I do like the changes they are making , it’s not too radical from legends. It is also respectful to legends as they are resurrecting legends characters. Kicking Kennedy to the curb creatively and putting Dave in has proved successful
I think Filoni is retying Legends back to Canon. Thrawn is one example. Zeffo are another example. The Dark Saber? Legend turned Canon. Literally, he is pulling Legends back and telling Disney, "No. These are real."
I believe it was indeed "Raise" opposed to "Praise". After Kujet's death he was entombed on Dathomir. After this the Zeffo presumably left the Star Wars galaxy. I assume they found their way to Peridia, meeting the Great Mothers. These mothers have many powers, one being resurrection/reanimation of the dead. This may be why the inscription mentions raising Kujet.
7:46 Keep in mind, the Nightsisters don't really worship or use the Dark Side, that's what seperates them from the Sith. They're not afraid to search all aspects of the Force, but the Dark Side is a corruption of the force, so that's not what they're about. That's a Sith thing. So, the Ancient Sith viewed the Zeffo as gods? Or are the Zeffo just so naturally connected to the Force (like Yoda's species and a few others) that the idea of one of them being closer to the Dark was enticing? Also, the Dathomiri aren't masters of the Dark Side, so why would they praise Kujet? They worshipped the Son and the Daughter, they too believed in the balance, but the Dark Side is a corruption of the force, (and the Son isn't a master of the Dark Side either, he just later fell to it) so I wonder if he was there before the Dathomiri Witches and Brothers arrived. They worshipped him as a powerful force user maybe, but they already had their primary gods.
I wonder if we’ll get to see Cal and Merrin make an appearance during ahsoka either in this season or the next season, both are alive at the end of Jedi survivor so theoretically they are still alive here and could make an appearance, especially since Merrin is a night sister and Cal knows a lot about the zeffo thanks to master Cordova. It would be a cool way of introducing them to current events in the live action shows
This is really interesting. Maybe Kujet gathered some followers on Dathomire and indeed ruled on Peridia. I understand why everyone wants to escape. I don't think they will escape. I agree. It's possible Kujet's followers established cults that lead to Nightsisters and to the Sith. The beggining. I don't think Baylan is listening to him. It's someone else. We'll see who. In the next episode. May the Force be with you too
Yeah Kujet seems like the most likely given all ‘the writings on the wall’ but I do wonder if it’ll turn out that Kujet was a Zeffo Son of Mortis avatar. Still pulling for Aboleth but that would be a huge leap from where live action is now and we just got Thrawn back plus Zeffo confirmed.
@@yugiohpacker The Ones or the Gods of Mortis had a woman servant who cared for them and kept the daughter and son in check to help the father. The only tbing was that the mother was mortal and so when she got to a fraile age she went behind the father back and bathed in both the son and the daughters force nexus which in turn cured her aging but since she isnt a god she became twisted and rose as the being known as Abeloth.
@@relint12 Yeah I can see that the only thing is to me Shin looks like the perfect Avatar for Abeloth as they both look almost identical if she were to end up with the long mouth and dark silver eyes 🫣
@@xanthenxd9467 Great question! I watched a play through of the scene and it appears he left it there in the floor. They could have gone back to fetch it after the main storyline, though? I’m just looking for an excuse to being Cal into everything I guess. 😂
In Star Wars Survivor: Jedi master Cordova mentioned that are some remnants of the Zeffo species in the unknown region of the main Star Wars galaxy, since Star Wars jedi trilogy has been green lit for a third and final game, perhaps the storyline will focus finding the remaining Zeffo and the game will end on a massive cliffhanger that signifies the return Kujet. In which lead into this new Star Wars movie under Dave.
Probably not gonna happen, since Survivor was all about finding shelter for the Hidden Path and had nothing to do with the Zeffo, so the 3rd game will probably continue with the Path. I loved the Zeffo though and I'd love more of them
if there was a galactic war between the Zeffo and Rakatan Empire would make for some insane comics or a show. I would prefer if the Rakatan Empire was older than the Zeffo tho, since they are the original, the Zeffo being inspired by them.
This is all so fascinating. It's been a while, since that's been a strong theme in The SWU and SW live-action content, overall. It seems like parts (or maybe even all) of Peridea are being haunted or "influenced" by an unseen, unknown force (or a malevolent power in The Force), that only a small group of individuals can sense, esp. Baylan, which is mysterious...why him? I wonder if Ahsoka will sense anything ALIEN about the energy coming off of Peridea, once she enters its system? A planetary ring of DEAD space whales is already a sobering feature of this planet. We've never seen it in The SWU before...
I think the Zeffo are FROM peridea, and were thinking of the nightsisters the wrong way around. They are from darthomir, and they rode the purrgil TO Peridea. think about it, if the Night Sisters learned to ride the Whales, and the whales DIE at the end of the Route how does that work? (personally i think something is killing the Purrgil)
I think they moved to Peridia after Kujet's death. They most likely wish to raise Kujet from death (as mentioned on the inscription) using the powers of the Great Mothers. I also found it interesting that the raiders on Peridia had helmets shaped like the Zeffo.
The Zeffo actually kinda remind me of a species in Legends called the Qua which went around the galaxy teaching other species about the force eventually they devolved into a horse like species called the Qui I think. I thought they were very interesting too.
It wasnt only in the temple with thrawn, it was also in the very 1st episode when ahsoka finds the map the inside and where the map was found, the puzzle she had to solve to get the map all the way down to the layout of the room etc is very reminiscent of fallen order and the zeffo temples.......
If you study the face of Kujet and Snoke they look similar maybe palpatine used Kujet dna to make Snoke. Palpatine often spoke of a energy calling him from the unknown regions! Perhaps Kujet discovered immortality and perhaps darth plagueis learned this secret from him
@@JamesKawamuraanother thing I noticed was Baylon has a gold ring that looks a lot like Snokes made out of gold and obsidian maybe these are relics of Kujet
How come eveyone is going to the zeffo or aboloth. Not one video has been done on another option. The grysk. In the both of the new Thrawn trilogies it seems theyre being set up as the new yuuzhan vong. So couldnt it be that this is the galaxy that the grysk are coming from? That they've used most of this new galaxies resources? Hence why Thrawn and last remaining nightsisters want to leave.
As I stated before, the Zeffo had a history on Peridia and the Night Sisters with the Zeffo; on Peridia and Dathomir. However, the Sith also have a history on Peridia, but without a connection to the Night Sisters or Zeffo. As they went on to Pesegam (Moraband and Korriban). Long before the mixing of Sith with other species. My theory lies more towards this being a nexus of sort within the force, one of beginning or perhaps choice; especially to those with a certain ambition or mission, but not necessarily an ambition of absolute power and control. Think more COSMIC FORCE... and less Living Force. Which may be difficult for some to wrap in their mind. The Night Sisters likely flee it, because they do not have ambition nor do they respect it as they should. They may even see it as more ancient Jedi in nature, than in Dark Side. One of balance, which they certainly would not condone. It may even consider the Night Sisters as having corrupted the force. Mixing in other things, as did ancient Sith Alchemists. I won't go on further with my conclusions, since there are 3 I've come up with which take too long to go through. Also, what I figure is the most likely is also the most boring and leaves us wanting. I could say a 4th theory, but it's too crazy, yet it's really good for Sabine.
What if those bone boxes that the witches have are actually filled with croaked zeffo instead of witches ? They need to get back to the known galaxy to find enough bodies for their spirits to hop into so that the zeffo can live again.
How's this? His spirit is in an object, say a helmet or neck wear or cloak and his spirit is calling out, like Darth Momin did, and as soon as it is put on, his spirit will take complete control of the body and he will live again! And then he will be free to reign over two galaxies and change the past, present and future! Maybe he will stop Darth Sidious before he can start using Snoke to bother Ben Solo and end the new circle of Sith vs Jedi before Darth Sidious can cause any trouble and reset the timeline to make the Legends timeline the future!
The planet appearing from space seems so desolate and alone. Maybe the civilizations in that galaxy out lived themselves, and that’s why they wanna get outta there.
hey ... why does the dead Kujet look an awful lot like Snoke ? Besides snoke also being way bigger then a human? I always wonderd why a failed palpatine clone would be almost twice the size. But if you trown Kujet into the mix ..... What if Kujet tomb on Peridia IS what's needed to clone Palpatine; is also what's calling Baylan; is also why Ezra is trying to keep everybody stranded on Peridia even tough he could have left with the purgils...with Snoke as a failed cloning experiment; this means Trawn's return with the nightsisters (and possibly future exegol necromancers) sets the stage for the rise of palpatine ... and actually ties everything nicely together. All we need is for Baylan, Shin, Ahsoka, Sabine and Ezra to either stay on Peridia or die; because they don't appear later in the story.
Tying everything nicely is still not going to fix the fact that TROS is a bad payoff. Imagine if all these shows were coming out before the sequels and we got Endgame-level hype for them based on speculation?
Has anyone considered that some lazy computer graphics techs just reused some assets? Cut up some images and turned them upside down to keep them from being easily recognized.
It better not be Abeloth. That would be such a waste as it would make thrawn feel like a nothing bad guy. Also the show is Ahsoka so unless she becomes the leader in taking on Abeloth then Abeloth would just steal the show from everyone
Ok again i have read most of the novels and comics and have done tons of deep dive rabbit hole looks into Star wars legends and canon I don’t remember a Sith language decipher code or book do you find that on learning new languages app wtf
Look im a huge Star wars nerd but really how do you even learn to decipher the fine print on the walls wtf let me guess there are super fans that claim they can speak Wookie and Ewok huh
I do like the changes they are making , it’s not too radical from legends. It is also respectful to legends as they are resurrecting legends characters. Kicking Kennedy to the curb creatively and putting Dave in has proved successful
His head dress and style does resemble the night sisters style
Agreed. I also like that there's new lore and mysteries to delve into.
This myth or legend is probably too old but hopefully whatever is calling better be AWESOME!!!! Too make this show worth it.
I think Filoni is retying Legends back to Canon. Thrawn is one example. Zeffo are another example. The Dark Saber? Legend turned Canon. Literally, he is pulling Legends back and telling Disney, "No. These are real."
I hope she gets the films taken from her. Can’t stand the Mary Sue movies.
I believe it was indeed "Raise" opposed to "Praise". After Kujet's death he was entombed on Dathomir. After this the Zeffo presumably left the Star Wars galaxy. I assume they found their way to Peridia, meeting the Great Mothers. These mothers have many powers, one being resurrection/reanimation of the dead. This may be why the inscription mentions raising Kujet.
7:46 Keep in mind, the Nightsisters don't really worship or use the Dark Side, that's what seperates them from the Sith. They're not afraid to search all aspects of the Force, but the Dark Side is a corruption of the force, so that's not what they're about. That's a Sith thing.
So, the Ancient Sith viewed the Zeffo as gods? Or are the Zeffo just so naturally connected to the Force (like Yoda's species and a few others) that the idea of one of them being closer to the Dark was enticing?
Also, the Dathomiri aren't masters of the Dark Side, so why would they praise Kujet?
They worshipped the Son and the Daughter, they too believed in the balance, but the Dark Side is a corruption of the force, (and the Son isn't a master of the Dark Side either, he just later fell to it) so I wonder if he was there before the Dathomiri Witches and Brothers arrived. They worshipped him as a powerful force user maybe, but they already had their primary gods.
Cal has to show up soon man, either that or he meets ahsoka and the ghost crew in his third game
Cal in Ahsoka, would not happen, not in first season, it would be sick, but it won'y happen. Besides, I heard that Cal would had his own series.
and how, pretell, would Cal Kestus of ALL people, get to the Outer Regions?..
@@originalSiiiN He will not, but it would be sick
Imagine chopper and BD teaming up, that sounds like a toxic relationship just waiting to happen. Lol
@@fazbrogaming7776 BD is manipulating mouther****** who can turn your own droid against you and Chopper ha commited countless war crimes. Perfect duo.
I wonder if we’ll get to see Cal and Merrin make an appearance during ahsoka either in this season or the next season, both are alive at the end of Jedi survivor so theoretically they are still alive here and could make an appearance, especially since Merrin is a night sister and Cal knows a lot about the zeffo thanks to master Cordova. It would be a cool way of introducing them to current events in the live action shows
Genius dude, I think you are onto something.
That sounds like the kinda thing Baylan would be looking for.
This is really interesting. Maybe Kujet gathered some followers on Dathomire and indeed ruled on Peridia. I understand why everyone wants to escape. I don't think they will escape. I agree. It's possible Kujet's followers established cults that lead to Nightsisters and to the Sith. The beggining. I don't think Baylan is listening to him. It's someone else. We'll see who. In the next episode. May the Force be with you too
what next episode though, it's over
@@wanjakunits6605 there was new episode after.
Who ever were the ones who deciphered these writings… thank you. Awesome video.
This is all so interesting. Looking forward to see how it will all pan out.
I could see it being Kujet and the Zeffo but my moneys riding on the hope that Abeloth appears. 🙌
Who’s ebeloth?
Maybe it's both 🤔
Yeah Kujet seems like the most likely given all ‘the writings on the wall’ but I do wonder if it’ll turn out that Kujet was a Zeffo Son of Mortis avatar. Still pulling for Aboleth but that would be a huge leap from where live action is now and we just got Thrawn back plus Zeffo confirmed.
@@yugiohpacker The Ones or the Gods of Mortis had a woman servant who cared for them and kept the daughter and son in check to help the father. The only tbing was that the mother was mortal and so when she got to a fraile age she went behind the father back and bathed in both the son and the daughters force nexus which in turn cured her aging but since she isnt a god she became twisted and rose as the being known as Abeloth.
@@relint12 Yeah I can see that the only thing is to me Shin looks like the perfect Avatar for Abeloth as they both look almost identical if she were to end up with the long mouth and dark silver eyes 🫣
Cal Kestis found the first Kujet astrium, Ashoka found another one, maybe Baylon is called to find the third, so they can Raise Kujet?
But I thought the Austrium he had was used to open the bogano tomb, did he retrieve it?
@@xanthenxd9467 Great question! I watched a play through of the scene and it appears he left it there in the floor. They could have gone back to fetch it after the main storyline, though? I’m just looking for an excuse to being Cal into everything I guess. 😂
In Star Wars Survivor: Jedi master Cordova mentioned that are some remnants of the Zeffo species in the unknown region of the main Star Wars galaxy, since Star Wars jedi trilogy has been green lit for a third and final game, perhaps the storyline will focus finding the remaining Zeffo and the game will end on a massive cliffhanger that signifies the return Kujet. In which lead into this new Star Wars movie under Dave.
Probably not gonna happen, since Survivor was all about finding shelter for the Hidden Path and had nothing to do with the Zeffo, so the 3rd game will probably continue with the Path. I loved the Zeffo though and I'd love more of them
if there was a galactic war between the Zeffo and Rakatan Empire would make for some insane comics or a show. I would prefer if the Rakatan Empire was older than the Zeffo tho, since they are the original, the Zeffo being inspired by them.
yeah since the rakata themsevles rose against the Celstals
If they make it a sith artifact that's calling out to Baylen and then he has to fight a force ghost would be cool
This is all so fascinating. It's been a while, since that's been a strong theme in The SWU and SW live-action content, overall. It seems like parts (or maybe even all) of Peridea are being haunted or "influenced" by an unseen, unknown force (or a malevolent power in The Force), that only a small group of individuals can sense, esp. Baylan, which is mysterious...why him? I wonder if Ahsoka will sense anything ALIEN about the energy coming off of Peridea, once she enters its system? A planetary ring of DEAD space whales is already a sobering feature of this planet. We've never seen it in The SWU before...
I think the Zeffo are FROM peridea, and were thinking of the nightsisters the wrong way around. They are from darthomir, and they rode the purrgil TO Peridea.
think about it, if the Night Sisters learned to ride the Whales, and the whales DIE at the end of the Route how does that work? (personally i think something is killing the Purrgil)
I think they moved to Peridia after Kujet's death. They most likely wish to raise Kujet from death (as mentioned on the inscription) using the powers of the Great Mothers. I also found it interesting that the raiders on Peridia had helmets shaped like the Zeffo.
I think you have this right Stupendous Wave. We will see tonight!
The Zeffo actually kinda remind me of a species in Legends called the Qua which went around the galaxy teaching other species about the force eventually they devolved into a horse like species called the Qui I think. I thought they were very interesting too.
It wasnt only in the temple with thrawn, it was also in the very 1st episode when ahsoka finds the map the inside and where the map was found, the puzzle she had to solve to get the map all the way down to the layout of the room etc is very reminiscent of fallen order and the zeffo temples.......
I think the reference to the zeffo is a red herring. In other words a false trail and it's going to be revealed to be abeloth
LMAO abeloth will never return
It would be great if them using assets from fallen order.
I really hope they make Vitiate/Valkorian canon
It's possible, but if they do I see them turning Kujet into the new version.
@@Mulcam29yes kujet as New vitiate would be cool as fuck❤
You're not going to mention how even Malicos was also drawn to the power there?
"There's power there power beyond jedi understanding"-Malicos
If you study the face of Kujet and Snoke they look similar maybe palpatine used Kujet dna to make Snoke. Palpatine often spoke of a energy calling him from the unknown regions! Perhaps Kujet discovered immortality and perhaps darth plagueis learned this secret from him
Wouldn't it be ironic like in swtor a sith spirit reincarnation with the emperor, and palpatine is the reincarnated kujat
@@JamesKawamuraanother thing I noticed was Baylon has a gold ring that looks a lot like Snokes made out of gold and obsidian maybe these are relics of Kujet
How come eveyone is going to the zeffo or aboloth. Not one video has been done on another option. The grysk. In the both of the new Thrawn trilogies it seems theyre being set up as the new yuuzhan vong. So couldnt it be that this is the galaxy that the grysk are coming from? That they've used most of this new galaxies resources? Hence why Thrawn and last remaining nightsisters want to leave.
A curious theory. We'll see if it comes true.
Nope, Kujet was corrupted by The Mother. Peridia is a world where things go to die. Kujet no different than any other beings.
So Abeloth and now Kujet?
this is a pretty out there theory imo
As I stated before, the Zeffo had a history on Peridia and the Night Sisters with the Zeffo; on Peridia and Dathomir. However, the Sith also have a history on Peridia, but without a connection to the Night Sisters or Zeffo. As they went on to Pesegam (Moraband and Korriban). Long before the mixing of Sith with other species.
My theory lies more towards this being a nexus of sort within the force, one of beginning or perhaps choice; especially to those with a certain ambition or mission, but not necessarily an ambition of absolute power and control.
Think more COSMIC FORCE... and less Living Force. Which may be difficult for some to wrap in their mind.
The Night Sisters likely flee it, because they do not have ambition nor do they respect it as they should. They may even see it as more ancient Jedi in nature, than in Dark Side. One of balance, which they certainly would not condone. It may even consider the Night Sisters as having corrupted the force. Mixing in other things, as did ancient Sith Alchemists.
I won't go on further with my conclusions, since there are 3 I've come up with which take too long to go through. Also, what I figure is the most likely is also the most boring and leaves us wanting.
I could say a 4th theory, but it's too crazy, yet it's really good for Sabine.
It’s nothing but a shoutout, that’s it.
Definitely a better theory than Abeloth, but still doesn't quite add up in my mind.
What if those bone boxes that the witches have are actually filled with croaked zeffo instead of witches ?
They need to get back to the known galaxy to find enough bodies for their spirits to hop into so that the zeffo can live again.
I'm a "very observant acolyte!"
Cool stuff
Wow, if they bring Kujet in this... sheesh. We all know how he husked his people.
We love you Ray Stevenson!!
There were three rulers of the Zeffo right? It just made me think of the three gods of Mortis too…
Has anyone read the writing from the Mortis Episodes
How's this? His spirit is in an object, say a helmet or neck wear or cloak and his spirit is calling out, like Darth Momin did, and as soon as it is put on, his spirit will take complete control of the body and he will live again! And then he will be free to reign over two galaxies and change the past, present and future! Maybe he will stop Darth Sidious before he can start using Snoke to bother Ben Solo and end the new circle of Sith vs Jedi before Darth Sidious can cause any trouble and reset the timeline to make the Legends timeline the future!
They call me the Darth Fuccer
I must find this theme they use for the videos I will one day 😢😂😂😂😂I know I'm not the only one
I must find it too.
@@sauron6064 i keep asking lmao they keeping that shit a secret like the real order 66 😭
The planet appearing from space seems so desolate and alone. Maybe the civilizations in that galaxy out lived themselves, and that’s why they wanna get outta there.
I wonder how Dave is going to retcon what was established in fallen order.
Does thrown thinks his uniform commands people?
Bring Asajj back via resurrection by the Night Sisters. Also, was Snoke a Zeffo clone by Palpatine (Kujet looks like Snoke)?
Didn't the Rakata make the Zabrok race, could the Zeffo have made the Nighteisters
Anyone else think that skul looked like Valkorion during the episode ?!?! This is my prediction on who/what is calling to him
Tenebrae’s spirits gonna hop jump skip to a new host
True man. Tenebrae is the father of the sith and his canon identity is lord kujet ❤❤❤
Somehow Kujet returned
hey ... why does the dead Kujet look an awful lot like Snoke ? Besides snoke also being way bigger then a human? I always wonderd why a failed palpatine clone would be almost twice the size. But if you trown Kujet into the mix ..... What if Kujet tomb on Peridia IS what's needed to clone Palpatine; is also what's calling Baylan; is also why Ezra is trying to keep everybody stranded on Peridia even tough he could have left with the purgils...with Snoke as a failed cloning experiment; this means Trawn's return with the nightsisters (and possibly future exegol necromancers) sets the stage for the rise of palpatine ... and actually ties everything nicely together. All we need is for Baylan, Shin, Ahsoka, Sabine and Ezra to either stay on Peridia or die; because they don't appear later in the story.
Tying everything nicely is still not going to fix the fact that TROS is a bad payoff. Imagine if all these shows were coming out before the sequels and we got Endgame-level hype for them based on speculation?
Kujet has wares if you have coin
Has anyone considered that some lazy computer graphics techs just reused some assets? Cut up some images and turned them upside down to keep them from being easily recognized.
I'm still miffed they replaced the Rakatan empire from SWTOR with Zeffo.
They reference the Rakatans in Andor a few times
The rakatas are still canon
Omg I forgot about the zeffo🤦🏾♂️😭
Tahiri Veila when?
Ok so can we just bring Anakin back to life please. IDC that he should be a grandpa bring him back as Hayden Christianson
It IS a cyklus. Without the jedis (in the Old form) there Will be no sith. A new Way of being jedi? Maybe?
It better not be Abeloth. That would be such a waste as it would make thrawn feel like a nothing bad guy. Also the show is Ahsoka so unless she becomes the leader in taking on Abeloth then Abeloth would just steal the show from everyone
Ok again i have read most of the novels and comics and have done tons of deep dive rabbit hole looks into Star wars legends and canon I don’t remember a Sith language decipher code or book do you find that on learning new languages app wtf
Being honest I’m going to be very disappointed if it’s just the Zeffo. Abeloth is the best option
I still hope it’s abeloth
It's not the Zeffo it's Obviously Abeloth; what's up with all The Disney Insurgents trying to Twist Shite!?
Hello there
Interesting
Day 256 of asking for a part 3 of what if anakin was trained by qui gon
Lets gooooo
Not first woot!!
Tonights episode was rather lackluster to say the least, giving me boring mando season 3 vibes 😅
Look im a huge Star wars nerd but really how do you even learn to decipher the fine print on the walls wtf let me guess there are super fans that claim they can speak Wookie and Ewok huh
I don't know why I watch these since none of them are never correct.... empty media
NNNNNNOOOOOOO
Chozo better than zeffo
I got a theory. Zeffo is what they called themselves and Rakahta is what everyone else calls them.
What about the different appearance and physiology?
@@baki484 Official cannon nobody knows how Rakahta looks like. So they could look like Zeffo.
@@armchairwarrior963 If they are bringing back the Rakahta they will most likely use their appearance from legends.
Didn’t you say it was Abeloth? Now it’s the things from Jedi Fallen order. Y’all don’t even know. Just watch it