Power Vent Water Heater Replacement
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- Опубликовано: 29 дек 2020
- Power Vent Water Heater Replacement
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Glad to hear I'm not the only hvac guy doing mad water heaters lately
Just had my BW 50G power vent replaced with a Rheem not my first choice but it was available. You are one of the best plumbers I have watched on YT for sure
Great to watch a true professional working his trade. I worked in automotive coatings for a very long time & we had a plumber that covered the 5 sites we had, I worked on the technical side and also drew up plans for modifications and any new plants. I always included him in any design meetings & I learned a lot from him, I know if he was watching you he'd say this guy knows his stuff.
Unfortunately, he died of cancer many years ago before u tube & the computer age.
Thanks for the video.
Your pipe fitting skills are phenomenal. Every job looks attractive and professionally done. Cudos to you.
Yes I do believe the large group of people do you think a plumber it's just a plumber then there are some who strive for the best and our Artisans of their trade like I stride to be lol :-) :-)
Yay water heaters aren't they just loads of fun lol :-) :-) have a happy New Year man
Thank dear sir. It's always a learning experience with your videos.
Really enjoy your tech trouble shooting videos.
Nice working area, for a change. Thx.
I agree with you on both soldier and the unions
I think its a better job myself with the unions
Nice Job Sir
Had me searching I thought I missed something glad to see the vids back.
Cool man keep them coming!!
those power tools are awesome!!!! the cutter? Never seen one till today.
thanks for the vid.
He has all the toys. I want to do more of these jobs. Time for another rental
Y0ou must be a sick man--you want more rental problems to solve !
@@brendandrury2177 lol
Looks like ‘M’ copper tubing used with red stripe. Some codes don’t permit use on domestic water systems.
Good eye, Sir. Didn’t read your comment before I posted. At least someone else caught this.
I will be installing a Power Vent Water Heater soon. Your video gave me the confidence to make it happen. I am still reading through the instruction manual. If I may ask a question. Is there a reason I should install 3 inch verses a 2 inch PVC vent pipe? Why the choice? I am probably over thinking it. Thank you for the awesome video.
Good luck!
Do you recommend on running a drain line from the vent pipe?
I do them everyday all day that's my job. You should look into getting the pvc cutter that Milwaukee has makes some nice cuts when it comes to venting
I have a question. I am about to replace and install new for a home owner. What should I charge for this installation. I sweat all my copper. He wants to know what I will charge him? I’m not a licensed contractor but I’ve been in the business for 18 years and I do my research and I’m thorough. Any idea of cost. I’m trying to help the guy out, a friend through a friend deal.
Already been dealing with it since last Friday which is almost a week. Honeywell gas valve gave off code# 3. TCO or pressure switch failed open. I replaced both pressure switches on the power vent and still nothing. They told me it was probably the hi limit snap disc under the pressure switch. I am replacing that and the gas valve on Friday. That will make it 7 days of research and calling the manufacturer and 6 different plumbing houses with no luck finding parts. Haven’t charge a penny yet because I haven’t fixed the problem. I’m just not good at estimating cost for my time if anybody could help me I would greatly appreciate it I don’t wanna overcharge but I definitely don’t want to under charge.
Thanks
@@AnthonyAlfaro22 can you send me a pic of the gas valve and front of the burner assembly. There may be a tco switch on the burner assembly that is old. If you put a new one in that may be the issue. Now I've come across that same issue where I replace the switch and the gas valve stem is defective so gas valve has to be replaced
Im just curious. Why did you cut all the plumbing instead of disconnecting all the union or hose clamps?
May I ask what the hole with the pipes going in it is for jeez so much pipes and wires not a job for me I love to fix things but that’s just not for me
50 gallon bradford w/power vent,where to buy and how much
I solder the unions without the plastic or top nut close to the solder joint. I agree though, if you've been doing it without problems for years, then you clearly know what works. Since I'm not as advanced, it would be scorched earth around those unions if I did it your way! Haha!
MI Heating guy! Nice video! I have a sediment trap question. My Power vent just failed on me, so I acquired an unit that was nearly the same 100K btu. Also the same Brand as you have here (State, AO Smit etc...) The slight difference for me on the new unit, is the gas enters on the top of the tank and is threaded 1/2 npt into the top of the gas gas control valve instead of entering the side. How do you do the post valve Sediment trap? Obviously I can come out and elbow to vertical but must the pre shut off valve sediment trap be a certain distance from where it enters the heater? Reason being my gas enters opposite side of the tank and I have to get over the blower unit and hot and cold water supply lines.
I guess I am asking, for space sake if I can run my black pipe for several feet out of the unit before putting my valve and sediment trap?
Just come off the new valve with a short nipple and a tee. Put your trap right at the bottom of the tee. Then connect your gas to the top of the tee
Thank you for the video. Will a power vent water heater help getting hot water faster to the shower?
No
There is a recirculating valve on the market that brings hot water to to the fixture and carries cold back to the tank. Don't remember the brand but I r&r'd one on a bathroom sink during a remodel.
I can’t exactly place why ,but I like this guy-miss the helper interaction on this one though
I was hoping this video was gives some advice about getting a power vent water heater or not?
Can you hooked up a power vent to an existing regular vent system
Are these tank style power vent water heaters worth it? Are they loud when running? Would they be good for a rental that I want to change the tank water heater from a shared chimney to it’s own vent and I only have one chimney for the oil furnace.
I don’t know how you moved the heater by your self it’s over 170 pounds and you’re not a big dude .. I’m trying to take one down to the basement with my son and we are struggling
No need to explain yourself just keep doing what works for you the haters are going to hate anyway
100%
Is it okay in your professional opinion to crimp fittings to dirty pipes
No
What a jumble of cords, water treatment tanks, sump pump, electric cords, hoses, etc. How could you figure all of that out
So plugged drain at bottom is that just 3/4 npt nipple than 3/4 ball to flush bigcatmatt purple power by the way solder where ever the f}%%^^u want too love videos keep them coming longer the better
So the fact that my water from 1996 still works just fine is unusual from what I've been seeing on these videos.... Or I just got a good one. Lol.
Be careful with that comments
I had a battery in my van it was 14 years old well I had to brag one day at coffee time with the guys how great interstate batteries are the original battery in my van 14 years and still going like a champ
Well wouldn't you know the next dam morning click click
Mutha son of a
Had to get a jump and go buy a new F ing battery LOL
what could I do but laugh and of course that days coffee time was all about me and my interstate
LOL
when you said that I just had a flash back
And figured.
SHHHH lol 😆
@@jackblack9830 I plan on replacing it this spring/summer. Its electric and the treads for the heating elements are about wore out because I remove the bottom one and suck out all the junk from the hard water I have once a year and replace the elements at that time too.
@@RandomDude989 you sure can't complain about that one definetly got your moneys worth
What brand is it.
I just hope your luck don't happen like mine did lol
To be fair though I had a power inverter in the van and I think I left something plugged in and it was winter
Good luck 👍 🙏🙏 come on 2021 and spring weather
Does MI allow HVAC contractors to install water heaters? Or are you doing the work under the company’s plumbing license?
A home owner can install water heater if she or he wanted too
@@BeautifulAngelBlossom my state (Massachusetts) allows homeowners to do any work on their home as long as it meets code. But if a contractor comes in to do the work it has to be permitted and inspected, so I was just curious if it was different. Like I install water heaters under the company’s plumbing license, but am not a licensed plumber.
@@alexg3855 My State of Illinois or my county You can do anything in your home with permit .you can do stuff outside without a permit too but you cannot put an addition to your house without a permit you can put a deck in without a permit from what I was told and after you do work inside of your house they don't send an inspector in my house is over 100 years old so there's not a lot of things up to cold in this house because you couldn't really have things up to code in this sort of a house . like we have PVC water line and I think that's okay and we did our DIY hot water heater installation we got a Rheem from the Home Depot I even DIY my air conditioner unit too it was to clean it replace the capacitor and a burnt wire a lot of people just don't want to touch that unit because it's from 1994 and it's a rudd and it's R22
@@BeautifulAngelBlossom You ever hear of punctuation? I needed some periods in your post to try to comprehend it. Just saying. I gave up on the third line.
My power vent runs intermittently...runs for 10 seconds then shuts off...repeats multiple times. Water doesn't heat. Is there a sensor in the vent motor? Capacitor?
Could be a pressure switch or a faulty gas control. Maybe something in you venting. Does the gas control flash any codes
@@MiHeatingGuy Code flashing 3x...TCO or pressure switch failed open
Half inch pipe = 1/2 " solder. Three quarter inch pipe needs 3/4" solder too reach the bottom of the fittings and so on. Even more solder at 2"
A water heater a day keeps the doctor away...
The question is; are you a better plumber or HVAC tech? How about outstanding at both!
What's a plumber ? In southern Calif. I call the plumber, pay high plumber rates, and a person comes to do the job--not a plumber--and almost always I get a half-assed job. No plumber license is required to do plumbing--a plumber (licensed) owns the business and sends out guys who have incentives to make extra money over their hourly pay. A plumbing license here is a path to a big income.
Same with HVAC apprentices, they call them. But no bonus for them for installation and service as far as I know. No license. The man with the license is in the office--or making bank deposits.
What is the lifetime of these powervent water heaters??
Funny you should ask. I just discovered 2 days ago that the life span can be as short as 5 1/2 years
i put in the same one in 2007,,,,well almost the same they now have different features and different gas valve....i have hard water(no softenner)....IT HAS NEVER SKIPPED A BEAT...
if the junctions were not meant to be soldered they would have a warning lol. don't listen to the Armchair experts.
I would like to see one of those quick soldier joints and soft washes when you are done, fast isn't always better. That's not the right amount of solder to make it to the bottom of the fittings.
Bin their and done that , those 12 volt , battery back up and 12 DC volt sump pumps are totally useless , they are just toys , we final end up with a whole house generator that transfer power automatically , in the in term we had combination inverter/ charger that ran off a true deep cycle golf cart size batteries , the inverter supplies 120 Volt AC power direct to the standard wall out let sump pump
I Hate to sound like a hater, but the soldering skills were not correct. You should always take apart the plastic parts to the union and solder it away from the heater. The flame needs to be in the area you want the solder to travel , not away from it. As you cool it place back the fittings and reassemble the pipe and never re-flux a finished solder joint. Just lightly wipe with dry cloth then cool with water or wet rag.
BTW, it wouldn't hurt to bleed the air out the gas line before you start up the heater so the ignition won't lock out...
Just a friendly tip.
that water heater didn't look that old, by far!. maybe it's just my eyes and recollection lol
10 years old
@@MiHeatingGuy older than it looked!
RUclips police is what they’re called
Yup
Monday morning quarterbacks
I was one once to though
My only real fear was
Whats said on video and off video sometimes.
CYA these days
Love the vids
Everyone who has complimented the great work probably didn’t notice that you used Type M on domestic water.
I can add to the list of mistakes if you want. Just ask. Probably will get ignored like my other comment on a previous video I stumbled upon.
I've had to use it a few times myself shit happens
And ya know its been years and not a problem
Don't hate
@@jackblack9830 probably has been a few years since you’ve gotten a call back to those places where you installed M on domestic. It’s not hating; it’s doing the right thing. Suppose I put S rated tires on your SRT10.... you’d say something wouldn’t you? It just doesn’t belong.
@@zeroheat5787
Well I do not advertise I am solely repeat customers
And have been for many years.
I agree with you
But
Some times you gotta do what you gotta do.
You can either wait until supply house has it or i can use what I have and it will work perfectly fine
Its just a thinner wall pipe its still supplying hot water to their faucets
Is it ideal no but will it work absolutely
Will it last yes
@@jackblack9830 there were many times that I wished I didn’t know the difference between right and wrong because I’d have completed the service call easily; but I chose to do the right thing: to code. It’s a water heater replacement; he was at the vendor because he picked up a new heater. He could have purchased Type L, or went looking. He’s not in the boonies. He didn’t need dielectric unions but chose to install them. Why do the “right “ thing but completely fail on another. He didn’t ream the pipe either. Fluxed a soldered joint, etc. I didn’t bother finishing the video after I saw the Type M pipe. I went straight to comments and called BS. It baffles me how he works for someone and posts this garbage. I wonder if his employer sees this. There’s professionals who do not accept work like this. I’m one of them.
I understand your point; you want to get the job done. You work for yourself and have no one to answer to. He represents someone; not for himself. Just take what I’m saying into consideration.
@@zeroheat5787
Its always best to do it right
Agreed 👍
But
I own a house many of them but one that when I installed all the new plumbing supply lines
I was a young guy 30 years ago
Went and grabbed all the supplies did not notice M
Did the whole house moved on to the other work in the house and one day happened to notice 😳
WTF
I said to myself well its all in now so I know I'll be making changes down the road but for now its nit like u can return the shit WTF and like I said young guy so money wasnt easy back then
SO I just finished the house up
Got it rented its been rented all these years and I have yet to have a problem with any of the plumbing
I should not have said that ....
But after 30 35 years now its not bad
Would I recomend it absolutely not but when you look in your truck and see you have 3/4 pipe on the shelf
You have their water off and realize its not L
Its M
It will work
To be fair
Back in the day I was used to my father buying the supplies I did the labor
So when he passed and I took over I was just grabbing 3/4 pipe
Git r dun madness
Thats how that mistake happened but its been good so far.
And now if it gets changed it will have to be pex due to the area and high volume scrap cruds around there
I hate that fact I am a copper and cast guy I hate the plastic world
But
Scrapers force the issue..
Not a lot of guys left that can do cast
Sad 😥 but the world we live in I guess.
I agree with you.
Dont get me wrong
I did notice that and not reaming and all
But all in all he does have good content
I like his videos I like him and his work
No one is perfect always
And sometimes its just a
Needabee
Nvm I see you have it lol where are your safety goggles that stuff shatters you know
well aged and cold weather it does tend to shatter into bits explosively! only the old school "new construction" guys know that, as well as we can tell "rim solder joints"
it all works great, until it doesn't :))
Dad are you teaching us something or talking to yourself and criticizing let us know
thats bull shit that you skipped over taking that maintenance valve off and the mess that ensued.
I will be installing a Power Vent Water Heater soon. Your video gave me the confidence to make it happen. I am still reading through the instruction manual. If I may ask a question. Is there a reason I should install 3 inch verses a 2 inch PVC vent pipe? Why the choice? I am probably over thinking it. Thank you for the awesome video.
Most applications are 2-in depending on the length of the vent run. Thanks for watching