HOW is Tivit, Seller of Secrets tearing up cEDH tournaments??
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"...proving that a 6 mana commander can be competitive..."
Godo: Am I a joke to you?
yes
Both make good points. Godo really does see play, but yeah Godo is a bit of a joke. A cEDH player has to laugh when sees someone pulls out Godo to the table.
Nah, GBW still gets the job done ;)
@@gtoast_99 some years ago his winrate at cedh was around 25% so he saw play, but today he wouldn't win 20% of the time. Other decks have too much answers and/or are faster.
Godo is funny because he just makes the bar of being in cEDH and just barely and he is cheap to build around, like the cheapest maybe
@@RobMedellin I win plenty so *shrug*. You can't just jam it, you have to know how to play. But it does just fine.
I am a gitrog player, and legit I was struggling to keep up with the meta until orcish bowmasters dropped and also I added a backup 2 card wincon which most gitrog pilots won't even consider.
Two card wincon in Golgari? My my I wonder what it could be
@@Ashes_to_Ashes200Pls, I need answers!
@@karl-erikvik3400 Witherbloom Apprentice and Chain of Smog
@@karl-erikvik3400chain of smog / Witherbloom apprentice?
Niv mizzet isn't happy with the 6 mana diss
Guess he’ll really be mad with his 10% play rate
@@SCP2264-5 all things considered thats nowhere near bad
You said attack when the card says deal damage, those are very different things in this game
Esper colors and tivit being the only creature that matters equals board wipe tribal backed by counter magic. Tivit connects when hes sideways.
@dennisjameson6492 the card says when it does combat damage to a player, so it turning sideways doesn't mean you get the trigger for allot of reasons. The creature can be blocked by a creature, no trigger. The damage can be prevented, resulting in no trigger. The creature can be removed from combat in a various amount of ways before the damage step, resulting in no trigger. And to be petty, they could be given vigilance so they would never turn sideways.
However; things can secure your trigger like menace, trample, protection from appropriate cards(creatures in general or appropriate colors) flying, horsemanship, fear, intimate and so on.
Extra triggers can be gained in one turn with double strike as it is two separate instants of damage or if you can pull it off, extra combats
P.s. this game is complicated af and really specific and literal
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@@bobnewheart1307it’s still a good card even though he got the wording wrong and if you don’t think so the you have no place in this argument
I would love to see a spotlight on my boy grist, its definitly the best hulk commander in my experiance playing hulk by how consistant natural order lines are in the deck.
Note: after you kill a player, you need an extra artifact per turn to keep this running, as you will only produce 4 tokens
you'll have 5 extra from the ETB, enough to get you there
@@CommanderMechanic you’ll be using them immediately, since it doesnt have haste, and since they can very clearly see you have tivit in your command zone, they’ll keep some removal ready the instant you get enough mana to start the combo, so you’ll need to start the combo the instant tivit hits the field
@@CommanderMechanicYou definitely can't count on the first turn's tokens because you need those to immediately take an extra turn instead of hoping both Tivit and the Sieve stick around for a whole cycle.
It doesn't really matter, since you only need to sacrifice two extra artifacts plus the Time Sieve itself to kill everyone if you attack correctly, and you have a dozen draw steps to find them if you don't already have any mana rocks or hate pieces sitting around, but you're almost never counting on only the tokens from Tivit's vote to get you all the way.
@@wingdinggaster6737or run grand abolisher, but that’s from a high powered, but not cEDH perspective.
Academy Manufacturer solves that problem 😂
Muldroga. My favorite MTG RUclipsr fears her.
I'd love if my Locust God Deck could bust through the hump with the Sage of the Falls Combo that is tutorable with Imperial Recruiter but it just doesn't seem to get there most of the time as straight UR can't really compete without Niv-Mizzet's in built draw engine.
I would LOVE liesa shroud of dusk to see Cedh play. I have a high power version of the deck and as a joke decided to play her against my friends Cedh decks and I won, decided to do it again later on and also won again. I think she functions sort of like a rule of law in the command zone. Sure you can cast spells, but if someone stops you and you aren’t able to win right away then you’re so burnt out from liesas ability that it’s easy to just die from her 5/5 body. Not to mention she combats a big issue with high cost commanders that is an even higher commander tax when killed. Liesa just says nah I’ll pay a couple life and she will come right back out. It’s very much a win right now or else when playing against her because she’s hard to keep off the board and will subtly drain you more than you realize
yeah, he's pretty brutal in normal edh too. Like, my manabase is too slow for CEDH, but it is nice to have a deck for spicy tables finally.
With how prevalent Tivit and other token strategies are, it's probably worth it to maindeck a couple of token-hosing cards like Leyline of Singularity.
Collector Ouphe stock goes up
I actually did this combo with my tivit deck my friends were shocked and all conceded
I wann see Etali primal conquerer :D
Id love to see Uuna; Blue black Farie mill exile queen ,💙🖤💙🖤💙🖤💙🖤💙🖤💙
💀💧💀💧💀💧💀💧
My boy Nev and his destruction disk ❤
I'm taking pantlaziah out atm trying to push him.
I support this endeavor
@CommanderMechanic thank you. It's tough sitting down at the table and not having blue counter play or black draw.
Is this how baleful strix becomes a cedh staple?
My personal favorite is Tatyova, Benthic Druid. [Landfall -- draw a card gain 1 life] is an absolute scam when it comes to card draw, considering most people are *paying* one mana to get one card. It's literally the perfect fusion of green and blue, and I love it. It's five mana, but you're playing green so it might as well be free.
She also pairs really well with Cultivator Colossus and Azusa, Lost but Seeking. Colossus for a very explosive, game-winning turn and Azusa for more reliable 3 landfall trigger turns.
Krrirk is laughing
Miirym sentinel wyrm
The thing i dont understand is how do they manage to resolve it? I have an optimized unesh build that wins most of the time (have yet to play it in a full cedh pod), a lot of fast artifact mana to get it out and all the usual free/nearly free counter spells, but it is relatively often countered. And when a 6 mana commander is countered, it hurts. Especially if you cracked jeweled lotus or tapped mana crypt for it
most competitive decks don't run counterspells that hit creatures.
@@CommanderMechanic well theres force of will and pact of negation
And dovins vito at times
@@halvsketchy9293too few of those Nagatoro. Also, if the Tivit player feels the sussy aura, he can wait for 1 more mana in order to counter the rare creature counter. It's not failproof, but consistent enough.
It's not on attack it's a deal combat trigger.
Eloise, Nephalia Sleuth!
NIV MIZZET, PARUN 🙌
Ovika for sure
It's not "attack" it's "deals combat damage."
Etali and atraxa
This is nutty lmao
It's ability triggers on combat damage, not attacks
Me playing jhoira
Velomachus Lorehold
It may “cost” 6 but your instantly giving yourself 2 treasure so it’s really a 4 cost
you aren't spending those treasures on mana you're spending them on time sieve
First Sliver, only 5 Mana but all Colors
First Sliver Food Chain!
Muldrotha
I wanna see Gishath, Skytherix, and Progenitus
Scarab god
Phylath
Atraxa
Gishath
Ok, but when you remove a player, he's only making 4 now....
Vilis. Nuff said.
5 artifacts per turn??? Am i missing something here? If this is a 1v1 game, wouldn't his ETB or damage trigger only generate 3 artifacts?
This is not a 1v1 game it is 4-player
Ahh, my mistake. My group only plays commander and has for so long I completely forgot it was specifically a multiplayer format. We play 1v1 commander games all the time. Lots of fun. @@CommanderMechanic
There’s no way this beats my Omnath deck.
lol
There’s nothing competitive about CEDH. Everyone uses the same like 10 or 15 commanders, and the same dam instant win combos. It’s modern as a 100 card singleton format. Y’all want a real competitive CEDH format???…….ban all the key components to those stupid instant win combos. That’s real competition.
I think you’re missing the fact there are legit for prizing competitions, which makes it competitive in the truest sense
@@CommanderMechanic no it doesn’t, it makes it a rush to who can get to their instant win con first. That’s not a competition, that’s a race. You wanna race, go run a marathon. A true competitive battle is who can fight for their win the best.
Myrriam
Just to let you know, the word is pronounced “Siv” as in Time Siv not “seeve”
@@jamesmackes4531 Im pretty positive they are not, this isnt a tomAto tomotto type deal, the word is Siv.
@@dominickdavila1836 both are correct anyone should know what you mean, ergo while not technically "correct" it is colloquially understood. And that's what language is, what everyone agrees on, not merely a tool for those who want to act smarter than others.
@@jamesmackes4531 no one is “acting smarter”, someone is trying to help someone else not look like they dont know how to say a word correctly. Just because we would all know someone thinks they are saying an item cant burn, but they say non-flammable, wouldnt make it ok to say and we should let them know… same situation
@@jamesmackes4531 non-flammable things still burn, they just dont ignite. You would tell someone under the impression that they have something that wont burn that they are wrong before they lose something important.