Replace top hung UPVC window hinges - the DIY method explained plus how to avoid common mistakes.
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- Опубликовано: 26 июн 2024
- Replacing UPVC window hinges the DIY way using Mila Top Hung Friction Hinge SKU 3577G from Screwfix. How to do this at home explained and how to avoid common mistakes.
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Eight hours ago I started to replace the hinges on two top hung double glazed windows, Trying to do the hinges individually was a nightmare and as you can imagine I got very stuck.
Then I watched your video and 15 minutes later they were both in and functioning perfectly.
Sir you are indeed a living legend thank you so much.
An outstanding presentation. And I can’t get that song out of my head now so thanks for that.
kindest regards Robert.
Thanks for watching Robert and for your kind remarks. Surprised me how such a simple looking job could get so complicated. Meanwhile a couple of correspondents suggested removing the double glazing panel first - which would make the frame about 90% lighter to handle. Wish I knew that before I started! Cheers b33zo
my hinge broke the other day and this video was a life saver
Thanks for watching Peter. Hope you fixed your window in less time than it took me to do the repair. b33zo
Hi b33zo, I just wanted to thank you for posting this video, it helped me a lot today when fitting new hinges onto my kitchen window. As I had never done this job before, I made a right mess of it and destroyed a hinge. I watched your video and popped to screwfix for a new pair. Mine were riveted into place so drilled them out. Fitted the new hinge to the window using self tapping screws, had my mate lift the window into place and screwed it to the frame, took 30 mins. Your video and instructions were easy to follow and so helpful, no longer have a cold drafty kitchen! Thanks again, Jonny.
Thanks for watching Jonny and for your kind remarks. Who could have thought that this job could be so complicated?! A couple of people below suggested removing the double glazing glass first - which makes the window around 90% lighter! Wish I had know that before I started... Best wishes b33zo
Clear, concise and easy to follow. Bravo!
Thanks for watching Sultana.
Good job! 😄 They're trickier than they look.
Thanks for watching James. Yes, I certainly made hard work of it!
b33zo
Hi John, this vid has been up for a while so this comment is for the benefit of DIY'ers using this as reference.
The hinges you removed where in fact 17mm stack height. By leaving the packers out the hinges will be misshapen, under stress and likely fail early. I've seen these fitted incorrectly and the stress pulls/strips the top screw holes in the frame.
When you offered it back up and it seemed tight, that is correct. By opening the window/hinges fully this allows hinge flex to pop or pry the frame side of the hinge into what's known as the euro groove/channel. I hope this makes sense. All the best.
Thanks for watching Neil and leaving some helpful advice. Yes, it looks like I was too hasty in deciding the window wouldn't fit with the 17mm stack - partly to do with the weight while holding it in place to make that decision. If I had taken the glass panel out first (as several people later suggested) I might have successfully located the frame and hinges into the euro groove. Another DIY lesson learned.
Cheers b33zo ps my wife later shaved most of my hair off..
Thanks for this! I just fixed a window that had exactly this problem. I got the Mrs to help though, much easier to get the window in and out with two of us.
Thanks for watching Martin. Someone suggested taking the glass panel out first (fairly easy to do) which was an excellent idea as 90% of the weight is in the glass. Would have made my job much easier. Cheers b33zo
Very good, clearly showed the reason for spacers and why they only operate one way correctly
Thanks for watching thpxs0554.
Great help, hats off to do this solo.
Thanks Helen. Another friend suggested removing the heavy double glazed glass first which would make the job a lot easier. Good tip!
b33zo
Brilliant, Lovely singing in too….👏
Thanks Mark. If only the DIY was as easy as the singing...b33zo
Good video...enjoyed the entire guide.
SS thanks for watching and comment.
thank you for your explanation about top hung - I have mistakenly bought these to replace broken hinge on the top of the window, to my surprised as you say they are set up on the sides of the window :)
Thanks for watching BB. There has to be a better way to describe these hinges. b33zo
Really enjoy the videos and getting to see the entire process, warts and all. Thanks B33zo
Thanks for watching Lewis and for your remarks. Sometimes seeing what not to do can be more useful than when the job runs smoothly. I'm old enough to remember the days of 'here's one I made earlier' on Blue Peter and thinking 'that's cheating'!
ATB b33zo
Great help with your video! I wanted to remove mine from my 15th floor apartment because i wanted to have it cut and fitted with a 6" exhaust fan, was scratching me head on how to remove it.. Thanks John!
Thanks for watching Zac. Hope you get your job done safely. b33zo
Impressive, very well done all by your self and the camera person 😊
Thanks for watching jonathan. It's true, filming doubles the length of time it takes to do your DIY jobs! b33zo
Look , it's Clint Eastwood !!
Jack Palance, of City Slickers
Great video. I’ve been having a nightmare with my new hinges. After watching this video I realised I’d put them on back to front, so they wouldn’t pull closed at the top 😂
Thanks for watching Lee. Yes I had the same problem. Even when you've double checked the direction of travel the hinges can still be on back-to-front. b33zo
That's exactly how it would go, screws fall, drill too far away , window gets stuck, great real vid. Nice 👞 😅
Ha thanks for watching Siobhán. You can see the bits where it all goes wrong in most of my DIY jobs! b33zo
Wish camera person had helped to hold the window for him. Great job! Thanks for enlightening on hinges.
Thanks for watching peacelover. Had the camera on a tripod and like most of my DIY stuff did it all solo. Several viewers made the very sensible suggestion that taking the glass unit out first would make the job a lot easier. Wish I had thought of that!
b33zo
Looks like a 2 man job. Well done...my turn now...I'll hopefully be as successful as you Sir.
Thanks for watching Ustaadji Yassar. You might consider removing the double glazed panel first - which was suggested by one of our friends below. Good luck b33zo
My replacement hinges new bumper are slightly bigger, installed them exactly how you did but bottom window lock doesn't clear by ½mm and it's right up against the frame
What about when the window sash is out, measure the width from hinge to hinge before removing, that way, you know what overall width you're working to. Nice honest demonstration too btw 👍
Thanks for watching Pete. Yes, I get your point. You would think this would be an hour job max but unless you get the same hinge kit it gets well complicated (rather like marrying up non-matching guttering). As someone once said; you always learn more when things go wrong.
ATB b33zo
Thanks
Thanks for watching steffy.
Thank you very helpful. Wish I watched before I tried.
The Mushrooms don't fit into the keeper bottom of my window, do you thing on the frame should Be lower not butted to top of frame.
Hi Son, thanks for watching. I had the same problem and got very unhappy. In the end I moved the part of the hinge that fixes to the window. The frame part of the hinge stays butted to the top of the frame. It's all part of DIY!
Good luck b33zo
Good video. Can you tell me if I can replace friction stays (side hung) with friction stays that include the easi-clean/egress feature? Are channel widths the same on all UPVC windows?
Thanks for watching Mark. I think the answer is yes and yes. The stack height is still 13mm or 17mm and the width 18mm so they should fit okay. Give yourself twice as long to do the job as your best guess on a finishing time. ATB b33zo
Im finding it very difficult to drill the frame for the new holes .
Aluminium frome I think .
Any suggestions
Thanks.
Great video doh 👌
Thanks for watching Tom. UPVC is like drilling cheese. Just make an indent in the material (UPVC or aluminium) with a masonry nail or something else sharp and use a new drill bit. Shouldn't be a problem. b33zo
Hello can you please advice me if it’s possible to install a egress easy clean bracket on a top hung window.
Thanks for watching Raah. I'm sorry but I have no experience of egress easy clean bracket. b33zo
I have a broken hinge similar to your demonstration. However, the hinges are not screwed to the UPVC frames. I'd describe them as riveted with flat rivets with a small hole in the middle. Have you come across these fixing? The windows are old of course. Do the rivets need to be drilled out and if so, do they need to be re-riveted back again, that's assuming the holes line up with the new hinges? Any information is appreciated. Nice video btw.
Thanks for watching denbyish. The concertina mechanism is held together with rivet type fixings but the whole hinge is screwed to the white plastic. So no drilling or re-riveting required. When you take the screws out on the frame side of the window the window and hinges come out complete.
Someone made a useful suggestion that if you remove the beads and take out the double glazed glass the 'window' become much lighter and easier to handle. Wish I had done that!
Give yourself plenty of time - on a warm, dry day.
b33zo
Hello again... For the benefit of other readers, my hinge (concertina mechanism) is riveted together, but the hinge is additionally riveted to the PVC frame, with aluminium rivets. I looked online and the general method of removal is to drill out the rivets and to use fresh rivets where the frame holes line up (with the new hinge) and screws where they don't. I leave a link which may be of use to other viewers who have this type of hinge fitting. Thank you for your reply.
www.handlesandhinges.co.uk/window-hinge-rivet-removal/#:~:text=Window%20Hinge%20Rivet%20Removal,-To%20remove%20rivets&text=Use%20a%204mm%20or%205mm,just%20taking%20the%20top%20off.&text=Refit%20new%20hinges%20to%20window%20using%20screws%20or%20rivets.
@@dembydish Thanks for your reply. Yes, this is another thing altogether. I would drill out the rivets to remove the window. If the new hinge holes don't line up it might be to your advantage as fitting screws is likely be easier than re-riveting. There's nothing to stop you drilling out fresh fixing holes in the concertina mechanism either. Lets us know how you get on.
Good luck b33zo
We used "security screws" which look like rivets because of the head. They will unscrew with the right fitting (although, we found out that a cross head rill bit can unscrew them if done slowly)
2 mins remove the four beads. remove the glass, makes a top hung sash far easier ro replace the hinges.
AB excellent suggestion and the window becomes 90 percent lighter while you work. Definitely will try that on another dud window here at home. Cheers b33zo
Nice singing 🎶, do you sing in any of your other videos?
Thanks for watching James. If you're really interested there's one here:
ruclips.net/video/0QmHuKfFy-8/видео.html
b33zo
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Thanks for watching.
What’s the weight of a window like that? I need to replace the hinges on my top hung window but the problem is it’s about 6x bigger than the window you done.
About 100cm height x80cm width. I’m worried about taking the Hinges off and the weight is too heavy!!
Thanks for watching jj. Yes this is going to be well heavy. Unless you've got a couple of helpers definitely remove the glass first if you need to replace the hinges. Good luck. b33zo
buy 3.9 x 25mm Self taping screws, saves having to pre drill
Good suggestion AB. Thanks for watching. b33zo
Just to confirm, when you say "left" on the hinge, that is left from the perspective of looking in the window from the outside? Also, since the hinge coming off was 17mm, how come making it the same size with the spacers was too big, but it fiitted on being 13mm?
Thanks for watching. 'Left' in this case is from inside the roome. The hinges are clearly marked with a 'L' and an arrow showing direction of opening. The fittings include spacers just incase you need them. b33zo
If only you removed the small glass pane 1st it’s internally glazed anyway would make life SO Much easier try it.
Thanks for watching Graham. Yes a good suggestion which I will definitely apply next time. b33zo
What about the missing screws on the opening sash against window didn’t show that because when installed it’s impossible should have fixed it when it was out
Thanks for watching Mike. I think that is covered at about 6:10 in the video. b33zo
Next time, make a little jig that holds the sash in place for you, you drop a sash, your in trouble, great effort, I do this daily, it’s effortless with a jig 👍🏻, took me years to make it easy on myself, without a jig, it’s bloody hard work loool 👍🏻
Thanks for watching CCG. Yes dropping the sash would be a catastrophe. I like the idea of a jig to take the weight. Cant quite figure out how it would look. Could you reveal that to us or is the patent still not secured?! cheers b33zo
@@b33zo Hi B33zo, I’m changing a top hung over fixed on Tuesday, I’ll show you the jig I’ve made, and make a quick video, really does save the arms…..and casement loool cheers
@@coventrycityglass2273 Thanks CCG that would be a great help for us DIYers! cheers b33zo
Hello CCG, It would be a great help to see your jig. I sent you an email, cheers Marcus
How do you put the final screw in the middle of the window?
Thanks for watching. Working from the outside.
@@b33zonah. Not enough clearance between the frame & the wall to get that last screw in. I'm gonna pop round & check! 😂
@@paula3124 ha welcome anytime paul. Bring tools! b33zo
Appreciate your honesty. However I think you are wrong about top and side hinges though.
Thanks for watching KH.
Noticed your windows are internal glazed, you could of taken the glass out ,it only takes a couple of minutes, and the window will weigh hardly anything nothing, making it much easier 😅
Thanks for watching stephen. Yes, several other friends here made the same very sensible suggestion. b33zo
Not much regard for health & safety with an elderly worker too close to the window balancing on the window board. Wouldn't it be much easier on a step ladder or even a table?
ha thanks for watching Joe. I tried to stand on the fridge but couldn't get it close enough to the window to reach...b33zo
Remove glass first, not heavy then.
Thanks for watching William. Yes, several people recommended removing the glass first. A great tip! b33zo
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That looked dangerous on so many levels, you could have slipped of that window ledge dropped the drill and put the window through or dropped the window but thank goodness you didn't and well done on the finished job. I'm just about to do the same thing only with side hung hinges, would be easier and safer with another person to help.
ha very true Des. The job turned out to be much more complicated than expected. Hope you found the side-hung windows easy to do. b33zo