Add A Tachometer To Any OBS Ford
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- Опубликовано: 24 авг 2024
- FULL DISCLOSURE: IF YOU DECIDE TO DO THIS MODIFICATION TO YOUR OWN TRUCK MAKE SURE YOU GET A GAUGE CLUSTER THAT MATCHES THE SAME YEAR OF YOUR VEHICLE. THERE WERE CHANGES TO THE WIRING ACROSS THE YEARS. FAILURE TO DO SO CAN RESULT IN YOUR VEHICLE NOT CHARGING PROPERLY AS WELL AS DISRUPT THE ABS SYSTEM.
!!!!DO THIS MODIFICATION AT YOUR OWN RISK!!!!
If I had known it was this easy to add a tachometer to my truck I would have done this YEARS AGO!!! I'm especially glad that I didn't just go and buy a aftermarket tach. in the past that would've required me to drill into my dashboard. Even though I installed the tachometer gauge cluster in my 1994 truck without any issues I made the mistake of buying a gauge cluster that wasn’t the correct year (I purchased a 1992 gauge cluster) which resulted in the alternator to not charge properly, and left me stranded on the side of the road. Instead of hunting down another tach. gauge cluster somewhere I ended up going back to the gauge cluster that was originally in my vehicle to start off with. I still wanted to leave this video posted because this modification does work, but take it from me you have to be EXTRA CAREFUL to find the right year gauge cluster. Ford changed the wiring for the gauge clusters in the middle of the production years, so someone might think they’re buying the same year cluster when in reality they’re a couple of months off. If you're thinking of doing this to your own truck and you have any questions or concerns let me know down in the comment section below and I'd be happy to help you out. Thanks for watching!
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4:28 must be nice to be able to grow an extra arm on command, really comes in handy.
It’s one of my talents😄
Doesn’t get much easier than that! Kinda weird how so many manufacturers in the ‘90s came down with “tach delete fever” lol. A full set of gauges makes the truck look so much more complete. Well done!
Pretty simple! I wish I knew what I know now 3 years ago🤣! My guess is that Ford tried to save a buck or two, but I agree it really completes the truck!👍
Great video, after watching I went and found one at my junk yard for $35 and installed it. Best part is I took my other one back to the junk yard and got my money back so mine was basically free. Love having the tachometer. It also bothered me that my truck didn’t have one.
That’s awesome! I’m so glad to hear this video was able to help you out! The fact that you swapped it out for free is a truly a great deal. Thanks for watching!
Don't throw anything away. Put online and sell it. There is always somebody out there that my need it.
That’s really good advice! They definitely aren’t making these parts anymore.
Cody and YDOC,
Best in the land.
I kinda freaked out
When I saw the fourth hand.
My radio broke.
I did the same trick.
Found an old take out.
It worked really slick.
Glad you are back.
We miss you a lot.
Same time, sAme channel,
And in the sAme spot.
Thanks for the fun! :-)
Mark Randall Hahaha That was fantastic as always🤣!
I just did this to mine. Now the ABS is on. Going to run the scanner on that and see what's going on. Also, I cracked up when I saw the third hand pop in there. I was like what the heck?
When it comes to changing out these gauge clusters you’ve gotta make sure that it’s the same year as your truck. Otherwise it opens the door to problems. Read the description of the video to find out why😀👍. Ya I had a little help swapping out all those parts LOL🤣
I’d also recommend you read the article below because it does a great job explaining everything😀👍
www.ford-trucks.com/articles/installing-an-oem-tachometer-in-a-1992-1996-f-150-or-bronco/
Well I'll be dipped, something easy on a newer Ford.
Thanks for sharing.
JT Thill Thanks for watching!😀👍
Thanks man, appreciate the tutorial, went and picked one up at a junkyard for $50, cleaned it up. Looks pretty brand “new” for its age. Works smooth.
Great to hear! Was it a gauge cluster the same year as your truck?
@@ydocproductions5593 yeah that’s the thing I just read the description and didn’t check. But I do believe I did caught a glimpse of the year and do believe it’s for a 97
@@albertfuentes552 Right on, good to hear👍
Perfect , going through the same thing with my 93. Also it helped me fix my 'lazy' gear cable.
I’m so glad to hear that! Just make sure if you do this swap that you get a gauge cluster the same year as your truck, otherwise it won’t charge properly. Thanks for watching😀👍
You need to make sure the cluster you swap is within the adjacent year of your truck ... or the alternator will not charge your battery
That’s absolutely true!👍
Just spent "days" "here". Many trips to the parts store for alternators. Careful with LED light swaps too ... might not provide the right resistance on the "charge system" circuit to "excite" the alternator. Was a "long class". Lol
Bro just saved me so much time and money. now off to a yard here soon lol. Great and informative video, man. Hope you still got the truck.
I’m glad the video was helpful! Just make sure you get a gauge cluster that is the same year as the truck. otherwise your truck won’t charge properly. Best of luck with your swap😀👍
I did this on my 1992 E-350 many years ago. However, when you install an F series cluster in an E series you have to redo many of the wires as the wiring harnesses are a little different. Basically I'd just trace out the wires and where'd they do and just pull the pins out of the harness and rearrange them on my harness.
That's wonderful that guy has 4 hands
Comes in handy when needed🤣
Did this to my '92 f150 a few years back. Very easy change over.
That’s great to hear👍! Thanks for watching
Ahhh man...what a great helpful video...! Thanks so much for sharing this!! Same year cluster for your same year truck is important info 👌 & New subscriber to your channel. I own a 94 F150 4.9l 5spd w/263k miles still going running strong Clean great condition.
I’m glad the video helped you out👍! Ya as long as you’ve got the same year cluster you’re good to go. 263k miles is incredible! The fact that it’s a 5 speed makes it that much cooler. Thanks for watching and welcome to the channel😀👍!
Damn I didn't know this either, looks like I'll be shopping for a cluster with a tach !
daisbest5.0 Ya it’s a cool that Ford put the same wiring harness’ in no matter what kind of gauge cluster you had. I have to warn you though, make sure you get the same year of gauge cluster as your vehicle otherwise your truck won’t charge properly. Happy hunting!👍
@@ydocproductions5593 yeah I read about that, I have a 92 so I know that 92-93 will work
daisbest5.0 Right on👍! I made the mistake of putting in a 92 in my 94 Ford and it’s a LOOONG STORY, but let’s just say it’s not worth the headache to buy a different year cluster🤣!
I did this in my XL. Being a 5 speed, I really didn't like not having a tachometer.
I’ll never understand why Ford didn’t put tachometers in their trucks. Especially the manual trans trucks🤷🏼♂️. My guess is that it had something to do with money!🤣
@@ydocproductions5593 It's how they get you to buy the next level of options. Whether it is a $24K truck or a $65K truck, it's still the same truck.
@@alexandermckay8594 Exactly!
did it keep your miles the same?
My 5 speed XLT doesn’t have a tach either. But I had a buddy in high school that had an XLT auto that had a tach. Go figure.
Excellent video, I did this to my ‘99 Ford Ranger since it didn’t have a tach either. The process on those is so much more complicated if you want to retain your original mileage though.
That’s awesome! Sounds like it was a pretty in depth swap, but I’m glad it worked out for you!😀👍
I'm ready to do that to my xlt,got a complete
Instrument cluster with tach for 20bucks.good info/video 👍😁🏜️
That’s awesome! I’m glad you were able to get one for so cheap😀👍. Just make sure the cluster is the same year as your vehicle and you should be all set.
Great overall video, and camera work ! Well explained when it needed to be, and edited when appropriate. Your video motivated me to change mine, thanks !!
Thank you so much for the kind words I’m glad the video was helpful! Just remember to get a gauge cluster that is the same year as your truck otherwise it might not charge properly😀👍
Tks Cody your expectations are spot on, I'm looking forward to doing that to my 96 Ford.
I’m glad the video was helpful! Just make sure you get a gauge cluster that is the same year as your truck otherwise it won’t charge properly. Thanks for watching😀👍
Love this channel. I've had 7 obs Fords and currently have a 97 F250 HD. Looks exactly like yours but has the 5.8. You've given me so many ideas. Keep the vids coming!
That’s awesome! They really are great trucks. If you decide to do this modification make sure you get a gauge cluster that’s the same year as your truck otherwise it won’t charge properly. Thanks for watching 😀👍
Nice!! I just got an xl f150 hopefully I can do this to mine
Great! Just make sure you get one that’s the same year as your truck😀👍
Hey I also got a f150 xl it’s a 96 and I got it yesterday 163k miles with a 5 speed
Now one thing that wasn't mentioned and im not sure if it is accurate but if it is its important is that you have to get a cluster for the engine that your truck has so 6 cyl or 8 cyl, the size doesn't matter but number of cylinders does
I’ve heard that too, however I don’t think it matters wether it’s a 6cyl or 8cyl but what DOES matter is wether it’s a gas or diesel gauge cluster. Also the gauge cluster has to be the same year as your truck otherwise it won’t charge properly.
So what you did was get a new chassis that accommodated a tach. Good show. As far as aligning up the selection needle ( if you ever need to) on the gear selector on the cluster...there is a small black wheel on the cable that you had to release from the gear shifter. That little round nob attached to that white cable adjusts the alignment on the pointer to P N D12.
You’re exactly right. The plastic inside is shaped differently because the layout of the gauges isn’t the same. Whoever designed this generation of Ford trucks was really smart. Putting in a small wheel to align the needle pointer is a really great idea. Thanks for the kind words Johnny,😀👍
Hi Cody, i like your video. it helped me to realize what i needed to do to add a tach. i also got a cluster for a 92 for my 94 f150. I downloaded the pin outs for both years and swapped a few wires, made one wire longer and it now works just fine. the connector pins are labeled 1-14 on both the black and grey. i moved 1B to 11G, 14B to 12G, 12G to 14B and swapped 2G with 3G. you have to make the 12G wire longer to be able to reach. You will also have to change out the Left Turn signal/Fuel Reset/Charge light overlay with one from a 92 but it works. The 94 overlay has the Lft turn/Theft/Air Bag. Hope this helps you out.
Hi Nick I’m so glad the video was helpful to you! Also happy to hear you you were able to figure out a way to get a 92 tach cluster to work in your 94 (PRETTY COOL!!). I still only recommend people buy gauge clusters that are the same year as their truck, but that was a really smart swap, and it’s nice to hear that it is possible to use any year gauge cluster with just a little bit of work😀👍! Thanks for watching!
Awesome!!! It really should have been there all along... subbed!
I agree, and thank you. Welcome to the channel. Just make sure that if you do this swap you get a gauge cluster that is the same year as your truck otherwise your vehicle won’t charge properly.👍
We call the transmission selection indicator the PRiNDLe. Park, Reverse, Neutral, Drive, Low.
That’s great to know! Thanks😀👍
i did this to 92 f150 four years ago and was shocked just to how easily it was to change
Glad to hear you’ve had great success with it. Ford was really smart to use the same plug-ins regardless of wether it had the tachometer or not. Thanks for watching😀👍!
Did you have to use a 92 cluster with a tach? I've heard conflicting reports that the mid 90s clusters won't work on the early 90s
@@rolandsgarage8640 That’s exactly right. Ford changed the wiring on the gauge clusters throughout the years. Ford would even change the wiring mid year, so you’d want to do your research before buying one. Id highly recommend you read the article below. It would clear up any confusion you might have.😀👍
www.ford-trucks.com/articles/installing-an-oem-tachometer-in-a-1992-1996-f-150-or-bronco/
Great upgrade Cody! Maybe next you can do a 5 speed swap to get those RPMs down on the highway, wink wink, nudge nudge
Sparks Fire and Baling Wire It would be a dream come true to have a 5speed🤩!
I got a 5 speed in mine there is no power 5th unless your going above 75
4.9 I6's will run at 3k rpm for a lifetime.
Originally designed as a tractor motor, the older Ford I6 runs at 3k for peak combination of efficiency, torque and horsepower.
That idea carried over into the 4.9 I6.
The only real wear on the lower end of the I6 occurs in the top 90% of the powerband.
Keep the pedal below that + good oil maintenance and the lower end can easily last 500k+. Easily.
It wasn't broke so they didn't fix it.
The 4.9l is a great engine. One of the best engines ford ever produced. Wish they still had it around in modern vehicles.
We got a late 90s dodge regular cab short bed in the yard today. It had a chunk of a tree hit the roof and crunched it ( sadly it's such a cool truck ) it has a good interior still just needs cleaning. It's prolly gonna be the interior donor for my truck. I'll try to get a video of the truck. It was the neighbors farm truck
Old Croney's Garage that’s exciting man! Sounds to me like you got the perfect donor vehicle.👍
@@ydocproductions5593 I wish my truck was a short bed lol
Old Croney's Garage ya I like short beds trucks over long beds
Nice work on that, Cody.
murphymb Thanks Michal!😀👍
Reading some of the other comments it appears I need to go to the junk yard and find a ford which Has a TAC in the dash, just to have find the right one
Yup I would check your local salvage yard and see what you can find. However, you have to get a tachometer that is the same year as your truck otherwise your vehicle won’t charge properly. Good luck with the swap😀👍!
Great video brother! You did a awesome job, I’m just like you I always wanted a a tach in my trucks whether they are standard or not. Sorry I haven’t been commenting much, been making my rounds around our little community letting you guys know I’ve been MIA. My stomach bug that I mentioned in my last upload floored me. Ended up being semi serious and was sick for 5 weeks which I ended up in the hospital for 4 days of! I’m out and recovering but been super weak since July. Today was my first day feeling semi normal, the big downside is my lightning project is at a standstill until I’m fully recovered.....man 2020, what a crazy year...and now a hurricane about to hit right next to me 😂. Anyways just checking in brother, keep up the great work.
3rd Coast OBS HEY JAMES!! IT’S GREAT TO HEAR FROM YA😀👍! Installing that tach was a great addition to the truck, but I actually had to swap the original gauge cluster back in a few days later, (but that’s a LONG story for another day🤣). I’m real sorry to hear about that man that sounds real scary, but I’m glad your feeling better. That’s the last thing anybody needs especially after getting off a long work schedule and having a new baby in the family. I also hope that CAT.3 hurricane coming your way doesn’t hit you guys too hard. Hang in there before you know it you’ll be up and about turning wrenches on that Lightning in no time! Stay healthy brother!🤙
There's a military truck Canada used. It's a 1976 Chevy military truck. It's a 1-1/4 ton truck. They all used a 350 small block,th350 transmission,np203 transfer case ( full time 4x4),Dana 44 from axle and a 14 bolt rear. Then they had quarter inch thick skid plates, military grade grille guard, blackout lights and the jump plug to jump other trucks. There's some photos of them if you look up "Canadian 5/4 ton" on google
Old Croney's Garage I haven’t seen the pictures on google but from the description it sounds like an old CUCV (Civilian Utility Cargo Vehicle)🤷🏼♂️
@@ydocproductions5593 let me see if I can find one on the forum. It basically is a cucv but older
@@ydocproductions5593 here's some photos: www.mapleleafup.net/forums/showthread.php?t=21547
"look at my dash" *slaps dash*
Last time I did that in my truck.
Well
Pretty self explanatory
Old Croney's Garage Yup. Those dodge dashes are know for imploding!🤣
@@ydocproductions5593 and exploding
@@oldcroneysgarage9739 Haha classic Dodge!🤣
Yo this dude has four hands-I couldn’t imagine.
Makes working on it a lot easier🤣
Awesome video, I didn’t know it would be this easy.
Thanks! Ya it’s a really simple swap. Just make sure you get a gauge cluster that is the same year as your truck and you’re good to go😀👍
LOL! The third hand freaked me out :)
Hahaha Ya I had a helper with this project🤣
That only works if you have the right year to year and cluster setup. There are actually wiring differences. Not all years are a straight swap. You'll know it's wrong when your alternator isn't charging your battery. Lol
You’re absolutely correct. I tell everyone who comments on doing this swap to get the right year gauge cluster.
My Speedo and odometer aren’t working in my 95. Going to have to replace them
That’s too bad. I hope you can find the right parts soon!👍
4:27 oh yeah, it's easy for you because you have three hands 😁
🤣
Very nice video neat project 👍
Thanks so much glad you enjoyed it!
Didn’t say where you got the new cluster from or what cluster you used
OK hears one for ya , i have a 93 f150 that i put a 3.9 cunnins i and ive tryed to put a ford tack in it and just cant find a way to make it work. like you chanel keep up the good work.
Badger bob Thank you sir I appreciate it! Hhhmmm🤔 Well since it was previously a gas truck I believe Ford wired the tachs. to the ignition coils. Now that it’s a 4BT diesel I’m not quite sure. I can only go off what other people have done in the past, and that’s usually routing the tach wiring to the stator of the alternator. There’s a couple of videos out there where people add tachs. to their diesels using that technique, and also some good forums off the internet as well.
I did not see where to purchase the TAC! did I miss that? Also, I have a 1996 f150 XL Is my Truck compatible with what you did here?
Your video really helped me to decide to do the same thing. But even though you moved some of the gages the the left to put the tac in. The wires didn't have to be changed at all? That just hard to believe lol but really hope is it!
The biggest thing with this swap is you HAVE TO get a gauge cluster that is the same year as your truck, otherwise it won’t charge properly (speaking from experience🤣). I’m glad the video helped you out! Good luck on the swap😀👍!
If you don't think your tach is accurate, you can go through disassembly again down to the bare gauges. using a dwell tach meter to gather the actual RPMs from under the hood. compare that to what the tach reads on the dash. 3000 RPM's sounds like a lot at 60 especially if you have overdrive. Check the tag on your differential and see what your gear ratio is. If your tach dwell reading is not consistent with your dash tach you can reset it by taking two spoons and removing the tach needle carefully. There will be a tiny needle in the hole where the needle came off. If your tach reads 1000 RPM's on the dash at idle and the dwell reads 500 RPMS reinstall the needle back in the tach while the truck is running to coincides with the tach dwell meter. Just be very careful to get the tiny needle inside the tach lined up with the tach indicator needle. It may take several tries.
That’s all really good info. I think that the tach was correct because I only had a 3 speed in the truck (C6 trans), so that along with the 4.10 axle gears is probably the reason why it was 3,000 RPM.
@@ydocproductions5593 3 speed with 4:10's surely will give you a high RPM. How did you end up with a 3 speed? What year is your truck? surely you must have overdrive....NO?
@@johnnyohness6610 My truck is a 94. My only guess is why it doesn’t have a 4 speed is either it was a cheaper factory option, or maybe even special ordered for that specific transmission.
Agreed. I’ve got a 4:10 rear end on my ‘97, and my tach reads 2000 at 60mph.
great detail information on the simple swap and looks great. was the cluster from the same size engine? did it matter? thanks
Hi William I believe the gauge cluster was from a v8 however it doesn’t matter wether it’s a v6 or v8. The only thing you have to be sure of is that it isn’t a diesel gauge cluster and the cluster has to be the same year as your truck. Thanks for watching👍
I have 1992 ford ranger whiteout tachometer so I got one in junkyard for 30 dlls, but the tachometer still don't work, cause the prints show the term points is not the same
Finally I make it work!!
Great job! Thanks for the info!!
I’m glad you thought the video was helpful! Thanks for watching😀👍
Lifesaver, quick question, would swapping in a whole new cluster with the tach work? Or do you need to keep the OG speedo for the mileage?
Hi, You could swap in a whole new cluster with a tachometer, but the great thing about this swap is that the speedometer sections are universal so you can keep the same mileage on your truck. Not only is keeping the original speedometer the legal thing to do so the mileage is correct when you decide to sell it in the future, but also you keep the same PSOM (Programmable Speed Odometer Module) and wouldn’t have to recalibrate it if you put in a new one. So in my opinion it’s worth keeping the original Speedometer section when you do this swap. Hope all that made sense and helps. If you have anymore questions feel free to ask😀👍
Down below I’ve linked an article which has helped out many people who are about to take on this swap:
www.ford-trucks.com/articles/installing-an-oem-tachometer-in-a-1992-1996-f-150-or-bronco/
My ? Does it matter which speedo section you use? For the swap or are the speedo /odometer the same in both. I would like to keep the proper odometer reading.
Hi, the speedometer/odometer is the same throughout, so you can keep the original odometer and correct miles on your truck. I have to warn you though. You have to make absolutely sure that the gauge cluster you buy is the same year as your truck, otherwise your truck might not charge properly. Good luck with your truck👍
I subbed maybe you are still keeping up with comments from old videos, this whole cluster thing is killing me, lol. Now did I just watch you switch gauges out of a cluster you bought into your original cluster? That won’t work for me, I’m trying to restore like nearly brand new a 93 f-150 xlt , I’ve gone over the frame and drive line every inch of it all rust removed and every seal and bearing that could be changed got changed. Every single piece of the braking system replaced with new stuff including the steel brake lines. I put a flat bed on it as it’s what I preferred, and I’m to the inside of the cab now. The truck started as a automatic and someone before me changed it to a manual, to my good luck they did an excellent job making the switch, the only thing they didn’t change was they left the original cluster with the gear indicators for the auto trans and absent tach. I have a 5 speed 93 F150 xlt 4x4 just like the only I’m restoring except it’s a 300 6 banger, restore is a 5.0 liter v8. I can’t just stick the gauges on my cluster, the plugs are the same but they are oriented different on the cluster from the 6 cylinder truck. I’m wondering if I can just install my odometer into the cluster from the 6 cylinder truck? I’m betting I probably can’t. I watched your video and figured I would ask, maybe you would know, either way your video was informative and too the point, my kind of vid! So I subbed.
Hi sir, when I did this swap I bought my gauge cluster at a junk yard and put my odometer from my truck and put it in the tachometer gauge cluster I had bought. To answer your questions however about swapping your gauge clusters from your two trucks, the short answer is yes. You can take the odometer from your 93 F-150 you’re restoring and swap it in the cluster from the 6cyl truck (that way you also keep the original mileage to your vehicle) . One big detail that you HAVE TO BE SURE of is that the gauge cluster you are using is the same year as your truck. If you don’t the truck won’t charge properly, and you could mess up the ABS system of your vehicle. The article I linked at the bottom does a real good job explaining that. A gauge cluster without a factory tachometer has a plastic housing that simply won’t allow you to take the gauges from a factory tachometer gauge cluster and swap it in. The plastics are simply just molded differently from the factory. To be clear though the center odometer sections of either gauge cluster are identical.
I hope all of that made sense and helps answer your questions. It sounds like you have one awesome OBS Ford. I think you’d like the small video series I’ve posted recently of restoring a 1993 F-150. Thanks so much for subscribing and welcome to the channel!😀👍
Here’s the article better explaining the process of swapping out gauge clusters below:
www.ford-trucks.com/articles/installing-an-oem-tachometer-in-a-1992-1996-f-150-or-bronco/
Can you offer any insight into converting a 4.5k diesel tach to be compatible with a 4.9l gasoline? In a 95 F150. 4.5k is literally a perfect tachometer for the 4.9l
I’m sorry but the diesel and gasoline tachometers are completely different when it comes to internal wiring. It wouldn’t even work for your truck. If you decide to do this swap it doesn’t matter what gas engine you use. What is absolutely crucial is that you use a tachometer that is the same year as your truck. If you don’t do that your truck won’t charge properly. Good luck with your swap😀👍
I've heard before that you need to check the circuitry on the back of the board for an 8 or 6 cylinder marking. Does that not matter if you're just swapping new gauges into your original cluster housing?
I don’t think that matters whether it’s from a 6 or 8 cyl. engine. From my research you need to make sure the gauge cluster is the same year as your truck. Otherwise the vehicle won’t charge properly.
@ydocproductions5593 found this out the hard way unfortunately 😂 Cluster I bought was from a 93 8 cylinder. I have a 95 6 cylinder.... truck was NOT happy lol
Thanks for the great video, I have a '96 F150 Eddie Bower Edition 5.0 V8 without a tach and I would like to add one to it. You mentioned that it has to be of the same year, what about transmission and engine size? Thanks
Great question JR. It doesn’t matter what engine or transmission size you have (excluding Diesel engines) just as long as it’s the same year gauge cluster. Reason being the gauge clusters had different wiring in them from the 92-96/97 year trucks. Hope that helps and good luck😀👍
Question
My truck has the same thing, 460 with no tachometer, is the odometer screen serviceable? The screen in mine is very... faded? Only other way I can think to describe it is when you put a magnet to an old tv and it distorts the picture. Can't see the milage
I know exactly what your talking about. That’s a fairly common problem with those trucks. I’m not sure exactly why it happens, however I have no idea how to fix/service that. I’m not saying it’s impossible to fix, but I’m willing to bet the money it would take to fix it isn’t worth it. Wish I had a better solution for ya.
I’m gonna need to find one locally, eBay is $250
You can try to find one at your local salvage yard just make sure you get one that is the same year as your vehicle otherwise your truck might not charge properly.👍
DONT FORGET CERTAIN YEAR CLUSTERS WILL NOW WORK IN OTHERS AND THE ALTERNATOR WILL NOT CHARGE. If you swap from a 5 gauge cluster to a tach cluster you may have to jump a wire to make your alternator charge correctly. If you need help comment and I will help.
Very true and great advice! Thanks for taking the time to comment👍
@@ydocproductions5593 no problem I have been working with OBS f150’s for years and have lots of good advice and could make videos however I am not cape able of putting it all together for RUclips.
@@ydocproductions5593 I also and very knowledgeable when it comes to PSOM related things. They are becoming VERY valuable and hard to find.
@@03svterminator64 That’s great to hear! This is a channel where people’s knowledge/advice on trucks is greatly appreciated because not only does it help me out, but the other people that read the comment section, and it’s growing by the day. Be sure to check out the next project truck coming up in the near future. If you like OBS Fords then I think you’re gonna love what’s in the pipeline!
@@ydocproductions5593 maybe I can start doing videos and collaborate some with you. I’ve done a lot of mods to mine and am always at the salvage yard digging for more cools stuff, rare parts and upgrades for me project 95 XL.
Where did you find the tach cluster, and where would I find someone to find out my mileage my odometer is broken?
Hi Larry, I got mine out of a salvage yard for $30 if you wanted you could go to ebay for example, but expect to pay way more. The only issue with this swap I’d warn you about is you HAVE TO make sure your gauge cluster is the same year as your truck, otherwise your vehicle won’t charge properly. As for your mileage it’s almost impossible to guess what your current mileage would be. You could maybe get somewhere in the ballpark by getting a car fax report and back tracking your mileage from there but no way to get an exact number. Hope that helps!
I put a 66,000 mile 2001 Lincoln Town Car complete harness / dash cluster - 4.6 & AOD & stock column in a 1940 Ford - can you guys tell me what donor dash & tachometer I need to do this swap ??? Thanks for any help - also I understand - I heard the Town Car power steering pump needs to be switched out to a Mustang or F-150 power steering pump - anybody know which 1 ?????
Sorry, but I’m not versed on Lincoln vehicles or the swaps your wanting to do. It sounds like an awesome project though! Good luck with it👍!
So you didn’t have to change any of the wiring?
All you have to do is make sure the gauge cluster is the exact same year as your truck otherwise your vehicle won’t charge properly. No wiring change is needed. Good luck with your swap😀👍
Great upgrade but where do I source a cheap one
I’m glad you liked the video Richard. I would definitely recommend you check your local junkyards first before you go and buy one online. Just make sure you get one the same year as your truck😀👍
I swapped today, lights are not working, maybe because I installed LEDs, but the main thing is that the ABS it's flashing. Sadly, RPMs and all the rest are working. I got it used from eBay. I paid a lot, anyway I think they'll accept returns, I'm going to have to pay shipping. Mine it's a 96 XL the eBay one is a 95.
Hi zh9119. I’m not exactly sure why the lights wouldn’t be working, but if you ABS light is flashing means you have the wrong year of gauge cluster for your truck. What I tell everyone in the comment section that wants to do this swap is it’s ABSOLUTELY IMPERATIVE you get the same year gauge cluster as your truck otherwise your vehicle won’t charge properly. I’m sorry to hear you’ve had so much trouble with it. I hope you can return the one you bought and exchange it for the right one. Let me know what happens.
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I contacted the eBay seller, awesome guy, he refunded me the money already and he'll send me a free return label on Monday. I think you're right, I was tempted because the title said "94-96 F-150" and the pictures had written '96 Bronco, on the back of the cluster. Then, when I received it, I saw clearly the F number with a 5 after. About the lights, I thought I had a bad fuse or I shorted out lol, but I installed back the original XL cluster and all the lights are working now. Thanks for your prompt answer. Tomorrow and Saturday, I'll go to check some LKQs but it's hard to find the same year and the cluster waiting for you there lol, there is always someone who goes first.
@@ydocproductions5593 Today I received the F6 cluster, I just connected it to test without swapping the PSOM. IT WORKS! Everything, including lights! I drove some blocks till I was sure that including the temp was working. Yeah, that proofed what you said, F5 boards are not compatible with F6. I'm waiting for a new glass cover that I ordered, and then I'll swap the PSOM with mine. Sadly, the one I purchased has only 135K miles and mine has 172K lol. Thanks a lot for your help!
@@zh9119 That’s so great to hear you got the gauge cluster working! I have no idea why Ford wouldn’t just use the same gauge cluster wiring throughout the 92-97 years, but it matters quite a bit. I’m happy that it all worked out!😀👍
Where can I purchase the RPM tachometer and housing for my 1988 F-150 automatic with a 302?
Hi Slade, I haven’t done a swap on the 1987-1991 ford trucks so I’m not too versed on it. I think the process is similar to the 92-1997 OBS ford trucks however. That being said I would look at your local salvage yard or eBay for one. One thing I tell everyone that wants to do this swap in their 92-97 trucks is to make sure you get a gauge cluster that is the same year as your truck otherwise it might not charge properly. Again I don’t know if that applies to your generation of truck but better safe than sorry. Hope that helps👍
So I can’t just put the tach itself into my cluster? My original cluster is like your first one.
That is correct. The gauge cluster without a tach has a different plastic molding and less light bulbs than the gauge cluster that originally have a tach. Your gonna have to find a tach that is the same year as your vehicle in order to do this modification. Hope this helps😀👍.
I picked up a junkyard cluster with a tach but i realized its got an analog rolling type odometer instead of the digital readout on my truck. Can i still put the tach from it in my trucks cluster?
Hi Aidan good question , the thing I tell everyone who wants to do this swap is the same advice/directive I’ll lend you. It’s ABSOLUTELY IMPERATIVE you get a gauge cluster that is the same year as your vehicle otherwise your vehicle won’t charge properly. I hate to say it but the one you bought is no good. I don’t know why Ford chose to make it that way, but it is what it is🤣. I hope that answered your question and if you need more help don’t hesitate to ask. Good luck and let me know how it turns out😀👍
oh i also ad leds to it at same time
I bet those LEDs were a HUGE upgrade from the stock light bulbs.
Could I just buy another cluster online that had that tach and plug that right in?
Great question👍. You have to make sure the gauge cluster you buy is the same year as your truck. If you don’t your truck might not charge properly.
So could I buy the gauges and swap them into my cluster Insted if getting an entire new cluster
That wouldn’t work because the tachometer gauge cluster and the one you have in your truck currently have different plastic moldings where the gauges sit inside of the cluster. The tachometer gauges aren’t physically compatible with the gauge cluster that doesn’t have a tach. Hope that answers your question.
If you do decide to do this swap MAKE SURE you get a gauge cluster that is the same year as your truck otherwise it won’t charge properly. 👍
I have the 1996 Ford f150 eddie bauer addition can I do this to it?
As long as you get a gauge cluster that is the same year as your truck this swap should work fine in your truck😀👍. Thanks for watching
was the cluster of a 4.9 or V/8?
Ok so after watching this I just did the same thing. I have a 1996 F-350 with a 5.8 gas. I got the new cluster from a 1995 F-150. Everything is working tach included as it should including all the warning lights, the only issue I now have is that the ABS light is staying on where as before with the original cluster it would come on for the "lamp check" and then stay off. I even put the original cluster back in to double check. So to recap, ABS light now stays on while engine is running with the different cluster that has the tach, any idea why?
Hi DK Dani, that is something that happens when the gauge cluster isn’t the same year as your truck. I wouldn’t recommend continuing to drive your truck with the ABS light on. Down below is a link to an article article better explaining the gauge cluster swap process. I hope this was helpful and you get the ABS light fixed soon as well👍. Take care
www.ford-trucks.com/articles/installing-an-oem-tachometer-in-a-1992-1996-f-150-or-bronco/
@@ydocproductions5593 gotta thanks. The only thing I think may be tricky on this is that 250 and 350's were still OBD1 in 96. And 150's were OBD2 in 96. I have 2 trucks, my 96 F-150 is OBD2 and my 96 F-350 is OBD1. Not sure how that could play a role in this, I figured 95 150's were OBD1 so would be more compatible with my 96 F-350
Why switch them from one to the other? Are the inputs different? Would one from a 95 150 fit a 94 350?
Even though the wiring hookups are the same; the housings of the tachometer gauge cluster are different from the one without a tach. I can only recommend you use a tachometer gauge cluster that is the same year as your truck. If you don’t your truck won’t charge properly. Thanks for watching😀👍
Will this work on the 87 through 91 body styles as well? I have an 87 f150 that I would love to do this to.
I haven’t tried it myself but I’ve heard it works just the same as the 92-97 trucks. Just make sure you have a gauge cluster the same year as your truck. Good luck! Let me know how it works out😀👍
Will this work on a 1996 Ford e350 van?
I have no experience with the “E” series of vans, but I bet the same principle applies. That being said you have to make sure the gauge cluster you buy is the same year as your van otherwise it won’t charge properly. Let me know how it turns out👍
3000 rpms at 60 what gears do you have my 89 bronco with 3.55s with 3 speed would do 80 at 3500 so
I had 4.10 gears in the axle
Hi got a 92f150 truck with no tach, and bought 94 tach cluster on ebay to do a swap it should work and plug in right. I got 127000 miles on my original cluster . Don't know how many miles on the 94 cluster what do you think thanks jim
Hi Jim, that’s a great question. Ford changed the wiring in the gauge clusters between the years of the Old Body Style Ford trucks. Everything might look the same when it comes to hooking up the wiring harness and bolting it to the dash for example, but internally they are simply wired different. Which means the 1994 gauge cluster you bought won’t work in your 1992 F150 because it’ll cause your alternator not to charge. What I tell everyone is that if you want to do this swap make sure you get the same year gauge cluster as your truck. Sorry to give you the bad news, but I would recommend you return the gauge cluster you bought off eBay and get one that matches the year as your truck.
Hope that answers all your questions about this swap. If you do however have any more questions to ask I’m here to help. Take care👍
I’ve also linked an article down below that helps explain this gauge cluster swap and is a great resource to have:
www.ford-trucks.com/articles/installing-an-oem-tachometer-in-a-1992-1996-f-150-or-bronco/
Why didnt you put tach on the left lime all cars instead of putting it on the right
It’s how the wiring is routed on the gauge cluster itself. It physically wouldn’t fit if I tried to hook it up on the left side. Thanks for watching😀👍
@@ydocproductions5593 okay cool. Thanms for replying back
So the MPH gauge you kept from the old one correct? And then swapped out basically everything else?
Also, when that third hand came in the video… freaked me out!!! Lol
Exactly, I used the original mph gauge because it held the original odometer so the miles are the same. If you’re gonna do this swap yourself make sure you get a gauge cluster that’s the same year as your truck.
Haha🤣, ya I had a helper that day hold things for me while I worked on it. I don’t have 3 arms I promise LOL 🤣😂
@@ydocproductions5593 haha good deal… freaked me out!! 🤣🤣 I was like I need to lay off whatever I’m doing lol!!
Well I’ve been looking around online and the cheapest I’m finding is 200+ that’s insane. I was shocked for sure
@@willwork2fish261 I’d recommend going to a junk yard. I managed to pick mine up for only $30👍
Whered you get the parts to replace what you had?
I went to my local junk yard and managed to find one. Just be sure you get one that’s the same year as your truck otherwise it might not charge properly👍. Thanks for watching
I have a 93 350 and I pulled the gages from a 96. Is it still plug and play to swap them?
In theory the gauges themselves are all interchangeable however just to be on the safe side I always tell people they should only buy parts that are the same year as their truck. Its definitely up to you just be careful. Best of luck to ya. Let me know how it turns out😀👍
Can it be done with a 85 Ford ranger?,I want a tac so bad
Hi Tyson, that’s a really good question. I’m not quite sure if it can be done on a Ranger. I’ve never worked on one before, but you could always try to find a tachometer gauge cluster at your local junkyard and see if it works😀👍.
Or the new half gauges where you got them
Hi Captgreatvalue, I actually got that gauge cluster (with all the gauges) from the salvage yard for only $30. If you’d like to do this swap for your own vehicle you NEED TO get a gauge cluster that is the same year as your truck otherwise your vehicle won’t charge properly. I hope that answered your questions and was helpful. If you have any more please feel free to ask, and thanks for watching. Take care
@@ydocproductions5593 hey thanks for reaching out yes that’s what I needed to know I’ll check the yards and eBay
Well I did some work to my 99 dodge ram. It's running a ton better. The more it's drovd the better it gets
Old Croney's Garage Great news!👍
Excellent! Did you make the upgrade on Ford ranger 1988?
Hi, sorry but I made this video specifically for the 92-97 ford full size trucks. That being said you should go to a junk yard and try to find a Ford Ranger with a tachometer gauge cluster and see if it has the same connections as the one in your truck😀👍
Hey Cody, what model did you pull the new cluster out of? Im getting my grandads '93 F250 here soon and I really like this vid. Thanks!
Hey Luke, I got this gauge cluster out of a junk yard. It doesn’t matter if it’s a f-150, f-250, or f-350 as long as you get a gauge cluster that is the same year as your truck it should work👍.
Linked below is an article going through the whole process and does a really good job explaining some of the questions you might have:
www.ford-trucks.com/articles/installing-an-oem-tachometer-in-a-1992-1996-f-150-or-bronco/
Will this work with the 94 e350 idi diesel?
Hi, I never have worked on the e-series of vans and so I don’t know exactly but the principal would be the same. You would have to get a guage cluster out of a e series van that has a factory tach. That same gauge cluster would have to be a diesel gauge cluster. The gas and diesel gauge clusters are NOT interchangeable. Lastly that same gauge cluster would have to be one that’s the same year as your van otherwise the vehicle won’t charge properly. As long as it meets all that criteria it just might work, but no promises/guarantees because I don’t know if the writing would work as well. Hope that helps
Where do I find the stuff to do this for a 1990 f150
You can find these gauge clusters at junkyards. Also on the internet but they cost a lot more👍
Hi Cody. I’m currently doing this swap on my truck. I when to hook the cluster back up and for some reason, most when on turn the lights on, most of the back lights don’t turn on. I tried pulling the bulbs out and rotating them 180 degrees but I got nothing. Seams like only one light in the top left hand corner turns on and that’s it. Any ideas??
Well the first thing that came to mind is their possibly burnt out (very common for these trucks), but regardless if that’s not the case I’d still make sure the gauge cluster is the same year as your vehicle. I hope that helps feel free to ask with any more questions you might have😀👍
what gears do you have i have e4od, 4.10 gears and 235-75-R15 tires i turn 2300 rpm at 70
I had 4.10 gears with a C6 transmission. It was roughly 3,000 rpm at 60 mph.
Might sound like a silly question but could I get a 94 bronco cluster and throw it into my 94 F150?
That’s a great question! I’ve never messed with the Bronco gauge clusters, but since it’s the “Old Body Style” platform, and the same year as your F-150, in theory it should work just fine👍.
@@ydocproductions5593 thx!! I've been doing a little homework on it and believe it does.
Bro has 4 hands, no wonder it was easy to replace.
I just switched out the whole assembly. Gauges all working, but now i have no dash lights of any kind. Any ideas?
Is everything plugged back in including the dome light switch and fuel tank selection switch? If so then it could possibly be that the gauge cluster lights are burnt out which is fairly common.
@@ydocproductions5593 ill have to check. I did this 2 weeks ago. After watching this i may pull it all out it again and switch the gauges in the housing as you did so i can keep my proper mileage
@@jessewait2931 That’s a good idea, let me know how it turns out and if you need any more help😀👍
I have a 96 f150, and I snagged a instrument cluster out of a 95. It was too good a price to pass up, but I’d really like to use it in my truck. Are there any resources out there on the exact differences between the two? I’m hoping there’s some way of modifying the 95 cluster to work in the 96. It might work as is. My truck is dated 08/95, and the cluster I got says A061095, which I’m guessing is august 6, 1995. Might have to bite the bullet and just pull the cluster out of the truck and compare them
Hi Colin, no modifications would be needed to swap in the cluster you bought. It sounds like the 2 gauge cluster you have are so close enough in year that it would work just fine.
I linked an article down below that does a really good job of not only explaining how to do the swap step by step, but also explaining how Ford changed the wiring of the gauge clusters throughout the production of the OBS trucks. I hope it answers any questions or concerns you might have.😀👍
www.ford-trucks.com/articles/installing-an-oem-tachometer-in-a-1992-1996-f-150-or-bronco/
@@ydocproductions5593 I actually just got the swap done a little bit ago. No abs light, charges just fine. They were the same in nearly every respect. I believe that my “96” is in fact one of the infamous “95” trucks with OBDII. Absolutely blind luck that it worked out that way!
@@colinhess8900 That’s great to hear! Enjoy your truck😀👍!
Great video. I'd like to do this to my 95 F150. Question, where did you buy the tach cluster and the skinnier secondary clusters?
Thank you! I managed to find that gauge cluster at a junk yard for $30. Wherever you decide to buy one just make extra sure you get a gauge cluster that’s the same year as your truck👍
Is there anyway to do this to a 1983-1987 f250 6.9idi? I hate the look of the extra bulky tachometers and would prefer if I could put one in in the gauge cluster panel
Hi Jacob. I’m not quite sure if this would work for the 83-87 year trucks. I made this video specifically for the 92-97 year fords and have no experience with the 83-87 Fords.
Since I’ve never worked on one I can only guess. The best advice I can give is to go to your local U-Pull It and pull a tachometer gauge cluster and see if it has the same wiring hook ups in your existing truck. As you know those generation of vehicles weren’t computerized so you would also have to see if it’s even possible to take the existing odometer that’s currently in your truck and place it into the tach. cluster. I hope that helps😀👍!
Where can I find one for a 1992 Ford F-250 XLT 5.8L
Long wheel base, duel fuel tanks?
Hi Daniel, I got my gauge cluster out of a junk yard. As long as you get a gauge cluster out of a gas truck (doesn’t matter what engine it has) that matches the same year as your vehicle it should work.
Below is an article I like to recommend to people that does a really great job explaining the whole process to those that haven’t done this swap before. Hope this helps!😀👍
www.ford-trucks.com/articles/installing-an-oem-tachometer-in-a-1992-1996-f-150-or-bronco/