Elden Ring Lore - Rosus Doesn't Exist
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- The Lands Between is full of iconography, and few are more mysterious than the statues depicting Rosus, Usher of the Dead; but what if we told you this person never existed...
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If you take the death birds and overlay them outright, Rosus fits inside them. Almost as if these were deathrite bird statues and the humanoid Rosus was carved outright out of their form.
Rosus is the "Buddy Christ" character of the Lands Between. He looks like someone that the Tibia Mariner would be best buds with. It's like the Golden Order is saying..."Hey kids, we're hip...we got death too!"
Perhaps you're right. Another option is that Rosus was co-opted but did exist, maybe from around the time of the Crucible given his deformations and crown of branches that appears to be an actual part of his head rather than something worn.
I really like this theory of being a figure co-opted by the Golden Order from the deathrite birds. It is a pretty realistic thing to happen, like how many pagan traditions were absorbed into Christian practices (Yule or the Day of the Dead). I think his weird silhouette comes from the need to be able to see him from far distances on the horizon for gameplay, but I wonder which design came first: deathrite birds or Rosus?
That is a good question i now wonder that myself
The Christian understanding has always been to take the good of a culture, expand on it so that it is rightly ordered, and leave that which is contrary.
When it comes to Christmas and Easter, Christian celebration actually predated some of them, and with others it was mere coincidence. The early Christians were primarily focused on having accurate dates, rather than “baptizing” cultural practices. Now, they did take things from the cultures that coincided with those holidays, but that has more to do with accommodating a culture rather than malicious appropriation.
@@juice2307 of course, Christianity would never do something malicious 😂
The technical term for a deity who transports the dead to the next life is a "psychopomp". Real world examples include Charon, Anubis, the Valkyries, the Morrigan, Baron Samedi and the Grim Reaper.
I like this theory a lot. There are plenty of examples of the Golden Order appropriating elements of the older cults of the Death Rite, Ancient Dragons, the Crucible etc, likely to convince their worshippers over to their side.
However, I think that in all likelihood Rosus did exist. Rather than inventing him from nothing, I find it more plausible that the Golden Order took an existing divinity and distorted him to make him more congruent with their dogmas. Elden Ring is chock-full of references to the suppression of Celtic paganism by early Christian preachers, and this practice was one of their favourite weapons: a notable example is the harvest goddess Ffraid/Briganti/Brigít being twisted into St Brigid, or the antlered god Cernunnos into St Ciarán.
A psychopomp isn't a deity, it's just a thing that is said to carry or guide souls. Ravens, crows, vultures, frogs, even plants that move in the wind, like whiporwhills, are psychopomps, too.
(Watch the Legend of Sleepy Hollow and you can see a bunch of them in quick succession as Ichabod Crane starts to feel the headless horseman's presence)
@@CNNBlackmailSupportThe bird Whiporwills? I’m a birdwatcher. Just managed to see (have heard hundreds) my first one this season in southern Mexico. Wish I’d been able to drop that fact at the time.
@dangerousfables The bird and the plant whipperwill, actually. The plants look like little hotdogs impaled on a long blade of grass.
I think it's because they are so obvious when they move, and they are usually in water, so they can wave without onlookers feeling wind, signifying so.ething supernatural
@@CNNBlackmailSupport Well I’ll be damned. There’s a plant with the same (ish) name as the bird. Thank you, this is a rabbit hole that will keep the abyss away for quite a while. I’d always thought the name was onomatopoeic as the bird (a little fluffy nighthawk) makes a distinctive call. I’ll do the reading and report back.
Edit: okay. It seems to be the bird. Been so long since I read lovecraft, I’m a little ashamed I didn’t remember from Dunwich Horror.)
@CNNBlackmailSupport I mean the definition of Psychopomp says a "creature, spirit, angel, demon or deities in many religions, whose responsibility is to escort newly deceased souls from Earth to the Underworld"..... so a deity would be a Psychopomp.
Something interesting i noticed is that in the "Prophecy" painting, there is no Rosus statue in the view, however if you go to the viewpoint yourself there is a Rosus statue in the view. This could help place when the statues were built in the timeline, if you knew when the paintings were made. Or Fromsoft could have just missed the detail.
I like this theory, it reminds me of how Buddha was canonized as a saint in Christianity, or how Jesus is Buddha's little brother in Buddhism
I could think of Rosus of being another other God like the Goddess of Rot or the Firegod. But in some way the Golden Order was either successfully in absorbing him or they also sealed him away and now just use aspects from his teachings for there own ways.
not entirely convinced about rosus being the golden order's attempt to appropriate the deathrite birds. For one thing he looks like the commoners you see around stormveil or leyndell, down to their emaciated faces and long necks. It could be rosus was just one of them who held a high position in the order, presumably presiding over erdtree burials. The dead could be drawn to the image of him for that reason, still holding some reverence for him and his role.
Ok you know I doubted you originally in the trailer short but I have to admit you convinced me. I never made the deathbird connection and I'd like to offer a suggestion: The Rosus statues are re-carved Deathbird statues, like it is hypothesized the Sphinx had a different head at one point due to the weathering differences and proportions. This would make them very old indeed and ties into the ash vases in the catacombs.
I feel like in the gap between Placidusax and Marika, the Twinbird was the dominant outer god and Deathbirds fed the roots of the Great Tree with ashes.
When Marika comes around she orders all the statues recarved.
I like this concept. It works really well within our framework especially since the deathbirds were huge. They could absolutely carve down from there to create the Rosus statues.
@@square-table-gaming I just checked the Rosus statue at the start of the game in limgrave and the plinth looks too small to originally hold a deathbird and the stone of the plinth is the Giants culture stone and carving I think, while the statue stone is more like the roundtable hold statues and withered monks.
Also Rosus has 3 reptile like toes and the deathbirds have like six rootlike toes.
Still doesn't refute it you could carve away a lot but again the plinth size messes with me on this.
Also he has 2 cloak clasps with the eight circle radius linked to the giant's god's eye. No idea if that has meaning.
Also he's holding what looks like a lily bulb in a gold dish and IIRC that's where the guiding beam originates from.
Gonna think on this one real hard but I still think you are right about him not existing, and Rosus's Axe isn't an axe Rosus used, but rather an axe that commemorates him.
Maybe Rosus was the big boss of all the Deathbirds, and the Golden Order destroyed and remade him to cement their control over the fundamental forces of the Lands Between. It seems to be the Golden Order's method of operation for most problems. Malformed Stars? Make an Elden Beast. Gods not obeying you? Let's turn them into multiple personalities and dominate one of them.
Imagine that you are playing the DLC and you get close to a minor erdtree at night and suddenly a boss healthbar appears: Rosus, Leader of the Dead
I don't think the Elden Beast is a response to the Malformed Stars. It is the Elden Ring itself, and there is considerable evidence that the Elden Ring existed long before Marika became its vessel. There is the version of it seen in Farum Azula, which was a major power when Placidusax was Elden Lord instead of Godfrey, and the Golden Order was created when Marika removed the Rune of Death from the Elden Ring, indicating that Death was once a part of both the Elden Ring and the order it imposed upon the world.
I suspect the similarities between Astel (who is probably the adult form of the Malformed Stars) and the Elden Beast can be chalked up to From Software's age plot twist of having Sorcery and Miracles actually be two sides of the same coin. You see this in Dark Souls with Velka's Talisman letting you cast Miracles with Intelligence rather than Faith, and likewise with Gwyndolin's Catalyst letting you scale Sorcery off of Faith. It becomes even more explicit in Elden Ring where many Incantations of the Golden Order require Intelligence RATHER than faith (makes sense, the Fundamentalists are stated to be scholars, and the founder of Golden Order Fundamentalism was a Carian sorcerer before he studied incantations), and both Death Sorcery and Magma Sorcery require Faith as well as Intelligence to cast. The former is drawn heavily from the power of the corrupted parts of the Erdtree. The latter is drawn from the power of the serpent god that was adapted by a Carian sorcerer for acceptable use before he outright embraced the serpent god.
I think this is my favourite lore video of yours. Rosus was one of those figures that I didn't really think about enough to wonder about the lore; but it makes a lot of sense for The Golden Order to co-opt practices of the previous death rites, as a means of compounding their monopoly over life and death.
It also fits in pretty well to the pretty well accepted theory that the caracombs were from a previous era that Marika's era kind of commandeered and centred around The Erdtree/Great Tree.
It calls back to when Rogier tells you how The Golden Order was _"...pliable enough to absorb practices that contradicted itself in the past."_
Rosus is somehow connected to the Helphen. In the Helphen Steeple item description we read:
"The lamplight is similar to grace in appearance, only it is said that it can only be seen by those who met their death in battle."
This seems to be very similar to what we see when we activate Rosus statue. There is a stream of blue light similar to grace that radiates from the lamp that Rosus is holding towards the catacombs. I think this is the purpose of Rosus statues, to guide those who died in battle and were not buried in the catacombs towards the roots.
Why do we as a player can see the lamplight? Well possibly because we have also died in battle.
I think we will find out more about Rosus in the upcoming DLC.
Well, we have a Tower on the DLC that is related. Supression Tower
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Definitly Rosus was an appropiated concept, as the catacombs in general, why would catacombs have space for coffins or cremated remains if the intention was the Erdtree burial,, probably catacombs were adaspted for Erdtree burial but that was not their original purpose
Because its still politics, closeness to erdtree roots/buried persons, servants buried near their lords, pets, friends, group affiliates of lesser pedigree. Many reasons why
I just found his axe yesterday and thought it'd be cool to find out more about him, so thank you for this amazing video. Look forward to more amazing stuff
I love that axe, actually makes Tibia's Summons work lol
The Root Resin description makes it clear that the roots of the Greattree, which the Erdtree is attached to, do indeed stretch all across the Lands Between. The two exceptions of Miquella's Haligtree, which was built specifically to exist outside of the Erdtree and ultimately replace it, and Farum Azula.
Now on the DLC we have a Tower Called "supression Tower" that is related to Rosus, on the top of the Tower there's a table that says "the True center of the lands between. All types of death come Just to be supressed"
How do we know it's related to Rosus?
Wow, man. I never gave this much thought, but it wouldn't be out of the ordinary for an invented character with imagery of the past to be used for a task serving the ruling government of the land, as has happened to most cultures and regimes throughout history. That being said, I have no clue why imp shades exist, or why the light of Rosus dispels them. That's the only potential wrinkle in this theory that I can come up with.
If you wouldn't mind, do you have any theories you could share regarding the Spiritcaller Snails? I don't have any. These things are bizarre, and the Spiritcaller Cave makes them stranger.
People have asked us about the spirit caller snails and honestly I haven't found anything to explain them. I'm still looking though.
I swear, every time I'm on a hiatus with this game, your videos always get me in the mood to play again. 🤘 Still, the dozens upon dozens of dead finger readers strewn about outside the Queen's Bedchamber makes me wonder WTF happened to them! I thought, maybe Marika was looking for some answers to why her son was killed, or why only his soul died, etc. and had them killed one by one after not getting the "readings" she wanted to hear. Idk, I'd love to hear your thoughts on it STG!
We're actually on the same wavelength. Personally I believe that Marika had a hand in Godwyns death as a way of breaking free from the Golden Order but that's a bit tin-foil hat on my part. With her disdain for the Golden order though and her connection to black knife assassins as she too is Numen, I believe she had the finger readers gather outside of her bedchamber so they could be slaughtered by the Assassin we find there.
Tibia Mariners guide the dead to their final resting place where as Rosus feeds them to the Erdtree. every catacomb has rotting corpses tied to the erdtrees roots.
To me he looks like a death bird statue recarved and altered to a new character. Like the sphinx. Remember death birds have spears, they could’ve just chopped off the end and turned it into a staff.
I think rather than Twinbird imagery being coopted via Rosus, the catacombs were repurposed for erdtree root burial. People were actually burned and entombed in the catacombs, which is why there are bones, urns, and stone coffins in wall recesses specifically created for them, as well as broken and lying about on the floor. There is no reason for those alternative burial procedures to have been performed if the caves were only meant for erdtree burial.
I've seen this idea a lot and it does have some merit, but it seems unlikely that the roots would always appear in the exact same chamber across different catacombs if they were co-opted
“Rodents of Suspiciously Unusual Size? I don’t think they exists.”
I believe the golden order might not want people to know who Rosus really was, but the axe doing magic damage and summoning undead makes me think he was a real being, I might have been looking at it wrong, but there might be depictions of this dude in the halig tree too, which could mean this being has been around or was a really great influence on some people
The theories are so good and that artwork is beautiful
Rousus looks the a albunrick so maybe they made the ablbunirces to guide the dead just a dumb Idea
Albinaurics don't have elongated necks and would likely die well before they reached this skeletal looking age. Also, albinaurics of an advanced age lose their legs, Rosus while slumped over is def standing. There's also the 3 toes versus 5 toes thing.
Rosus also uses a headsman axe which probably inspired the mausoleum knights.
Love your theory! I always thought Rosus was a Tibia Mariner given his similar stature, role, and item description when talking about the dead in need of guidence. Given that the catacombs preced the Erdtree it is really likely. Perhaps the Mariners were part of the boat catacombs beneath Stormveil Castsle and were taken out of a job once the golden order did their thing. If Rosus was a Golden Order member then you'd think the order would not create their statues with Death Rite Bird features.
By the way, if that intro was made in response to my comment the other day than I'm touched.
7:19 I just realized that death birds have corpses inside of their chests
I'm of the same mind that what you see of Rosus now in the lands between is an interpretation. The timeline supports him existing before the establishment of the golden order, and the axe with his visage casts a death sorcery (or hex), something not taught by the Carians or the Golden Order. The lamps inside the catacombs are lit w ghostlight, to boot.
The other hint leaning in that direction is the existence of "hidden" catacombs like the Leyendell Catacombs which was functionally sealed off and is filled with statues seen nowhere else, and the pathway to the haligtree, which is a catacomb that was started from the consecrated snowfield side (there's a rosus statue there but it's been toppled)
The golden order is great at taking old iconography from previous rulers so it makes alot of sense they'd do this with rosus statue.
Very good video! You should do a video on the confessors there is so much lore around them and i'd love to hear your theories on them.
Personally I think he's the same guy depicted in statues inside the Roundtable Hold, or atleast one of them. They all have elongated features and stand before a sapling or a circular conjoining of branches similar to Rosus' crown. They were priests of the death birds who aligned with the golden order and watered the erdtree with souls.
Personally I think Rosus was real because the guiding light his statues create, the candles in the crypts and importantly his axe, all seem to use actual ghost flame.
Rosus is most likely the character depicted in all the statues lying around the entire game, like the statue of the philosopher holding the tablets, and later a statue of a character with the primordial tree growing around him, and finally the statues pointing towards the catacombs after emerging from the primordial tree given the branches growing from his head.
Miquella is literally doing the exact same thing I mentioned above, following a cycle that occurred long before Marika and the golden order.
I like the idea but the only issue I have with it is that the statues are much more humanoid than Rosus. It also doesn't explain that the beast chill claws or three-toed feet
Rosus reminds me more of finger readers than those who live in death tbh. Like a long lived servant of the 2 fingers that usher the dead to the roots. Makes sense to em with the hunch over too. if he's appropriated from the deathbird that makes sense too. Very cool.
I'm glad you mentioned Rosus looking like deathbirds! I noticed this too. My take is he did exist! We know there was another God and vassal lord in the twinbird. Who ruled over the deathbirds, I think Rosus served them and their agenda but then was either abandoned or convinced to switch sides. I think he does exist and we'll see more of him in the coming dlc, at least that's my hope, lol.
Sadly though we do find more statues we didn't get any new lore
The most mystery lore in elden lore. He does have a feature of a grim reaper tho. Not sure why
He is clearly the dancer or a turtle pope without a shell.
I think his visage mirrors the visage of those who can actually be found at the tree roots themselves. I think the roots seeping out from under his own cloak is pretty damning.
My idea is that Rosus was in fact a real person, probably the first person to ever engage in an Erdtree Burial during ancient times, likely just after Marika removed the Rune of Death from the Elden Ring. Judging by his crown he was probably someone of status while he was alive, making it a pretty grounded theory. His hollowed out face and frail body also remind me of characters like Gostoc or Goldmask, people who yet live, the only difference being his posture.
I like the concept but I'm skeptical that anyone with bestial properties would have been given an Erdtree burial
@@square-table-gaming In the time before the Golden Order they would. I mean, Leyndell accepted Morgott as king; do you think it would be too above them to recognize the person who trailblazed Erdtree Burial as their saint?
@@MeanAndPristine leyndell did not know morgott was an omen. It was an incredibly well kept secret of the golden order.
He has the same body type as the erdtree guardians near the erd trees/capital leading up to Golden Godfrey, etc.
True! but they don't share his talons, crowns, or clothes. Nor does he have a tree growing from him and their elongated bodies/necks are directly related to the trees growing from their bodies.
I have two separate theories one of which is they managed to somehow mutated a death Bird by feeding it through the urdtree as a means of creating a servant.
And the other has to do with the giant gargoyles. Because what if rosus was the name of the first person who is put in control of one of these things when they assembled it? And considering how they use the bodies of heroes to make it, it could have been a case of rosus just didn't do anything heroic because he was in effect an experimental weapon that just turned out to be successful. Although bearing in mind this is all off of the speculation of we don't know how smart the gargoyles are in elden ring but we do know they are smart enough to be able to be trained and how to fight with weapons. And that's not even adding on the fact that if this theory is true then it could actually be a reason for why people might want to become one of the gargoyles (and the none too small fact that the golden order probably wants to make them because on a very basic level it is taking a bunch of relativly common chaff "units" and converting them into a singular fighter capable of holding its own against a much greater enemies then they would have before)
Was observing the similarities/differences between Rosus's head and the Death Bird's skull-heads and suddenly realized a super creepy possibility.
Astel (and the other Malformed Stars) have a very similar "skull-head with a hole bashed in it" design, except that the the malformed stars heads are filled with some sort of eye... which led us to wonder... are the malformed stars possessory entities of some sort, possibly having taken over and then repurposes some sort of death-bird-like being so they can manifest in the world? Alternatively, is there a connection between the Twin-Bird and the malformed stars?
as soon as you pointed out he has a 3 talon foot my mind immediately jumped to the theory you proposed- like the ancient Christians adopting pagan rituals and transforming them into part of the Christian calendar (eg Saturnalia)- rosus is the statue of a deathbird that has been modified. Then you got to the same conclusion. So i think i am bought in!
To reinforce- the heroes graves frequently feature the flower symbol of faram azula on the floor, and faram azula also depicts the death bird- so it all lines up nicely.
His body shape definitely reminds me of deathrite birds, nice theory.
I clearly need to read more, because even encountering those statues, using that light in those catacombs, and probably even got the axe, I never even knew of the name Rosus. And if your theory holds true, oh the irony of me not realizing his existence. Or in this case, lack of existence.
Rosus is so obscure and un talked about by the community that they are actively discounting his existence
I love lore so much
You got it ;)
Thank you again for adding my idea in a video and if that idea was sonething important for the channel I am glad I helped
Important or not, when people request strong topics, we're going to make sure they're bumped up on our list.
His Appearance isn’t all that strange actually. Minus the clawed feet he looks a lot like the Finger reader crones and Goldmask, misshapen eyeless and mummy like. I suppose sages of the golden order just kind of look like that, mummified while still alive in a monk sort of way. Rosus was probably a real guy I think, because I don’t think that the Golden Order would adopt the Deathbirds into their religion in any sense, converted or otherwise. Their are servant’s of a rival outer god after all. (It’s talked about a bit in the Twin-bird shield description)
rosus stands kind of like the wormfaces and wears a similar hood that they also wear, this could help date the worm masks
If I remember my school latin correctly Rosus means something along the line of "diminished" or "eaten away"
Wow that's crazy I never thought u do the lore of the statue that leads us to the catacombs of elden ring! Interesting lore of him! And please do the lore of dragon hearts in elden ring!
"Rosus doesn’t exist" said SquareTableGaming before fiinding out that Rosus is the secret final boss of Shadow of the Erdtree
If that happens my face will be so red
I think Rosus is actually a distraction from a much more enigmatic entity. Which one? Well, while it may have a name, we tarnished can only guess.
There is a character, an entity of such scale and power as to be able to stand in plain sight and not be seen. To find, to glimpse its majesty you must crawl through the Academy Crystal Cave during daylight times and ascend the great there. Once atop the tower look southward and up. It must be day. It can also be seen from other locations within Raya Lucaria Academy, in the day.
You will want to think it is a wisp, it is not. The wisps appear more like magical currents fading in and out. You’ll that the blue wisps at academy are visible all day and night but on a in-and-out loop type deal. They lack a definite shape. This blue thing high in the sky has a definite form, but I cannot describe the form.
Red wisps can be found in the foggy path to the mountaintops, black and white wisps can be found falling in the Devine towers. Rosus kinda makes wisps to guide you to those graves. Grace guidance also appears wisplike. The thing above the academy is unique.
It is also not a moon/starlight beam. It is not a solar/Erdtree grace beam.
Pretty cool theory, always love looking at obscure af lore and than just making it work.
(i understand it sounds like ironic, but i do the same thing so i really mean it)
What is the lore behind the shadow enemies that become weak in Rosus,s light in the catacombs ?? How did they become an untouchable black enemies ?? 🤔
No real explanation there unfortunately :\
You guys never fail to surprise me.This theory is crazy and I love your interpretation.I didn't even know the statue had a name xD
This idea is great guys! Makes so much sense and It happens all the time in our world
Theory kinda doesn't explain the visage of Rosus. Death Bird likeness made into statue by Golden Order is basically what your sayin, hmmm...
Would have been made durin Crucible era and I'll have to go double check his sigils to see if it's the ancient tree or not...
Given the fact that the heroes graves are full of cremation urns, I'm pretty sure this video hours pretty close to the mark
What a twist🤯
😮 My curiosity of the other day is now even *more* intense! This is a really good theory. You are right, the Rosus statues all bear a marked similarity to the Death/Death Rite Birds. The only thing I have to add is that Rosus’ posture reminds me somewhat of Zorayas’ posture when she is in human form, so I wonder if there isn’t some hidden serpent-y/dragon-y association, as well. Birds evolved from dinosaurs (which are both reptilian/serpent-y and dragonlike).
Idk, guys. I love this theory, but now you’ve made me need to go run down Elden Ring Rabbit Hole #48,720, so hats off to you for a great theory … & *MORE* (gasp!) … Elden Lore.
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In fact, the Devouring serpent statues on Eiglay's church have a body and feet exactly as the Rosus statues, and wings too.
@@woffydoggy686 😮 Damn, thank you! And “Eiglay,” the Devouring Serpent? Check “Eglė, Queen of the Grass Serpents” on Wikipedia, if you haven’t already seen this connection - so Rykard “married” a god, & became his “consort’s” lord. At the end of the story, the snakes turn into … well, I’ll leave that fun part out so you can discover it for yourself, if you don’t know the story of Eglė.
And thanks so much for that bit of observation about the feet & body of the statues - but have you also noticed that the serpents’ heads seem to have been grafted (!) onto the bodies of birds? And where is it again - Church of Dragon Communion? - where there are a bunch of those statues with the serpent heads removed? I’m sorry this reply is so long, but the bit about the serpent statue feet & body just threw me into … the next set of rabbit holes! I love this stupid game *waaaay* too much.
Cheers 🥂 😉👍
OMG you Found a DLC Boss don't let me lie. Now I start to believe that the unknown Characters will mostly be DLC Bosses. Please continue to make Videos like that❤
If Tibia Mariners are a real, non mythological thing, then Charon would need to be some other entity.
Does he really look worse than the finger readers. Why would you think he can’t be with the golden order?
Rosus is actually Frank Stallone...book it, done
Rossus looks like a finger reader crone but the male version, the crones have no legs though. Similar to gen 1 albinuric men and gen 1 women who do have legs. Very mirrored.
Rossus who is an opposite to the finger readers, is a guide to death and dark, the finger reader crones are a guide to life and light
Great video. Many questions to ask.
I agree that the statues and multiple aspects of the catacombs are the golden orders attempt at conjoining the deathrite birds and their ghostflame into that of the golden orders religious beliefs but i do not think Rossus was never real. I think that Rossus was one of the first of those who live in death from when the golden order was still establishing itself into the dominant power it is today. Rossus could have been one who lived in death and started to make a name for himself or otherwise was a religious believer who became one who lives in death and the order used them as a form of icon that can guide those outside of the purview of death and the systems they had in place to deal with death in order to have these people willingly give themselves over to the golden order and the erdtree based cycle of rebirth. I really do believe that Rossus was a character from the past of the lands between but that it is very possible and even likely that since his passing or imprisonment that the golden order has continued to use the idea of Rossus and what he stood for as a form of false icon that can achieve their goals to ultimately remove those who live in death from the order and the lands between
Off topic but my question is …
The Misbegotten….
They have 3 legendary weapons for the taken … why is that ???
Smoughtown's "Elden Ring Lore | Hidden Stories" talks about this a bit. Iirc he speculates that the Misbegotten Warriors had a culture of strength, where having a legendary weapon was a sign of power and so on.
Rosus' Greataxe kind of makes me think he was real. Maybe he was repurposed by the Golden Order to direct people to Erdtree burial.
I love the Golden Order propaganda perspective behind Rosus. I like to think that Rosus was a deathrite bird that was a traitor to the old ways and embraced the Golden Order or Rosus was a coerced participant in the Order's propaganda plan.
To me, he looks an awful lot like the first generation Albinaurics. Limp legs, extremely hunched back, frail body, long neck, gaunt face, and many of them even wear circlets or crowns. Why, then, that an albinauric would be hailed as some guide to the dead I'm not sure, especially since they're artificial lifeforms, but the visual similarities are there nonetheless.
Rosus is the Tibia Mariner. Thats how I took it at least. But im just a cat...
Very different characters side by side
@@square-table-gaming I'm a cat dammit I try! Lolz
7:25 Like irl religions.
Exactly
This reminds me of Buddha Statue. Buddhist is starting on India but after spread to both Japan & Thailand both country make them own Buddha Statue and way to teaching Follower but still they all same Buddhist.
Rosus is actually Marika
Ha!
Algormancy!
Nice!
Rosus is just a guy from the same race as those finger reader women.
The finger reader Crohn's don't seem to have any branches growing out of their bodies though, they also don't have three bestial toes
@@square-table-gaming male/female different features
Thanks!
Thank you!
Hmm, a newer religion that takes the practices and icons of an older religion to slowly wipe it out over time..?
That's pretty messed up, I hope that's never happened before.. 😏
Its similar to how santa and Christmas as a pagan holiday was coopted by Christianity 😅its crazy how similar the golden order is to the Christianity as an institution...easter bunny ...
Like whats more I am african and generally before we were colonized we believe in ancestors ...😂and now african Christianity involves ancestors 😅in a manner i can only describe as somehow ....but its crazy that the golden order has so much to do with Bible...MARY(KA) ...VIRGIN BIRTHS ...other peoples god and religion ate called demons and heretical (outer gods) ..although i wonder what other myths they threw in the mix ...cuz animal spirits and ancestors spirits are similar to african myths(religions,) whereas the golden order seems to draw from judeochristian myths( religions)
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Tl;dw: Golden Order = Christianity.
Dark souls and bloodborne had far more lore than elden ring
That doesn't mean that Elden Ring's lore is lesser. All of Fromsoft's games have really awesome lore, including Elden Ring.
You think?
@LtCdrXander yes but elden ring doesn't want to go that deep
@@alsimmonshellspawn6021 I don't know if I would agree with that after the copious hours I've poured into untangling all of these stories.
@square-table-gaming dark souls and bloodborne has God's and outer being lore which exten deep unlike elden which barely has any God's and most are just demi gods
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