If there's anything to take away from this is that Williams' 2010's strategy of hiring pay drivers, looking for money instead of talent is the reason why they're struggling so much right now. If anything, Russell and Albon are the saving graces of the last decade.
Under their new ownership they no longer depend on "pay drivers". Albon was eventually forced to sever ties with Red Bull which doesn't bode well for a certain Liam Lawson to be "parked" at Williams for 2024 as some are speculating.
To a point, but if what’s under you doesn’t go fast then it doesn’t matter really and Williams refound themselves with that gorgeous 2014 car and all it achieved; though I do agree perhaps character like Stroll entering the scene meant lower points scored, but it’s that game of investment I guess, short term gain etc
Williams hopes of success ended when Frank Williams refused to sell to BMW... They didn't chose to hire pay drivers, they HAD to... it wasn't a strategy. In 2008 Bernie Ecclestone pretty much saved the team when it was on the brink of total financial collapse to avoid yet another team leaving F1.
Frank was kind of "forced out" of his first team by Wolfe back then. It's worth mentioning. Because it honestly ended up affecting the future of Williams when they should have sold shares to BMW in the 2000s. But Frank was unwilling to relinquish control because of the experience with Wolfe. Experience molds us, makes us get set in our ways as we grow older. It's "fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me"
22:46 Is that the wife of the Austrian born Mercedes AMG Petronas team principal who won eight constructors chapionships and seven drivers championships, one of them won by the Monaco based RUclipsr who beat the seven time world champion in equal machinery?
And is that 3:12 the finnish man who won the championship with a single race win, the first finnish champ, and last champion to win with the cosworth DFV, and Also the father of 15 time honorary champion who beat 2 7 time world champions in equal machinery?
From heroes to soon to be zeroes: Between Hungary 1992 and Australia 1996 they lost Mansell, Prost, Senna, Mansell again, Hill and Newey, either from chasing the horizon in the driver market, or refusing to see the writing on the wall in the technical department…
That was excellent. I’ve been a big fan of Williams since the Mansell days. It makes me sad to see how low they got but also makes me happy to see Alex driving the socks off the Williams nowadays.
A history of legacy drivers would be interesting, i.e. Bruno senna, nico rosberg, max verstappen, and compare them to their predecessors, ayrton, keke, and jos
It's quite unfair to compare Bruno with the other two, since he didn't have the opportunity to grow alongside his mentor and learn much from him. More or less the same situation as Mick Schumacher.
@@chombus2602 I totally agree with your point. I was thinking of it more as a list, because I'm sure there are more connections between drivers than I am aware of. From the drivers I can think of, it seems to be about 50/50 in terms of successful legacy drivers vs less successful drivers.
Webber should've went Sauber with Nick. That 2006 Williams car was a massive disappointment, that was the car that made me dislike the team for a few years
Dude, that Thumbnail is Gold. Also: I don't want to annoy you posting the same wish twice, but as your channel has recently replaced my Netflix and other streaming services - pleaaaase... Give us an "All 1980s Drivers rated" video. Cheers, man!
2 videos in one week LFG. I’ll listen to ur videos once and then repeat helps me concentrate to have background noise especially interesting content like yours! Keep up good work Peter 🤙🏻
I'm hoping Albon's heroics are signalling something of a return to form for Williams. I reckon the best candidate currently on the grid for a 2024 seat with Williams, providing they are indeed resurgent, is Daniel Ricciardo. I don't think anybody will be able to surpass Verstappen at this stage, and Sargent's been a bit of a damp squib (though not quite as bad as Latifi). Someone with the experience Ricciardo has could be just what Williams needs to start earning double-points finishes again - maybe even a podium or two!
do red bull soon. from the only late 90s startup constructor with potential that can hire experienced drivers like johnny herbert and rising brazilian rubens barrichello to world beater constructor that produces german and belgian world champions
That wasn't a Williams F1 entry. It was a Williams loaned out to a team in another series. I'm not sure if that series was the Aurora series or British F1.
What's up with the massive like to dislike ratio? For me it's 166 to 513 right now.. Why would someone dislike a video like this? Edit, a day later: Strange, all of those are GONE now. DId someone try to bot-dislike the video? It's 490 to 3 now.
@@RANDOMZBOSSMAN1f@$!.. Videos in the same playlist. The video I was commenting on ended and this one started so it posted the comment on this one🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️😭😭didn’t even notice
Amazing how drivers in the early 80s especially were into their 30s when getting a decent drive. Imagine if Rosberg debuted at 17, like Verstappen, it would have been 15 years earlier than his 1982 title in 1967!!!!!
Drivers dont move around enough and careers last too long thesedays! They are too media trained and too many are too nice. The ruthless ones are those who win most - like Max...
Interesting thing about the continuing amount of season of any team scoring points or podiums next to wins. Checked for Mclaren quickly, they had a 32 year contintues run of scoring podiums from 1981-2012. Actually they had podiums from 1968 up to (and including) 2012 if it weren't for just 2 seasons (1971 and 1980). After 2012 it had just 2 podiums in that decade (Magnussen in 2014 and Norris in 2019), and podiums again every year of this decade so far. Wins is whole other thing of course.
In this video, we see the in my opinion worst F1 driver ever..: ALEX ZANARDI. While a very young Ralf Schumacher reached several podiums, Zanardi didn’t score A SINGLE POINT ! Let’s compare it with famous Luca Badoer and Yuji Ide: Ide had a very bad car in which you weren’t able to score points. Of course his teammate Sato was a far better driver. Badoer sat in a Ferrari in the same race which his teammate Kimi won. But he just got two races (Europe and Belgium) and almost scored points in a very bad Minardi in 1999. Zanardi meanwhile drove a whole season in a Williams which was able to reach podiums and Ralf even could have won a race at the Nurburgring. So Zanardi remains for me as the worst F1 driver in the last 25 years at least
Dave walker is even worst he didnt score a single point for Lotus but there first driver emerson fittipaldi won the championship and the constroction championship.
This was a very interesting video. I hope this becomes a series for teams with a long history such as Ferrari and McLaren, but I think teams with a long history as different teams such as Mercedes which once was Tyrrell might also be an option. Once again, great video!
I know Kimi Raikkonen is miles past his past, but even he would be a major upgrade on Sargeant. And his CV and fame might attract a couple of sponsors and more publicity to Williams
Current world champion Mansell being afraid of Prost and then a year later current world champion Prost being afraid of Senna. This shows Senna > Prost > Mansell. Even if I would have loved to see Mansell beating Prost in 1993
Prost did not want Senna as a team mate due to several things. As team mates Wanna tried to put Prost into the pit wall in Portugal. I think Mansell found Pros t too political from their time at Ferrari.
If there's anything to take away from this is that Williams' 2010's strategy of hiring pay drivers, looking for money instead of talent is the reason why they're struggling so much right now. If anything, Russell and Albon are the saving graces of the last decade.
A comment which is not lying 👍
Under their new ownership they no longer depend on "pay drivers". Albon was eventually forced to sever ties with Red Bull which doesn't bode well for a certain Liam Lawson to be "parked" at Williams for 2024 as some are speculating.
To a point, but if what’s under you doesn’t go fast then it doesn’t matter really and Williams refound themselves with that gorgeous 2014 car and all it achieved; though I do agree perhaps character like Stroll entering the scene meant lower points scored, but it’s that game of investment I guess, short term gain etc
Williams hopes of success ended when Frank Williams refused to sell to BMW...
They didn't chose to hire pay drivers, they HAD to... it wasn't a strategy.
In 2008 Bernie Ecclestone pretty much saved the team when it was on the brink of total financial collapse to avoid yet another team leaving F1.
If they'd kept Barrichello for 2012 then they would've finished a lot higher up in the Constructors standings.
Just so you don't forget, Maldonado's win at Spain is (so far) Williams' last overall win, and Stroll's podium in Baku until Russell's "podium" at Spa
Thats true- and also quite odd if you remember the excellence of the Team that it had shown before
Frank was kind of "forced out" of his first team by Wolfe back then. It's worth mentioning. Because it honestly ended up affecting the future of Williams when they should have sold shares to BMW in the 2000s. But Frank was unwilling to relinquish control because of the experience with Wolfe.
Experience molds us, makes us get set in our ways as we grow older. It's "fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me"
Could you imagine how Barrichello would have cooked if he stayed for 2012
22:46
Is that the wife of the Austrian born Mercedes AMG Petronas team principal who won eight constructors chapionships and seven drivers championships, one of them won by the Monaco based RUclipsr who beat the seven time world champion in equal machinery?
He beat BOTH 7 time champions in equal machinery.
@@Edelweiss1102 Nico 'honarary 15 time world champion' Rosberg
Yes lol
And is that 3:12 the finnish man who won the championship with a single race win, the first finnish champ, and last champion to win with the cosworth DFV, and
Also the father of 15 time honorary champion who beat 2 7 time world champions in equal machinery?
Cant be
If you thought that Red Bull's second seat was a hot one, transfer history of Williams comes to you and says "hold my beer" 😂
From heroes to soon to be zeroes: Between Hungary 1992 and Australia 1996 they lost Mansell, Prost, Senna, Mansell again, Hill and Newey, either from chasing the horizon in the driver market, or refusing to see the writing on the wall in the technical department…
That was excellent. I’ve been a big fan of Williams since the Mansell days. It makes me sad to see how low they got but also makes me happy to see Alex driving the socks off the Williams nowadays.
A history of legacy drivers would be interesting, i.e. Bruno senna, nico rosberg, max verstappen, and compare them to their predecessors, ayrton, keke, and jos
It's quite unfair to compare Bruno with the other two, since he didn't have the opportunity to grow alongside his mentor and learn much from him. More or less the same situation as Mick Schumacher.
@@chombus2602 I totally agree with your point. I was thinking of it more as a list, because I'm sure there are more connections between drivers than I am aware of. From the drivers I can think of, it seems to be about 50/50 in terms of successful legacy drivers vs less successful drivers.
Rosberg won only one race in 1982 but consistency gain him the title
“consistency” 💀💀💀
Webber should've went Sauber with Nick. That 2006 Williams car was a massive disappointment, that was the car that made me dislike the team for a few years
Dude, that Thumbnail is Gold. Also: I don't want to annoy you posting the same wish twice, but as your channel has recently replaced my Netflix and other streaming services - pleaaaase... Give us an "All 1980s Drivers rated" video. Cheers, man!
Ahhh... Williams, the last of the British F1 teams to be snatched up by foreign investors.
Good stuff, Peter, as always.
Well put together film m8! Williams shall return!!
2 videos in one week LFG. I’ll listen to ur videos once and then repeat helps me concentrate to have background noise especially interesting content like yours! Keep up good work Peter 🤙🏻
I know they tried to get Raikkonen for 2012, I do wonder what results that car could of got in his hands.
Can't believe that was a half hour video, felt like it was 5 minutes. Great video.
We need more of these :)
Believe or not, their "dumb' driver transfer is most factor which let them to their downfall.
Thank you for another awesome video Peter!
So who's next? Maybe - F1 Driver Transfer Histories: McLAREN?
excellent video !
I'm hoping Albon's heroics are signalling something of a return to form for Williams. I reckon the best candidate currently on the grid for a 2024 seat with Williams, providing they are indeed resurgent, is Daniel Ricciardo. I don't think anybody will be able to surpass Verstappen at this stage, and Sargent's been a bit of a damp squib (though not quite as bad as Latifi). Someone with the experience Ricciardo has could be just what Williams needs to start earning double-points finishes again - maybe even a podium or two!
They need to drop Sargent and sign liam for next year
Thank You!
does anybody remember Sergey Sirotkin?
I do. That is, when someone reminds me of him.
do red bull soon. from the only late 90s startup constructor with potential that can hire experienced drivers like johnny herbert and rising brazilian rubens barrichello to world beater constructor that produces german and belgian world champions
No
@@TonySpikewhy?
Nah, Stewart and Red Bull are in the same "family tree", but they are far from being the same team as Williams
Wow, what a powerful thumbnail
Do Colin chapman Lotas
I think Renault and Sauber can be good
Get ready for a two year hour video if he does Sauber
Completly forgot Sirotkin ever raced in F1
Sargeant has been confirmed for 2024 alongside Albon!
Do a what if this driver moved happeneded
do minardi next
So... AlphaTauri?
I'm shocked that Peter went through whole video without making Rosberg beating Hamilton in equal machinery joke.
Oh did you know that Rosberg beat Hamilton in equal machinery? Thought you might be interested.
You are able to monetize this, right?
Any "collection" of rules for uploading actually copyrighted f1 stuff?
Is that one drivers name 'Jack Pitstoppia'? Lmao 😉🤡
It's just sad to watch the decline. If they try real hard they could be the new minard.
This video confirms 2 things for me.
1: it's bloody brilliant, interesting and informative
2: F1 after the mid 2000's just doesn't interest me at all.
The end of v10s was the end of "real" F1 for me
F1 mid-late 2000's still good, especially early V8 era.
first! excited for the video
Bro think he is in pornhub 💀
Williams have had the holy trinity:
Jean Louis Schlesser
Pastor Maldonado
Nichoas Latifi
The back to back switch up from Saudi sponsorships to pride flag livery is absolutely insane
That wasn't a Williams F1 entry. It was a Williams loaned out to a team in another series. I'm not sure if that series was the Aurora series or British F1.
ABS didn’t come along until 1993 IIRC…
The car that Frank sold to Wolf had a win for them I think.
Jody Scheckter won a few races for Wolf but the cars were no longer Williams chassis. They were designed by Dr Harvey Postlewaite.
What's up with the massive like to dislike ratio? For me it's 166 to 513 right now.. Why would someone dislike a video like this?
Edit, a day later: Strange, all of those are GONE now. DId someone try to bot-dislike the video? It's 490 to 3 now.
Blunt Force Drama
Edit: What have I done??😂😭
What are you on about?
@@RANDOMZBOSSMAN1f@$!.. Videos in the same playlist. The video I was commenting on ended and this one started so it posted the comment on this one🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️😭😭didn’t even notice
@@Shimeih oh fair enough lol it defo can happen
Hope you have a good day
@@RANDOMZBOSSMAN1 same to you
@@Shimeih Oh did you know that Rosberg beat Hamilton in equal machinery? Thought you might be interested. (Joke joke)
So... McLaren is next?
get your one hour ticket here
Amazing how drivers in the early 80s especially were into their 30s when getting a decent drive. Imagine if Rosberg debuted at 17, like Verstappen, it would have been 15 years earlier than his 1982 title in 1967!!!!!
This was an awesome listen, more of these Driver Transfer History videos would be great :)
I'm still laughing at your video thumbnail.
Redbull racing team next
That’s gonna take like 50 hours
No
SHUT UP TONY WHY ARE YOU REPLYING NO TO EVERY RED BULL COMMENT GET OUT OF MY HEAD @@TonySpike
@@TonySpikeyes
@@Kacper_Akarii no way for a 26 year old team
Drivers dont move around enough and careers last too long thesedays! They are too media trained and too many are too nice. The ruthless ones are those who win most - like Max...
Interesting thing about the continuing amount of season of any team scoring points or podiums next to wins. Checked for Mclaren quickly, they had a 32 year contintues run of scoring podiums from 1981-2012. Actually they had podiums from 1968 up to (and including) 2012 if it weren't for just 2 seasons (1971 and 1980). After 2012 it had just 2 podiums in that decade (Magnussen in 2014 and Norris in 2019), and podiums again every year of this decade so far. Wins is whole other thing of course.
Added stat: Ferrari has had only 2 podium-less seasons in it's past, '73 and '80.
Carlos also finished on the podium in Brazil in 2019 after Hamilton's penalty
@@adammercer6004 I stand corrected, thank you! The podium was Sainz instead of Norris, so not one more that season.
Oh did you know that Rosberg beat Hamilton in equal machinery? Thought you might be interested. Let me know if you where.
In this video, we see the in my opinion worst F1 driver ever..: ALEX ZANARDI. While a very young Ralf Schumacher reached several podiums, Zanardi didn’t score A SINGLE POINT ! Let’s compare it with famous Luca Badoer and Yuji Ide: Ide had a very bad car in which you weren’t able to score points. Of course his teammate Sato was a far better driver. Badoer sat in a Ferrari in the same race which his teammate Kimi won. But he just got two races (Europe and Belgium) and almost scored points in a very bad Minardi in 1999. Zanardi meanwhile drove a whole season in a Williams which was able to reach podiums and Ralf even could have won a race at the Nurburgring. So Zanardi remains for me as the worst F1 driver in the last 25 years at least
Dave walker is even worst he didnt score a single point for Lotus but there first driver emerson fittipaldi won the championship and the constroction championship.
That thumbnail lol
Wow what an interesting idea for a video! Thanks Peter
This was a very interesting video. I hope this becomes a series for teams with a long history such as Ferrari and McLaren, but I think teams with a long history as different teams such as Mercedes which once was Tyrrell might also be an option. Once again, great video!
Wow, I didn't know about Magnussen's offer to replace Russell. His decision to decline the offer was fair.
Chadwick failed so much after the W series ,not impressed !
Now Lia Block is part of the Williams academy
I know Kimi Raikkonen is miles past his past, but even he would be a major upgrade on Sargeant. And his CV and fame might attract a couple of sponsors and more publicity to Williams
You can probably do Merc in a short 😂
Oh did you know that Rosberg beat Hamilton in equal machinery? Thought you might be interested. (Joke)
Can someone explain too me what are these financial backing from big companies for a race team to pick a driver ?
that thumbnail is hilarious 😂
excellent research Peter
Sauber too
great vid
Interested too see this one.
Current world champion Mansell being afraid of Prost and then a year later current world champion Prost being afraid of Senna. This shows Senna > Prost > Mansell. Even if I would have loved to see Mansell beating Prost in 1993
Presumably this means Derek Warwick is better than all of them because Senna vetoed him joining Lotus in 1986
@@CameronMcRae09 haha Yeah 😂
Prost did not want Senna as a team mate due to several things. As team mates Wanna tried to put Prost into the pit wall in Portugal. I think Mansell found Pros t too political from their time at Ferrari.