The Acolyte Fan Petition Just Proves That Disney's Cancellation Was The Right Call
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- Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024
- The Acolyte fan petition on Change.org to get the Star Wars show's cancellation reversed basically proves that Disney was right to give the $180 million flop the axe. Also, it's weird how similar The Rings Of Power and The Acolyte are. When will Hollywood realize what a terrible mistake they're making?
Don't forget the 1.8 million signatures to remake game of thrones S8 that went nowhere. That's what really puts the popularity in perspective
They'd need to remake since s5... and still would run out of material after ADwD
It's still not very many people..
1.8 million out of 40 million or something like that. Small percentage.
I would have signed that one! 😂
Hollywood thinks it's their job to socially engineer and manufacture preferences they are convinced the audience should have instead of appealing to the preferences that already exist.
They've been doing it for so long they never stopped to ask themselves if they should at all..
YES!!!!
What makes "Force is Female" filmmakers think women want to be pandered to with box-checking, third rate garbage? Smart women just want good storytelling. I'm old enough to remember good art, and I despair.
the same with women for Hillary, as if conservative women would vote for someone no matter the poliitics.
I'm with you grandmamma!
I'm a woman who has loved Star Wars since the first incredible time I saw it as a small child. I was in awe 😮 of all the things.
As a grown woman, still a nerd, admittedly most of my friends and all of my closest people are men. As a gamer, avid reader, and lover of the cinema and TV entertainment, my tastes tend to mirror those who are much more masculine than I. That's OK. I've never been made to feel left out or less than.
As for rom com's, it's more likely that I am the one dragged along 😂. It's not that I can't enjoy it with a friend or date, it's that the movie posters over there with star fighters or muscle cars are too alluring for me to ignore.
I really, really, really cannot agree less that those who don't like the Acolyte are angry misogynistic right wing white men. I'm not any of that, and as excited as I was to see the sith in the spotlight I kept my chin up after the first episode and thought OK maybe the next one will be better. That never happened. 😢 It was so bad.
How? 😮
How was it so bad?
It feels like a lot of people would have to work really hard against all that came before to make this as bad as it was, all while trying to 'borrow' Anakin's story .
I went off on a tangent. My bad. I'm a bit on the passionate side.
It's similar to war movies. The core audience is guys who like to watch combat action. When romance is mixed in in order to draw in the half-interested girlfriends, it usually ends up pleasing nobody. "Pearl Harbor" is a prime example of that. It is still possible to reach a wider audience if you tell a compelling story without tacking on stuff just to reach other demographics. Back when IMDb still had forums, "Band of Brothers" had a not insignificant number of female fans discussing the series. There was very little in the way of romance, but what the series succeeded in was portraying the relations between the soldiers, something that appealed to both men and women.
Didn't bother watching the Acolyte. Have heard nothing but bad reviews about the show. I've been living under a rock these past few years so I'm not up to date with everything but man what has happened to the entertainment industry. These shows are so soulless.
It decided to ignore the entertainment part
You should watch it. It’s so good at being bad. It’s entertaining in its incompetency. Much more of an enjoyable “bad watch” than Rings of Power. At this point your view wouldn’t help them either
@@nersesgarabed781 see I think Rings of Power is hilarious
@@ste4392 I just find RoP far more insulting than Acolyte because I hold LotR in higher esteem than Star Wars
@@nersesgarabed781 that's fair enough, I just don't even consider it LotR tbh, but you're right it is an insult
Another thing that struck me was the lighting in these shows. It just doesn't look right in so many scenes, the close ups especially have the actors drenched in this flat light, a kind of studio light. The flawless costumes are lit up like they've just dressed themselves off the rack, nothing looks lived in or rooted to the scene. It's kind of hard to describe and one of those arts of film/tv making that you don't even notice when it's done right but sits uncomfortably when its not. It just doesn't FEEL right, even if you're unaware of the reason why. Hope you're doing well Erik.
There's more news around this petition than anything around the show. I'll be honest, I can't wait to see a "making of" one day of this travesty.
We'll never get anything like the Heart of Darkness documentary again, tragically. Hollywood is addicted to being plastic.
Absolutely!
Gf and my mother have both been fans of Bridgerton. Both refer to Grogu as baby Yoda, have seen only the Mandalorian and no other D+ SW shows.
Before season 3 of Mando, I was at local sportsball event with my brother, SIL, and gf where a team-branded jersey-wearing Grogu plushie was being sold, gf immediately went to the rack and grabbed one. It's the only a stuffed things shes ever wanted, yet if she saw a porg or Ahsoka action figure she has previously asked me who that is.
The House of Mouse will continue to (poorly) seek fresh new fans because they know they already have a hold on the lifelong ones. Only way to win is simply not to play.
@@AJM-lo3og yep this is exactly my point in a nutshell.
The females who do independently enjoy these franchises like them for the same reasons as males: Aspirational characters with admirable heroic values. And both sexes enjoy seeing Hunky heroes and Beautiful heroines. NOT desexualized "Strong Females" and males who are either neutered subordinates or toxic imbicles.
You have a popular product say selling the best burgers ever. New management buys in and says hey there is a big vegan market. Let’s swap our meat burgers out for just like meat burgers made of plants. We will get all the vegans on top. But you lose your customer base and attract only a few new vegan customers. Business goes down in flames.
How is "The Force is Female" not called out for being sexist?
Funny enough, the Force is Female is the marketing campaign for the Nike AF-1 shoes. The Star Wars ladies just happened to latch onto the related Nike shirts and it somehow got pushed into a Star Wars thing.
Hi Erik, I am from India. I am writing to just let you know that I think you might be perhaps the most entertaining writer on the internet today. I discovered your writing last year on Forbes where you bashed Rings of Power Season 1 (rightfully so), and I haven't stopped reading you since then -- you are just so entertaining! Keep writing, I wish you all the best Sir!
It’s really the issue with the upper levels of capitalism. The romance “industry” is somewhat niche (at least comparatively) and has probably has more “natural” avenues to go down to acquire more viewers. Star Wars, like Disney itself, already has such broad appeal that in order to show the perpetual growth that it’s stakeholders require, has to nowhere else to go but to pull in more audience from demographics that already have some exposure to it, but to a lesser degree. There are many things I don’t understand about the handling of Star Wars, but trying to appeal to “average” women and other groups that didn’t really watch it previously isn’t one of them. It was a calculated gamble that they could make a product that wouldn’t completely alienate their large core while bringing in new eyeballs. They’ve probably failed at both and trying to win back the core is what will no doubt happen eventually, it takes time for these huge corporations to course correct.
I would also say on the flip side of that romance would absolutely try to acquire more male consumers if it was ever in the same market dominant position as Star Wars, but although I understand your comparison, it breaks down a little because romance is a genre so there’s not exactly any direct control by one corporation. Certainly there has been sci-fi/fantasy more aimed at women (like the romance fantasy) as there have been attempts at romance for men. At least I would assume so, but since it is a somewhat niche/silly idea, I can’t think of an example. To make your comparison more apt, we would need a romantic property on the scale of Star Wars/Lord of the Rings, and there just hasn’t ever been. Which is an interesting question as to why with I’m sure many factors, such as women not always being the primary consumers in society historically, to having many divergent interests in comparison to the average man (the old “I can be a tomboy, but you can’t be a tomgirl”), etc. In laying that out, I can’t help but notice that a lot of so-called “woke” pushes to normalize also seem to favor making us all more equal consumers, but I’m sure it’s just coincidental that corporations would favor such “progress”. (None of that is to say that there isn’t actual social good being done at times, but it seems to be incidental and probably why it often feels cringey. Culture is one long commercial these days.)
Weird coincidence, I just saw George R R Martin also loves Lady Jane and is supporting its reboot.
@@shenmue249 yep saw that yesterday.
Thank God somebody has said it . Thank you .
I really feel the urge to make a comment about this "male majority". Yes maybe there are worldwide more male fans of Star wars and Tolkien and by the way other shows like Star Trek.
But i am female and a fan since i am fourteen when it comes to Star wars and over time of those other fantastic worlds. And i have and had female friends who are like me. For a time when the Star Wars prequels were hot i and my friends organized regular meetings in my city. Over the half were female (Frankfurt/Main, Germany).
So maybe tht is just a coincidence but still: why are we ignored by those "modern" showrunners and authors?
All! the time. I feel overlooked, ignored and not important at all. And my best friend feels the same. We were/are the nerds who kept the flame of passion alive even when there were no shows, no films, no series. We had the books, some also loved the comics and maybe played the games and pen and paper.
And now are we, lets say it, the wrong?! female fans?
We are the ones who are not into romance that much. Yes we also watch it and read it. But too much is annoying. And for my taste anyway there is too much talking about relationships and romance in today adventure films and series.
We love adventure, fights and good old fairy tales in every form. We need this.
I agree with your premise, but I just want well written characters period. I dont care if theyre male, female, Mon Calamari or Hutt, just write them well and give us good stories that arent contrived bullshit. Its exhausting to see and hear these arguments from people constantly defending these shows (which are objectively terrible) because they think this corporation is on the side of their particular cause! Gimme gay characters, gimmie trans and black and amputee and neurodivergent characters, but hire people that are skilled writers and producers to make these stories mean something and not just be a flag waving ceremony where people on screen are hollow empty stupid caricatures just going from plot contrivance to plot convenience to unsatisfying ending over and over again like theyve been doing. Im at the point now where I wish I could afford tattoo removal because I dont want anyone to know Im a STAR WARS fan because of what its become. STAR WARS is pathetic!
@@scotthallgv absolutely
Hopefully the obvious negative outcomes they’re getting with shows like this or rings of power, games like concord, they’ll actually address how creatively bankrupt a lot of these companies are
My grandmother LOVED Star Wars. Nothing to do with the plot, or effects, or the mythology. She just liked Harrison Ford. She thought he was just ridiculously handsome (she was right) and webt to the movies with my dad cause he was in it. That's it.
When I was growing up, my mom tbought Ewan McGregor was a dashing fellow, and took me to see the prequels, cause he was in it. She was also a sci-fi fan and watched Stat Trek, Stargate, Farscape etc...
My point is, Star Wars never had a problem appealing to women up until now. Just put in a handsome, charismatic male lead and you're good to go.
I don't think the entertainment industry (movies, streaming, gaming) can take too many more massive failures (Indiana Jones, Madam Web, Borderlands, the Acolyte, Rings of Power, Suicide Squad, Concord etc). Eventually they will be accountable to shareholders and will need to provide some winners. Seems to me that can only happen if they slow down and focus more on writing and content than on culture wars and attacking their own fan bases (See Deadpool and Wolverine, House of the Dragon, and BLack Myth Wukong).
I disagree we're getting the visual aesthetic. It looks more like the cancelled The Shannara Chronicles than Jackson's LotR or what Tolkien described. And that's not fair to ethe Shannara Chronicles which was mediocre, but not insanely bad as this!!! Bad casting in every respect (ie bad actors and world that looks more like West Hollywood than it does Tolkien's epic fantasy). Old-looking elves that are one step away from retirement? Terrible hair! Incredibly bad costuming in every respect. Badly choreographed fights. Anyway, I cancelled Amazon at the end of July, I am totally done with them.
I liked your discussion about the importance of knowing your franchise's target audience. Diane Galbadon's Outlander series is primarily a romance series aimed at women. Using the logic of Star Wars, trying to change its core to appeal to men is wise. Both franchises have fans outside their target demographic. Changing franchise's core themes and values to appeal to other demographics isn't always a good idea.
Modern social progressivism is extremely risk averse, so when it is infused into pop culture you don’t end up with interesting character arcs, tension, or actual stakes; you end up with a heavily sanitized product that says the right words and props up the right beliefs, but can’t risk doing anything wrong. These shows, movies, books, and games all end up the same: boring, pointless, and uninterested in storytelling or character development. In some cases the concept of character development is problematic because it implies a character that holds a protected identity could be fallible or in need of growth; they are perfect as they are by virtue of being whatever they are. Static characters and plotless stories that are sloppily told will fail. That these companies can’t grasp that is the wildest part of this discourse.
If they had better writing they could've balanced appealing to core audience and trying hit other audiences. I recently read two Star Wars books after watching The Acolyte, Star Wars: High Republic: Path of Deceit and Path of Vengeance- both books had more interesting stronger themes than The Acolyte. Also, it genuinely had good storyline.
The truth is, bro, that Hollywood is creatively bankrupt. They need fresh talent. Also, producers are taking the easy way by making re-makes, prequels, and sequels. No original content is coming out of Hollywood. Get rid of all these cgi crap.
Just read your Forbes article brother, VERY well written. New subscriber!
I LOVE Star Wars. I wanted to enjoy The Acolyte. I watched all the trailers and interviews leading up to it. By episode 3 I was embarrassed just watching it. It wasn’t a good show, and the viewership numbers are a reflection of that.
They could have released an acolyte graphic novel. If it doesn't cost 180 million and the marketing stresses that it's a different thing, then it you could break even and bypass people who are going to hate it. If the comic run is successful (ie. there's an audience for your plot), then you could create a TV adaptation. Comics can carve off little universes to do something different, but they'd rely on knowing how much a run costs and having a sense of what subset of the overall audience they need. Are they unfamiliar with the term "niche market"?
A petition is not a legally biding decree. A petition is nothing more than a request and does not require a response from the requestee.
These shows don't use establishing shots because time is a flat circle. If you don't understand that by now, you never will.
I used to have my wife and son sit and watch Star Wars movies and shows with me, but my wife had no interest in the acolyte and by the third or 4th episode my 7 year old quit asking when we were going to watch more. Disney is just making it so hard to be a fan these days.
There was nothing wrong with the Acolyte it just wasnt cannon which pisses alot of these nerds off!
How many signatures did it take for the Snyder cut?
Thank you stating the very obvious. I miss Star Wars. The obsession of making it all about women in the name of "diversity" is baffling to me. I'm not saying women/girls can't and shouldn't like it, or have stories they can relate to, I'm saying it's all about women/girls now and how girls are better/stronger. I mean I'm not crazy in this regard. Let's do a quick count (and some of these are GOOD movies/shows!): Rogue One - female lead. Force Awakens - female lead. Last Jedi - female lead. Solo - a buddy story among scoundrels ends up having a female co-lead one-up Han Solo at the end to break free of her man boss and show how dumb Solo is for loving her...huh? Mandalorian - male lead saved by female co-leads...Cara Dune and at some points should've called it Bo-Katan or Ahsoka. Ahsoka - female lead. Andor - Dedra female co-lead, but hey this was fairly well balanced and with great writing it was actually a compelling story - a rare exception to Disney Star Wars failures. Boba Fett - Fennec female co-lead. Obi-Wan Kenobi - female co-leads, should've been called Little Leia & Reva. Then of course, The Acolyte - a female jam-packed writing, acting, and directing disaster that nobody wanted. I was excited for a Dark Side focused show and what an utter waste of time and money! I miss STAR WARS. Stop with all the grrrrl power social messaging. I see your terrible grandstanding Disney and it's ridiculous. Stop making Star Wars all about women/girls, for girls - it's not working! Make something NEW in sci fi that might appeal to women. I feel like 5 random Star Wars fans, male and female, stuck in a room could've made a better show than the whole of Acolyte. Who on Earth is writing about this galaxy far, far away in such a ridiculous manner.
This sounds like the old boys like cars and girls like baby dolls argument.
@@ozymandiascakehole3586 sure, and statistically that's true. And when you're playing around with $180 million it makes good sense to understand who your audience is. Of course, as I went to painful lengths to explain, this is just a core demographic. It doesn't mean women can't enjoy Star Wars or men can't enjoy a rom-com.
It is true that boys like cars and girls like dolls though. Not all of course and children should have the option of playing with either.
@@ErikKainyou are too kind to this poster. You spent 18 minutes on a nuanced argument and they pat themselves on the back for being reductionist. This is why Star Wars is in the state it’s in
"Asokha* is an exception. I very much enjoyed it in the end, as each episode was better than the last. And it's been renewed. For the record, I detested Acolyte.
Pride and Prejudice from Darcy’s point of view
Numbers don't lie. Lowest viewing stats. Vocal minority is defending it. It's bad. It's garbage. It's ok to like trash but ppl just delude themselves into thinking It's Peak SW when it just isn't.
Andor was a good show compared to the Acolyte. But that show also had its weaknesses and bad episodes. Some very good performances and excellent dialogue saved it, but it also felt cheap and small.
This felt much more reductionist than usual. Even from just a corporate dollar perspective, your goal is to make everyone your consumer. You don't need to so much preach to the converted. The problem is just the making of a bad product.
@@Mateo2822 in order to make a good product, you need to understand your audience. You need to understand what drives your audience and what makes, in this case, the product engaging for your audience. Call it reductive, but it's still true. A good product that doesn't appeal to your core demographic will still likely not do well. Though obviously quality is at the heart of it all.
@@ErikKain But at this point I don't think the Star Wars franchise has to, or even probably should, pigeonhole itself. Andor was the least Star Wars-y product they've probably made, and it's also one of people's favorites of the past 10 years. A buddy of mine has a 8yo daughter who got huge into Ahsoka when they watched Clone Wars together. And Disney would love to expand their consumer base to both genders. So if they were only putting out 1 movie every 3 or 4 years, I think they really have to hard consider their primary audience and make sure their product speaks to them. But if it's a broader menu that's coming out semi-regularly, I don't see it as a problem if some of the products are more for one consumer base than the other. Like the Young Jedi adventures look very geared to young kids, not the older males, and that's ok. It's only problematic when the product isn't any good, really breaks the canon and/or identity of what the franchise is, and/or creates an offering mix that makes its primary demographic feel like they've then been abandoned. So I don't think the Fast & Furious franchise should put out an offering that's a film noir mystery. There isn't any room in that franchise identity for that product. But there is within the Star Wars universe to do lots of different stories. The problem arises when the focus is on the cast and not the script.
The problem is that Disney didn’t understand their target audience. They’ve pushed away the existing Star Wars fans, but they won’t attract a new audience either. The "shipper" fans, who focus on romantic pairings, will soon lose interest in The Acolyte and move on to other shows.
And the merchandise... Robots and starships don’t really belong in a typical girl’s room. Yet, they blame the so-called "dude bros" for all the negativity around the show while still expecting them to pay for their fantasies.
Nonsense, lots of women like Star Wars and liked having robots and star in their rooms. Most of these new shows are not aimed at those women either
@@julianaveale2578 Lots? Of those who ship characters? Enemy-to-lovers fans?
I agree to the second statement though.
Wait a minute. The Acolyte came & went and you're still going on & on about it....🤣🤣🤣 you must be hurting for material. Yes.?
Never forget: This show cost $180mil.
I bet more women watched Top Gun Maverick than Acolyte.
The thought of modern Hollywood pushing to make romance films exclusively for men is hilarious, especially when porn exists.
Right on
I take my girlfriend to porn theatres so she learns what i like.
You nailed it on the core demographic. I’d also offer up that Disney has never recovered from erasing the entire Skywalker family tree & its legacy, when the core demographic had waited for 35 years to finally see them Together(…), and as wise/powerful mentors passing the torch they carried some well for so long. Instead of passing the torch, the Disney characters were meant to overshadow them.
It's a very tried 99'99% failure rate method when an IP changes creators. And they never recover. Yet there's always some other idiot who will think it can work.
Tbf to Disney, I think only 1 out of 10 fans called out after tfa that they'd ruined the OT, most of the others went into denial (some still are). I'm not surprised Disney thought they had free rein with Luke afterwards... and anybody could have seen it coming the moment we knew who Kylo Ren was.
Proof the Acolyte has no fans:
(1) Anti-Acolyte RUclipsrs blamed for show's flop - where are the Pro-Acolyte RUclipsrs?
(2) Petition has just 80k pledges - This is not up to 1% of Star Wars fanbase or D+ subscribers.
(3) Despite Media outlets fawning over it, no one watched it.
(4) Despite high critic scores, no one watched it.
(5) It's unpopular on torrent sites - Mando S1 & S2 has more people seeding than the Acolyte does.
(6) No one in my country Nigeria is talking about the show - Yet, GOT that has less diversity is all the rage.
(7) It was cancelled.
Proof that most Star wars fans are pure nerds! Priceless.
As @ngineeredTheMind stated, 5 days ago, "Don't forget the 1.8 million signatures to remake game of thrones S8 that went nowhere."
Hey, I can weigh in here lol. (Used to be in the book publishing industry.) Genre romance used to be a billion dollar industry back when a billion meant something. And yes, it was largely women-centric and driven.
Since 2012 it has faced the same difficulties as all the other arts and entertainment, but is changing to fit the times to limited success. It still makes a lot of money, but isn’t in the halcyon 1980s-2000s anymore.
As a woman who has straddled both genres (romance and SFF), I think the problem “female SW” faces is that it is being made for and by a very small subset of people; roughly 3%-6% of the population.
When you go from making stuff for everyone, or even 50% of your audience, to 3%-6%, you see results like The Acolyte’s petition/viewership. Such a small percentage!
I have no beef with The Acolyte, or with those who make and consume SW shows, but I will never watch it. Because I may be a woman, but I’m both straight and old. And still wish it was truly made “for everyone” like in the past.
@@madgedoty1223 excellent point!
@@ErikKainAnd a tricky one. 😅 I truly don’t mean to offend, but I also really do think it boils down to this changed focus/intent. Hopefully I said it respectfully enough lol.
Great vid as always!
Great points!
As one of those women lifetime Star Wars fans, the whole inserting romance and sexuality into Star Wars baffles me.
The adorably colorful training Jedi, was a training Jedi. Why would she be in a relationship? That's not how any of this works.
If they wanted relationships they should have truly made an Acolyte show. I wanted to see the sith training and all that it involved. If there was some romance, as long as it fit into the show instead of being the show, sure.
I feel completely let down by Disney, Lucas Film, and all those involved. Teasing me with a genuine peek behind the curtain. A series from the sith side of the force. Maybe even getting a chance to see a bit more of characters who I am interested in. But instead I don't even know what this was. It wasn't Star Wars. It probably would have been better if it wasn't trying to fit into an IP without any open holes to fit into.
Star wars fans are generally too picky and nerdy to try anything off the beaten path of the series it's bad enough that Disney owns it but the Acolyte was different! I didn't see anything wrong with the series !
And some folks like to put grapes in their tuna fish sandwiches. When you put out a plate of those sandwiches and nobody’s eating them, don’t get angry, don’t call folks racists, just understand
The problem is the showrunners and writers just want to reinvent source materials in their own image and they just do such a bad job of it . I thought your article on The Winter King was dead on about this point. I liked the list of Arthurian books in the piece and would like to add one more The Coming of the King by Nikolai Tolstoy(there is a relation). It was published in 1989 with part one and we are still waiting for the sequels in the trilogy. The first book is quite evocative of a Celtic 5th century Britain fighting back a Saxon horde.
The Acolyte was a much more entertaining “bad watch” than Rings of Power.
No the fvck it wasn't
You broke this down to the most basic level. Using the romantic movie argument is brilliant. 🤜👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿
Good video. I also think it's important to say that Star Wars etc branching out like this would be fine if the franchise was healthy. Spin offs, asides, and niche products are perfectly fine if the main pipeline is thriving. It can be ignored by the uninterested. Instead, its just further evidence to those checking out of the franchise that they've made the right decision.
RoP's fast travel would put the kessel run in 12 parsecs to shame!
(I guess that's one proof that ignorant writing existed 50 years ago, but I don't think that's news to anyone about George Lucas)
They were celebrating 70k signatures like that was a good number. Their delusion runs deep
The sad truth is that Disney will rather sell star wars than make it "male" again. Enjoy the original trilogy and old comic books my friends, star wars is dead a long time ago...😢
I don’t watch many shows nowadays since I get more enjoyment from watching reviews like yours Erik.
The Acolyte was written by a Sith, about the Sith, for the Sith. For the self-centered, the self-inserters, the tokenizers.
The Sith hit the fans.
@@bjornh4664 You win the internet today.
You apparently can…make this Sith up
As a guy who does like romance and loves comedy, it's really sad that both genres are basically dead as far as movies go. When I was a teenager we were bombarded with rom-coms like every month. I big agree with what you're saying about demographics and saw a similar thing with Concord. The 13-25 year old male demographic is the overwhelming majority of first person twitch shooter players. Those character designs were so far from appealing to that audience, it didn't surprise me a bit how quickly that game flopped.
Hah, another great song!!!
Like you said, Star Wars CAN have broad appeal, but when those demographics for Star Wars viewers came out, even for the most female-forward projects they made, it was only more and more male viewership. The die-hard fans are the boys. The boys are ride or die. It's a shame that Star Wars isn't ride or die for us as well.
Getting your money's worth out of that udio AI music generation sub I see 🙂
Do you writhe the lyrics, or is that udio/ChatGPT?
@@poneill65 I write most of them. Sometimes I just prompt it.
@@ErikKain Cool. Nice to see creators using this stuff properly, to enhance their work!
The YT content mills that auto generate subjects, auto generate scripts, auto generate narrations and auto-generate collages of video libraries really get my goat!
Did you know someone started a Keep Star Wars The Acolyte Cancelled petition?
That’s funny! But to tell the truth, I’m more likely to sign the re-alive petition, because I so enjoy the RUclips takedowns.
I’m glad Forbes has caught up to where the Fandom Menace has been for 6 years :-)
@@geoffreypereira8024 six? Haha I've been saying this stuff much longer.
@@ErikKain Publicly?
Half intersted... whether Girl or boyfriend. Such a good take. Made total sense .
@@trimblestien thanks
I didn’t think the show was very good but those who like the show are valid and they are valid to be upset with it’s cancellation and there’s nothing wrong with petitions
I blame Disney for not making enough cool characters which they could have made merchandise out of for the fall of the series! 😢
You know this, I know this, why don't these highly paid executives know this?
The Kids In The Hall had a recurring skit called Cabbage Head. The main character, was a terrible person who just so happened to have a few cabbage leaves in place of his hair. Cabbage Head would do and say things completely inappropriate/off putting and dressed like a lounge singer. The skit often would have him in situations like a blind date and he would completely turn off and offend his date, only to lament that it was just because he had cabbage for hair and the date(and the world)was cruel to judge him for his affliction.
This Disney Star Wars awfulness fallout reminds me of Cabbage head.
When I hear the words "Acolyte Fans", my brain automatically translates it as "Disney Shills" and "Activist False Fans". Lucasfilm is so invested in the Fandom meance story that they actually believe their shows are getting no views because of online critics. So they think they can counter it with their own astroturf marketing through shills. Problem is their stories, characters, and plots are boring, uninteresting, barely related to Star Wars and are more intent on canon breaking then adding to the existing Star Wars universe. So the kind of people who liked the Lucas Star Wars content are not showing up for this poor quality wannabe universe laden bluntly with activist concerns that only affect a very few in society at large.
Star Wars isn't dead though. There are some good fan films out there. Just watched Scavenger Hunt the other day. It's in German, but still a fun watch, in fact when the Imperial Officers spoke it just seemed to fit.
Star Wars life is in the hands of the Rebellion now, small groups of fans making their own thing outside of the Disney Empire.
100%
I watched several Star Wars and Marvel shows with my wife, but I ended up not watching shows like Miss Marvel, and the Acolyte, and sure enough, she did not watch them either
3:35. The scene in A NEW HOPE where Luke (on his home planet) looks at the twin suns setting is considered to be one of the most beautiful shots in film history. The only visual effects are the twin suns, everything else is real. A CGI landscape would capture the stunning beauty of the same shot.
Amateur Hour using AI is actually a great description of both Acolyte and ROP. And they doing such damage to the brand, they’ve completely lost me as a fan… in fact I’m actively opposed now.
When I discuss around me, there are so many people that have not seen the postlogy, that have not seen any of the tvshows ... star wars was another era, I think it is time to let it rest for a time and come back to a new, fresh, trilogy, not related to the skywalkers, maybe in 10 years. remember when Star Wars was the event of a lifetime ? they should focus on video games, on books, ...
It's funny how people will go to these great lengths to "save" an expensive show, but couldn't be bothered to do something like try to get enough people to watch it to justify spending the money to keep producing the show.
"AI algorithm" is an interesting way of saying "feminist self-insert power fantasies"
They will need to buy starwars into public domain and fund their own films.
My Lady Jane had a finished story. So I'm fine with that even if the show was fun and enjoyable.
They need to make a romace for Elrond, the wookie and me. I'm starting a petition.
AI would’ve done a much, much better job.
ROP is vandalism of Tolkiens work
Very well said
Loved It!!!!
I'm not a big Acolyte guy but your petition vs petition logic is simply fake math. You would have to know many other numbers to be able to follow that way of thinking. One being the number of fans that saw these petitions. You're assuming much and portraying those assumptions as fact. Personally for me the Acolyte's premise and episode order was extremely disconnected to the viewer. That's ultimately why it failed. Still we need something of a season 2 since those characters now exist in canon , whether we like it or not. Yet we don't have any answers on what happened to them? How did they affect Star Wars history? Especially how they fit into the Skywalker saga? All questions left by season 1 of the Acolyte. Disney must address that situation. Maybe a season two isn't the answer but there must be answers. Especially since SW finally made Darth Plagueis an in canon character. I'm not saying bring back Lesyle Headland & her whole team. But again there are holes needed to be filled somehow now by Disney. Disney let the cat out of the bag by allowing the Acolyte to air. Now Disney's gotta deal with the cat in the room per say, lol.
Darth Plagueis was already an in canon character. Palpatine refers to him in Revenge of the Sith in his story to Anakin.
Its so frustrating seeing the mud slinging online between Star Wars fans. You have two groups that both love a property so much and yet Disney has radicalized them to the point that they hate each other. Disney's offerings have been *bad*. Sure, some shows made a small group of fans happy but the VAST MAJORITY & CORE DEMOGRAPHIC is not. They voice their unsatisfaction & Disney labels all of them "bigots & racists". People just want the property they love to be good again.
I’ve never heard of my lady Jane before, thank you
Have you not noticed that every single guy that hates on the Acolyte comes from exactly the same demographic. We know exactly what you’re going to say before you even open your mouth. It’s sooooo boring.
Wow, that’s some Panasonic PT-RQ25K level projection there.
I think you’ve got a log sticking out of your eye, sister.
I haven't seen the Acolyte but I feel as though I have after seeing so many people moaning about it. My take on from what I have heard is that it sounds pretty good. Star Wars should not be afraid of doing things differently. Who says that the Jedi are or always were perfect heroes? Who says we have all the understanding of the force? Why not have lesbian space witches? And as it was marketed as a Sith story, why not make a story that appeals to teen girls about a young woman who feels ignored when trying to do the right thing, then meets her own reflection who is cool af because she doesn't play by the rules? I think the failure of people to respond to a new take on an ageing nostalgia universe like Star Wars shows how truly conservative people's tastes are becoming.
"Star Wars should not be afraid of doing things differently."
Who says the Bridgerton needs to be about romance and women protagonists? Why not have more men, and way more action? Maybe throw in a naval battle.
@@MrVenona And The Acolyte is about being queer and growing up as a girl and focuses on women protagonists. It's heavily focused at young girls and the LGBT community. So what exactly is your point? You'd like more straight white men in The Acolyte? If you don't like it why not watch Andor, it's made for middle-aged white men, not twelve year old girls.
Innies vs outies!
First. =)
The amount the show cost ➗ by the amount of signatures in the partition equals, over $2million spent for each viewer. 🤑