Excellent video and history as always!! I've read all about the Little Boghorn battle, but there is obviously a great deal of individual heroism and suffering that I haven't heard about. I really enjoy your videos on the history and appreciate the work you do drilling down to such personal levels. Keep up the great work!!!
As always, good video and thanks for exploring some little known areas of history. I've read quite a bit about that battle, but had never heard of this artifact until now. Dorman must have been a courageous man.
Interesting video. Another story worth telling is the chain of custody of the scalp of Yellow/Hair taken by William F Cody a few weeks after the LBH battle.
Many Tsitsistas (Cheyenne people) at the Greasy Grass had lost family members at Sand Creek in 1864 & the Washita in 1868. Mutilating the enemy was retribution and punishment for soldiers who would remain lost forever in the afterlife. A soldier with his fingers cut off would Not be able to fire a weapon. A soldier with one leg could Not ride or run. Kate Big Head, a Cheyenne woman who was on the battlefield of the Little Bighorn, recalled seeing Lakotas cut off one of Custers fingers, and then 'puncture' Long Hair Custers eardrums with a sewing awl, so he would 'hear' better in the afterlife, as he had ignored warnings for years from Cheyenne leaders, who told him never to make war on them. The clashes of that day, were a culmination of years of suffering, loss of relatives and constant 'assaults' and 'winter campaigns' by the army on traditional Lakotas, Cheyennes and Arapahoes 🦅 🟥🟨⬛️⬜️ 🦅 🐎🐎🐎🐎🐎🐎🐎 📯🎺🧥🧥🧥🧥
Sand Creek was retribution for Indian raids where white families were killed, raped and mutilated by tribes in the area. The attacks were without provocation.
Thank you for this very interesting story. I can't remember the name or tribe of the Chief but had read they had tried to save Dorman as he was a friend of his, to no avail.
I have read that Sitting Bull said "don't kill that man" but in the confusion he was killed anyway. Like all things 'little Bighorn' not sure of how accurate that is, all the best
The story goes that a great great uncle of mine was the only English man to be killed in the battle, my late grandmother told me he wasn't actually in the battle but was camping in a field close by and went over to complain about the noise and was hit by a stray bullet! 😊
And Europeans had tobacco pouched and such made from Native American skin. One cannot look on these things without seeing both sides. It was brutal on both sides.
Dark and sad but understandable behavior on the part of the Indians as it was perhaps the largest genocide in human kinds modern history of an indigenous people pre ww2.
Does anyone know what rifle that is, that the Indian in the front row on the right is holding at 4:33? Why is its barrel so long? Never seen a rifle like that before.
@@wildwestfaces The photo you are using for Dorman was cropped from the 1874 Black Hills Expedition. There is no record of him been there. I would be interested to learn, how you are able to verify it's him?
@Mulskinner I was wondering that myself. If Dorman was hired in 1876, as it says in the video, how did he appear in a photo taken during the 1874 expedition?
I don't think it is, either. I've never heard him mentioned as being on the 1874 expedition, and have never seen him identified as being in this very well-known photo.
As an indigenous person and a fan of your channel. I'd really appreciate it if you would please explain why our women mutilated the dead. Thoes famous Indian fighters. They all waited for the men to be off hunting. When a village is full of women, children and elders. They earned their reputation as indian fighters. Butchering thoes defenseless.
The plan of the army was to capture women and children of the hostile tribes, this was supposedly a method to bring the hostile warriors onto the reservation with out too much blood shed, I guess many times the warrior's would have fought harder knowing that their women are children would be in danger. I don't think killing women and children was ever army policy, not to say that this was never done as we all know that it happened. I think the women mutilated the dead at the lbh as these men had just minutes before tried to kill them, and we know that they believed that a mutilated body would forever stay mutilated in the after life. Cheers
@@wildwestfaces Many Tsitsistas (Cheyenne people) at the Greasy Grass had lost family members at Sand Creek in 1864 & the Washita in 1868. Mutilating the enemy was retribution and punishment for soldiers who would remain lost forever in the afterlife. A soldier with his fingers cut off would Not be able to shoot. A soldier with one leg could Not ride or run. Kate Big Head, a Cheyenne woman who was on the battlefield of the Little Bighorn, recalled seeing Lakotas cut off one of Custers fingers, and then 'puncture' Long Hair Custers eardrums with a sewing awl, so he would 'hear' better in the afterlife, as he had ignored warnings for years from Cheyenne leaders, who told him never to make war on them. The horrors of that day, were a culmination of years of suffering, loss of relatives and constant 'assaults' and 'winter campaigns' by the army on traditional Lakotas, Cheyennes and Arapahoes 🦅 🟥🟨⬛️⬜️ 🦅 🫱🏽🫲🏼
My dad grew up as child had native lived on riverside near flandrew SD the old Indian was 9 at camp of the battle 2 days they went out to looking and left area .he teached my dad to shot a gun and hit game brids .dad was ship gunner 39 to 45😊.
@@wildwestfaces A great many Indian's @ battle were Reservation & exsposed to Soldier's & new there faces and uniform insignia's . Any book's or Video this detailed ?
There were no soldiers at Little Big Horn who had anything to do with the Sand Creek massacre. That was perpetrated in 1864 by a volunteer troop raised during the Civil War by a minister named Chivington, who named himself the commander, in Colorado; all volunteers and no regular Army. It was a purposeful massacre on a peaceful village. Chivington ordered his men to kill women and children, and they took body parts as trophies. That was a massacre. The 7th Cavalry was formed as a regular Army unit after the Civil War. When they attacked the village on the Washita, they had been guided there by Osage scouts following the trail in the snow made by a raiding party after attacking settlers in the Saline valley. Property belonging to the dead settlers, including the bloodstained mail pouch of a murdered courier, was found in the village. Black Kettle was apparently unable to control the young men of his village who needed to win honors in battle. Custer ordered his men to avoid shooting at non-combatants, intending to take them back to a reservation. 53 women and children were taken hostage and given horses to ride back with the cavalry. Not the definition of a massacre.
@@bradbastian7135 You can find details on all known individuals at the battle of Little Big Horn in Frederic C Wagner's book Participants in the Battle of the Little Big Horn, published by McFarland Press a few years ago. Fred was a former Army officer in Vietnam and a dedicated researcher and student of the Battle.
Thank you for the time and effort you put into this so that folks like Isaiah Dorman are not forgotten and are remembered.
Thank you Sir, much appreciated
Thank you for the history lesson, I learn so much from these videos.
Thank you my friend, cheers 👍
Excellent video and history as always!! I've read all about the Little Boghorn battle, but there is obviously a great deal of individual heroism and suffering that I haven't heard about. I really enjoy your videos on the history and appreciate the work you do drilling down to such personal levels.
Keep up the great work!!!
Thank you, yes, it's one battle that is always so interesting, I love reading anything about it, cheers👍
The Museum should display the tank from those 3 National Guardsmen who were in that Twilight Zone episode.
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Yeah and Warren Oates
Excellent episode, interesting, informative and enjoyable.
Subscribed.
Excellent !! Cheers
As always, good video and thanks for exploring some little known areas of history. I've read quite a bit about that battle, but had never heard of this artifact until now. Dorman must have been a courageous man.
Definitely, thank you !! Cheers
Interesting video. Another story worth telling is the chain of custody of the scalp of Yellow/Hair taken by William F Cody a few weeks after the LBH battle.
Excellent, we will do this, thank you
Many Tsitsistas (Cheyenne people) at the Greasy Grass had lost family members at Sand Creek in 1864 & the Washita in 1868. Mutilating the enemy was retribution and punishment for soldiers who would remain lost forever in the afterlife. A soldier with his fingers cut off would Not be able to fire a weapon. A soldier with one leg could Not ride or run. Kate Big Head, a Cheyenne woman who was on the battlefield of the Little Bighorn, recalled seeing Lakotas cut off one of Custers fingers, and then 'puncture' Long Hair Custers eardrums with a sewing awl, so he would 'hear' better in the afterlife, as he had ignored warnings for years from Cheyenne leaders, who told him never to make war on them. The clashes of that day, were a culmination of years of suffering, loss of relatives and constant 'assaults' and 'winter campaigns' by the army on traditional Lakotas, Cheyennes and Arapahoes 🦅 🟥🟨⬛️⬜️ 🦅 🐎🐎🐎🐎🐎🐎🐎 📯🎺🧥🧥🧥🧥
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What would you expect? These Guys were defending their traditionalister way if life, and the US army were simply aggressors.
Sand Creek was retribution for Indian raids where white families were killed, raped and mutilated by tribes in the area. The attacks were without provocation.
Usual, this was amazing. Great job.
Thank you !!
Thank you for this very interesting story. I can't remember the name or tribe of the Chief but had read they had tried to save Dorman as he was a friend of his, to no avail.
I have read that Sitting Bull said "don't kill that man" but in the confusion he was killed anyway. Like all things 'little Bighorn' not sure of how accurate that is, all the best
@@wildwestfacesI read that too.
The best youtube Chanel i know, thax 🙏
Peter, Sweden.
Excellent ! Much appreciated, thank you !!
Where do you find all these great pics? As a history buff I enjoy seeing the pictures of my ancestors I've never seen before.
I have collected every photo I could for years ! Cheers
Always very interesting thank you.
Thank you !! Cheers
The story goes that a great great uncle of mine was the only English man to be killed in the battle, my late grandmother told me he wasn't actually in the battle but was camping in a field close by and went over to complain about the noise and was hit by a stray bullet! 😊
👍 😁 cheers
And Europeans had tobacco pouched and such made from Native American skin. One cannot look on these things without seeing both sides. It was brutal on both sides.
Definitely ! Not being one sided here, cheers
you have to admit they do drink good.
Dark and sad but understandable behavior on the part of the Indians as it was perhaps the largest genocide in human kinds modern history of an indigenous people pre ww2.
Cheers
@wildwestfaces your channel is excellent. Keep up the good works. Objective, unbiased, and extremely insightful, thank you for taking the trouble
increadable story such a turbulent time history.
Definitely 👍 cheers
Does anyone know what rifle that is, that the Indian in the front row on the right is holding at 4:33? Why is its barrel so long? Never seen a rifle like that before.
The photograph was taken in the 1930s so I believe it would be a under and over shotgun, cheers
thank you 🙏🙏🙏🙏
Thank you !!
1:02 is almost certainly not Dorman in the photograph.
Cheers, but you will stand corrected, 👍
@@wildwestfaces The photo you are using for Dorman was cropped from the 1874 Black Hills Expedition. There is no record of him been there. I would be interested to learn, how you are able to verify it's him?
@Mulskinner I was wondering that myself. If Dorman was hired in 1876, as it says in the video, how did he appear in a photo taken during the 1874 expedition?
I don't think it is, either. I've never heard him mentioned as being on the 1874 expedition, and have never seen him identified as being in this very well-known photo.
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We can’t judge their actions by present day standards.
Exactly, they had a totally different approach to war than the white man, cheers
As an indigenous person and a fan of your channel. I'd really appreciate it if you would please explain why our women mutilated the dead.
Thoes famous Indian fighters. They all waited for the men to be off hunting. When a village is full of women, children and elders. They earned their reputation as indian fighters. Butchering thoes defenseless.
The plan of the army was to capture women and children of the hostile tribes, this was supposedly a method to bring the hostile warriors onto the reservation with out too much blood shed, I guess many times the warrior's would have fought harder knowing that their women are children would be in danger. I don't think killing women and children was ever army policy, not to say that this was never done as we all know that it happened. I think the women mutilated the dead at the lbh as these men had just minutes before tried to kill them, and we know that they believed that a mutilated body would forever stay mutilated in the after life.
Cheers
@@wildwestfaces Many Tsitsistas (Cheyenne people) at the Greasy Grass had lost family members at Sand Creek in 1864 & the Washita in 1868. Mutilating the enemy was retribution and punishment for soldiers who would remain lost forever in the afterlife. A soldier with his fingers cut off would Not be able to shoot. A soldier with one leg could Not ride or run. Kate Big Head, a Cheyenne woman who was on the battlefield of the Little Bighorn, recalled seeing Lakotas cut off one of Custers fingers, and then 'puncture' Long Hair Custers eardrums with a sewing awl, so he would 'hear' better in the afterlife, as he had ignored warnings for years from Cheyenne leaders, who told him never to make war on them. The horrors of that day, were a culmination of years of suffering, loss of relatives and constant 'assaults' and 'winter campaigns' by the army on traditional Lakotas, Cheyennes and Arapahoes 🦅 🟥🟨⬛️⬜️ 🦅 🫱🏽🫲🏼
The Indian women also tortured those, white and Indian , that were unfortunate enough to be captured
Batalha ou massacre ?
Personally I would say a battle, cheers
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My dad grew up as child had native lived on riverside near flandrew SD the old Indian was 9 at camp of the battle 2 days they went out to looking and left area .he teached my dad to shot a gun and hit game brids .dad was ship gunner 39 to 45😊.
👍 excellent, thank you for sharing this interesting information, your dad sounds like a great man, cheers
Not exactly told in a Southern Drawl, I feel like a just took a ride in a F16 after that...
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I often wonder how much personal retrabution was had on Soldier's who commited rape murder of women & children in the past ??? Washita Sand Creek.
I think battle would have been to chaotic to seek out individuals but you never know ! Cheers
@@wildwestfaces A great many Indian's @ battle were Reservation & exsposed to Soldier's & new there faces and uniform insignia's . Any book's or Video this detailed ?
There were no soldiers at Little Big Horn who had anything to do with the Sand Creek massacre. That was perpetrated in 1864 by a volunteer troop raised during the Civil War by a minister named Chivington, who named himself the commander, in Colorado; all volunteers and no regular Army. It was a purposeful massacre on a peaceful village. Chivington ordered his men to kill women and children, and they took body parts as trophies. That was a massacre.
The 7th Cavalry was formed as a regular Army unit after the Civil War. When they attacked the village on the Washita, they had been guided there by Osage scouts following the trail in the snow made by a raiding party after attacking settlers in the Saline valley. Property belonging to the dead settlers, including the bloodstained mail pouch of a murdered courier, was found in the village. Black Kettle was apparently unable to control the young men of his village who needed to win honors in battle. Custer ordered his men to avoid shooting at non-combatants, intending to take them back to a reservation. 53 women and children were taken hostage and given horses to ride back with the cavalry. Not the definition of a massacre.
@@bradbastian7135 You can find details on all known individuals at the battle of Little Big Horn in Frederic C Wagner's book Participants in the Battle of the Little Big Horn, published by McFarland Press a few years ago. Fred was a former Army officer in Vietnam and a dedicated researcher and student of the Battle.
@@retriever19golden55 Thank You going to Library
I'm glad the White eyes lost the Battle they had no right to force
Native Americans off their land, I'm 25% Native American myself
of the Apache tribe
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