2013 Corvette C6 Z06 Heads/Cam 1/4 Mile - Bandimere
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- Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024
- Test n Tune at Bandimere Speedway - (10/24/2022)
Did not go as planned and having traction issues
Density Altitude was recorded between 7900ft to 8200ft
Vehicle Info:
2013 C6 Corvette Z06 Cold Start
Haltech Killer Bee MF108 Air Intake
Heads Ported & Polished by Texas Speed
Brian Tooley Racing Spring Kit & Valvetrain Kit
BTR Stage 3 Cam
2" American Racing Headers & Catted XPipe
Mighty Mouse Catch Can
160 Degree Thermostat
Factory NPP Dual Mode Exhaust
Good job, but I have a tip for you. Roll through the water and do a longer burnout. Make sure you see plenty of smoke before you let off. Dont try to do a burnout where the water is sitting, you'll never evaporate all of it. You keep bogging at the start because your tires are still a little wet and the tire slips instead of hooking. Master the burnout and your launch will greatly improve.
I appreciate this, its funny because the drag strip coordinators tell you when to stop to do the burnout. Sadly, never be able to try again because Bandimere is closed now. If i ever get to another track ill keep this in mind!
Hi I saw your video about 6 months ago backing your Z06 out of the garage. I had a silver 13 Z06
with a carbon hood. I sold the car just over 3 years ago and last I know it was for sale at Covette World
in Texas in Dec. 2020. The reason I am asking is I cut the front black lower air dam to allow extra cooling
to the front brakes. Just wonder if that's our old Z06. Thanks
Oh my gosh, no way man! Thank you so much for taking care of this car so well and equipping it the way you did. It literally has been my dream car and so thankful I found it!!
Also, you'll be happy to know it's always garaged and covered, PPF on the front half, and ceramic coated. Its my pride and joy, would love to know more about it for all the time you had it!
@@silverbulletz06 Hi again that's great that your enjoying the car! If you can give me the last 8 of the VIN.
I can verify if it's the car. Thanks
С6 thr best car
Agreed!
sounds like some serious wheel hop. i think with some chassis bracing and maybe suspension work you could be in the 10’s with that amount of power in a very light car
Tire hop comes from the lack of sidewall, it's been my crutch the entire time I've raced it. And the rear suspension isn't an issue, even though it's different from other sports cars, there are plenty of vettes sub 10s with stock suspension. Altitude also doesn't help robbing me all of my power lol
Ran 11.6 at 126.9 with a bone stock 2007 z06 in Montreal back in 2010
Yup it's wild what density altitude does to a vehicle!
Jesus, id think that people who watch dragstrip videos would at least know what density attitude means and does....
Theres always that guy that says "omg so slow, it should run 10s"
And im like: "yeeeah, not at 8000ft it shouldnt" 😂
You're telling me man... It's insane lol also I'm not a professional with perfect track conditions! They obviously have not had the heart break of realizing that what the pamphlet and what they're capable of are two different things lol
No car sounds this good
*S65>LS7*
Damn that DA is a killer.
Yeah it's no joke , it's depressing but just something to get used to
starting to stockpile parts for HCI this summer and will be running an identical setup. I'm curious to know what it makes for power? silver as well! beautiful car you've got there
Thank you!! And it made 595whp on a hot/humid day, so probably could make more if it was better out or I didn't tell the tuner I wanted driveability over peak power
What tires are you using on the rear?
rubber bands.... Jk theyre Pilot Super Sports, 335/25/20
Wheelspin city
that's no joke - rubber bands aren't the best lol
Sad that Track is Closed.
I agree, it's not official so there is a tiny part of me that hopes it was temporary but it's sad to see a historical place shutdown
The Z sounds like it's pretty solid. Should run some really good numbers closer to sea level where it can breathe a bit better. DA is no joke when it comes to robbing NA builds, really need a boosted application up there. Nice runs considering though.
Thank you! A set of wheels/tires and some boost, it'll be a whole different animal. Like you said, DA is no joke to NA lol it hurts the ego a little bit
@@silverbulletz06 Yeah, a built Z should be sitting in the low 10's to high 9's at sea level. Have to get to a lower elevation before that LS7 will really come to life. It'll feel like a whole new car for sure.
@@TheWolfMatt It was heart-breaking to experience the car being built/dyno in southern TX and living there, then moving up to CO, adding a catted xpipe and retuning it, you could just feel the 20-25% loss. BUT that's why it will get a centrifugal supercharger eventually, wake it back up! (Not that its slow by any means, just not as fast as it was).
@@silverbulletz06 (1). Going from NA to centrifugal blower, you will not be happy with how it drives around town.
2). The throttle response is designated. The crispy sounds of pure cam is distorted as well.
3). Torque is robbed below 2,000 RPMs.
4). Any positive displacement blower will do the trick, plus not suck to drive on the street.
5). There’s a reason NOBODY offers a car with a centrifugal blower from the factor. Not a single OEM manufacturer.
6). Ask me how I know how much having a C6Z with a centrifugal blower sucks.
@@jordanmascarenhas7974 this is an incredible comment, can you elaborate on the point (1)? What happens on the street that you saw was a big pain? are you talking the overheating issues?
(2) I get the difference of throttle lag and the cam sound "changes", this doesnt bug me as much
(4) agreed on the street part of a PD - not horribly concerned though, driven a centri C6Z06 and loved it
(5) 1000% get behind this, the LS9 SC was warrantied to 100k for a reason, Toyota TRD SC by Magnuson was warrantied for 150k for a reason
(6) adding power always sucks lol ive been back and forth on spray vs SC
13's? I have a H/C/I long tubes c6 z06 and I run high 10's
Yeah I'm sure you're not running it at 7900-8200 DA , NA cars lose ALL the horsepower at altitude here in Denver
There is a procharged C6Z here on drag radials that runs high 10's, easily a low 9 sec car at sea level
Not with the stock engine. The altitude is high in Bandimere. You loos tons of horsepower in thin air. You'd be Luck to run in the high 12's.
@@ricktaylor3748 Maybe you're right...I didnt know altitude made that big of a difference..I know it robs power but that much?
@@cae8525 yeah it really does, I made over 600whp when it was TX. And the altitude will rob damn near 30% of your HP haha
But as the other guy said, if you can break into the 11's up here you, are moving!
Otherwise 12's is typical depending on your tire
@@silverbulletz06 Wow...that's crazy! You have to get your car down to sea level and let it kick some ass!!!!!
😮
almost sounds like you need to change to better gear ratio. Not sure don't take my word for it
Gearing is okay, it's truly just the altitude and grip, same car would run 10's all day at altitude on better tires
You should be running quite a bit quicker. I ran a 13.053 here in a h/c/i/e C5 Z06 with a bogged launch, and you should have about 100 more HP than I did. I'm not saying that I'm a good driver, but you need the driver mod :D Keep practicing the launch and consider some drag radials like the MT ET Street S/S.
Yeah i ran an 11.80 in SA TX on 100% stock set up, I fully expect its a typical H/C C6Z that would run 10's with a lower DA.
But yeah I know, the launch is killing me, I adjusted 200rpm each run and either bogged or spun. Having a 20" wheel in the back with 335 is like a rubber band, and up-front running 19" 285's, its also just a lot of weight and rolling resistance.
New wheels/tires - I am hoping for 11's next season with the current set up and Id be happy (Fastest right now is a 12.4*)
You could try slipping the clutch. I know it’s bad juju but I could turn 1.69 60’s on NT05R’s at 35psi. A good multidisc clutch should be able to handle it. I liked my ACT twin. My tilton was horrible, and my RPS triple carbon is probably my middle ground because it can handle so much more abuse. I also don’t recommend a tilton master cylinder for a 1000hp clutch. It needs a smaller bore not a bigger one. My pedal is now like a one inch thousand pound leg press.😢
@@TheTmshuman I did, the problem truly is the tires, they're rubber bands on 20" wheels, way to wide, not a good enough contact patch. A clutch will help I agree! But no need for right now, only have 10k miles on the car haha
Yeah I was gonna say. I would beat you by a whole second in my 21’ Challenger scat pack. I do low 12’s and I only have a hell cat ram air intake and my widebody is a 6 speed with all season pirellis
@@mikespano6339 if you check the video I just posted at the track, I went a 12.4* side by side with a hell cat. It's wild what the altitude does to power. Both cars are low 11 second, high 10's with grip and we were running mid 12's
If you could improve your 60 ft time with your start you should be running a high tens with your trap speed
Yeah 100% - plan was to get a drag pack and see what I can do. Wouldn't get 10's because of the altitude but a corrected time in the 10s for sure. But sadly the tracks closing so won't be able to anymore
Dude you need slicks! A 1995 ZR-1 can do that.
believe me i know, also this is at elevation, corrected times are usually 1-1.25 seconds slower. check the description on here (ruclips.net/video/F73u6IeogA0/видео.html) shows the difference between my time at the track and what a corrected time at sea level would be
something seriously wrong........... the stock Z06 runs 12 flat
Please educate yourself on density altitude and how it impacts performance. Then check my other video description where I put the corrected times 👍🏻 (ruclips.net/video/F73u6IeogA0/видео.htmlsi=KaWuQGr_6Xmff3AE)
Nearly 8000ft elevation 🤯
@@05pharmd just above it yeah 😂 and people are wondering why it's not faster lol they couldn't even walk up the stairs at bandimere without losing their breath guaranteed
Elevation was just one of your problems. That car needed a tire bad. It spun all through 1st and bogged in 2nd. I’m assuming you took off the dubs and put a tire on it
@@Jeremy-ky7dv believe me I know haha 1st and 2nd gear is usually spinning unless it's the dead of summer and my tires are hot. And sadly, no I haven't swapped them yet. With the track being closed I have to figure out what direction I want to go now
Something’s incredibly wrong. Bc. My 1990 iroc z. Ran a low -13.4. In a 1/4 mile.
What's incredibly wrong is your understanding of density altitude and how much it impacts a cars performance. 8000ft+ above sea level robs ALL the power (ruclips.net/video/F73u6IeogA0/видео.htmlsi=MqU9huQYzGfa_HmU). This video shows my times and a corrected time in the description for comparison.
Driver mod needed.
How so? What can I improve on? I would love some feedback
@@silverbulletz06
The downtime between shifts was immense. Get your shifts closer together and you’ll cut ALOT off of your et. And launch harder. You bogged pretty hard on the launch. I would imagine your 60’ was over 2.0
@@sailingseahawk2012 shifting understand, have/can shift faster but was there more to work on the launch.... which all (3) launches were different RPM by 200ish rpm... its either bogging or spinning. Either I need to get a different set of tires that aren't rubber bands, or slip the clutch more. which on a stock clutch I am trying to preserve isnt really an option.
Appreciate the feedback
Car and Drive ran 11.6 in a stock C6 Z06.
A prepped track with better tires and tire pressure and a professional driver is way different then a test and tune night with thousands of cars.
No offense intended, but they claim to test on factory tires and "under street, not track, conditions."@@silverbulletz06
Thay car has no-lift shirt ... J.s.
Those are lifted shifts, I don't like using the no lift shift feature, it doesn't work every time
m.ruclips.net/video/HDHMYc7xz74/видео.html
Even at elevation, low 11’s to high 10’s are possible.
The guy re-geared his Z06 for the quarter mile, and has drag radials. His DA is also almost 2k feet less as well. So yes, its possible.... but with my current setup and the DA while i have gone done broadway, its not possible
edit: he also has different pistons as well, which changes the compression ratio. You showed me a Z06 that is far from factory and a typical bolt-on setup. so again, its possible, but this guy changed a lot to get there
It’s been a while since I’ve actually talked with him, so exactly what was done to the car at that time was beyond me.
If you look back to runs where he was trapping 118 similar to those runs you made, 11.9-12.0 is doable with better tires/60ft, not sure if it was re-geared at that point as well. Those runs looked to be at bandimere as well instead of PMI like the one I posted the link to.
Get some radials and see what it’ll do at PMI this year 👍🏽
@@marcusjohnson5839 that's definitely in the books! I hope, even with the DA, to be in the 11's on radials. Id be incredibly happy
Super slow times!
You've obviously never driven at elevation or read my description lol times are WAY different at a density altitude of 8000+
What’s your tire setup ?? Gotta get the same tires for my GS
The C6 GM Cup Wheels, 20x12 in back and 19x10 in front, 285-30-19 and 335-25-20 Michelin pilot super sports
@@silverbulletz06 would 345s work in the rear as well?
@@silverbulletz06 thanks for the tire specs btw! Sweet fucking ride 🔥
@@ChrisBred4s yeah you can run 345's as well, plenty of guys do. Depending on what you're looking for though, wider isn't going to increase grip besides laterally. For straight line grip it's better to run a smaller wheel (18 or 19") in the back and get a 305-325. Allows more contact patch with more friction per square inch. I'll be going to a 17 or 18" rear eventually!
@@ChrisBred4s thanks!! 🤘🏻