Nice! I think Maxon should do an Architect modelling layout! Modelling tools like Sketchup (Smart Extrude - Pushpull) and AutoCAD (Lines) with an option to enter the value of the line size, an option for locking in the axis and direction of the drawing by pressing a shortcut. That would be very nice!
Well, they implemented grid fill which is in blender for a long time and at least I was waiting for. Seems that they're trying to catch up the other 3D tools because they were behind for a lot Maybe it took so much time for their developers when changed the c4d core to be fully modular. (I'm talking about the "fields" stuff)
Adding ZBrush to Maxon One without an increase in the sub was a great thing also! And another small but good change was adding an extra decimal digit to numerical entries (eg. 0.001 to 0.0001).
CPU core is getting better and faster and cheaper. so this Redshift addition made me sooo happy after so long stuck with Physical. i need that accurate GI ^^
I truly appreciate Dimitri's videos. He shows exactly how something works rather than just blabbering throughout the video and showing graphs upon graphs of things like other youtubers. Keep it up buddy.
This is all Maxon can do in one whole fuckin' year. It's embarrassing, it really is. A poly patch tool, some bridge tools they stole from ZBrush, retopo they stole from ZBrush, some native RedShift stuff (at least a plus), rope and a handful of other shite updates. With the money they have, the release could have featured many needed updates to lots of very shit and very dated aspects of C4D.
Definitely a thumbs up release! I was prepared to skip this one but CPU Redshift is good enough of a reason for me to try it. I do a ton of modelling in C4D so I already got a bunch of tools and scripts to help me out but it's nice to see some improvements there as well. And simulations are always fun to play around with even though it feels like a mix of the old and new system seeing how you have to add a collider of the new system to rigid bodies of the old system.
It seems like cloth and remeshing are both zbrush tech integrated into c4d. Modeling features are nice but standard in other software for years. Hard to be excited about this release when you rcompetition is Houdini, Maya and Blender.
Been using Maxon for 10 years, but it’s really a time to switch. It no longer offers any edge over the competitors and some of those are free. I really don’t understand what you guys are working on.
@@visual_chris I just don't have a reason to use Cinema anymore, other than the fact we've been using it for so long. Modelling tools are better in Blender, simulations in Houdini, texturing in Substance, rendering in Unreal. What does Cinema offer anymore, that will make customers stay I have no clue. It's not to say Cinema can't do all those things, it's just that everything is either better or quicker elsewhere now.
@@ThisNicknameWasTakenYearsAgo fr very true.. only thing that is gonna save some of their customers for them is Redshift integration but thats not a major selling point with both cycles and octane getting better
@@visual_chris Well even redshift will be replaced with Unreal I think. It may not offer that level of quality just yet, but the responsiveness is on another level. Even my current project I was going to render with Redshift, but the amount of detail took forever to load on redshift. I once again had to move to UE to be able to work at speed. I also don't need to worry about spending a day to render a 60s sequence or additional costs and joys of render farms.
@@ThisNicknameWasTakenYearsAgo switching from c4d/redshift to Unreal was the best decision i ever made! Sometimes I miss c4d tho, but unreal does what i need and quicker
If you're using unreal I think you'll be more than fine. Cinema is a relatively easy application to get into. Of course you will hit some roadblocks but overall I think you won't have any big issues.
I repeat all the settings as in your video, but my fabric always goes down and never up, and looks totally different in general. What could be a reason? Thanks for advice
nice that it has more options for tearing but too bad the workflow is still the same, like collapsing the geo first is a big workflow setback. would also help if we could use fields to set connect points
have they fixed the split polygon tool? where in unnecessarily duplicate all the children... do they now have override child selection? where i can click on a car and move it without selecting just the roof move it then realize its not an instance, undo, find it in the outliner, select the parent then move it for the 10th time. Do they have true symmetry that doesnt distroy the uv? and proper way to straighten uv quads
Great. but still I wish if it has fluid simulation and fire simulation in it. that we don't have 3rd party softwares plugings etc for do simulations like that. I really wish if it has a Phoenix FD type simulation stuff in it. so we can do so much realistic ocean simulation and explosion...how ever Cinema is my favorite 3D software I have been using it since 2005 at the time I was 15. but every time if I have to do simulation I have to go maya, 3dx max, blender, houdini, realflow, etc... so I have to learn lots of other software that I don't use in daily and keep it in my memory.
would Maxon lower the price? , the subscription prices can be suitable for studios , but NOT "very" for ( freelancers / individuals ) .. those who do Not make enough a Big chunk of maxon users are freelancers so maxon should consider this soon , hope so
now cinema 4d is starting to wake up, I changed it for blender some years ago, but its good to know that it is starting to implement interesting things, its real that they implemented the zremesher into it? how it is?
I would even say it’s better in c4d then in zbrush. Zremesher was one of the only tools I use in zbrush and the new one is more flexible and way faster
If you need an example in bad marketing/branding then look no further. Just look at how it still confuses people if it's S26 or R26. And why is it not explicitly mentioned anywhere on the release event that Redshift CPU is now included in C4D and will probably replace Physical, I will never know. Either : A. They're incompetent at their job. B. They did it knowingly because they're somehow afraid of loosing RS subscribers. And I don't know which one is worse.
good to see the simulation is being developed in cinema 4d a 1 step from a 1000 to integrate "Marvelous Designer" into c4d one thing tho , would Maxon lower the price? , the subscription prices can be suitable for studios , but NOT "very" for ( freelancers / individuals ) .. those who do Not make enough a Big chunk of maxon users are freelancers so maxon should consider this soon , hope so
UpDate: Honestly and personally I think this realease is truly boring. 😒👀👀 Well a month ago I closed my eye and decided to pay for the new version and Well it's TOTALLY WORTH IT. I mean yes the update is boring but I'll pick this version any day over the "overhaul 👀" in R25 Dammm Everything just works 🤣🤣 I did not belive my self when I subconsiously told myself that I'll do the cloth simulation in c4d WHEN I have MD5. SOo damm reliable now. I understand now why people love the iPhone "Still not buying one though" or Care so much about Defaults: Everything Just fucking Works ❤. I'll really love some xpresso Update and probably more focus on the "nodes" and USD part of things like MAY* EHEMM. Probably better simulations in stuff like fire and smoke but little worries I am always using blender or houdiini for those.
@@marvelousdecay Everything that is considered an update here can either be achieved in previous versions with free plugins or is just a prosumer simplification of tools that already existed.
C4D is still just for motion artist. Anyone who does larger projects or complex modeling will have to face a slow, complicate workflow, that hasn’t changed for years.
I've been using it as a gamedev environment and prop artist for years and it's been fantastic so far in terms of speed and features. The one weak spot was UV editing but it's been mostly solved with recent releases.
this is fine for sharing files and makes the c4d more compatible. I get what you are saying most people have gpu cards anyway...so not really a huge innovation but still needed to be done...now if it can render with cpu and gpu at the same time that would be great. Distributed rendering is still very cool concept developed by Vray and Corona. They had this option in Team render also so curious if this works with red shift CPU.. for people with extra CPU render nodes this would be very cool!
@@xpez9694 mmmm pero va muyyyy lento, mas lento que el Arnold que trabaja en cpu!!! hay manera de seguir trabajando con la version GPU, por que en la version 26, el rs 3.5 se vuelve inviable para seguir trabajando con el. :( totalmente fan dl c4d y del el redshift, pero esto va teniendo muy mala pinta en las primeras pruebas que hago.
@@JHSaxa mmm maybe... but if the are working on cpu... the RTX still working? for me in Mac it was almost ok, but today I make some test and is by a lot, slower than the 3.0 v...
@@tiosolo7525 CPU is for convenience - so RS can work anywhere. But for speed, GPU and RTX rendering is *much* faster: 30 seconds GPU vs 7 minutes CPU in one example I've seen. You can now use CPU+GPU but that's slower than GPU only.
9HOLY SHIT POINTS TO CIRCLE ITS BEEN WAY TOO LONG FOR THIS FEATURE TO GET ADDED FINALLYYYYYYYYYY actually useful modeling features?????? damn they are starting to wake up
Hace años trabajó con c4d, ya el año pasado fue una gran decepción que después de comprar la licencia de redshift, cambiaran a modelo de suscripción, después de haber comprado algo te cambian las reglas del juego… y ahora de nuevo después de invertir en gpu, cambian a cpu para hacerlo más lento wtf 🤬?
la gente que compró la licencia redshift puede trabajar con cpu o gpu los que no la tienen solo pueden trabajar con el cpu en redshift o sea para ti no te cambia nada
@@skychulla7600 ufff va muy lento el render en la v 26 con el RS 3,5; si lo uso con houdini es la version gpu o cpu? por que esto estaría siendo una gran motivación para irme al Houdini definitivamente... por mucho que me cueste jajaja gracias!
thumbs down because c4d devs do nothing. just few modelling scrips. there still some of missing icons. zremesher do zbrush team. cloth also lisenced thing. redshift done by redshift theam. so c4d team just do few integrations and few modeling scripts. redshfit team do much more work than cinema 4d team.
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The full version of Redshift should be included in C4D.
Nice! I think Maxon should do an Architect modelling layout! Modelling tools like Sketchup (Smart Extrude - Pushpull) and AutoCAD (Lines) with an option to enter the value of the line size, an option for locking in the axis and direction of the drawing by pressing a shortcut. That would be very nice!
this would be everything
Agree.
Well, they implemented grid fill which is in blender for a long time and at least I was waiting for.
Seems that they're trying to catch up the other 3D tools because they were behind for a lot
Maybe it took so much time for their developers when changed the c4d core to be fully modular. (I'm talking about the "fields" stuff)
Adding ZBrush to Maxon One without an increase in the sub was a great thing also! And another small but good change was adding an extra decimal digit to numerical entries (eg. 0.001 to 0.0001).
Good point. I was certainly expecting a price increase. Now Maxon One is turning out to be a good value for money.
Thank you Dimitris! (R27- new riggid body systems and fluid systems)
Wow
The modeling features are amazing ! 👍
Point to circle! finally? tooooo late maxon but thank you 🤭
Oh fuck what a nice nostalgic feeling back to 2012 when every other 3d software had these options. Good to see you here buddy!
lmao i know they are behind
CPU core is getting better and faster and cheaper. so this Redshift addition made me sooo happy after so long stuck with Physical. i need that accurate GI ^^
thumbs up release. The bridge and fill hole tool have been improved immensely. Good job Dimitris
I truly appreciate Dimitri's videos. He shows exactly how something works rather than just blabbering throughout the video and showing graphs upon graphs of things like other youtubers. Keep it up buddy.
Dimitris, my vote? An uncaveated thumbs up. A BIG release for Maxon and Community. Thanks for your review/update. Keep up the good work.
I expect with the combo of the summer/fall release that the 2022 version of Cinema will be an overall solid release.
its kind of a minor release more? would have like more nodes incorperated stuff in there
This is all Maxon can do in one whole fuckin' year. It's embarrassing, it really is.
A poly patch tool, some bridge tools they stole from ZBrush, retopo they stole from ZBrush, some native RedShift stuff (at least a plus), rope and a handful of other shite updates.
With the money they have, the release could have featured many needed updates to lots of very shit and very dated aspects of C4D.
Definitely a thumbs up release! I was prepared to skip this one but CPU Redshift is good enough of a reason for me to try it. I do a ton of modelling in C4D so I already got a bunch of tools and scripts to help me out but it's nice to see some improvements there as well. And simulations are always fun to play around with even though it feels like a mix of the old and new system seeing how you have to add a collider of the new system to rigid bodies of the old system.
I love that liquidy / feathery fur like image on the title lock-up - how was that done?
What’s the difference between S26 and R26? They seem to be mentioned interchangeably here
There's no difference. I just misspoke. Whenever you hear R26 just think of S26. :D
It seems like cloth and remeshing are both zbrush tech integrated into c4d. Modeling features are nice but standard in other software for years. Hard to be excited about this release when you rcompetition is Houdini, Maya and Blender.
alright! I like that redshift move.
Please fix the icons, add a revert to the R21 icons.
aww man, you didn't make a c4d 2023 first look? loved this one.
Been using Maxon for 10 years, but it’s really a time to switch. It no longer offers any edge over the competitors and some of those are free. I really don’t understand what you guys are working on.
Fr .. everything they are doing rn is trying to become blender .. might as well just use free blender then
@@visual_chris I just don't have a reason to use Cinema anymore, other than the fact we've been using it for so long. Modelling tools are better in Blender, simulations in Houdini, texturing in Substance, rendering in Unreal. What does Cinema offer anymore, that will make customers stay I have no clue. It's not to say Cinema can't do all those things, it's just that everything is either better or quicker elsewhere now.
@@ThisNicknameWasTakenYearsAgo fr very true.. only thing that is gonna save some of their customers for them is Redshift integration but thats not a major selling point with both cycles and octane getting better
@@visual_chris Well even redshift will be replaced with Unreal I think. It may not offer that level of quality just yet, but the responsiveness is on another level. Even my current project I was going to render with Redshift, but the amount of detail took forever to load on redshift. I once again had to move to UE to be able to work at speed. I also don't need to worry about spending a day to render a 60s sequence or additional costs and joys of render farms.
@@ThisNicknameWasTakenYearsAgo switching from c4d/redshift to Unreal was the best decision i ever made! Sometimes I miss c4d tho, but unreal does what i need and quicker
Nice, the new simulation tools are a game changer
I really want to get started with 3D animation. I use after effects & unreal engine. How is C4D's learning curve?
If you're using unreal I think you'll be more than fine. Cinema is a relatively easy application to get into. Of course you will hit some roadblocks but overall I think you won't have any big issues.
This update is absolutely fantastic.
How fast is the cloth solver?
9:29 I don’t understand what he says there, I hear “pope command”, can anyone help me?
Oh, “poke” command I hear now, would have loved to see if there are options for it…
I repeat all the settings as in your video, but my fabric always goes down and never up, and looks totally different in general. What could be a reason? Thanks for advice
You could be using different dimensions for the fabric or different gravity settings.
nice that it has more options for tearing but too bad the workflow is still the same, like collapsing the geo first is a big workflow setback. would also help if we could use fields to set connect points
Thank you very much for showing us the tools of this great program
Glad it was helpful!
Is it looks like Blender ?
Will all plugins break on this version?
I don't believe so. I don't think there were any changes to the SDK so everything should work as expected
have they fixed the split polygon tool? where in unnecessarily duplicate all the children... do they now have override child selection? where i can click on a car and move it without selecting just the roof move it then realize its not an instance, undo, find it in the outliner, select the parent then move it for the 10th time. Do they have true symmetry that doesnt distroy the uv? and proper way to straighten uv quads
Great. but still I wish if it has fluid simulation and fire simulation in it. that we don't have 3rd party softwares plugings etc for do simulations like that. I really wish if it has a Phoenix FD type simulation stuff in it. so we can do so much realistic ocean simulation and explosion...how ever Cinema is my favorite 3D software I have been using it since 2005 at the time I was 15. but every time if I have to do simulation I have to go maya, 3dx max, blender, houdini, realflow, etc... so I have to learn lots of other software that I don't use in daily and keep it in my memory.
would Maxon lower the price? , the subscription prices can be suitable for studios ,
but NOT "very" for ( freelancers / individuals ) .. those who do Not make enough
a Big chunk of maxon users are freelancers so maxon should consider this soon , hope so
Is this update not for perpetual owners too?
The one coming in September will be the release for the perpetual users. Of course it’ll include these updates as well.
@@marvelousdecay thanks for replying and just for that you’ve earn my subscription!
Is it Cinema 4d? Looks like Blender 3d
Thnx and need some more
Closing the geometry must be a game changer, Blender is shivering. 😒
and still no F- Snap system update !!!!!!
Amazing 🤩 thank you for your sharing.
My pleasure!
I love r26
now cinema 4d is starting to wake up, I changed it for blender some years ago, but its good to know that it is starting to implement interesting things, its real that they implemented the zremesher into it? how it is?
It's fine but for some reason I still prefer using Zbrush for it. Can't teach an old dog new tricks I guess. :D
Small changes but at least for me great time savers. You forgot to mention the zremesher which really works great and is an awesome addition.
I would even say it’s better in c4d then in zbrush. Zremesher was one of the only tools I use in zbrush and the new one is more flexible and way faster
Interesting. For some reason I prefer using it in Zbrush but I can see why most people would prefer having it in Cinema.
why do people put music behind the talking...c'mon.
How did you make video so fast? :D Well done magic
If you need an example in bad marketing/branding then look no further. Just look at how it still confuses people if it's S26 or R26.
And why is it not explicitly mentioned anywhere on the release event that Redshift CPU is now included in C4D and will probably replace Physical, I will never know.
Either :
A. They're incompetent at their job.
B. They did it knowingly because they're somehow afraid of loosing RS subscribers.
And I don't know which one is worse.
rendering department has been disappointment since forever, that redshift move made this the most happiest release for me ever lol.
Thank you so much for detailed review!
You’re welcome!
good to see the simulation is being developed in cinema 4d
a 1 step from a 1000 to integrate "Marvelous Designer" into c4d
one thing tho , would Maxon lower the price? , the subscription prices can be suitable for studios ,
but NOT "very" for ( freelancers / individuals ) .. those who do Not make enough
a Big chunk of maxon users are freelancers so maxon should consider this soon , hope so
jaaawn...another dissapointing update from maxon.
No offense here but would you please show me something WOW in this release Blender cannot do. 11 minutes just for cloth simulation??
UpDate: Honestly and personally I think this realease is truly boring. 😒👀👀
Well a month ago I closed my eye and decided to pay for the new version and Well it's TOTALLY WORTH IT. I mean yes the update is boring but I'll pick this version any day over the "overhaul 👀" in R25 Dammm Everything just works 🤣🤣 I did not belive my self when I subconsiously told myself that I'll do the cloth simulation in c4d WHEN I have MD5. SOo damm reliable now.
I understand now why people love the iPhone "Still not buying one though" or Care so much about Defaults: Everything Just fucking Works ❤.
I'll really love some xpresso Update and probably more focus on the "nodes" and USD part of things like MAY* EHEMM. Probably better simulations in stuff like fire and smoke but little worries I am always using blender or houdiini for those.
What would you have liked to see? More modelling stuff or something else?
@@marvelousdecay Everything that is considered an update here can either be achieved in previous versions with free plugins or is just a prosumer simplification of tools that already existed.
Funny how maxon is trying to become blender so bad
Finally some Real improvements, although Still way too much to cover
i also have S26
I'm currently sat watching Redshift for C4D thrash the hell out of my GPU. Not CPU, GPU.
C4D is still just for motion artist. Anyone who does larger projects or complex modeling will have to face a slow, complicate workflow, that hasn’t changed for years.
I've been using it as a gamedev environment and prop artist for years and it's been fantastic so far in terms of speed and features. The one weak spot was UV editing but it's been mostly solved with recent releases.
First look at new Blender 2.6… Oh, wait!
Houdini users just be laughing at those cloth sims. Vellum looked 10x better when it was introdued 3.5 years ago.
που σε πατριώτη τι κανανε πάλι οι τρελοι του MAXON
Hmm $719/yr or $0/yr. Someone help me pick.
Slower redshift? But why? We want it working faster on M1! Could I do a downgrade?
this is fine for sharing files and makes the c4d more compatible. I get what you are saying most people have gpu cards anyway...so not really a huge innovation but still needed to be done...now if it can render with cpu and gpu at the same time that would be great. Distributed rendering is still very cool concept developed by Vray and Corona. They had this option in Team render also so curious if this works with red shift CPU.. for people with extra CPU render nodes this would be very cool!
@@xpez9694 mmmm pero va muyyyy lento, mas lento que el Arnold que trabaja en cpu!!! hay manera de seguir trabajando con la version GPU, por que en la version 26, el rs 3.5 se vuelve inviable para seguir trabajando con el. :( totalmente fan dl c4d y del el redshift, pero esto va teniendo muy mala pinta en las primeras pruebas que hago.
M1 is not the way to go for speed. Sorry but it's true. Go PC RTX for that.
@@JHSaxa mmm maybe... but if the are working on cpu... the RTX still working? for me in Mac it was almost ok, but today I make some test and is by a lot, slower than the 3.0 v...
@@tiosolo7525 CPU is for convenience - so RS can work anywhere. But for speed, GPU and RTX rendering is *much* faster: 30 seconds GPU vs 7 minutes CPU in one example I've seen. You can now use CPU+GPU but that's slower than GPU only.
9HOLY SHIT POINTS TO CIRCLE ITS BEEN WAY TOO LONG FOR THIS FEATURE TO GET ADDED FINALLYYYYYYYYYY
actually useful modeling features?????? damn they are starting to wake up
Hace años trabajó con c4d, ya el año pasado fue una gran decepción que después de comprar la licencia de redshift, cambiaran a modelo de suscripción, después de haber comprado algo te cambian las reglas del juego… y ahora de nuevo después de invertir en gpu, cambian a cpu para hacerlo más lento wtf 🤬?
la gente que compró la licencia redshift puede trabajar con cpu o gpu los que no la tienen solo pueden trabajar con el cpu en redshift o sea para ti no te cambia nada
@@skychulla7600 genial Gracias por la info, de esa parte no me había enterado!
@@skychulla7600 como se si estoy usando la gpu o la cpu, por que es muy lento el render ahora, como deshabilito cpu?
graces!!
@@skychulla7600 ufff va muy lento el render en la v 26 con el RS 3,5; si lo uso con houdini es la version gpu o cpu? por que esto estaría siendo una gran motivación para irme al Houdini definitivamente... por mucho que me cueste jajaja gracias!
@@tiosolo7525 My God, just look in the render settings which device is enabled.
Nothing worth upgrading just this instant.
modeling has one 'l"
It depends really. US has one l, UK has 2
thumbs down because c4d devs do nothing. just few modelling scrips. there still some of missing icons. zremesher do zbrush team. cloth also lisenced thing. redshift done by redshift theam. so c4d team just do few integrations and few modeling scripts. redshfit team do much more work than cinema 4d team.
really？just it?????????
Looks like Maxon got SyFlex Plugin for Cloth and soft Body ....Basically They just buying Plugins out and not really creating like Blender ... sad
expensive and poly limited
worst cinema 4d ui ever