Back in the early 80's I worked for a rail construction company called Smith Miller construction and we rebuilt rail road tracks. I worked on a roughly 40 mile run of rail here in western Oklahoma. I had an opportunity to ride with a state rail inspector and I repaired small issues he found while inspecting the rail we had worked on.. It was a gas powered rail cart and it was SO cool! I have always wanted to go rail riding.! I know of an about 4 mile stretch of rail that has been abandoned for about 30 years or so (the rail crossings on the highway were paved over around that long ago) so I KNOW it hasn't been used in decades, you have inspired me to try something like this myself! Thank you!
"Box of explored ideas", this is true R and D, mistakes are the (albeit annoying) stepping stones Many a RUclips video put there with the same project in mind...creativity is a gift we inherited from God ...it is an enjoyable experience to watch yours, keep building!
We used to have abandoned tracks where I lived along time ago. I always thought of doing or attempting to do what you're doing but never did it. I thought of doing it with a ten speed with outriggers and a guide of some sort.
When fixing nuts and bolts, always apply the bolts in from the top washers and nuts to the bottom. Then if the nut losens and you lose the nut the bolt usually stays in place.
"Park cops couldn't think of anything illegal about this" Technically not trespassing because it's not owned by anybody, And you're not doing any harm in anyway, I think this is every person that loves trains is their dream
I guess the more fun and more scary doesn't come until you can get your hands on one of those electric motorcycle powertrain parts. Got to push well into the KW territory with a 96v lithium battery brick.
That Yardworks mower must be hella old. They're still using a metal frame and Anderson connectors on the battery terminals, looks like a professional cobble-job with whatever parts they had laying around.
if you build your own track, line the iron/steel tracks with copper, and put linear alternating magnets on the car alongside with wheels/skates, it will float while moving but land/stick down when not moving
Nice video, but in order to get the self centering to work properly, the wheels need to be on a solid axle. The taper on the wheels has to be the small end out, this way the taper causes the wheel on the outside of the curve to increase in diameter and the inside wheel to get smaller ( just like rolling a cone ) The flanges on railroad wheels are not there to keep the wheel on the rail ( although they will contact the rail occasionally )
The back wheels need to be connected to a single axle so they cannot turn independently. The front wheels also need to be done the same way. All the wheels need a taper with the small side to the outside. If you get a chance, look at a real train axle and you’ll see what I mean.
Either connect the opposite wheels on a single axle OR, each wheel can have its own motor and electronically controlled like an all-wheel-drive system which is overkill here but possible.
In some countries they use something similar but bigger on active tracks. Theyre powered by a small gas motor. They easily stop and can be disassembled by the passengers in about 15-20 seconds to avoid oncoming trains.
This is a fun video. I think it's worth mentioning that the spec for the flange is only like 1.5" betond the wheel running surface. More than that and you're gonna contact all kinds of stuff. You see it in the video. I can tell you at speed that's gonna do some damage and probably derail you.
Very nice channel. I wanted to try stuff like that for years. Sadly I don't have any opportunity to do so. A youtuber called Kreosan built a draisine to ride on a long railroad. He used 36v wheels from those "hoverboards" that were common some years ago. Maybe that is something you could try too.
I'm starting to look at making an enclosed rail cart with a bunk bed and small stove setup for long travel (100 miles+ out west). What tips would you give someone?
Unfortunately Black & Decker electric mowers are built the same way. Grass builds up in the cavity around the electric motor and you need a Torx driver to remove the top for cleaning.
if you look for them, you can find the actual iron railroad wheels from speeder cars about10 inch in diameter for about 30 dollars a piece. We used them on simple iron bars for axles with hardware store pillow block bearings bolted onto a simple wooden frame held together with thumbscrew bolts. It could be assembled and disassembled in 5 minutes and thrown in the trunk of a car. We just sat on the back and kicked with our feet and went about 15mph. Almost any motor or engine of 1 kilowat or bigger should work.
I have a few hi-rail wheels I found on Craigslist, I just need to find an axle that fits them. I also have some railriders.net wheels that should be showing up in a video soon!
Really should have kept the belt drive. I would have ditched the sprocket on the motor and replaced with a shaft pulley. I would incorporate a engine drive belt tensioner into your build. You can increase your belt a lot by using a much larger pulley on the drive wheel.
Not only is this a great concept and a fun building process to watch, you put some great shots in there like the ones at 6:04 and 9:15, too! Excellent stuff.
I really love the use bigger wheels as flanges for the smaller wheels idea. I thought you were going to be able o drive it to the tracks like that but then there is the question about steering. I guess if you put a drop down/removeable steering wheel of a children's bike then you should be able to use it on pavement and tracks!
I've got a video about that! It's a combination of hoarding, dumpster diving, garage sales, surplus stores, etc. ruclips.net/video/GSNbTmkaKA4/видео.html
For future projects, used hoverboard motors are great for general propulsion; cheap, compact, torquey and you can use an off the shelf e-bike controller
The side plates to keep the wheels on the tracks, do they tun into interference at where track comes to road crossings since there seems to be very little clearance at most. It also seems that the side plates create a lot of drag. Wondering why spring loaded wheels on their own frame set at 30 degrees to the rail. They would only need to touch the top 3/8- 1/2" of the rail.
There are designs that use side wheels and stuff, but my idea was to make this more like a real train. I figured that would go through switches better. The road crossings are an issue because they're either paved over or full of gravel.
Try using a rubber wheels horizontally on the inside to track it. Put one by each wheel. Also I’d suggest runners that electrical motor on a reducer and run a shaft to drive both wheels.
Just come across this channel, seen a few of these rail carts other people have built, but they use petrol engines, batteries will drain in no time. Having said that, I did laugh at your attempts with all the different motors.😄
What about an old 2 stroke enduro or something? Simple engine plus you’d bet a chain drive and tensioner along with it. You could even add a disc brake off of it (if necessary).
This channel is a real hidden gem
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"This thing may not be fast, but at least it's ugly."
I am stealing this quote!
Having a rail cart like this was my childhood dream.
Same 🙂
Time for it to be fulfilled
Back in the early 80's I worked for a rail construction company called Smith Miller construction and we rebuilt rail road tracks. I worked on a roughly 40 mile run of rail here in western Oklahoma. I had an opportunity to ride with a state rail inspector and I repaired small issues he found while inspecting the rail we had worked on.. It was a gas powered rail cart and it was SO cool! I have always wanted to go rail riding.! I know of an about 4 mile stretch of rail that has been abandoned for about 30 years or so (the rail crossings on the highway were paved over around that long ago) so I KNOW it hasn't been used in decades, you have inspired me to try something like this myself! Thank you!
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You should do more of this kind of stuff, we all miss it
I'm working on another rail vehicle right now!
@@saveitforparts>>> *COOL.*
I ordered a Rail Bike kit back in 1976. An attachment for your bicycle to run the rails. A motor is much smarter!!!!
You’ve got gobs of gumption my friend! I mean you really stick with a task and get it done, come hell or high water. Bravo!
"Box of explored ideas", this is true R and D, mistakes are the (albeit annoying) stepping stones
Many a RUclips video put there with the same project in mind...creativity is a gift we inherited from God ...it is an enjoyable experience to watch yours, keep building!
This is brilliant. It is completely practical, and attainable by anyone who can build.
We used to have abandoned tracks where I lived along time ago. I always thought of doing or attempting to do what you're doing but never did it. I thought of doing it with a ten speed with outriggers and a guide of some sort.
10:47 "This thing may not be fast but at least its ugly" - that level of 80s vibes hit me completely unprepared 🙂
this channel is so amazing. literally a hidden gem, wow.
American ingenuity at its finest. What makes the free-world move forward. Thank you for being an inventor.
You are so under appreciated. You always do interesting and cool stuff.
Just found your channel.. very interesting.. thx for bringing us along for the ride.. take care and keep safe..
Love this kind of hobby expedition engineering! Keep it up
Use #40 chain and #40 sprocket. Bicycle chain won't hold up.
It looked like a motorcycle chain with a bicycle sprocket.
I really enjoy the style of editing of this video. Its like theres fluff, but its not really fluff.
When fixing nuts and bolts, always apply the bolts in from the top washers and nuts to the bottom. Then if the nut losens and you lose the nut the bolt usually stays in place.
Should mount some weed wackers on the front so it'll clear your path as you go 😄
If you cut grass with the rail cart would that make it mow MOW equipment?
My kids are telling me to stop, I'll see myself out.
@@joshuabessire9169 I love it! What if it were also powered by a lawnmower engine...
@@saveitforparts Mow power, mow better?
Coolest thing I've seen in a long time
You can always power it by wind, stick a propellor like on air boats on it, might be a bit noisy of course. but it will be quick, love your video.
Way better than the other version
Really good
Congratulation on your "New" creation. You did very well. Thank you for sharing.
"Park cops couldn't think of anything illegal about this" Technically not trespassing because it's not owned by anybody, And you're not doing any harm in anyway, I think this is every person that loves trains is their dream
Showing all fails is legitimate learning...this is how to get education while having fun!
I guess the more fun and more scary doesn't come until you can get your hands on one of those electric motorcycle powertrain parts. Got to push well into the KW territory with a 96v lithium battery brick.
Thank you for bringing us this very interesting and informative video presentation which is very much appreciated by the people.
You could go vertical a bit before the platform to give some clearance. Nice vid, very entertaining.
You sir, are a genius Wil-e-Coyote level....and that's high praise! Your "sticktoitiveness" is inspiring! You earned my sub!
"this thing ist not fast but at least its ugly" sentence of the year
That Yardworks mower must be hella old. They're still using a metal frame and Anderson connectors on the battery terminals, looks like a professional cobble-job with whatever parts they had laying around.
Dude you could build it into a mini
camper and go on tour.
Love the "New! Try me!" sticker haha
if you build your own track, line the iron/steel tracks with copper, and put linear alternating magnets on the car alongside with wheels/skates, it will float while moving but land/stick down when not moving
I guess you could just use linear permanent ac magnet skates on normal train tracks, to levitate
Axman is the best - I thought I recognized those wheels from somewhere!
"May not be fast, but at least its ugly !" 😂 im totally stealing that line !
You'll never get that 11 minutes and 30 seconds of your life back. But well you got a lesson in determination?
Electric or gas wead whacker anchored on edge of frame to trim overgrowth.
Another Cool Build
Hello! Rail carts look fun and I might make a full body of a locomotive diesel of a SP have a good day!
Nice video, but in order to get the self centering to work properly, the wheels need to be on a solid axle. The taper on the wheels has to be the small end out, this way the taper causes the wheel on the outside of the curve to increase in diameter and the inside wheel to get smaller ( just like rolling a cone ) The flanges on railroad wheels are not there to keep the wheel on the rail ( although they will contact the rail occasionally )
Mine cart wheels welded on a metal bar. Centred with circlips and a chain sprocket welded on.
The back wheels need to be connected to a single axle so they cannot turn independently. The front wheels also need to be done the same way. All the wheels need a taper with the small side to the outside. If you get a chance, look at a real train axle and you’ll see what I mean.
Either connect the opposite wheels on a single axle OR, each wheel can have its own motor and electronically controlled like an all-wheel-drive system which is overkill here but possible.
@@Pgr-pt5epYou don't want both sides to be mechanically independent. Both wheels being forced to rotate at the same speed is what steers trains.
@@pootispiker2866 I know that, and that what I said. The only alternative is electronic control.
In some countries they use something similar but bigger on active tracks. Theyre powered by a small gas motor. They easily stop and can be disassembled by the passengers in about 15-20 seconds to avoid oncoming trains.
At least that has a DC motor so you can add a directions switch and go in either direction with it. 😃
This is a fun video. I think it's worth mentioning that the spec for the flange is only like 1.5" betond the wheel running surface. More than that and you're gonna contact all kinds of stuff. You see it in the video. I can tell you at speed that's gonna do some damage and probably derail you.
Yep, mine runs into the rail connecting plates a lot. I have another rail vehicle I'm still working on with better wheels.
good start
These really look fascinating. In Australia, I don't think we have any abandoned railways here.
We dont have any here either, we just have people willing to flaunt the rules and use property to which they have no legal rights of access.
Exellent work
I give you a lot of credit for not giving up. But you need a gas engine for more power. Nice video.
Well, you cannot say this guy is lacking in tenacity.
Very nice channel. I wanted to try stuff like that for years. Sadly I don't have any opportunity to do so.
A youtuber called Kreosan built a draisine to ride on a long railroad. He used 36v wheels from those "hoverboards" that were common some years ago. Maybe that is something you could try too.
I think I've seen one or two of his videos. I'll have to watch for those hoverboards at garage sales!
Sweet Rig .
"Box Of Shame" LOL Enjoy your active and creative mind: not only that but you can use tools.
I'm starting to look at making an enclosed rail cart with a bunk bed and small stove setup for long travel (100 miles+ out west). What tips would you give someone?
You had me at "abandoned tracks" Yay!! Noooooo, poor ladybugs :( 🐞🎲
this channel is quality and so are you
Unfortunately Black & Decker electric mowers are built the same way. Grass builds up in the cavity around the electric motor and you need a Torx driver to remove the top for cleaning.
Great video 👍
You should see my boxes of 'failed ideas'. I can relate as one intrepid tinker to another.
Maybe put some "chain saw teeth weed wacker wheels" on da inside, & outside to cut da grass & weeds as you go! Still an awesome "rail cart"!! 🤔😯👍
It's actually very cool.
7:22 clear indicator that you've worked around small engines before 🤣. Pretty sure that's also the OSHA standard hand signal for break-time.
what a fun video! You did a great job, with a ton of laughs along the way!
if you look for them, you can find the actual iron railroad wheels from speeder cars about10 inch in diameter for about 30 dollars a piece. We used them on simple iron bars for axles with hardware store pillow block bearings bolted onto a simple wooden frame held together with thumbscrew bolts. It could be assembled and disassembled in 5 minutes and thrown in the trunk of a car. We just sat on the back and kicked with our feet and went about 15mph. Almost any motor or engine of 1 kilowat or bigger should work.
I have a few hi-rail wheels I found on Craigslist, I just need to find an axle that fits them. I also have some railriders.net wheels that should be showing up in a video soon!
I give you a thumbs up for efforts...
if you havnt by now. invest in a MIG welder .. welding is fairly simple and will make it much easier to make random parts fit
I have an old tombstone welder someone gave me, I haven't had time to learn to use it yet.
Really should have kept the belt drive. I would have ditched the sprocket on the motor and replaced with a shaft pulley. I would incorporate a engine drive belt tensioner into your build. You can increase your belt a lot by using a much larger pulley on the drive wheel.
Very cool! Liking it! Nice work!
"This thing may not be fast but at least it's ugly!" LOL
My Toyota 4 runner, 276000 and runs like a champ
@stevenboyd593 Who asked?
Mass produced Guerrilla Trains 🚂 can be a menace FOR society.
What if you added a razor-sharp cutter in front of the 2 front wheels so it would cut the brush before your cart got to it?
Already been tried ruclips.net/video/vh_R8AkkU50/видео.html
Not only is this a great concept and a fun building process to watch, you put some great shots in there like the ones at 6:04 and 9:15, too! Excellent stuff.
good work
Good job !! 🍺 😎 👍
I really love the use bigger wheels as flanges for the smaller wheels idea. I thought you were going to be able o drive it to the tracks like that but then there is the question about steering. I guess if you put a drop down/removeable steering wheel of a children's bike then you should be able to use it on pavement and tracks!
Maybe I could make something more like a real Go-Kart with lockable wheels? Might be a future project.
Yes, the bigger wheels as a flange is the key to driving around your neighborhood, now introduce a steering system. Great video
Great job mate. It looks like its working well, although I think your wheel flanges are riding up onto the fishplates
They are, I need to make the main wheel diameter bigger (can't easily cut these flanges down).
That was a okay rail cart
"It´s not fast but it´s ugly" is probably reaction for first test rides of british Pacers and Czechoslovakian M 152.0
Cool idea😊 have you tried to run the go-cart in an s-curve or any curve to see if the wheels work fine in this situation? Greatings Dom
It works OK on curves, although the wheels aren't quite railroad spec and do have a lot of friction. I'm working on something better :-)
Where does this man get his parts
I've got a video about that! It's a combination of hoarding, dumpster diving, garage sales, surplus stores, etc. ruclips.net/video/GSNbTmkaKA4/видео.html
This is awesome
Ooh, this looks fun to make, too bad I don't know where any abandoned railroads are
There are some websites and Facebook groups that have a lot of them!
For future projects, used hoverboard motors are great for general propulsion; cheap, compact, torquey and you can use an off the shelf e-bike controller
My dude, you rock!!!
Very cool. I like your style. 😊👍👍
I love AxMan. My dad and I used to go there all the time
I’m going to subscribe, I’ve only ever seen this one video from you, but I feel like you deserve it
I have other railroad stuff, and more rail projects coming up!
The side plates to keep the wheels on the tracks, do they tun into interference at where track comes to road crossings since there seems to be very little clearance at most. It also seems that the side plates create a lot of drag. Wondering why spring loaded wheels on their own frame set at 30 degrees to the rail. They would only need to touch the top 3/8- 1/2" of the rail.
There are designs that use side wheels and stuff, but my idea was to make this more like a real train. I figured that would go through switches better. The road crossings are an issue because they're either paved over or full of gravel.
Try using a rubber wheels horizontally on the inside to track it. Put one by each wheel. Also I’d suggest runners that electrical motor on a reducer and run a shaft to drive both wheels.
YES, looks awesome! Next one will need a diesel for power.
I knew this guy was Alaskan. Its the Xtratuff life.. Sitka sneaker...
Just come across this channel, seen a few of these rail carts other people have built, but they use petrol engines, batteries will drain in no time. Having said that, I did laugh at your attempts with all the different motors.😄
Solar panel on the roof.
You should put a treadmill motor on that thing
me when the house music starts in the build montages: 🕺🕺🕺
Used brake rotors from trucks make great starts for rail wheels
For wheels you could use Disc Brake Rotors
What about an old 2 stroke enduro or something? Simple engine plus you’d bet a chain drive and tensioner along with it. You could even add a disc brake off of it (if necessary).
I'll have to keep an eye out for something like that!
Just use a Harbor Freight 3 horse gas motor, saves a LOT of trouble.
What is THAT honey?
That's Ghost Rider of the Rails.
Looks good to me!