Folks - I may have been a little premature in posting this review as not all suppliers yet have stock (it is new to the market) - give it a few days and check back, I'm assured all usual suppliers will have stock soon....
I won't buy Oxford anymore regardless on reviews, once lost the keys to a disk lock ... Took me a total of 5 seconds to remove it, last yeah I bought the first line of textiles they released, done maybe 1500 miles in 2 months and between the shoulder and elbow just started coming apart (Not even on stitching!) ... however this is due to my experience with their build quality, I don't trust them haha.
I tried this jacket on at the motorcycle show and it fitted very well if a bit short on the arm length given that I have monkey arms...it was very comfy not very thick so maybe the reviews could tell us what it's like in the cold and I don't mean 9'c lol
I've got the Alpinestars Andes Touring jacket and trousers and I have to say they're fantastic. Been using them for 3 years or so, and I think they cost me £300-£350 for the set. Doesn't leak, zip out thermal layers on both parts and really comfortable. Even good to use on my sports bike 👍🏻
Now that's something that you wouldn't need to ask twice, for your family to help with. Have you had a big sub surge over the last week's? You are exceptionally close to 100k subs. Congrats (now) and well deserved.
Glad you got around to posting this sooner than later. I bought the full kit last week, and put it to good use commuting to and from work for the past few days, its been a little chilly oooop norf, but the suit has kept me warm, might put the thermal liner in next week🤣🤣 . No rain test as yet but i'm sure it will happen. Nice one 👍
Thanks so much for the thorough review. I'd already just purchased this set and was wondering just how good it would actually be for the money, not having seen any reviews before I bought it (silly on my part I know) but this review has made me much happier about my purchase. So few reviews actually show it being used in all weather for real. So it's great to see you actually using this stuff. Thanks for your video it's a real relief.
I've just bought this kit, now I see your review, I seem to have made the right choice. Riding down to Greece soon, we'll see what it's like in the hot!
I use the Bmw GS rally jacket and trousers which are amazing for weather protection and looks great but. It’s the body armour that worries me I think if you hit the road it’s definitely a trip to get your bones repaired. I just feel slightly vulnerable in them. Your daughter would have enjoyed doing that more with a pressure washer lol👍
I have just received my Oxford wax jacket that I ordered from S.B.S. after watching your review, you weren't wrong, it's as you said and great value for money. Thanks.
Nice jacket, wish I had looked at those before buying my Rukka. Dam it! I think your assistant was in seventh heaven when you suggested that little clip.
My Alpinestars Andes V2 jacket and pants have the same type of construction, I love them. Last summer I got caught in a horrendous downpour during the start of a thunderstorm, I stayed totally dry.
Thanks for posting. Sounds like a great product. I appreciate you producing a separate video for the suit instead of incorporating the review into your Norway tour videos. In the spirit of transparency, it was not clear to me whether you purchased the suit, or if it was a tester suit lent/given to you by Oxford for you to review. Thanks again for posting.
Great review, thanks, based on this i have just bought this suit as a temp replacement for my Rukka that's had to go off for repair again (2nd time in five years) Lets see how it fairs through the Blighty winter!
Personally once you try a laminated textile suit, you'll never go back to layered systems! I'm on my second laminated suit as I commute as well as pleasure riding.
@@TheMissendenFlyer Yes, I have been for the last 3 yrs. Before that I used a Hein Gerrick laminated suit for ages until the lining became threadbear on both the jacket and the trousers. However I still use it during the summer as the Rukka suit is a bit thick for summer and doesn't have the ventilation. I've gotta say, I like the look of this Oxford suit, and for the price, it's a winner.
Just brought this with the recommendation from you 🤞 they work well, on blood bikes this weekend and it's supposed to rain so 🤞, hope your both ok and staying safe
I like Your Suit. I must say you guys wear really cool gear. I really don't know much about riding gears but I have seen these gear in Motofever when I was in Dubai and found something very very cool for me. "A RIDING SUIT" and the suit was like that was the thing I was waiting to buy for myself.
Tried a set of these on at the bike show last week. I liked them a lot. Three things to point out: the armour is not the top spec but you can change this of course, the back armour pocket is quite small so coverage is limited, and lastly, they don't do an XL long leg in the blue suit. Real shame as I would have bought them on the spot. I'm going to wait until they come into my local shop at Helmet City and have a look at the other colours that weren't at the bike show. I know it's not gortex blah, blah, blah but this is a great suit for the money. It's also very hard to find anywhere at the moment. The Oxford guy I spoke to expects more stock to be distributed by Xmas. That's handy!
Thanks for the timely review. I bought the Mondial Trousers (I've plenty of jackets) at the show last Wednesday but haven't had chance to try them yet.
I just got the jacket and think it's excellent. I have my CBT tomorrow and will be doing my DAS in winter. So I wanted a good jacket for the training. It's the fifth jacket I tried but have sent all the others back. As soon as I put the Oxford Mondial on it felt just right. It fits me well and has all the features I want such as waterproof without a liner, removable thermal liner, good pocket options and good ventilation. In fact it fits me better than all the other jackets I tried. I am 5ft 8", 38" or 39" chest and usually between a small and medium in clothing. The medium in this jacket fits me well. I would like the neck to close tighter and higher, which is a downside. But the only other criticism is that the jacket doesn't look very exciting. It's just a plain black jacket and doesn't look flashy. It's a tool to get a job done. Nothing more and nothing less. Maybe the grey, like yours, would have looked a little more exciting. But I'm happy with it. Of all the jackets I tried this was the best all rounder and the best value. I will probably now get the trousers because I'm impressed with the jacket.
1990 Yes, mine was brought around the same time and I have proofed it once or twice in that time and it’s still keeps the worse weather at bay. The only thing that has failed on my Rukka jacket is the back protector broke and the Rukka one I replaced it with has come apart in the middle. However I can either buy another back protector or bond the two pieces together somehow.
I purchased a pair of Oxford pants (not the Mondial) in August 2017. The seam split in November 17. Oxford did replace the pants in January 18, and I started using the new pair in April 18 when the weather cooled off. The second pair also split on the seam, in a different spot, by July 18. I have subsequently purchased a pair of Alpinestars laminated pants which to date have given me no cause for concern.
Agree about using a bonded textile suit. I've use a badlands klim suit and it's so good not to have to worry about carrying extra liners. Bit more expensive than this Oxford setup (🙄) but it's good to know that more manufacturers are now offering the same at cheaper price points.
Andy, I can’t believe it……I’m turning into you! I bought a GS recently; turns out that it’s identical to your red one. Then, without seeing this review, I bought some new textiles…..guess which? And in which colour? 😂. Keep up the good work!
One more thing that's awesome about laminate textiles is that once you've been in the wet weather for a while and then stopped it doesn't hold any water to speak of. Very good for commuting, in my old layered stuff i would get to work and then at the end of the day have to put on horrible soggy gear, with laminated stuff it dries almost straight away as the water is just on the surface
Excellent review Im looking to replace my trusty jacket of about 6 years looks like this one is perfect Many thanks and PS great channel keep up the great work
I wear the Oxford mondial jacket and trousers too. Super comfy in all conditions, great price. The Oxford back protector is only £25 online. (Absolute must in my opinion). Just great kit….
Waited a long time for this review and did not disappoint its going on my Christmas present list . When you said it is very light that sold it for me my RST is way to heavy Thank's again :)
This outfit seems to be similar in concept to the Aerostich jacket and trousers (made in Duluth, Minnesota USA) that I have been using for a number of years. You are sure right about the convenience of not having to stop to adjust your clothing to handle changing weather conditions when you wear an outfit such as these. The 'Stich motorcycle gear is fairly popular here.
I have just ordered the Jacket and Trousers off the back of your review, and using the links in description. I really do hope they are as waterproof as you say. looking forward to trying them out. cheers mate.
Thanks TMF, however water resistance is surely not the single most important aspect of motorcycle apparel? Unfortunately, abrasion and burst resistance rarely seem to be tested in gear reviews (other than by the likes of Ride mag etc,) and manufacturers seem to use the fitment of CE rated armour as a smokescreen for their products overall safety. There are CE standards for material abrasion resistance, seam strength etc, yet few manufactuers appear to submit their garments for testing, including some of the really high end brands such as Klim and Rukka. Personally, I feel it's time the industry got it's act together over this, so that the bike buying public can evaluate (objectively) whether their bike clothing is fit for purpose. A bin liner is waterproof - sticking some CE approved armour into it surely doesn't make it protective? Interestingly, I purchased a two piece riding suit from Aldi a couple of years ago for under £200, and the entire outfit (not merely the armour) is CE rated.....
@@hyperthunk oops, apologies for my waspish tone Tim! Aldi usually have their bike gear in stock for a limited period in spring. However, they didn't run it at my local store this year, so I'm wondering if they've dropped the annual bike promotion altogether. Shame if they have, as some (but by no means all) of their stuff is really very good and excellent value.
Having bought the Mondial suit as my first, proper biking gear (doing my DAS now) I can attest to the suit being brilliant. One less thing to worry about when learning to ride a motorbike!
I have the mondial jacket in black myself and absolutely love it. i removed the thermal lining for the summer, had the vents open, and didnt overheat or anything, it was really comfy. i fitted the thermal liner a few weeks ago and it's great now the mercury has dropped, so i concur with alll you said :), & i'm so happy i paid the extra for it than what i initially budgeted. It cost me £269 in the summer + back protector, but now the price has dropped to £199 at SBS, so it's great value. i'm in the market atm for warmer trousers rather than jeans with long johns so will take a look, but im not one to ride when it's raining and dont commute, so may opt for the duchinni pacific trousers, which look to provide value at less than a third the price, but im still undecided until i try them on, so thanks for the info
I bought this for my first riding suit, and it’s done the job, but after owning it for less than two years, I just rode about 80 miles in horrible British weather and the trousers are not waterproof. I’ve had to have a bath to warm my neither regions up. It’s ok for a bit, hence why this test works but, longer distance, nope. Like anything you get what you pay for, but if you do a lot of mileage and in bad weather, I’d spend my money else where.
We done the the NC500 wild rain when we crossed the top of Scotland at 60mph for 8 hrs Dianese, alpinestar everyone was soaked through, now carry a one piece over suit to go over my dianese waterproof gear!
Hi TMF. Well after further phone calls I found Fowlers in Bristol had limited stock, so I am now the proud owner of a Grey Mondial suit and I got a 20% Black Friday discount buying it this aftenoon. Also bought new Gore Tex boots as my old boots have been leaking badly. Can't wait to go out in the rain and cold to try it all!!. Did I really say that!
As a biker on a budget (and always have been for 25 years), I don’t think £450 is cheap! If you haven’t already TMF would you consider checking cheaper stuff out please. I wore an £85! Buffalo jacket for 100000m and it NEVER leaked. Still use it as a spare. Just saying...
Absolutely agree on that. My alpine stars jacket and trousers were £200 and £190 respectively, and they were premium brand clothes. My original jacket from when I started was budget; at just £60.
Been looking at this jacket for the last two years ‘umming and ahing’ as to whether I buy it or not. Recently reduced from £250 to £168 so had no reason not to get it. So far just as you described. Many thanks.
Excellent. I’ll be in the market for something like this. I have a mesh jacket for summer, relies on less than 40 degs heat. My other textile suit weighs a ton and the waterproof lining leaves you soaking in sweat. So I bought a waterproof over jacket to carry with me and have ditched the lining. I’d advise the daughter to use the pressure washer next time.
I have several jackets depending on the season and where I'm going. I have my touring jacket when I'm away for any length of time. Three layers. I normally only need the waterproof layer zipped in unless it gets very hot (Aussie here). I'm now a recreational motorcyclist, if the weather is shite, I don't ride. I have several Australian made Dririder jackets which are very good, including a mesh jacket in summer time. I still reckon for protection, you can't beat leather.
I wish this video was put out 6 months ago when I was purchasing my current “kit”. I don’t think the mrs would go for me getting another set.....maybe next summer I will give it a try😏
Whilst they seem OK I've had bad experiences with Oxford gear over time after use. I would recommend what I've always done and buy top of the line gear from a few years ago. My Alpinestar Goretex Pro suit should have been over £1k new. Cost me almost exaclty the same as the Oxford gear.
I've always work Rukka as it's the best all wether gear in my mind. This though has really made me think about my next purchase. Just over a third the price sounds amazing.
Love the reluctant assistant. Embarrassing your teenager is one of life's few pleasures. Next time you are in Bahnstormer check out the Enduroguard suit. Absolutely love my jacket, like putting on a super comfortable all weather suit of armour. Rrp is scary but they can be obtained at less than half that.
I bought one of these recently and on the first day of wearing it was tested in thirty miles of torrential rain. In itself it was waterproof, but despite being on an adventure bike, (so behind a screen) cold water found its way down the low neck of the jacket, bypassing all that clever laminated material. The other area where I was a little disappointed is the size of the (optional) back protector. It is 10 cms shorter than the back protector in my previous jacket and only protects the upper half of the spine. On the plus side it costs less than £200 and doesn't wet out like my previous jacket!
Hi Andy Took your advice and bought the new improved version of this suit and well impressed with it. I’d suggest to others to go one size up on the trousers as they seem to be a snug fit....or am I just getting fatter with this current lockdown 😳 Cheers Brian
looks a good piece of kit at a very good price .I have KLIM BADLANDS JACKET AND TROUSERS for just under 5 years trousers leaked after 4years just sent them back replaced seams good as new now just wondering what guarantee u got with these OXFORD JACKETS AND TROUSERS GREAT REVIEW
I'm currently planning on buying this set when I get my new PCX so its good to know its worth it, though I tend to get quite a lot of guff for wearing gear like this when I only ride 125cc mopeds.
Great review, seems like pretty good value for what you get, glad to see it has CE rated armor padding included. I also use a Knox mesh shirt with back & chest protectors, guess that could also be used with this jacket as well. Not having to faff with rain jackets is a great bonus. Cheers TMF :-)
Great review, I was pondering what to replace my ancient, but brilliant Hein Gereke stuff with, but felt reluctant to spend one million pounds on the newly fashionable adventure kit. 👍
Your timing is perfect (or is it really my timing?) I just purchased the Merlin Horizon 3 in 1 jacket and pants on Black Friday sale here in the States. Who knew I didn't need 3 different layers? My Aerostitch suit is 11 years old and still going strong but it is not waterproof, as I've found out on quite a few occasions. Well, might have to wait another decade to jump into today's tech. Story of my life. ;)
Thanks TMF. I have been waiting for this review for many weeks now. It looks an excellent buy for the price and speaking to friends even the £1000 jackets start to leak after a few years. I would rather spend £450 and replace after 4 years than £1400 and replace after 5 years. Only problem is the new suits are not generally available yet but I was told by Oxford that more stock is expected very soon
TMF firstly let me say I love your channel, keep up the sterling work. 😎 However I purchased the Mondial suit just over a month ago and it's now leaking in the seat area. The dealer (Infinity) are going to send the suit back to oxford under warranty but the staff informed me they have had quite a few suits returned for leaking. Hopefully the new suit will be "as advertised" waterproof. 🤞🤞🤞
- How does it dry? Does it drip for a few hours until it dries up a bit? With regular rain gear you can just shake it a bit and it's mostly dry. I suspect this stays moist on the outside for a while, which will make walking around in it in buildings and such a bit inconvenient. Also after taking it off you probably need to hang it to dry? Can't lay it on anything as it will leave a wet spot. It's all fine and dandy when returning home or to a hotel, but might prove a bit uncomfortable when camping for example. - I have to say I feel a bit sceptical about it not being too hot in summer. My regular, non-waterproof jacket with good venting (just zipper vents, no panel vents like this has) is a bit on the toasty side in 30* heat, this I imagine would be unbearable, but maybe the membranes do their job. - Bit of a shame you didn't test out the thermal liner. I get the point that a separate jacket might be a better option, but when you're testing gear it would be nice to get a feel for the entire thing as designed and sold. - As others have mentioned - will it last though? When the membrane gives at some point the whole thing is useless. All that said the price is really great and since you've tested it really is waterproof it'a a great option for all those unsure weather days. Will defo have a look once it's available somewhere around here.
My experience with Oxford products isn’t a particularly good one, most of the items I’ve owned have failed pretty quickly so I’d be interested in a longer term review after a couple of years of heavy use TMF.
I've never experienced a motorbike waterproof that is truly waterproof or indeed breathable, particularly the rubbish one piece over suit packamac type things. I think the best out there is the American Aerostitch brand over clothing suits but they're really expensive and have practical downsides. These seem great!
Good review!....and I'm sure junior TMF enjoyed it!. The other great thing about the laminated gear is the lack of bulk. I do the same as you re the liner...i never use it, just have a good quality, slim puffa jacket underneath. It's great when you work out a set of gear that does what you want! Steve
Hi the colour of your jacket is it tech grey , in sports bike and other suppliers that’s comes up as tech green, I agree that the your jacket you have is grey , don’t want to buy wrong colour thanks paul miller
Looks good, although I tend to wear over jackets anyway because I find riding everyday no matter how good the textile jackets are they become very grubby. Also having an extra layer helps so much with keeping the wind out. Maybe I'm just not spending enough?! 🤣
ordered one of these at motorcycle live yesterday show price £400. I wanted to ask you Mr Flyer about the suit but you were busy talking at your hub, anyway you made a video thankyou
Thank you for the review. I find it useful as you ve tested it yourself for quite some time. It is so much more than any promotional material. I ve got one remark though: 22 C is not at all hot weather :) I am especially concerned about laminated suit performance in higher temperatures such as 30-35 C. For colder months and rainy days it seems to be doing its job. You ve mentioned that you ve been using this kit in Spain as well. How was it performing over there?
Very good - the ventilation on the the kit is also excellent (BTW in Norway and Germany I wore this in temperatures up to 30 degrees C - it was hot, but doable...)
Hello Mr Flyer. Great review. I don’t know if someone has already asked the question. How do you clean and look after you Mondial. I not on the tab it says hand wash at 30oC. Do you put it in the washing machine? Thanks
What gloves do you wear with this setup and how do you stop water ingressing via your neck, I’m down in Cornwall and ride everyday, sometimes long rides and I cannot seem to stop the water increasing via my neck and my gloves even though they say waterproof are always like lead weights. Thank you for your excellent videos.
A very comprehensive test MF and for the price what's not to like- I can see this being a top seller. Time will tell on what the quality is like compared to Rukka etc but at around a quarter of the price it'll bring laminated kit to many bikers who would otherwise have to compromise. Where as the oxford is an all year round suit my Rukka stuff is a tad warm during summer so that's another thing in the Oxfords favour., though the protection on the Rukka stuff is first rate (not that I've had to try it out) so I'd suspect the D30 armour and cordura/Kevlar type construction on the Rukka might have the edge there which you'd expect beings it is so expensive. One thing you didn't mention where all the laminate suits win over the lined ones is how quickly they dry out as the outer doesn't get so wet. That's a real plus for commuters or bikers going on tour as when you put you kit on again to either ride home on a commute or the next morning on tour after being out in the rain the suit is much drier-often completely dry while the traditional stuff is still wet.
Jacket is warm, waterproof and its cheap for a laminated without DWR treatment. It has as a waterproof membrane laminated to the outer liner called dry2dry with a 10000mm hydrostatic head which is less than 1/3 of the 28000mm not 3xs more expensive stay dry for 11 hours shifts under heavy stormy rains (not 2 or 3h like this one) goretex pro laminated 3l membranes. This jacket because it doesn't have a DWR (Durable Water Repellent) treatment on the outer liner soaks up loads of water and stays wet for 2 to 3 days depending on your house's temperature. Sent back and will never buy a non laminated goretex pro jacket without a DWR treatment on the outer again as without this it gets soaked and takes 2 to 3 days to dry without using the heater as required which is not good for professional every day use but for an occasional sunday greenlaning outing should be fine. You get what you pay for.
Folks - I may have been a little premature in posting this review as not all suppliers yet have stock (it is new to the market) - give it a few days and check back, I'm assured all usual suppliers will have stock soon....
I won't buy Oxford anymore regardless on reviews, once lost the keys to a disk lock ... Took me a total of 5 seconds to remove it, last yeah I bought the first line of textiles they released, done maybe 1500 miles in 2 months and between the shoulder and elbow just started coming apart (Not even on stitching!) ... however this is due to my experience with their build quality, I don't trust them haha.
I tried this jacket on at the motorcycle show and it fitted very well if a bit short on the arm length given that I have monkey arms...it was very comfy not very thick so maybe the reviews could tell us what it's like in the cold and I don't mean 9'c lol
Is this the nerd channel?, I think I’m lost
Neighbour looks out of her bedroom window and shouts through to her huaband " you'll never guess what he's doing now "🤣
Excellent
I don't believe it !!
@@roadwarrior8560 Victor Flyer👍
@@roadwarrior8560 "I got that reference!"
Very nice. When a Brit says something is waterproof, it is waterproof.
The guy (or girl) who designs 100% waterproof motorcycling clothing will receive the Nobel Peace Prize.
@@jurgentreue1200 the only thing that is breathable and waterproof is an umbrella!!
I'll just wear a bin liner, it's in my price range.
lol
I've got the Alpinestars Andes Touring jacket and trousers and I have to say they're fantastic. Been using them for 3 years or so, and I think they cost me £300-£350 for the set. Doesn't leak, zip out thermal layers on both parts and really comfortable. Even good to use on my sports bike 👍🏻
Ordered mine yesterday before I viewed this and I’m even more happy now, thanks
Nice one - good kit! Great value, comfortable and works well…
Now that's something that you wouldn't need to ask twice, for your family to help with. Have you had a big sub surge over the last week's? You are exceptionally close to 100k subs. Congrats (now) and well deserved.
...actually my daily subs of late have gone down a little....but I'm glad to say the general direction is up!
Glad you got around to posting this sooner than later. I bought the full kit last week, and put it to good use commuting to and from work for the past few days, its been a little chilly oooop norf, but the suit has kept me warm, might put the thermal liner in next week🤣🤣 . No rain test as yet but i'm sure it will happen. Nice one 👍
Thanks so much for the thorough review. I'd already just purchased this set and was wondering just how good it would actually be for the money, not having seen any reviews before I bought it (silly on my part I know) but this review has made me much happier about my purchase. So few reviews actually show it being used in all weather for real. So it's great to see you actually using this stuff. Thanks for your video it's a real relief.
Great value kit!
The wife was keen to know what I wanted from Santa, so I showed her your brilliant review. Santa did indeed bring me a mondial suit, cushti!
Seemingly most excellent kit. Nice that you don't have to spend mega bucks for top kit. And it's British. Simply superb.
I've just bought this kit, now I see your review, I seem to have made the right choice. Riding down to Greece soon, we'll see what it's like in the hot!
I use the Bmw GS rally jacket and trousers which are amazing for weather protection and looks great but. It’s the body armour that worries me I think if you hit the road it’s definitely a trip to get your bones repaired. I just feel slightly vulnerable in them. Your daughter would have enjoyed doing that more with a pressure washer lol👍
Wish I'd thought of that!! Great to hear from you again...it's been a while!
I have just received my Oxford wax jacket that I ordered from S.B.S. after watching your review, you weren't wrong, it's as you said and great value for money. Thanks.
They're good aren't they!
Nice jacket, wish I had looked at those before buying my Rukka. Dam it!
I think your assistant was in seventh heaven when you suggested that little clip.
Yeah, she did seem to enjoy it a little too much....
My Alpinestars Andes V2 jacket and pants have the same type of construction, I love them. Last summer I got caught in a horrendous downpour during the start of a thunderstorm, I stayed totally dry.
Thanks for posting. Sounds like a great product. I appreciate you producing a separate video for the suit instead of incorporating the review into your Norway tour videos. In the spirit of transparency, it was not clear to me whether you purchased the suit, or if it was a tester suit lent/given to you by Oxford for you to review. Thanks again for posting.
Great review, thanks, based on this i have just bought this suit as a temp replacement for my Rukka that's had to go off for repair again (2nd time in five years)
Lets see how it fairs through the Blighty winter!
Let us know the outcome
Well just bought my Oxford Mondial Advance Gear and yes I can say it’s warm and comfortable now I just need rain so won’t need to wait long 👍👍
Gavin Fraser how is it in the rain ☔️ is the suit as good as this review ? Thanks for any info
I have an older laminated Alpinestars Andes set and it's fantastic. Keeps me proper warm in winter, dry too.
Personally once you try a laminated textile suit, you'll never go back to layered systems! I'm on my second laminated suit as I commute as well as pleasure riding.
Exactly Rob....you're a Rukka man aren't you?
@@TheMissendenFlyer Yes, I have been for the last 3 yrs. Before that I used a Hein Gerrick laminated suit for ages until the lining became threadbear on both the jacket and the trousers. However I still use it during the summer as the Rukka suit is a bit thick for summer and doesn't have the ventilation. I've gotta say, I like the look of this Oxford suit, and for the price, it's a winner.
Just brought this with the recommendation from you 🤞 they work well, on blood bikes this weekend and it's supposed to rain so 🤞, hope your both ok and staying safe
I like Your Suit. I must say you guys wear really cool gear. I really don't know much about riding gears but I have seen these gear in Motofever when I was in Dubai and found something very very cool for me. "A RIDING SUIT" and the suit was like that was the thing I was waiting to buy for myself.
What a great idea for a new series. You get a subscriber to come in with their suit and you hose them down to test the water resistance of their gear!
Sadly only 3% of my subscribers are female! .....or wast that what you had in mind?
TheMissendenFlyer 😱 Perish the thought!
Tried a set of these on at the bike show last week. I liked them a lot. Three things to point out: the armour is not the top spec but you can change this of course, the back armour pocket is quite small so coverage is limited, and lastly, they don't do an XL long leg in the blue suit. Real shame as I would have bought them on the spot. I'm going to wait until they come into my local shop at Helmet City and have a look at the other colours that weren't at the bike show. I know it's not gortex blah, blah, blah but this is a great suit for the money. It's also very hard to find anywhere at the moment. The Oxford guy I spoke to expects more stock to be distributed by Xmas. That's handy!
Do you remember if there is a mesh lining in the pieces after you remove the thermal layer?
Excellent timing, I'm just looking today for some cyber Monday deals on some new gear. great review thanks.
Thanks for the timely review. I bought the Mondial Trousers (I've plenty of jackets) at the show last Wednesday but haven't had chance to try them yet.
That is fantastic value ,I particularly like the fact that you can where in dry weather and as you said your already kitted out for rain and cold 👍👍🏍😎
That's the cleanest GS I have seen outside a showroom, well done.
I just got the jacket and think it's excellent. I have my CBT tomorrow and will be doing my DAS in winter. So I wanted a good jacket for the training. It's the fifth jacket I tried but have sent all the others back. As soon as I put the Oxford Mondial on it felt just right. It fits me well and has all the features I want such as waterproof without a liner, removable thermal liner, good pocket options and good ventilation. In fact it fits me better than all the other jackets I tried. I am 5ft 8", 38" or 39" chest and usually between a small and medium in clothing. The medium in this jacket fits me well.
I would like the neck to close tighter and higher, which is a downside. But the only other criticism is that the jacket doesn't look very exciting. It's just a plain black jacket and doesn't look flashy. It's a tool to get a job done. Nothing more and nothing less. Maybe the grey, like yours, would have looked a little more exciting. But I'm happy with it. Of all the jackets I tried this was the best all rounder and the best value. I will probably now get the trousers because I'm impressed with the jacket.
That’s really good value. I looked at replacing my Rukka jacket recently and it’s about £1000 just for the jacket. I’ll have to give this suit a look.
1990 Yes, mine was brought around the same time and I have proofed it once or twice in that time and it’s still keeps the worse weather at bay. The only thing that has failed on my Rukka jacket is the back protector broke and the Rukka one I replaced it with has come apart in the middle. However I can either buy another back protector or bond the two pieces together somehow.
I purchased a pair of Oxford pants (not the Mondial) in August 2017. The seam split in November 17. Oxford did replace the pants in January 18, and I started using the new pair in April 18 when the weather cooled off. The second pair also split on the seam, in a different spot, by July 18.
I have subsequently purchased a pair of Alpinestars laminated pants which to date have given me no cause for concern.
Agree about using a bonded textile suit. I've use a badlands klim suit and it's so good not to have to worry about carrying extra liners. Bit more expensive than this Oxford setup (🙄) but it's good to know that more manufacturers are now offering the same at cheaper price points.
The Klim is a nice looking top and I'm sure it's worth every penny. But, it's $1,000. This top looks to be available on Amazon for under $200.
Andy, I can’t believe it……I’m turning into you! I bought a GS recently; turns out that it’s identical to your red one. Then, without seeing this review, I bought some new textiles…..guess which? And in which colour? 😂. Keep up the good work!
Clearly a man of great taste...
One more thing that's awesome about laminate textiles is that once you've been in the wet weather for a while and then stopped it doesn't hold any water to speak of. Very good for commuting, in my old layered stuff i would get to work and then at the end of the day have to put on horrible soggy gear, with laminated stuff it dries almost straight away as the water is just on the surface
Good point!
i recently purchased the oxford copenhagen jacket and rp2 gloves,very very impressed by them and there not silly expensive like most are!!
Excellent review Im looking to replace my trusty jacket of about 6 years looks like this one is perfect Many thanks and PS great channel keep up the great work
Cheers Steve...
I wear the Oxford mondial jacket and trousers too. Super comfy in all conditions, great price. The Oxford back protector is only £25 online. (Absolute must in my opinion). Just great kit….
Had to slightly trim the hip armour on the trousers as it was tucking under onto my GS saddle. Super comfy now though…
The way the Oxford back protectors fit into their jackets is garbage though. Give me a pocket to put them in anyday.
Waited a long time for this review and did not disappoint its going on my Christmas present list . When you said it is very light that sold it for me my RST is way to heavy Thank's again :)
It's incredibly light compared to the RST (which I had before this) - I loved it, but this is better in my view....
@@TheMissendenFlyer Matches the GS as well :)
Excellent in depth review. Thanks Andy.
Very welcome
This outfit seems to be similar in concept to the Aerostich jacket and trousers (made in Duluth, Minnesota USA) that I have been using for a number of years. You are sure right about the convenience of not having to stop to adjust your clothing to handle changing weather conditions when you wear an outfit such as these. The 'Stich motorcycle gear is fairly popular here.
I have just ordered the Jacket and Trousers off the back of your review, and using the links in description. I really do hope they are as waterproof as you say. looking forward to trying them out. cheers mate.
Still love mine, I think you'll be impressed with them!
Good to know cheers mate 👍
A thorough review as always TMF and you're suffering for your art at the end there! Great work 👍🏻
One tries.....
Thanks for the advice TMF my wife is sold on the jacket! Safe riding!
Thanks TMF, however water resistance is surely not the single most important aspect of motorcycle apparel? Unfortunately, abrasion and burst resistance rarely seem to be tested in gear reviews (other than by the likes of Ride mag etc,) and manufacturers seem to use the fitment of CE rated armour as a smokescreen for their products overall safety. There are CE standards for material abrasion resistance, seam strength etc, yet few manufactuers appear to submit their garments for testing, including some of the really high end brands such as Klim and Rukka. Personally, I feel it's time the industry got it's act together over this, so that the bike buying public can evaluate (objectively) whether their bike clothing is fit for purpose. A bin liner is waterproof - sticking some CE approved armour into it surely doesn't make it protective?
Interestingly, I purchased a two piece riding suit from Aldi a couple of years ago for under £200, and the entire outfit (not merely the armour) is CE rated.....
Yep good point.....
Aldi...?
@@hyperthunk brand snob?.....
@@bazerwazer6180 no, I just didn't know you could buy bike gear there. I thought it was just a supermarket - my local never has clothing on sale.
@@hyperthunk oops, apologies for my waspish tone Tim! Aldi usually have their bike gear in stock for a limited period in spring. However, they didn't run it at my local store this year, so I'm wondering if they've dropped the annual bike promotion altogether. Shame if they have, as some (but by no means all) of their stuff is really very good and excellent value.
Having bought the Mondial suit as my first, proper biking gear (doing my DAS now) I can attest to the suit being brilliant.
One less thing to worry about when learning to ride a motorbike!
I have the mondial jacket in black myself and absolutely love it. i removed the thermal lining for the summer, had the vents open, and didnt overheat or anything, it was really comfy. i fitted the thermal liner a few weeks ago and it's great now the mercury has dropped, so i concur with alll you said :), & i'm so happy i paid the extra for it than what i initially budgeted. It cost me £269 in the summer + back protector, but now the price has dropped to £199 at SBS, so it's great value. i'm in the market atm for warmer trousers rather than jeans with long johns so will take a look, but im not one to ride when it's raining and dont commute, so may opt for the duchinni pacific trousers, which look to provide value at less than a third the price, but im still undecided until i try them on, so thanks for the info
Love the bit at the end, tmf is a real clean freak. Like this product, as I am an all year rider.
Impressive kit that you have certainly tested thoroughly; one to consider when replacing my current textile suit👍
I bought this for my first riding suit, and it’s done the job, but after owning it for less than two years, I just rode about 80 miles in horrible British weather and the trousers are not waterproof. I’ve had to have a bath to warm my neither regions up. It’s ok for a bit, hence why this test works but, longer distance, nope.
Like anything you get what you pay for, but if you do a lot of mileage and in bad weather, I’d spend my money else where.
We done the the NC500 wild rain when we crossed the top of Scotland at 60mph for 8 hrs Dianese, alpinestar everyone was soaked through, now carry a one piece over suit to go over my dianese waterproof gear!
Goretex Pro is the key!
@@TheMissendenFlyer thanks, your videos are keeping me going, of work with man flu luckily nothing more serious. Keep up the good work
Great review. Thanks TMF. Will definitely consider this kit when the time comes.
Nicely done TMF. I like the understated look too.
Yeah me too...not too Charley and Ewan....and limited Oxford branding.
That last demonstration was excellent, especially after reading Captain Average's comment 😂
I may have to look into getting into some of these, Flyer! Great video as always.
Hi TMF. Well after further phone calls I found Fowlers in Bristol had limited stock, so I am now the proud owner of a Grey Mondial suit and I got a 20% Black Friday discount buying it this aftenoon. Also bought new Gore Tex boots as my old boots have been leaking badly. Can't wait to go out in the rain and cold to try it all!!. Did I really say that!
As a biker on a budget (and always have been for 25 years), I don’t think £450 is cheap! If you haven’t already TMF would you consider checking cheaper stuff out please. I wore an £85! Buffalo jacket for 100000m and it NEVER leaked. Still use it as a spare.
Just saying...
Nice one!
I've had cheaper motorbikes than that jacket
Absolutely agree on that. My alpine stars jacket and trousers were £200 and £190 respectively, and they were premium brand clothes. My original jacket from when I started was budget; at just £60.
Me too, I wear buffalo and it's great.
Ok
Great review, very informative as always. Great channel keep up the good work.
Well said , excellent value . Why people spend well over £2000 for Klim jacket ( which leak by all accounts) and trousers is beyond me !.
Thumbs up for the awesome assistant work.
Thanks 👍
Been looking at this jacket for the last two years ‘umming and ahing’ as to whether I buy it or not. Recently reduced from £250 to £168 so had no reason not to get it. So far just as you described. Many thanks.
Nice one - great value at that price!
Excellent. I’ll be in the market for something like this. I have a mesh jacket for summer, relies on less than 40 degs heat. My other textile suit weighs a ton and the waterproof lining leaves you soaking in sweat. So I bought a waterproof over jacket to carry with me and have ditched the lining. I’d advise the daughter to use the pressure washer next time.
I have several jackets depending on the season and where I'm going. I have my touring jacket when I'm away for any length of time. Three layers. I normally only need the waterproof layer zipped in unless it gets very hot (Aussie here).
I'm now a recreational motorcyclist, if the weather is shite, I don't ride. I have several Australian made Dririder jackets which are very good, including a mesh jacket in summer time.
I still reckon for protection, you can't beat leather.
I wish this video was put out 6 months ago when I was purchasing my current “kit”. I don’t think the mrs would go for me getting another set.....maybe next summer I will give it a try😏
Whilst they seem OK I've had bad experiences with Oxford gear over time after use. I would recommend what I've always done and buy top of the line gear from a few years ago. My Alpinestar Goretex Pro suit should have been over £1k new. Cost me almost exaclty the same as the Oxford gear.
Being waterproof where you live is important, I personally never ride in the rain if i can help it.
I need an air-conditioned suit where I live.....
Naa....
@Modustollens1 We just call it circumcision here, it tends to shock the elderly relatives less.
Well that's my new suit sorted, thank you!
Love the idea of an adjustable neck closure instead of b****y Velcro!!
I've always work Rukka as it's the best all wether gear in my mind. This though has really made me think about my next purchase. Just over a third the price sounds amazing.
Exactly my point!
Gary Taylor got to agree Rukka (and Klim) is the best. You get what you pay for.
My Rukka always kept me wet...
@@janra8653 mines bullet proof never let's a drop in. While mates are hoping into wet I sit with smile on face.
Bet your daughter enjoyed that, can we all come round and have a go.
Thats great value, I like Oxford kit was well pleased with their 'Hardy' jacket.
Yes I have to say that and this are some of the best bike kit I've used - they don't pay me to say good stuff about them by the way!
“The Stig” flash back during the hose bit.
Love the reluctant assistant. Embarrassing your teenager is one of life's few pleasures.
Next time you are in Bahnstormer check out the Enduroguard suit.
Absolutely love my jacket, like putting on a super comfortable all weather suit of armour. Rrp is scary but they can be obtained at less than half that.
...in fact she volunteered!
I bought one of these recently and on the first day of wearing it was tested in thirty miles of torrential rain. In itself it was waterproof, but despite being on an adventure bike, (so behind a screen) cold water found its way down the low neck of the jacket, bypassing all that clever laminated material. The other area where I was a little disappointed is the size of the (optional) back protector. It is 10 cms shorter than the back protector in my previous jacket and only protects the upper half of the spine. On the plus side it costs less than £200 and doesn't wet out like my previous jacket!
So overall decent value for money or not??
@@TheMissendenFlyer Certainly decent value for the money so long as it lasts for a couple of years!
Hi Andy
Took your advice and bought the new improved version of this suit and well impressed with it. I’d suggest to others to go one size up on the trousers as they seem to be a snug fit....or am I just getting fatter with this current lockdown 😳
Cheers
Brian
looks a good piece of kit at a very good price .I have KLIM BADLANDS JACKET AND TROUSERS for just under 5 years trousers leaked after 4years just sent them back replaced seams good as new now just wondering what guarantee u got with these OXFORD JACKETS AND TROUSERS GREAT REVIEW
I'm currently planning on buying this set when I get my new PCX so its good to know its worth it, though I tend to get quite a lot of guff for wearing gear like this when I only ride 125cc mopeds.
Great review, seems like pretty good value for what you get, glad to see it has CE rated armor padding included. I also use a Knox mesh shirt with back & chest protectors, guess that could also be used with this jacket as well. Not having to faff with rain jackets is a great bonus. Cheers TMF :-)
Great review, I was pondering what to replace my ancient, but brilliant Hein Gereke stuff with, but felt reluctant to spend one million pounds on the newly fashionable adventure kit. 👍
Your timing is perfect (or is it really my timing?) I just purchased the Merlin Horizon 3 in 1 jacket and pants on Black Friday sale here in the States. Who knew I didn't need 3 different layers? My Aerostitch suit is 11 years old and still going strong but it is not waterproof, as I've found out on quite a few occasions. Well, might have to wait another decade to jump into today's tech. Story of my life. ;)
Thanks TMF. I have been waiting for this review for many weeks now. It looks an excellent buy for the price and speaking to friends even the £1000 jackets start to leak after a few years.
I would rather spend £450 and replace after 4 years than £1400 and replace after 5 years.
Only problem is the new suits are not generally available yet but I was told by Oxford that more stock is expected very soon
Yes "third week of November" I was told.....
TMF firstly let me say I love your channel, keep up the sterling work. 😎
However I purchased the Mondial suit just over a month ago and it's now leaking in the seat area. The dealer (Infinity) are going to send the suit back to oxford under warranty but the staff informed me they have had quite a few suits returned for leaking. Hopefully the new suit will be "as advertised" waterproof. 🤞🤞🤞
Oh dear, sorry to hear that, mine never let me down for the period I used it as my prime kit.....
22 Deg is not hot TMF that's a mild spring/autumn day. 30+ is getting warm, 40+ is hot. Cheers from Australia
Great in-depth review does the jacket and trousers zip together and it looks great nice price as Well thanks Tony
They do indeed....
- How does it dry? Does it drip for a few hours until it dries up a bit? With regular rain gear you can just shake it a bit and it's mostly dry. I suspect this stays moist on the outside for a while, which will make walking around in it in buildings and such a bit inconvenient. Also after taking it off you probably need to hang it to dry? Can't lay it on anything as it will leave a wet spot. It's all fine and dandy when returning home or to a hotel, but might prove a bit uncomfortable when camping for example.
- I have to say I feel a bit sceptical about it not being too hot in summer. My regular, non-waterproof jacket with good venting (just zipper vents, no panel vents like this has) is a bit on the toasty side in 30* heat, this I imagine would be unbearable, but maybe the membranes do their job.
- Bit of a shame you didn't test out the thermal liner. I get the point that a separate jacket might be a better option, but when you're testing gear it would be nice to get a feel for the entire thing as designed and sold.
- As others have mentioned - will it last though? When the membrane gives at some point the whole thing is useless.
All that said the price is really great and since you've tested it really is waterproof it'a a great option for all those unsure weather days. Will defo have a look once it's available somewhere around here.
My experience with Oxford products isn’t a particularly good one, most of the items I’ve owned have failed pretty quickly so I’d be interested in a longer term review after a couple of years of heavy use TMF.
I've never experienced a motorbike waterproof that is truly waterproof or indeed breathable, particularly the rubbish one piece over suit packamac type things. I think the best out there is the American Aerostitch brand over clothing suits but they're really expensive and have practical downsides. These seem great!
That is one heck of a price if it does all of that... You've got me thinking about my own kit, Mr flyer
Good review!....and I'm sure junior TMF enjoyed it!. The other great thing about the laminated gear is the lack of bulk. I do the same as you re the liner...i never use it, just have a good quality, slim puffa jacket underneath. It's great when you work out a set of gear that does what you want! Steve
Isn't it....shame you have to go through so much kit to work it out!
Hi the colour of your jacket is it tech grey , in sports bike and other suppliers that’s comes up as tech green, I agree that the your jacket you have is grey , don’t want to buy wrong colour thanks paul miller
Looks good, although I tend to wear over jackets anyway because I find riding everyday no matter how good the textile jackets are they become very grubby. Also having an extra layer helps so much with keeping the wind out. Maybe I'm just not spending enough?! 🤣
ordered one of these at motorcycle live yesterday show price £400. I wanted to ask you Mr Flyer about the suit but you were busy talking at your hub, anyway you made a video thankyou
Sorry I missed you - very busy day yesterday!
What no spray foam before the final rinse? then a coat of ACF-50
Thank you for the review. I find it useful as you ve tested it yourself for quite some time. It is so much more than any promotional material. I ve got one remark though: 22 C is not at all hot weather :) I am especially concerned about laminated suit performance in higher temperatures such as 30-35 C. For colder months and rainy days it seems to be doing its job.
You ve mentioned that you ve been using this kit in Spain as well. How was it performing over there?
Very good - the ventilation on the the kit is also excellent (BTW in Norway and Germany I wore this in temperatures up to 30 degrees C - it was hot, but doable...)
Hello Mr Flyer. Great review. I don’t know if someone has already asked the question. How do you clean and look after you Mondial. I not on the tab it says hand wash at 30oC. Do you put it in the washing machine? Thanks
I do yes....maybe not what you're supposed to do.....
Do's the water bead of the the material or make it a tad heavy ? Great video as ever 👍
Just gone on my Xmas list! I've been a very good boy this year.
Hi TMF my wife and her mom are thinking about geting me suit how is it after two years now thanks Mick
Still going strong!
What gloves do you wear with this setup and how do you stop water ingressing via your neck, I’m down in Cornwall and ride everyday, sometimes long rides and I cannot seem to stop the water increasing via my neck and my gloves even though they say waterproof are always like lead weights. Thank you for your excellent videos.
A very comprehensive test MF and for the price what's not to like- I can see this being a top seller. Time will tell on what the quality is like compared to Rukka etc but at around a quarter of the price it'll bring laminated kit to many bikers who would otherwise have to compromise. Where as the oxford is an all year round suit my Rukka stuff is a tad warm during summer so that's another thing in the Oxfords favour., though the protection on the Rukka stuff is first rate (not that I've had to try it out) so I'd suspect the D30 armour and cordura/Kevlar type construction on the Rukka might have the edge there which you'd expect beings it is so expensive. One thing you didn't mention where all the laminate suits win over the lined ones is how quickly they dry out as the outer doesn't get so wet. That's a real plus for commuters or bikers going on tour as when you put you kit on again to either ride home on a commute or the next morning on tour after being out in the rain the suit is much drier-often completely dry while the traditional stuff is still wet.
At last!!! yep got this suit ...love it.
Told you it was good Dean!
Great. I'm sold. Now let's see if they make them in my size. Thanks TMF 👍
Jacket is warm, waterproof and its cheap for a laminated without DWR treatment. It has as a waterproof membrane laminated to the outer liner called dry2dry with a 10000mm hydrostatic head which is less than 1/3 of the 28000mm not 3xs more expensive stay dry for 11 hours shifts under heavy stormy rains (not 2 or 3h like this one) goretex pro laminated 3l membranes. This jacket because it doesn't have a DWR (Durable Water Repellent) treatment on the outer liner soaks up loads of water and stays wet for 2 to 3 days depending on your house's temperature. Sent back and will never buy a non laminated goretex pro jacket without a DWR treatment on the outer again as without this it gets soaked and takes 2 to 3 days to dry without using the heater as required which is not good for professional every day use but for an occasional sunday greenlaning outing should be fine. You get what you pay for.