The bit they don’t mention is that those bridges and viaducts not only still carry trains but carry trains that are much faster and heavier than anything that could have been imagined in the 1830s and 1840s.
As an American I must say that is is fortunate these historic sites have been preserved, unlike in America where so many historic buildings have been torn down to make way for parking lots. Nevertheless, we have come a long way since the 60's and 70's.
Kinda off the subject, but, In 1988 or so, I think it was the Flying Scotsman, they took it to Australia and tried to unload it on the East coast, but it was too heavy, so they took it to a heavy crane on the West coast and unloaded it. Then drove it to the East! Now, on Brittany, south of you folks is a 390 ton standing stone, cut into a shape many girls still drool over. It was moved something like 70 miles and STOOD up! It is 30 tons heavier then the loco. Damn, I'm proud of my Blue eyes and Celtic extraction!
Since this documentary was filmed Darlingtons Skerne Railway Bridge that was featured in the £5 note has been made much more accessible by foot asapublick footpath has been extended to run under one of the bridge’s side arches and the whole area tidied up. It’s is very pretty and if anyone comes to Darlington in search of the bridge then it is yards away from North Rd Station. If you exit the National Rail part of NorthRd Station (there is only one exit ftr) then cross the busy North Rd and walk down a cycle and public footpath almost opposite the stations exit then you will eventually arrive just a few feet from the bridge which was built in 1824 by Ignatius Bonomi. Please do not confuse the bridge on NorthRd itself as the Skerne Bridge. You must walk along the Got and cycle path for a few hundred yards to reach the river Skerne where you will see the Bridge that featured on the £5 note in all its glory. I’d recommend a visit to the bridge if you’re ever in Darlington and also I’d recommend visiting Head Of Steam Railway Museum situated at North Rd Station.
I recall in 1959 flying to Prestwick, then on a bus with children speaking a strange language, and then a train down to London. It had to be steam because I felt the stuff so I closed the window,:)
It's pretty cool that Heighington now has the Hitachi train factory. I wonder if the pub sees more business now ? I visited the station in 1980 and it was all derelict.
Excellent vid, thanks very much. I don't like the way some of the commentators made out people in the early days were stupid to think going to fast might cause health problems. That's what they knew then, they don't have the advantage of us looking back from the beginning of the 21C. Every age has it's fears and delusions. Anyway, I enjoyed this very much. Didn't know that the Napoleonic wars (and the subsequent lack of horses) were a stimulus to develop the steam locomotive.
it's always the North York Moors or the Stockton and Darlington, but what about the working lines that ran like the Consett to Tyne which served so many villages and towns throughout the North-East.
It's fine they want to bang on about the Stockton & Darlington Railway, but they should mention the Woodhead line too if so, from Sheffield Victoria to Manchester London Road (renamed Piccadilly).
What about Shildon the Stockton and Darlington railway didn't end at Darlington The train that's in the picture of the Skerne bridge actually was boarded and set of from Shildon at the Mason's arms crossing
Please don't be misled - the world's first “public” railway was NOT the Stockton & Darlington. It was preceded by the Surrey Iron Railway and the Croydon, Merstham & Godstone Railway and much of the route of the SIR is now served by trams, and the main line to Brighton follows some of the CM&GR. Please don’t be misled, the world’s first public railway was NOT the Stockton & Darlington.Subject to the above, I have been pleased to give this film ‘thumbs up’.
The Dublin and Kingstown railway began operations in 1834, and was the first passenger commuter line anywhere. Almost every station on the line is still in use today, updated with the required accessibilities for the 21st century. Aspects of the original buildings are also still in use.
inquisitor229 the first ever Train was in South Wales. Richard Trevithick designed Pen-Y-Darren and ran from Merthyr Tydfil to Abercynon in 1804. And went 20mph. And, and. Steam locomotives were designed to carry freight first.
The information in this at 24 minutes is wrong, Manchester Liverpool Road station was not the worlds first passenger railway station. Liverpool Crown Street station, although no longer there was the first station as the first train started there and the Duke of Wellington opening that first.
lost railways chose to film darlington after the council destroyed its original Stockton to darlington line. if they filmed before the corridor road was built it was an actual footpath with all of the original features of pre war, industrial & Victorian railway
It's not the Stockton TO Darlington Railway, it is the Stockton AND Darlington Railway, which ran from Witton Park Near Bishop Auckland to Stockton, I wish these so called historians would get it right.
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Oh you have to facepalm when Richard Wimbury jettisons all his credibility when he says against all fact that he likes to think North Road is the oldest operating train station in the world... Factually it was all going so well up until that point, but you can always count on someone from Darlington making some bollox up about how they are the masters of the universe and invented sunlight and fire.
Had it not been for Dr Beeching's report and the subsequent closure of so many railway lines, the rail and steam preservation movement would have had nothing to preserve.
Andy Coakes Oh Doctor Beeching what have you done? There were a lot of trains to ride but soon there will be none. I'll have to buy a bike as I can't afford a car...oh Doctor Beeching what a naughty man you are!' His influence permeated outside the United Kingdom, unfortunately. The line from Beenleigh, Australia to Southport on the "Gold Coast" was closed in 1964, despite massive objections. By 1996 it was rebuilt on a new alignment, fully electrified and extended by several km in 2009.
+Andy Coakes If we had today the railway network we had in 1955 I am quite sure our society would be very much different - in many better ways. What Beeching did wasn't destroy a railway network, but destroy a society and a communal or cultural way of life.
+ShizukuSeiji Beeching is a convenient scapegoat for (a) Ernest Marples, a Tory Minister of Transport, (who had conveniently placed his Road Building firm in his wife's hands so he couldn't be accused of vested interest...that's ok then), (b) The British Transport Commission and British Railways Board, who by the mid fifties had already squandered the funding provided for railway modernisation and were looking for yet more funding, plus (c) successive governments from both left and right wings, who didn't want to foot the bill for subsidising hugely unsuccessful lines. Many of the lines/stations closed had gone before he even set foot in the boardroom, and many more were shut after he'd gone. He was put in place specifically to do an axe job...instead he did the first genuine overall analysis (unbelievable - but there were no proper complete records/analyses available until he had surveys organised) into which lines/stations actually produced a profit and which a loss...it transpired that a tiny part of the system produced most of the profit...and conversely a huge part of the system lost money...in many cases always had. Unsatisfied with this, he also had his team research which segments of the organisation could be promoted into a structure which might, with investment, be run without subsidy (eg the Railfreight container trade and certain more marginal passenger operations). He then produced not one, but TWO Beeching reports, the blue book containing the analysis of existing traffic and possible cuts...the second being the orange book containing a list of investments, which if made, could preserve and expand at least a freight trade on a larger network. There was also a complete and comprehensive set of appendices. Guess which book ALL the following governments followed, and which they scrimped on, doing too little and far too late? (Incidentally, anyone who has not read both these reports and the appendices, in my honest opinion, really has no place criticising Doctor Beeching at all). Another factor of course is that Beeching himself didn't, (and couldn't), cut any railway lines...each was established by Act of Parliament, and had to be dissolved by Act of Parliament, (eg read up on the Bluebell Railway and Mrs Bessemer), so only an elected Parliament could cut back any railway line...and contrary to much well-publicised bullshit, they all did... I'm not a Tory, nor paricularly a Beeching supporter, but I personally believe he was an honourable and honest businessman who fulfilled his duties as well as he could, and it's a disgrace his name has been so maligned by so many sickeningly sloping-shouldered bastards, particularly in Westminster...
Beeching was a hero. He closed down uneconomic lines and ensured that polluting steam locos were cut up for scrap. He saved the country money and pollution.
In the main, the Beeching axe was right for the time. However, the tragedy of it was that the closed lines were not moth-balled. Had they been, many of those lines would be becoming viable again now for environmentally friendly and efficient automated light rail... & the Grand Central Mainline would be a fair chunk of HS2 ready built.
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Why can not incompetent researchers get their facts correct. The Stockton and Darlington Railway WAS NOT the First Public Railway and not Even the First Steam Railway as they used Horse and Steam haulage at first. The First Public Railway was the Swansea and Mumbles Oystermouth Railway opened in March 1807, using Horses till 1877, then Horse and steam till it was operated by Overhead Double Deck Trams from 1929 until final closure in Jan 1960. The true first all 'Steam Railway was the Liverpool to Manchester in 1830.
peter buckley I think you'll find that the Middleton Railway is older, opening in1758, and was the first railway granted powers by Act of Parliament. It waxalso the first railway to successfully use steam locomotives. The Surrey Iron Railway was the first public railway opening in 1802. The first publically subscribed railway was the Stockton and Darlington railway, which was also the first public railway to used locomotives initially only for freight (coal). Passenger trains started on 10th October 1825, less than a month after the line opened. The passenger services were all horse drawn until 1833 when steam took over all trains.
It’s not the worlds first railway BUT IT IS the worlds first passenger railway. There had been a Railway in Darlington before 1825 running from Shildon (near Bishop Auckland) to Darlington. The line to Stockton was just an extension of that.
I don’t know where you got this information from Martin. The whole length of the Stockton and Darlington Railway from Witton Park near Bishop Auckland through Shildon then to Darlington and onto Stockton was opened in 1825, there was never a railway running in Darlington from Shildon before 1825.
Kinda off the subject, but, In 1988 or so, I think it was the Flying Scotsman, they took it to Australia and tried to unload it on the East coast, but it was too heavy, so they took it to a heavy crane on the West coast and unloaded it. Then drove it to the East! Now, on Brittany, south of you folks is a 390 ton standing stone, cut into a shape many girls still drool over. It was moved something like 70 miles and STOOD up! It is 30 tons heavier then the loco. Damn, I'm proud of my Blue eyes and Celtic extraction!
The bit they don’t mention is that those bridges and viaducts not only still carry trains but carry trains that are much faster and heavier than anything that could have been imagined in the 1830s and 1840s.
As an American I must say that is is fortunate these historic sites have been preserved, unlike in America where so many historic buildings have been torn down to make way for parking lots. Nevertheless, we have come a long way since the 60's and 70's.
Lovely…“The journey has its own lyrics
A duet of balanced motion
The rails and wheels in tune “🚂
Great Content 👍
Very very nice documentary about steam era in England ,And music is soothing ,and matching to the that old era
It's really hard to have a favourite BR region. Each has its own character and flavour which none of the others can match
The old station in York was still in use 88 years after it closed as a station; its tracks were used as carriage sidings.
It has been trashed by York City Council who have turned it into their HQ. All history has been removed.
That's a proper rail video.
Kinda off the subject, but, In 1988 or so, I think it was the Flying Scotsman, they took it to Australia and tried to unload it on the East coast, but it was too heavy, so they took it to a heavy crane on the West coast and unloaded it. Then drove it to the East! Now, on Brittany, south of you folks is a 390 ton standing stone, cut into a shape many girls still drool over. It was moved something like 70 miles and STOOD up! It is 30 tons heavier then the loco. Damn, I'm proud of my Blue eyes and Celtic extraction!
Since this documentary was filmed Darlingtons Skerne Railway Bridge that was featured in the £5 note has been made much more accessible by foot asapublick footpath has been extended to run under one of the bridge’s side arches and the whole area tidied up.
It’s is very pretty and if anyone comes to Darlington in search of the bridge then it is yards away from North Rd Station.
If you exit the National Rail part of NorthRd Station (there is only one exit ftr) then cross the busy North Rd and walk down a cycle and public footpath almost opposite the stations exit then you will eventually arrive just a few feet from the bridge which was built in 1824 by Ignatius Bonomi.
Please do not confuse the bridge on NorthRd itself as the Skerne Bridge. You must walk along the Got and cycle path for a few hundred yards to reach the river Skerne where you will see the Bridge that featured on the £5 note in all its glory.
I’d recommend a visit to the bridge if you’re ever in Darlington and also I’d recommend visiting Head Of Steam Railway Museum situated at North Rd Station.
Lovely, well-put-together vid - thank you very much!
Lol your gay
The first public railway in the North West, was bolton to leigh !
Delightful video..
I recall in 1959 flying to Prestwick, then on a bus with children speaking a strange language, and then a train down to London. It had to be steam because I felt the stuff so I closed the window,:)
It's pretty cool that Heighington now has the Hitachi train factory. I wonder if the pub sees more business now ? I visited the station in 1980 and it was all derelict.
"That bridge" is Causey Arch located between Sunniside and Stanley
Very interesting, thanks for sharing!!!
Excellent vid, thanks very much.
I don't like the way some of the commentators made out people in the early days were stupid to think going to fast might cause health problems. That's what they knew then, they don't have the advantage of us looking back from the beginning of the 21C. Every age has it's fears and delusions.
Anyway, I enjoyed this very much. Didn't know that the Napoleonic wars (and the subsequent lack of horses) were a stimulus to develop the steam locomotive.
You're way too oversensitive. People were scared. They were stupid to be. So what?? Do you feel personally insulted or something?
+Alastair Gray Well, it was new technology at the time. These were the first non-horsedrawn... Anything that most of the public had seen.
@@alastairgray5648 well said.
it's always the North York Moors or the Stockton and Darlington, but what about the working lines that ran like the Consett to Tyne which served so many villages and towns throughout the North-East.
Very imformative
It's fine they want to bang on about the Stockton & Darlington Railway, but they should mention the Woodhead line too if so, from Sheffield Victoria to Manchester London Road (renamed Piccadilly).
What about Shildon the Stockton and Darlington railway didn't end at Darlington
The train that's in the picture of the Skerne bridge actually was boarded and set of from Shildon at the Mason's arms crossing
North Road is not the oldest railway station in operation still today, one of the oldest yes. Padova station is from 1842 too...
Please don't be misled - the world's first “public” railway was NOT the Stockton &
Darlington.
It was preceded by the Surrey Iron Railway and the Croydon, Merstham & Godstone Railway
and much of the route of the SIR is now served by trams, and the main line to Brighton
follows some of the CM&GR.
Please don’t
be misled, the world’s first public railway was NOT the Stockton &
Darlington.Subject to the above, I have been
pleased to give this film ‘thumbs up’.
The Dublin and Kingstown railway began operations in 1834, and was the first passenger commuter line anywhere. Almost every station on the line is still in use today, updated with the required accessibilities for the 21st century. Aspects of the original buildings are also still in use.
inquisitor229 the first ever Train was in South Wales. Richard Trevithick designed Pen-Y-Darren and ran from Merthyr Tydfil to Abercynon in 1804. And went 20mph. And, and. Steam locomotives were designed to carry freight first.
The information in this at 24 minutes is wrong, Manchester Liverpool Road station was not the worlds first passenger railway station.
Liverpool Crown Street station, although no longer there was the first station as the first train started there and the Duke of Wellington opening that first.
This is pretty poggers
lost railways chose to film darlington after the council destroyed its original Stockton to darlington line. if they filmed before the corridor road was built it was an actual footpath with all of the original features of pre war, industrial & Victorian railway
The Silloth line should be reinstated!
It would reinvigorate the area and cut down on rad travel!
A fraction of th money to be spent on HS2!
It's not the Stockton TO Darlington Railway, it is the Stockton AND Darlington Railway, which ran from Witton Park Near Bishop Auckland to Stockton, I wish these so called historians would get it right.
ALAN HINDMARCH
Well said sir
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It's strange to see people living in the past while the present is so obviously going the way of the dodo...
Up the Brits, and the railways.
Not a mention of Richard Trevithick. Whoever researched this favoured Stephenson not fact.
38:00 I call it the cheese grater cause it looks like a cheese grater😂😂
Parts look like a model train setup.
Why isn't Richard Trevithick mentioned here?
John Smith because the film title is "Lost railways - The North". Trevithick had little or no influence on those railways.
Brian Barratt no the Romans did, and they weren't mentioned either.
They were in the opening....
Oh you have to facepalm when Richard Wimbury jettisons all his credibility when he says against all fact that he likes to think North Road is the oldest operating train station in the world... Factually it was all going so well up until that point, but you can always count on someone from Darlington making some bollox up about how they are the masters of the universe and invented sunlight and fire.
@Mike B eerr no, I'm not. The whole thing is full of North East fiction. It was not first at anything.
Where can I have a list of music used here?
they should make steam trains more
Had it not been for Dr Beeching's report and the subsequent closure of so many railway lines, the rail and steam preservation movement would have had nothing to preserve.
Diddums a hurt bunny den? Arsewipe?
You've seen nothing yet! With any luck you'll survive telling me to bugger off you waste of fucking air
and if it went for war all those peace protesters wouldn't have anything to do
Absolutely
Men were still men. And horsepowers were still horsepowers .
'Men were still men' ... and women were glad of it. Stay free, Par N. R 😎
dr beeching had a lot to answer to
Andy Coakes Oh Doctor Beeching what have you done? There were a lot of trains to ride but soon there will be none. I'll have to buy a bike as I can't afford a car...oh Doctor Beeching what a naughty man you are!'
His influence permeated outside the United Kingdom, unfortunately. The line from Beenleigh, Australia to Southport on the "Gold Coast" was closed in 1964, despite massive objections. By 1996 it was rebuilt on a new alignment, fully electrified and extended by several km in 2009.
+Andy Coakes If we had today the railway network we had in 1955 I am quite sure our society would be very much different - in many better ways. What Beeching did wasn't destroy a railway network, but destroy a society and a communal or cultural way of life.
+ShizukuSeiji
Beeching is a convenient scapegoat for (a) Ernest Marples, a Tory Minister of Transport, (who had conveniently placed his Road Building firm in his wife's hands so he couldn't be accused of vested interest...that's ok then), (b) The British Transport Commission and British Railways Board, who by the mid fifties had already squandered the funding provided for railway modernisation and were looking for yet more funding, plus (c) successive governments from both left and right wings, who didn't want to foot the bill for subsidising hugely unsuccessful lines.
Many of the lines/stations closed had gone before he even set foot in the boardroom, and many more were shut after he'd gone.
He was put in place specifically to do an axe job...instead he did the first genuine overall analysis (unbelievable - but there were no proper complete records/analyses available until he had surveys organised) into which lines/stations actually produced a profit and which a loss...it transpired that a tiny part of the system produced most of the profit...and conversely a huge part of the system lost money...in many cases always had.
Unsatisfied with this, he also had his team research which segments of the organisation could be promoted into a structure which might, with investment, be run without subsidy (eg the Railfreight container trade and certain more marginal passenger operations).
He then produced not one, but TWO Beeching reports, the blue book containing the analysis of existing traffic and possible cuts...the second being the orange book containing a list of investments, which if made, could preserve and expand at least a freight trade on a larger network. There was also a complete and comprehensive set of appendices.
Guess which book ALL the following governments followed, and which they scrimped on, doing too little and far too late? (Incidentally, anyone who has not read both these reports and the appendices, in my honest opinion, really has no place criticising Doctor Beeching at all).
Another factor of course is that Beeching himself didn't, (and couldn't), cut any railway lines...each was established by Act of Parliament, and had to be dissolved by Act of Parliament, (eg read up on the Bluebell Railway and Mrs Bessemer), so only an elected Parliament could cut back any railway line...and contrary to much well-publicised bullshit, they all did...
I'm not a Tory, nor paricularly a Beeching supporter, but I personally believe he was an honourable and honest businessman who fulfilled his duties as well as he could, and it's a disgrace his name has been so maligned by so many sickeningly sloping-shouldered bastards, particularly in Westminster...
Beeching was a hero. He closed down uneconomic lines and ensured that polluting steam locos were cut up for scrap. He saved the country money and pollution.
In the main, the Beeching axe was right for the time. However, the tragedy of it was that the closed lines were not moth-balled.
Had they been, many of those lines would be becoming viable again now for environmentally friendly and efficient automated light rail... & the Grand Central Mainline would be a fair chunk of HS2 ready built.
A cow tunnel?-An occupation arch.
shush now john Benton,sleep and awaketh a calmer man with a new wit and a lovely manner will grace your over tired hormones,i embrace your face and hope for your salvation (big kisses)
34:43 is that a Black 5?
The one zoomed out isn’t but the one zoomed in is
That’s a Q6
@@caledoniansignalman8153 the one where he's behind the loco is a BR Standard 4 Mogul
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Why can not incompetent researchers get their facts correct. The Stockton and Darlington Railway WAS NOT the First Public Railway and not Even the First Steam Railway as they used Horse and Steam haulage at first. The First Public Railway was the Swansea and Mumbles Oystermouth Railway opened in March 1807, using Horses till 1877, then Horse and steam till it was operated by Overhead Double Deck Trams from 1929 until final closure in Jan 1960. The true first all 'Steam Railway was the Liverpool to Manchester in 1830.
peter buckley I think you'll find that the Middleton Railway is older, opening in1758, and was the first railway granted powers by Act of Parliament. It waxalso the first railway to successfully use steam locomotives.
The Surrey Iron Railway was the first public railway opening in 1802.
The first publically subscribed railway was the Stockton and Darlington railway, which was also the first public railway to used locomotives initially only for freight (coal). Passenger trains started on 10th October 1825, less than a month after the line opened. The passenger services were all horse drawn until 1833 when steam took over all trains.
It’s not the worlds first railway BUT IT IS the worlds first passenger railway.
There had been a Railway in Darlington before 1825 running from Shildon (near Bishop Auckland) to Darlington.
The line to Stockton was just an extension of that.
I don’t know where you got this information from Martin. The whole length of the Stockton and Darlington Railway from Witton Park near Bishop Auckland through Shildon then to Darlington and onto Stockton was opened in 1825, there was never a railway running in Darlington from Shildon before 1825.
another good railway documentary ruined by adding musak
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Gordie idea railways lol
Andy & amandas art dogs & V logs
Yes but perfected by Darlington and what is now known as Teesside.
1:07 SPENCER!!!!!!!!
+noLongerUsed FNAF (Wheatley Gaming)
no
andyg3 yes
No, it is his brother, Sir Nigel Gresley, named after the man who created their class. Now run along little child.
noLongerUsed FNAF meh
noLongerUsed FNAF Meh
Kinda off the subject, but, In 1988 or so, I think it was the Flying Scotsman, they took it to Australia and tried to unload it on the East coast, but it was too heavy, so they took it to a heavy crane on the West coast and unloaded it. Then drove it to the East! Now, on Brittany, south of you folks is a 390 ton standing stone, cut into a shape many girls still drool over. It was moved something like 70 miles and STOOD up! It is 30 tons heavier then the loco. Damn, I'm proud of my Blue eyes and Celtic extraction!