When Heinz gave it the beans

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  • Опубликовано: 13 сен 2024
  • Dani Siller and Bill Sunderland ('Escape This Podcast') and William Osman discuss a question about an unusual approach to driving your girlfriend home.
    LATERAL is a weekly podcast about interesting questions and even more interesting answers, hosted by Tom Scott. For business enquiries, contestant appearances or question submissions, visit www.lateralcas...
    GUESTS:
    Dani Siller: ‪@consumethismedia‬, / escthispodcast
    Bill Sunderland: ‪@consumethismedia‬, / escthispodcast
    William Osman: ‪@williamosman‬, / williamosman
    HOST: Tom Scott.
    QUESTION PRODUCER: David Bodycombe.
    EDITED BY: Julie Hassett at The Podcast Studios, Dublin.
    GRAPHICS: Chris Hanel at Support Class. Assistant: Dillon Pentz.
    MUSIC: Karl-Ola Kjellholm ('Private Detective'/'Agrumes', courtesy of epidemicsound.com).
    QUESTION: Bed Tedds.
    FORMAT: Pad 26 Limited/Labyrinth Games Ltd.
    EXECUTIVE PRODUCERS: David Bodycombe and Tom Scott.
    © Pad 26 Limited (www.pad26.com) / Labyrinth Games Ltd. 2023.

Комментарии • 107

  • @MyRegardsToTheDodo
    @MyRegardsToTheDodo Год назад +494

    I just googled him and found a news article about the escape. Heinz Meixner was a 20-year-old electronic engineer from Linz, Austria, who worked in West Berlin and could therefore cross between east and west as often as he wanted, and met (and fell in love with) Margarete Thurau in an East Berlin disco (or Tanzpalast, as they were called there). When the German Democratic Republic didn't allow her to leave after they became engaged, he decided to risk it. In may of 1963 he rented the sports car (an Austin Healy Sprite), removed the windshield, put his fiance on the back seat under a blanket and his mother in law to be in the trunk (that he also lined with a brick wall). Then he drove to the border, without actually arising supsicion, until he came to a checkpoint, where he was supposed to stop, but instead put the pedal to the medal, and drove under the barrier to the western side (his skidmarks on the western side were supposedly more than 25 meters long, so he was indeed very fast). In the west he became somewhat of a star for a short time and the German Democratic Republic immediately changed the layout of their barriers, adding vertical steel braces to them just a day later. He and Margit Thurau married in August of 1963 in West Berlin and some time later moved to Linz, Austria. Sadly it seems that he used up all his luck in that escape, because a few years later he died way too young, when he accidentally dropped an electric razor into a sink filled with water and instinctively tried to grab it, electrocuting himself.

    • @ThreadBomb
      @ThreadBomb Год назад +7

      Did he get his deposit back on the car?

    • @MyRegardsToTheDodo
      @MyRegardsToTheDodo Год назад +55

      @@ThreadBomb I don't see why not. The East German guards were way too surprised to actually fire at him and with the reattached windshield there should have been no permanent damage to the car.

    • @peachierose3356
      @peachierose3356 Год назад +1

      wow :0

    • @alveolate
      @alveolate Год назад +55

      heinz meixner: outsmarted the soviets, but lost to shaving.

    • @markusklyver6277
      @markusklyver6277 Год назад +2

      based

  • @osmia
    @osmia Год назад +252

    I love being able to actually watch the people's thinking show up on their faces in all these clips!

    • @CheyenneRose
      @CheyenneRose Год назад +7

      Yes!! I love the videos because my Mom lip reads to make up for the loss of most of her hearing and I've picked it up a lot- seeing facial expressions is such a huge part of getting the full picture.

  • @patrickhanft
    @patrickhanft Год назад +120

    According to a website, another guy named Norbert Konrad heard about this trick, also rented a sports car two months later, drove to East Berlin and escaped with his fiancée just like that - it was the exact same car! After that, some metal bars were added beneath the barrier.

    • @jowarrior
      @jowarrior Год назад +33

      He didn’t rent “a sports car” he rented the same sports car, exactly the same, an Austin-Healey Sprite. He heard about the fist case, got the same exact car and did it again!

    • @MyRegardsToTheDodo
      @MyRegardsToTheDodo Год назад +49

      It was a different crossing. Heinz Meixner crossed under the barrier at Checkpoint Charlie, where steel braces were added just a day later (or atleast that's what I read). Norberd Konrad fled under the barrier at the foreigners' crossing at Friedrichstraße.

    • @patrickhanft
      @patrickhanft Год назад +16

      @@jowarrior yes, but apparently he didn't know that it was the exact same car at that time, just, that it was the same model. This is just so incredible!

    • @1973Washu
      @1973Washu Год назад

      Did he return the car back to the rental agency in East Germany?

    • @MyRegardsToTheDodo
      @MyRegardsToTheDodo Год назад +15

      @@1973Washu He didn't rent it in East Germany. He rented it in West Berlin, then drove it into East Berlin, where he picked up his fiance and his mother in law to be and pulled off the stunt. It would be kinda weird to be able to rent a British sports car in East Germany.

  • @kevtheis
    @kevtheis Год назад +44

    I love how Tom just goes full Brannan with his nose answer!

    • @peachierose3356
      @peachierose3356 Год назад +5

      lmao I was surprised, but anything is worth trying in this format!

  • @bobb.boberson4437
    @bobb.boberson4437 Год назад +141

    Wow, If I saw that in an action movie I'd think it was unrealistic and the script writers shouldn't quit their day jobs. But not only did they try it in real life, it worked! Jason Bourne would stand in awe of this group.

    • @SierraLimaOscar
      @SierraLimaOscar Год назад +5

      I believe there is a Mission Impossible episode where they do exactly this.

    • @aryst0krat
      @aryst0krat Год назад +5

      In an action movie they'd just smash the windshield off against the barrier tbf

  • @Naf623
    @Naf623 Год назад +29

    Here I was thinking there was some sort of permit stuck in the windscreen that they didn't want people to see.

  • @JoeBleasdaleReal
    @JoeBleasdaleReal Год назад +13

    That is a cracking video title 😂😂😂

    • @lateralcast
      @lateralcast  Год назад +9

      I was quite pleased with it...

  • @Animaniac-vd5st
    @Animaniac-vd5st Год назад +24

    "Somebody has to return the rental" was a great thought.
    But i assume it was rented in the west and he legally crossed to the east to pick up his east-German girlfriend.
    Would be surprised if there were sports-car rental in East Germany at that time.
    Also good thinking putting some protection against bullets (aka the MIL) it the trunk.

  • @CompletelyNormal
    @CompletelyNormal Год назад +31

    Good to know that sometimes real life is an action movie.

  • @davidshi451
    @davidshi451 Год назад +15

    I knew this story, and was very impressed with how quickly they got the answer!

  • @nocturnalizzie
    @nocturnalizzie Год назад +10

    My husband and I listened to this episode tonight and both cackled with laughter multiple times. I had a minor pulmonary embolism last week so laughing that hard kind of hurt, but I thoroughly enjoyed the episode despite the pain! The Churchill Slide is a particularly excellent moment. 😆

  • @literally_not_kevin
    @literally_not_kevin Год назад +18

    Dani, Bill, and Will are a fantastic trio yo have on for the pod, more of them pls!

  • @IceArdor
    @IceArdor 6 месяцев назад +1

    Dani and Bill are a hoot. I love every episode they’re in.

  • @libsifywriter2471
    @libsifywriter2471 Год назад +3

    The first time I’ve known the answer straight away! Thank you GCSE History (Cold War)!

  • @ray_mck
    @ray_mck Год назад +1

    Hearing "taking the WINDSHIELD off his RENTED sports car" in an Aussie accent broke my brain a little.

  • @liambohl
    @liambohl Год назад +2

    Impressive solve by this team

  • @vibingwithvinyl
    @vibingwithvinyl Год назад +2

    I read an article about this a good while back. I think it was from the early 90's and showed how they were in the car and how low it really was.

  • @SteinGauslaaStrindhaug
    @SteinGauslaaStrindhaug 5 месяцев назад

    I love how Bill makes a joke and immediately starts to treat the joke as if it was part of the known facts 😂

  • @jama211
    @jama211 Год назад +1

    So genius!

  • @Pencilneckgeek216
    @Pencilneckgeek216 Год назад +1

    I feel like I've seen Steve McQueen do this stunt, but maybe that's just the Great Escape creeping into my brain.

  • @donaldasayers
    @donaldasayers Год назад +5

    I have only listened to the first few seconds of this, but I remember a friend of mine taking his Caterham 7 straight under the barrier at the Severn crossing without paying, he got chased down by the police and had the book throw at him. I suspect barriers have summat to do with it.

  • @AnimeSunglasses
    @AnimeSunglasses Год назад

    I spent a good chunk of this certain that it was a DIFFERENT case of smuggling someone out of East Berlin, when they hid the person inside the dashboard of a car.
    Stands to reason that in order to take a dashboard off enough to get a person entirely behind it, you might have to take the windshield off first!

  • @MakooWallinen
    @MakooWallinen Год назад

    I knew this one!
    As soon as they mentioned border I started thinking about the names and remembered my mom telling me a story where a man smuggled something across the border after having measured the border crossing and picking the correct car.
    Thanks mom!

  • @simonro9168
    @simonro9168 Год назад

    Reminds me of that clip from a parking garage where a Lambo manages to slip underneath the barrier without paying.

  • @firstcynic92
    @firstcynic92 Год назад +3

    The Berlin Wall was built in August 1961

  • @joelf1
    @joelf1 10 месяцев назад

    Since the Mauerfall (fall of the Berlin wall) was "only" about 35 years ago, parents and grandparents still have loads of stories about the time before. From the eastern German Trabant car ("Trabbi") everyone in the DDR tried to get their hands on (which was difficult) to things being smuggled into the DDR and people out of it by hiding it/them creatively in vehicles (false bottoms, under the seats, sometimes really crazy stuff) and of course other way to get out of the country like tunneling under the border from the cellars of houses for months only to be caught on the day they finished the tunnel or flying over the border via hot air ballon.

  • @ThandrieDavis
    @ThandrieDavis Год назад

    Brilliant.

  • @Sam_on_YouTube
    @Sam_on_YouTube Год назад

    I knew this one.

  • @nitehawk86
    @nitehawk86 Год назад

    "What does a car look like..." hehe

  • @TheRealInscrutable
    @TheRealInscrutable Год назад

    I almost got it. I assumed it was because of stickers on the windshield and they had to conceal the foreign license/inspection stamps.

  • @signalpath
    @signalpath Год назад

    Bill having a pop filter in front of a SM58 which has a built in pop filter is wild

  • @Queleb1
    @Queleb1 Год назад

    Great cast and episode ❤

  • @777anarchist
    @777anarchist Год назад

    My first thought was about the bloke transporting his girlfriend in a casket. Happy to know I was wrong.

  • @TitusX49
    @TitusX49 8 дней назад

    Is that “ayy!” In the music a sample of Tom’s voice?

  • @dmac2573
    @dmac2573 Год назад +10

    I'm 99% sure I heard this story somewhere else recently, maybe on a different podcast? Anybody else know what I'm talking about?

    • @dmac2573
      @dmac2573 Год назад

      Maybe a Rory Sutherland interview or something?

    • @jowarrior
      @jowarrior Год назад

      Carmudgeon show I think.

  • @ThreadBomb
    @ThreadBomb Год назад

    My guess was they were worried the checkpoint guards would actually take the windshield in order to sell it.

  • @hermankopinga
    @hermankopinga Год назад

    I feel there could be an Tom Scott episode about the stool at “the house at checkpoint charly”. If memory serves there was a permanent lookout who could help in case of East Germans fleeing.

  • @malthomas987
    @malthomas987 Год назад +6

    Now there is True Love there. and mother in law?? well??

    • @MyRegardsToTheDodo
      @MyRegardsToTheDodo Год назад

      Sadly it didn't have a happy end. They got married four months later and then moved to Linz (Austria), where he was originally from. He died a few years later in an accident, when he dropped an electric razor into a sink filled with water and tried grabbing it, electrocuting himself.

  • @korganrocks3995
    @korganrocks3995 Год назад

    What if they shoot at us?
    I know, bricks!

  • @mulgerbill
    @mulgerbill 11 месяцев назад

    Nineteen seconds in...
    Ooh! I know this one!!!

  • @erictaylor5462
    @erictaylor5462 5 месяцев назад

    She stuck her nose up and got a free nose job.
    Boarder guards, "What the hell was that."
    "Who nose?"
    Maybe we can look at the tape."
    "Now, not who knows, Who nose is that on the ground."

  • @Cruxador
    @Cruxador Год назад

    He was actually correct about the name difference mattering! Thurau is an eastern name, my impression is Prussian although idk, and Meixner is a Saxon name.

  • @OwlRTA
    @OwlRTA Год назад

    BEANS!!!!!!

  • @usmh
    @usmh Год назад

    The fact that a country will prevent its citizens from leaving is stunning. Like it's a prison!

  • @sophiamarchildon3998
    @sophiamarchildon3998 Год назад

    Initial thoughts: Heinz was in Europe (German-sounding name), and Thurau's (Thoreau's) home was in America. They had to go by either sea or air. Removing the windshield from its upright position, reduced the total boxy volume of the car as cargo, and thus was both cheaper and fitted the transportation mean available for them. The car being necessary to _drive_ her home.

  • @sakatagintoki6113
    @sakatagintoki6113 Год назад

    Williams tshirt is dope😂

  • @TheInternetHelpdeskPlays
    @TheInternetHelpdeskPlays Год назад

    Question. Did Ian Fleming's James Bond do it first or take inspiration from it?

  • @Anzy.99
    @Anzy.99 Год назад +8

    This is SO FUNNY but its crazy that they even had to do something like this because humanity makes shit decisions and we are terrible with each other

  • @pangtundure
    @pangtundure 10 месяцев назад

    lady of the night for the Hit

  • @faenethlorhalien
    @faenethlorhalien Год назад

    B..b..BEAANZ!?

  • @nfcopier1
    @nfcopier1 Год назад

    Out of idle curiosity, I'm wondering what the make and model of that sports car was.

    • @landfillbaby
      @landfillbaby Год назад

      i googled, it was an Austin-Healey Sprite

  • @psydunk1
    @psydunk1 10 месяцев назад

    Sorry but where can I buy that pikachu tshirt?

  • @happyundertaker6255
    @happyundertaker6255 Год назад

    Did anybody make the joke about the bullet-catcher inlaw in the boot?

  • @Slikx666
    @Slikx666 Год назад

    Could that have been the original lowrider?

  • @koacado
    @koacado Год назад

    I thought he took the windshield off because he had very bad gas from eating so many beans

  • @snazzycollections
    @snazzycollections Год назад

    how does removing the windsheilod help get the car across?

    • @korganrocks3995
      @korganrocks3995 Год назад

      The barrier was a horizontal pole, like at a railroad crossing, so without the windshield the sports car was low enough to go under it.

    • @snazzycollections
      @snazzycollections Год назад

      @@korganrocks3995 But there's still the roof o the car?

    • @korganrocks3995
      @korganrocks3995 Год назад

      @@snazzycollections I'm assuming it was a convertible.

    • @snazzycollections
      @snazzycollections Год назад

      @@korganrocks3995 But isn't there still metal framing or something

    • @panda4247
      @panda4247 Год назад +2

      Look up Austin-Healey Sprite images, there is no frame for the roof or anything else

  • @junkmail2223
    @junkmail2223 Год назад

    I've known like five of these offhand now

  • @MrMctastics
    @MrMctastics Год назад +2

    windsheild covered in beans

  • @UserUnknown07
    @UserUnknown07 Год назад

    Heinz is a genius 🔥

  • @kevinbarnard3502
    @kevinbarnard3502 9 месяцев назад

    Okay. Yes, it is amusing and worth laughing at now. But, I, personally, cannot imagine having to live in that atmosphere. It says something about how "wonderful" life behind the Iron Curtain must've been for all those people who went to some incredible lengths to get out. The thing that makes me laugh is when the gov't propaganda justified building the wall in order to prevent any outsiders from getting in to East Berlin.

  • @ethelmini
    @ethelmini Год назад

    Might not interest everyone, but as people are asking how the car could do it: ruclips.net/video/4-DGMrLGnLg/видео.html