Nah Ger was designed for Giorno to be the unchallenged boss of the mob it's also literally stated to have no known limits to it's power and even the user doesn't know what it's truly capable of which we seen from no other stand which would means it's completely different from any other stand and probably just has a protective property to its ability that won't allow Giorno to be harmed
@@lilmcmill7641Burning Down The House also has no stand stats and Time Stop is said to be the Ultimate Stand Ability in the character books, GER simply can't reverse something that never even started.
It was designed to counter king crimson's ability just so happens that how it counters it applies to everything star platinum can't do anything against him
@@l0sts0ul89 no stats and being stated to have no known limits to it's ability are two different things are you dumb my guy and even if Ger stats are unknown we know that literally beats every other stand stats in every category (said suppressed all others stands and the ultimate stand) and time stop never stated to be the ultimate ability and we literally see it be countered by made in heaven lmao bozo also ger has no stand stats because how far it evolved and not on an immeasurable level now
You're right. Everyone assumes that GER is automatic or can move at an infinite speed (movement/time erase). The former hasnt even been shown or stated, and the latter is based on the false premise that time is actually erased when it is moreso forgotten. The fight would go like this, Jotaro attacks, gets punch returned to zero, stops time instantly and caves giornos head in, time resumes and wins. There is no proof GER can move in ts, time erase is not a time ability, and only other ts users and gravity manipulators have been shown to move in it.
Jotaro doesn't scale to Pucci in any way he was already blitzed by him multiple times and only had a chance to kill because of Anasui and Jotaro didn't intercepted Pucci he stopped moving when Jotaro punched and then Pucci reacted + it would be inconsistent for Pucci to have UNI durability and still get tagged by Jolyne and Emporio who are WAY WAY below this so. Giorno should scale zbove the like of Notorious Big which is stated to have infinite speed so no Jotaro couldn't even blitz... Diavolo wasn't even a thing when pt4 was published idk how you think that make sense to use this statement to down scale him regardless of that SC is mftl in base and Diavolo blitzed him "But he used epitaph 🤓☝️" huh yeah and he still would have to be fast enough to move before SC hit him regardless of his speed (matter of fact you said yourself that thing still move in "erased time") also you seems to misunderstood GER ability RTZ doesn't work only on Diavolo otherwise mista bullet the crow ect wouldn't have been reverted so no this isn't something that "only work on diavolo" and the statement about SP being the strongest stand should refer to the time of part 6 bc it's contradicted later while Giorno stand is stated to be ABIVE the tiering stystem of jojo and unbound by it so no Jotaro vs Giorno ain't close and it's in favour of Giorno
@@MRForca There is no way you are gonna say that in a debate 💀Makes you lose all your credibility too lol. Also, you didn't debunk GER at all, its just BS.
Jotaro blatantly does scales two Pucci, and even exceed made in heaven on every stat except for Speed, jotaro Kujo said in the stone ocean manga and the anime he's the only one who can stop him now, because of his time stop ability. I'm pretty sure what MRForca was trying to say is that star Platinum has an ability that goes beyond infinite speed while ger is slower than King Crimson, who already had to use his time skip to dodge a slower stand being silver chariot, star Platinum is the only other stand that has been referred to as "the ultimate stand" ger has also been referred to this, so it's very possible that they are close, which is why jotaro would win in a fight because if their stands are close inpower, it comes down to the users, and Jotaro has been shown to be very smart physically strong and heavily durable, he's able to take attacks from the world take Kira's bombs and a lot of other stuff it has been shown to survive it, even when Pucci cut right through him, he was still alive long enough to talk.
@@vn9574 general comprehensive abilities would tell you he isn't erasing time, were he to erase time, epitaph and timeskip would be useless and things wouldn't move if he erased time, but we see things like mistas bullets move and we see that things have an end point after timeskip is over. If he actually erased time, it would erase all the actions meaning birds and bullets wouldn't move during and after even though they are explicitly shown to move in the manga
i still dont understand the part where you mentionned that star platinum was able to stand up to pucci and stop his time ability but he got blitzed by pucci and used that to mesure his power level in part six???
Jeez bro amazing video I can't understand some of the people in the comment watching the whole video and still being unable to accept that GER was made just for KC 😭😭😭
King Crimson does erase time. Unless some official source comes out and says King Crimson doesn't erase time itself, then I will believe it. Until then, it is a baseless speculation. Also, with the same logic, Star Platinum doesn't stop time. Made in Heaven proves that. Start using your own head rather than believing random BS from small and ignorant RUclipsrs.
Polnareff's droplets of blood are proof time skip doesn't actually skip time. If so there wouldn't be more drops of blood after time skip than before. If Dio or Jotaro stoped time for 5 seconds, a clock next to them wouldn't be able to run in those 5 seconds, because there is no time for it to do so.
yes, it doesn't skip time, but it make people unaware that they have skipped a certain moment the KC manipulates, meanwhile the KC and its user still unaffected by this ability.
Ugh people say that ger vs strong stands say that it isn't even close and the strong stand wins, the fact why everyone says this is because they want to dunk on people who say ger is the strongest stand and get views while doing it, and also because they think its over hyped and think they're "smart" i'm sick of it, by the way, GER has other abilities than Return to zero, why don't you get your facts straight and see what stands and they're abilities actually do. Edit: sorry for my rant, i just had to get it out of my system, sorry for being mad, peace.
If you watched the video I did bring up his other abilities 😭. Also this isn’t the first video I’ve made regarding my ger. Made one almost 2 gers ago but I went more in detail here
People forget that ger was specifically designed to defeat kc not exactly more powerful stands like sp and mih
literally
Nah Ger was designed for Giorno to be the unchallenged boss of the mob it's also literally stated to have no known limits to it's power and even the user doesn't know what it's truly capable of which we seen from no other stand which would means it's completely different from any other stand and probably just has a protective property to its ability that won't allow Giorno to be harmed
@@lilmcmill7641Burning Down The House also has no stand stats and Time Stop is said to be the Ultimate Stand Ability in the character books, GER simply can't reverse something that never even started.
It was designed to counter king crimson's ability just so happens that how it counters it applies to everything star platinum can't do anything against him
@@l0sts0ul89 no stats and being stated to have no known limits to it's ability are two different things are you dumb my guy and even if Ger stats are unknown we know that literally beats every other stand stats in every category (said suppressed all others stands and the ultimate stand) and time stop never stated to be the ultimate ability and we literally see it be countered by made in heaven lmao bozo also ger has no stand stats because how far it evolved and not on an immeasurable level now
great editing and a great video you earned my like and my sub but i am not entirely convinced
I’ll take that into account next time I’ll make a video regarding ger
I love you man keep up the good work your underated asf
Thank you man
Your editing has improved
Depends who’s theme plays first
You're right. Everyone assumes that GER is automatic or can move at an infinite speed (movement/time erase). The former hasnt even been shown or stated, and the latter is based on the false premise that time is actually erased when it is moreso forgotten. The fight would go like this, Jotaro attacks, gets punch returned to zero, stops time instantly and caves giornos head in, time resumes and wins. There is no proof GER can move in ts, time erase is not a time ability, and only other ts users and gravity manipulators have been shown to move in it.
W editing
Jotaro doesn't scale to Pucci in any way he was already blitzed by him multiple times and only had a chance to kill because of Anasui and Jotaro didn't intercepted Pucci he stopped moving when Jotaro punched and then Pucci reacted + it would be inconsistent for Pucci to have UNI durability and still get tagged by Jolyne and Emporio who are WAY WAY below this so. Giorno should scale zbove the like of Notorious Big which is stated to have infinite speed so no Jotaro couldn't even blitz... Diavolo wasn't even a thing when pt4 was published idk how you think that make sense to use this statement to down scale him regardless of that SC is mftl in base and Diavolo blitzed him "But he used epitaph 🤓☝️" huh yeah and he still would have to be fast enough to move before SC hit him regardless of his speed (matter of fact you said yourself that thing still move in "erased time") also you seems to misunderstood GER ability RTZ doesn't work only on Diavolo otherwise mista bullet the crow ect wouldn't have been reverted so no this isn't something that "only work on diavolo" and the statement about SP being the strongest stand should refer to the time of part 6 bc it's contradicted later while Giorno stand is stated to be ABIVE the tiering stystem of jojo and unbound by it so no Jotaro vs Giorno ain't close and it's in favour of Giorno
Im not reading this essay broski. If you wanna talk or debate about this join the discord in the bio or discord.gg/marineford
@@MRForca There is no way you are gonna say that in a debate 💀Makes you lose all your credibility too lol. Also, you didn't debunk GER at all, its just BS.
i've never lost this debate and i've debated it over 2 years.@@vn9574
Jotaro blatantly does scales two Pucci, and even exceed made in heaven on every stat except for Speed, jotaro Kujo said in the stone ocean manga and the anime he's the only one who can stop him now, because of his time stop ability. I'm pretty sure what MRForca was trying to say is that star Platinum has an ability that goes beyond infinite speed while ger is slower than King Crimson, who already had to use his time skip to dodge a slower stand being silver chariot, star Platinum is the only other stand that has been referred to as "the ultimate stand" ger has also been referred to this, so it's very possible that they are close, which is why jotaro would win in a fight because if their stands are close inpower, it comes down to the users, and Jotaro has been shown to be very smart physically strong and heavily durable, he's able to take attacks from the world take Kira's bombs and a lot of other stuff it has been shown to survive it, even when Pucci cut right through him, he was still alive long enough to talk.
finlly somene understands that kc isn't erasing time
He is. It is stated in no official source that KC isn't erasing time.
@@vn9574 general comprehensive abilities would tell you he isn't erasing time, were he to erase time, epitaph and timeskip would be useless and things wouldn't move if he erased time, but we see things like mistas bullets move and we see that things have an end point after timeskip is over. If he actually erased time, it would erase all the actions meaning birds and bullets wouldn't move during and after even though they are explicitly shown to move in the manga
I have a little game theory...
What if there is a way to defeat GER, kind of like there was a way to defeat Chariot Requiem.
Heat
Thank you bro 🙏
i still dont understand the part where you mentionned that star platinum was able to stand up to pucci and stop his time ability but he got blitzed by pucci and used that to mesure his power level in part six???
sweet heavens i did not see it like that well i am convinced
Jeez bro amazing video I can't understand some of the people in the comment watching the whole video and still being unable to accept that GER was made just for KC 😭😭😭
Literally man
they got upset about my newest one too
@@MRForca I watched it man its so funny when you're so unbiased
King Crimson does erase time. Unless some official source comes out and says King Crimson doesn't erase time itself, then I will believe it. Until then, it is a baseless speculation. Also, with the same logic, Star Platinum doesn't stop time. Made in Heaven proves that. Start using your own head rather than believing random BS from small and ignorant RUclipsrs.
@@Epremte Get off his cock, you have been riding it for way too long lol.
Thanks for debunking that overrated stand
Lmao np. Im actually doing a jojo crossverse versus battle right now. Prob be uploaded in a day or two
@@MRForca I'll definitely Watch keep up the good work
He’s not overrated he is the strongest and I don’t like GER
What debunk? This is nonsense. You are kinda weird in the head for believing this BS. Debate if you want proper scaling.
Death 13 solos giorono
Polnareff's droplets of blood are proof time skip doesn't actually skip time. If so there wouldn't be more drops of blood after time skip than before. If Dio or Jotaro stoped time for 5 seconds, a clock next to them wouldn't be able to run in those 5 seconds, because there is no time for it to do so.
yes, it doesn't skip time, but it make people unaware that they have skipped a certain moment the KC manipulates, meanwhile the KC and its user still unaffected by this ability.
araki said ger is the strongest jojo stand. So ger vs star platiem isnt close. With GER is much stronger than star plat
Can't reverse something that never even progressed
It was in the process of being reverted.
Ger >>>>> diavolo >> polanreff ~< jotaro jajajajajaja
Jotaro >>> diavolo > polnareff
@@ningnings_worldKing Crimson > Star Platinum
@@TheProphetLotThe World >>>> King Crimson
Ugh people say that ger vs strong stands say that it isn't even close and the strong stand wins, the fact why everyone says this is because they want to dunk on people who say ger is the strongest stand and get views while doing it, and also because they think its over hyped and think they're "smart" i'm sick of it, by the way, GER has other abilities than Return to zero, why don't you get your facts straight and see what stands and they're abilities actually do.
Edit: sorry for my rant, i just had to get it out of my system, sorry for being mad, peace.
If you watched the video I did bring up his other abilities 😭. Also this isn’t the first video I’ve made regarding my ger. Made one almost 2 gers ago but I went more in detail here
This video made my laugh
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You mean "Made my day" ?
@@TheProphetLot nope
@@rayshoe4472 You mean "Made me laugh"?
@@TheProphetLot yeah because this video about GER is wrong
Giorno win if ges thème play