoles like PCE Works for the PC Engine make pressed copies that have high quality discs and packaging. This has been so disappointing. I did send a ticket requesting a return to Limited Run, but I highly doubt they'll even do anything about it.

    • @VideoGameEsoterica
      @VideoGameEsoterica  3 месяца назад +27

      Yeah I’m sure they will avoid the topic. Hence this video. Let’s make it go far and wide p

    • @NodakSavage
      @NodakSavage 3 месяца назад +17

      @@VideoGameEsoterica solution, we as a whole just need to stop buying from this company. I gave up on them years ago to be honest with you.

    • @VideoGameEsoterica
      @VideoGameEsoterica  3 месяца назад +16

      That’s my last purchase

    • @paperandpavement
      @paperandpavement 3 месяца назад +9

      I stopped buying from them when tbe whole "revenge of the Bird king" crap they pulled on everyone. Scum company

    • @VideoGameEsoterica
      @VideoGameEsoterica  3 месяца назад +5

      It’s like dozens of stories like this sadly

  • @BubblegumCrash332
    @BubblegumCrash332 3 месяца назад +28

    I'm glad everyone is speaking about this. Limited Run has some really shady practices. Artificial scarcity and horrible customer service. They act like a humble little game company carrying the flag for game preservation but they do things I would expect from EA or some shady Chinese company

    • @VideoGameEsoterica
      @VideoGameEsoterica  3 месяца назад +5

      Cloaking themselves with preservation while selling CD-Rs

  • @blandmanager
    @blandmanager 3 месяца назад +61

    I bet they thought no one was going to actually open it and try it out. Limited Effort.

    • @VideoGameEsoterica
      @VideoGameEsoterica  3 месяца назад +13

      Not only did I open it I did it in one shot so everyone could see just how garbage it is

    • @blandmanager
      @blandmanager 3 месяца назад +3

      @@VideoGameEsoterica They just completely tanked any good will they built up. So dumb!

    • @VideoGameEsoterica
      @VideoGameEsoterica  3 месяца назад +5

      Oh yeah they won’t live this down

    • @MrVariant
      @MrVariant 3 месяца назад

      Lol don't copy that floppy 💾

    • @bustywaifus
      @bustywaifus 3 месяца назад

      @@VideoGameEsoterica Do you think they'll ever release their other 3D0 game Plumbers don't wear ties?

  • @WarriorTier
    @WarriorTier 3 месяца назад +10

    This is wild! It sucks when companies hate their fans.

    • @VideoGameEsoterica
      @VideoGameEsoterica  3 месяца назад +2

      Just seeing people as wallets they can reach into and extra cash for nothing

    • @chesterfieldthe3rd929
      @chesterfieldthe3rd929 3 месяца назад

      WOTGREED stand up!!!

    • @yellowblanka6058
      @yellowblanka6058 3 месяца назад

      Companies don’t care about your loyalty, just your money. They’re not our friends - vote with your wallet.

  • @37Kilo2
    @37Kilo2 3 месяца назад +7

    Limited Run quality has taken a huge dive over the last few years. Not only that, but prices on many of their collectors versions are absolutely mental.
    I've got a few pre-orders with them from last year. I've had issues with LR over the last few years, but this is definitely the final nail for me.

    • @movienerd202
      @movienerd202 3 месяца назад +2

      It's always been a cash-in on the nostalgia factor.

  • @mastermaniac1911
    @mastermaniac1911 3 месяца назад +13

    They claim they had issues with traditional reproduction, because supposedly different 3do consoles were struggling with the results. So, for compatibility sake, they went with CDRs, only to find out that didn't work either (I mean, obviously?).
    IDK. It sure does feel cheap, even though they claim it wasn't done as a cost-reduction measure. There's an article on time extension for anyone interested.

    • @VideoGameEsoterica
      @VideoGameEsoterica  3 месяца назад +15

      I don’t buy that at all. 3DO is a standard disc with Opera file system sized sectors. Nothing unique about them at all

    • @devilmikey00
      @devilmikey00 3 месяца назад +6

      They are a corporately owned company as of 2022 (Embracer group). It's cost cutting 100%. It's not even really a question, line must go up. Article is just PR fluff to cover for cost cutting.

    • @37Kilo2
      @37Kilo2 3 месяца назад +5

      Embracer is a shitshow and an absolute curse for gamers. They've sunk so many good studios and projects due to greed.

    • @VideoGameEsoterica
      @VideoGameEsoterica  3 месяца назад +1

      Everything they’ve touched seems to go badly

    • @mastermaniac1911
      @mastermaniac1911 3 месяца назад

      Embracer are a bunch of non-gaming idiots who think all they have to do to make money is to throw around some capital. They're scum, and barely more intelligent than your average wet sock.

  • @eerie009
    @eerie009 3 месяца назад +7

    I'm a longtime viewer that usually enjoys your arcade game overviews, but I'm really happy to see you speak out about this issue. The last time I bought from LRG was for River City Girls and VA-11 Hall-A. I already knew they were pretty scummy pushing artificial scarcity and forcing people to set reminders for a certain date when pre-orders would open and promptly sell out within 10 minutes. But even worse is they're still running the practice of keeping your money hostage for an entire year before even receiving the product. It's not surprising that they would try to cut corners despite the community taking notice of their recent releases in the last few years being of particularly lower quality. Thanks to your video though, the issue is blowing up on twitter and hopefully other social media platforms and they won't get away with this. Big respect to you for putting your reputation on the line and doing what's right. I hope this is enough to deter consumers from supporting LRG again, and I hope LRG at least makes good on this and sends out replacements/offers refunds. What a shame those who carried Kenji Eno's legacy trusted this company and LRG couldn't even get it right with over a years worth of time to prepare and ensure everything was up to the high standards they proudly claim they have.

    • @VideoGameEsoterica
      @VideoGameEsoterica  3 месяца назад +1

      I normally don’t do videos like this as I don’t find them “fun” but this def needed to be addressed

  • @adventuretaco7140
    @adventuretaco7140 3 месяца назад +9

    D’s NUUUUUUTS!!! Loved the custom Cdr art

  • @ciaranmccarthy
    @ciaranmccarthy 3 месяца назад +36

    It seems like every part of the gaming industry is collapsing all at once. What a total shit show. I am so glad I just play old games.

    • @VideoGameEsoterica
      @VideoGameEsoterica  3 месяца назад +7

      It hasn’t been a good 18 months

    • @mastermaniac1911
      @mastermaniac1911 3 месяца назад +1

      @@VideoGameEsoterica For anyone, really.

    • @VideoGameEsoterica
      @VideoGameEsoterica  3 месяца назад +3

      Haha sadly no

    • @tokyobassist
      @tokyobassist 3 месяца назад

      The moment the founders sold off the company to Embracer and quit (not saying much because the COO especially was a weirdo), this was going to be a sinking ship. Limited Run is going to go away before long because it's probably in Embracer's best interest (and platform holders) to have their purchases be digital versus physical sadly.

  • @grouchygamer2404
    @grouchygamer2404 3 месяца назад +29

    They should get sued for it.

  • @hermes_job_observer144
    @hermes_job_observer144 3 месяца назад +6

    So sad, bro! Kenji Eno's up there with Fumito Ueda as one of my favorite people in games period! Ueda even got his start under Eno's wing, working on Enemy Zero as a WARP member! His works and memory deserves more than this lazy effort. Very disappointing. 😢 i originally subscribed to you when i saw you were one of the Eno tribe! Loved your vids on the OG D2 protypes! Cheers to Eno. I hope he isnt rolling in his grave! I'm sure he'd have hand delivered them if he could and would have a word with LRG for their desecration of his masterpiece! Peace.

    • @VideoGameEsoterica
      @VideoGameEsoterica  3 месяца назад +2

      Ueda working with Eno makes perfect sense. You can see Eno in his work

    • @hermes_job_observer144
      @hermes_job_observer144 3 месяца назад +1

      @@VideoGameEsoterica I've heard he actually did some work on D as well as Enemy Zero. I'd like to know if he worked on the OG D2 prototype and what he did. The early CG he created for Ico back on PS1 has similar tones imo.

    • @VideoGameEsoterica
      @VideoGameEsoterica  3 месяца назад +1

      I’ve always tried to get in contact but as of yet have not been successful

    • @cheater00
      @cheater00 3 месяца назад

      Eno os rotating in his grave at 10000 RPM (these discs would shatter and fall apart at that rotational frequency)

  • @ShadyPlatinum777
    @ShadyPlatinum777 3 месяца назад +4

    This is what happens when a company make games for shelf collectors

    • @VideoGameEsoterica
      @VideoGameEsoterica  3 месяца назад +3

      Seriously seems like they didn’t expect anyone to open it

    • @ShadyPlatinum777
      @ShadyPlatinum777 3 месяца назад

      @@VideoGameEsoterica it’s a joke

    • @cs9927
      @cs9927 3 месяца назад

      @@VideoGameEsotericaand that the problem… too much $$ to waste on this company

  • @Lock2002ful
    @Lock2002ful 3 месяца назад +3

    Stupid question but what is the difference between a burned and a pressed disc? I somehow have never heard of the term pressed disc.

    • @VideoGameEsoterica
      @VideoGameEsoterica  3 месяца назад +3

      Pressed / replicated is a wholly diff process of producing optical media. It gets complicated but pressed is made from a glass master and plastics are then laid up and melted and “pressed” per disc. Higher quality / diff process / better reflective quality and longevity
      Duplicated / burnt is a dye layer that is burnt like your standard CD-R

  • @PandaMoniumReviews
    @PandaMoniumReviews 3 месяца назад +6

    Hey, good coverage on this. LR needs to be called out.

    • @VideoGameEsoterica
      @VideoGameEsoterica  3 месяца назад +1

      Glad you appreciated it. I don’t ever do videos like this. Hope I don’t have to again in the future

    • @PandaMoniumReviews
      @PandaMoniumReviews 3 месяца назад

      @@VideoGameEsoterica I know the feeling. Crazy to see the very obvious ring you usually see on a burned CD-R on something like this.

    • @VideoGameEsoterica
      @VideoGameEsoterica  3 месяца назад +1

      I heard it was CD-R yesterday afternoon and first thing this morning after I got my AM video out I moved to shooting this. I still can’t believe that’s what they shipped

  • @thecoolestfool7688
    @thecoolestfool7688 3 месяца назад +14

    as a fan of boutique blu ray labels, it's a shame that the video game boutique publishers are so lacking and bad most of the time

    • @VideoGameEsoterica
      @VideoGameEsoterica  3 месяца назад +8

      Boutique film reissues beat out the gaming market for sure

    • @yatheo2969
      @yatheo2969 3 месяца назад +3

      We need a Kino or Criterion equivalent to games but I don't see that happening.

    • @VideoGameEsoterica
      @VideoGameEsoterica  3 месяца назад +1

      Maybe one day

  • @RegalEagle1979
    @RegalEagle1979 3 месяца назад +14

    Gotta say I'm really curious to see how they try to spin this to save face. There obviously is no excuse, but I'm dying to see what their "excuse" is.

    • @VideoGameEsoterica
      @VideoGameEsoterica  3 месяца назад +7

      If they are smart say “manufacturing error” and replace all discs with pressed copies

    • @joshuakelly9390
      @joshuakelly9390 3 месяца назад +6

      They're replying on twitter now:
      "Hey, there! We are actively working with our disc replication partners to provide replacement pressed discs for our customers. We do invite any customer experiencing an issue to request a full refund by visiting: "

    • @RegalEagle1979
      @RegalEagle1979 3 месяца назад

      @@joshuakelly9390 HAHAHA. Of course they're passing the blame onto their anonymous vendor. I had a feeling they would go that route. As if they never got a chance to see any of these burned CDRs before they got shipped to customers.

    • @toadofsky_
      @toadofsky_ 3 месяца назад +1

      I wouldn’t doubt they thought they could get away with this

  • @DrScience76
    @DrScience76 3 месяца назад +4

    Can't wait for them to make the same mistake with the Plumbers Don't Wear Ties release.

  • @dlang6487
    @dlang6487 3 месяца назад +2

    I'm such a fan of D and D2 that I married a blonde girl named Laura! 😆 Honestly though, I played D when she was nearby and was freaked out when Laura's D says her name! Wish I recorded it! Keep up the awesome content you release about arcade hardware!

    • @VideoGameEsoterica
      @VideoGameEsoterica  3 месяца назад +2

      Haha that’s a great story. Love it! I married an Adriane. But she’s cool too

  • @adlorin
    @adlorin 3 месяца назад +1

    I don’t feel so bad for missing the Plumbers Don’t Wear Ties order window.

  • @smashedatoms
    @smashedatoms 3 месяца назад +1

    Great vid and wanna say I love that you speak so highly of Kenji Eno. We lost a creative genius way too early.

    • @VideoGameEsoterica
      @VideoGameEsoterica  3 месяца назад +1

      Yes he more than likely had some amazing things to do still had he not passed away so early

  • @HikikomoriMedia
    @HikikomoriMedia 3 месяца назад +2

    Horrendously disrespectful to Eno's legacy. Great video, thanks for making us aware.

  • @Zenocide
    @Zenocide 3 месяца назад +1

    Thank you for making a video. When the allegations came out, I was disappointed to find out there was no picture or video proof because I know people like to attack the company these days. This is pretty frustrating to see.
    I've had issues with them in the past but they were minor and they were able to help me. What a shame.

    • @VideoGameEsoterica
      @VideoGameEsoterica  3 месяца назад +1

      Yes that’s why I did the unboxing vid. So people knew it was a fact and I did it in one shot on camera

  • @JeffYPbPr
    @JeffYPbPr 3 месяца назад +1

    That’s wild. Thanks for this insight video dude

  • @yellowblanka6058
    @yellowblanka6058 3 месяца назад

    The crazy thing about companies like this thinking they can get away with obvious cost-cutting measures is that the niche that splash out money for these physical releases are in general going to be more likely to notice. This isn’t some mass market PS5 game, but a re-release of a game for a console that was niche on release.

  • @ScottReviews
    @ScottReviews 3 месяца назад +2

    Side note: If someone has never played D before what is the best version to play?

  • @mikedub
    @mikedub 3 месяца назад +13

    That’s a bit ridiculous! What the heck?

  • @RetroGamerBB
    @RetroGamerBB 3 месяца назад +4

    Imgburn will tell you what kind of disc you're working with. Burning discs cant be cheaper or less time consuming than pressings

  • @Ocelot35
    @Ocelot35 Месяц назад +1

    That's what makes them limited.

  • @timmadone8930
    @timmadone8930 3 месяца назад +1

    Does the soundtrack CD have the bonus track hidden like on the original mini CD (track 99) or is it just the 3 songs that are listed on the disc? As a huge fan of this game (& all of Kenji Eno's games) I do feel like I need to get this even if it won't run on my 3DO. But I am disappointed that the game discs are burned & not professionally pressed. Hopefully Fumito Ueda gets credit this time for his contribution to the Director's Cut. But somehow I doubt it. I hear 2 music tracks from "D2" in the background. Nice touch. :)

    • @VideoGameEsoterica
      @VideoGameEsoterica  3 месяца назад +1

      That I’d have to check on. Haven’t as of yet. And yep I used that track. Such a great composition

    • @timmadone8930
      @timmadone8930 3 месяца назад

      @@VideoGameEsoterica Okay let me know once you check. Speaking of Kenji Eno's music, do you have the 12" vinyl E.P. for music from "D2"? I don't remember the title of the E.P. but I believe it has a big D2 on the cover. As far as I know it has 3 to 5 tracks one of which is called "Snowbird" (possibly the Snowbird Mix of "Mexican Flyer" from Space Channel 5?). I don't own this but I'd sure like to have it. The cat no. is SCJD-100001.

    • @VideoGameEsoterica
      @VideoGameEsoterica  3 месяца назад

      No that’s one i haven’t grabbed yet

  • @ekahnoman7331
    @ekahnoman7331 3 месяца назад +1

    They know a majority of their buyers are resellers and collectors, who only buy their limited releases to flip on eBay or to remain sealed and displayed on a shelf.

    • @VideoGameEsoterica
      @VideoGameEsoterica  3 месяца назад

      Maybe they never expected anyone to open this But jokes on them I don’t collect sealed haha

  • @chriscrossan8034
    @chriscrossan8034 3 месяца назад +3

    Not purchased anything from these scoundrels for years.

  • @Axemark38
    @Axemark38 3 месяца назад +2

    D fans deserve so much better after paying a pretty penny for the Collector's Edition. I feel for you guys so much.
    I hope LRG gets sued because this is straight up fraud.

    • @VideoGameEsoterica
      @VideoGameEsoterica  3 месяца назад +1

      No game should ship like this whether it’s D or any other game

  • @beefquiche
    @beefquiche 3 месяца назад +2

    Hard boycott.

  • @SNKev411
    @SNKev411 3 месяца назад +2

    That’s is really messed up man

  • @flynntaggart4567
    @flynntaggart4567 3 месяца назад +1

    Hi, do you know of Eye of the Tyohoon from LRG are CDR?

    • @VideoGameEsoterica
      @VideoGameEsoterica  3 месяца назад +1

      No I don’t believe they are. Never heard anyone say anything about it

  • @ColdHighway7
    @ColdHighway7 3 месяца назад

    Im glad I stopped dealing with Limited Run, sorry that you went through this BS

    • @VideoGameEsoterica
      @VideoGameEsoterica  3 месяца назад

      It happens. At least I can point it out for everyone

  • @beebeedeluxe
    @beebeedeluxe 3 месяца назад

    I can’t help but comment that the Sony CD-R you show at 6:13 time stamp is one of the best quality CD-Rs imo for backing up 32-bit consoles, especially the Saturn 🤓 It’s been slightly better than the re-branded Taiyo Yuden for me when testing multiple burners and IMGburn at 4x. PX-716A = pairs well with it but also newer burners too ( pioneer XD05S/B )
    Ok back to the topic.. 😁 thanks for sharing these details and showing the lack of a true press here! LRG should never cut corners like this

  • @michaelbowen840
    @michaelbowen840 2 месяца назад +1

    I was so chuffed, when I boughtthe 3DO D the director's cut from Japan.
    Yes I got it from eBay, but I don't care, I got everything with it proudly displaying with all my other 3do games.
    But thank you guys for tell me the limited run not a very good company to buy anything off. I will stick to buy off eBay or yahoo Japan 👍

  • @ciaranmccarthy
    @ciaranmccarthy 3 месяца назад +12

    MVG will be embarrassed to work for a company who scams their customers like this.

    • @VideoGameEsoterica
      @VideoGameEsoterica  3 месяца назад +5

      Let’s not bring anyone else into this. I’m sure he’s ten layers removed from it all

    • @jamescampbell6728
      @jamescampbell6728 3 месяца назад +1

      We've all worked for bad companies before. It's just how the world works. Sounds like most of his work has been porting old games to modern hardware which is great so he should be proud of his work

    • @VideoGameEsoterica
      @VideoGameEsoterica  3 месяца назад +4

      Yes. He clearly has zero involvement and nobody should think differently

    • @ciaranmccarthy
      @ciaranmccarthy 3 месяца назад +1

      @@VideoGameEsoterica I know he isn't involved in this side of the business, but I would be embarrassed to be associated with such dirtbags.

    • @thomasnewfield9950
      @thomasnewfield9950 3 месяца назад +1

      MVG boo!

  • @maria_remedios
    @maria_remedios 3 месяца назад

    imagine spitting on the legacy of Kenji Eno like this.

  • @Sonicfoxtrot
    @Sonicfoxtrot 3 месяца назад +1

    For something expensive and well, limited run. This is completely unacceptable. Limitedrungames needs a fire put to their feet and let them know this isn't right. Thanks for making a video on this you're not the first but I feel yours is a bit more meaningful since you're probably the biggest D and Kenji Eno fan on the planet.

  • @Trid3nt861
    @Trid3nt861 3 месяца назад

    I remember D back on the Saturn in the mid 90's.

  • @PapiFed
    @PapiFed 3 месяца назад +1

    100% outrageous

  • @f937r
    @f937r 3 месяца назад +1

    Limited Run Games has been going downhill in quality ever since they switched to the preorder model. They also talk about how they are "a few months behind production due to COVID" but somehow over 4 years can't get it together and continue to release weekly preorders. I bought from them several times in the past, but gave up after it took about 8 months from the time the preorder campaign ending to finally ship. Not to mention the whole fiasco with the Star Wars KOTOR vibroblade. They're cheaping out on many things and still collecting the same amount of money as before.
    Not worth it. Super Rare Games or Strictly Limited would be two companies to actually support.

    • @VideoGameEsoterica
      @VideoGameEsoterica  3 месяца назад +1

      It is odd they take forever to ship yet continue to sell constantly

  • @hybridvigga
    @hybridvigga 6 дней назад

    Damn, that's like buying a physical SNES or MD re-release and only getting a floppy disk with the emulator rom on it.
    Plus you waited ONE YEAR for a Limited Run game to be delivered.
    I didn't know they started offering 'express delivery.'
    They are scum.

  • @stevep9177
    @stevep9177 3 месяца назад

    Can't wait for the D's Diner deluxe canvas bag 😂

  • @clover831
    @clover831 3 месяца назад

    I feel the same way about this sort of thing. They will probably do the same with the Genesis re-releases of Zero the Kamikaze Squirrel & Aero the Acrobat 2.. Instead of using traditional PCB boards in the carts, they will probably use cheap flash carts.

  • @mtshark7
    @mtshark7 3 месяца назад

    I unfortunately bought this copy from LR. I hope they rectify the situation and provide pressed discs.

    • @VideoGameEsoterica
      @VideoGameEsoterica  3 месяца назад +1

      They said they will. Let’s see how long it takes them

  • @rmorris003
    @rmorris003 3 месяца назад +1

    I hate buying something and expecting it to be on a pressed disc then it shows up and it's a burn. At least advertise it's on a recordable.

    • @VideoGameEsoterica
      @VideoGameEsoterica  3 месяца назад

      LRG shouldn’t be anywhere near burned discs for their size and expense

  • @cargorunner9960
    @cargorunner9960 3 месяца назад

    Shocked at how bad this is. Thanks for highlighting this blatant exploitation

  • @andrewdowell6474
    @andrewdowell6474 3 месяца назад

    That's really crummy but I must say, I'm a bit moved by how passionate you are about this game. I remember my brother renting it for PlayStation way back then and I was fascinated by it. I always wanted to give it a try myself. As a true fan of this title, you should absolutely take them to task.

    • @VideoGameEsoterica
      @VideoGameEsoterica  3 месяца назад

      It’s just one of those games that hit me at the right time and add in the 3DO M2 connection and I was sold

  • @atruceforbruce5388
    @atruceforbruce5388 3 месяца назад

    Im waiting for hell: a cyberpunk thriller and killing time

  • @AfterBurnerTeirusu
    @AfterBurnerTeirusu 3 месяца назад

    Their international shipping costs have increased, and are way too expensive now. I checked the price of the Rugrats NES cart, and it was around 100€ with the cheapest shipping option. Did not order it... This situation, censorship of certain games and the shady firing of an employee over brain dead reasons are really making me reconsider ordering many of their titles. I kinda wanted that Rondo of Blood rerelease, but I'm not wasting nearly 100€ on a PC-Engine cd-r. I also want to be excited for the Gex collection, but they'll probably censor it, without mentioning it on the listing.
    I used to order from them monthly back in the day...

  • @MrMegaManFan
    @MrMegaManFan 3 месяца назад

    What's next? Are they going to release physical carts with a NES on a chip blob and a soldered in SD card reader?

  • @rockhyde7775
    @rockhyde7775 3 месяца назад

    I don’t buy repros, like ever. If I were to do this, I’d buy a pack of CD-Rs and burn a game onto them. Hey, that’s what I’ve been doing on the Saturn and Dreamcast. I too use CD-Rs to burn awesome OSTs onto which consist of anime openings/closings, the music I grew up with (that being 2000s punk like Sum 41 and Fall Out Boy which I’m a huge fan of and is my favourite era of music btw) and video game tracks. I’ve been doing that since I was a kid. And I also remember getting a DVD-R for my birthday back when I was like 7 from my sister and it contained episodes of SpongeBob on it. No idea what to do with the stack of DVD-Rs in my house because I remember time and time again, I would get a failed end result, most likely because I did something wrong.

    • @VideoGameEsoterica
      @VideoGameEsoterica  3 месяца назад

      That’s fair. I rarely buy repros unless I support the concept. In the instance of D I support more people playing the game

  • @Charlie-Cat.
    @Charlie-Cat. 3 месяца назад

    Whoa! Talk about a huge bummer this is VGE. Sorry you had to spent good money on this. But this video helps justify since you given us fair warning towards it bro. 8^0
    Anthony..

    • @VideoGameEsoterica
      @VideoGameEsoterica  3 месяца назад

      I’m glad I could do my part to show what they did on camera

  • @jankmedia1985
    @jankmedia1985 3 месяца назад +1

    LRG are absolute masters when it comes to dirt bag business tactics.

  • @BNGamesYT
    @BNGamesYT 3 месяца назад +1

    Ive spent thousands of dollars with them without problems (like this anyway). Definitely going to be weary going forward.

  • @themightyimp08
    @themightyimp08 3 месяца назад

    I have watched a lot of these LRG CD-R rip off videos, and this is by far the most comprehensive report of the situation.
    Amazing content, that you should rightfully be fully proud of.
    You get a sub and like from me.

  • @erichebert8730
    @erichebert8730 3 месяца назад +1

    D’s Diner is a better Les Claypool song anyway.

  • @Mingodough
    @Mingodough 3 месяца назад

    This past year limited run has been really trying to remain relevant. Last year and two years ago they had a bunch of games I’d buy but now they’re kinda dry, this is just the cherry on top

  • @METR0lD
    @METR0lD 3 месяца назад +2

    Ha, D's nuts! 🤣

    • @VideoGameEsoterica
      @VideoGameEsoterica  3 месяца назад

      Glad someone got it. My drawing skills aren’t great

  • @Ivegotsomewater81
    @Ivegotsomewater81 3 месяца назад +1

    This company never ceases to amaze me how shit they are. I originally considered these guys for my upcoming game (it’s on PC), but hearing about the fact that they shipped most PC games on Steam keys and now this, I won’t bother even looking at their site. Forever physical my ass.

    • @VideoGameEsoterica
      @VideoGameEsoterica  3 месяца назад +1

      They do seem to come up with new ways to be terrible

    • @Ivegotsomewater81
      @Ivegotsomewater81 3 месяца назад +1

      @@VideoGameEsoterica Exactly, I am so sorry you got scammed by this crummy company again.

    • @VideoGameEsoterica
      @VideoGameEsoterica  3 месяца назад +1

      In the end I win. Video ad revenue paid me back 🤣

  • @bjraleigh1439
    @bjraleigh1439 3 месяца назад

    Is there not cdr media that mimics the same color as a legit pressed disc? I'm surprised that is not a thing. I'm not a collector, so what concerns me more is the lifespan of those copied discs. Maybe I'm wrong but aren't the light green/yellow colored cdrs the worst you can use when it comes to readibility and lifespan? I gather there is no copy protection on the 3do?

    • @VideoGameEsoterica
      @VideoGameEsoterica  3 месяца назад

      No there is always a slight to large diff in visual appearance

  • @_BELMONT_
    @_BELMONT_ 3 месяца назад +1

    holy shit this is crazy.

  • @METR0lD
    @METR0lD 3 месяца назад +1

    Seriously messed up! I can't believe they would do this. You know they did it because they thought many of the people who bought it probably don't own an actual 3DO, and would never know what they did.

    • @VideoGameEsoterica
      @VideoGameEsoterica  3 месяца назад +1

      Assumed scalpers would buy them all to resell. Well they didn’t anticipate real 3DO fans. The dozens of us!

    • @METR0lD
      @METR0lD 3 месяца назад +3

      R•E•A•L 3DO fans!

  • @DonjiPicudo
    @DonjiPicudo 3 месяца назад

    What's the difference between burned CD-R's and "pressed" disks? How do they "press" them? Isn't the normal manufacturing process to burn them? I thought you only press vinyl

    • @VideoGameEsoterica
      @VideoGameEsoterica  3 месяца назад +1

      It’s replication but we usually call them pressed.

  • @NatsumenoKage
    @NatsumenoKage 3 месяца назад

    Im worried i just got in a pc vr, and switch games in from them. I was going to wait untill i got new cables for my head set. I guess I'm opening it tomorrow. I hadn't planned on opening the switch games at this point. Since i got tired of waiting after a year and got digital copies.

  • @rbgamingnetwork1
    @rbgamingnetwork1 3 месяца назад

    Rather go flashcarts and ODEs for my retro gaming needs. Was going to be a matter of time that a company would try this!

  • @TheSocialGamer
    @TheSocialGamer 3 месяца назад +1

    Selling a full retail game on a CDR... I thought that was only on Etsy Shops selling Repros! 😅 Wow! Some people support this shit. Also waiting a year .. I have never liked LRG and I also never bought from them. Nope, no thanks.

    • @VideoGameEsoterica
      @VideoGameEsoterica  3 месяца назад +1

      Waited a year for what you could have done in an hour with a cd burner

  • @retroforce6919
    @retroforce6919 3 месяца назад

    I remember buying D for the Playstation back in the day when it first came out. It was pretty fun, I think it took me a week to beat the game.

  • @JayP-vh9wc
    @JayP-vh9wc 3 месяца назад +1

    This company im sorry to say needs to go away

    • @VideoGameEsoterica
      @VideoGameEsoterica  3 месяца назад +1

      Their track record is getting worse and worse

    • @JayP-vh9wc
      @JayP-vh9wc 3 месяца назад

      @@VideoGameEsoterica I've only ever bought a couple of things from them and it takes over a year at times with zero communication. That itself should be something they know to change. But they won't.

  • @IndubitablyRetro
    @IndubitablyRetro 3 месяца назад

    Wooooow. This is insane! I’m sorry this has happened to you and other customers. I’m glad I haven’t purchased from them in a long time.

    • @VideoGameEsoterica
      @VideoGameEsoterica  3 месяца назад +1

      It shouldn’t happen to anyone but I’m glad I can showcase how bad it is

    • @IndubitablyRetro
      @IndubitablyRetro 3 месяца назад

      @@VideoGameEsoterica We are fortunate to have people like you. Thank you!

    • @VideoGameEsoterica
      @VideoGameEsoterica  3 месяца назад +1

      Aww thanks. Appreciate that!

  • @henriklindberg4919
    @henriklindberg4919 3 месяца назад

    Mr Bacon, do you talk when you record your videos only to do a separate voice over later? I'm asking because I've been following you for a long time and you often seem to point at things at random without saying anything about them.

    • @VideoGameEsoterica
      @VideoGameEsoterica  3 месяца назад

      The voice over is done to the edit. So sometimes I say what I’m pointing at. Other times I say something different. There is no script so I kind of just “do it”

  • @Jek47
    @Jek47 3 месяца назад

    I’ve followed LRG ever since 2018 when they did limited collectors editions of the Jak and Daxter series (my favourite game series of all time) and every single run I’ve seen them do since then has been disaster after disaster. If it isn’t because of the in some cases > 2 years shipping times on their releases, it’s some other bs like this.
    How this company hasn’t gone under yet is astonishing. They make DKoldies look like a decent company.

    • @VideoGameEsoterica
      @VideoGameEsoterica  3 месяца назад

      If they keep this up they won’t last much longer unless scalpers keep them in business

    • @desklaser
      @desklaser 3 месяца назад

      ​@@VideoGameEsotericaScalpers are the only people keeping them in business. It's going to be hilarious when the market on them all crashes because there are just so many sealed copies of all of those games out there. None of them realize it's just beanie babies all over again.

    • @VideoGameEsoterica
      @VideoGameEsoterica  3 месяца назад

      @desklaser yeah it doesn’t seem like many at all get opened

  • @brandogg
    @brandogg 3 месяца назад +1

    Truly pathetic, they need to refund everyone or ship replacements that are proper pressed discs.

    • @VideoGameEsoterica
      @VideoGameEsoterica  3 месяца назад

      Seems like replacements might be coming

    • @desklaser
      @desklaser 3 месяца назад

      ​@@VideoGameEsotericaThose replacement discs might come, and at no less than two years. Nobody should allow LRG to keep their money even longer. Just file chargebacks. Fuck em. Make sure you get your money back. Don't ask nicely for LRG to do it for you.

    • @VideoGameEsoterica
      @VideoGameEsoterica  3 месяца назад

      Charge back window is more than likely closed

  • @deepblue8143
    @deepblue8143 3 месяца назад

    Why wouldn't it play since 3D0 has zero copyright protection. You can make burned copies of your 3D0 games and play them.

    • @VideoGameEsoterica
      @VideoGameEsoterica  3 месяца назад

      Not on all console models. Some do not like blank discs

  • @Gillium
    @Gillium 3 месяца назад

    Wild. I was already put off by their ridiculous wait times ("we promise to deliver your order some time in the future after the chargeback window has lapsed"). This, on the other hand, is just inexcusable. Never again, Limited Run.

  • @ReaverXIII
    @ReaverXIII 3 месяца назад

    i just have started the video, i saw a twitter post from todd (retro frog) and i'm wondering, why its bad? What is the difference with a saturn or ps1 cd game?

    • @VideoGameEsoterica
      @VideoGameEsoterica  3 месяца назад +1

      Many 3DO systems will not even boot these discs. Let alone the fact you don’t sell CD-Rs without telling people that’s what they are getting

    • @mercuryshadow09
      @mercuryshadow09 3 месяца назад +1

      A retail Saturn/PS1 won't play CD-R's.

  • @Seafoamgaming
    @Seafoamgaming 3 месяца назад

    The shiren 5 pc situation taught them nothing.

  • @tanbeardgaming
    @tanbeardgaming 3 месяца назад

    Makes me wonder, what about the PC version from Limited Run Games that would work on your old-school desktop?

    • @VideoGameEsoterica
      @VideoGameEsoterica  3 месяца назад

      Not sure I know what you mean?

    • @tanbeardgaming
      @tanbeardgaming 3 месяца назад

      ​@@VideoGameEsotericaI haven't come across any discussions regarding the issues that the PC version of the game 'D' by Limited Run Games is facing. It's possible that the game disc works well on older computers, but I'm not entirely sure. However, it's unfortunate that the company failed to realize the problems with the 3DO release, considering that you can burn your own ROM disc to play on its original hardware. It would be better if they partnered with different companies to manufacture official discs instead of scamming their customers. Given their track record, this wouldn't surprise me at all. But in all seriousness, this is bad.

    • @VideoGameEsoterica
      @VideoGameEsoterica  3 месяца назад

      Ahh I see. Yeah I don’t think that copy is Cd-R

  • @brandonwaters4955
    @brandonwaters4955 3 месяца назад

    that's terrible :(
    didn't know about this reprint and glad I missed it, but so disrespectful to such an important game

    • @VideoGameEsoterica
      @VideoGameEsoterica  3 месяца назад

      It’s not what any fans expected or wanted that’s for sure

  • @tgheretford
    @tgheretford 3 месяца назад

    One telltale sign you have a game on a CD-R, no Compact Disc wordmark on the artwork. All games on CD had the basic wordmark. Those CD-R's would either have to have the recordable wordmark (which they won't because that would have consumers refuse to buy them) or not have a wordmark on at all. If they added a basic wordmark like the original 3DO game CD has on those CD-R's, they would be violating the standard, committing trademark violation and duping consumers, leading to action from the FTC or trading standards or even legal action.

    • @VideoGameEsoterica
      @VideoGameEsoterica  3 месяца назад

      So many ways to tell a CD-R there was no way LRG could ever hide it

  • @Gerenocidiac
    @Gerenocidiac 3 месяца назад

    Edit: Is there any recourse for this particular release? As someone who does open and play the games purchased from LRG, if this was my experience; and LRG did not explicitly state it would be on burned CD-Rs; I would be wanting a refund, even if it was opened. Pressed discs simply work better on the aging hardware for consoles like the 3DO/PC Engine CD/Dreamcast etc.
    I guess if you want to ensure you're getting a pressed disc, you have to limit yourself to games on newer consoles that couldn't play burned discs.
    This is still garbage though. I've bought 4-5 titles off LRG, some SNES and PS5 games.
    I will definitely keep this in mind going forward.

    • @VideoGameEsoterica
      @VideoGameEsoterica  3 месяца назад

      It looks like they will be reprinting all the discs for purchasers. That’ll have to be seen when and how

  • @callme_Sweetpea
    @callme_Sweetpea 3 месяца назад

    I am honestly curious what manufacturer of CD-r's Limited Run Games went with, because the quality burn media varies considerably depending who actually made it. Somehow I wish they went with the expensive stuff, but I doubt they did.

    • @VideoGameEsoterica
      @VideoGameEsoterica  3 месяца назад

      Yeah sadly that’s info we can’t glean from the discs

  • @shinigamiauthor
    @shinigamiauthor 3 месяца назад +1

    LRG is a big scam, imo I long ago gave up on even giving them thought

  • @dan_perry
    @dan_perry 3 месяца назад

    Unlimited Fail Games....this is ridiculous!

  • @songsan807
    @songsan807 3 месяца назад

    I heard about LRG but never brought anything from them. Sad. I buy many things and still sealed for my collections. If I were a big fan and brought this for my collection, I would never have opened it up and know about the CD-R. Good job.

    • @VideoGameEsoterica
      @VideoGameEsoterica  3 месяца назад

      Yeah I don’t leave anything sealed usually. Unless it’s in my shame pile and I haven’t gotten to it lol

  • @zJericho101z
    @zJericho101z 3 месяца назад

    I would have thought CDR are more expensive too begin with anyway.

  • @gregjarvis1232
    @gregjarvis1232 3 месяца назад

    When you press a cd in this case it sounds like it also matters what type of cd you use? I would like to get some inset into this as I looked it up on the net and still donhave a definite answer on the difference between a burn't and pressed Disc and why does a pressed disc last longer than a burnt disc?
    Thanks in advance

  • @xferone
    @xferone 3 месяца назад

    Limited Run games has been horrible experience in last couple of years with their releases taking forever. No point to ever order any of their games