Reacting to Half As Interesting
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- Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024
- Half As Interesting made a video about Toki Pona, so let's see how they did.
The Original Video I'm reacting to:
• Toki Pona: The Languag...
Man learns Icelandic in a week:
• Video
Non-euclidian geometry explained in Toki Pona:
• nasin pi sitelen ma pi...
Special relativity explained in Toki Pona:
davidar.github...
Contract of sale in Toki Pona:
www.jonathanga...
RObot Interaction LAnguage:
roila.org/
Native Toki Pona speakers:
• INTERVIEW | The First ...
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"unless you have a pint of Guinness in your hand, they are going to assume it's coffee" 😂
I think the fact that, if you aren't a polyglot already, it takes maybe half a year to be completely fluent in toki pona (as was in my case) shows that languages do not "simplify" or that there's a "wrong way to speak." Each language has its own set of rules and functions that make it unique. Whether or not its difficult to learn is completely dependent on your experience with language learning in general.
I acquired ability to speak fluently in 3 months tf?
@@kuruju_vtube kepeken nasin seme?
About the telo wawa li suwi li namako li kule kasi, it took me a long time to realize this is meant to be specifically how you'd order a caramel macchiato. I don't speak the starbucks dialect of english so I can't vouch for the quality of the translation, but it doesn't seem unnecessarily long for a specific drink order.
true, though then again, doesn't it kinda go against tp philosophy to go into such specifics? way i see it, there's no reason i need to know whether you ordered a macchiato or frappuccino - i barely know what these even mean in english, let alone tp!
@@goldenratio_phhia If you're ordering the drink, lots of information might be expected. But describing your morning routine? prolly not
14:58 as someone who occasionally unironically plays minecraft with the official toki pona translation, i wanna push back a little on this specific point Sam was making - no, the game is still fully playable, just not if you don't know the language *and* don't already know most of the game's content - but you'd run into this problem playing ANY game in ANY language you're not proficient in, so i'm not sure what he's getting at there, other than possibly just outright making a jab at the language itself (which i would say is somewhat _jaki_ behavior). I'm definitely not a proficient speaker (I don't even have all the words memorized and still consistently mistake "li" for "is") and there are certainly still plenty of things I don't know about the recent content in the game, and yet, I can still play a world from day 1 to beating the dragon, fully in toki pona, with little if any confusion beyond forgetting that the recipe book search uses the current language setting's names and not internal names (catch me typing "gold_block" to look for a block of gold even in English). In fact, I honestly _recommend_ playing video games in toki pona as a valid method of immersion learning when possible (especially and specifically minecraft) because it's clear from what I've seen that Mojang actually put a LOT of effort into the translation. The only "poorly" translated part (in my opinion) is the names of enchantments, but it's kinda hard to express the concepts of a lot of them when the official names are already often not descriptive - how are you supposed to know "Aqua Affinity" means "you don't get block breaking slowed down by being submerged in water while wearing this" if you don't look it up, lol?
As someone who learned English specifically using Minecraft, mostly because the french font used to be absolutely horrendous and 11 yr old me would rather play in a language he understood only half of than look at linja ike (which apparently was only a bug ? MC-2488 on the bug tracker has an example of what I mean), I think you're absolutely correct. The huge number of items and the fact that you can always find their name *and* translation make the whole game a learning experience similar to flash cards, except that those get a bit boring after ten minutes, while Minecraft has extremely high replayability. It doesn't give you *all* of the keys to a language, but after learning the grammar you're pretty much ready to get into conversations. It's honestly been my favorite way to learn languages.
tbh, what enchantment names would you change if you could and how?
@@jan_Masewin All enchantments should be "wawa nasa", obviously
Actually Mojang put no effort into the translation, it was crowd sourced by the community. That's why it's so good (with a few exceptions, *cough telo kiwen cough*)
If i say "the bathroom is over yander" then it is no more context sensitive than anything in toki pona
Browsing the coffee menu at a Toki Pona-speaking cafe 🤣
1. telo seli
2. telo seli
3. telo seli
4. telo seli
5. telo seli
6. telo seli
a! jan li awen toki tan sitelen tawa "Half As Interesting".
ken la, pakala mute li lon ona, taso ona li pona tan (taso) ni: jan mute sin li alasa e sona pi toki pona tan ona.
mi pilin sama!
5:40 I think nasin nanpa pona as used in su is pretty good (using ale as a positional separator at powers of 100 instead of itself meaning 100), it makes it possible to write any number with an amount of words that's only proportional to that of natural languages. Instead of "ale ale ale... ale ale mute tu tu", you just go "mute ale mute tu tu". It keeps the spirit of toki pona (simplicity), but it's able to do pretty much any math we want, and it's been pretty useful for the introduction to calculus paper I'm currently writing.
In French we say 'manger à sa faim' to complete satiety, except la faim means the opposite.. We talk crap in natural languages, it's just that we're used to it because everybody does it.. 😂
Half as interesting and seems like
He half interesting in toki pona
I like to think that in an ideal world, linguistically speaking, toki pona would be the first language taught to kids as a community/interpersonal language. Then when they start their education, they also learn whatever their national or regional language is, and after that, if you want to travel or work internationally, like in politics or diplomacy or science or such, you learn an IAL (like Esperanto was meant to be) so that way everyone is tri-lingual and everyone has at least toki pona to fall back on, especially since it's a good "starter language" as I like to call it. It is certainly not a "learn-in-a-day" language tho lol. I've been teaching myself for almost a month and don't expect to be even close to fluent for at least another 3-6 months, but that's down to my memory problems lol.
lets teach toki pona to chatGPT.
That's next week's video!
What does it mean "to learn Icelandic" and how to do it in a week?
There's a link to the story in the video description
The Daniel Tammet who learned Icelandic in one week was a savant, memory championship competitor, and knows about eleven languages. The average person will never reach that type of level in speaking a language at a conversational level, like what he did with Icelandic in a week. He was fairly known in the 2000's. That was when I heard of him anyway.
make is that it should become the language of travellers. And then like english it can conquer the world.
telo Kafe, telo lape ala, telo loje pimeja all of these means cofee
kape
ni li sitelen tawa pona, sina wile pali sitelen pona sin pi toki pona?
mi sona ala! complaining there
Btw, what's your mother tongue?
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mi sona ala a!
mi wile ala kama sona pi sitelen Emosi . taso ni li suli
the HAI toki pona video is HORRRRRRRIBLE!!!!!!!!!!!!! 😠😡😠😡
_nice idea, but i dont belive that this will work. Lots of people drink hot water with the color of wood. And in special areas the people has several words for the things in work ...._
Language develops when it is spoken. And so terms are invented or interpreted differently, or new words are simply used for certain things because they are cool. That's why I think that artificial languages would never work, or if they were used they would quickly become corrupted. and thus their original simplicity is lost.