Speakers - Yamaha HS7 vs. HS5 vs. Presonus Eris E5
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- Опубликовано: 12 янв 2015
- First, I’m not a sound guy. I know enough about this to know I’m doing a lot of things incorrectly with setup, testing, etc. That being said I learned some things with my own experience that may be helpful to someone looking at these monitors for themselves.
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got the same with the bx5 d2s, great sound, a small lack of bass, but clear. Also have that white noise problem and am looking for the hs7
Thanks so much the comparison, I too hate white noise when nothing is playing and I'd been reading online that the Yamaha speakers also have a hiss, but I'm guessing they're fine after watching this comparison.
Yamaha owe you.. I just bought a pair rather than the Presonus things. Thanks for the heads up
If the dude put a reference link in the description he woulda got a kickback...
Like I said, was gonna buy Presonus, until - buyer beware! - I heard about their shitty customer service!
get it with hs8s and it’s gonna be the stage
They are probably already paying him ha ha 😂
With my Presonus Eris E44's it was a cordless phone that caused some grief d'oh! Pretty much the quietest monitors I've used with a fantastic bottom end out of the 2x4.5" drivers. Not sure how they achieve it but it might be due to the MTM (D'Appolito) arrangement. Anyhow, very happy with mine.
Fantastic review, man. Very honest and to the point. Thanks for that. Deciding between the HS5s and the HS7s right now. Limited desk space...
+Joshua Pinter I like the HS7's, no complaints. :-)
+Black Raven Films I ended up picking up the HS7s. Incredible. Seem like the sweet spot for size and bass. Thanks again for the review.
+Joshua Pinter
Do you use them alone? Or with a subwoofer?
+8DeaD7 I use them by themselves. They sound fantastic.
Great tips there!! Thank you for your informative view!
Are you sure it wasn't noise from power outlet? maybe a power conditioner can fix the problem, there many on amazon you can get them from the $50.00
I just got the Presonus E5's. First thing I did was connect up via RCA phonos. Result was annoying hum noise. It sounded like computer electrical noise or some kind of interference. So i switched to XLR balanced connectors (my audio interface is unbalanced, so I had to route an M-Patch 2 passive volume control box). I now have near silent monitors. There is some white noise if I stick my head up against the tweeters, but it's quieter than the ambient background noise in my house. This is with the monitors and the pc plugged into the same power outlet. I think probably the unbalanced connections on this monitor are susceptible to noise in various circumstances. Conclusion: don't write off the presonus monitors - I find them quite detailed and revealing, especially in the all important mid range.
I actually know about a piece a kinda filter ...its like an RCA stereo cables but with a cylinder in the middle ....that filter all those noises.
What is white noise? Can you explain? I dont hear anything
Really great comparison, thank you!
watched a vid a few minutes ago on the presonus eris monitors and he had the same problem with the white noise, but he resolved it by moving his wifi router ( maybe not the router, but he definitely mentioned some kinda wifi thing ) farther away from the speaker and the white noise went away. However, I think i'm gonna go with the HS7's. Thanks...great to see a comparative review, so very helpful.
+2ndMOUSEofficial
You will not be disappointed. I have the HS5's and they are phenomenal. Remember , you don't have to have the Yamaha subwoofer, you can use any subwoofer that works with your connections(has to be a powered subwoofer though). I have a Polk Audio sub that I think was like $50 and works great.
+jeff darnell Hello, what is the reference of your sub? thanks
what did you pay for the HS7?
I had to return my Eris E5's because of the hiss. I honestly loved them, but they cracked and hiss way more then they should.
You need a sub for any size if you want to be able to mix in that rich and lush sub sonic tone you get in Hollywood films.
Thanks we were going to get KRk's but we came across these white HS7's, not ordered yet but just about too.
the yamaha in white are so beautiful ....... i have in black and some days i regret ^^
would you recommend using a sub w the HS7s? For drum and bass i'm not getting much low end but they're crystal clear..
Yeah, if you need to hear that low end, that'll be the only way. We've never had the need for it. :-)
Because of this video I nearly made a huge mistake. I can't stand any kind of hiss coming from my equipment. So I bought the yamaha HS7s from Thomanns. I just had a nagging feeling that I should at least try the Eris E5s so the next day after placing my order for the HS7s I bought the E5s.
My experience was entirely different from yours. The Eris E5s are dead silent. I hear no hiss at all. The HS7s are dead silent also. To me they are both excellent monitors. I decided to send the HS7s back but only for one reason. The E5s fit much better in my space and I like the fact that they are front ported. They are about 4 inches from the wall and the HS7s were right up against the wall. Not a good thing for rear ported speakers. I'm happy that my E5s are hiss free, front ported and just the right size.
The Yamahas have a much more present midrange, which is the best quality a monitor can have for mixing.
Definitely getting the Yamaha studio Monitor 7 now thanks for the vid
Completely agree with your assessment on the Yamahas
are you a video editor ? i am and looking for something that i can use for editing as well as everything else
+Roraigh “Roars” Price I'm a producer for the most part, though I do edit from time to time on my projects. Hit me up offline at info@blackravenfilms.com.
My E5s are crystal clear with no types of hissing or any other types of other noises. I am using XLR cables.
It's probably his audio interface.
I use TRS cables with a Focusrite 2i2. and I can't even hear hiss at extremely high volumes (with nothing playing)
Im not sure if youre doing this; but make sure your speakers are plugged into an entirely different power source (wall mount outlet or stip) than your computers and mixers. I always make sure to have all three plugged into different power sources to eliminate frequencies being shot into your equipment due to lack of efficient conditioned power.
Good suggestion, I tried multiple outlets and configurations, but I always ended up with the same hum. The HS7's have none of that which is why I ultimately went with them.
Re the noise - You might have electrical noise on your home supply that's getting through (switch-mode power supplies can cause this, like most electronic items use nowadays), and maybe the more expensive Yamaha's have better noise suppression circuitry. Might be interesting to try the E5s in another building to see if there is any difference.
That doesn't sound like an inherent problem with the monitor design. I had a pair that had no issue of that sort. It could be you just got a bad set, or your power source was somehow lacking or ungrounded, or the cables were unbalanced. There are a number of factors.
very nice and helpful review, thanks a lot!
About the Erises: Not sure if you mean white noise, a continuous hiss, or interference, which is random bursts of noise, or hiss or scratchy noise that changes in volume when, say, you move cables, or someone walks around the room. Other commenters have talked about interference and possible sources of it, so I'll discuss white noise.
If it's white noise (unchanging hiss) it's probably because Presonus cheaped out, saving maybe 20 cents a pair by using cheap, noisy op-amps such as 4558s rather than NE5532s (the industry standard, every piece of recorded music you listen to has probably been through 50 of them).
Or it's a design problem with the pre-amplifier, which is unlikely, since they have been doing preamps for a while. But perhaps the level control and/or high control are direct coupled and there is a DC current through them. The problem would be made worse by the cheap op-amps. Again, this would be cheaping out, because DC blocking capacitors for the controls would add maybe another ten cents to the cost of the amp.
Another possible source of hiss is if they are using a cheap IC for the power amplifier. There is a major faking problem in China in this part of the electronics industry, with cheap ICs re-badged as good ones.
A source of interference that would sound like white noise is the switch-mode power supply that must be in the same speaker as the amplifier. Again, perhaps they saved a few cents by not enclosing the SMPS in a grounded aluminum case.
Other sources of "hash" (white-noise-like interference) include uninterruptible power supplies, computer power supplies, or general poor condition of the mains distribution network in your area or in your building - solution: a mains power conditioner; and nearby cell-phone towers or FM transmitters. The solution to that last problem is to move away.
The monitors will be placed like 40-50cm from my head, so, just like any hum from the screen speakers, when in multimedia work, instead of audio/using an audio interface, even if it's just a 0.001db, it will be enough to drive me totally crazy.
Hey
Hs7 do they need to be turned off or its ok to leave them constantly on, i will be connecting them to my tv for listening to music thanks
I would turn them off when not in use.
the white noise you refer to, it's maybe due to interference.do you have a wireless router or another wireless source near by?
+George Smith no its the presonus crappy monitors
You get white noise too from your wifi router if you have it too close to the PreSonus Eris E5!
A late comment here but I just bought a pair of Presonus Eris E5 and they don't have the mentioned problem, they maybe fixed it throughout this years.
i have been using presonus eris5 daily for almost a year now for mixing, producing hiphop music. gotta say the ear fatigue is so real lol.
for the eris5 I can describe that at some point i does sound flat enough to hear all details, but it doesn't sound tight and clear. its more like they made all freqs equally louder and flat so you
can hear details. its so loud to pinpoint any details in the mix that's why it cause ear fatigue.
not long ago i got a chance to listen, comparing hs5 and eris5 at audio shop.
hs5 even tho it lack the low end. they are flat alright but also sound tighter and clearer to hear details. no tricks to my ears. im saving up to change to hs5 then hs8s subwoofer later
Been using the E5 for over a year and i am in love with the sound. I am not sure of updating to krk though or if i should just save up until i can get the HS5
the hs5 isn't that much more than the E5, why didn't you just save up in the first place? 270 vs 400?
Man,
I just met you, but I already owe you a beer or a soda, if you prefer:
I am trying to find some nice speakers to replace my old m audio sp8b, and I was already interested by the iris e5, thanks to its great specs. Then, I also noticed the yamaha hs series. But at only 55hz for bass frequencies, I thought the hs5 might have been too weak for my needs. The hs8 bass response is great, but the monitors are way too big...
so I was left with the iris and hs5.
But now, thanks to you, I won't be buying the iris e5, that noise sound would have made me crazy and want to commit suicide. And the hs5, like you say, proves I was right about the eventual weak bass.
so there we are. I will certainly go for a pair of hs7, perfect, size and response frequency/bass wise.
A huge huge sincere thank you, from the other continent.
Great review..very informative
You get white noise and hum from using unbalanced cables.
Don't use RCA plugs for monitors. Use stereo phone connectors or xlr. They have better interference protection.
+yoyofargo I was using shielded XLR cables. The white noise was there regardless of the cable, it was there even with no cables plugged in,. Just being powered on gave me white noise.
+Black Raven Films Is/ was your router or anything with an antenna nearby??? The different radio frequencies can cause white noise! Hope this helps!
+Black Raven Films Is/ was your router or anything with an antenna nearby??? The different radio frequencies can cause white noise! Hope this helps!
+Black Raven Films Is/ was your router or anything with an antenna nearby??? The different radio frequencies can cause white noise! Hope this helps!
+MonoTopia5 Router was turned on and off, it wasn't an interference issue.
I'm considering purchasing the HS7 or the HS8. I do want to make sure I get enough bass for my hip-hop/alternative music. Do the HS7's deliver good bass response or do they require a subwoofer? Thanks for the review and feedback.
+Nevan123 If you're mixing music, you may want to consider the HS8's or a combo with the subwoofer. Check the specks for the frequency levels each one kicks out.
@@BlackRavenFilmsTV the HS7 is good. But the bass is behind the speaker, thus you must really good place the HS7 in the room to have a good sound. For example, in my studio it's more easy to place the RP5 G3 because bass is in front.
Good review ! I will get the HS7 or 8 then
what are those speakers sitting on? I need a pair of those
Acoustic Isolation Pads.
What size is your pc monitor? 22"? 24'? Just want to know how big are these speakers in comparison to your pc monitor..
+Linas Kaminskas I think it's 23".
I have a pair of Eris 5 as secondary mix speakers. They are so good they may as well be my primary pair for final mix check. No white noise on idle whatsoever and perfectly silent at rest with power on..
The Presonus guys were being polite with you for sure, and I could almost guarantee they intimated that there was something in your setup causing it if there was deemed to be no fault. With all due respect, that doesn't look like the ideal setup. There are mains cables crossing audio cables at 90 degrees (just having balanced cables wont help you there in every case), very close proximity to two monitors and who knows what else.
He works for Yamaha 😂😃
lawl @@21stCenturyDanceClub
Thanks for the video. Where did you get that desk? Very nice.
Ikea! it's cheap, but I like it. :-)
Great information, Thanks!
im getting the same thing (HS5). M-audio m-track 2x2 set @ 48 KHZ 24 bit bought new $$$ 1/2 cables same thing, bought separate usc-c high speed pci-e card no change...
Great little vid cheers
What i needed to hear. Thanks
could you use these as speakers as well or its strictly for studios and mixing?
No, it is illegal to use outside of a professional studio and you could face up to a 5k fine, and face a month in jail.
Lots of people use these as speakers and if the music was mixed poorly? then they will tell you.
I've seen them all over and they do sound good.
How much more are the h7 than the h5 and how did you get them for around the same price?
yes it's about the same price in my country .... around 200 euros for one speaker.
Thanks for steering me away from Eris 5. That white noise would drive my OCD bat shit crazy.
Thank you for sharing.. I have both Yamaha HS5 and HS7.
with wich one you have the best mix result please ?
Please Help Me Out!! ..Anybody!
I am thinking of buying the HS7 next week.
Can I 'cut off' the low frequencies on these monitors so i can mix better .. I heard small rooms cannot handle low frequencies well.
I have tiny tiny room(7ftx7ft). I have no other space than that for now but i might move to a larger space in the coming years therefore, i want to get a 7 inch instead of a 5 inch.
So, does it help if i cut off the low frequencies on monitors?
sory for the 4 years LOL ...... with bass on "zero" the sound is very flat. You can adjust bass on -2 or -4dB ..... but it's not CUT the bass. Thus on -4dB all the bassline is less volume. You can hear a little the bassline to 43Hz. Thus it's less bass, not a cut. (for example on my eris you can cut the bass). But no worry, the HS7 is flat with the bass.
Black Raven Films hey, would you still get the subwoofer if you had the HS8???
Artkidtek I suggest you do your research for them. I bought HS7, and they were lacking low freq. They were deffinately not playin down to 43hz, at best 70hz with a drop starting at 100hz. I tried them with a sub and it was a mess. Personally I wouldn't go for HS8, as I fear I might sell them in a few months.
+kristaps 5645 HELP ! I am trying to get the right pair for a very basic set-up, but don't want to skimp on the speakers. Elsewhere the Eris E5 was valued as the best for its price range (here € 298/pair), which would haven been great - if it wasn't for Black Raven Films review...Next in line were Yamaha HS 7 as the first serious contender (here € 387/pair with stands). I always that that the much more expensive HS 8 (here € 589/pair) would be THE speaker to reference everything below € 1.000/pair..but discarded for price in favour of the HS7. After reading the review and the comments, I started thinking of HS 7 plus the HS 85 (here € 444) as an even better - if pricier - combination ...which you have just shattered as well. So back to the beginning - what is there in the € 300 - € 500 price range that is "right" ? I need neutral monitoring for recording amateur. But I am not deaf. Not yet, anyway...
Go with any 8" monitor that's in your price range. I bought m audio bx 8 d2 and they are cheaper and have better range than Yamaha hs7.
Ricardo Goehr Hidalgo and you will not need a sub with 8 inch monitor, which in the end will turn out to be cheaper than buying a 5" or 7" with a sub
+kristaps 5645 funny you should say that - the M-audio BX8 D2 was my first choice...very reasonable priced over here ( € 285), but I got to read so many bad reviews...mainly about white noise, lack of natural bass, etc.. I understand that size matters, but so does quality. What would you pick on bang for the buck ? HS 8 (€ 589) or BX8 (€ 285) ? I understand about mathematics...but do you get three times as much joy out of the Yamahas ? Or is it "just" double ? It is the price relation that will really do it, I guess..beggars can't be choosers .
Make sure your presonus monitor is away from cellphones and the internet modem, that causes the whire noise
+Black Raven Films I got the HS7, but even with HS7 I got a low frequency buzz from the speakers. I had the level on my HS7 set to +3db boost which if I remember right is 70%. But I figured out that the white noise and the buzz problem is in the signal chain. So what I did was instead of boosting the db on the speakers I turn them to -3db or less, and then turned the sound card output louder. This lowers the speaker noise floor and boosts the audio level going in the speakers.
However after using them for a while even when there was no buzzing I found that HS7's had incorrect representation of lower frequencies, I measured the freq. response and found that they only go down to 100hz and then there is a steep drop. Even tried them in different rooms, to see if room was the issue. Finally I sold them and I'm not sure if I would even go for HS8's for bass, as Yamaha's product representation is false.
kristaps 5645 What did you end up going with? I'm been very happy with our speakers, I love the clarity of them. That said, I know these are still an entry level set that have their issues. For what we use them for and the price, I'm still a fan. :-)
I especially noticed the lack of low end when mixing sub bass or even low kicks, so I would not recommend them for mixing hip hop. Havent bought any new speakers yet, but I have worked on m audio bx8 d2 and got good results because of the 8 inch speaker. So I might go for those, They are quite cheaper, but thats because of the lack of room controls in back. And kevlar speaker material is better in my opinion.
i can confirm to you that the HS7 has zero hiss sound. the E5 has a "vvvvv" sound when turn on, but not the HS7. If you have some sound when no music, it's not in the speaker ;)
Could you please tell me how far they are from the wall?
A foot or so. They're too close for proper sound representation, I get too much bounce back. But the room is small and I'm ok with it for now.
Those monitors have to be raised a bit higher because monitors deliver sound directionally so the centre of the woofer has to be in line with your ears for optimal monitoring. Make sure they are equal distances apart and from your ears or the listening position with each target each ear. Left monitor to the left ear and right to the right ear.
Center of the tweeter supposed to Line up with ears Dude.
Oh thanks dude
Yamaha makes great products. From drums to electronics. I just ordered a pair of these with two stands 599.
Hello. If you still own the monitors, can you pls check if there are issues with your wireless router or monitor that would interfere with the setup. Some users had that problem with their monitors.
bulibasha81 The only issue I've found is occasionally my cell phone can cause some feedback when it's too close to the speakers, with a foot or so. My router is on the floor about 4 feet from them and I haven't noticed anything from that.
I bought Eris one month ago. Have to send them back. Bass was just mess. Maybe it´s a air movement problem. Some music sounded nice but other were weird. For example Lukather guitar sound was really weird in some records. Can´t do job with them. So I ordered HS7, same price range and wish the best. Got these yesterday. Really amazing they are compared to eris. Eris sound like 300 € speaker, Yamaha like 1000€ .In this video if i remember right , says that there is noice in Yamaha. No any noise at all. The cables should be TRS balanced cables or xlr.. Not regular instrument cable. Totally silence with trs. I´ve studied a top music school and played top bands, teaching 25 years and ears are pretty good.This is the first time that I review something, but like to help if someone is wondering what to buy. Don´t waist time with Eris 5. Yamaha have 6,5 woofer so no need for sub usually. I dont need anyway.Maybe Eris 8 are better, don´t know... My searching is over:)
ok nice review. but i have one question ... are eris 5 give enough bass response or are like yamaha hs5 ??
E5's had a much nicer base response than the HS5'S, I would have kept the E5's if it weren't for the white noise issue.
thank you very much for replay ...
Black Raven Films My advice is if you go someone else house e.g. friend family and check those speakers there. What could cause this hum /noise is circuit interference from your neighbours appliances.
I don't have any white noise with mine. Must be a bad luck pair
I used balanced TRS-TRS cable for white noise issue, solved my issue with E5
I watched another review on the E5's where the guy initially had the same issue with white from one of the monitors but discovered it was caused by his wireless router being too close to the monitor. Once he moved the router the noise disappeared.
I myself own a pair and have no issues with white noise. The fan noise from my Mac Pro is more of an issue. Soon to be resolved when I receive my iMac;-)
no no .... i tried 20 speakers in my studio. I confirm, when you turn ON the E5 you can hear a little hiss sound. It's the amp. I have zero hiss with the HS7 for example.
but it's like a breath, it's not disturbing for me.
I PICKED UP THE HS5's WITH A SUB-WOOFER AND I AM IN LOVE. I WAS EYEING THE HS7'S BUT THEY WERE DOUBLE THE COST OF THE HS5 'S. THAT PRICE DIFFERENCE PAYED FOR MY WOOFER THAT PRODUCES AMAZING BASS. NICE VIDEO
Awesome. :-)
it comes from high noise floor in the cheap class D amp inside it hisses like 90% of entry level studio monitors - kali lp2 v2 or adam f5 don't hiss
Thanks for that video very helpful dude
I own both the Yamaha HS50 and HS8 and their accompaning 8" subwoofer. As a long time keyboard player who plays a lot of classical pipe organ as well as all your typical synth VST's, even the HS8's with the Yamaha sub don't have enough low end for me, so I take the Yamaha subs 'sub out' and run it into a KRK K10s 10" sub and that works great. Now I've been looking for a 4th set of studio monitors (I also have Tannoy PBM 6.5s) and the Presonus 5's and a Presonus 10" sub has been on my radar, so I'm going through youtube reviews of the Presonus right now. As far as the Presonus hiss goes, I've never had a set of active bi-amped studio monitors that didn't hiss when the level on the speaker back is turned up (I've owned the KRK VXT6's as well) To get around the hiss I run all my monitors volume levels at around half way, and turn up the levels on everything else i.e. my DAW, synthesizers, iPads, etc are cranked. Are you saying the presonus have hiss even turned downed past half way?
If memory serves correct, I think I had them set at half their output level and I got the hiss.
Black Raven Films
Ok yeah that would drive me nuts. I'm leaning towards the small Neuman's myself.
I respect Adam's feelings/opinions on the noise level of the noise from the tweeters of the Presonus E5's. However, in fairness to anyone who may be viewing, I think it would be helpful to know that on the E5's in my room, I measured less than 1db of noise at 1 ft from the tweeter. For Adam, this was an issue and that's fine. However I think for most people, this would be an absolute non-issue. FWIW.
Appreciate the feedback Jerry and I'm glad you're having much better success with your units. :-)
thanx for sharing,,,,very very helpfullll......
If they're unconnected from any source, that white noise is probably coming out from the internal (cheap) power amplifier (or cross-over), not the tweeter itself. It's difficult to fix it without "re-engineering" the internal components. Nice choice with HS7.
Thanks. That was helpful.
Someone told me their speaker did the same thing but it was cause their router was too close to it, you might want to try that
+ComedyandTruthx2 Routers can cause interference, but it wasn't a router issue on the Presonus speakers white noise issue.
I wish I had watched this video before I bought the E5's + Sub8. After using a pair of Celestion KR2 + Yamaha A100a amp for 25+ years I decided to do some upgrade... and I was shocked by the noise level of these things. My KR2's were dead silent after 25 years of daily use, even with volume up, the sound was perfectly balanced and clean. The Eris E5 + Sub8 are noisy even when not connected to anything (think of 3 speakers humming in a small semi-treated room). The E5's are ok in the mids but not as clean as my dinosaur KR2 and the highs are not defined, you have to boost the highs but it still lacks definition. The Sub8 is also muddy and lacks a lot of definition, I wish I had bought a pair of HS8 and I would be way better off. If you are considering the E5's + Sub8 for mixing you can forget it. Nowadays whatever is sold as "studio-grade" has to be taken with a big grain of salt.
Good video man,I'm buying the hs8's in a couple of weeks mainly due to the fact I will be making electronic music and I don't want to use a sub...
+momas24 You ever end up getting the HS8's? I'm debating between getting the HS5's with a sub or getting the HS7's as a stand alone. I just have limited desk space.... Lemme know. Thanks.
+Joshua Pinter You'll definitely want a sub, even with the HS7's. The HS7's certainly produce audible bass, down to 45 Hz, but a subwoofer is where the magic happens. Modern mixing focuses heavily on bass clarity and you'll want to stay on par with the pros. Even if you're not mixing Hip-Hop or EDM, it's important to have that extra precision of a sub woofer. Hope that helps!
HS7 for mid and high fully controlled and natural and for lows paired with HS8S subs.
That white noise is probably due to they interphase your using mine are silent as can be .
Don't use RCA cables. I have the presonus e5 and had the problem with RCA but when I switched to balance TRS quarter inch and they now are dead silent!
Then you need to spend an additional 150-200 dollars for an interface. If it works fine with one pair, it should work fine with another. It just means the problem is with the model.
I was using balanced and shielded XLR to TRS cables and an interface, no dice. Four seperate speakers had the same hum, even after plugging into multiple outlets. They're great speakers, but they have too high a noise floor for my tastes.
That is weird, I have no noise floor. Like none at all.
Yamahas are the best mixing monitors in their price range. I think the lack of bass on the HS5s can actually be a benefit. That said, you would definitely need to check your low end elsewhere. You should probably be doing that anyway. That said, the HS7s are the perfect mixing monitors if you could only have one.
Great insight. Thanks.
I hear the noise only when I put my ear to the tweeter other than that I don't hear it.
facts, never had that white noise issue
true ...... the vvvv sound on the LP6 was very louder than E5.....
What is the model of pads speakers?
Adam Hall. They're cheap, but they work for me.
Thank's, they are black or grey anthracite?
Célian Longrais
anthracite
class D amplifiers are much more efficient, and don’t get hot like class AB amps, but are prone to white noise.
You just need some regular speakers. I'm looking for hs5 vs hs7 for making music not for a speaker to sit on my desk 🤦🏻♂️. I guess it was somewhat helpful hs7 more sound makes sense it has a bigger speaker LOL cool story
thx for video!
which asus monitor?
I'm currently in the market for a good pair of studio monitors (upgrading from PSB Alpha PS1). I, too, was considering the Presonus Eris E5, until I heard some not-so-good things about their shitty customer service, and the 1-Year-Warranty, which shows that they aren't really confident in the longevity of their product.
in the past I have tried this eris 5 .... my ears with this trebles pfff ..... I return them. I had same problem with the dt990. Too much high for my ears. Not flat.
and yes there is hsss sound too. I dont have hsss sound with RP5, HS7 or eris 4.5 .....
When I first tried the 770 pro 250 they had too much bass and I hated them. I Carried on using them and the bass settled down.
I love the headphones so maybe try giving them a chance to break in first?
Mute button! I have the Eris e8's and I have them at unity on input gain don't have it all the way up or your output gain for your monitors is cranked because mine are totally silent if the logo wasn't lit I wouldn't know they were on,gain staging dude,
Glad to hear they work for you. The four I tested had the white noise there when NOTHING was plugged into them but a power cord.
I have E5s, and after watching this I tried to get everything as quiet as I possibly could to check my monitors for tweeter white noise. I could hear some white noise coming from the tweeter on one (only one) of my monitors. In order to hear it, I had to put my ear right up to the tweeter. If I sat at a reasonable distance from the speakers (which in my studio is only about 600mm or 2'), I couldn't hear it. Maybe my hearing is going, maybe there's something different in the environment between our two spaces. This is in no way a slight against the Yamaha which I believe are excellent monitors and I would have considered them except that where I am they are a more expensive option and at this point my budget was fixed around the Eris E5 price as a maximum and I am very happy with the Eris. As you say, they have a great sound. If I could ask Black Raven, did the white noise get worse over time or was it fairly constant from the start with both sets of E5 monitors you tried? I'm interested to know if I should keep my ears open for any changes in the future.
+riloh58 They stayed the same from what I could tell. I didn't have them for that long. :-)
Black Raven Films Cheers. I am watching (ie listening) closely to mine to see if anything changes. So far, so good and I'm still happy with them.
there is a little "vvvvvv" sound when you turn on the E5, it's the amp. it's normal ;)
Actually if you keep your volume way up and not playing any music or sending any sort of signals to the speakers, you will get that audible white noise. It's not just only Eris is at fault. Doesn't matter what brand of monitors/speakers you use. I was hoping you will say that Yamaha don't do that but you didn't say that. I have M-Audio, I have Eris and I get that white noise when I turn up the volume and not playing anything. Its normal for any speaker to do that. Keep in mind, the amp volume is pushing power to the speakers and it has some sort of impact on the tweeters. Unless, you use any gate/hush device in the signal chain to keep it dead quite. Also, if you leave you volume up and suddenly clicked to play a music, that should deaf your ears out or damage your speakers/monitors very easily. NOT a good idea to keep you volume up when you are not playing anything. Normal practice is, turn your volume down when not in use. IMO.
A lot of people complain about the lack of bass on the Yamaha hs5 but people dont know thats basically the magic of the design of the speakers. Lets put it this way...if you have a well treated room with bass traps or your room doesnt resonate bass frequencies like most of home studios rooms , they will lack bass. But if your room have no bass traps and your room resonate like 99% of the home studio rooms then the same room will resonate those low frequencies and there you go ...you now have the bass the speakers originally were lacking. Thats the problem a lot of people use them in well treated rooms and they were designed specially for the home "room" studio owner in mind. I actually had the HS50M and changed them for the HS7 now I noticed theres a lot of low frequency pressure in the room even with bass traps. So I know for sure the HS5 will sound much better in the room due to the lack of low frequency. Something to have in mind.
First thing first, i played 40hz sine wave. Used REW. I can hear them. Has bass ? Yes.
It is a calibrated HS5 to sound as flat as possible at my room.
Play a certain song, like ADAMAS with HS8S, the Subwoofer. Oh mother goose, theres a bass drum sound i can't hear while not using the Subwoofer.
Theres the answer.
Yup.. E5 produced quite an annoying white noise. Presonus did improve on the E5 XT, less audible noise & extra frequency range
#eStudioStar ROCKS !!
Would've loved the hear said white noise. How much is a couple of dBs?
Asking because I've been around a few sets of the PreSonus', and never experienced any noise beyond what little any speaker will output once turned on.
And in a big head to head test of a lot of speakers, they absolutely _wiped_ the floor with the Yamahas - switching from the Yamahas to the PreSonus' was like pulling wool out your ears, as the soundstage opened and "new" details appeared.
Also since you know a pro soundguy, I would suggest you have a serious talk with him about placement of speakers with rear firing bass port. Because the setup you have here in the video, will have wildly out of control frequencies, as well as ambient- and clutter noise. Neither the speakers, nor the setup, is at any point suitable for critical listening, mixing, or any of the sort.
I know I'm too late with this part, as you'll probably have used them for over 1 year now. But it's worth considering here that the Yamahas are at best average compared to the nearest competition. They are some of the most recommended speakers, by people that have absolutely no understanding of the difference between front and rear firing bass ports. And probably haven't done a single critical test between speakers in a suitable enviroment. But rather just chosen the Yamahas on recommendation and the fame of the NS-10s - which incidently was famous for being crap speakers, which made them good for reference listening, *not* good primary monitors.
My Eris E5s don't hiss at all.
I have not noise at all!!!, make sure you use a decent audio interface, a good cable, recomending a XLR, keep studio monitor away from computer monitor or any other source that could cause noise. Not sure where you placed your amp or audio interface also. You could argue "this does not happen with the Yamaha" that's ok, evey studio monitor is different, some more sensitive than others but I can gurantee you mine does not produce any noise, not even with my ear close to the woofer or twiter.
where can i get that desk?
+jimmy Garcia Lol, it's an Ikea special. It's cheap, but I love the glossy red. :-)
I like it too, do you know the especify name of the table?
+jimmy Garcia www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/50251345/ LINNMON Table Top. I bought when it came with legs, but Ikea change up their ordering and it looks like you buy those separate. The table is VERY light, it is not beefy at all, but it works for me and I like it. :-)
+Black Raven Films What stand for the speakers are you using?
+BehelitOutlaw No stands, just some sound foam for them to sit on.
can you give me that presonus e5?
Get a job first?
Faizal Ibrahim i have no white noise or hiss issues with my eris e5.
not a tiny little noise. they are absolutely quiet when not playing music. ;-) i ordered the 10" subwoofer and i love this setup. with a little room treatment everything worked out fine. i love presonus #presonus #presonusaudio
I'm sure someone has already told you, but the Yamaha HS5's are not bass lacking, and dont need a sub.
They are accurate on purpose, the reason is so that you can add bass in the mixing process.
I use a set of them and have great mixes.
I think I was just referring to the difference in frequency ranges the units can recreate: Frequency Response
HS5: 74-24k
HS7: 55-24k
Exactly. @@BlackRavenFilmsTV
wat about krks
i have both .... KRK are scouped between 1kHz and 6kHz. The Eris is open in this zone.
Thanks for the review...I use to have noise issues until I got an power conditioner and upgraded to Mogami cables...Not saying that was the issue, just sharing some experience...I am thinking about getting the hs7's too.
+DIXI FREELY I was looking at a power conditioner, but when I switched to the Yamaha's the noise issue disappeared.
+Black Raven Films That's good. I would suggest getting one still. I can't even hear my PC any more. I had no idea that a power conditioner would make such a difference. Also added protection against energy spikes etc...I have one that is made by APC and got it from Amaz....