@@Julayla That doesn't exactly make sense since Metal Mario is just Mario with a Metal Cap. As for how regular Mario and Metal Mario were able to play golf back on the 64 days before the discovery of Double Cherries though... I got nothin.
Luigi has a Penguin Suit, Classic NES enspired suit, Builder suit (from the mario maker games), a Lederhosen Costume from the Berlin Tour and Painter Costume from the recent Paris Tour now in Mario Kart tour.
Didn’t E Gadd also make the Super Team in Mario Strikers? Also, since Gooigi captured the first game’s ghost and brought them to future E Gadd, we might see them in Luigi’s Mansion 3 Edit: i guess i was making that up then lol
Time travel acknowledged, it is stated that the super team belongs to bowser, and is never associated with E Gadd. (edit: removed incorrect info) It just doesn't line up.
Those could be used as references so FLUDD could recognize who they are trying to look out for. E. Gadd needed *direct* data, which FLUDD was used to collect as well as help Mario as part of the experiment.
I love it how he basically throws shade at Game Theory, saying they reached the same conclusions and having the same data, while having upload dates on screen. Damn
Yeah but both theories are still garbage. There is a small point about E. Gadd giving B. Jr. the paintbrush which falls apart when you realize E Gadd is supposed to be someone who never thinks things through to their fullest. On top of that it's very likely E Gadd disn't even know who B. Jr was at the time, seeing as he not only spent 20 years at the foot of the hill of the mansion. But also Mario and Peach didn't know.
@@edubyahmusic But it wouldn't really make sense if he had footage at the start of his adventure (SMB1) If that was Bowser's security camera in his castle, then it wouldn't make sense because Bowser could have just trapped him over and over again. We've already seen that e gadd is able to time travel, so him going back in time to study him isn't too far fetched imo.
@@dualscreen8789 true, the time travel part could make for infinite possibilities, but also the Mario world gets pretty Meta. Lot of 4th wall breaks, so Like SMB1, has been re done and rereleased multiple times throughout the years. Like in Super Mario All-Stars with all the older games together at the start screen its like a rewards show, good guys and bad guys all dressed up waiting for you to choose the game behind the curtain. So whose to say that in the SMB universe that even the early re-releases of the first game was sort of like a movie based on Marios adventure. How else would Mario be a celebrity in later games? Other than a relationship with a princess I suppose. Just too many factors.
@@edubyahmusic rereleases being separate from the original is valid due to the 3ds version of Luigi's Mansion, which proved he was capable of time travel by sending gooigi back, so I wouldn't be surprised if something like all stars being a set of movies or plays like SMB3.
I kind of like to think he was a rouge cosmic clone mario from one of the galaxy games that got a hold of the metal cap so he could keep a physical form. The cosmic clones are an interesting topic as well.
Robo Mario should be the design for the current ‘Metal Mario’ character, it’s such a cool design and has story reason to exist unlike Powerup But Its Own Character Because Reasons
"No matter how good of a programmer E. Gadd is, there's no way to replicate Mario's infinitely complex mind from scratch." He says about a character from a ~2mb arcade machine.
The end of that eGadd story is actually showing Gooigi carrying eGadd to the shower. When eGadd woke up he was alone because Gooigi fell apart in the water
I was actually really surprised to see something so on-the-nose similar like that. Not that Sonic invented the idea of the robo clone, it's just.. that's so much more a sonic thing than a mario thing. Mario barely has robots, and they usually look more like tin wind-up toys.
I've always thought e gadd just hated mario,he likes luigi more,maybe mario is finally getting what he deserves,he goes on these adventures without luigi and luigi gets his own games to fill that void,I feel like e gadd knew about this the entire time so he treats luigi with better respect
Interesting theory. As for the last part, if we do get an evil E-Gad that opens up soo many possibilities with an evil scientist in the Mario series causing trouble with his inventions. Except, he’s made of goo.
Maybe e.gad is trying to study how to Mario Bros. Work. How they jump so high, how they use the different powerups in the mushroom kingdom, and maybe he's trying to figure out why they're so much different from so many other humans in the Mario universe
I hope that robo Mario return because he seems pretty different than most Mario clones. He at least has more right to be in a Mario game than pink gold peach.
@@LazyGyro in mario 64, lakitu was recording mario the whole time, so e gadd probably took the footage from a news channel or something (sorry if i misspelled something, english isnt my natal language)
The part where you talked about the goo on E. Gadd's face sounded really similar to a part of a Mario fangame I am working on, where E. Gadd was trying to find a cure to old age and accidentally created a mind-altering virus that escaped from the cage and entered E. Gadd's mind. He recorded that he started feeling sharp pains on his back and that his eyes became a gold colour. Next, the virus took full control and E. Gadd transformed into the troublemaker he is today. He likely wears the glasses to hide his eyes. This happened a very long time ago, inside of the town that was destroyed by the shadow queen in the opening of paper Mario TTYD.
You want to know what I think? Well, first off, the idea E. Gadd tried making clones of both brothers and the robot Mario was a precursor to Gooigi is interesting. Definitely feels like something that E. Gadd would do. ...But the idea E. Gadd is evil and all that? Kinda reaching, there. I mean, the biggest red flag about why that doesn't make sense is the fact something Bowser Jr. said in the cutscene was taken at face value. In the same scene where Bowser Jr. says Peach is his mother and Mario is the bad guy always kidnapping her, Bowser Jr. says he was GIVEN the paintbrush by E. Gadd. And given the ending cutscene, Jr. clearly knew the whole time Peach wasn't his mom and that Mario isn't the bad guy, so it stands to reason Jr. was lying about being given the paintbrush, as well. Besides that, another sticking point with that villainizing E. Gadd I don't think makes sense at all is how you state E. Gadd knew Mario was going to be there. We have zero idea what E. Gadd knew and didn't know in Sunshine since E. Gadd doesn't physically appear in Sunshine, he's merely alluded to by way of products his company made. For all we know, the Piantas bought the paintbrush from E. Gadd to paint signs or paintings and all the typical painting related activities and they also bought FLUDD for the sake of having a machine that cleans things. And, of course, there's questioning the morality of putting the portrait ghosts into their portraits in the first place in addition to selling the King Boo portrait. To the former... these are malevolent ghosts who bring harm and cause terror with anyone they come across, E. Gadd's morally in the right for doing it. To the latter... well, to his credit, E. Gadd probably thought it harmless, thinking King Boo was just stuck in the painting forever, so it's very careless and irresponsible, but it's not morally reprehensible or anything. But that all said, it's obvious E. Gadd's no villain, he's just at worst a mad scientist in the sense he's a few cards short of a full deck and that his inventions backfire or lead to problems for other people. Which makes him creating Mario Brother clones less an act of some evil sinister purpose (since, really, what's a robot Mario built for racing or a gooey version of Luigi that melts from water gonna be used for in any sort of villainous scheme?) and more a case of "this guy's trying to create artificial life because he's a few beans short of a full pot of coffee."
I had a feeling I wasn't the only one who thought the whole Villain Gadd thing was far-fetched. The dude's just a scatterbrain at best and chaotic neutral at worst.
This isn't far from the truth anymore, since we're getting Fury Bowser who seems to be affected by black paint from the same paintbrush as in Sunshine!
“If he didn’t have flood, he wouldn’t be able to clear his name.” Egad: yes, my plan is complete. Speedrunners: you have to use what ? (As they clear the game)
The e.gadd notes are really fascinating, it feels like actual effort was put in these considering the references to past games like using the pixelator for data, E.gadd's experience with time travel from partners in time to teach gooigy, but one thing that interests me is what caused gooigi to be created..coffee, because guess who has vast knowledge of coffee in the mario universe? E.gadd. In superstar saga e.gadd uses the Mario Bros the collect different types of beans for his café, could he have used different kinds of coffee to experiment with goo and create different gooigis?
Holy shit it took him 6 minutes to get to the point Also it's shown in the game that Gooigi has no personality, he's essentially a husk piloted by Luigi. One of the cutscenes shows Gooigi getting screamed at by a ghost and not even flinching or blinking, he's kinda just mindless.
At first, I thought this was another dime-a-dozen "putting way more thought into it than the creators", only for you to show me this is all canon. That's pretty dark :T Although imagine if the Gooigi mechanic becomes popular enough. What if E. Gadd starts doing this with Mario? Or even Peach and Bowser?
DUDE, THANK YOU FOR MAKING THIS BRILLIANT VIDEO!! Like this is amazing. Just when I feel like I've seen almost everything as far as deep lore goes for Sunshine and Luigi's Mansion (childhood/teenage years games) you go and drop this BOMBSHELL on me and I'm so blown away. Unlike other video game theories I've seen, where a lot of it seems like just headcanon made around something the developer didn't intend, this has proof all over the place and it's amazing. I won't be looking at Sunshine, Luigi's Mansion and such the same way again and I freaking love it. I love looking deep into these classics and this stuff makes me so much more excited for Luigi's Mansion 3. You know, during the WiiU era of Nintendo, when Dark Moon came out, I felt like a lot Nintendo's prior charm and in depth word building was gone, but now I have so much more appreciation for Dark Moon. Thanks for delivering such a great video man! I very interested in picking up your book, as I hope to become a big RUclipsr soon. Thanks for the inspiration and good luck with these videos! :)
Imagine a Luigi's Mansion Game where it starts off as King Boo as the villain, only to midway through the adventure, Egad is possessed by the Goo from Gooigi, forcing Luigi to side with King Boo. Then in the end, after King Boo and Luigi rescuse the real Egad, the 3 of them fight Goo Variations of themselves, allowing for an epic 3 part final battle.
My idea for battles involving multiple combatants is to have an AI or RNG attack thingy act as the enemy, which has been done before, but then in the background your other characters fight the enemy and you can switch between those fights. Meanwhile, as you control one character the other playable characters use an AI or RNG attack thingy to fight.
Not done with the video yet, but something HUGE you missed: When Mario picks up F.L.U.D.D. for the first time, you can see the first few main Mario titles in clips in the bottom corner. These are clearly all the data E. Gadd had already collected up to that point, all stored in F.L.U.D.D. All ready to be used.
I always kinda liked her. Mario had a light/medium/heavyweight racer in Baby, Regular, and Metal forms, so Peach got Rose Gold Peach to have her own heavyweight version too. It's a bit weird that Luigi didn't get anything, but Mario/Peach are a duo in their own way.
Wow. I love seeing the outer secrets, myths, and boundaries of games and the real world it really fascinating me and this might be the biggest secret the community can come up with.
Seems to be just a gameplay thing. In canon, they act as individuals. I think I heard something about Luigi psychically transmitting instructions to Gooigi or something. They do seem to act like different individuals when they move about and such.
Luigi actually mind controls Gooigi. E Gadd designed him that way because Gooigi almost killed him. Read E Gadd's journal on Nintendo's Luigi's Mansion 3 page.
1) I've only just found this channel but so far I really like it! 2) I was hoping to binge watch your videos but I like watching oldest to newest...would it be a huge pain to reverse the order of one/some of your Lore playlists?
"Who's to say Luigi's data wasn't copied" Who's to say the Luigi being pixelated is in truth the real Luigi being despixelated, so on and so forth. This is some SOMA shit I'm delving into about the Mario world, but still...
My question: Why would E.Gadd would make copies of the Mario Bros in the first place? A) If he is Evil: Make copies of Mario Bros to rule the world. B) If he is Neutral: Sell copies of Mario Bros to anyone for whatever reason - nothing personal, it's just business. C) If he is Good: Make Mario Bros copies if in the events that the Real Mario Bros died the copies can protect the Mushroom Kingdom (or the world) in their place.
WAIT A SECOND. If E Gadd pixelates Luigi, converting him into pixels, that would mean the original Luigi, the one we've come to know and love, is DEAD.
And E. Gadd was supposed to be a playable character in that same game! His kart was supposed to be the Poltergust 4000, they gave it to Luigi instead :0
you are awesome i am a big fan!!! also what site did u use to make merch lol i am a you tuber as well and id love merch too lol also swanky i watch ur videos at my job and when i'm eating breakfast its honestly fascinating and u inspire me as well thank you for posting these great videos lol
Fun fact: while he appears in the tutorial race, luigi isn't currently playable at all in mario kart tour.
Along with waluigi and wario :(
@@pilotraptor64 unlike luigi, they just don't exist at all
@@pilotraptor64 Which is weird because I swear they were in the beta.
@@pommybomber yeah they were
@@pilotraptor64 Future DLC of course
I'm calling it now:
If there's a goo version of E. Gadd, it should be called Professor E. Goo
Or Professor G. Gadd
I was gonna Dr. E.Goodd
Professor E. Ctoplasm
Professor E. Goo’d
Either professor goo Gadd or professor elvin goo
"And that's where things get intresting." I get a crunch choclate ad, well then.
I got a Magic The Gathering one at the exact same moment haha
RUclipsrs with monitization can place midroll ads wherever they want in 10+ videos, some Tubers placing them in places for comedic purposes.
I got into the depth mate
migil likes memes I got one about a vegetarian crunch rap at Taco Bell
migil likes memes kuhk
Fused kek and bruh
I love how Swanky gets all conspiratorial like “Will the Goo turn on us?” while he’s talking about a franchise where man eats mushroom, become big
And throws fireballs at walking mushrooms and turtles
I mean Luigi did turn on Mario in one game...
@@Buglin_Burger7878 Oh god not that “game..”
@@sabbieleow what game?
@@sabbieleow Don't diss one of my favorite Mario games like that! At least it isn't a "game" similar to Hotel Mario.
So basically, ever since Luigi’s Mansion, E Gadd has been trying to find ways of replicating life. Cool dude.
I see no issues with that
"what could possibly go wrong"🤪
@@redshepherd32 You have doomed us all
So the Luigi's Mansion series is the prequel to Frankenstein
Yup
"Why is there no pink gold peach?"
Gold dry bowser: It's time.
Gold? Nah fam Ruby!
@@christianjames3797 Sorry to break it to you, but Gold Dry Bowser happened.
@@acedelta12 WTF
@@christianjames3797 welp guess it's 1 more character for nathenial to hate them ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@@christianjames3797 Gold dry bones and gold king boo too !
I always thought E-Gadd was just controlling robot Mario remotely, like a RC car.
he does have an antennae
YouHaveAyds true. And I thought the robot Mario was actually the precursor to Metal Mario
@@youhaveayds8975 bluetooth 😆
@@Julayla That doesn't exactly make sense since Metal Mario is just Mario with a Metal Cap. As for how regular Mario and Metal Mario were able to play golf back on the 64 days before the discovery of Double Cherries though... I got nothin.
E.Goodd!
“There’s one character I’d like to return in Mario kart Tour”...yeh like goddamn Luigi
FitzDrawer
FUNKY KONG
imagine if they brought pink gold peach back instead
I'm ready for Pete the piranha plant to come back 👍
they added all four
Luigi has a Penguin Suit, Classic NES enspired suit, Builder suit (from the mario maker games), a Lederhosen Costume from the Berlin Tour and Painter Costume from the recent Paris Tour now in Mario Kart tour.
Didn’t E Gadd also make the Super Team in Mario Strikers?
Also, since Gooigi captured the first game’s ghost and brought them to future E Gadd, we might see them in Luigi’s Mansion 3
Edit: i guess i was making that up then lol
they don't have an E Gadd logo. The only branding on them is the Greek letter omega.
Future E Gadd? Is there time travel in Luigi's Mansion?
Fijiboy99 there’s a good amount of time travel in Mario games
Fijiboy99 See E Gadd’s Research Journal and Gooigi’s intro in the Luigi’s Mansion remake
Time travel acknowledged, it is stated that the super team belongs to bowser, and is never associated with E Gadd.
(edit: removed incorrect info)
It just doesn't line up.
*“I used the Mario to create the Mario”*
XD
Jimmy Sirenhead lmfaooo
Sigma reference?
Do the Mario!
I used the luigi to create the gooigi
FLUDD already had data on Mario from before Sunshine. In the little videos when Mario and Fludd first meet
Those could be used as references so FLUDD could recognize who they are trying to look out for. E. Gadd needed *direct* data, which FLUDD was used to collect as well as help Mario as part of the experiment.
If you were listening to what fludd says they’re saying that they’re scanning mario
Wait, so doesn't that mean that F.L.U.U.D is also keeping tract of mario's fight pattern in smash?
Fludd was aready working in copying Mario’s behavior before being given to mario by wathing/playing the games
just Facial Recognition and surveillance footage from M64
E-Gadd: I'm going to make a robotic clone of the protagonist in my series
*_Dr. Robotnik would to know your location_*
(like)
I dont know why, but there's just something pure about e gadd watching tapes of luigi's adventures with gooigi to try and teach him.
@TB_Nick *eye of the tiger fades in*
Like raising a ghostly baby to be a hero
@@LostSoulSilver *sniff* They ghoul up so fast. :,)
I see you have Tressa as your profile picture. You're a true man of culture.
The popcorn... Definitely the popcorn
I love it how he basically throws shade at Game Theory, saying they reached the same conclusions and having the same data, while having upload dates on screen. Damn
Yeah but both theories are still garbage. There is a small point about E. Gadd giving B. Jr. the paintbrush which falls apart when you realize E Gadd is supposed to be someone who never thinks things through to their fullest.
On top of that it's very likely E Gadd disn't even know who B. Jr was at the time, seeing as he not only spent 20 years at the foot of the hill of the mansion. But also Mario and Peach didn't know.
@@mr.tadpole1697 that's a good point Ngl, but the theory's are still kinda smart
@@egghead4590 Well there are plenty other issues with both of them really. I just named some simple ones.
B.jr specifically said he got the brush from e gadd
"Game theory's rendition of the same concept a year later"-- shade thrown, lol
Well, they take theories from across the internet, change them, and spread them so more people can enjoy them.
@@MoronBoshi without credit.
@@MoronBoshi and drag it out more
@@MoronBoshi and the theories often contradict facts
@@MoronBoshi and also the most contovertial theory instead of a more logical one is usually discussed for more views
Swanky: "The truly unique pINk GoLD PeAch."
Nathaniel Bandy: say sike right now.
Hes gonna be mad
Rage
it's Bathaniel Nandy
@@fabian5840 Bathaniel Nandy is a totally different guy, what are you talking about?
@@auroreo777
Like GilvaSunner and SilvaGunner
E gadd already had some footage at the start of sunshine, when fludd showed footage from past games.
Yes i was really disapointed swanky left that part out.
Yeah AI recording seems far fetched to me considering that Mario is a celebrity in his own world already.
@@edubyahmusic But it wouldn't really make sense if he had footage at the start of his adventure (SMB1) If that was Bowser's security camera in his castle, then it wouldn't make sense because Bowser could have just trapped him over and over again. We've already seen that e gadd is able to time travel, so him going back in time to study him isn't too far fetched imo.
@@dualscreen8789 true, the time travel part could make for infinite possibilities, but also the Mario world gets pretty Meta. Lot of 4th wall breaks, so Like SMB1, has been re done and rereleased multiple times throughout the years. Like in Super Mario All-Stars with all the older games together at the start screen its like a rewards show, good guys and bad guys all dressed up waiting for you to choose the game behind the curtain. So whose to say that in the SMB universe that even the early re-releases of the first game was sort of like a movie based on Marios adventure. How else would Mario be a celebrity in later games? Other than a relationship with a princess I suppose. Just too many factors.
@@edubyahmusic rereleases being separate from the original is valid due to the 3ds version of Luigi's Mansion, which proved he was capable of time travel by sending gooigi back, so I wouldn't be surprised if something like all stars being a set of movies or plays like SMB3.
In the words of Wario in the Japanese version of Mario Party,
*_"OH MY GOD!"_*
Luigi says it, too.
HORY SHET
*WAAAAAAH*
@@tiarabite silence JOJO FAN
@@birdup5577 daga kotowaru
And here I thought this was going to be about Metal Mario.
Metarlio
I thought it was going to be shadow mario
I kind of like to think he was a rouge cosmic clone mario from one of the galaxy games that got a hold of the metal cap so he could keep a physical form. The cosmic clones are an interesting topic as well.
Robo Mario should be the design for the current ‘Metal Mario’ character, it’s such a cool design and has story reason to exist unlike Powerup But Its Own Character Because Reasons
@@fawfulthegreat64 yeah kind of like Metal Sonic
I like how he casually sends Gooigi through time
Well.....this isn't the first Mario game with time travel so I guess he is comfortable with it
E. Gadd was also in Mario and Luigi 2 Partners in Time, which also included time travel.
@@smt64productions40 Oh no. Don't mention that "game". That one's more crappy than Mario Teaches Typing.
1:07 Nathaniel Bandy would like to have a word with you
xD
;)
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE HE LIKES PINK GOLD PEACH?!?
Teenage Builder
Yeah? She’s alright, people can like her.
Teenage Builder honestly don't make yourself look like a kid...
"No matter how good of a programmer E. Gadd is, there's no way to replicate Mario's infinitely complex mind from scratch."
He says about a character from a ~2mb arcade machine.
@scissors sonic ova moment
@@marsybarz yes
3:26 E.GADD IS NARUTO RUNNING
I guess E. Gadd was practising for the area 51 raid all the way back in 2001.
@@TheComicKid_ damn. Dedication.
Lmfaooo
No he’s Naruto waddling
Plot twist E.Gadd is old Naruto?
“Robo Mario: “you’re weak”
Mario: “I’m you”
SUPER, ISN'T-A IT?
@scissors sonic ova
After watching this video I'm thinking only one thing:
I should get LM3 as soon as possible
“Making a timeline out of random games can be a tad rough.”
Yeah, tell us Zelda fans all about it.
Yeah also playing majora's mask rn
ugh saaame
3:26
IM SORRY BUT HOW CAN SOMEONE WHO CAN NARUTO RUN NOT BE ON OUR SIDE
The end of that eGadd story is actually showing Gooigi carrying eGadd to the shower. When eGadd woke up he was alone because Gooigi fell apart in the water
That's the impression I got as well
This is why Mario Kart ultimate needs to happen, so we can get characters like this.
I actually thought of an idea like that
dude, every previous MK character comes back along with most items and tracks
@@mazder_2709 Yeah...even though I don't mind if the Blooper is cut out to be honest
@@smt64productions40 Just make him an item-turned-racer.
@@timothydarden6133 Yeah
"...But a robotic clone is a first."
Metal Sonic: Am I a joke to you?
*in the Mario universe.
We aren't talking about Sonic the hedgehog. If you wanna brag about that shit, then gtfo
Yikes guys...
Wooooo things got heated quick
I was actually really surprised to see something so on-the-nose similar like that. Not that Sonic invented the idea of the robo clone, it's just.. that's so much more a sonic thing than a mario thing. Mario barely has robots, and they usually look more like tin wind-up toys.
I've always thought e gadd just hated mario,he likes luigi more,maybe mario is finally getting what he deserves,he goes on these adventures without luigi and luigi gets his own games to fill that void,I feel like e gadd knew about this the entire time so he treats luigi with better respect
Me 2 dude
“You’re precisely the last person I’d expect to find here”
-E. Gadd (LM3)
I thought the character was ROB but I was almost sort of close
Interesting theory. As for the last part, if we do get an evil E-Gad that opens up soo many possibilities with an evil scientist in the Mario series causing trouble with his inventions. Except, he’s made of goo.
Grab a high powered hose boys
There already exists one, he is called "Fawful".
RNGesus he ded tho
E. Goo-d
Maybe e.gad is trying to study how to Mario Bros. Work. How they jump so high, how they use the different powerups in the mushroom kingdom, and maybe he's trying to figure out why they're so much different from so many other humans in the Mario universe
You forgot to mention on how E. Gadd runs a coffee shop in the Beanbean Kingdom, but makes you get the coffee beans for the coffee! THE MONSTER!!!
i have another theory: E gadd made the fighting polygon team from smash 64 and that was his first attempt at life recreation
This theory is LEAGUES above any Game Theory has come up in the last 4 years or so…
Just a perfect job, dude.
I hope that robo Mario return because he seems pretty different than most Mario clones. He at least has more right to be in a Mario game than pink gold peach.
Spooky, and totally plausible!! I like it. Keep making cool content bro.
"Unobtainable characters, like Pink Gold Peach..."
Nintendo: do you want to rethink that statement?
What if the goo actually dragged egadd to the shower to remove itself from his face?
*lemme off!!*
Left4Cake maybe the goo is a gentle and virtuous spirit, like Luigi himself? He learned from the greenman himself, after all.
Diego A. González Arens
Ah yes,the g r e e n m a n,such a kind and gentle g r e e n
Left4Cake unless
‘Goo given the gift of life decides to use it to drown itself’
3:26 E.Gadd naruto running made my day
Its important to note that FLUDD already had info on mario to begin with.. when starting Sunshine!
Yeah but it kinda just sounds like mario is really popular in the mushroom kingdom
@@datboi1102 That too, FLUDD had video footage tho ;)
@@LazyGyro It's probably just reference data for FLUDD to identify Mario. These aren't my words. Someone else already came up with this idea.
@@LazyGyro in mario 64, lakitu was recording mario the whole time, so e gadd probably took the footage from a news channel or something
(sorry if i misspelled something, english isnt my natal language)
how the heck does someone record pixels
The one RUclips channel about Nintendo that doesn’t have some massive video game collection behind them.
It's official, in the same way that Gooigi is the better, evolved version of Robo Mario, Swanky Box is the better version of Game Theory.
@Just Squid He didn't say Gooigi is better than Luigi, he said Gooigi is better than Robo Mario.
@Just Squid From the "Charles Alston mentioned Luigi in his RUclips comment" universe!
@@Lugbzurg Lol what, the first time I read this comment I also understood Luigi for some reason but if you read it again you can see its Robo Mario.
Never in my life have I been so offended by something I completly agree with.
The part where you talked about the goo on E. Gadd's face sounded really similar to a part of a Mario fangame I am working on, where E. Gadd was trying to find a cure to old age and accidentally created a mind-altering virus that escaped from the cage and entered E. Gadd's mind. He recorded that he started feeling sharp pains on his back and that his eyes became a gold colour. Next, the virus took full control and E. Gadd transformed into the troublemaker he is today. He likely wears the glasses to hide his eyes. This happened a very long time ago, inside of the town that was destroyed by the shadow queen in the opening of paper Mario TTYD.
Didn't E.Gadd create a device that allows the user to become a Ghost in Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga? I'd assume that a Ghost wouldn't age.
Where can I play this
Nintendo confirms E. Gadds twisted experiments, Nice 👍🏻
You want to know what I think? Well, first off, the idea E. Gadd tried making clones of both brothers and the robot Mario was a precursor to Gooigi is interesting. Definitely feels like something that E. Gadd would do.
...But the idea E. Gadd is evil and all that? Kinda reaching, there. I mean, the biggest red flag about why that doesn't make sense is the fact something Bowser Jr. said in the cutscene was taken at face value. In the same scene where Bowser Jr. says Peach is his mother and Mario is the bad guy always kidnapping her, Bowser Jr. says he was GIVEN the paintbrush by E. Gadd. And given the ending cutscene, Jr. clearly knew the whole time Peach wasn't his mom and that Mario isn't the bad guy, so it stands to reason Jr. was lying about being given the paintbrush, as well.
Besides that, another sticking point with that villainizing E. Gadd I don't think makes sense at all is how you state E. Gadd knew Mario was going to be there. We have zero idea what E. Gadd knew and didn't know in Sunshine since E. Gadd doesn't physically appear in Sunshine, he's merely alluded to by way of products his company made. For all we know, the Piantas bought the paintbrush from E. Gadd to paint signs or paintings and all the typical painting related activities and they also bought FLUDD for the sake of having a machine that cleans things.
And, of course, there's questioning the morality of putting the portrait ghosts into their portraits in the first place in addition to selling the King Boo portrait. To the former... these are malevolent ghosts who bring harm and cause terror with anyone they come across, E. Gadd's morally in the right for doing it. To the latter... well, to his credit, E. Gadd probably thought it harmless, thinking King Boo was just stuck in the painting forever, so it's very careless and irresponsible, but it's not morally reprehensible or anything.
But that all said, it's obvious E. Gadd's no villain, he's just at worst a mad scientist in the sense he's a few cards short of a full deck and that his inventions backfire or lead to problems for other people. Which makes him creating Mario Brother clones less an act of some evil sinister purpose (since, really, what's a robot Mario built for racing or a gooey version of Luigi that melts from water gonna be used for in any sort of villainous scheme?) and more a case of "this guy's trying to create artificial life because he's a few beans short of a full pot of coffee."
I had a feeling I wasn't the only one who thought the whole Villain Gadd thing was far-fetched. The dude's just a scatterbrain at best and chaotic neutral at worst.
The plot of the next Mario game is that E. Gadd makes a hyped-up replica of Bowser that does the usual.
Goo creatures began getting haunted
This isn't far from the truth anymore, since we're getting Fury Bowser who seems to be affected by black paint from the same paintbrush as in Sunshine!
“If he didn’t have flood, he wouldn’t be able to clear his name.”
Egad: yes, my plan is complete.
Speedrunners: you have to use what ? (As they clear the game)
The BGM just reminds me how much I want Daisy Circuit to be a retro track if we ever get a Mario Kart 9.
I think E. Gadd was saved by Googi and just is such a narcissist that he thinks he saved himself.
The e.gadd notes are really fascinating, it feels like actual effort was put in these considering the references to past games like using the pixelator for data, E.gadd's experience with time travel from partners in time to teach gooigy, but one thing that interests me is what caused gooigi to be created..coffee, because guess who has vast knowledge of coffee in the mario universe?
E.gadd. In superstar saga e.gadd uses the Mario Bros the collect different types of beans for his café, could he have used different kinds of coffee to experiment with goo and create different gooigis?
Holy shit it took him 6 minutes to get to the point
Also it's shown in the game that Gooigi has no personality, he's essentially a husk piloted by Luigi. One of the cutscenes shows Gooigi getting screamed at by a ghost and not even flinching or blinking, he's kinda just mindless.
At first, I thought this was another dime-a-dozen "putting way more thought into it than the creators", only for you to show me this is all canon.
That's pretty dark :T
Although imagine if the Gooigi mechanic becomes popular enough. What if E. Gadd starts doing this with Mario? Or even Peach and Bowser?
What if he already did? Is that what Pink Gold Peach is?
@@Lugbzurg Well that would imply he made Metal Mario, too
@@kaihedgie1747 yeah, metal mario would be a evolution of robot mario
@@arthuralexander1449 Metal Mario as a separate character existed several years before Robo Mario
Marigoo might be brough into eexistence to be Gooigi's Mario... and would be a test to see if he could replicate siblings... just a thought...
DUDE, THANK YOU FOR MAKING THIS BRILLIANT VIDEO!!
Like this is amazing. Just when I feel like I've seen almost everything as far as deep lore goes for Sunshine and Luigi's Mansion (childhood/teenage years games) you go and drop this BOMBSHELL on me and I'm so blown away. Unlike other video game theories I've seen, where a lot of it seems like just headcanon made around something the developer didn't intend, this has proof all over the place and it's amazing. I won't be looking at Sunshine, Luigi's Mansion and such the same way again and I freaking love it. I love looking deep into these classics and this stuff makes me so much more excited for Luigi's Mansion 3. You know, during the WiiU era of Nintendo, when Dark Moon came out, I felt like a lot Nintendo's prior charm and in depth word building was gone, but now I have so much more appreciation for Dark Moon. Thanks for delivering such a great video man! I very interested in picking up your book, as I hope to become a big RUclipsr soon. Thanks for the inspiration and good luck with these videos! :)
Hm... Scientist creates a robotic clone of the main protagonist that acts exactly like them...
E Gadd is Dr Eggman/Robotnik confirmed.
I would love to see you dig deeper into E Gadd's appearance's in the Mario and Luigi games. I love this kind of stuff on this channel.
What about the different coloured luigis in mansion 3 during multiplayer
They're just there for multiplayer as having multiple characters would mess with the story.
They’re Luigis from other universes
I heavely disagree sir
luigi's secret brothers
Food coloring.
Swanky box: why is pink gold peach not available.
Nathaniel bandy: thank God they aren't available
Imagine a Luigi's Mansion Game where it starts off as King Boo as the villain, only to midway through the adventure, Egad is possessed by the Goo from Gooigi, forcing Luigi to side with King Boo. Then in the end, after King Boo and Luigi rescuse the real Egad, the 3 of them fight Goo Variations of themselves, allowing for an epic 3 part final battle.
I think that, based off the past games, that that is pretty unlikely but it would be really cool to see that happen
Better story than Twilight
That'd make for an awesome Luigi centered RPG game, and would definitely buy it.
My idea for battles involving multiple combatants is to have an AI or RNG attack thingy act as the enemy, which has been done before, but then in the background your other characters fight the enemy and you can switch between those fights. Meanwhile, as you control one character the other playable characters use an AI or RNG attack thingy to fight.
@@ARandomSpace yeah. That would be a good idea
Swanky: Says Pink Gold Peach is interesting.
Nathaniel Bandy: u wot m8?
Incoming SMG4 fans who will most likely talk about him.
A.K.A. ME! :D
@@Peter-q1p7t no u
Zenthic Epic ha, 🖕
Well, honestly that is where I first saw the Robo-Mario model. Now I know where it's from.
SMG4 is garbage. It used to be good but it's a dumpster fire at this point
SwankyBox:Like The truly unique pink gold peach, how could she not be available?
Nathaniel Bandy: ANGER
I miss Robo Mario
And I even mentioned him in the Survey as one of my favorite characters in the Mario Kart Tour Closed Beta.
Hopefully he gets to be added in Mario Kart Tour soon!
Your choice of Mario music is always epic and nostalgic and a bit of a reason I stay here
Wow, you probably just predicted the new Luigi Mansion story. If you did, I'm low-key gonna PayPal you a dollar
buy merch instead if he does
@@jj4life015 why would you waste money there
PootOs Gaming Not wasting but supporting.
@@PapaPootOs says the crap channel that wastes money on shitty weeb games
@@jj4life015 well I offered a dollar instead because Twitch isn't paying very well xD
I think we have a conclusion:
E.Gadd isn't on the good or bad side, he helps both of them for money.
I had a dream last night about Gooigi in Mario Kart Tour, interesting
@Daniel GRAINGER true tho
Daniel GRAINGER that’s already disappointing
I’ve been going down a rabbit hole of super Mario lore, from the personalization of Mario 64 2.5 hrs ago to this
They need to release Sunshine on the Switch already. Great video 👍
Not done with the video yet, but something HUGE you missed: When Mario picks up F.L.U.D.D. for the first time, you can see the first few main Mario titles in clips in the bottom corner. These are clearly all the data E. Gadd had already collected up to that point, all stored in F.L.U.D.D. All ready to be used.
*Rose Gold Peach*
The fact that she's a character is highly insulting. But I miss her.
I always kinda liked her. Mario had a light/medium/heavyweight racer in Baby, Regular, and Metal forms, so Peach got Rose Gold Peach to have her own heavyweight version too. It's a bit weird that Luigi didn't get anything, but Mario/Peach are a duo in their own way.
ROSE GOLD QUARTZ?!
*sorry about referencing Steven universe*
Where's our Green Bronze Luigi?! XD
I miss her too! ;-;
Tbh I wish Nintendo fleshed out PGP like how they did with Robo Mario and Gooigi
This video is still very amazing as you did a very amazing job, Swanky Box!
Want see what luigi's mansion 3 adds to this theory.
I'm completely blown away by this theory. So much info I've gathered a while ago all makes sense now!
Robo Mario reminds me of Metal Sonic lol
I will battle you as many times as neccessary.
They're pretty much the same
No shit Sherlock
Except one is super obbessive and will do anything to win....the other is Robo Mario
When Daisy Circuit started playing I felt a stab in my heart aaaaaaaaaaa nostalgia also KOOPA CAPE
Who thinks that Super Mario Sunshine 2 will be a fight with Gooigi since his weakness is water.
That'd be awesome
how appropriate it is that "Here's Some Weapons!" plays during the dissection of robot mario.
and dang, super interesting theory, swanky. i love it!
5:58 HOLY SH*T! That’s crazy! VERY intriguing find!
Wow. I love seeing the outer secrets, myths, and boundaries of games and the real world it really fascinating me and this might be the biggest secret the community can come up with.
Robo mario is love, robo mario is life
Lol I loved the Robo Mario port
c:
Man this makes so much sense. Great video.
But in Mansion 3 trailers it looks like Luigi slumps over when Gooigi is unleashed... So what is going on there?
Seems to be just a gameplay thing. In canon, they act as individuals. I think I heard something about Luigi psychically transmitting instructions to Gooigi or something. They do seem to act like different individuals when they move about and such.
@@seabassthegamer6644 Alright..sure..so that means multiplayer would be the more canonical way to play?
@@BaconNuke ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Luigi actually mind controls Gooigi. E Gadd designed him that way because Gooigi almost killed him. Read E Gadd's journal on Nintendo's Luigi's Mansion 3 page.
@@blankpage9277 I don't think that part was out when we had this discussion.
1) I've only just found this channel but so far I really like it!
2) I was hoping to binge watch your videos but I like watching oldest to newest...would it be a huge pain to reverse the order of one/some of your Lore playlists?
"Who's to say Luigi's data wasn't copied"
Who's to say the Luigi being pixelated is in truth the real Luigi being despixelated, so on and so forth. This is some SOMA shit I'm delving into about the Mario world, but still...
My question: Why would E.Gadd would make copies of the Mario Bros in the first place?
A) If he is Evil: Make copies of Mario Bros to rule the world.
B) If he is Neutral: Sell copies of Mario Bros to anyone for whatever reason - nothing personal, it's just business.
C) If he is Good: Make Mario Bros copies if in the events that the Real Mario Bros died the copies can protect the Mushroom Kingdom (or the world) in their place.
seeing how e.gadd always preforms with just giving his things away *for money* he just does it for buisness
and *money*
Why do Camic, Fawful and E. Gad have the same glasses?
Nathaniel Beyer There's only one Optometrist in the Mushroom Kingdom?
@@bombchu.bowling yes
@@ianfinrir8724 Maybe. I'm wondering if the three of them even have eyes!
😱
@@FaySwine in one of the Luigi's Mansion 3 trailers you can see for a brief moment E. Gadd's eyes they small seed like eyes.
WAIT A SECOND.
If E Gadd pixelates Luigi, converting him into pixels, that would mean the original Luigi, the one we've come to know and love, is DEAD.
-this happens every time you lose a life anyway-
"In the final journal entry of egadd"
*ads appears*
"I took this job to make the world a better place"
I got CoD mobile
Remember Miyamoto said he always intended to make games for adults. Link was supposed to have a gun and fight robots LIKE TERMINATOR.
You are the new “Game Theroy”
G- Rantiks better than game theory
@@Stratilex Slightly better. Still drawn out for watch time, but not as much as Mat does.
Speed runner :
E. Gadd : *Oh shit*
Let's remember that R. O. B was a character on Mario Kart DS
And E. Gadd was supposed to be a playable character in that same game! His kart was supposed to be the Poltergust 4000, they gave it to Luigi instead :0
you are awesome i am a big fan!!! also what site did u use to make merch lol i am a you tuber as well and id love merch too lol also swanky i watch ur videos at my job and when i'm eating breakfast its honestly fascinating and u inspire me as well thank you for posting these great videos lol
"COUGH COUGH" luigis mansion 3 "COUGH COUGH"
Wow. This is 10 times better than game theory
1:06 Nathaniel is going to be mad
I bet that all the dislikes are from the pink gold phech haters
It's been that long ago it feels like yesterday you are putting those videos