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Can you plug a European plug directly into a UK socket outlet?
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- Опубликовано: 25 авг 2022
- It is possible to plug a EuroPlug directly into a UK socket outlet. This only works with the smaller EuroPlug, and not with the bigger "Schuko" plug. No adaptor is needed. You have to however temporary plug something into the earth hole, to defeat the shutter system. The question is should you do this, and is it electrically safe to do so? Is it better to use a good quality, fused plug adaptor? Some cheap Chinese ("Death-Daptor") plug adaptors, are extremely dangerous anyway.
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I use this trick a fair amount when stuff arrives with a europlug and no (safe) adaptor.
I've recommended it to people in comments sections and been told how 'unsafe' it is, just because it bypasses the earth, even on devices which, if fitted with the UK plug *would not be grounded to begin with* (plastic earth pin or just L N in the cable), using a power strip or fused multi-adaptor is an excellent recommendation and it can even be de-rated to 5, 3 or even 1A depending on what you're running out of it (just use a calculator and divide watts by voltage, or use an online calculator which takes power factor into account) meaning the fuse gives even more protection (though UK fuses are to protect devices, not people primarily, though preventing a fire protects people) it's a good, quick 'life hack' that many people erroneously see as super dangerous for some reason, yet they'll happily use the deathdaptors instead.
I am grateful that some people watch the video and actually understand what I'm trying to say😉. Rather than just condemning this practice, it's worth asking the question if it's really that dangerous. And my conclusion is if it's fused appropriately it's fine.
You're right, the problem isn't the earth David ... it's that people often end up connecting a low-power cable and item, directly to a 32A ring, with no intervening fuse.
So, in the event of a short, that cable is going to do a fairly brief impersonation of a light bulb! Whilst we might assume that the insulation is self-extinguishing _(hello, China? You there?)_ ... unfortunately your carpet, bed, sofa and skirting may not be. Nor, generally speaking, are the other inhabitants of your home or office.
But, I do it! And I encourage others to do it! Always AFTER ordering them the appropriate fused adapter online. cus it is dangerous IF LEFT in that state!
Earthing has bugger all to do with it. They ain't earthed items. But they're typically not 32A capable items either ; )
1. Break rules while we're present, cus we're adults, not children!
2. But _'make safe'_ before _'making off'_ - cus we're not fricken' psychos : )
I find that a fair balance, and not the slightest bit 'snowflakey' ; )
Yeah only use this trick with double insulated appliances which shouldn't have earth connections. Flat plugs like the one in the video and round ones that have no metal plates for earth are safe. (if they came with the equipment)
Now the only concern I would have is the connection itself being a bit wonky in some cases. My stereo has a EU plug and sometimes when my foot hits it I can hear the stereo cutting out for a moment, which means that the connection is not tight enough. This could in turn lead to sparks and eventually fire, but the chance of that is very small. Unless you continue yanking it for hours I guess.
another nice reason to only do this on an extension lead is that it feels safer if you plug it in when the extension lead isn't plugged into the wall socket and then plug it into the wall once plugged into the extension lead.
Yes, and that way it's fused via the extension lead plug😉👍
The problem is not the EU plugs, but the crappy Chinese knock-off adapters, which should be banned for sale in the EU and UK markets.
It is still safe to plug shavers and toothbrush chargers into a dedicated shaver socket if your
accomodation has one. If you can't get an extension lead then a travel adaptor is still better
than shoving it directly into the mains outlet. If your on holiday using an adaptor is still fine as
long as you unplug your things after use or before you leave your accomodation.
If you live in the UK then your best options are either one of the Power Connections Euro to UK
converter plugs as those are high quality or just cut the European plug off and fit a UK plug.
Thank you so much for making this video I’ve been trying to put the cable into the socket for 20 mins thank you now I can play my PlayStation
I'm glad that you added the bit about using the extension lead with a fuse. The presence of the fuse is a critical benefit of the UK system! A good quality adaptor should also be safe option if it contains a fuse, although I take your point that the "death-daptors" are far too common.
I would never recommend anybody try this. But I thought I would give it my honest perspective. I always prefer to cut the EuroPlug off and replace it with a fused UK plug 😉👍. I've never been a big fan of using adaptors. The only reason the UK plugs have 13 amp fuses in them, is because of the mighty 32A ring circuit! Other countries use radial circuits protected by lower current circuit breakers. So the appliance flex stands a much better chance without a plug fuse, in European countries for example.
It is not a benefit but a requirement.
It's not a benefit but a requirement because the UK uses ring circuits. Other countries use radial circuits and don't need fuses for the outlets.
@@MyProjectBoxChannel Did you know about this fused conversion plug:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AC_power_plugs_and_sockets:_British_and_related_types#Conversion_plugs_(BS_1363-5)
If you did, why do you still prefer to cut the poor Europlug completely off, if I may ask? 😄
@@Pseudoplasmagore I do know that conversation plug very well. They are very good, but I don't like them because they are big and ugly😩😜😄. It's also more expensive than just putting a £1 UK plug on. If the appliance is going to be permanently used in the UK, I prefer to just put a UK plug on it, it's really quick and easy to do, and it looks nicer too.
Well, all in all, as long as the plug fits in it can be plugged and used. The voltage is nearly the same in both cases.
As you said use an extension socket with a correctly rated fuse as the ring main fuse is 20amps! That's a lot of current through a 3Amp cable which will melt and cause a fire without even blowing the main 32amp fuse in the electrical distribution box.
Yes the definitely the extension cord with a fuse! As the ring is 32 amps not 20A, that's a lot of current.
Thanks for letting me know, I changed it incase anyone acts on it.@@MyProjectBoxChannel
Doing this directly to the wall is ABSOLUTELY dangerous - DO NOT do this under any circumstance. I can't imagine how one of those flimsy sub 10A cables would deal with 32A in case of a short. The extension cord is actually a neat way of doing it, at least you're protected by something. 13A is much, much better than 32A, as dissipated heat is proportional to the square of the current, e.g., at 32A, the dissipated heat is 6 times greater for the same load at 13A, while for 13A is only 1.7 times higher than at 10A. The cable could probably handle that. Still, only do it in case of absolute need, and I suggest as well replacing your plug ASAP for long term use, especially with power hungry devices.
I couldn't agree more! The 32Amp ring circuit in the uk, is the very reason UK plugs are fused In the first place. I'm personally not a big fan of the ring circuit, There is no way to prevent unfused "UKplugs" to come into the country from China. I think the "old ring circuit" has had its day, But for safety, we should switch to European style 16 or 20 amp radials.
Europlug can only carry up to 2.5 amps.
@@Ignisan_66 yes the original specification is only 2.5A, and most of the appliances that use them, use less current than that. BUT! it was designed to be a universal plug that fits most of European socket outlets. So the Europlug, plugs into sockets governed by 16A to 20A circuit breakers in Europe! Point being that it can handle the fault current of a short circuit! to trip the breaker. (Hundreds+++ of amps for a brief period) So the Europlug is well protected by a 13A fuse.
Remove 13A fuse. Add a 3A fuse, or even a 1A fuse. Problem solved.
Schuko outlets (and likely other European grounded outlets) are rated for 16A, and yet there is no problem plugging 2.5A Europlug into these sockets. Yes, it is likely that a circuit will be protected by 16A and not 32A fuse, but the end result of a malfunctioning cable with a short circuit likely will be the same :)
Well I did the same thing by sticking something into the ground part of the socket but on a travel adapter. Used it for my oral b toothbrush charger that also uses an euro plug
I did the best option of all in the mid 1990's... I bought a 4 way extension lead in Amsterdam, chopped off the euro plug then fitted a 13A fused UK plug... and I have a UK 4 way with a built in 13A fuse fitted with a euro plug, came in handy for video camera charging, laptops and phones though I had a euro cable for the laptop power pack anyway but safest option is a proper converter lead.
While it *should* be safe for low amp applications. You have a far smaller surface area than what you'd like for anything more than a couple amps. I know you said don't use it for the larger EU plugs but I need to stress that because you can create a legitimate fire hazard. The best thing to do is get the correct cables or get an EU extension cable and replace it's plug with a UK one.
in the US we have all breakers of 30 ,20, and 15 amps
Let's hope know one putes the screwdriver in the wrong hall
The material those adaptors are made from is called "Chinesium" and it's not the most sturdy material known to man.
People saying this is extremely dangerous probably don't have much experience with mains shorts. Even if the cable and plugs are not rated for 30A, this will mean either the short will blow itself out instantly or the short will get a good enough connection to blow up the 30A fuse instantly as well.
The only way to make this dangerous would be to use a load that will actually pull at least a few amps continuously and those plugs are only used with low power equipment.
You are technically correct! Faults are almost always going to be short circuit, and not "over load" faults. Fault current, in short circuits, can be extremely high current(hundreds of amps or more), but only for a very brief period. It's not enough time for the appliance flex to heat up! The circuit breaker trips way before that can happen.
i’m in the uk i live here but i have a turkish plug that i need to plug in so thanks i hope it goes well
I agree ,once your using an a fused extension. I normally snip the two pin off and just put a 3 pin on it with a 3A fuse. It's frightening how thin the wire is on some of the Chinese stuff though, sometimes I have to solder the ends to make a connection in the plug . Ring circuits are banned here now ( Ireland)
I normally cut the EuroPlug off and put a UK plug aswell 😉. I don't like the British 32A ring circuit for many reasons, but it's reason we have such a good, over engineered fused plug these days! It help to protect against substandard flex cable, even on a lower current radial circuit.
Absolutely agree, though there are times where cutting the flex and adding a UK/Eire plug isn't possible. A wifi repeater I have for example has the plug built into the body, so I can't really snip it off and change it out, just got an electric toothbrush and found out it's designed to plug into a shaver socket. The euro-daptor I have has slots for the 2 pin shaver plugs (which isn't particularly safe as shaver outlets are isolated) but it works fine in a UK socket and allows me to charge the toothbrush (currently under my desk so it's not unattended), I could cut the wire to the charger and add a UK plug, though that would destroy the IP rating on it, so using this until I get a shaving socket adaptor (which won't be much, if any safer) or install a shaver socket this will do the job.
Thanks, very helpful video. I just picked up a Logitech Z533 PC speaker, and found it had a 2 prong plug, I assume to be an EU plug, but the speaker is rated for 100V-240V & 50/60Hz, so I assume it can work from a British power wall socket. However I will follow your advice in the comments section and fit a standard UK 3 prong BS1363 plug, that seems the best solution.
It's always better to change the plug 😉
@@MyProjectBoxChannel It worked!
Im just luckly in my country is safer since its 120V much lower than UK and it only has 20amp and 15 amp plugs so no fuse required but is recommended on power adapters like nintendo switch chargers for safety
Yes 230V and 32A is a lot of power on a socket outlet!!! ( 7600w ) So you really need a fuse in your plugs in the UK.
I live in Cyprus, where we have the exact same plugs. However, 1 out of 3 of the electrical equipment I buy from stores comes in Cyprus with the European or the schuko plugs and that really drives me crazy. Does the same thing happens to the UK or any other countries that follow the british standards?
In the UK, the only products that come with Euro plugs are personal hygiene devices like shavers or rechargeable toothbrushes, so these need EU to UK adapters. Some UK bathrooms have Euro wall sockets fitted in order to power these. I'm not sure why this is the case.
@@RandallSlick we follow the exact same standards, but any changes that apply to the UK will also apply to Cyprus after 7 years, and the cables are often thicker because of our high temperatures. We also have the shaver sockets, but I think the reason why EU and schuko plugs come to Cyprus even in cases they shouldn't is because many products pass from Greece to Cyprus. However, even in this case the schuko plugs (the ones that are used for appliances that need to be earthed) should never exist in any country that follows the UK standards. I've seen a lot of cases where people do the trick you saw in the video in order to plug in schuko plugs. This is is dangerous because the earth pin will not be connected.
Hello. Is it okay to use a power adapter for European plugs CEE 7/16 called "Europlug" with 3A fuse in the UK? Does this also apply to other countries that use British power outlet?
You should use a proper adapter. That looks some weird one designed for various plugs. Especially it does not provide ground on schuko plugs. The UK plug has different dimensions than the Europlug so connecting is not recommended.
16 A is maximum in Europe for sockets, older homes have 10 A breakers.
In Malaysia and Hong King where they also use the "G" type plug and socket they sell a plastic copy of the plug (facia only)that has the usual earth (ground) pin but has two holes beneath that correspond to the place where and two pin European plug can fit. One can easily make one just by drilling the two bottom holes in a safety flat plug that only has the Earth pin attached and is made to isolate the live and neutral sockets and prevent children from inserting a metal object. This is a complete waste of money as the shutters in a "G" socket already prevent this from happeing but you know how the Chinese like to make money.
South African 15A Type M plug in Malaysia used only for airconditioners.
Formerly used Type D plug, which is used in India.
Europlugs will losely fit and plugging Schuko plugs on Indian outlet without ground contact might be dangerous
Type I outlets in China has shutters that can’t plug 2 pin Australian Type I plug, only 3 pin plugs that can insterted. Also includes Japan non polarized and Euro universal 2 pin outlet.
Saudi Arabia uses Type G outlets for 220V 60Hz, they used plastic earth pin to plug with EU plug into UK outlet, also on Saudi Appliances with Europlug with 110V / 220V voltage selector.
Thanks mate that helped a lot because I just moved from the US
how are you dealing with fatca and fbar?
I think it is best to just cut the end off of the cord, and replaced with the proper end with the proper fuse.
Replacing the European plug with a UK plug is always going to be the best permanent solution. The video just demonstrates that if used with a fused extention cord, it could be a relatively "safe" , temporarily option.
Why would you want to do that. Just cut the two pin plug off and fit a uk three pin plug fitted with the correct fuse .
You are kinda stating the obvious. For a permanent solution it's always better to change the plug to a proper UK one. But that is not really the point of this video. I'm just saying if you plugged 🔌 it into a fused extention cord, and NOT directly into the wall socket outlet, it is not as dangerous as people seem to think. Because the extention plug has a fuse to limit the current from the 32AMP ring main.
Personally I recommend getting a proper ggod quality adapter
Or just cut the plug off and put a UK plug😉
US Type A/B, Chinese / Australian Type I, Italian Type L 10A 3 pin.
This is what many people have been doing in Malaysia and Singapore lol
And it’s unsafe. You’re forcing a round pin into a rectangular hole, and you’re defeating the safety features of the socket like the fuse and the childproof shutters. The best solution is a fused converter plug or a proper Schuko to BS1363 adaptor
But still is unsafe 😂 better change the entire plug completely with 3-Pin plug 😁
I would definitely prefer to replace the plug with a proper UK plug if its going to be in permanent use. 😉👍
32 A !! Uhhhh... Almost every socket in mainland Europe is MAX 10 A Eurostecker are designed for MAX 2,5A
That's exactly why in the UK plugs have a 13Amp or lower fuse.😉
Also UK live and neutral pins can fit on Italian 10A and 16A italian plug adapters.
I find that the Uk needs the plastic 2pin plug key adapter you can find in Singapore and malaysia
That’s bad. There’s no fuse, it exposes the contacts should there be no plug in the socket. What you need is a proper Schuko to BS1363 adaptor, which has a fuse, plus shutters for childproofing purposes. They can be found in many places in the UK and Ireland, and I wish those were more widely available in SIngapore
TRAVEL PLUGS ARE FUSED YOU STICK THE TWO PIN IN YOU WILL BE ASKING FOR TROUBLE THE EXSTENSION LEAD IS 13AMP FUSED TO RUN SHAVERS OR TOOTH BRUSHES 1AMP TO 3 AMP
I certainly agree that using the travel adapter is the right idea.. I can tell you however from my experience, that many travel adapters that I have bought, are completely unfused!! The fuse is there to protect the appliance flex. In the event of a catastrophic fault, A 13 amp fuse( Extension cord) is more than capable of blowing on a appliance flex, In the event of a short circuit failure. In Europe plugs do not have fuses in them. This is because there fused board circuit breakers are of a much lower current value than in the uk. 32A for a UK plug circuit ring!!!!!!
Legend
Just buy a better adapter, with a built in fuse'
Yes yes a good quality fused adaptor! You are kind of stating the obvious. But that's not the point of the video. In a pinch you could use a extension lead with a fused plug on it. And it would be "relatively" safe. And better than the Death-Daptors.
Skross Schuko to Universal US Type B, Australia/China Type I, UK Type G and Europlug Brazilian,Italian and Swiss middle ground pin plug adapter with fuse. Includes World to Europe (French and German) Schuko plug adapter
I actually want you to see the universal multiplugs we get in Asia and get your opinion and review on it
They often are far more dangerous, partly due to the cheaper construction, but also have no shutters, or anything other safety features a proper native socket would have.
Can you advise or know of anywhere to get high quality adaptor?
As long as the adaptor is fused then its good for uk use. If you buy it at the airport or a supermarket (proper shop) it should be approved for use in the UK. Its when you get things online, then you don't know what you're getting.
Element14/Farnell is a good site. The downside is that being an online retailer, there’s a minimum spend before you’re entitled to free shipping
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Sure you can do this by forcing it, but the more you do, the looser the socket becomes and eventually it'll be hard to simply connect a plug to it.
So, don't do it. Cut the Euro plug and replace with a U.K. plug or use an adapter.
I always recommend you cut the earplug off and put a proper UK plug on, for a permanent solution. The "Schuko type" will definitely damage the socket, but not the Europlug. And only do it on a fused extension cord, NOT on a wall socket with a 32Amp ring.
UK live and neutral pin plugs can fit on Italian 10a and 16A universal adapters. ruclips.net/video/wy5af9GYltI/видео.html
Both UK and Europlug uses 4.0mm round thick.
@@FrancisLitanofficialJAPINOY that's very interesting 🤔. I did not know that.
wow I just saved myself 150 bucks
How so?
Wao I just done it's perfect
Despite what ever you say in the video, there's always some smart As who have to call you out in the comments section, and tell you it's wrong, when you've just explained it's not recommended. I bet you think 'Oh please spare me from these numpties' !
There will always be "know better" keyboard warriors. I try not to let it get to me😉
Isn’t the lack of an earth dangerous?
This is a "class II double insulated" device. It does not have exposed metal parts that need connecting to earth. This type of device will not have a "earth pin" on the plug. For UK plugs they will have a dummy plastic earth pin. The only reason for the fake plastic earth pin is to open the safety shutters on the socket outlet.
@@MyProjectBoxChannel yes I have some Myryad Hifi amps and although they use a 3 pin kettle plug adaptor, only 2 of the pins can be used. There might be an issue for sound quality though, as earthing or grounding is usually a good thing.
@@Coneman3 Usually the Earth Can help to reduce interference, But sometimes it can also introduce 50hz hum! If you have a good clean Earth it's fine. But sometimes it's better to leave the Earth floating. "Ground loop" is a problem for audio amplifiers. I used to build my own amplifiers when I was younger. Some professional audio equipment have a ground float/lift switch, so you can disconnect the Earth if you get 50/60Hz hum.
What's max output on socket is it always 13amp or will it go 16amp. We're 13amp is for protection??
You will get protection from the 13A fuse in the extension cord's plug. If you plug the EuroPlug in a UK extension cord, the current will be limited by the fuse in the extension cord plug.
@@MyProjectBoxChannel so if u put a schuko plug in will it max out at 16amp and maybe blow the socket??
@@riley881 No. the fuse in the extension cord will limit it to 13A max. But a European socket outlet with no fuse in the plug will be limited by it's corresponding circuit breaker 16A to 20A. BUT! If you plug a European plug into a UK socket outlet directly (no extension cord) you can draw 32A!!!! Because the circuit breaker is on a 32A ring circuit! 32A is way too much for a European plug and flex wire. Things could melt and catch fire 🔥.
@@MyProjectBoxChannel thank u ever so much
@@MyProjectBoxChannel one more question so cud a plug run at 16amps in uk socket with no problems ?? Say for couple hrs etc
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I'd get a BS 5732 plug adaptor myself for the Euro plug and I know from this ruclips.net/video/nxF-POV43sE/видео.html you can also get similar for Schuko style plugs too. Has a replaceable fuse and all. Mine only cost a few quid at most so to have the peace of mind is excellent and can be easily reversed with a screwdriver if you take the device abroad.
Rather than wrongly putting euro plugs into uk sockets like this, you can buy BS approved converters that fit over euro plugs which are fused and are screwed together. This is the correct easy way to do it.
For me personally, if I want a permanent solution, I always cut the "euro plugs" off, and replace it with a UK plug, with the appropriate fuse. I'm not a big fan of the wrap-around adaptor. Is big and bulky, and more expensive than a cheap rewireable British plug. In my PAT testing days I would cut the wrap-around adaptor, and put a "proper plug". Rewiring a plug was a skill I was taught at school. Nobody seems to know how to do that anymore. Maybe the health and safety "nanny state", Is trying to protect us form ourselves. A Basic life skills like this, Is super important I think.
@@MyProjectBoxChannel Yes, I agree I was putting plugs on competently at 10 years old. But I would not trust my sons who are over 20 to do it now. Seen so many euro plugs jammed in though, whilst working in people's homes, could not cut off, as not electrician.
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So basically in a nutshell if we have to do it this way then do it via an extension lead (fused)? I would much rather do it like that then some crappy quality eu to UK plug from China
Yes it's still better than a cheap unfused Chinese death-dapter. But a good Quality fused adapter, is preferable for most people, I think.
@@MyProjectBoxChannelHong Kong uses UK plugs