@@DobleDDDit really doesn't. These things y'all are talking about are negligible at best, especially in the case of the music where it was compressed in the final versions of the game. As far as Sonic's art is concerned, the Final version is larger because it also possesses the Super Sonic art, and a few other sprites not in the prototype.
Fun fact: if you play the FB track, the music will play as if Sonic broke the monitor with the boots. And now try to distinguish the tracks of invincibility or Hill Top, accelerated in this way, with the final analogues.
@@Margulan217 Просто дублировал факт на английский язык. В прототипе Simon Wai, 21 August значение SoundTest FB ускоряет треки. При этом треки Hill Top и тема непобедимости (супер-тема) начинают звучать как финальные аналоги по скорости.
honestly sounds more like the chill bar nexto the casino, it works as like an act 1 or a more chill version of the stage imo. i like both versions, they both give the vibe of a casino or club at night.
Rock world and sand shower and tropical plant is kinda is but their zones id are Rock world / ice / snowy winter= 09 Sand shower / dust hill / desert / desert world = 03 tropical plant / tropical sun / tropical summer (the zone id may be 06
It's really cool to listen to the same songs I remember from Sonic 2, but re-imagining different levels that they were originally meant to be in as they're playing. I can definitely hear Oil Ocean's music making more sense in a desert-themed zone. It also answers that decades-long question regarding why the 2P mode has different music for Emerald Hill Zone, Casino Night Zone and Mystic Cave. It's because some of those are pieces of music that were meant for cut stages, but were already programmed into the game. xD ..... and of course, Hill Top always had the same music. No surprise there, lmao.
There's a duplicate of Hill Top in the ID list, noting there was a deleted track and that the first version falls into the secondary track. Hill Top uses this fallback ID, so that may not be the intended song for the zone 🤔
Heres some stuff i probably know: Sonic’s walking animation removed some frames in the final game to save memory (this probably counts with other old songs) Green hill zone doesnt work in sonic 2 because it doesnt use the same collision detector as sonic 1 Ok thats it byeeg
Zone 09 is rock world and its an ice stage. And wood zone is supost to use metropolis zones theme. zone 03 is sand shower. Zone 06 is tropical sun/plant.
As stated in the video, Metropolis being the Wood Zone music was a mistake, more specifically a sonic 1 leftover. The ID the song uses is 83. Wood Zone's zone ID is 02. In Sonic 1, Marble Zone's zone ID is 02, and uses music 83. It is a Sonic 1 leftover.
I think the zone order in sonic 2 was sopost to be green hill, ocean wind, wood, sand shower, metropolis, tropical plant/sun, hill top, blue lake/blue ocean, rock world, rock world again, oil ocean, dust hill, casino night, chemical plant, cyber city 1, cyber city 2, and death egg. In the world map art there's no emrild isle, mountain madness, neo green hill, and hidden palace. In game neo green hill is in the spot of cyber city 2. Hidden palace is in the prototype. And there's a place called Olympus, idk what that zone is. Blue lake has the 2 player mystic caves theme, and emrilde isle, may of used neo green hills theme, and mountain madness used one of the three, 2 player casino night, I think unused 10, and idk hill top, dust hill, neo green hill.
Bops playlist: 20:20 when your playing sonic two prototype and you hear this bop after act 2 21:40 when you accidentally got level select and selected this thing and you hear this bop of a music 24:52 when you play "sky" fortress accidentally and this bop plays 26:36 *f o o d s o n g* 29:32 super sonic bop 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯 30:21 *d r u n k* 32:08 definitely not sonic 1 title screen music
Wood zone's Soundtrack was Metropolis Zone But Mistakenly Its Actually Emerald Hill 2P Soundtrack , Just Got a Little Trouble Of Playing Soundtracks Of Each Zone
Creo que la música beta de Oil Ocean es realmente la música de Genocide / Ciber City Zone, la pista n ° 06 Wood Zone y la segunda versión se puede escuchar de la música real de Oil Ocean es de Sand Shower
Interesting how they changed EHZ after simon wai, perhaps they didn't like how it sounded or was simply incomplete, the later versions did have an extra FM patch added for the (squeaky?) bits and some note changes iirc
Actually mystic cave was never called dust hill it is named dust hill in the Simon wai prototype cuz it probably would be the slot for the dust hill and then they reused it for mystic cave but forgot to change the name
The September 14th prototype shatters that theory because they specifically made a Dust Hill title card for the zone in that proto which basically means it was a name for the zone.
@turbulation377 That's not it. That Title Card itself was a placeholder. Dust Hill, Green Hill and Neo Green Hill, all had their names and title card changed pretty quickly, so I personally don't believe that counts. But I also can't say what Mystic Cave was other than its concept being of a haunted house, and the mockup shows Dust Hill as a mountain site close to Oil Ocean on the Bad Present. I still don't know what Dust Hill was, probably they just reused the level slot, and made a spooky cave, and just for the og concept. The original Masa's melody didn't particularly suggest it was for a cave level or anything.
If Metropolis’ theme is mistakenly used for Wood Zone as well, do we know what theme would have been used for Wood Zone then or if it was ever even composed?
@@shyguy85 Sky Chase was not part of the original level plan, really it was a last minute addition. It's only up to speculation what the track was actually used for, but there's no concrete evidence on what it really was.
I don't know if it's just me, but I can't hear a difference in the credits theme from the September 14th build. If someone can identify the difference, let me know.
Me neither. I compared both the September 14th credits theme and the final credits theme side by side and I couldn't tell a difference. I even compared the lengths of both songs, and they're both 2 minutes 40 seconds. It might be worth using a spectrogram on both songs or comparing them in more detail with some sort of tool.
![NOSFERATU - Official Trailer [HD] - Only In Theaters December 25](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/nulvWqYUM8k/mqdefault.jpg)
I love how hard Aquatic Ruin beta hits
@Ikey Ilex it was probably changed for storage/memory reasons
@Ikey Ilex sonic’s running animation had more frames in this prototype, so it probably took up a little space too.
@@DobleDDDit really doesn't. These things y'all are talking about are negligible at best, especially in the case of the music where it was compressed in the final versions of the game.
As far as Sonic's art is concerned, the Final version is larger because it also possesses the Super Sonic art, and a few other sprites not in the prototype.
Fun fact: zone 09 music is meant for an ice zone, zone 03 is meant for sand shower and zone 06 is meant for tropical plant
source?
@@CKDEV ruclips.net/video/74wRhQXhIZ8/видео.html here's the evidence
@@CKDEV This was simply a theory someone named "Collision Chaos Radio" has made. There's no actual evidence that these are for those levels.
Well, but 06 might be the leftover ending zone from sonic 1
@@henryd3bby It's not the same music ID. In SW's zone 06, it uses a duplicate casino night palette, but not sure about the other data just yet.
Fun fact: if you play the FB track, the music will play as if Sonic broke the monitor with the boots. And now try to distinguish the tracks of invincibility or Hill Top, accelerated in this way, with the final analogues.
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@@Margulan217 Просто дублировал факт на английский язык. В прототипе Simon Wai, 21 August значение SoundTest FB ускоряет треки. При этом треки Hill Top и тема непобедимости (супер-тема) начинают звучать как финальные аналоги по скорости.
What's fb
Sound ID FB, a hexadecimal number.
welp now i have background music for the next 35 minutes of my life
Oh ok
Edit did I ask
@@lanameeks3112ok
Edit nobody cares about what you have to say
@@lanameeks3112thats not even an edit
@@wunluvv21fr
@@wunluvv21yes it's not edited lmao
i love beta casino night zone's theme! it slaps!
honestly sounds more like the chill bar nexto the casino, it works as like an act 1 or a more chill version of the stage imo. i like both versions, they both give the vibe of a casino or club at night.
03 = Sand Shower zone
06 = Tropical Plant
09 = Rock World
thats because it is
Man, I wish those were in the final. But it's not in any proto
Rock world and sand shower and tropical plant is kinda is but their zones id are
Rock world / ice / snowy winter= 09
Sand shower / dust hill / desert / desert world = 03
tropical plant / tropical sun / tropical summer (the zone id may be 06
It's really cool to listen to the same songs I remember from Sonic 2, but re-imagining different levels that they were originally meant to be in as they're playing. I can definitely hear Oil Ocean's music making more sense in a desert-themed zone.
It also answers that decades-long question regarding why the 2P mode has different music for Emerald Hill Zone, Casino Night Zone and Mystic Cave. It's because some of those are pieces of music that were meant for cut stages, but were already programmed into the game. xD
..... and of course, Hill Top always had the same music. No surprise there, lmao.
There's a duplicate of Hill Top in the ID list, noting there was a deleted track and that the first version falls into the secondary track. Hill Top uses this fallback ID, so that may not be the intended song for the zone 🤔
Fact:Sky chase music was supposed to be a ice level and supposed to be added for a transportation for Desert zone
Not a fact, rather a theory. Please stop spreading theories as fact.
Am I the only one who actually thinks the old boss is better then the new one?
No I think its sick
The old boss is a bop 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
We killin' the boss with this one 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
20:21
No
We all have different opinions
@@RayaneBslm ok
Heres some stuff i probably know:
Sonic’s walking animation removed some frames in the final game to save memory (this probably counts with other old songs)
Green hill zone doesnt work in sonic 2 because it doesnt use the same collision detector as sonic 1
Ok thats it byeeg
Zone 09 is rock world and its an ice stage. And wood zone is supost to use metropolis zones theme. zone 03 is sand shower. Zone 06 is tropical sun/plant.
20:20 boss beta song>final
I can see that if the game kept the time travel plot that proto metropolis could be the song in the final and final metropolis could be wood zone
As stated in the video, Metropolis being the Wood Zone music was a mistake, more specifically a sonic 1 leftover.
The ID the song uses is 83. Wood Zone's zone ID is 02. In Sonic 1, Marble Zone's zone ID is 02, and uses music 83. It is a Sonic 1 leftover.
I think the zone order in sonic 2 was sopost to be green hill, ocean wind, wood, sand shower, metropolis, tropical plant/sun, hill top, blue lake/blue ocean, rock world, rock world again, oil ocean, dust hill, casino night, chemical plant, cyber city 1, cyber city 2, and death egg. In the world map art there's no emrild isle, mountain madness, neo green hill, and hidden palace. In game neo green hill is in the spot of cyber city 2. Hidden palace is in the prototype. And there's a place called Olympus, idk what that zone is. Blue lake has the 2 player mystic caves theme, and emrilde isle, may of used neo green hills theme, and mountain madness used one of the three, 2 player casino night, I think unused 10, and idk hill top, dust hill, neo green hill.
Sweet Video! Used to play your older video a lot at school, this is way better!
Bops playlist: 20:20 when your playing sonic two prototype and you hear this bop after act 2
21:40 when you accidentally got level select and selected this thing and you hear this bop of a music
24:52 when you play "sky" fortress accidentally and this bop plays
26:36 *f o o d s o n g*
29:32 super sonic bop 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯
30:21 *d r u n k*
32:08 definitely not sonic 1 title screen music
Food song music: Food, food, food, I'm going to eat some food. I just threw up
@@jacobsworld3014 fr
Hill top beta sounds like drunk music 💀
2012 called they want sky fortress back ! ( Sonic 4 joke )
I imagine tails is not stupid in the special stage but he just cant see when your in the way of his view
Imagine being invincible in Simon Wai and the super sonic music shows up.
35 minutes of Sonic 2 Prototype music... Lmao.
Yes it is lol
23:09 sounds more oily than the final
This is the only prototype without proto palace’s music.
No
32:51 i love how the sonic 1 invincible theme is remixed
Wood zone's Soundtrack was Metropolis Zone But Mistakenly Its Actually Emerald Hill 2P Soundtrack , Just Got a Little Trouble Of Playing Soundtracks Of Each Zone
@ELDAVISRABIS yeah
it never even had a theme
Creo que la música beta de Oil Ocean es realmente la música de Genocide / Ciber City Zone, la pista n ° 06 Wood Zone y la segunda versión se puede escuchar de la música real de Oil Ocean es de Sand Shower
Actually oil ocean beta music is real oil ocean track
I think the desert level screenshot is Dust Hill, and Sand Shower was some beach themed level that we haven't seen.
No, it's the other way around, Sand Shower Zone is the desert level and Dust Hill Zone is the beach level or Mystic Cave Zone
WE'RE MAKIN' IT OUT OF THE SONIC 2 BETA WITH THIS ONE 🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣
Interesting how they changed EHZ after simon wai, perhaps they didn't like how it sounded or was simply incomplete, the later versions did have an extra FM patch added for the (squeaky?) bits and some note changes iirc
Oil Ocean does not have casino night 2p music in the final game it has its own music
It does here, which is why it's listed that way.
Metropolis zone goes hard
To be honest i like the metropolis zone music here, it sounds alot more like, mechanical like?
Zone ID 01 = OCEAN WIND ZONE
Zone ID 03 = SAND SHOWER ZONE
Zone ID 06 = TROPICAL PLANT ZONE
Zone ID 08 = BLUE OCEAN ZONE
Zone ID 09 = ROCK WORLD ZONE
THEY SHOULDVE KEPT PROTO CASINO NIGHT
Actually mystic cave was never called dust hill it is named dust hill in the Simon wai prototype cuz it probably would be the slot for the dust hill and then they reused it for mystic cave but forgot to change the name
The September 14th prototype shatters that theory because they specifically made a Dust Hill title card for the zone in that proto which basically means it was a name for the zone.
@turbulation377 That's not it. That Title Card itself was a placeholder. Dust Hill, Green Hill and Neo Green Hill, all had their names and title card changed pretty quickly, so I personally don't believe that counts. But I also can't say what Mystic Cave was other than its concept being of a haunted house, and the mockup shows Dust Hill as a mountain site close to Oil Ocean on the Bad Present. I still don't know what Dust Hill was, probably they just reused the level slot, and made a spooky cave, and just for the og concept. The original Masa's melody didn't particularly suggest it was for a cave level or anything.
If Metropolis’ theme is mistakenly used for Wood Zone as well, do we know what theme would have been used for Wood Zone then or if it was ever even composed?
There is no known theme officially assigned to Wood.
wood zone has a similar vibe to spring yard imo
Fact:If there is Desert and Winter Zone shouldn't there be a Spring Zone and Autumn Zone?🤨
Could chemical plant be a alternate of geniocide city
Does anyone else hear Robotnik’s scream from spinball in emerald hill
09 is for some kind of snow level. Not technically confirmed... But come on, you can hear the christmas leimotif in the background
This is only a theory, there's no actual evidence it was used for a winter themed level.
@@MDTravisYT yeah but why would they have the Christmas leimotif in a sky level
@@shyguy85 Sky Chase was not part of the original level plan, really it was a last minute addition. It's only up to speculation what the track was actually used for, but there's no concrete evidence on what it really was.
@@MDTravisYThe said not technically confirmed
What is Unused 94 though, Ocean Wind?
It's used in the final as the results music in 2 player mode.
@@MDTravisYT Yah i know the music is for that but what was the level for?
@@RylieCoombe It is unconfirmed if it's level music or not, but for all we know it's just results music, just like the unused Sonic 3 song.
Yes
I believe its Wood Zone,if it is,that means we dont got musics for Ocean Wind and Cyber City.
cool
Rip MCTravis
Hi MDTravis
L am like dust hill zone song so fire
I don't know if it's just me, but I can't hear a difference in the credits theme from the September 14th build. If someone can identify the difference, let me know.
Me neither. I compared both the September 14th credits theme and the final credits theme side by side and I couldn't tell a difference. I even compared the lengths of both songs, and they're both 2 minutes 40 seconds. It might be worth using a spectrogram on both songs or comparing them in more detail with some sort of tool.
Even the music from the Ending Cutscene and Hidden Palace Alpha build is unused but it’s the same.
11:19
Umm ok
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@@maximumcrystal3562 I love music
@@Thatsonicfan2024 what
@@maximumcrystal3562 beta original and remix
@@Thatsonicfan2024 you are not human
K
i think hill top is SLIGHTLY slower then the final
It plays at a slower tempo, yes.
oh thx for clarafying@@MDTravisYT