Goodbye EX30 👋 My final Good, bad & ugly after 5.000 km with three EX30's
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- Опубликовано: 11 июл 2024
- My final thoughts on Volvo's EX30
Good, bad & ugly. Including a new Kia.
Hope you will enjoy this video
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Chapters
00:00 Introduction
02:50 The Good
06:22 The Bad
16:32 The Ugly
20:45 Goodbye
📌Recorded 16th of June
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1.4 update greatly improved the driver attention tracker. Now, it barely pops up. Sensitivity is turned way down. Also, for the lights. I have high beam on auto as well. The range for the adaptive cruise control distance automatically adjusts based on the speed. The range setting is personal preference and country regulations. I use medium as short is a €100 fine if caught on camera since the distance is too short.
I also have high beam on auto, but it won't let you activate high beam before it's really dark. In the "transition hour" you have you change the settings on the screen to force it on.
I agree with most of your points, but for me the positives outweighs. And at least the high beam is easily fixed, push the stalk one time and it's auto mode, push it once more and it's manual high beam! (Found it out just by accident since the manual is so poor...)
@fredrikgranfors Yeah. Totally understand that the good overweigh the bad.. There's much good here. What? You get manual high beam also when the settings are set on the "auto" mode? So you could active high beam even if the car doesn't agree? Have to try that.
@@volvo_kristian Yep... you have control with that stalk.
Doubtful.. shouldn't work in the auto mode, when you are in the transition hours between when it's bright and dark outside.
Thank you Kristian. As a new owner of the EX30 I am generally very pleased with my car. The two most important factors for me in choosing a car are driving dynamics and styling and I think the EX30 wins on both accounts, if it looks right then it will probably be right.
Yes there are certain issues with the software, voice activation does help and Google is pretty good, and as more updates come things will hopefully improve.
The other important factor for me is reliability and durability which hopefully the Volvo name holds good, time will tell.
Great to hear. Yeah can totally agree on driving dynamics and styling 👌 Hopefully Volvo will manage to resolve some of the issues eventually. Then this could really be great.
Kia ev3 has rubbish performance though. 7.5 secs 0-60 and that’s for the fastest version
For most people, that is sufficient. Chasing the fast times has become an expensive goal ... the biggest selling EX30 is the SMER
@@johnmansfield3317 Oh, that wasn't impressive 🤣 but as someone also commented. Not everyone cares about 0-60 times. I would gladly sacrifice some performance here if I got a better screen interaction.
@@volvo_kristian think it depends what you’re coming from which for me a golf r. Would like something at least as quick. If you go for the ultra trim, the dual motor is only £2.5k more (in the Uk at least).
Good reviews you do, so thanks
Ps agree with your conclusion, I would never buy a ex30, hate that everything is through the screen and the blatant cost cutting is annoying
Many thanks Kristian for your carefully prepared series: most impressive.
Glad you have enjoyed them 👍
Agree with what you say. I was all for the EX30 until I closely looked at the controls I would want easy access to when driving and the software issues folks have had. Then there is the ridiculous key access issues. If they had put the EX40 steering wheel and stalks in it - I might have found it acceptable. So, my XC40 Twin on lease is being replaced late July with the new Renault Scenic.
@mdshovel Yeah, wish it had XC40 steering wheel and stalks. Significantly better
I wouldn't buy KIA, I have always seen Kia as a budget brand.
@Jeff.55649 Understand your point, but with that said. Kia have really came along way up making their cars better. Haven't seen the EV3 live yet, but I really think it's going to be a tough competitor to this EX30
@volvo_kristian maybe im biased because i work at Volvo Cars, haha.
@@Jeff.55649 Maybe 😂
Our Kia EV9 is ANYTHING but budget. Kia makes budget cars and Kia makes near-luxury cars.
Kia is upping their game in every department
Have you the last update 1.4 on the EX30? Volvo has listen and made one screen with the driver assistens to turn off.
No, had to deliver it back just a couple of days before the update got available.
Agree with the tilt down mirrors to park. It will be automatic. The access to driving alert in the version 1.4 is less agressive, and you can assign a shortcut in the main menu. Two clicks.
Is funny, but you looks like a guy talking with his girlfriend why are you breaking up. Walking...talking...indecisive...erratic...😊😊😊. Thank for your videos. Nice to meet you.
@Vlatard Hopefully Volvo can fix most of these issues with tuning the software, and adding shortcuts. . Yeah maybe this was a breakup 🤣🤣
Great content. How tall are you so we can gauge height of car? Many thanks and keep up the good work👏👏👏
Kristian is there a variant of this model ex30 without a sunroof or one with a sunshade like the smart#1 premium ?
I hope to see your opinion on the MY 2025 EX30 when it is available.
Woah!! All of my questions were answered. I really appreciate your honesty. Despite being a Volvo enthusiast as well, I'm still worried about some of the small functionalities in this new era of minimalism by Volvo. Does the voice assistant work with wipers or lights adjustment?
Have a look at the polestar 2
Glad you enjoyed my video. No the voice assistant can't control that kind of car functions. Primarily navigation and climate for now.
@volvo_kristian thank you for the information
Try the EX30 by yourself and I assume you will get a better impression of it. It has more good things than poor things. I am so happy with my EX30.
I completely agree, you really got to watch those seagulls, they will get you in the end
You're getting a deal from the manufacturer dealer, then go for it. Well I do like the Hyundai and Kia offerings I do not trust them. This is based off their ice cars. Even the Kona electric has an issue with design at the gear not to mention the fact that the battery pack protrudes quite a bit out from underneath the car so it's always a hit risk which can lead to thermal runaway
I have only two questions...
1. Why the hell did you bought this car if you do not like so many things about it?
2. Didn't you test drive the car before giving >40k for it?!
Most of the things you said, such as mirror setting... personally does not bother me, or I did not notice them. I set mirrors only once, and do not have a need to move mirrors down, I can see all I need. Along that, there is a reverse camera, and is more than enough if you know to drive the car. Other options for which I need to reach the central screen... well, what do you really need when driving? A steering wheel, stalks for blinker, lights and washer, break and gas pedal... that's it. Once setup, no need to fiddle around the screen while driving.
I have Ex30 Twin, with 1.3.1 update, no any SW issues at all. Is it a perfect car ? No, but it is between excellent and perfect. At least, this is my opinion.
I've seen people complain about the range and reporting 24kw/h or more. WTF? I can't get above 18kw/h in a mixed driving including 180km/h on a highway for some 15-20 minutes time. Outside temperature was 32-36 Celsius. Along WLTP, there is a "Dynamic range" calculation which shows different numbers based on the current driving style. So, when I top up the car to 100% it shows 377km range in "dynamic mode", but actually I get up to a real 410-440km depending on road conditions, and above explained driving style. Car tends to be excellent with consumption depending on road condition.
To explain this a little bit....
I was driving part of the 76km long road with constant slope of about 2-3%, the car wasted electricity of only 12km of range (average speed 86km/h). Started with 300km range, reached 76km away destination and had 288km remaining range. So, when it is consuming battery energy (with the pedal to the metal), it "drinks energy" such as platoon of alcoholics, but when it saves the energy, it's a lot, much more than I would expect.
Some people are driving TWIN version constantly with All-Wheels-Drive on, which is completely unnecessary. The car will activate front engine when needed (overtaking or dynamic twisty road driving).
People complains a lot about consumption for a car with 430 horsepower?! C'mon. What do they expect ?! How much petrol engine with 430 horsepower would consume ? 24-28 liter/ 100 km ?!?! Regarding that, EX300 is absolutely above exceptional.
I saw some people concern about rear-wheel driving and loosing traction. I can confirm it is almost impossible to get the rear end to lose control. One have to be driving really, really insane to achieve that. RWD EV cannot be even close comparable to the RWD ICE vehicles. Two completely different worlds. For anyone having concerns about that...just don't.
Charging on a long trip.... If there are no superchargers nearby, a 50kw charger is more than enough if you "pit stop" for a short coffee and toilet break. It will charge before you manage to get your coffee and stretch your legs.
Only few issues I noticed...
1. car is very quiet, so in dusk or night driving, deer are not afraid and quite often jumps in front of the car. So, drive cautiously.
2. Automatic lights are quirky. When driving into the curve with highly reflective road signs, the car can detect this as an incoming car and can switch off high beam in the most unpleasant moment.
3. When not driving on completely smooth asphalt, the car feels every bump. If I drive a "little" bit more dynamic, and for example run over bumpy road or road patches, the car can jump more than expected... quite unpleasant. This is most likely due to the 2 tones of the car and not quite perfect shock absorber settings. Actually, this is not bad, as it forces you to not get crazy on the road and drive slowly. I will go that far and say I think this is done intentionally by Volvo for security reasons.
4. For dynamic twisty road driving, characteristic are medium. For me, it was even hard to follow an old Ford Focus 1.4 on a twisty road. The car is just too jerky. For other use cases, the car is absolutely excellent.
5. The car has a brutal acceleration and big disadvantage are speed cameras :)))) Ultra fast acceleration is usable mostly when you need to overtake or showing off to some Audi TFSI 3.0 :)) .... Joke aside, the car is really brutal, and not for everyone. Such power should be banned for everyone younger than 40, as it definitely requires some level of maturity and responsibility while driving something with a such exceptional power and acceleration.
The bottom line, the more I drive it, the more I like it. For anyone looking into the car, take the test drive for at least 200km if possible to get to know the car and then decide.
@user-me9ft1gs4g I'm not going to read your whole comment, since the first two questions probably sets the standard. Firstly, and lastly. This is a presscar, that I'm testing. Same as the other two. Testing 🤣
@@volvo_kristian OK, obviously I missed it is a test car. Still, the car is much better than your videos leaves impression. Many people decide based on RUclips reviews and then decide not to even go to the test drive based on that. What can be found online and in a real test drive is quite a different experience.
@user-me9ft1gs4g Weird that you feel offended that my video's may or may not give the EX30 a bad reputation.
I have driven the car over 5.000 km.. Noticed many of the flaws within the first minutes. And I always share my honest opinions.. I've tested it much more than many others as well. I don't think it's much better than my video's show. But it doesn't matter what I think. As I also said in this video. You have to decide what you think about it. If the good overweight the bad.
Think you need to watch this video again. With a different mindset. I highly recommend to testdrive this car. I'm giving it alot of praise. Since it's a awesome car on many areas.
Sadly it's not just good things to say about it. Honestly I'm really glad that you enjoy your EX30. That's what should matter. For you. We're all different. But I've talked to very very many people that have tested (and bought) the EX30. You'd be surprised how many that agree with one, two, three or all of my complaints.
But if your happy with your EX30, then why does it matter if my RUclips review makes someone cancel a EX30 testdrive? I just don't understand your point..
Either way. Hope you have enjoyed some of my EX30 video's, and maybe future content. Maybe we disagree on how good the 30 are.. Either way I wish you happy miles with the 30.
Have a great day..
@@volvo_kristian I've simply stumbled on your video, and got wrong impression you bought the car then complaining it's not good, and now you're creating videos about bad things about the car. (my bad :)) ). You would be surprised how many people order (or decide not to order) a car without a test drive just by watching RUclips Video reviews.
I'm not offended at all, and hope you're not also. Off course everyone is different with different opinions. There is no perfect car, "flaws" is maybe too strong word, I would call them quirks, They can be fixed with SW update, and probably will over the time.
When I was thinking about to go to an EV or Hybrid or stay with ICE, I was watching (too many) reviews about EV's in general, pluses and minuses.....(it is still something new for many of us). I've tried a few models, did not like them, or they were just not my style or so.. Did not get "that feeling" about the car, or being insanely pricey etc.
I've got an opportunity to test drive EX30 last year while it was not yet available in my country and probably would not buy it based on some online reviews I saw in that time. Because I needed to replace the car, in the meanwhile I would buy something else, would not wait for "unknown" availability here.
Opportunity to test-drive Ex30, completely changed my perception about EX30. For EX30, I mostly saw (not referring to you or your video) reviews, comments and complaints (redit/ex30) about the range and missing buttons, how it is very inconvenient... this is always somehow in the focus. I agree, this might bother some people. I got use to it very quickly, even for central speedometer (I thought it will be a problem) Turns out, not at all.
So I simply gave my experience about the car for things I've not seen in the media (which would help me more to decide than missing buttons and few quirks). I believe that for EV, range, consumption and regardless of car digital experience (do not how to call it) "physical" driving experience because of weight of battery, and security is more important simply as this is the essence of driving a car.
All the best!
Most of your points are where volvo tried to reinvent the wheel when it wasn't broken. Hopefully most can be fixed in software updates. For me a 20 min drive was all I needed to know the biggest problem for me was the bouncy ride which makes slow speed driving difficult due to the aggressive throttle mapping. If you go over a bump the motion makes you push and release on the throttle voluntarily causing a jerky ride. The opd wont stop the car fully quick enough. You didn't mention the key card either!
@StuMunro I didn't use the key card. Used the regular key fob.. To many disadvantages with the key card. Can't relate you the bouncy ride comment, but we're all different.
I had exactly the same experience with the throttle, but after a few hundred kilometers, this feeling disappeared. I don't know if I get used to it or the car is "learning" about the driver and adjust accordingly. Maybe I should try with another driver profile and see what will happen. Also, I have a feeling that the throttle behaves differently when the speed limit warning is disabled than when it is enabled.
@@user-me9ft1gs4g you are getting used to it, as I am, but it's still not great behaviour. I've noticed stopping from speed is more predictable.
It seems the new Ariya is at a similar price range. How is that possible?
Interesting. Not sure how they manage that
I've had the car for nearly a month and driven 1500 miles. The v1.4 software has ironed out the driver attention issue - first thing I do is click off the speed limit and driver attention on the main settings menu. easy and quick now- has let me map the one pedal to the customise button on the wheel.
only real annoyance now is the wheel buttons lacking accuracy. nothing else annoys me
Volvo and Kia two completely different things. Many people like the boldness of taking minimalistic way too far. Interior is only one aspect of the decision procedure
@dimitrismina4201 Yeah definitely. Two different things. Where one is better than the other 🤣 especially in this segment
@volvo_kristian well the strong sales of the EX30 globally suggest otherwise!
How was the sales number for EX30 VS MODEL Y when we count up after Juli? 😂
Guess you mean June. Haven't checked yet, but I expect that Tesla managed to push out more of that plastic containerg. Let's check after July 🤣
Being in the USA, I could see the writing on the wall and asked for my $500 refund 2 weeks before Volvo killed the EX30 here. As you may recall, my Plan B was to buy the heavily incentivized Polestar 2 Plus, Pilot, AWD, 19" wheels. We received the P2 on July 3, and this, my 8th EV, is perhaps the finest car I've ever owned, bar none! We love it. In my opinion, the EX30 is a beautiful-looking car but is simply not yet ready for primetime. I have a 27-month lease on the P2 and might consider a hopefully fully-baked EX30 at that point. But as you've pointed out, in that time, this segment gets crowded... You forgot to consider the proposed Tesla 2 which could really shake the markets up. Thanks for what you do!
@OwenFromOhio glad you enjoyed it. Yeah the Polestar 2 are really awesome. Regards to Tesla it's kinda challenging. Don't know the timeframe on the TM2, and Tesla always wants to do some controversial things. Like removing stalks, or half a steering wheel.. So let's see what they remove on the TM2 🤣🤣
@@volvo_kristian This is my 8th EV none where Teslas... elon doesn't need/won't get any of my money 💰😔💰 But I seem to be in the minority.
@@OwenFromOhioI'm with you 😂
I tested the EX30 in January (single and dual). It was ok but felt that it was missing the “Volvo philosophy”.
Went to the Megane E-Tech.
Hard no on Kia.
Its your opinion and we are free to have one. I am a owner and yes its not perfect but its a good car and what you are talking, its personal, not evidence of a bad car.
@nickmarxsantos Well 🤣 not sure how to interpret your message here.. but the Same goes both ways. What you are talking about it's personal. Not evidence of a good car.. Either way.. I'm just sharing my experiences after my test period. Owner or not, got much experience. And Volvo should do better.. Hopefully several of my complaints can be fixed with software adjustments.. So let's for now agree to disagree. Have a good day.
Really agree with all that you have said about the ex30, the Kia ev3 and your final recommendation of buying a second hand xc40 instead of the ex30. Great line of thinking and judgement.
Appreciate your feedback 👍
Good arguments! Surely for Volvo to look for “simple” improvements! Is the ex40 better?
Yeah the 40 range are much better 👌
@@volvo_kristian ofcourse bigger battery, bigger range 🤣
@@JassoLama Not talking about range. It's a much better car.
@@volvo_kristian And Polestar is even better and higher quality.
I think a good conversation that I've not heard anyone have about the Volvo or any of the other than Tesla traffic picture focuses on the CPU and overhead in the infotainment tablet / PC that's in all EV cars. Tesla does a great job of installing one that has a good amount of overhead given how everything is going through it and I think Volvo on the other hand might have cheap down and put a Google tablet Chromebook special in
EX30 is doomed in the US now, with tariff wars causing another year of delivery wait here. Cancelled my reservation. Anyway, the car is just a Geely budget mobile, disguised as a Volvo. Its UI stinks badly, compare it to other Volvo models in this area of the design.
@voyageurmike Don't you think Volvo will solve the tariff issue when they start up production in Belgium? Hopefully US will get cars from there instead of China cars. And yeah. It's a huge difference between EX30 and other Volvo's
Last I heard, it'll be a year or two until manufacturing begins in Belgium. Before I cancelled my reservation recently, Volvo delayed my delivery date to between "early 2025 and late 2025". If Kia is selling the EV3 in North America by whenever Volvo starts selling EX30 here, they will trounce Volvo. I think the EX30's window of opportunity for penetrating the US market is dubious.
Many thanks for this video. I agree with all your points. Additional I would mention the annoying key fob the bad and dangerous opd and the capacitive shit on the steering wheel.
It's my fifth Volvo since 2019 and i am very angry about this car. My mistake was to order the car in July 23 just after the presentation.
With all my very positive experience i trusted Volvo would build another reliable car. That was a big mistake.
@andreasarnold876 Glad you enjoyed my video. Firstly it's sad to hear about your experience. But not surprised either. Yeah can relate to both the key fob and also the useless steering wheel buttons.. Understand your trusted them. I did the same a couple of years ago with the XC60. Ordered initially after the launch. Hadn't seen the car live, but signed up. Didn't regret it. But that was a 100% Volvo product. Following the same foot steps as XC90, V90 and S90. Shared platform and powertrain +++ So wasn't worried.. The EX30 however are completely different. And if your coming from previous Volvo's that can be a hard transition.. As you sadly have experienced.. Not sure how long you are tied up with your 30, but I can totally recommend both XC40 and C40 if you still want electric Volvo.. Then there's also two other really awesome Volvo's coming.. during 2025/2026.. So hang in there. Hopefully your back to being a pleased Volvo owner soon..
@@volvo_kristian Thanks for your answer.
I really love our second car, a V60 T6 Recharge MY22.
The EX30 substituted a Polestar 2. We really enjoyed that wonderful EV. Sadly i am tied up for further 45 months with the EX30
I stick with my xc40 petrol, and my next car will be the new LR Defender diesel.
I find volvo has taken a very cheap way to build their cars. Anyway safety a part this is a chinese geely car. No accents of classy and luxury like the actual 60 or 90 series.
On top of that at home i have also the new jeep avenger, and the fit and finishing is more or less at same level of this volvo, in some detail even better, and in some detail even better than my xc40. I’m sad to say that because i did love volvo and i was loyal customer but not anymore.
It is overwhelming how simple and important functionality is been overloaded here with complexity by Volvo ((
I hope to see your opinion on the MY 2025 EX30 when it is available.
I hope to see your opinion on the MY 2025 EX30 when it is available.