Anyone Can Make Railway Wheels From A Pipe - the cheapest wheels possible.
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- Опубликовано: 11 авг 2021
- Another video about making railways? I know, but this one is the simplest yet...
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Be he across or on the same side of the pond..
Of Irishman Tim we’ve grown rather fond…
Bits and scrap from under the brush he will find…
He cobbles together wheels for his railway line…
Railway! Definitely on the list of garden accessories, once we finaly are at that stage.
For the tapered treads, since your pipe has walls twice as thick as needed, why not put the flat tread wheels into a lathe and cut a slight taper into them? It isn't needed, but it might be worth doing, and it would also make the treads smoother, because you would remove the rust pitting, so that would slightly decrease rolling resistance. I don't know if it would be worth it or not, but it could be a fun experiment. Maybe taper the wheels on one of your chip wagons, and do a performance comparison between it and another one on various parts of the railway, and if you notice any improvement, do the rest.
If you ever feel so inclined, i'd check out the Gingery lathe and workshop, this guy made his whole workshop out of a power drill, and a charcoal furnace to melt aluminum. He made a lathe, a mill, a shaper, and a drill press. Im sure you could get some good inspiration to help with TimCo railyards! :P
I really like these, and the whole field railway project! You'll probably get lots of comments about welding galvanised pipe though, so let me be the first: you do *not* want to breathe zinc oxide fumes, it can cause "metal fume fever" and even death. Please make sure the galv is cleaned off before welding, or use a full respirator.
Also, make sure the cartridges for the respirator are appropriately rated! You don't want to use just an ordinary dust/particulate or organic vapor (sanding or painting) cartridge when you're working with heavy metal fingers.
Does holding your breath and crossing your fingers work?
@@liamholcroft7212 If you've got really good ventilation in the welding area? Yeah, hold your breath during the weld and for a bit after while the fumes clear, you should be okay, but it's still risky doing it like that.
@@Kineth1 It'll be reet
Welding any Gav steel, if possible Soot it first, blacken, it helps stop the gav exploding.
Also drink some milk before you start welding, helps if you get TOO MUCH FUMES swallowed.
Now mount your stationary engine on a cart, on those railway wheels and make your own locomotive. With enough track circling the horse arena, the children will be delighted with the ride. Thanks for the video. Jon
Proof once again, where there is a will, there is a way. Great idea and product. Thumbs Up!
I’m in the very very early stages of planning a railway for a community cider orchard. Your channel is an absolute inspiration!!
Best of luck!
Awesome to see the balance between cost and time vs. effectivity for your wheelsets! Since you're using non-tapered wheels, you might be able to use a wooden tramway instead of rails in some areas.
Another good one Tim. You haven't come off the rails yet with your inventions. I look forward to your videos. Keep em coming.
A very green transport solution once fabricated.
It's precisely because so many of us can't do what Tim does that makes it so fascinating to watch him at work.
Another beautiful job guys thank you Tim. I need a railway to the Swimpactor. The Swimpactor is a pool that is made from a trash compactor. So when I go to make it I will definitely be using old rusty junk. Thanks again for sharing!
Hi, Great video, I am really enjoying the videos. Just wondering if you would be willing to tell me what cnc plasma cutter you use. im in the market for one and looking for a recommendation.
Nice to see you here too! Wouldn't it be awesome if you built railway and they built a timber frame building haha
Thanks, Kris, I'm enjoying yours too : - )
Rob makes the CNC plasma machines and he's here.. xtremeplasma.ecwid.com/
(tell him I sent you..)
@@WayOutWestx2 Thanks :) much appreciated.
Will your power setup need an upgrade for a plasma cutter?
Came here with basically the exact same question. I saw the link for the tables, can can you say what brand/size of plasma cutter that you were using? Have you been happy with it? Any recommendations otherwise for a first time plasma cutter shopper?
That’s what happens when greedy people want to charge ridiculous prices for rail wheels. Someone is going to come up with a cheaper alternative that works just as good! Good for you!
I always love to see what you've come up with next! You have such an inventor-sized brain.
Love to see an update on the railway project!
Woah the rails are covered in grass looks cute😊😊
Thanks for the video. I love making things with my CNC plasma cutter. You are so creative and practical. I am glad that your rails and cars are working for you.
Outstanding! Thank you for sharing this!!
Might I suggest that the "stat" shaped center pieces for you EXCELLENT 8 inch wheels, be welded into the rings of steel at a pattern 90 degrees from each other in order to encourage a little more strength?
Just a thought.
It's a good thought, Frank. If I was using thinner pipe I think I'd go with that arrangement, but this isn't going anywhere. (Well, I hope it is going somewhere, but you know what I mean!)
If you take two wagons, with pivots on the top you can make a long super flatbed with pivots on each end
You mean, articulated trucks under his load? Blasphemous!
Nice work on the rim cutting fixture.
It is great how you have made life easier.
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Continued to be inspired by your enginuity. Keep going one day I aspire to have a small holding railway.
This is one of the best channels on YT
Lovely lovely video. It was just what the doctor ordered.
Love the videos keep up the great work
Awesome 👍👍👍Thanks for sharing
Nothing more satisfying than a tight fitting flange.
Ive been getting your awsome ideas from u guys and im doing this project in my backyard im a canadian railroader
Well done!
Brilliant purely brilliant well done.
Thanks!!! You are the best
Very good video!
Good job
Marvellous! "I'm sure you figured that out". No I didn't (as usual), but I still love this video, good luck with the wagons, can't wait
Wheel be looking out for your next video on this project then bro. Nicely made by the way.
Splendid
Your voice reminds me of Oliver Postgate, the man who made Bagpuss, amongst many.
Good find. You can never go wrong with a scrap pipe that you forgot about in the pile or laid about! The wheels look super nice and the pipe you are using is a good choice for cost. I can not think of anything else that would be cheaper unless it was scrap metal. This would be better as if you need more you can just pick it up.
I always look forward to see what you come up with. Nice job on the cut locations and details.
Thanks, William : - )
Home made monzas on your railway 👌👌👌
That was some seriously thick iron, the railway will bend before those wheels do. They will survive anything except maybe a dragon, haha
Good stuff
Sehr sehr gutes Ergebnis! Ich wünschte mir das auch. Ein Schienennetz auf dem Grundstück. 😃
GREAT!
I thought it was dangerous welding galvanized metal, you made it look easy.
It's not mechanical/fire/explosive type dangerous. It's heavy metal fume inhalation type dangerous. High potential for toxic inhalation injury.
These wheels would definitely be easier to make if you don't have a lathe!
I have to look into building a pipe cutter like the one in your video. I saw the link to your video about that, so now I need to watch that one. :-)
I'm building my own railway (though I don't have a garden, I live in a city I moved into several month ago) and I should say that wheels are by far the most complicated and depressing part once they don't turn out what you expected them to be. My whole construction is as follows:
1. OSB trainset, parts for locomotive are ready (sawn with a jigsaw literally on the bench in the yard)
2. PVC pipe rails, wooden sleepers.
3. OSB wheels of three parts each - 2x 76mm x 10mm rounds made with crown saws and a bigger one as a flange, assembled together with screws for drywall. Edges finished with sealant.
So, when I started to put carts together I realized they're as substandard as they can possibly be. Literally everything was assembled on the knee. When I started doing this, I decided to make everything by myself, except ball bearings and screws (and material of course), but now I realize I'd better bought plastic wheels from store. They're not as authentic, but they're all the same.
I'm really fascinated you make it right from the first try.
Maith thú!
What you've learned is really important, and it's only cost you some OSB and some pipe, so well done.
An even easier way to make the inserts is to take two flat bars of around 60mm x 5mm x wheel diameter, drill an axle hole in the centre of each length and then lay one on top of the other in a cross shape with the two holes lined up to accept the axle. Weld them together and it's done.
Great thought and comment! It is in fact difficult to keep things as simple as possible. We all tend to fall into the trap of finding solutions using our set of tools we are used to using. KISS is almost an art form and takes a surprising amount of knowledge to facilitate. Again, great comment.
Yep. That's a great idea. (Where were you when I started?!)
@@WayOutWestx2 Tim, I could say the same thing about you. I work two jobs as a theatre set builder and as a welder working for a small company. In both roles, I strive to create economical solutions to unique engineering challenges. Your skills and innovative solutions are an absolute inspiration to me.
@@rolliebca Thanks Rolland, We all have skills we can bring to the table. Tim's skills are far superior to mine but we can all grow our skills together simply by sharing.
Nice!! Would love to see the finished product
You and me both!
People comments ha what a joke, they not running a railway, sit in comfy chair, in one hand hold a beer and in the other hold the mouse, watch the video and make nonsensical comments on how it should be accomplished. Grand job on the wheels and so economical thanks again for the lovely video and say hello to Eor for me will ya!
Thanks, Richard. Yes, if I had a tenner for all the comments asking me to make a locomotive, I might be able to start on one : - )
Automotive scrap yards should have lots of small car rims
Nice
Loved the comment not a wonderful one like mine lo brilliant
Being thick wall pipe like that if you really wanted you could spin them and take a grinder to the outside to get a little bit of taper but it would take a while for it to be substantial
Tim, have you thought about using a riding mower for your locomotive? Most have reverse, and a couple forward gears to speed up, or slow for more torque. You are inventive, and shouldn't have much difficulty adapting it run on your rails! Always entertained, and amazed at your work! I'm in western Pennsylvania, U.S.
Thanks, Donald - I'm trying to avoid petrol engines, but otherwise it's a good idea
That young man has "working man" hands. No soft work for him!
And a railway company is born! :)
Great solution Tim. I would like a plasma cutter like that, but I don't think I've got the space!
You might need an extension? : - )
Some day it would be great to see a little engine tooting along the line!
Lovely, the more I see your creations, Tim, the more I am convinced that I need a plasma cutter one day (adding it to my massive I WANT list) - such fun! Dont stay away too long making carriage thingies. Thanks for sharing as always. Claire x
If you are serious about wanting a cutter I would suggest investigating a water jet cutter, besides steel you will be able to cut many different materials. No damage or distortion from heat either.
Very accomplished DIY types can even build the expensive portions of a water jet cutter themselves.
@@carld3184 never heard of a water jet cutter - will look in to that - thanks for the tip x
Go-kart split rims. Curious if they would work. I know they're affordable and there's hubs and axles available
There must be a reason you left the axles so long - I'm excited to find out what the new wagon looks like!
I left them long because I wanted the option of going wide with the wagon - but nothing's fixed yet..
Just use a damn pipe wrap and soap stone draw your line and cut the edge of line outside or inside to leave line or cut the line in half is pipe fitters and welders do it like that all the time and its always straight ebough with in 1/32 of a jnch out of roundand when you weld endcap on it will be correct
Get a long flat or v belt ,put around the pipe and over the chuck of a drill . The pipe will roll easier
Hey i don't know how much z height your CNC Plasma gets but if its high enough you can use it to cut round objects too.
You're right - thanks. But I'd have to take it apart to get the height I need
Like I said before, electric motor, couple of car batteries, control box, some sprockets and chain and you could have yourself a little battery-electric locomotive out of one of those wagons you already have made.
Far more urgent jobs to do first, Martin!
@@WayOutWestx2 - I know it is down the list, but one suggestion if you ever do try a locomotive project, plenty of springing in the seat.
I think you no exactly what you are doing and I’m sure railways will not cause any public safety issues. Keep up the good work.
Real wheels are very heavy made out of solid steel. This will hold the car or platform on the track. I would like to sit up ok without being so far low. Just look for an older railroad truck that has the guide wheels on it. Then get them off the front and back.
Hi there Tim and Sandra, I wish to congratulate you on a fantastic site and I love your approach to building your wagons, I have been down all the same road as you and to buy 15 inch gauge wheels for a line would be too rich for my pension sadly, So you can imagine my joy when I saw how you built wheels using tube and flat plate, would it be possible to buy a memory stick with the program for CNC cutting on it or maybe even a package of all the flat pieces cut out?. I am from York in the UK, but fortunately I live with my wife in southern Bulgaria so we are in the EU,so there is no problem with duty etc, just the price for the wheels and and shipping plus making up the packages. I do not need the axles as they would probably make the parcel too long. Please give the idea some thought will you I would probably want 1 set of 4 wheels every month or so, I am also going 15"gauge and would be doing hand trammer wagons first,and maybe a loco over next winter. Once again fabulous site and I hope to emulate your style of building,even down to the charcoal making,all the very best to you and Sandra and keep up the great work. Regards Richard and Janie Feather.
Thanks for your kind comments - and I'd be happy to try to help, of course. But perhaps it would be best if you found the pipe you want to use, and decide on the axle first. Measure everything and we could go from there?
Dear Way out West couple (this time addressed especially to the inventor and his helper).
👍👌👏 Simply fantastic again and as always (video and work). But too short, sigh (just kidding). By the way:
Right at the beginning of the video I wondered how far you would come with those work safety protecting shorts. ;-) 😀😀 Hope that there had been at least no nettles or plants with thorns in the bush/hedge where you found the big steel pipe.
2) In my personal opinion you are absolutely doing the right thing = building your private garden railroad with relatively cheap materials and not overbuilding it. In the way you are doing it, it will last more than long enough. Additionally everything is cheap/easy to fix.
I would have tried to put bearings in the wheels etc.p.p.. So my project would never be finished because of the costs and the effort. The result would have been: procrastination! Please don't ask me why I know, sigh.
As always: Thanks a lot for making teaching explaining recording editing uploading and sharing.
Best regards luck and health to all of you (humans animals and plants).
Ha! Thanks very much - you're one of most loyal and appreciative followers : - )
Dear @@WayOutWestx2Tim.
You're welcome, it's my pleasure. Thanks for replying. Please kindly allow me to ask: Does Sandra also read the comments here or only the ones on the German speaking channel and the monthly updates in English and German? Thanks in advance for answering.
Sincerely yours.
Could you not use the plasma cutter to cut the pipe slices too? Seems like it would be easier than all that grinding. But maybe it's a pain to extract it from the CNC rig
It might be worth doing for this thicker pipe though
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Now we need a scale replica of skarloey on your railway 😂
Nice, but why not use old brake drums? Any that don't already have a flange can be modified.
Tricky to fit to the axles though?
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make some brush cutter blades
A new kinda wagon ….. interesting ! The only wagon I can think of is for people ! Lol.
I'm trying to follow along but someone seems to have neglected to leave any 8" pipe out in the weeds here. 😊
Keep looking, Hugh
Be nice to have a garden tractor that runs on those rails to pull the cars.
Hands up who wants to know what the experiment was?
with the grass overgrowing it, the railway has become a serious tripping hazard
He has said before that at some point he will or can afford to buy stone. Right now Its not in the cards. Though I do see how one might trip on them!
if i am ever able to get out of renting ...i WILL have a railway on my land
Can’t you move pipe near plasma and us it to cut the wheels
Yes, probably - but I was trying to show that you don't need a PC to make wheels
When you get a choo choo you can charge for rides , Me first .
u need lathe for sure
Also, when watching it for the second time, my first thought was "what if Sten gun was built from this pipe?"
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No, I was
Who cares
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Where's the link to the tapered wheels video?
Oops! Sorry - it's up now in the description..
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Does your railway have a name?
Can you think of any good ones?
@@WayOutWestx2 In America at the height of railroading, railroads were sometimes named for the most extreme ambitions of their owners without any regard for the actual route. So perhaps something like Dublin, Paris and Rome Rail System. Not just a railroad, but a System. You can always claim that there are connections available. I've always been partial to the grandiose lettering used by The NY, New Haven and Hartford. Understatement is overrated.
But should you prefer something more realistic and less grand, then how about West Lines? Perhaps that would be more dignified while maintaining a certain ambiguity for future expansion. And it would require less paint.
I can't weld. So there goes your anyone theory.
Frankly, I wouldn't recommend tapered treads for a railway with such narrow rails.
Why don't you just get used car brake rotors and trim the friction surface to the taper you want?
No car breakers near here, and buying them would cost too much . and that would be a LOT of grinding too, don't you think?
Also, I think, you'd still need two inserts, unless you were using monstrous axles that filled the hole in the middle of the rotor.
@@WayOutWestx2 I'm not sure how the forces work out. It would be some grinding, but my local repair shops replace probably 10 brake rotors a day and the old ones go out as scrap metal. They probably do not get $1 US for old ones. Old styles have the hubs integral. You could just add bearings and go. New ones just have a hole. You just make something for the machined side and fill the back with cement. Portland cement could be 2-3000 psi?
Try it and let us know? I'm not convinced but could be persuaded!
But... but the tread needs to be tapered!
:D
Thats why everyone is using train wheels on there cars
good to know, but without tracks no need for railway wheels.
What were your tracks been used for back when they were layed ?
I always thought that the train itself would be more expensive but I guess you will avoid a steam engine and go for battery or gas powered one.
In Dresden is a park railway I had seen on the weekend producing a lot of steam and noise to attract people and having fun while riding along the park.
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