How GeorgeNotFound Lost His Entire Audience In 1 Month
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imagine being forced to apologize over something being blown way out of proportion. rlly insults serious sa victims
these are the kinda thing that makes me biassed towards woman and the reason Ill probably never get a girlfriend😭😭
Nah, people around him were also pressuring him. Even if you know you're right and did it with consent, anyone would doubt with the pressure whether if they actually did something wrong. He did not deserve that.
@@kaynkayn9870I agree
@@funnyvideo-vn9klngl what I learned from being around fellow cre8ors and just living life is never publicly apologize. I noticed once any company or person does it never end positive... when ppl just ignore it, it works out better. At first ppl slam you but over time they just forget. Same can go for in court. As soon as you apologize you admit guilt
@@kaynkayn9870 Being gaslit and gaslighting yourself into either thinking you're guilty or feeling guilty even when you know you're not is very real. Heck I've done that to myself before, and it sucks.
He should sue her ass for defamation. She essentially ruined his career for shits and giggles
yeah like all he did (thinking she was over 21 bc of that wristband) is like cuddle her. yk how many of my friends over my age cuddle me? and i dont DIRECTLY say i consent, but the claims that she was smiling and playfighting, WITH a 2nd witness, Dream, is enough to get a lot of people on george's side. and let me bring your attention to this: NUMBER 1: she read the entire thing on her phone. if she wrote it, would she not have known her story? NUMBER 2: she had NO OTHER people to claim her side of the story. and NUMBER 3: she never ever replied accordingly to any of geore's or dream's claims. personally, i side with george on this one. many people can go on the internet after meeting a content creator, cry, and say some rando script.
That’s what he gets for calling the VANOSS groups some pedos when he and dream are pedos themselves 🤡
He cant sue her because she never specifically mentioned him, its really sad that people are like this.
@@maggiethemaggot123 She should issue a public apology to George for ruining his reputation over false/exeraggerated/lied by omission SA allegations and pay him back for the brand deals lost with Mr.Beast over the matter. Caiti is not only wrong morally, but also legally - the concept of consent is very dependent on the situation which is why a non-verbal consent clause exists in legislation. Caiti's smiling, 1 hour consensual cuddling, + willingly going back after getting back multiple times would fall under non verbal consent (really, search it up!). Really, what everyone should be saying, Caiti got what she deserved and it was unfair that George was hated on by millions (maybe even tens of millions, just look at the twitter statistics on whos viewed tweets) and lost multiple brand deals. All you said was relatively okay too I guess, but people should really be knowing the entire hard hitting important details such as consent, lying by omission (leaving out cuddling, smiling (this is a big non-verbal consent sign), playfighting), exaggerated claims
This actually pisses me off a lot because my mother had a friend who went to America, two girls accused him of sexual assault, he was proven innocent but still they wouldn't drop the charges and he wasn't allowed 100 feet within a school. He ended up taking his life and everytime I watch videos like these I remember that and it genuinely makes me upset. I'm not one to wish downfall on people but I genuinely hope she finds herself an early grave.
I pray his soul rests in Peace
Damn right man
Don't mean to disrespect or make a dead man look any lesser, but me personally I would've never taken that. Would've pursued that 'til I dropped dead. And there just ain't no way I'm dropping dead for two american girls who think they have all the power. Keep fighting that bullcrap, s'what people need to learn to do.
Don't mean to preach, but I really do just get so darn prissed outta my mind whenever I have to read a story like this. The whole intent of those two wenches was to ruin a random man's life, and they succeeded. Makes my blood boil. Have so many other things I could call them, but I know RUclips wouldn't let me.
May he be in peace
But wanting this person to die is a bit extreme though I understand your motive I am sorry.
May he rest in peace.
Law student here. Just to give some legal context, in virtually all jurisdictions including the UK and US, INTOXICATED CONSENT **COULD** STILL BE VALID CONSENT. The key differentiator isn't whether it was given while the person is intoxicated or not, but whether the person actually still has the CAPACITY to give consent. Just because you had some alcohol does not mean you are completely out of control of your actions and are not responsible for any of consequences of your conduct. It's a matter of degree. If you are SO drunk that it's objectively clear that you are completely unable to given consent then and only then could you claim that the consent you gave was invalid.
If intoxicated consent could never amount to valid consent, then anybody who touches alcohol prior to any sexual conduct could potentially accuse the other of sexual assault/rape, a really stupid scenario. Being drunk isn't a get out of jail free card, just use common sense - eg a drunken driver is still responsible for his actions.
Stop undermining the legitimacy of justified claims of sexual assault/rape.
Literally. Like if having alcohol at all precludes any ability to give consent, I guess that means that no one should ever take their date out for drinks, and if they do they can't touch her even if they're vibing, otherwise they just committed SA
@@Paulie_Geelietrue that
Here here!
I agree with this, but how would anyone prove how drunk they were in court?
Afaik, alcohol blocks memory receptors which cause people to have memory loss when they're drunk, but seeing Caiti literally remember every detail of what happened that night, makes me think she wasn't THAT drunk and still had the capacity to give consent.
She deletes her tweet? That's IT?? Then got away scotts free? Man...
Because she was crying🙉she must be right🐵, she is such a poor girl🙈!? Even if she was wrong🐵, she didn’t know what was happening🐵,she did nothing wrong🙉such a poor girl🙈.
Why the monkey emoji@@user-jk9mp7ug3x
Its like how Justin Trudeau says things and then later on says he did not say that even though it was public. Gas lighting at its finest.
This should genuinely get people fined/arrested
because it was a woman. Woman has privileges in this world.
This is the kind of girl who’d show a fake ID to a guy wanting to verify her age and then blame him for not discerning that it was fake.
she kinda did lol she had a 21+ wristband on from a friend so they didnt know she was under the drinking age
She's the kind of girl that ruins men's lives...
Rudi Rose with all the rappers and NBA players.
Exactly what she did
@@Misdrex Her friends are really shitty people. Used her discomfort as a reason to lash out at Dream and his friends. Imagine being manipulated and used a pawn just so your mates can sling some cheap shots at other content creators because they're envious. Also, imagine doing something illegal and getting your underage friend a 21+ wristband so you can get her drunk. I actually feel bad for Caiti. Ofc she's an adult in this situation and could make her own decisions, but I think it's clear she was pressured by her friends to direct the narrative into a more serious allegation.
The fact that people haven't learned the idea of "innocent until proven guilty" is baffling. You think after the Salem Witch Trials, people nowadays would know, but apparently, this generation is too blindsided to pay attention in school.
Honestly, I do not care if one is an influencer or not, George has all the grounds to sue for defamation. Caiti also is underage drinking, so any allegations she makes would get thrown out because she's illegally drinking.
Her being drunk also removes any concrete evidence she has. Nobody can accurately recount details to the dot, ESPECIALLY if you're drunk.
Unfortunately people these days don’t even care about innocent until proven guilty because guilty until proven innocent is trending. Same thing happened with Kwite and Rex Orange County. These same accusers who believe one side first don’t even bother to check on the case or see its updates afterwards but just go off of other’s opinions and say “aren’t you a r//apist? Didn’t you sexually assault someone?” They throw around every word in the book at someone even if it isn’t true just so it can “justify” their hate and jump on the trend.
Even more ironic when they are on the internet. You know where a lot of information is stored
School doesn't help much with that
@@michaelzheng2217 Yeah and the classic double standard. "We were BOTH drinking and I gave literally zero indications that I was uncomfortable but George as a MAN is guilty of sexual assault for thinking me rejoining him for a cuddle on the couch meant I was into him."
completely unrelated but George's friend walking through a drive thru drunk to order tacos is such a mood
he still remembers it and he knew he had that taco😼
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ikr your real for posting this comment
She was "Brave" enough to make allegations, but not get the police involved? I feel this is a major slap in the face to actual SA victims.
Maybe because she knew she had no solid evidence. Just speculations.
you say this as if SA cases ever get the assulter jailed. they are very complicated because unless you have video evidence of it happening it becomes hearseys. search up victims who went to police and see how far it went without video footage.
I know people in real life who went through these processes and 100% the accussed never went to jail. only way for a kind of justice is they take online and let the whole world know and they also risk being sued for defomation.
I kinda agree but you gotta understand, most of the time the police actually does fuck all.
@@Dice-Z um no?
@@Dice-Zthe same thing happens to Kai center and he got the cops involved and was willing to give it all up to the girl just for her to come out and say she lied
Sexual assault is so common, yet people like this destroy the belief in real cases.
Exactly it's the crying wolf scenario
It's sad how people like this makes it look less believable. What an insult to the actual victims.
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Ong. Basically making cases to be less believeable for cash grab type shi. I feel bad for anyone who experience such a SA with noone believing it and nothing to back it up
Such a sad reality we live in that people are this desperate for attention/payday
Its crazy how even Georges own friends are so easily media driven that, without the full details, even they turn against him.
Honestly, that's the bit I feel most sorry for George, his friends turned on him even when, at that point, it was pretty clear a lot was off from her side
not just his friends, Dream was the WITNESS of the situation!! He threw his friend who he knew was innocent right under the bus.
He self destructed so they had no choice due to their livelihood. by apologising and accepting responsibility, they had to do damage control to save their own careers.
@@01superchunk66i think George wanted to save his friends career by asking them to be neutral but lean with Caiti and he wanted to deal this by himself
So she lies about her age and gets mad because George didn’t know she lied about her age… whoa
People making up lies like these are directly a fucking insult to real SA victims. Honestly just baffling to me that you would do that.
They are not only an insult, they are also a problem, because their lies make it harder for real victims to find people who believe them.
problem is, they dont care. its all about what they can gain from it.
@@Fridge6 Reason why I say to make shit like this illegal especially when good men in the past have died because of false claims.
i can see why all those boomers in congress wanted to pass legislation to control the internet now.
@@nepge8967False claimers deserve the same punishment the victim could have gotten in terms of jail sentence and punishment
She deleted her posts once receiving heat, while George took the heat like a man. What a coward this Caiti is 😭☠️
Frr
Exactly people like that are p*ssys
No wonder the world is sad depressed world with this belive woman society and guilty before proven innocent society.
@@Jout8-re1ij not all women. just THOSE women and caiti herself.
@@sayakamaizono5830
What you mean with caiti? Mens lack of giving attention or validation or treating women nicely could have something to do also with selfish lier women sending innocent men to prison.
i never believed Caiti. her crying was so fake and the fact people believed it, is so insulting to ACTUAL victims. and she was wearing a 21+ wristband, lying to *everyone* . what a vile being.
My thoughts exactly
I still fail to comprehend why false accusers don't get punished as severely as actual offenders.
Because, even if proven innocent, the falsely accused will forever be branded as a predator by the court of public opinion.
Yes and I feel like it should be faster legally for defamation
this is basically what "countersuing" with defamation is supposed to be, but it really needs to be fixed (like a lot of things about most legal systems)
Yeah, honestly, there needs to be a law against false accusations of sexual misconduct like this. It's ruining lives, and needs a very harsh punishment. It should be a felony at least.
It’s a lose lose A lot of the times it’s not worth it for these creators to counter sue against a nobody making false claims they won’t get anything from the accuser the reason they are making claims is for money, sadly the only things it’s gonna do is cost a fuck load of money to just clear your name when like OP said your names still gonna be tainted in public opinion it’s not gonna make up for lost revenue and a 18 year old doesn’t have assets
Everyone who genuinely believes “giving non-verbal consent doesn’t make it ok” have clearly never had a truly romantic moment in their lives
Yup. I wonder how many dates actually end with "can i kiss you", or does one party just take the initiative?
exactly😭😭especially with like kissing… “can i kiss you” is kinda awkward to say and especially when you’re nervous. but i think it depends on the people too. i wouldn’t think it’s bad to say “can i kiss you” or anything. just kind of awkward especially in the moment.
You say that but some people are actually traumatized n need for people to ask consent. Its not about romance its about being comfortable regardless of whats awkward for u.I grew up around people who were assaulted n just were shook in general scared to say no to anyone while being fully uncomfortable. everybodys different not particularly talking bout this situation w that example because idk who lying but for anyone, ppl go through things n verbal consent is not really a issue. I understand where u coming from but yk
@@7_ana If they are so fragile they should stay away from partying with strangers in strange places and focus on therapy and getting better. bs.
@@painless4785 You're acting dense just to show u don't have empathy for people and its boring. People have their own paces n not everyone is jumping into therapy sessions or even admitting they're a victim off bat. You have your opinion n that's fine but acting like that is unnecessary dude.
it’s sickening at the fact that she not only LIED but also told her viewers that going to police if you get assaulted is stupid. Her audience may have literal victims of SA and they’re being told that “you can’t do anything so just don’t do anything”
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For real, like she and many other people who have lied about being sa'd have made it extremly dificult for actualy sa survivors to come forward or to even contact the police, i'm sadly one of those victems.
@@Wassupmehi’m truly so sorry you have to go though this shit, may i please help you in any way? idk find some hotlines or organisations in yr country?(not forcing)
Plus she's reinforcing that woman make up sa allegations. For what too? She wanted some attention? She wanted pity? She should receive the same punishment he would've got from a sa conviction.
Why go to police when you can livestream it and watch that subscriber count go up
George is really a victim here. So glad a lot of people are seeing it.
It's actually really bittersweet for me - only because I wish everyone would've supported George when the allegations came out from Caiti, but it was EXTREMELY depressing and disappointing seeing everybody on twitter just hating on him even when he didn't give his side yet. Super annoying. And now that everybody had time to think, of course everybody is supporting George because he's obviously in the right. Honestly those that supported Caiti the second Caiti accused George should be investigated for brain damage
Is no one noticing how Dream and Snap just threw George under the bus without hesitation 💀
That's what I'm saying
george prolly told them to, to save face and career
His boys left him to hang without a second thought, that shits fucked
It's a career thing. their lively hood depends entirely on how they are perceived from the public.
@@floydpulley3509, that's such a shit take. you're basically saying that sacrificing your friend and his reputation in exchange for a better career, when you already have millions, makes more sense than defending him? I genuinely hope that's not how you treat your friends, no matter what George does now, he's always going to be perceived as a predator by quite a few people and that's partly his friends' fault.
Insane how it takes one awful person making up a lie without evidence can completely ruin a person's life.
Yeah my PE teacher was accused of being abusive to his wife everybody believed her he ended up doing drugs and later killed himself and then it came out that the wife was lying
@@littlealice4094 WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU JUST SAY THAT LIKE 😭😭😭😭😭
@@littlealice4094imagine just believing some random bitch over your gym teacher with no evidence or marks
@@pugbot9kits somewhat relative to the video and comment.
@@littlealice4094 I feel sorry for that teacher...
The fact that Caiti got off Scot free is what makes me disappointed in the world we live in….
What do you mean ? Bro just admitted everything
@@sabrinakingsley798 What I think they mean is that this is a bittersweet ending for George as a whole.
George now has a permanent stain on himself and his brand that will never really fade, all the networking bridges have been either damaged or burnt to cinders.
He also may develop mental health issues down the line due to the intensity of the backlash.
Caiti on the other hand, has gained thousands of followers who at least hate the dream team more than her and has functionally escaped the brunt of the backlash she PURPOSELY started.
There is no winner on the internet, there is no god in this virtual world.
Will she get her judgment, will George recover? we'll never know for now all we can do is wait and see.
Well nothing was going to happen to her anyway she was always going to get support from Twitter and her fans no matter what ether said really hell she instantly got clout and more Money for this any way so essentially she profit off of a false accusation
@@sabrinakingsley798 TO WHAT CUDDLING WITH AN ADULT AND TOUCHING HER WAIST?
Yep and people still cope about being a woman is "harder" than being a man. Men have everything to lose., and women lose nothing from faking allegations, its crazy.
The main takeaway for me is how quick Sapnap and Dream appealed to the victim side instead of sticking with their own stories. Of course, it would be worse if they took George’s side if he actually did something, but he didn’t, and those two should be more than sure of that. I don’t understand how these friends would respond in such a way. There should be the option of standing by their friend (if they believe he did not do such a thing) and also not condemning the individual claiming to be hurt. They did not have to go bite George in the back like that.
I am confused.
I know - it actually makes me mad that more people aren't talking about Sapnap just completely throwing George under the bus. I mean, he literally said Caiti was right and George was in the wrong. I called him out on Twitter so many times and it was so annoying not seeing more people call Sapnap for that. So annoying. Like literally SOOOO annoying
George's actions genuinely showed that he is a good guy. Not only he accepted his mistake but also apologised for what he allegedly did but still got the backlash because of what ? For being a good guy. Really people these days believe a skank who changes their perspective but not a guy who apologies.
_In other words, another false claim of sexual assault ruining a man's life, that should be enough to land the woman in prison._
should get same sentence as an assaulter
@@differ812 yeah, she faked it and she should get the same sentence as if he did do it
anyone who makes fake sexual assault claims should get the same sentence
Ok comment absorbed. Completely different subject though, how the hell did you get italic text on your comment??
@@gonefishing476 you didnt ask me, but, you can do it with _ on each side! like _ this _ but without the spaces. _wuhaha_
As a male victim of sexual assault. It’s stories like these that REALLY piss me off. I got laughed out of the sheriffs office when I tried to report it. yet someone on twitch can lie about it and the internet instantly believes them. What a sad and disgusting time to live in
Edit: I’m overwhelmed by the love you all have shown me. Thank you random RUclips commenters for validating my trauma because not a lot of people do
I’m sorry sir. You don’t deserve that. Hope you can find people who will take your story seriously.
it's truly disgusting,also it's not much but remember we here for u man
And then people say, "Back then was better." Just look what the "back then" people was like
I was born a girl, and I was unfortunately assaulted by another girl many years ago. Some people don’t believe me or make gross comments about my story questioning how it happened simply because we’re both bodily female.
Male victim as well, what I hate most is when women act like men never go through these issues and our opinions are based off of misogyny, like no as a victim who also knows other male and female victims Caits story wouldn’t be THAT inconsistent
As someone who has been taken advantage of, and is a victim of SA, I am tired of people getting away with things like this. People need to understand that allegations like this can truly ruin someone’s life and the internet needs to do their research. To all the victims out there, let’s not let horrible people like this get under our skin. They have no story to tell, and should be ashamed.
even if youre "freshly 18", youre an adult, so act like one
thank you for listening to my ted talk
*claps*
The craziest part isn't the fact she lied about being 21, or created fake text messages as evidence, or lied about literally nearly everything in her 3 attempts to claim him as a SA. It's the fact that she claims to have been extremely drunk yet somehow remembers the entire night while George who doesn't remember the night at all due to being drunk is apparently not drunk?
thats what i was thinking the entire video, that surely george mustve been drunk too. so the entire scandal boils down to - two drunk people cuddle for an hour, they texted for a week and then one day the girl remembers that she never gave verbal consent. a 19 year old lies about age to go get drunk with famous adults, comes home safe and unharmed, and this makes a 100k people unsub?! mad
Also her “freshly 18” card even though she said “I meant freshly out of high school and 18” like GIRL YOU SAID FRESHLY 18 TWICE
Also guess what if both parties are drunk neither can concent so either both parties were SA'd or neither were
Wait til Caiti and Caiti supporters find out non verbal consent
@@clintshidwood4511 couldn't agree more
Twitter is the worst place to defend yourself, never make important responses on twitter.
I will never take twitter users seriously, they’re too presumptuous and insane.
Who cares+ I'm way better than Georgeeeeee
I constantly refer to the Family Guy episode where Brian defends himself through twitter and it was a trash fire.
@@ville__Dude thinks he’s UTTP 💀
But what if I have a ukulele and a song to sing?
she was reading from her phone... how anyone would believe that bruh💀
that false accuser destroyed gorges career for absolute no reason , I hate her for that
To the people who still support this "woman" shame on you
I agree.
@@hadrasfan9912If you get drunk by your own will it is not SA
@@Cussmem07 but it wasnt by her own will and if it was it was still illegal
@@no_wifi_guy Unless someone holds your head and forces the bottle into your mouth, it is your own will
@@no_wifi_guy 1. She was over 18. Not illegal. She consented. She lied about her age. They were both drunk. She's a liar and a bitch.
The fact her allegation was so dramatically written as if it was literally a wattpad story is what made many real SA victims doubt her from the start. Myself included. No one relays their trauma like it's a novel "hoping my stillness would make me disappear.." we don't say things like that when talking about some of the worst experiences of our lives.
i never caught that. that is deff a strange thing to do. normally you just say "i wanted to disappear" or "i couldn't believe this was happening to me". that's coming from someone who writes stories as a hobby xD
that's what I was thinking too, I've never dealt with anything like this in real life but as soon as she started talking, it immediately felt incredibly artificial. not like it was obvious she was lying but it moreso just confused me as to why she said it like that.
also the level of hostility she reverted to was a bit... 😬😬
lol yeah... she was talking like a story... at least that sounded, very dramatic in wording
Nahh don't bring the Wattpad into this 😭
Yes and no. Yes because it’s not likely they’d speak like this but no because there are some people that just try to get their point across through description of emotions
"In the moment, I was chilling".
She was so comfortable in fact, that she got up after the undershirt touching, to say goodbye to her best friend who wasn't feeling well, and decided that instead of going with her sick friend back to their room, she'd rather stay with George instead, someone she knew was 8 years older than her, whom she had already been cuddling with and had the undershirt touching already happen, and went back to his arms for more the cuddling/touching.
BUT, the next day, when her little friends/new acquaintances started gossiping about how she and George were cuddling and that he had touched her under her shirt, this is what happened:
After being asked how she felt about it by a couple people the next day who used language like "I didn't like how touchy he was being" or "he was really touchy", she decided to save face and not look like 'that kind of girl' aka 'groupie-lite' to these people by making up a story which completely removed her agency.
She did not want to admit to these people that in fact she was perfectly fine with being cuddly with a guy she knew was 8 years her senior who she had only met the day before, and even chose to stay and continue the cuddling/under shirt touching instead of leaving with her friend because she was completely comfortable that night with the situation.
So Caiti changed the truth of her choosing to drink, to the lie that it was that she was made to drink. The truth that she was knowingly being flirty and cuddling with someone 8 years her senior, to the lie that it was George who took advantage of the age gap on purpose. The truth that she was enjoying being in the company of someone famous, to the lie that it was George wielding his fame/power over her. And the truth that she was enjoying her time with him and consenting to the touching/flirting back (which there is nothing morally wrong with that), to the lie that it was that George did it suddenly out of nowhere.
She regretted the gossip and views the other people had about that night of her and George being cuddly/touchy feely (not one person stated that Caiti looked uncomfortable, just that the age gap / touchiness made THEM uncomfortable), and that is what drove her to fabricate the whole no consent story. Which is the other reason why she kept on reiterating about it being 'in front of everyone' and even made the outlandish claim in her third version, that it would have been better if it happened when they were alone. It wasn't because she was uncomfortable that people were watching, it was that those that saw, gossiped about it later, and felt put into a position where she either had to admit she was 'that kind of girl' that they wouldn't approve of (especially with George), or concoct a lie which removes her agency (free will completely). It is literally the modus operandi of every false accuser - they feel a real harm or threat from a third party (ex. friend catches you cheating with a married man, so will think you are a home wrecker), so they make up a story to remove their agency (ex. that actually it was not consensual, but rape).
I'm subbing to George as a counter-attack
George's only mistake was actually worrying about whether he caused harm to someone when he didn't mean to, and she capitalized heavily on him being genuinely a good person.
How is trying to understand consent a mistake?
@@RamzaBeoulves
It's not about understanding consent, it's the fact that he was genuinely seeing himself as a person that did her harm after reading her stories, that was a mistake, because even if you want everyone to feel comfortable, don't gas light yourself into believing everyone over your own feelings on a situation too.
That's just straight-up rotten. Guy does his best to do what he thinks is remedying the situation and like vultures the internet hordes descend upon him for it. Ugh.
Yes, so fucking disgusting. People are so gross
@@MeargleSchmearglethats what you get for being a good person.
What really made things worse for George was his niceness, apologizing to this girl even when she was clearly trying to attack him for clout and people just sided with her because she was a girl
also bc of the people that he hangs around. people be blinded by hate
As disrespectfully as possible, that's pussy behaviour from George and his friends. Why the heck would you apologise for something like that. This is a typical case of a woman doing something with a man consensually, and then afterwards, out of nowhere feeling like it was "sexual assault". And then proceeding to ruin the life of the other for some reason.
Those that have followed George for a long time know how innocent and apologetic he can be. He is a good person who seem to wish no part of contravery's, since they are to dramatic for his kind soul.
@@Rasklo93 reminds me how he would canonically sleep through a lot of the DSMP events cause he didn’t want to be part of the drama
this is why I will never be a youtuber, if it were two decades ago I would have been one, but that's now off the table
He actually handled it really well. What is showed of his stream, he seemed have presented actual evidence in a very calm manner, being respectful and acknowledging his part while also providing his side if the story. I actually think him admitting to under the shirt touching makes him more credible. He didnt try and deny it, just to explain himself; his explanation seemed very valid.
as an SA victim
gurl. IF U WERE A REAL SA VICTIM U WOULD HAVE CALLED THE POLICE CMON???
and lying about such things is like a literal punch in real SA victims faces and even i as a recently (as of 03/29) turned 13 y.o mf know this and find it utterly disgusting.
Try not to accidentally doxx yourself
She's 18 and he was 26? The way she said her story made it sound like she was like, 15...
He should sue for defamation.
yeah, im pretty sure 18 is over the age of consent in the place they were, correct me if im wrong.
She also had a 21+ wristband on.
@@Rainy_8 yah most States have their consent is at the age of like 17 and some go lower also she should be mad at her friends for pressuring her to drink while underage instead of this very obvious false SA shit
@@Rainy_818 is consentual world wide, tf you mean “in the place they were” it’s even younger in other places
@@itzzmadness-_-6712 no in the States its 18 the individual State laws of consent are never followed but the federal age is which again is 18
Honestly George should sue Caitybugz for defamation
George is a pussy because he is "too nice."
minimising the suffering of rape = misogyny
@@HelloOki Nice ragebait
@@HelloOkistfu and make me a sandwich
@@HelloOkiwomp womp
i hate stuff like this. i've been SA'd, and i've also given consent in situations where i later on regretted. but i would NEVER accuse someone of doing something to me that i consented to even if i later on felt like it was a mistake.
This shit happens and then women ask why men are too afraid to talk to them.
It takes a single misunderstanding to ruin a man's life, no matter if the misunderstanding was cleared up after...
Incel
Who hurt u
Not all women
Girl: Lies about what happened.
Audience: Sides with Girl instead of George.
George: Calls her out for lying.
Audience: Still sides with Girl instead of George.
Girl: Admits she was lying, but still plays the victim.
Audience: Still sides with Girl instead of George.
George: Exposes more lies she told.
Audience: Still sides with Girl instead of George.
Society sucks at some points (Like this)
It's crazy how gullible people are in the internet. One accusation happens without evidence and people immediately side with the "victim". Even without waiting for George to respond people already camee to conclusions
This internets new “guilty until proven innocent” is the dumbest thing in the modern world
@@carneasadaaccount2052 problem is, it's "Guilty even if proven innocent," now. George proved his innocence and even apologized for doing nothing wrong. Yet, that's not enough for the internet.
I'm not even a fan of George or the Dream Team, I have barely watched anything from them. But, there's nothing that excuses this behavior and he didn't deserve any of it.
@@Comrade_Alpaca Honestly it might as well be just guilty without innocence with how today is
Yeah okay. I've been sexually assaulted by one of my best Friends's mom. Lying about your experience is extremely shameful and disrespectful to the people like us that had to go through shit like this.
Thats Crazy....
Yo r u ok now?
thats crazy
I'm sorry. :( I hope you're doing better these days. And you're absolutely right.
I think you are lying and just trying to shame an actuall victim of sa cause you wanna protect your favorite youtuber
See? that's how you sound
I'm not a lawyer, but in 99% of cases, what is not forbidden, is allowed.
As a SA victim, i never trusted her testimony. It was a fucking wattpad shaped story.
so basically they were both drunk and messed around and when she was finally sober she regretted it and turned it into an SA allegation. Crazy
Happens far too often unfortunately.
Happens to college athletes a lot and it’s ruined many potential NFL careers specifically too
Personally, what i got from the video is that she intentionally did this to gain cloud over his back...
They weren’t forcing that alcohol down her throat
The fact that she was under the legal age for drinking is even crazier, if she lied about her age she'd definitely lie about this whole thing
He should sue her for defamation.
He can try, but sadly, he probably wouldn't win without the court. System favors women immensely, especially if he get to woman judge. Trust me, I know from experience.
The court system sucks if you're a man.
If you're a woman the sad truth is you could just accuse someone of rape and probably get away were there nowadays.
@Shadowy_2 Yes, that is true is most states of America, but George lives in Florida, a state where the government still does not value women's rights. Therefore, even if George did it, he'd still most likely win if he sued her for defamation. But since he has all the proof of him not SAing her, there's a 99% chance he'd win.
If you want to do more research, look into Mother states vs Father states.
@@Shadowy_2this is just not true
@@7Halos Sure whatever you say.
I've seen it with the Ione eyes. Almost experienced it. Believe what you like.But I can say with a certainty This does exist.
@@Shadowy_2maybe in your imagination it does. men get away with actual sa so fucking often because the court system hates women, especially non-white women
This situation makes me so angry. The fact that people can still have their careers destroyed by false accusations and receive no repercussions or satisfaction from the consequences given to the accusers sickens me. There should be more Justice in these situations
Nah there will never be justice for man
Why are people still allowing random accusers to destroy celebrity reputations with unproven accusations?
George was cool, calm, and collected. His arguments and tones never changed.
Caiti went from crying to screaming, her story was never the same.
I genuinely hope that George can rebuild. He deserves none of what he received and if you think he does you are no better than Caiti
Let me say that I’m not defending Caiti or even talking about her at all- but you should realize that an actual sa victim is going to be upset, and being upset about something like that is completely reasonable, and getting visibly upset or crying wouldn’t be out of the ordinary…
Please read my comment again when I said I’m not talking about changing stories or Caiti at all you fucking goobers lmao
@@TR-oc7hh
Changing your story whenever new information that contradicts your original account isn’t very typical of a victim, neither is reading off of a motherfucking script to recount the event. Wouldn’t your memory be pretty clear?
@@Lolpy. LMFAO. right, these bitches are fucking wild with defaming male content creators like shit. I'll stick with my faithful lover that I have now and if and when I get big I won't jump around in drinking parties and whatnot.
@@Lolpy.That's true, that's not what they have an issue of. It's specifically that the screaming and crying should be normal for this kind of incident. Her changing her story is completely unacceptable.
@@Lolpy. did you miss the part in their reply that they weren't defending Caiti?
"freshly 18" will never not make me laugh, im sorry but the fact she describes herself like that.. gold. Freshly 18 sounds like a porn site.
lmao
Freshly 18 when she's almost closer to 19 than to 18 💀
ahahaha true XD
she is angry because of what happened to her.
@@Gogetaa was she closer to 19 when it happened? Cuz that’s what she’s saying
She couldn’t just say no? Who just sits still playing on phone while someone is sticking hands under your clothes
They were both freaking drunk. It was a long time ago.
George was literally being the most honest guy in any online sort of debate like this ever, and they still just gave him an L
im so sick of this "cancel culture" that we're all living in
It's seriously been around for so long. People really just don't like hearing and siding the truth
Think it's just better to just avoid social media altogether to get away from all the BS.
real jobs are the way
then avoid social media, avoid youtube
Fr
The worst part is, George didn't even do anything wrong. They were both drunk, and there were hints to continue whatever cuddling they were doing. Talk about playing the victim 💀
I found it funny how they are treating it like she was under 18 as well. Freshly 18 is still 18.
@@vacdek She wasnt even freshly 18*. She was almost 19 and later she said "i misspoke i meant that i was freshly off the highschool" so even more* bullshit xDD
@@piskor3978 I also love how everyone just ignored the fact that she already went partying and drank alcohol before she turned even close to 18. But suddenly, THEY *MADE* her drink, like the girl was suddenly the most puritan god-fearing person ever till that night and just drank out of fear.
She is already an adult, and she should be treated as such. Including prison time/monetary recompensation for the damage to HIS image.
@@vacdek The "Freshly 18 part" could have been important if there was a huge age gap, and especially if the adult knew them before. In that case, there could be grooming accusations.
But yeah, seeing how both are in what I call the "College area", it's not that important.
@@jonatanrobledo9812 she was wearing a 21+ wristband too she got from a friend so they didnt even know she was under the drinking age
I love how these social media keyboard warriors making SA claims don't actually make a police report. I can imagine it is because it requires ACTUAL proof instead of hearsay.
Dream, Technoblade, Philza, George, Wilbur, and our favorite smp legends are all falling one by one... Next victis are Tommy, Tubbo, Philza, Jschlatt and so much more 💔
Being a minecraft youtuber is basically a curse at this point
It is both a curse and a blessing. You can get a shit ton of money (if you were a MC RUclipsr when the agme was in its prime) but also you will be bound to have a grooming minors allegations or a texting minors scandal. You get money but also get fucked by an allegation
@@shadoweye306 I think the only safe ones are the ones who just do redstone and stay the hell away from anything but Hermitcraft, at this point. There's something in the red glowy electricity dust that scares off hormones, I swear.
@@shadoweye306 If they didnt want to be involved in allegations, they shouldn't have chose to be a youtuber. Those jobs are the most unstable sources of income and you have to be an idiot to be a youtuber since that means you have to throw yourself into internet drama. They made their bed, they can sleep in it.
@@Deodank I agree. At this point, being a RUclips superstar requires you to get involved in some internet drama within some communities, serious or stupid, no matter if you wanted to stay away from it.
DanTDM, Vikkstar123, Stampy all examples of drama free minecraft RUclipsrs
The fact she treats belly tickles as "sexual assault" is an insult to all real SA victims
@ArianneKiryloBOT
Yeah, she was spewing some bullshit
The fact that she had to read her statement instead of recounting it like a normal person is a red flag. The whole thing is BS "believe ALL women". This george fella is also an idiot for caving in and apologizing when he supposedly knew he didn't do anything wrong.
is it normal for someone to touch you like that?
yea doing that while someone is drunk is absolutely sexual assault
twitter proving that it's the shittiest platform
She gives the real SA victims a bad reputation.
Solution to a problem: stop letting twitter be the lawyer in serious cases
it’s not that simple twitter isn’t really changing the law but it is ruining his reputation and because they are famous and the girl decided to do this publicly if George were to not respond publicly it would be like admitting to it which then again his whole career is being a famous person and you can’t have that if your reputation is ruined
@@JoeVahns that’s a better way to put it that’s exactly what I meant it ruins peoples careers that they relied on which mega sucks for the people that didn’t deserve anything
@@copeul7214RUclips Peoples:
There’s the matter of public opinion man nun u can do.
@@perseusbolt3591 I’m just sick of it suck’s can’t do non about it
This happened to me in highschool. A girl and her friends didn't like me... so she got close/flirted with me, I felt there was some physical consent, and barely anything happened. But the next day, she lied to the principal and the police saying that I r*ed her, and I got expelled and was facing sexual assault charges at 14. The ridiculous situation only ended because the *actual* incident was caught on the cameras in the school. Unfortunately, the damage was done, my friends abandoned me, and I had to move schools.
Often times, men don’t win in cases like this, especially when it comes to the aftermath of being accused, like losing friends, environments, scholarships or sponsorships, sometimes even jobs, no matter if it's the truth, or if it's just completely made-up. Real sexual assault victims get taken less seriously when things like this happen, simply because someone wants to make someone else's life harder. What a pathetic world we live in.
Edit: “Barely anything happened” was a way for me to keep my personal life a little more personal, not “downplay” what happened. If you’re really that concerned, read the subcomments and it should answer your questions, thank you.
ask for a dna test
@Vandelorian Enough happened for it to be considered rape? Hell, even when consent was given, girls have still falsely claimed SA.
@@Vandelorian stop baiting loser
@@VandelorianPreach.
@@Vandelorian are you like tryna rage bait
This is not the way I thought this episode would go. This is so insane.
Just would like to say I love your videos Internet Anarchist, and your my go to my a great sum up on any online converses! Your editing is great and video quality is outstanding and you deserve at least 5 million subs! Keep doing great!
I wonder if Caiti's script occasionally said "pause to cry"
It probably did
Script?
Edit: This was sarcasm but I see how it was literally impossible to tell.
@@tlkfanrwbyfan8716Did you not realize she talked like she was reading a wattpad novel about SA on her phone for most of the alleged crimes.
@@tlkfanrwbyfan8716 she read off her phone like the entire time lmfao. lets not talk about how donations were enabled in the top left 💀💀
There was probably a pop up of different dialogues like in video games to progress through the bad ending.
Women like this exist. I met the mother of my son at a party while intoxicated and on drugs. It was a 18 year old and up party. I met her, hit it up and talked. We had sex. It was only later that she admitted she was only 16 at the time. For all y’all saying “you should’ve known.” Uh no. When you’re drunk and horny, when you ask how old they are and they respond “18,” not my fault nor is it SA.
Georges final statement was incredible
Moral of the story : when you're being accused of something you know you didn't do, have some balls, stand your ground and make sure your friends are reliable and trustworthy
and never ever ever say sorry. the first to say sorry is the one who looses.
lawyer up
dream and that second person gladly threw him under the bus to avoid rage from twitter/tiktok "folks" for twitter/twitter "folks" care not about facts
yea hes got some shit friends tbh but we knew that already…
better yet lawsuit for defamation of character
I hate how a respectful apology is seen as admission of guilt. I will never apologize again if I am not wrong.
Ikr. It's a terrible morale to take away from this, and yet... admitting anything at all has them pouncing on it like lions on prey. Humanity is going in an awful direction.
True, like the if criminal gets to play the victim, the actual victim should play it more.
RETWEET
Yeah.he apologised for unintentionally hurting her but she made it seem like he admitted to assault
I've recognized this and stopped apologizing even when I am in the wrong. People take an apology as justification and honestly just become more spiteful and resentful when they get one. generally it seems like the rage of never getting an apology is less than the self justified rage of having gotten one.
sorry but non verbal consent is how nearly all hookups in bars and how nearly all netflix and chills go from netflixing to chillin'
Not flippin belle delphine being in the twitter room thingy while dream was talking at 19:58
This is why you should wait until both parties explain their side of the story before you choose whose side you're on. I remember when Slazo was falsely accused by his ex gf for SA and other terrible things. Many people and RUclipsrs said that he was guilty immediately before he made his response. It was later proven to be roleplay and both consented to it. She never apologized and neither did most of RUclipsrs who accused him.
Same thing happened to Kwite too.
Exactly this. Twitter always has these people come out of the wood works with accusations and instant confidence on the statements of one person. Then it tyrns out to be bs, aaaand they privated their account for the next week and never respond or take accountability like an adult. And for a youtuber to do that, is a whole nother level of iresponsible.
Also Alex Kister (creator of Mandela Catalogue)! He was accused of grooming and being a predator to his fans by an ex of his, but he managed to prove that he hasn’t made sexual advances at anyone but his actual girlfriend, AND that the two people he had dated before were OLDER than him (Alex was 19 and Ven was 20/21, DB was 21/22).
The worst thing he did was vent emotionally to a confirmed minor, which he had already apologised for and stopped doing long ago, but his ex, Ven, still accused him of heinous shit explicitly to ruin his career (something she actually admitted to) when she KNEW he had suicidal ideations. Absolutely sad
ANARCHIST STEALS MY VIDEOS FOR MOOLAH AND HAS MADE MILLIONS OFF MY HARD WORK
A bit ironic mentioning Kwite when he was in the group of Slazo dogpilers. But ofc in his own defence video he brought up Slazo and apologized for doing that, something I haven't seen anyone else in that group properly or thoroughly do, which I guess they all think they don't have to since Slazo already semi-forgave all of them
I will never understand people who fake allegations. Like I genuinely do not understand the psychology behind it.
this is so sad. the way his friends completely abandoned him as well to save their own face even though george stayed with dream throughout his whole drama
The world is definitely unfair
they didn't
The definition of sadness
fake friends, I would never talk to them again. Turning on him just to save themselves, smh can u believe that?!
@@taniac.6774 omfg they didn't turn on him stop feeding into misinfo. dream literally received half if not most(which is strange)of the hate and harassment, he edited georges response&helped gathering evidence&personally dealt with bs some ppl tried to start after that. sapnap in his own response straight up said he loves his friend and mentions him on every other stream. none of them ever admitted it was SA
I’m starting to believe there is no correct way to make an apology video from my perspective he did nothing wrong, didn’t know she was 18, she hid her feelings of “discomfort” and continued to remain friendly after. He apologized for how she felt and still almost got cancelled
One thing George blundered was making a sincere apology as on the internet, it usually stirs more unwanted hate and rather go more logical than emotional trying to clear things up more.
Wait so the summary is: He seen her with a legal drinking age wristband prior to the incident, and in the hotel they cuddled for 1 hour and she showed 0 signs of discomfort or any signs that would make him feel he doesn't have consent and after he put his hand around her waist she accuses him for sexual assault ?
welcome to the world. where women take advantage of men (child support, divorce men and take everything the men worked for, and accuse them of s assault for no reason)
You missed the part where she's now saying he felt up her tit. but yeah.
and she remembers everything that happened, while she was drunk. meaning at any point she could've said no to anything that happened. but she didnt....
@halowiz1000 my problem with some people in this is the fact that some people were saying "you can't give consent if you're drunk" you absolutely can, are you going to be in the complete right mind ? No. Ngl every time I've been drunk I've been able to control what I think, until I got blackout drunk. Then I couldn't control myself or my actions.
@@lvkillawolfvl1921 You can't give *_competent_* consent because being drunk does dull the critical-thinking side of things, but if you don't want to do something you ain't gonna.
Alcohol lifts your normal inhibitions, allowing you to do things that non-drunk you might be hesitant to do, but it doesn't completely wipe your sense of self.
However that is why you "can't" give consent.
You're not thinking clearly. Things that seem like a good idea while drunk may be something you'd refuse while sober.
Sober you is the one controls consent, because they're the one that has to live with it. If you're not bothered by your drunk decisions, cool. Not everyone is.
The fact that his friends caved under pressure from people on the internet and decided to even speak on the matter and speak poorly about him is something I personally could never forgive.
Honestly its so messed up people that cave because of others aren't really friends and if I ever do that I would hope for someone to call me out
DUDE I FEEL SO BAD FOR BRO 😭😭😭😭😭 I ALR KNOW HOW THIS STORY ENDS IM ABT TO BE IN TEARS
Probably would have done the same if it was one of his friends under fire, those youtube friend circles are snake pits
@@kuzakiv3095 Broski you just admitted you're also a snake lmao, what in the hypocrisy
Bro I knew about this faker accusing George and lying but I didn't realise that both Dream and Sapnap just immediatly turned on George without listening to his side first. Both of them talking shit about George only made the Internet believe George was wrong even tho you can clearly tell from Caiti's tweet that she was lying. I feel so bad for him man.
It's sad how easy it is to defame people nowadays. 0 evidence, 100% accusations will lead to the demise of someone's career... even if they themselves prove to be innocent.
HOW can she be so drunk (as mentioned by her several times) and still have a such a detailed account of that night while every other person in that room has blurry and pieces of information of the said night.
Yeah exactly there is no way she remembered all that while being drunk, I wonder how the guy in the video or others involved didn't point this out.
Crazy how Caiti can lie about this, destroy his reputation and then just vanish with no consequences
Exactly.
Exactly.
just checked and shes alive and well on twitch with over 200k followers lol
@@parallaxninja456 I don't think she's been active on that for a while though
happens all the time. Happened with Dream and Kwite as well. It needs to be illegal.
1. Caiti in her last statement mentioned that she did not watch George's apology video, she also stated that from the beginning she was never interested in accepting his apology. This shows that her intention from the start was to defame him and portray him as a bad person, she not only sought influencia, but also wanted to end george career possibly out of spite or revenge beacause months later, he ghosted her via dms
2. Sapnap and Dream's decisions influenced public perception, and George's reputation, in a delicate situation like an SA accusation they should have maintained objectivity and waited for all the information to be presented before taking a firm stance, but they were selfish and only cared about looking good and saving own careerss. Even sapnap recently banned anyone who mentioned georges name in his stream chat, but its obvious that eventually he will mention george again, only because it suits him, they are the worst friends
you're so true
Normally when it comes to good friends they know information that others don’t. As much as I would assume you would with your friends. If the accusations were going around do you think they wouldn’t have talked about it first?
@@davvothepotatoe6985 I guess they weren't as good of friends as they thought
Literally was thinking the same thing about George’s friends. The fact that they claimed to have a super strong friendship meanwhile they sided with someone defaming him despite the fact that Dream was present and saw no such accusations. George needs new friends atp
1. Not wanting to give accept your rapist’s apology is totally fine.
However, this isn’t that case. She’s a liar. In the other cases I afore-mentioned, don’t forget about the real victims.
Because she was embarrassed what happened that night she decides to call it SA? Bruh...
let me be honest, I don't know the truth of what happened, nor do I know/watch GeorgeNotFound, and I'm only 2:02 into the video. big disclaimer is that I'm not defending George in any way since I'm nobody and not even invested in the story.
but the reason of my comment is that, my years and years of experience tells me that Caitibugzz is VISIBLY a manipulative liar. I'm not going to elaborate on any reasons and it's okay if any reader wishes to spit harsh words to me. All i'm saying is, if you see it, you see it.
it's also okay to dismiss me by saying I dare to accuse without providing evidence(s). people with more than 2 braincells can see why in just the first 2 minutes of this video.
Prime example of why you should _always_ plead your innocence until something proves you're guilty, especially when you know there's nothing that does so.
Never say apologize for something you didn’t do
@@thecobra45 Really, the full advice is
-Don't talk about it until you have to
-Don't admit or take guilt for something before there is proof of it
-Don't get hung up on it regardless
I mean the case is done and dusted he is guilty for the majority of the audience he should have simply not admit it like her story was clearly falling apart and his friends were like we have to look for our own public image@@APatriotRevival
@@shivanshbisht9439 Yes, that is precisely my point. I'm saying if someone else finds themselves in such a situation, don't admit fault. Best thing to do is get a lawyer if you think they might actually have something. Even if they don't, you could then sue them defamation.
@@APatriotRevival yeah I definitely agree with you but I just think that the dream smp was kinda cursed you know last year karl, then dream himself and now George
One aspect that's not focused on enough is SHE PRETENDED TO BE OVER 21. If you pretend to be of xyz age, be prepared for actions appropriate for xyz age.
If you get into a bar with a fake ID, you can't cry wolf when you're served alcohol.
Xyz?
@@theshadowking3198xyz means the age that you pretend you are.
@@theshadowking3198 what are you asking
@@theshadowking3198 you cannot be serious.
@@arjaysg what I have no clue what it is why y’all getting pressed
The fact that some people can hear a story, backed by 0 evidence and believe it, and take action against the accused. even after the accused and a witness saying that what the so-called "victim" said was untrue is the worst thing about the modern day, no skepticism.
This defamation thing is becoming more and more common now, it irks me that she just got away with it like nothing happened, she literally destroyed his whole career.
Holy God
My friend self deleted himself after she accused him of SA. His life started to go downhill after that. His scholarship got taken away and his football coach never let him play any match after that. His family were poor and he doesn't want to burden them. So he dropout from the college. After 2 years he self deleted himself because his mom died and his dreams as a pro football player being taken away from him. Rest in Peace brother.
Was it the same person who accused George?
@@G4072m yeah probably. She looks the same.
That's just.. vile. There should be laws regarding false accusations.
@@grumpyseagull There is, however, Governments wont do anything UNTIL it's too late.
i dont even get what makes a person want to accuse someone innocent of that its insane
I feel so bad for George...he's one of the most wholesome minecraft youtubers and definitely didn't deserve having to apologize for an exaggerated misunderstanding
literally the same thing happened with projared.
this is just sad
It's a common story of "clout chasers tricking famous people" she went along with it that night pretending they have a thing/attraction between them only to later on pretend she's the victim while the real victim was the guy just following along believing they had a thing, that girl only planned to "use" him for clout and destroy his life, 18+ you are an adult, you are drunk then don't drink if you can't handle alcohol, when you are drinking you are bound to get drunk, that's how it works, there were 8 people there and none noticed that she was feeling bad about this? What made her not stand up/leave/change position/deny his advances, the manipulative narrative of blowing things out of proportion to make the story seem darker than it really is, using SA as a reason for something that dumb is a middle finger to the real victims.
who cares
@@ville__ the people who do? if you don't care, then just ignore it
@@ville__ on another comment, you seemed to care about the situation🤣
Good job on her part in discrediting future abuse victims by actual offenders on the platform. What he did just sounds like non verbal consent, moving away and then moving back to the same position is a perfect example of non-verbal consent. And then changing the story from holding the waist to moving his hand under her clothing to her chest is further proof that her initial plans of a mob attack didn’t work. I wouldn’t have been surprised if she made it worse later on.
At times this is why people always say don’t apologize for something you didn’t do apologizing in the eyes of twitter lawyers is like pleading guilty in a court room like it’s crazy
George is an idiot for apologizing for something he didn’t do. If you ever find yourself in crap online don’t respond.
I think this whole "Minecraft community" got to his head. All of his closest friends are in it. All of them were shaming him and attacking him, so ofc he's gonna start to believe HES in the wrong. Sad world full of demons who pretend to be angels ugh🤦♂️
@@cookiegames8464 Yeah, I agree with initial comment but when your audience is a bunch of kids who fall for things easily, and one of your biggest hate communities is primarily on twitter. Silence speaks louder than anything else, so the less he spoke the more speculation was brought forward, he thought he had to do something, but what he did, was push the gun barrel further into his mouth. But at least we found out which one was the liar.
@@cookiegames8464Dream and George were actively getting death threats
In the heat of the moment he took way more accountability than needed
It’s pretty hilarious. I’ve never heard of these people before. I just find it hilarious that they got publicly EMBARRASSED
Also I think part of the problem is he didn't clarify exactly what he was apologising for when he should have.
I think he meant his first apology was an "I am sorry I played a part in making you feel uncomfortable" a simple apology for an accidental harm, like one would apologise for bumping into someone in a crowd or for making a well meaning joke or jab that hurt your friends feelings. These moments of accidental harm are ones we are taught to apologise for, and I appreciate the awareness of seeing that just because I and others saw it as harmless didn't mean I didn't cause harm. However many people nowadays don't like to apologise for accidents so when you don't clarify (or even when you do) they assume its an admission.
The second apology I think was more along the lines of "I was not at all aware there was a possible power dynamic issue in potential relationships, sorry you and others might have been caught in this." I think he did clarify this one better but I think people are less aware of the danger of financial and reputational power imbalances in relationships and might not be as aware as he was about the severity of this issue.
Frankly he dealt with is so maturely but lately it feels many people don't realise that a truly empathic person will want to apologise for accidents, for hurt they see even if they do not understand (emotions aren't logical) and to make a promise to be better.
If you’re falsely accused of something like this, don’t combat it online. Do like Angry Joe did and gear up for court. No back and forth.
That’s honestly the only sensible thing people can do. Just get a lawyer. A lot of these people usually back off real quick when real life consequences start stacking up and they have to deal with actual police and court.
That is if you're confident that you're in the right. I mean, if you ain't got nothing to hide, why fear?
@@gothicMCRgirl exactly
they're so stupid not getting law enforcement involved
Fr if a female EVER DARE to accuse me then best believe court fina come
@@corruptedpico637 and the wench is gonna front the bill too, brother
The more i learn from this situation, the more angry i get,
I cannot understand why people can try to explain themselves into these situations, pretending to suffer the aftermaths of it.
Its disturbing, very disturbing.
Being as ive suffered this type of thing and have been forever altered by it, I do not understand how someone can sit there and just... use it as a weapon to get rid of someone you dont like. It feels weird, and upsetting. Its evil.
I hope caiti feels regret and shame for this. And truly, I hope she has learned from this aswell.
No wishes of harm of course, (throwing shade at twitter users tbh) but she should absolutely take an L for this.
The saddest thing is that he was the one who apologized. He should sue her for defamation. He doesn't deserve to be torn down by such a stupid kid anyway.