So much more calming than modern TV. They're talking at a normal pace and there isn't loads of distracting text about other stuff scrolling along the bottom of the screen and randomly popping up.
Remember this was from 1983. We had only four television channels available. As there was lack of choice, with just four channels, people sat down and watched it all, and interviews were designed with this in mind.
@@johnking5174 I remember the launch of channel 5. In some ways it doesn't seem all that long ago now. Different times and needs though. Still, a lot of the time now the news is whisked through so fast - and some of the other programmes - that's it's over before I've even had a chance to think about what they're saying. Brief pauses and spaces in talking and choosing how much to display on the screen are a bit like white space in printed text and graphic design. You can have too much, but you can also have too little.
@@Ben-fr8gi Thames Television had a lot of these basic talk show formats. Talking Personally was one of them, where there was no audience, a very basic set, and two chairs, one interview. Also Thames arranged that the half hour interviews would have no commercial break in them. It would run to 25 minutes, with the commercials aired after the programme had ended, to ensure the flow of the interview was not disturbed.
On a serious note, tho. You should be thankful that the conflict took place, albeit it's inherent drama and loss. Because it made lovely Maggy realize England had people freezing up on a piece of rock in the south Atlantic (no offence intended)
Can't believe there were calls for a public enquiry on the sinking of the Belgrano. Did we need to have public enquiries on the sinking of the Bismark, or the Tirpitz? We were at war the day that Argentinian forces invaded The Falklands.
The Belgrano wasnt on war territory, we didnt even had decent armament. And we didnt choose the war. We were in a dictatorship and the crazy man that were on the power ordered the invasion
@@lunam5052 Try and take them again Argie. You'd lose even worse. I know democracy is not in your vocabulary, but let us be extremely clear here: The Falklands are part of the UK territories. I guess your native language is Spanish - which means you are actually a colonizer. You should go back to Spain. Hypocrite much,
@@lunam5052 Argentina is a colony of Spain, so I suggest you all up and leave for Spain if you believe that. The people of the Falklands are the native people of the islands.
The British knew the true intentions of the Argentinian navy, because it had monitored messages. But it did want to reveal its surveillance capabilities. It is very important to note that the captain of the Belgrano never complained that its sinking was a war crime: he was part of the plan to form a pincer that would strike a devastating blow to the British.
The MM-38 were fom 1967 and their range of attack was around 40 KM. The Argentine Navy was uncomparable to the Royal Navy (I suppousse you understand who had the third most powerful navy) Belgrano sinked when in direction to Tierra del Fuego while British navy comes from the north and north east.. too much distance. With this sinking she secure her political succes but instead she condemned many lives of both countries since from this incident it scalated to a military conflict, ruining the peace plans.
@@mharg6408 the captain of the Belgrano never condemned the attack as a war crime, because he knew he was part of a ruse to surprise the British with a pincer. However feasible, that was their plan. If the British list an aircraft carrier, the Falklands were lost. The "peace negotiations", supposedly scuppered by this incident, were not anything more than an attempt to gain support to compel the UK to give up its claim to sovereignty.
@@spencersfarm The attack planned by Argentine navy was untruth since they wanted to take the Belgrano to Tierra del Fuego and unpracticeable in tactical aspects, two or three ships (including Belgrano) attaquing the British navy?. Whatever he says, I can't understand why he didn't die with the Belgrano, I don't know how he is alive being captain. Anyway I didn't say it was a "crime", cenrtainly it was a contraditory fact. The peace plans was for not to convert the island crisis in a military conflict, also the Junta consider at first sight to not generate a warlike thing, obviously they didn't do that after the sink, but before that, they didn't need to generate some kind of attack over the HMS ships. She wanted a war, she got that, that's the reason because she sent the Royal fleet.
@@mharg6408 that is incorrect! The British intercepted Argentinian radio traffic + but did not want anyone to know they had such surveillance capabilities. This is public knowledge now, if you are interested in facts.
@@spencersfarm Tell me, how the Belgrano could attack with two other ships the British fleet who comes from the North and East Island's side. The Argentine navy knew about the nuclear subs even before the sink, but did not expect an attack, why do you think it was like this? supposedly from a navy that was planning to combat.
I wish Gillian Anderson had used that voice in The Crown. Instead, she used the voice Thatcher used in her speeches for normal conversations, which gave her performance elements of caricature. Still, it was the best portrayal of the Prime Minister.
5:50 "You have the luxury of knowing that we came through all right." (referring to the Falklands War) Exactly. It is so easy for others to question her decision years or decades later and not have the outcome change. She did not know what the final result would be with certainty and had to make the decisions to obtain the "right" outcome. What a fabulous woman.
At about the same time they had strong diplomatic and commercial relations with Saudi Arabia, Apartheid South Africa, and Pinochet’s Chile, eight years after they deported British subjects from Diego Garcia to make space for a US military base, and 13 years after the disastrous decision to send Lt. Gen. Ian Freeland to impose martial law in Ulster? The British usually fly the flag for freedom when it’s in their interests to do so. It’s also worth remembering that the military government at the heart of the National Reorganisation Process in Argentina were trained by both US military and UK-based management consultants.
The people of ulster needed the British army to impose martial law, to stop the IRA terrorists slaughtering people. Yes it never stopped the IRA but without the army the death toll would of been much worse.
@@wolfblitzer1981 Wake up - The British army were installed to protect CATHOLIC families from sectarian attacks. The Provisional campaign only started two years AFTER the British Army were sent to Ulster. Try reading a book sometime.
@@markofsaltburn You do realise that Nelson Mandela praised Margret Tatcher for helping to end apartheid? Saudi Arabia was extremely wealthy and abundant in oil and an extremely important trade partner. In relation to arms deals this is not in any way a rare occurrence. She sold Tornado jets to Saudi Arabia just the the USSR sold Mig's to Vietnam or the Americans sold MANPAD's to the Afghani population. Ulster is British so why should you not fly the British flag? The people vote to stay British so they stay British and if you want war to make Ulster Irish you can face the British Army.
Yes she was a true leader and I was disgusted by some of the remarks on social media when she passed away. Like or dislike she was someone’s mother and her children should not have had to listen to the vile remarks that were made about her. Personally I had great admiration for her.
The Argentinians invaded British Islands, and the Prime Minister is being questioned about the enemies war ship being sunk? Am I missing something here?
I met her once. She offered me a Polo Mint and pulled the packet out of her bra. I said "Surely that's uncomfortable?" and she replied "childbirth is uncomfortable but at least I always know where my mints are and that's more than can be said for the single currency." She was, in many ways, a complicated woman.
Does that include grabbing women by their genitals? They have nothing in common, policies or otherwise. You can’t compare the two of them, he’s a showman and entrepreneur. She’s cut from a very different cloth.
WHy anyone would criticize the sinking of the Belgrano is beyond me. If I were in command, I'd have done the same, and then used the submarines to strike the airbases (with conventional weapons) inside Argentina. That might have saved the lives of those who died on ships in San Carlos Water and beyond.
@@Amethyst_Friend all this lock down crap is political nothing to do with Covid-19. 400 people die every day from cancer is this making the news? It’s all part of the plan. Sage is full of left wing communists, not a conspiracy but fact….
@@cameronjose3600 over the years the education system as grown followers, a generation of week minded jelly’s. Follow the ruling class don’t believe in facts and truths.
Had the Belgrano been "let go" and then took part in operations that would have undoubtedly caused massive British casualties, then those same people who opposed the sinking would definitely be screaming for her resignation for allowing the Belgrano to get away and mishandling the whole conflict. They were very angry that Thatcher denied them that situation.
Thatcher wasn't scared to make the tough decision to sink the Belgrano outside of the exclusion zone. That took balls. The Belgrano could out-range any surface ship that we had in the task force, so it was the right thing to do. The Argentine navy wasn't an issue after that and largely went back to port, so again, it was the right thing to do to preserve the safety of the fleet.
The MM-38 were fom 1967 and their range of attack was around 40 KM. The Belgrano sinked when in direction to Tierra del Fuego while British navy comes from the north and north east.. too much distance. With this sinking she secure her political succes but instead she condemned many lives of both countries since from this incident it scalated to a military conflict, ruining the peace plans.
@@heraldeventsandfilms5970 are you that rude about anyone who happens to have a different opinion to yours? That being your opinion which much surely be correct while everyone else’s is definitely wrong
The Belgrano was fitted with Exocet missile systems which would cause havoc on the British fleet. Anyone who's been on the great two-way firing range knows you have to try and deprive the other side of their most effective weapons if at all possible. Sinking the Belgrano achieved that. It took a lot of nerve for Thatcher to order those shots but in doing so probably saved a lot of lives on both sides.
The MM-38 were fom 1967 and their range of attack was around 40 KM. The Belgrano sinked when in direction to Tierra del Fuego while British navy comes from the north and north east.. too much distance. With this sinking she secure her political succes but instead she condemned many lives of both countries since from this incident it scalated to a military conflict, ruining the peace plans.
The QEII was steaming south with 5000 of our lads on board. I guess Labour and the whinging lefties would have sent a dozen life vests for when the Belgrano did it's dirty work.
She was not fitted with Exocet mucker, it was the " Drummond class" corvettes in Task Group 79.1 that had the MM38, Belgrano was part of 79.3. ex F126 in the Falklands myself.
@@myoctobersymphony4446 You are a see you NT. Both were warmongers, albeit one of them serving a purpose before being shown two fingers when peace came. Thatcher led the hardest right-wing government the UK has ever had. She supported SA apartheid and was a neo-Fascist herself. No Pasran you see you NT.
@@myoctobersymphony4446 She called Nelson Mandela a terrorist and certainly did support the racist government of PW Botha. I assume you are either too young to remember, a revisionist liar or a crap computer program.
the belgrano sunk was a master stroke the argie navy never left port for the rest of the war.th eargie aircraft carrier was the next target ,play with the lions tale get bit by the jaws
She was so direct and to the point - cunning and clever, sharp and ruthless ..... think she would have eaten Borris for breakfast had had Corbin shot a dawn ( 🤞🏻) She had her pro’s and cons obviously!
@@sedricsaunders3480 Nothing - I was being sarcastic, in that anyone who would sanction the execution of the leader of an opposition party (as OP suggested Thatcher would), is in essence no better than a Stalinist dictator.
I feel she wouldn’t do much to help covid and think it to be not so bad. I wouldn’t call her the best because she did a lot of things that were pretty awful to the lower class. She did have her achievements but she would have a very outdated view on society if she ran the show today
For all she got wrong, she got an awful lot right, the retake of the Falklands was absolutely necessary for Britain to have any sort of pride in itself. Let alone the actual legalities. On Belgrano specifically, she was correct - dreadful as it was to sink the cruiser. It was trying to bring about a pincer attack and take out a British carrier, which would have meant end of attempt to retake the islands. Horrible things have to be done during conflict.
It was the right decision. Naval forces constantly change direction in a war zone. Also this event sent the rest of the Argentine navy back to port which probably saved countless lives.
Captain Hector Bonzo - the captain of the Belgrano has said more than once that the British got it right. He was planning on button-hooking back into the exclusion zone to get shots at the British ships. He also agrees that strategically the British did the right thing. If his ship had not been sunk - he would have sunk British ships. That was his plan. His interviews can be found on the internet quite easily if you Google his name.
🙄Quando sei in guerra, si affondano le navi Non è un crimine di guerra Almeno che non si debbano usare le fionde con le ghiande o l'arco con le frecce L'Argentina poi affonderà lo "Sheffield"
Margaret Thatcher was intelligent, articulate and well prepared to talk about whatever the current issues were with facts and details. Trump is consistently lacking in all of these areas.
Considering Trump has the intellectual capacity of an angry 13 year old these comparisons are rather silly. I mean, you should be comparing her to a true peer if you really want to showcase how sharp she was.
Put it that way is the same to what the Japanese felt for the Liancourt Rocks, to what Argentines felt for the Falkland, same to Takeshima/Dokdo but to Argentina they know the Falklands as Malvinas.
Burnett revealed to be unprepared and actually was Knocked out by a calm H. H. Thatcher. What a beating. I watched twice just to see the Burnett make a fool of himself.
"fun" fact no. A48272 (n sad situation).......In late 1977, Silvia Morella de Palma, who was then seven months pregnant, was airlifted to Esperanza Base, in order to complete her pregnancy in the base.[3] The airlift was a part of the Argentine solutions to the sovereignty dispute over territory in Antarctica. Emilio was automatically granted Argentine citizenship by the government since his parents were both Argentine citizens, and he was born in the claimed Argentine Antarctica. This is a sector of Antarctica claimed by Argentina as part of its national territory, although this claim is not internationally recognised and overlaps with British and Chilean claims.
We could do with another Conservative government. The problems of the 1970s were caused by 30 years of socialism after the war. We've had nearly 30 years of it again since the 1990s including the current incumbents.
Unfortunately, we've never lived in a free market. And we've lived in a very socialist country since 1945. Thatcher simply made some minor, indeed overrated tweaks. And, if she hadn't, someone else would have, whether another Conservative or even a Labour Prime Minister. Indeed, while in the UK, the US and Canada it was the centre-right that enacted these reforms, in New Zealand and Australia it was the centre-left!
@@YorickReturns We're a mixed economy so we may have more government intervention than lets say America but i still think socialism is strong as u said it's a spectrum so u may see it that way but i don't nonetheless i wouldn't want to see socialism or communism that's for sure.
Why can't interviews be like this anymore? Civil and allow the interviewee to actually answer rather than talking over each other?
The Democrats in America were at this time still in diapers sucking on dummies.
The Snakes of PR and the Right Wing
Alastair Burnett was a real gentleman.
So much more calming than modern TV. They're talking at a normal pace and there isn't loads of distracting text about other stuff scrolling along the bottom of the screen and randomly popping up.
Remember this was from 1983. We had only four television channels available. As there was lack of choice, with just four channels, people sat down and watched it all, and interviews were designed with this in mind.
@@johnking5174 I remember the launch of channel 5. In some ways it doesn't seem all that long ago now.
Different times and needs though. Still, a lot of the time now the news is whisked through so fast - and some of the other programmes - that's it's over before I've even had a chance to think about what they're saying. Brief pauses and spaces in talking and choosing how much to display on the screen are a bit like white space in printed text and graphic design. You can have too much, but you can also have too little.
@@Ben-fr8gi Thames Television had a lot of these basic talk show formats. Talking Personally was one of them, where there was no audience, a very basic set, and two chairs, one interview. Also Thames arranged that the half hour interviews would have no commercial break in them. It would run to 25 minutes, with the commercials aired after the programme had ended, to ensure the flow of the interview was not disturbed.
@@johnking5174 every dad when u sya there's nothing good on the TV
There’s a beautiful bust of Maggie in the Falkland’s honoring her! Perhaps it’s made of iron.
Being a Falklander, I count myself very fortunate that we had Margret.
if worst came to worst all that would happen is you return to england.
@@billyjesus5442 don’t be stupid those islands are her home
Oh! poor you! you're missing out on all the inflation going on right now in Argentina!
On a serious note, tho. You should be thankful that the conflict took place, albeit it's inherent drama and loss. Because it made lovely Maggy realize England had people freezing up on a piece of rock in the south Atlantic (no offence intended)
Being a pirate, be prepared to hand over the islands, next time Argentina will attack supported by Russia and China, bye bye kelper!
Can't believe there were calls for a public enquiry on the sinking of the Belgrano. Did we need to have public enquiries on the sinking of the Bismark, or the Tirpitz? We were at war the day that Argentinian forces invaded The Falklands.
the Malvinas are a colony of england, we cant have colonies in this century. The islands are ours.
The Belgrano wasnt on war territory, we didnt even had decent armament. And we didnt choose the war. We were in a dictatorship and the crazy man that were on the power ordered the invasion
@@lunam5052 Try and take them again Argie. You'd lose even worse. I know democracy is not in your vocabulary, but let us be extremely clear here: The Falklands are part of the UK territories. I guess your native language is Spanish - which means you are actually a colonizer. You should go back to Spain. Hypocrite much,
@@lunam5052 Argentina is a colony of Spain, so I suggest you all up and leave for Spain if you believe that. The people of the Falklands are the native people of the islands.
@@lunam5052 Even the captain of the Belgrano admitted that it was manoeuvring for battle, and that British forces had every right to sink it.
The British knew the true intentions of the Argentinian navy, because it had monitored messages. But it did want to reveal its surveillance capabilities. It is very important to note that the captain of the Belgrano never complained that its sinking was a war crime: he was part of the plan to form a pincer that would strike a devastating blow to the British.
The MM-38 were fom 1967 and their range of attack was around 40 KM. The Argentine Navy was uncomparable to the Royal Navy (I suppousse you understand who had the third most powerful navy) Belgrano sinked when in direction to Tierra del Fuego while British navy comes from the north and north east.. too much distance. With this sinking she secure her political succes but instead she condemned many lives of both countries since from this incident it scalated to a military conflict, ruining the peace plans.
@@mharg6408 the captain of the Belgrano never condemned the attack as a war crime, because he knew he was part of a ruse to surprise the British with a pincer. However feasible, that was their plan. If the British list an aircraft carrier, the Falklands were lost.
The "peace negotiations", supposedly scuppered by this incident, were not anything more than an attempt to gain support to compel the UK to give up its claim to sovereignty.
@@spencersfarm The attack planned by Argentine navy was untruth since they wanted to take the Belgrano to Tierra del Fuego and unpracticeable in tactical aspects, two or three ships (including Belgrano) attaquing the British navy?. Whatever he says, I can't understand why he didn't die with the Belgrano, I don't know how he is alive being captain. Anyway I didn't say it was a "crime", cenrtainly it was a contraditory fact. The peace plans was for not to convert the island crisis in a military conflict, also the Junta consider at first sight to not generate a warlike thing, obviously they didn't do that after the sink, but before that, they didn't need to generate some kind of attack over the HMS ships. She wanted a war, she got that, that's the reason because she sent the Royal fleet.
@@mharg6408 that is incorrect! The British intercepted Argentinian radio traffic + but did not want anyone to know they had such surveillance capabilities.
This is public knowledge now, if you are interested in facts.
@@spencersfarm Tell me, how the Belgrano could attack with two other ships the British fleet who comes from the North and East Island's side. The Argentine navy knew about the nuclear subs even before the sink, but did not expect an attack, why do you think it was like this? supposedly from a navy that was planning to combat.
I wish Gillian Anderson had used that voice in The Crown. Instead, she used the voice Thatcher used in her speeches for normal conversations, which gave her performance elements of caricature. Still, it was the best portrayal of the Prime Minister.
Watch the Falklands Play with Patricia Hodge. Beyond doubt the best portrayal of her ever.
Verdade Michel - de acordo
She DID use the normal conversation voice!
I think Meryl Streep caught the nuance of the character more
Total caricature.
so many male politicians then and now are weak in comparison - she called them wets!
She was just stunning in this interview...extremely calm, composed, and devastatingly logical.
Indeed. Perfectly logical and clear. Terrific command of thought.
5:50 "You have the luxury of knowing that we came through all right." (referring to the Falklands War)
Exactly. It is so easy for others to question her decision years or decades later and not have the outcome change.
She did not know what the final result would be with certainty and had to make the decisions to obtain the "right" outcome.
What a fabulous woman.
The British freed both the Falkland Islands and Argentina itself from the grip of the junta.
At about the same time they had strong diplomatic and commercial relations with Saudi Arabia, Apartheid South Africa, and Pinochet’s Chile, eight years after they deported British subjects from Diego Garcia to make space for a US military base, and 13 years after the disastrous decision to send Lt. Gen. Ian Freeland to impose martial law in Ulster? The British usually fly the flag for freedom when it’s in their interests to do so. It’s also worth remembering that the military government at the heart of the National Reorganisation Process in Argentina were trained by both US military and UK-based management consultants.
The people of ulster needed the British army to impose martial law, to stop the IRA terrorists slaughtering people. Yes it never stopped the IRA but without the army the death toll would of been much worse.
@@wolfblitzer1981 Wake up - The British army were installed to protect CATHOLIC families from sectarian attacks. The Provisional campaign only started two years AFTER the British Army were sent to Ulster. Try reading a book sometime.
@@markofsaltburn You do realise that Nelson Mandela praised Margret Tatcher for helping to end apartheid? Saudi Arabia was extremely wealthy and abundant in oil and an extremely important trade partner. In relation to arms deals this is not in any way a rare occurrence. She sold Tornado jets to Saudi Arabia just the the USSR sold Mig's to Vietnam or the Americans sold MANPAD's to the Afghani population. Ulster is British so why should you not fly the British flag? The people vote to stay British so they stay British and if you want war to make Ulster Irish you can face the British Army.
any ways..facklands are piece of Argentina s land.. some day will be.. Malvinas.
Back when Prime Ministers where Leaders.
Great leader stabbed in the back because she was a big threat to the EU club
I don't understand what you mean...just brilliant. Great leader.
Yes!!!!! I liked that too!!!
A great leader.
If boris was half of miss T RIP MISS T A TRUE LEADER
All he needs to do now is grow a backbone.
Yes she was a true leader and I was disgusted by some of the remarks on social media when she passed away. Like or dislike she was someone’s mother and her children should not have had to listen to the vile remarks that were made about her. Personally I had great admiration for her.
Fancy an interviewer letting her talk. Got to agree with her on polls. The Belgrano was sunk in a war that Argentina started!
No point whinging about soiled underwear when you chose to risk releasing the risky fart.
The Argentinians invaded British Islands, and the Prime Minister is being questioned about the enemies war ship being sunk? Am I missing something here?
Sure, missing that in 1833 your pirates invaded Malvinas, so the islands were, are and will belong to Argentina!
@@arxegalego31 😂😂😂👎🏻
@@arxegalego311833....ffs.....get a grip
When the UK had a prime minister who loved the country and not in it ro line there own pockets
I met her once. She offered me a Polo Mint and pulled the packet out of her bra. I said "Surely that's uncomfortable?" and she replied "childbirth is uncomfortable but at least I always know where my mints are and that's more than can be said for the single currency." She was, in many ways, a complicated woman.
She's divisive but good Lord, she speaks beautifully and with conviction.
Well done Maggie, you made the right choice. RIP.
She mashed up Labour...cool in my book!
We need a women like this in the US
trust me she would put trump in his place
@@da90sReAlvloc
She would probably tell him to stop running his mouth but she would agree with him 100% on his policies
Does that include grabbing women by their genitals? They have nothing in common, policies or otherwise. You can’t compare the two of them, he’s a showman and entrepreneur. She’s cut from a very different cloth.
@joseph_goebbels606 So were a lot of people including some rockers I'm sure you like but no political will to slander them I suppose.
There isn't a finer leader on the world stage today of the calibre of Margaret Thatcher. Nor has there been since.
WHy anyone would criticize the sinking of the Belgrano is beyond me. If I were in command, I'd have done the same, and then used the submarines to strike the airbases (with conventional weapons) inside Argentina. That might have saved the lives of those who died on ships in San Carlos Water and beyond.
If only we had Maggie in power now, none of this lockdown and dithering with the EU bollocks
How is the lockdown bollocks? What do you think Thatcher would have done- not had one?
Lockdowns are a waste of time , we into lockdown the cases fall, we come out the cases rise
Just get on with life and live with it
@@Amethyst_Friend all this lock down crap is political nothing to do with Covid-19. 400 people die every day from cancer is this making the news? It’s all part of the plan. Sage is full of left wing communists, not a conspiracy but fact….
@@cameronjose3600 over the years the education system as grown followers, a generation of week minded jelly’s. Follow the ruling class don’t believe in facts and truths.
@@cameronjose3600 totally Cameron, it’s all political
Had the Belgrano been "let go" and then took part in operations that would have undoubtedly caused massive British casualties, then those same people who opposed the sinking would definitely be screaming for her resignation for allowing the Belgrano to get away and mishandling the whole conflict. They were very angry that Thatcher denied them that situation.
Exactly!
So cool, calm and collected.
what a lady
Thanks so much for this! Made my day. Keep em coming! 🤩
A very CLEAR and OUTSTANDING STATEMENT ! If only nowadays politicians could show same ASSERTIVNESS ,as you did , during your mandates !
A true and strong leader of men, Iron Lady indeed.
Fortune favours winners, and Thatcher undoubtedly won.
It was a bloody war. Don't get why this was so questioned. Thatcher was very slow and cautious to get involved in the conflict.
A great woman I had the great honour of meeting her several times
How was she in bed?
Thatcher wasn't scared to make the tough decision to sink the Belgrano outside of the exclusion zone. That took balls. The Belgrano could out-range any surface ship that we had in the task force, so it was the right thing to do. The Argentine navy wasn't an issue after that and largely went back to port, so again, it was the right thing to do to preserve the safety of the fleet.
It was terrorism and pure murder, simple
The MM-38 were fom 1967 and their range of attack was around 40 KM. The Belgrano sinked when in direction to Tierra del Fuego while British navy comes from the north and north east.. too much distance. With this sinking she secure her political succes but instead she condemned many lives of both countries since from this incident it scalated to a military conflict, ruining the peace plans.
@@OhEidirsceoil sinking a enemy whip isn't terrorism
@@wolfsden6479 I agree
@@OhEidirsceoil So don't start a war, simple!
I live in Portsmouth and saw both the now scrapped Hermes & Invincible carriers sail 1981 aged 11. - (seems a very very long time ago now)
That was a long time ago, bro! I was 11 in '81 as well.
A long time ago, in a very different country. Funny old world.
She stood ferm for her principles. More people should do so..
Wim Jacobs .....Utter bullshit. She 'stood firm' for hers and her husband's benefit.
Firm*
How I wish we had her now in her prime.
Yeah, hoping to to be shafted by a hideous woman and her henchmen. Mug, effing mug.
Herald Events and Films such nonsense. You're the mug yourself
@@heraldeventsandfilms5970 are you that rude about anyone who happens to have a different opinion to yours? That being your opinion which much surely be correct while everyone else’s is definitely wrong
@@mr.y.mysterious.video1 Na, just twats who are undeserving of civility. No Pasaran.
@@heraldeventsandfilms5970 U have such a vile personality and a weak one at that.
The Belgrano was fitted with Exocet missile systems which would cause havoc on the British fleet. Anyone who's been on the great two-way firing range knows you have to try and deprive the other side of their most effective weapons if at all possible. Sinking the Belgrano achieved that. It took a lot of nerve for Thatcher to order those shots but in doing so probably saved a lot of lives on both sides.
The MM-38 were fom 1967 and their range of attack was around 40 KM. The Belgrano sinked when in direction to Tierra del Fuego while British navy comes from the north and north east.. too much distance. With this sinking she secure her political succes but instead she condemned many lives of both countries since from this incident it scalated to a military conflict, ruining the peace plans.
The QEII was steaming south with 5000 of our lads on board. I guess Labour and the whinging lefties would have sent a dozen life vests for when the Belgrano did it's dirty work.
@@mharg6408 You only have yourselves to blame because YOU LOT started it by invading the Falklands!
She was not fitted with Exocet mucker, it was the " Drummond class" corvettes in Task Group 79.1 that had the MM38, Belgrano was part of 79.3. ex F126 in the Falklands myself.
Apart from Mr Churchill, Mrs Thatcher was the best PM we have ever had.
Aw eff-off you sad Fascist slapper.
Herald Events and Films you're an idiot. Churchill and Thatcher fought fascists.
@@myoctobersymphony4446 You are a see you NT. Both were warmongers, albeit one of them serving a purpose before being shown two fingers when peace came. Thatcher led the hardest right-wing government the UK has ever had. She supported SA apartheid and was a neo-Fascist herself. No Pasran you see you NT.
@@heraldeventsandfilms5970 right, sure lol. No, she never supported apartheid, that's just another lie. She was no fascist.
@@myoctobersymphony4446 She called Nelson Mandela a terrorist and certainly did support the racist government of PW Botha. I assume you are either too young to remember, a revisionist liar or a crap computer program.
Thatcher was so smart. As an American, I am so thankful for her leadership in this hemisphere.
If it was during the Blair era he would have gave it back
You mean "away", not "back", because the Falklands have never belonged to Argentina.
The press would ask Churchill why did you sink the Bismarck.
The best the UK ever had....amazing woman !
Yeah, right.
@@heraldeventsandfilms5970 If UK had not had her it would now be like Zimbabwe...
Herald Events and Films yes they are right.
@@donsolaris8477 True, it doesn’t have hyper-inflation, but it’s about as corrupt.
@@markofsaltburn Agree...there are elements of corruption in every rich country, it is just more subtle than in a poorer country...
Even if it was sailing away, it was worth it. Lesson learnt.
the belgrano sunk was a master stroke the argie navy never left port for the rest of the war.th eargie aircraft carrier was the next target ,play with the lions tale get bit by the jaws
She was so direct and to the point - cunning and clever, sharp and ruthless ..... think she would have eaten Borris for breakfast had had Corbin shot a dawn ( 🤞🏻) She had her pro’s and cons obviously!
You sound like a lover of democracy 😂
@@PERCYxyz What's wrong with democracy
@@PERCYxyz you sound like a corrupt politician
@@sedricsaunders3480 Nothing - I was being sarcastic, in that anyone who would sanction the execution of the leader of an opposition party (as OP suggested Thatcher would), is in essence no better than a Stalinist dictator.
@@SonofForceUser You sound like an erudite sophisticate.
God bless you Lady T
There isn't a god unless you can prove otherwise.
The Iron Lady.
The witch 🧙
Useless old rust bucket you mean
A great Lady
She’d sort this Covid nonsense out if she was running the show..no doubt about it.. best PM ever
I feel she wouldn’t do much to help covid and think it to be not so bad. I wouldn’t call her the best because she did a lot of things that were pretty awful to the lower class. She did have her achievements but she would have a very outdated view on society if she ran the show today
Never mess with the Lions ;)
best PM ever
More Iron in Magaret Thatcher than an energy drink. She was a brilliant judge of talent, a great Lady, very ambitious, and most intelligent !
Such an interesting historical filigree was Maggie!
For all she got wrong, she got an awful lot right, the retake of the Falklands was absolutely necessary for Britain to have any sort of pride in itself. Let alone the actual legalities. On Belgrano specifically, she was correct - dreadful as it was to sink the cruiser. It was trying to bring about a pincer attack and take out a British carrier, which would have meant end of attempt to retake the islands. Horrible things have to be done during conflict.
0:40 Back when polls were honest.
It was the right decision. Naval forces constantly change direction in a war zone. Also this event sent the rest of the Argentine navy back to port which probably saved countless lives.
Captain Hector Bonzo - the captain of the Belgrano has said more than once that the British got it right. He was planning on button-hooking back into the exclusion zone to get shots at the British ships. He also agrees that strategically the British did the right thing. If his ship had not been sunk - he would have sunk British ships. That was his plan.
His interviews can be found on the internet quite easily if you Google his name.
what a prime minister,a bygone era when leaders were leaders
.madam,may you rest in peace.
🙄Quando sei in guerra, si affondano le navi
Non è un crimine di guerra
Almeno che non si debbano usare le fionde con le ghiande o l'arco con le frecce
L'Argentina poi affonderà lo "Sheffield"
And now you have Liberace ruling your nearest homeland
I liked the 1980s. Unwoke. Freedom.
She set an example for generations to come
mikeinchina......yes - one of SELF, SELF, SELF!
the only shame in this situation is the fact that it was the ex-USS Pheonix of all vessels, ship deserved to be a museum not a wreck
All that said .. Why does she alway's seem to have an evil presence about her ?
God bless her.
Unless you can prove otherwise there isn't a god.
True leadership on parade.... Life before twitter.
You didn't mess with the Iron Maiden
Not to mention the miners' future at stake.
Her voice tone is chilling
Franciuz I think it's soothing
Its the voice of authority
Why?....Argentina invaded UK territory....
This Prime Minister would destroy Trump in a debate ... speaks clearly, concisely something Trump cannot do.
Margaret Thatcher was intelligent, articulate and well prepared to talk about whatever the current issues were with facts and details. Trump is consistently lacking in all of these areas.
Considering Trump has the intellectual capacity of an angry 13 year old these comparisons are rather silly. I mean, you should be comparing her to a true peer if you really want to showcase how sharp she was.
My god what went wrong.
Firewood luv ok luv
Put it that way is the same to what the Japanese felt for the Liancourt Rocks, to what Argentines felt for the Falkland, same to Takeshima/Dokdo but to Argentina they know the Falklands as Malvinas.
This is excellent tv
Rip BOZO ,MAGGIE MOO
Burnett revealed to be unprepared and actually was Knocked out by a calm H. H. Thatcher. What a beating.
I watched twice just to see the Burnett make a fool of himself.
they keep mixing up "majority" with "plurality"
You can just imagine Burnett bending Maggie over the boardroom table after this with Cecil Parkinson cheering them on 😂..Poor old Dennis
7:26 me when McDonald’s say they’ve stopped McMuffins and it’s only 9:30am
"fun" fact no. A48272 (n sad situation).......In late 1977, Silvia Morella de Palma, who was then seven months pregnant, was airlifted to Esperanza Base, in order to complete her pregnancy in the base.[3] The airlift was a part of the Argentine solutions to the sovereignty dispute over territory in Antarctica. Emilio was automatically granted Argentine citizenship by the government since his parents were both Argentine citizens, and he was born in the claimed Argentine Antarctica. This is a sector of Antarctica claimed by Argentina as part of its national territory, although this claim is not internationally recognised and overlaps with British and Chilean claims.
UK Still voting conservative. Working out great😀😀😀
The The nurse
Answers here, from a Falklands War veteran: ruclips.net/video/sKkiZPjrsbE/видео.html
A perfect opportunity for the all saint's Church to comment on.
this fear of social democracy has gone on for far too long
🤢🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮
67 million now.
....yes, amazing how run away immigration can increase the population...
I believe she was talking about those eligible to vote. Today it stands at 56 million.
HONK
I’m not sure what she sunk quickest, the Belgrano or U.K. manufacturing. 🤔
Alan Watts she didn't sink manufacturing
It were the trade unions what did that.
Trade Unions sunk manufacturing in the uk, before she came in we were known as the sick man of Europe, strikes strikes strikes
I think your find the unions did the sinking for this country in the seventies, people have short memories, sick man of.europe remember
British manufacturing was sunk well before Thatcher was on the scene.
Thatcher was in the process of handing the islands to Argentina, hence the secret negotiations by Nicholas Ridley in 1980-81.
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Let's not forget that it was Thatcher's government's penny pinching incompetence which encouraged and allowed Argentina to invade in the first place.
What absolutely mindless drivel.
We could do with another Conservative government. The problems of the 1970s were caused by 30 years of socialism after the war. We've had nearly 30 years of it again since the 1990s including the current incumbents.
Unfortunately, we've never lived in a free market. And we've lived in a very socialist country since 1945. Thatcher simply made some minor, indeed overrated tweaks. And, if she hadn't, someone else would have, whether another Conservative or even a Labour Prime Minister. Indeed, while in the UK, the US and Canada it was the centre-right that enacted these reforms, in New Zealand and Australia it was the centre-left!
Whatever it is your drinking, I definitely want some!
we haven't been in socialism, socialism us much more direct. If u wanna see socialism go to China or Russia.
@@ay613 Socialism is a spectrum. The UK is very socialist and has been since 1945. I didn't say that the UK is as socialist as China.
@@YorickReturns We're a mixed economy so we may have more government intervention than lets say America but i still think socialism is strong as u said it's a spectrum so u may see it that way but i don't nonetheless i wouldn't want to see socialism or communism that's for sure.
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