Fuji XH2s vs Canon C70 Cinema Cam Battle!

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  • Опубликовано: 22 янв 2025

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  • @cameraconspiracies
    @cameraconspiracies  Месяц назад +3

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  • @LTPottenger
    @LTPottenger Месяц назад +49

    Light looks more natural on the fooj. Overall video quality has gotten very good on the channel over time

    • @Adreno23421
      @Adreno23421 Месяц назад +1

      Love your vids!

    • @LTPottenger
      @LTPottenger Месяц назад

      @@Adreno23421 Thank you so much!

  • @IlyaPodnebesmiy
    @IlyaPodnebesmiy Месяц назад +15

    It's strange that no one has yet thought of such a video and such a comparison. After all, this is literally the best video theme in 2024

  • @Mr7Poz
    @Mr7Poz Месяц назад +30

    Once you get over the AF, you realize that the XH2 and XH2S are incredible cameras.

    • @cosmodoeseverything
      @cosmodoeseverything Месяц назад +1

      Yeah...IF you get over the AF 🫠🫠🫠🫠

    • @Mr7Poz
      @Mr7Poz Месяц назад

      @@cosmodoeseverything For private not commercial use, I should add.

    • @matrixist
      @matrixist 4 дня назад

      Every great movie ever made was with manual focus. ​@@Mr7Poz

  • @AdventuresinNature
    @AdventuresinNature Месяц назад +28

    Would love to see what you think of the new F-Log2C!

  • @RandumbTech
    @RandumbTech Месяц назад +25

    Philip was right - FLOG looks WAAAAY better than FLOG2. Much more natural. Peck for the win!

  • @smashingfables6307
    @smashingfables6307 Месяц назад +9

    The C70 looked amazing at the very end. I can see the dynamic range boost. It would be great to see it compared to the Z6iii and the ZV-E1. The Fuji looks good too.

  • @Ben-cx8de
    @Ben-cx8de Месяц назад +3

    The c70, speedbooster and the EF 24-105mm F4 II is superb for event/documentary work.

  • @MGriffin2501
    @MGriffin2501 Месяц назад +10

    So happy that you chose to use the Fuji 16mm / 1.4f for this video - just picked one up for my Fuji X-S10. 👌

  • @FeranoWibisono
    @FeranoWibisono Месяц назад +5

    To reduce oversharpening on the Fujifilm X-H2S, you can use the ‘Soften and Sharpen’ effect in DaVinci Resolve with the following settings:
    • Small Texture: -0.300
    • Adjust Small Texture Granularity: 0.150
    These settings can make skin appear smoother and reduce noise, creating a look similar to a Blackmagic camera.

    • @shueibdahir
      @shueibdahir Месяц назад

      This is definetly going to be a massive hit on gpu performance. That plugin is really inefficient

  • @juliancroot
    @juliancroot Месяц назад +8

    I always replace the speedbooster on the C70 with a blank adapter when outdoors in the daytime to avoid the dreaded purple blob!
    Did you know you can set the custom buttons on the C70 quickly by holding the menu button and custom button down for more than 1 second? I'd owned the camera for more than 18 months before I learned that.
    To set exposure on your face perfectly on the C70 in CLOG2, set the waveform monitor to the option that says '+spot' in the setup menu... which will make a portion of it turn red and therefore easier to see what you're exposing for. Then hold a grey card in the red section (where your face would be) and adjust exposure until it reads a tiny fraction under 40 IRE on the waveform. It works every single time.
    The false colour is nice so see what's blown out, but its not accurate enough to get perfect exposure on skin.
    You could also set zebras to 40%, but sometimes they trigger too early. The waveform +spot option and a grey card gets it dialled in perfectly.

    • @fillblood3075
      @fillblood3075 Месяц назад

      Hi, I heard that this camera can take dng 12 bit photos. I'm thinking of getting this rig for video work, but to be able to take photos for myself sometimes. Have you tried its photo capabilities?

    • @juliancroot
      @juliancroot Месяц назад

      @fillblood3075 C70 does not take stills, it's a cinema camera.

    • @fillblood3075
      @fillblood3075 Месяц назад

      @@juliancroot In the settings you can assign a button for photo, in case you need it 😅

    • @juliancroot
      @juliancroot Месяц назад

      @fillblood3075 it's effectively just a screen shot.

  • @MarkD3P
    @MarkD3P Месяц назад +6

    I LOVE THIS. I shoot Canon for work but occasionally use my Fuji XH2S on those jobs - and yes, Flog 2 and Clog 2 are interchangeable. I shoot live theater Multicam production and sometimes use the XH2S as a 5th or 6th camera in 6K to cover the entire stage. The only difference is the Fuji is a lot sharper and higher resolution. The DGO sensor in the C70 makes it my favorite camera of all time though - Arri Alexas, the C300 MKIII and the C70 are the only DGO sensors on the market as far as I know.

    • @shridexdigi1982
      @shridexdigi1982 Месяц назад +1

      I don't get comparisons like this. First of all there is a speedbooster on the C70. He is shooting raw and even with the release of F-log 2C he didn't use it

    • @shueibdahir
      @shueibdahir Месяц назад

      You can add the original BMPCC, Ursa 4.6K G2 and BMCC 2.5K to that list

  • @MrJayclas
    @MrJayclas Месяц назад +3

    So thankful for your channel! Plus my lady heard you say something and totally cracked up. I told her “this guy is a true comedian”!
    She wasn’t ready🤣🤣🤣

  • @lennutrajektoor
    @lennutrajektoor Месяц назад +15

    Sharpened image gave H2S right away.

  • @Kxng5Jeevy
    @Kxng5Jeevy Месяц назад +6

    The Canon just looks beautiful, the skin tone is just nice .. Fooj with the brighter colors tho

  • @sjuhav
    @sjuhav Месяц назад +18

    Outdoor I find the Fuji more pleasing to watch

  • @fstarkb
    @fstarkb Месяц назад +1

    Recently I discovered your channel and is hilarious and very informative. Thank you for make me smile and laugh!!

  • @JoseHerrerawl
    @JoseHerrerawl Месяц назад +2

    Thanks Stalker for keeping up with the schedule

  • @Lesderniersbatisseurs
    @Lesderniersbatisseurs Месяц назад +40

    WOOWWW ! fuji look so cinematic , best dynamic range and better color science

  • @cammackey
    @cammackey Месяц назад +13

    And not even giving me a moisturizer 😂

  • @MWB_FoolsParadisePictures
    @MWB_FoolsParadisePictures Месяц назад +4

    As an XH2s owner, I like the C70 shots by the lake better 😭
    I don't like Fuji's sharpness either. Canon wins there, too.
    Canon seemed more like vintage cinema and Fuji seemed more modern, which is a little ironic.
    Maybe a toss up otherwise?

    • @rafael_daguerre
      @rafael_daguerre 19 дней назад

      Yes. In this case, this sharpness also depends on the lens used. You can decrease the sharpness on Fuji in its settings, which decreases it as well.

    • @MWB_FoolsParadisePictures
      @MWB_FoolsParadisePictures 18 дней назад +1

      @ It definitely depends on the lens. When I shoot my own stuff, I turn Fuji's sharpness all the way down to its lowest possible setting, but I still don't always like how sharp it looks compared to most cinema cameras. Still a beautiful image, just something I've noticed about the XH2s.

  • @hhankx
    @hhankx Месяц назад

    I have been waiting so long for this video

  • @KarlGutowski
    @KarlGutowski Месяц назад +11

    The thing about oversharpened images is that you can always soften them in post. The C70 has a softer contrast in the shadows and neutral color balance with the sky looking proper blue. The Fuji looks like it has a "Vintage film" LUT with the temp turned up a couple hundred K and the tint shifted toward green.

    • @shueibdahir
      @shueibdahir Месяц назад +1

      Nope, that's not true. Good luck getting rid of aliasing and edge enhancement

  • @thebentzenable
    @thebentzenable Месяц назад +4

    I liked the C70 better. But I love a small camera for the pocket 😁

  • @AprilClayton
    @AprilClayton Месяц назад +30

    F-log 1 did look more natural.

  • @paopaniq
    @paopaniq 7 часов назад

    Dude is like a main villain talking aboout cameras sounding like fighting batman. subscribed

  • @UncleTrapperMedia
    @UncleTrapperMedia Месяц назад +1

    This is how i like to start my day with good ol Uncle Kas

  • @petercofrancesco9812
    @petercofrancesco9812 Месяц назад +3

    At least on YT it shocking how similar the image quality is. But also situationally it's strange Flog2 looked too sharp inside but fine outside. But following Philip suggestion Flog1 made it soft and pleasing to the point I couldn't tell the difference.

  • @lennutrajektoor
    @lennutrajektoor Месяц назад +8

    F-log is smooth as Canon C70 footage.

  • @MB-dq2gz
    @MB-dq2gz Месяц назад +3

    The c70 has superior Toneh to a crop, but as you say two separate tools for the job. The fooj is more vlogger friendly with the lighter weight. Which is kinda your thing.

  • @JoaquimGonsalves
    @JoaquimGonsalves Месяц назад +3

    I reckon Casey's love-hate with Fuji is now rivaling that of Ross & Rachel.

  • @TheDesertsweeper
    @TheDesertsweeper Месяц назад +1

    C100M2 vs C70 would have been something to see

  • @mikek9898
    @mikek9898 Месяц назад

    Indeed we learned something today! I’ll pick the Fuji any day of the week.

  • @JediOutcastKatarn
    @JediOutcastKatarn 17 дней назад

    It'd make WAY more sense to do an X-H2S vs C80 video - both 6K, both stacked sensors, one APS-C, one Full Frame....as Palpatine says, DO IT!🔥🔥🔥🔥

  • @povertytaretv
    @povertytaretv 17 дней назад +1

    C70❤

  • @bazdesh
    @bazdesh Месяц назад +3

    one thing i dont know if you ever mentioned in your search for the 3d pops - the speedboster adds extra 5 optical elements, doesnt it technically destroy/skew whatever magical goodness the lenses produce?

    • @tankivulture148
      @tankivulture148 Месяц назад

      Probably not since it's a generic conversion for any lens you put on it. Since it's usually not designed for your specific lens a speed booster has a lot of unpredictable things going on, also, probably somewhat degrades sharpness, especially the corners. It's kinda helping in terms of character.

    • @cameraconspiracies
      @cameraconspiracies  Месяц назад +2

      I talk about this soon. I don't think it does.

    • @bazdesh
      @bazdesh Месяц назад

      @@tankivulture148 yeah, i asked because i stumbled upon an old issue people who shot nikon DSLRs and wanted to adapt old m42 lenses had to endure - the flange distance on the nikons meant you couldnt focus the m42 lenses past like 5-10 meters, so there was a special adapter with optics you could use, but it totally changed the character of the bokeh... i guess modern speedboosters are optically superior to these but still.

    • @jerrybankerman
      @jerrybankerman Месяц назад +1

      Depends on who makes the speed booster and how much color correction is performed by the glass composition used. Microcontrast (3d pop) is from color error based on distance where closer subjects have defined accurate saturation while further subjects have varying degrees of error in contrast (via absorption) and chromatic aboration (angle distortion). A speed booster with glass that has compositions that either correct or accentuate optical transmission will increase or decrease microcontrast from design to design.

  • @Bobsmithabc
    @Bobsmithabc Месяц назад

    Please make a day in your life video about how you are able to crank out so much entertaining content on multiple channels. ⭐️

  • @JohnDrummondPhoto
    @JohnDrummondPhoto Месяц назад +1

    On the whole, I prefer the look of the Fuji except its colors are definitely yellow. You definitely need RF lenses on the C70. The speed booster causes mad flaring.

  • @lewstv1597
    @lewstv1597 Месяц назад +13

    C-log is blue skintone, fuji is realistic and cinematic looks i prefere fuji and F-log. C70 is so contrasted

    • @mex5341
      @mex5341 Месяц назад +7

      yes ,that's why we choose Canon , Fuji is just more natural and red

  • @Blazerrrrrrrrr
    @Blazerrrrrrrrr Месяц назад +3

    I just recently got an S1H for $950 I should've gotten the C70 to record my cat.

  • @tilmanholzhauer4656
    @tilmanholzhauer4656 Месяц назад

    "I heard a fish flap in the water." 😂 godly!

  • @Digitalfiendscom
    @Digitalfiendscom Месяц назад +1

    Damn the C70's AF was having a fit near the end of the video. 😅

  • @Edson-Ragas
    @Edson-Ragas Месяц назад +56

    if only Fuji has that Sony AF, everybody would be using Fuji

    • @denis5850
      @denis5850 Месяц назад +8

      No

    • @PatrickWithCamera
      @PatrickWithCamera Месяц назад +5

      Agree, I'm sony user and AF is the only thing keeping me away from fuji.

    • @aniruddhadeshpandestudio2891
      @aniruddhadeshpandestudio2891 Месяц назад +9

      If only Sony had Fuji colors and stacked sensor everyone will be using Sony.

    • @denis5850
      @denis5850 Месяц назад +1

      @@PatrickWithCamera why would you go on Fuji
      you loose full frame. Much better dynamic,much better iso performance. A lot more lens compared to Fuji.

    • @nicedward7544
      @nicedward7544 Месяц назад

      Maybe on a gfx50... They can keep the apsc over there. Maybe for video only

  • @fafa-k4x
    @fafa-k4x Месяц назад

    How do I get in touch with you re: Canon R10

  • @dct124
    @dct124 Месяц назад

    You can describe the color of the shirt online by giving us the color code. But you'd also need to measure the Lv of the room.

  • @adinbradic7092
    @adinbradic7092 Месяц назад

    timeline of recording and publishing videos might be messed up. this could be recorded before flog 2c update

  • @guyjordan8201
    @guyjordan8201 Месяц назад +1

    No winter 🥶to be seen… where in the world are you Caseyandiego?

  • @Adogcallednoortje
    @Adogcallednoortje Месяц назад

    I love going OOtside with you!

  • @alienwisconsin
    @alienwisconsin Месяц назад +1

    I own both, and I prefer the C70 so much I bought a second.

  • @DiversionScience
    @DiversionScience Месяц назад +1

    I can't believe I'm saying this but the Fuji colors looked best in most shots. In some of the shots I preferred the C70 though. Fuji skin colors are a bit off sometimes but so are Canon's, I think the C70 white balance was off in most shots. Nikon colors look the best in your videos but the Z6III may not have enough dynamic range for some of the back-lit blue sky scenes.
    I also realize I'm giving you justification to keep all of them.😄 You're welcome.

  • @gcadiz
    @gcadiz Месяц назад

    have you tried EF lenses on the fuji? Maybe that’s another layer of POP and helps with the uber sharpness of flog

  • @Kristianpont
    @Kristianpont Месяц назад

    Rare sight of indoor 3D pop is happening on the Fuji

  • @50shadesofNV
    @50shadesofNV Месяц назад

    how come you havent tried Flog C ?

  • @herbertmasing
    @herbertmasing Месяц назад +1

    I prefered the Canon in the blind test. Not knowing anything about Canon cameras I supposed it was the cheaper alternative to Fuji.

  • @colmstanley5983
    @colmstanley5983 Месяц назад +7

    Just my opinion but the Nikon Z6 III footage you took where you were by the shore was streets ahead of everything else, pure cinema.

  • @justenn9949
    @justenn9949 Месяц назад

    Flog 1 looks much better than 2. I think it’s more about getting a better rec709 lut conversion for the Fuji’s. Kind of like how the Nikon zf colors got a lot better once they got a hold of the Red Luts. For the money the Fuji can get the same image as the c70 but it’d take some tweaking. Which is not something everyone wants to do. I have friends that will apply the black magic luts to Sony footage and it works well. Maybe get wonky and give those or other combinations a try.

  • @DavidODonnell2
    @DavidODonnell2 Месяц назад

    So, what we learned is go with R5 mk2?

  • @spencerl885
    @spencerl885 Месяц назад

    Kasey It would be awesome if you could atleast store skin tone and image compare the C70 to the R5 Mk2. The ideal is outdoor testing but hey anything would be great.

  • @MrMoviePhoneEx
    @MrMoviePhoneEx Месяц назад +1

    The c70 is wwwaaayyy more reliable over the Fuji though. Active fan cooling - hot, cold, wet, doesn’t matter. And you can shoot both 10 and 12bit 60 all day with zero overheating. I moved from a xt4 to a c70 for that very reason several year back.

  • @quite1enough
    @quite1enough Месяц назад +3

    damn, Fuji
    you break my heart...

  • @tonehtheories
    @tonehtheories Месяц назад +3

    C70 orange looks nicer

  • @hukl3945
    @hukl3945 Месяц назад +1

    I

  • @adnan_velic
    @adnan_velic Месяц назад +1

    The Fuji looked way better when you were vlogging.

  • @dianaa8125
    @dianaa8125 Месяц назад

    i liked the black better on the fuji in sunlight

  • @JASONJAMESMARTIN
    @JASONJAMESMARTIN Месяц назад +1

    I feel like my flog2 is not as sharp in my xs-20. Also the 240p looks way better on xs-20 for some reason. Way less noise.

  • @thatevanguy1480
    @thatevanguy1480 Месяц назад +1

    great video.

  • @remektekmedia6641
    @remektekmedia6641 Месяц назад +1

    Fuji X-H2S looks WAY nicer. It is NOT too sharp, just true to life. If it bothers you than use a mist filter (I would NEVER do that though!).

  • @weisphotofilm869
    @weisphotofilm869 Месяц назад

    I run with the C70 only because of that center 3/8 plate screw. It's so PRO... 😉

  • @77dris
    @77dris Месяц назад +3

    The Canon is more "cinematic" for sure. The Fooj looks "cheap" by comparison, as you'd expect from a mirrorless camera... too sharp.

  • @Weddingsbyavishek
    @Weddingsbyavishek Месяц назад

    Hey Casey, so if you want flog 2 to be a bit softer try a 1/8 most filter or just pull down mid detail slightly in Davinci. That’s what I usually do.

  • @ShadesOClarity
    @ShadesOClarity Месяц назад +6

    Wow. The F00ge looks really good. In fact, they both look great and the F00ge isn't really distinguishable from the Canon. I don't mind the sharpening.

  • @richaneesh
    @richaneesh Месяц назад

    I'm a long time subscriber and catching up from 1 year almost. Did you buy the XH2S again or you did not sell it back then and locked it up

  • @TLOverlander
    @TLOverlander Месяц назад

    The fuji has a half-baked in Fuji Eterna film look... Which is kinda nice, but.....

  • @stevenjohnson4283
    @stevenjohnson4283 Месяц назад

    Well, you've been there before, up the cul-de-sac of Fujifilm and Canon, and I wonder what you're doing there again, and not with cheaper gear but some very expensive stuff. I await your OM systems, Panasonic and Pentax video camera reviews. I think maybe a Leica SL and for real Leica prime in L-mount should be the next camera to test.

  • @jonathanscherer8567
    @jonathanscherer8567 Месяц назад

    I like the colors of the Canon, but the price point isn't practical for most people. The learning curve also seems to make it less useful unless you can really invest time into the system.

  • @sirconrads
    @sirconrads Месяц назад

    So for less then half the money you get a comparable or better system. Giving you room to ad 3 f1.x lenses. Ok I think that makes things easy. Maybe compare it next to the S5iix and see how that compares. Great baked in Luts + better stab. Try that for a video.

  • @alexsece
    @alexsece Месяц назад

    What do you think about Fuji x-m5?

  • @milunacodes
    @milunacodes Месяц назад +1

    I feel the C70 to be the better camera overall but it is too expensive. As you said, I think the R5 II is the better alternative to both

  • @1StepTooFar
    @1StepTooFar Месяц назад

    What’s the best hybrid camera from Canon?

  • @PixPete
    @PixPete Месяц назад +12

    This surprised me. The Fuji was just better in every way, especially colours but your skin tones are finally on point! That new FLog2C should be better than 2 though.

  • @craigbaker6382
    @craigbaker6382 Месяц назад +1

    No signature "subscribe curtsey" = NO LIKE FROM ME!! But honestly thanks for making me feel right about the Fuji (XS-20) choice I made. It is a different sensor so I'm curious of the f-log2 sharpness thing is similar on my XS-20.

  • @LM42
    @LM42 Месяц назад

    Am a canon "fan" but that fuji , looks amazing!

  • @JoseHerrerawl
    @JoseHerrerawl Месяц назад

    Isnt there a new F-Log out?

  • @justsomeframes
    @justsomeframes Месяц назад

    i would like to see only a color space transformation when shooting in log, cuz then we can see the true differences, idk how u transform ur log footage to rec709 but in ur old vids u showed us that u do a light grading.

    • @cameraconspiracies
      @cameraconspiracies  Месяц назад +1

      It's Canon's official LUT vs Fuji's official LUT.

    • @justsomeframes
      @justsomeframes Месяц назад +1

      @@cameraconspiracies In this case canon is the winner for me, softer skins and better overall look, thank you for the review.

  • @FitaProductions
    @FitaProductions Месяц назад +1

    maybe fuji xh2s is better now with FLOG2C not just in FLOG2

  • @Adreno23421
    @Adreno23421 Месяц назад

    9:22 holy shit the Canon obliterates the fuji on that dinamic range. But I got to admit I was impressed how well Fuji holds their own. However I do prefer the colors on the canon a lot more, it just feels more "normal"? Natural? Realistic? It convinces me more it seems. As you put it in the end of the video, the Canon skin tones are superb. I would have to see the color of your backpack IRL to judge which color is better, though.

  • @slowpoke7046
    @slowpoke7046 Месяц назад

    try white balance shift R -2 or R -1 on fuji

  • @scotthime6928
    @scotthime6928 Месяц назад +2

    Well the C70 is Netflix approved and the XH2x isn't, so if you're making Netflix footage there is a clear winner regardless of the video comparison. If you're vlogging, there is a clear winner because you're not going to vlog with a kitted out C70. I think the big point here is that the XH2s looks pretty good for just about any use you'll likely be putting it to.

    • @adinbradic7092
      @adinbradic7092 Месяц назад

      none of us is making netflix content :D

    • @scotthime6928
      @scotthime6928 Месяц назад

      @@adinbradic7092 My point exactly. Both are sufficiently good for anything we're likely to be doing. But one is suitable for vlogging.

  • @joseperalta6235
    @joseperalta6235 Месяц назад +1

    so, all those "Hey, VSause here" from Michael were just autofocus tests

  • @eugeneBai
    @eugeneBai Месяц назад +2

    Canon gives us cinema! Thx Canon

  • @BlackapinoTheTechGuy
    @BlackapinoTheTechGuy Месяц назад

    *I noticed the Canon was focus hunting for a brief min at the End of the Video*

    • @adhi_atma
      @adhi_atma Месяц назад

      yeah when he turn around and canon cant see the face . cause c70 using older algorithm compared to newer C80. and also it well known that C70 can't focus well underexposed

  • @LIGHTHUNTER.D
    @LIGHTHUNTER.D Месяц назад

    C70 with the shadows down slightly would probably mog the Fuji

  • @johndoane7200
    @johndoane7200 Месяц назад

    F log 2c… ?
    You always wear a life preserver?

  • @dccoletrain
    @dccoletrain Месяц назад

    They’re both fantastic and overkill for me… I would like a firmware for my X-S20 & X100VI though…

  • @Lance_MadCat
    @Lance_MadCat Месяц назад +1

    Aye caramba!

  • @dct124
    @dct124 Месяц назад

    Overall I like the Fuji better, but I'm assuming the Canon allows more post processing. I'd buy the Fuji unless I'm shooting a movie with sfx. Which I'm not ever 😅
    If turnaround time is important, Fuji wins.

  • @Windsurfingaddict
    @Windsurfingaddict Месяц назад

    I like the canon here considering the sensor size is only 8.85MP sensor, Fuji is not bad 🥳🥳🥳

  • @hermanosfotografos
    @hermanosfotografos Месяц назад

    Skin tones looks so similar. Fuji looks kinda better. Think it has more DR, judging by the lamp..

  • @renatobfa
    @renatobfa Месяц назад +2

    2:30 much better FLOG

  • @donaldbate3017
    @donaldbate3017 Месяц назад

    Woah.. what happened to Fuji's rendering of blue in that last scene?!? Canon's sky looks natural.. Fuji's sky looks drab! White balance setting error??

    • @cameraconspiracies
      @cameraconspiracies  Месяц назад

      No settings changed outside, that was all 1 clip with 5600k on both.